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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
- I'm no expert on religion, but here are two more small references to religious concepts and figures from different corners of Xeno!
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Intro - 0:00
Xenoblade 1 discussion (minor spoilers) - 0:34
Xenoblade 1 aside (lategame spoilers) - 6:01
Xenogears discussion (full spoilers) - 7:23 - เกม
Takashi trying his hardest not to reference religion:
"Altus! Please sponsor me. I like money" cracked me up
I had a thought while listening to you rant about the origins of Agniratha and Alcamoth's names.
What if the reason Agniratha shares part of its name with a giant is because when the two titans lived in harmony and the peoples shared elements of their cultures with one another, it could be that they wanted to name their major cities after important figures of the others' cultures to symbolize this connection. So the Machina named their city after Agni. Then with Alcamoth being named after Sophia, which thematically is who Meyneth represents, maybe Alcamoth is supposed to be named after her.
tbh this is the biggest stretch in logic and there's very little evidence to back this up, but it's a fun thought nonetheless.
I like the idea. Basically what I was thinking throughout the video too
One day I'm gonna make a luxin highlight video that is literally just "luxin but only when he goes off on a tangent"
Considering how the Fog Beast Gnosis took over Alcamoth, I've speculated that perhaps that is where the Zohar rematerialized itself and considering how Pneuma (who's name also means "Holy Spirit) is Sophia and derives her power from the Zohar, like all the Aegises do, perhaps that's the connection right there.
Also, though Agniritha does mean "Chariot of Fire", which alone is a very common Indo-European mythological idea that symbolizes the passage of time and repeating cycles (the sun moving up and down and all). Another translation though could be "Steam Engine" which fits very well with what the Mechonis is, in a way
I finished xenogears yesterday
nice
@@orangepotato2112 yup it's my second favorite game of all time and in my opinion the best xeno game and also my opinion is most don't like disc 2 but I enjoyed disc 2.
I thought it was A combination of Alchemy and Moth
I think that the name of Agniratha probably has nothing to do with King Agni. It could just be a coincidence that there is a character named Agni as well as a city named Agniratha.
Think about it like this: "Agni" simply means "fire". It does refer to a Vedic Hindu deity as well, but he is only called "Agni" because he is the personification of fire. It would be like if Poseidon were just called "Water", or "Ocean", because that is what he represents. Because this concept of "fire" is such a general idea, it wouldn't be too unusual for two different things to each reference this concept, even if they may not be otherwise connected to one another, at least in my eyes.
So, I don't think the term "Agniratha" is supposed to mean "Agni's chariot" (where "Agni" refers to the character in the game), I think it is simply supposed to mean "chariot of fire", and that it just refers to the general concept of fire rather than one specific person who also happens to be named after this concept.
Also, this is a bit of a nitpick, but , while I know that they pronounce the name of Agniratha like "ag-NEAR-uh-thuh" in the English dub of XC1, that's nowhere close to how the word would be pronounced in Sanskrit. I believe that in the Japanese version they pronounce it as "Agunirata" which is closer to the Sanskrit than the English dub, even if it's not entirely correct either.
The actual way it would be pronounced in Sanskrit is more like "uhg-knee-rut-a". In the International Phonetic Alphabet (or IPA), it would be written as /ˈɐɡ.n̪i.ˈɾɐ.t̪ʰɐ/, if you are familiar with that system of spelling. To be clear, I don't blame the English dub for Anglicizing this word so much in the way they pronounce it, because literally every language changes the pronunciations of foreign words in order to make them easier to pronounce, and it would have been too difficult for the English voice cast (and the Japanese cast as well) to pronounce the word exactly like it is in Sanskrit. I just want to let you know that just because a word is pronounced in English a certain way, doesn't mean that it is pronounced exactly like that in the language of origin.
All of these stuff also relate to persona 5 strikers funny enough lol
My second favorite jrpg behind xenoblade 2
4:15 "this reference is a reference" ah yes, the floor here is made out of floor
I feel you luxin, I’m ready for something new from xenoblade as well. Hopefully next direct. Plz. 👏
You got your wish
Another connection, there is one work in the Lovecraft mythos that refers to Azathoth, the primordial being that dreamed the existence of all of reality, is referred to as Achamoth. Though given it's only one story that uses the name, it's probably just also pulling from the same Gnostic inspiration rather than being the source here
Oh my god
As a Christian who loves Xenoblade, I'm always about these religious videos. 😊
Also, I'm curious if you've ever done a video explaining how both Zanza's and Shulk's perspectives about the events of the game could both be right? (i.e. the perspective of a god vs. a mortal). Alvis goes over this concept with the party (sans Shulk, who is "unconscious") right after the events of Mechonis Core. To be honest, I didn't understand this until recently - and yeah, I'm aware of the fact that I'm a bit behind in discovering this and could be mentioning something that everyone else already figured out. 😅Still, I personally find it fascinating to try and wrap my head around what it means to see the world from the perspective of a god. It would certainly explain how it's possible that Shulk could be "dead" when he clearly was not (according to us, of course; but "that is the perspective of a Homs," as Alvis would say), as well as why Zanza felt justified in doing everything he did from beginning to end. It's also fascinating to me considering I have the One True God (i.e. the Christian God) as a comparison to Zanza - the former of which is all-powerful, has no limits, and therefore is not to be questioned (see Isaiah 55:8-9 and Romans 9:14-26, for starters); and the latter of which pretends to be all-powerful and yet still proves to have his own limits. I'd love to see a video on that, if you haven't done one already. :) Perhaps you could even compare Zanza of XC1 to Klaus of XC2 using this concept. That'd be a neat bonus.
@saber 1616 I realize the Xeno series doesn't take inspiration from Christianity alone. Since I'm a Christian, though, I look at everything through the lens of a Christian; hence, the reason why I chose to compare Zanza - a false god - with the Christian God - the One True God. Still, I appreciate the explanation. It was fun to read and to learn more about this series. 😊
lets go
8:45 As an Arabic speaker and a Muslim Hawwa (حواء) is also the name of eve is Islam and since modern Hebrew is based on Arabic it most likely just pronounced Hawwa.(btw there is some letters in the name that isn't in English so Hawwa is closest pronunciation an avg English speaker can get without practice)
Edit#1: 9:23 frick, good research good research.
Edit#2: just finished the video, to be honest I really didn't expect the ending since when talking about religion most christian/christian raised(especially Americans) youtubers just use chrisitan and Judiasm and ignore Islam although it is one of the major Abrahamic Religions and just as big(almost there) as Chrisitanity, so it was a bit suprising/refreshing hear you talk about islam without misinforming people about and you actually say "I don't know" or "I'm not certain" when you don't know, since when coming to religion a lot of people just make stuff up or just say stuff with much confidiance that make you think that they studied those stuff for decades and didn't google it on the fly.
they got the L from melias love life in the first game AYOOOO
in all seriousness rip melia
It’s been 3 years since the man said he would change his discord and I’ve been waiting for one of them
agniartha might also be a play on agartha, so its a 3 in one which is always clever, oh while im here regarding toa previous video on why Malos is purple... just a guess but aside from the standard villain colour in the catholic liturgy purple means wealth and power as the dye is expensive produced from the secretions of sea snail and manufactured in Tyre so expensive it also means royalty but also penance the colour of widows and self redemption. so Malos is royal but also regretting.
You should start mixing Xeno content with SMT content. This would become my favourite YT channel overnight.
I mean, even with only occasional SMT mentions, he's still one of my favorite channels
tl;dr Achamoth took the L.
As a man of faith and a believer in Islam, it's always exciting when Islam is used as a reference or talked about without negative information
Sophia is the Greek and Achamoth is the Hebrew
Agniratha = Agartha ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha )