If you’re trying to fix the whole park before opening, you’ll go broke. I would fix up the cheapest buildings and sites first to start generating some revenue. Then open additional sites and buildings as they get updated. Demolish the buildings that would cost more to fix than replace. If it’s cheaper to fix something, fix it.
I definitely agree with the idea of opening up a little bit at a time. Apart from bringing in revenue asap (the number one goal), it will also allow them to learn the ropes bit by bit. Thirdly, it will give visitors something different to experience each time they come back besides, I think a lot of people will like the smaller, more personal set up so it's a win/win on all fronts. Good lucks RV Odd Couple.
I have a serious suggestion for you. The adventure you are embarking on would make an excellent television show. Why not investigate the possibility of a network such as HGTV following your project and covering many of the costs. I live in Canada and for three seasons HGTV Canada have aired a series called “Island of Bryan” which is their highest rated show. It follows a Toronto family who purchased a derelict resort in the Bahamas and follows all the trials and tribulations they have gone through getting it up and running. Both of you have a presence and large following already so it very well could work. Why not look into it? God richly bless you both.
Great 💡💡💡😊. love reality shows. Contact History, TLC, Discovery , National Geographic, PBS. If you had a good camp chef you could do Camp Cooking. Prayers 🙏🙏 for blessings in this adventure.
Gary - you may be onto something! And the TV station can help Mercedes & John with some money to help fund the rehab. They would be great as a TV show. The JoAnna & Chip Gaines of RV park fixer uppers! Folks - LET’S ALL WRITE LETTERS TO HGTV! What do you all think??🤔
I can't speak intelligently if this is a sound business venture or not.BUT,.We only regret the choices we didn't make. Your channel inspired us to finally buy an RV so we would love to visit the area when the opportunity arises.
I'm just west of you, North of Huntsville. I owned a fixed wireless Internet company covering 500 sq miles up in Ohio a few years back. I was also the head network engineer for a nationwide Internet company back in the 90s. I still have a bunch of my equipment and would be happy to help you light the park with GOOD wifi service. Judging from the video, you're going to need an expert in wireless to design your wifi network.
Ok idea for you , as a former Cub Scout and Boy Scout , you need to invite the Boy Scouts to come as a project to help you guys rebuild and in return , give them a weekend or week of use of the campground ⛺️. Praying for you guys
and what about the potential liability from any accidents and/or injuries? since you are recommending this, do you have a template of a "hold harmless & indemnify" agreement - that has stood up to a challenge in the courts? and who will provide the sufficient number of supervisors of these boy scouts, who are actually minors doing adult manual labor?
@@kellymccall3491 It would be an accounting nightmare using free labor for a commercial operation. There are laws of declaring the profit to any enterprise not a registerd tax free charity. That free labor would be at Federal Minimum Wage. And there are orther regulationd regarding child labor, regarding hours and conditions. Much well intended advice, but advice that could cause enormous problems.
@@riskyron1416 well, my only basis is really from a cousin earning his Eagle Scout in Georgia. I do not know if there is an work attached to the open areas near the streams and tributaries. State and Federal laws can inhibit the freedoms as full time RVers continue to find. It could still be possible but yes the paperwork could be overwhelming and I imagine that too would not be allowed by a Scoutmaster but outsourced at a payroll cost. Hoping Camp Gratitude can be the happy place dreamed in current America, with this we pray.
One day at a time, don’t look at it all at once or it will be too overwhelming. It does look like a great place! Good luck and hopefully see you when we pass through there in the spring.
Looks like it could be a beautiful office/center. The Fellowship hall is nice, but if you replace it you could make it larger. Could be a money maker right off. The Scouts Bunkhouse set right could work for church retreats. Prioritize places that can make money immediately. Open up sites for boondocking, then add electric and water. Very beautiful spot. Keep it simple, letting the walk in the woods be the main attraction. The office shop could carry bug spray, camp logo tshirts and hats, post cards….
I’m retired. I’m 70 plus. You guys have touched my heart. I hope I can use some of my elbow grease to help out. I’m also a boon-docker and an Eagle Scout. I’m guessing there are retired electrical/building contractors out there that are willing to donate time and effort to help out. I don’t know the RV Odd Squad but I bet some would be willing to help you get this off the ground for a chance to spend some quality time there which includes donating time and talent.
LOL… the sign at the pool house.. “Leash Pets and Wild Kids”! Classic! As you get in to renovation and demolition, That sign is a keeper in my opinion.
July 2021 You might consider becoming a member of the elder hostel system in order to at least "break even." This might help you bring elder hostel travelers from Europe who are experienced travelers. They are probably less 'fussy' guests than those who want to stay at a motel or hotel. G'Day
Stop worrying about the “Yankee” thing. Many southerners, myself included,will have some fun messing with you about it but that’s all it is. Roll with it. Like anywhere else good people will judge you by the content of your character. Be at peace and Godspeed.
@@RVOddCouple Love you guys. Just for the record I have a terrible southern accent and when I go up north and open my mouth the first Question is “where are your from?” Have fun with it!
OK. These are my thoughts. There are Alot of us who are subscribers who are Retired. That's a Magic word guys !! Why not make a way for Subscribers who are Able bodied and willing to, all come down during the same weeks/ month....to give a Good Start, on all that needs to be done ? Many are already Equipped to Boondock and wont Need electric or water/sewer. Many already have their own tools. Heck !! Think about how many retired Tradesmen, have extra wire and building supplies just laying around, willing to donate to your cause ? You two are an Amazing Couple with a vision that I'm sure many of us would like to Be a Part of, however small our part may be. . .Never stop keeping hope Alive !!! After what we have been through, as a country, since 2020, we ALL need something new to Focus on !!! This campground project could be So Healing to so Many people !!! Ask For Help, and They Will Come .... :) Big Hugs !!!! ...Keeping Hope Alive :)
Great idea. You don’t have to feed boondockers and it might give a small boost to the local economy with boondockers going to town to buy groceries and supplies. Donated help for a place to hang for a couple weeks. Great idea.
Work on the electric and water, get that done, and open up. The place looks a lot better than most Campgrounds. You'll make the money quickly that you'll need to do the other upgrades. The house can also be a store and gift shop/arcade. Good Luck, the place is beautiful!
I'd start renting out some of the spaces and open up with the thought that it's under construction yet open for business. Currently there's so many people that need places to stay and you've the land that's beautiful people can enjoy, that most might ignore the part that is under construction. You could advertise on apps it's a new park partially open. That would save some of the costs because you'd be making money while you're spending it. Experience has a way of teaching you that if you wait till everything is perfect you'll have spent so much that you'll never be able to balance your losses.
Yup - I would upgrade the essential utilities to the RV lots and open for business. All the other buildings and amenities could be done gradually - meanwhile they are just the "ghost town" :) I'd love to be your resident manager - this chokes me up remembering girl scout camp in the 60's.
You probably have a base contacts/supporters ( vetted out) to offer boon docking and offer some kind of "sweat" equity or credit for future use! I have followed bits of your journey, best wishes : )
Boon-docking park in progress is the key. Play on that theme to get started I think that would appeal to many, oh and offer reductions to people who are willing to help with building, electric, plumbing etc. The pool should be a salt pool. So much easier to maintain, I know from experience (8 years)
@@digger105337 you don’t understand, one can’t tell it’s a saline pool. It’s not the same percentage of salt as the sea which is 35k parts per million. A salt water pool is only 3k parts per million. That’s about 10 times less than that of seawater. I just add salt made for pools and the chlorinator does the work making chlorine. That means that the levels are gentler on eyes and skin. No more green hair and red eyes. I can swim underwater with no googles. It’s the same salt as tears.
People need a place to park. Fix it up for camper functioning only, no hookups and fix it up as you can. Charge for the spots and use the money towards the repairs. People will be grateful to support fellow RVers. It’s so hard to find a place to spend the night at this time. Let the big rigs stop, park and walk to the office then go park. Good luck!
I grew up on a tree farm I know how to trim trees so that they don't die. I'm in Arizona now. If you have a place for me to park 40' class a. I'll come out and help also I can cut grass and do other stuff I'm retired. Used to be a forest firefighter. Good luck in your Endeavor. You're RV friend 😎👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Sometimes 'trading' labor is MUCH more labor, time and expensive than doing it yourself. Yet if you find those talented tradesmen and women that are capable of doing work independently instead of being 'babysat' that can be insured, bonded and pass code than go for it!
@@richardharvey3104 I didn't intend to knock anyone. I thought maybe he meant 6/3 and just said 6/2 by mistake. Also, the romex in PVC may be just temporary. But I'd hate to see them spend that much money on wire and find out it's wrong.
My cousins owned a small park in central Wisconsin for about 5 years. They knew the previous owners and bought it when the retired. They enjoyed it the first season. But starting the second season, they started to hate it. They said “the novelty wore off”. My cousin joined the army reserve and that became a recruiter and that was the out they were looking for. They told me they worked 24/7 all season. No breaks and didn’t make enough money to pay their bills. I hope you have better luck! Can’t wait to see how you make this place your own!
Looks like a very promising future. That’s the kid of campground I always look for as far as scenic and quite. I’d suggest you can get a half dozen sites functioning and advertise for skilled work campers. Trade free parking for labor. Looking forward to future updates.
Guys, I would recommend NOT turning the main house into multi-unit rental. You'll end up running it as a B&B and pulling you away from the main purpose....an awesome campground! Just my 2 cents....best if luck and God Bless!😇
Office space is easy: pull in a modular/mobile office space. Don’t sacrifice a single square foot of the available “charm” for back office functions. Good luck and God Bless!
The wife cried at the end of your video watching Sage enjoying the grounds like she was. Y’all are going to do great just stop the day drinking brunch lol!!
Friends of mine built something similar. They started selling beer so the biker clients wouldn't be riding buzzed to go buy more beer. Good logic goes both ways on that issue.
I see why you love it. It has the reminescent feel of campgrounds of yesteryears. My opinion is start with the bare necessities. What can be saved and what is cost efficient. Maybe, do a tent section, and boondocking. If you can rent out some cabin's that are in good shape, or easy fixes. I know this may be out of left field, but if all goes South, no pun intended. You can use it as a Wedding Venue.
Also, You can rent some of them as is, ie. rooms for rent. RENT to guys or ladies who want to work on the property. Rent for a tiny lower fee and find non lazy individuals who are excited to help you out. There are ppl like that.
@@RVOddCouple John and Mercedes , I hope that you will see were I have commented and what I replied on a few , You got this , your all 3 in my prayers 🙏🕊️💌
I would get as many sights open as possible then charge electric only for RV Odd Squad followers in exchange for labor. Get enough couples involved and a lot can get done in no time. Mowing, painting, some construction jobs. If I was retired I would happy to pitch in a hand.
Ummmmmm well jeez trust me as a lifelong successful business man I can say you can make it work BUT you have to live it 24/7 and i really mean 24/7 Are you really ready for that? Years of personal sacrifice and money spent...just saying.....life is damn short
Someone suggested a TV series. Brilliant idea and it would finance the restoration. Get busy contacting the channels that do shows about real people. I think this idea is worth pursuing.
The time to ask those questions was before you make the buy decision. Impulse buys really rarely go as imagined. I have watched you for some time and have seen you go down several paths. Pick one and dedicate yourself to it. Good luck. You have a lot of work ahead of you. You may need a well funded partner.
We just love Alabama! We drive 59 down to several places that we camp, that looks like an awesome place! How exciting despite the work ahead! Sounds like people would love to come to you and help, many with trade skills...so many possibilities. Thank you for sharing your adventures with us!
What a gorgeous place. Main house..office, store, registration, and small sitting area. Would love to be able to help! Ask for help from boondockers, good bartering.
There's probably a lot of RVrs here that are electricians, plumbers, builders etc. Maybe you can Trade camping time for help/labor. I'm sure people here would be willing. And def don't try to rebuild the whole place first. Baby steps! And like someone else said you could have boondocking only for a while .
Exactly what I was thinking. Don't know the rules down south, but it's a commercial property, so they probably have to be licensed in that state. I agree, I think that's a great way to go.
I just told hubby, y’all should do like Habitat for Humanity. Lots of people on here would come and help and bring in their own tools. Just supply wood, nails, etc and knowledgeable people could help y’all.
Great to hear Sage talking and she sounds very happy. You both have a lot of people that share your dreams. Break it way down into what’s needed, no matter how small. Just everyday do something. Don’t over think it. Your hearts will show in your work.
I see a lot of money being spent. Remember your marriage and family is the most important part of your life.fear the worst and praying for the best. Remember what’s important… your relationship!!!! Please.
Hello J & M. Just wow. I have to admit I'm shocked at your purchase. Mainly due to the fact that it appeared you loved running around the country so much in the 5th wheel. I once had a conversation with a campground owner and he stated " campground owners don't camp". That just about killed my interest in buying a campground. It's a huge commitment for you not only financially, of course, but it's going to be your new life. Year round it's going to be a concern so you may not want to travel very far away for an extended period of time at least for the first 2 or 3 years. I like the " bones" of the park. It's stunning. It's definitely a place I would love to visit. The " fix up " appears overwhelming. If you are looking at this as a short term investment, say 5 years, it could work our very well for you assuming your are comfortable with the time commitment. Unfortunately, I have to admit , I'm concerned that this purchase is too much to take on and could strain your family relationships. I will definitely be praying for you J & M for it all to work out for the best and you will have no regrets. All the BEST ! Gary L.
Thank you for you support and sharing honesty with us Gary. We’ve come to depend on the RV Odd Squad telling us the truth. You raise some great considerations. We Pray everyday for guidance and direction and trust our heart. Our heart is in this and we know we’ve become emotionally attached to the property. Thine will not ours be done 🙏 God Bless and hope to meet you soon❤️
I’ve been down a similar path and you probably already know this but focus on whatever creates cash flow. If that’s primitive and dry camping, at least it’s some cash flow. I’d focus my attention on anything that helps to meet that goal as quickly as possible.
Well I pay my contractor $125 an hour in AL for dozier and excavator work. He's just one guy who brings his equipment over and has been clearing land and building my rv park roads. 700 ft of 4 inch water line and about 90 ft of 24" sewer pipe was $2,000. My topographical survey is being done now on phase 1(approx 7 to 8 acres) estimate was 3k to 5k. I needed the topographical survey so my engineer could figure the land drop to lay out sewer lines.
Coming from a business and food and beverage program y’all should really do a realistic ROI on this. Industrial Kitchens alone can cost 10s of thousands in upkeep/repair a year. State regs on hood systems can be costly. Recycling oil/safety requirements/fire suppression etc etc. Not throwing water on ya but I would estimate a third more than things you can think of when building a financial plan.
Y'all didn't mention it, but it would be a good site for outdoor weddings and receptions. Wedding pictures in areas like that are very popular here, you can easily charge for photography sessions.
Just so you're aware, having a diving board will cost you a lot more for insurance. That's why so many RV parks have removed them. My wife's cousin own a park with a large pool. It was in the Guinness world record as the largest asphalt pool in the world. Not sure if it still is the largest.
I've lived in the south for 25 years and they still ask me where I'm from :D and "What church do you belong to?" is a very common greeting. Good luck, y'all! It will be a great adventure.
This “adventure” could be a TV show. Also, being a Yankee is a complement. It implies resourcefulness, getting by with what you have on hand. Such as the phrase “yankee engineering “.
Ok first, John - learn to speak Southern w/ a little bit of a twang, learn some southernisms like "that dog ain't gonna hunt!" (Pronounced thayat dowg ain gon' huhnt." May need to practice a few times), then if/when asked tell them you're from Oklahoma, Kansas, or Missouri, or your southern Midwestern state of choice. Then you'll be "ok" in their book. 😂🤣 Seriously though, I would start with the office/clubhouse & the best spots you have, & start letting people stay there, & go from there - & pray! I would even highly suggest getting the whole place blessed by a priest or pastor. It may sound crazy but I promise it's the best thing you can do. I got my house blessed & all my vehicles blessed. (There's a story behind that...) It definitely won't hurt!
@@lauraingeorgia5052 I disagree with some of this advice, like trying to develop a southern accent. To us southerners, it just doesn't sound natural coming from someone from outside the south. It'll happen naturally over time, especially if you follow the good advice about using southern phrases like "that dog ain't gonna hunt," or... "it's coming up a cloud" when a storm is brewing.
@@lauraingeorgia5052 I don't agree with what you said about how us southerners talk , I'm from Mo , as a child and in my 20's I lived in IL for a while and I lived in Michigan for a while , and I can tell you that northerners , they say "almost ran me over" and us southerners say "almost ran over me". And we say soda , not "pop" , our Pop is our Dad or Grandpa . We say creek , not "crick" because it's spelled with the 2 ee's and if you have a speller on your phone that will show you that if you go to write "crick" it will think that you are going to spell cricket , crick has a blue line under to let you know that it's not spelled right ,LOL !! What the northerners call "fireflies , us southerners call "lighting bugs" and what northern people call "craw fish" us southerners call "crawdads" , and northern people call them that because it's a fancy way to call something to make Alot of money in their fancy restaurants , just like the northern people say "escargot". , their fancy way to make "snails' sound delicious for a upscale restaurant to charge for the slimy things us southerners would not eat , we know what a snail is !! LOL. So don't worry about the slang , we are quick to make it friends , and not quick to judge , and we don't walk around with our nose's high in the air , we know about floods and drowning because all rivers have to come down , oh , and we wear boots with shorts and dress's , yes John , even the men wear boots with shorts , because we love the country and back roads and we don't want to have t-shoes on if a snake starts striking at ya !! And we know what a "blue racer snake" is , and how still you have to stay because they will chase anyone who runs !! And we go barefoot in the grass , and at the rivers , (learnto walk on rocks , so you can run on rocks if you ever have to ) !!! Just be yourselves , Us that has been watching your videos , and the ones from the south that you both have met , we all love you just the way you are , honest , God fearing , and straight to the point !! Oh , and if you get lost in the neck of the woods , down creek bed roads , you might want to know , which way a chicken pisses , (if you are asking for direct ) LOL , oh and some of us will use the words like "fellar" and ""fellow" , when talking about a man , and a "young-one" for a child . To northern people we talk funny , but if the northern people would listen really close we don't talk the way they think we are , or like Laura said , which she should know how us southerners are , We Just Talk REALLY FAST , so you just gotta keep up !! I'm from Mo , born and raised and I am proud . God bless you John, Mercedes and Sage 🙏🕊️💌
I’m guessing there are A TON of people who would be willing to put their skills to use to help you get things cleaned and put-together. Just sayin’. Have tools, will travel. :-)
Bring the boy scouts - and the girl scouts - out! Some Eagle scouts, have a 10 county major scout event. Or School kids needing to earn a community project for their senior year.
WOW. Beautiful place! A LOT of work, a LOT of money, but oh how awesome it will be when you get it up to ‘snuff’! Can’t imagine a more desirable place to spend vacation, or a nice restful spot on the way in your other travels! Best Wishes and Lots of Prayers heading your way. 😘
You were talking about those pretty fields. They’re not gonna stay that way. First thing you better purchase is a tractor and a large finish mower to start keeping them mowed.
The RV crowd are some of the kindest, most honest, caring, and helpful souls out there, blessed by the fact that you are seeking God's will in this great adventure. Blessings from Savannah, Ga!
What about a few lots for tiny homes and the old house as a museum with a camp host to mange/update. Also horse camping… just do a few things at a time It is a lifetime venture!
If they can legally sell off or rent some lots for tiny homes only they could make some money and charge a small yearly fee for maintenance of the landscaping, driveway and light posts.
Just keep in mind with the little one running around that there are snakes and critters that are dangerous in that neck of the woods we live in Tennessee we were surprised at what all we have to watch for copperheads timber Rattlers rattlesnakes the list goes on
Wow as beautiful as the campground is, there appears to be a huge amount of money and work required to make it truly useable and able to accommodate others. Building has completely stalled in many areas due to supply chain and cost issues currently. Prayers for your success with this endeavor. 🙏🏼♥️🚐
Wow, well I say make everything where people might go really safe. Then I would take a fourth of the place that is not needing a major renovation fix it first. (So you have a rental income. ). As you fix existing things it is all tax deduction. Fix up existing things
Looks like a money pit, especially considering the current economic conditions. Material and labor costs are a big concern. Not trying to discourage you, but it will be tough. Hope that you can get it figured out and it becomes the diamond in the rough.. GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Remodel guys, it would be alot cheaper than rebuild. Especially right now with the cost of materials. Starting with the roof of the buildings to protect the inside. Alabama gets alot of rain. Also improve and repair existing roads and structures. It will be a working progress but I know you guys can do it 💪
Great potential. Slow and steady, don’t over whelm yourselves. I think with pool I would get one of those already made fiberglass pools. A smaller one, fill in where needed and set pool in. Thinking it would help to have smaller for insurance purposes. Have you thought of work campers to help do the work needed? Have fun and enjoy
“Seeking Freedom, independence and adventure”, you certainly have achieved adventure with this campground! Get a master plan together, prioritize the projects. Start with income earning projects. Try to get a number of sites operational, but away from major construction. You have been to a lot of parks and know what you like and what works, so brainstorm a list of that knowledge. You two have the knowledge and ability to create a beautiful place that will draw people in and become a place families will love! I can’t wait to watch this journey as it unfolds.
Welcome to Alabama! You guys are going to love it here! I have a mountain of faith in you and high hopes for Thunder Canyon. Really excited at the prospect of bringing my wife for a visit in the near future.
You need to get yourselves a portable sawmill, and make your own lumber. Will add to the rustic nature of the place. If any structures are sound, it is almost always cheaper to repair and restore than build new.
There is plenty of land and open spaces , keep as much trees as you can , great for shade . Nature is beautiful , God's blessings , the best things in life are free , and all that God made is beautiful and free , isn't God amazing with all He made and created , and His art work of the sunrise and sunset and the moon and clouds . God has blessed you , He has given you everything that you need to have your dream and a heaven on earth is what I thought of with the videos that we have seen that you shared . My husband and I love all your videos , and the couple of videos that you have sent on this beautiful Alabama land , God guided y'all there for a reason , He is going to walk every centimeter of this blessing with you , John and Mercedes , you both got this because God has you both and your family !! 🙏🕊️💌
I live in Alabama and so have my ancestors since 1820 and I married a yankee. Small towns here are very tight. When someone asks you where you're from, just admit you're a yankee :) but you moved down here because you love the south and the southern lifestyle/culture. We eat that up. Enjoy the sweet tea, fried green tomatoes, bananna pudding and humidity.
We have a very nice local campground that had a sad start. The husband of the couple who started it from scratch died soon after they opened. The wife trades RV spots for work. It seems to work at well for her.
I would come to you park. I thought...would you consider Harvest Hosting until you are fully up and running. You might have some people who would also help with construction if you let them stay, but they could help with a trade like electrical or carpentry for a week while their family explores your nature trails, etc.
The house up on blocks.... that's the way they built great grandma's house that still standing. Before I would tear it down I would see about a contractor redoing and securing the foundation. That's what we did. The house was great. Just wanted to have a more secure foundation. It worth checking into.
If it's been closed for 9 years you're going to have major mold issues throughout the entire park, it needs to be torn down. Why didn't you do a Google search and look under Reviews, that would have told you it was 9 years old.
OH YEA you have a money pit nightmare! I think you have the motivation to make it work and there is a lot of satisfaction to making a business like this work. When I am in the area I will defiantly stay at your park.
I went to a campground before and they had a game room. It was in the main office area. It had about 10 old but not old arcade games. a bench so kids can sit. and poll tables and also air hockey. The kids loved it!
This hurts me to say but years ago I did the same thing. The costs to bring the park to where it needed to be was just over double what the purchase price was.
You two are so awesome and God is with you in all this. If money is needed you should pre-book sites for the first few weeks and have a Grand Opening Week with the ones that paid up Front...
You can't keep the diving board because of insurance purposes. Public pool insurance is going to cost you a fortune, not to mention re-doing that massive pool.
I am totally with the vacuum tube junkie give me a space and I’d love to volunteer and even more than that I am an investor. I am a carpenter by trade and a builder and a small developer and I know that I could be a benefit to your organization if you want contact me in all the usual ways. Thomyt
If you’re trying to fix the whole park before opening, you’ll go broke. I would fix up the cheapest buildings and sites first to start generating some revenue. Then open additional sites and buildings as they get updated. Demolish the buildings that would cost more to fix than replace. If it’s cheaper to fix something, fix it.
Ditto, do a soft opening with 10 sites and an opened office. (or your RV) Eat the elephant one bite at a time!
Dave Ramsey 🙏
Unfortunately it will never happen!
Good plan 😀
I definitely agree with the idea of opening up a little bit at a time. Apart from bringing in revenue asap (the number one goal), it will also allow them to learn the ropes bit by bit. Thirdly, it will give visitors something different to experience each time they come back besides, I think a lot of people will like the smaller, more personal set up so it's a win/win on all fronts. Good lucks RV Odd Couple.
I have a serious suggestion for you. The adventure you are embarking on would make an excellent television show. Why not investigate the possibility of a network such as HGTV following your project and covering many of the costs. I live in Canada and for three seasons HGTV Canada have aired a series called “Island of Bryan” which is their highest rated show. It follows a Toronto family who purchased a derelict resort in the Bahamas and follows all the trials and tribulations they have gone through getting it up and running. Both of you have a presence and large following already so it very well could work. Why not look into it? God richly bless you both.
Great 💡💡💡😊. love reality shows. Contact History, TLC, Discovery , National Geographic, PBS. If you had a good camp chef you could do Camp Cooking. Prayers 🙏🙏 for blessings in this adventure.
Brilliant Idea!
Great idea, Gary! It’s viable already.
That's a great idea!
Gary - you may be onto something! And the TV station can help Mercedes & John with some money to help fund the rehab. They would be great as a TV show. The JoAnna & Chip Gaines of RV park fixer uppers! Folks - LET’S ALL WRITE LETTERS TO HGTV! What do you all think??🤔
I can't speak intelligently if this is a sound business venture or not.BUT,.We only regret the choices we didn't make. Your channel inspired us to finally buy an RV so we would love to visit the area when the opportunity arises.
Thank you Bill 😀
I'm just west of you, North of Huntsville. I owned a fixed wireless Internet company covering 500 sq miles up in Ohio a few years back. I was also the head network engineer for a nationwide Internet company back in the 90s. I still have a bunch of my equipment and would be happy to help you light the park with GOOD wifi service. Judging from the video, you're going to need an expert in wireless to design your wifi network.
Ok idea for you , as a former Cub Scout and Boy Scout , you need to invite the Boy Scouts to come as a project to help you guys rebuild and in return , give them a weekend or week of use of the campground ⛺️. Praying for you guys
and what about the potential liability from any accidents and/or injuries? since you are recommending this, do you have a template of a "hold harmless & indemnify" agreement - that has stood up to a challenge in the courts? and who will provide the sufficient number of supervisors of these boy scouts, who are actually minors doing adult manual labor?
Scrap that idea. Boy Scouts of America declared Chapter 7 Banruptcies ove all the law suits from pedeophilia,
@@riskyron1416 Eagle Scout Projects, although often fir non profits but if the scout helps make the plans and Carrie's it out
@@kellymccall3491 It would be an accounting nightmare using free labor for a commercial operation. There are laws of declaring the profit to any enterprise not a registerd tax free charity. That free labor would be at Federal Minimum Wage. And there are orther regulationd regarding child labor, regarding hours and conditions. Much well intended advice, but advice that could cause enormous problems.
@@riskyron1416 well, my only basis is really from a cousin earning his Eagle Scout in Georgia. I do not know if there is an work attached to the open areas near the streams and tributaries. State and Federal laws can inhibit the freedoms as full time RVers continue to find. It could still be possible but yes the paperwork could be overwhelming and I imagine that too would not be allowed by a Scoutmaster but outsourced at a payroll cost. Hoping Camp Gratitude can be the happy place dreamed in current America, with this we pray.
One day at a time, don’t look at it all at once or it will be too overwhelming. It does look like a great place! Good luck and hopefully see you when we pass through there in the spring.
Thank you 😊 We’d love to see you
Looks like it could be a beautiful office/center. The Fellowship hall is nice, but if you replace it you could make it larger. Could be a money maker right off. The Scouts Bunkhouse set right could work for church retreats. Prioritize places that can make money immediately. Open up sites for boondocking, then add electric and water. Very beautiful spot. Keep it simple, letting the walk in the woods be the main attraction. The office shop could carry bug spray, camp logo tshirts and hats, post cards….
Thank you Ann ❤️
Sensible and practical, useful advice! 👍🙂✝️
I’m retired. I’m 70 plus. You guys have touched my heart. I hope I can use some of my elbow grease to help out. I’m also a boon-docker and an Eagle Scout. I’m guessing there are retired electrical/building contractors out there that are willing to donate time and effort to help out. I don’t know the RV Odd Squad but I bet some would be willing to help you get this off the ground for a chance to spend some quality time there which includes donating time and talent.
LOL… the sign at the pool house.. “Leash Pets and Wild Kids”! Classic! As you get in to renovation and demolition, That sign is a keeper in my opinion.
I have to agree with Lisa.
John and Mercedes, please keep that sign.
July 2021 You might consider becoming a member of the elder hostel system in order to at least "break even." This might help you bring elder hostel travelers from Europe who are experienced travelers. They are probably less 'fussy' guests than those who want to stay at a motel or hotel. G'Day
Rebuild everything, keep as much as you can. Get some volunteer help, electricians, plumbers, carpenters etc..
Yes! Because every skilled person should work FREE!
@@jenniferwise8515 no - but maybe some would be willing to trade work for their family being able to stay in the resort, swim, free meals, etc.
I think you should start out with boondocking only and make money from that.
Good suggestion, to bring a bit of money in Quickly.
Better get YOUR signage up first. Warnings, Does and Don'ts.
Stop worrying about the “Yankee” thing. Many southerners, myself included,will have some fun messing with you about it but that’s all it is. Roll with it. Like anywhere else good people will judge you by the content of your character. Be at peace and Godspeed.
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@@RVOddCouple Love you guys. Just for the record I have a terrible southern accent and when I go up north and open my mouth the first Question is “where are your from?” Have fun with it!
Exactly! Just don’t use the phrase “how we did it up North!” 😂😂😂 You’ll catch heat for that! Lol!!!
Just tell them you’re down here scoping out the lay of the land for the second Northern Aggression.
@@herbertwhittard2443 I'm glad you said that.. I try hard to find where I might be a good fit and enjoy the journey
I truly pray God blesses this venture and it becomes all you want it to be.
In life, what isn't a money pit?
You scored!
OK. These are my thoughts. There are Alot of us who are subscribers who are Retired. That's a Magic word guys !! Why not make a way for Subscribers who are Able bodied and willing to, all come down during the same weeks/ month....to give a Good Start, on all that needs to be done ? Many are already Equipped to Boondock and wont Need electric or water/sewer. Many already have their own tools. Heck !! Think about how many retired Tradesmen, have extra wire and building supplies just laying around, willing to donate to your cause ? You two are an Amazing Couple with a vision that I'm sure many of us would like to Be a Part of, however small our part may be. . .Never stop keeping hope Alive !!! After what we have been through, as a country, since 2020, we ALL need something new to Focus on !!! This campground project could be So Healing to so Many people !!! Ask For Help, and They Will Come .... :) Big Hugs !!!! ...Keeping Hope Alive :)
Great idea. You don’t have to feed boondockers and it might give a small boost to the local economy with boondockers going to town to buy groceries and supplies. Donated help for a place to hang for a couple weeks. Great idea.
Sounds like the coolest idea ever. We all need a purpose and some of us are old workin hands who would love a project.
Well said!
Yes. Park hosts would love to help out for hookups only.
I know I would trade electrical work (IBEW trained) / maintenance work for a place to stay
Work on the electric and water, get that done, and open up. The place looks a lot better than most Campgrounds. You'll make the money quickly that you'll need to do the other upgrades. The house can also be a store and gift shop/arcade. Good Luck, the place is beautiful!
Totally AGREE with you on that!! Place DOES look AWESOME the way it is, on most of it..
Beeeeutiful!!!
They won’t “Make money” for a long time. Money coming in, yea but not making $$. Let’s pray it all works for our dear friends.
Don't forget the WIFI..
I'd start renting out some of the spaces and open up with the thought that it's under construction yet open for business. Currently there's so many people that need places to stay and you've the land that's beautiful people can enjoy, that most might ignore the part that is under construction. You could advertise on apps it's a new park partially open. That would save some of the costs because you'd be making money while you're spending it. Experience has a way of teaching you that if you wait till everything is perfect you'll have spent so much that you'll never be able to balance your losses.
Great points!
Yup - I would upgrade the essential utilities to the RV lots and open for business. All the other buildings and amenities could be done gradually - meanwhile they are just the "ghost town" :) I'd love to be your resident manager - this chokes me up remembering girl scout camp in the 60's.
You probably have a base contacts/supporters ( vetted out) to offer boon docking and offer some kind of "sweat" equity or credit for future use! I have followed bits of your journey, best wishes : )
Yeah, when I finally get my RV I sure would be interested in a spot there myself,
even if it's paying for just a dry camping spot.
Boon-docking park in progress is the key. Play on that theme to get started I think that would appeal to many, oh and offer reductions to people who are willing to help with building, electric, plumbing etc. The pool should be a salt pool. So much easier to maintain, I know from experience (8 years)
Fresh water pool please. If I want salt, I'll go to the Ocean. Than de salting every time you get out! Yuck.
@@digger105337 you don’t understand, one can’t tell it’s a saline pool. It’s not the same percentage of salt as the sea which is 35k parts per million. A salt water pool is only 3k parts per million. That’s about 10 times less than that of seawater. I just add salt made for pools and the chlorinator does the work making chlorine. That means that the levels are gentler on eyes and skin. No more green hair and red eyes. I can swim underwater with no googles. It’s the same salt as tears.
Isn't there also a small fee you collect through boondocks welcome? It maybe a few bucks, but it's it's few bucks while you're getting started.
People need a place to park. Fix it up for camper functioning only, no hookups and fix it up as you can. Charge for the spots and use the money towards the repairs. People will be grateful to support fellow RVers. It’s so hard to find a place to spend the night at this time. Let the big rigs stop, park and walk to the office then go park. Good luck!
I grew up on a tree farm I know how to trim trees so that they don't die. I'm in Arizona now. If you have a place for me to park 40' class a. I'll come out and help also I can cut grass and do other stuff I'm retired. Used to be a forest firefighter. Good luck in your Endeavor. You're RV friend 😎👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
This is one who is a keeper
@@007nadineL I left you my email address
Beautiful. Might can help on wiring
Can you trade boondocks for labor around the camp?
My thoughts exactly!
Sometimes 'trading' labor is MUCH more labor, time and expensive than doing it yourself. Yet if you find those talented tradesmen and women that are capable of doing work independently instead of being 'babysat' that can be insured, bonded and pass code than go for it!
Give me a spot for a 38' class "A" and I'll volunteer.🇺🇸
That should have been 6/3 wire. Also, romex, by code, isn't allowed to be run in PVC
@@richardharvey3104 I didn't intend to knock anyone. I thought maybe he meant 6/3 and just said 6/2 by mistake. Also, the romex in PVC may be just temporary. But I'd hate to see them spend that much money on wire and find out it's wrong.
My cousins owned a small park in central Wisconsin for about 5 years. They knew the previous owners and bought it when the retired. They enjoyed it the first season. But starting the second season, they started to hate it. They said “the novelty wore off”. My cousin joined the army reserve and that became a recruiter and that was the out they were looking for. They told me they worked 24/7 all season. No breaks and didn’t make enough money to pay their bills. I hope you have better luck! Can’t wait to see how you make this place your own!
Looks like a very promising future. That’s the kid of campground I always look for as far as scenic and quite.
I’d suggest you can get a half dozen sites functioning and advertise for skilled work campers. Trade free parking for labor. Looking forward to future updates.
Totally agree, as a former Master Electrician and Electrical Trades Instructor, I'm all in (and I have supplies).
If i were renovating a campground like that, i would definitely do this
Guys, I would recommend NOT turning the main house into multi-unit rental. You'll end up running it as a B&B and pulling you away from the main purpose....an awesome campground! Just my 2 cents....best if luck and God Bless!😇
I agree. It would be better suited as a the office, store, registration, etc. Just make it more of an RV campground since that's what's in demand.
Office space is easy: pull in a modular/mobile office space. Don’t sacrifice a single square foot of the available “charm” for back office functions. Good luck and God Bless!
Agreed
The wife cried at the end of your video watching Sage enjoying the grounds like she was. Y’all are going to do great just stop the day drinking brunch lol!!
I cried too
Specially right after church. =). and Specially NOT during church. =O
Friends of mine built something similar. They started selling beer so the biker clients wouldn't be riding buzzed to go buy more beer. Good logic goes both ways on that issue.
I see why you love it. It has the reminescent feel of campgrounds of yesteryears. My opinion is start with the bare necessities. What can be saved and what is cost efficient. Maybe, do a tent section, and boondocking. If you can rent out some cabin's that are in good shape, or easy fixes. I know this may be out of left field, but if all goes South, no pun intended. You can use it as a Wedding Venue.
Also, You can rent some of them as is, ie. rooms for rent. RENT to guys or ladies who want to work on the property. Rent for a tiny lower fee and find non lazy individuals who are excited to help you out.
There are ppl like that.
Truly one of your best vlogs to date. The “bubbler” is worthy of restoration. And the ending, powerful. Stay safe and be well.
Thank you John 🙏❤️
@@RVOddCouple John and Mercedes , I hope that you will see were I have commented and what I replied on a few , You got this , your all 3 in my prayers 🙏🕊️💌
I would get as many sights open as possible then charge electric only for RV Odd Squad followers in exchange for labor. Get enough couples involved and a lot can get done in no time. Mowing, painting, some construction jobs. If I was retired I would happy to pitch in a hand.
If we were stateside, my 7 yr old wingman & I would be there with our hammers!!!
Ummmmmm well jeez trust me as a lifelong successful business man I can say you can make it work BUT you have to live it 24/7 and i really mean 24/7
Are you really ready for that? Years of personal sacrifice and money spent...just saying.....life is damn short
Someone suggested a TV series. Brilliant idea and it would finance the restoration. Get busy contacting the channels that do shows about real people. I think this idea is worth pursuing.
You will end up with a huge commercial venture that would loose its massive appeal when the show ended. Than you lost what you fell in love with
3 bedrooms , wow
Yeah, if 'Return to the Chateau' can do it, why can't RV Odd Couple?
The time to ask those questions was before you make the buy decision. Impulse buys really rarely go as imagined. I have watched you for some time and have seen you go down several paths. Pick one and dedicate yourself to it. Good luck. You have a lot of work ahead of you. You may need a well funded partner.
We just love Alabama! We drive 59 down to several places that we camp, that looks like an awesome place! How exciting despite the work ahead! Sounds like people would love to come to you and help, many with trade skills...so many possibilities. Thank you for sharing your adventures with us!
What a gorgeous place. Main house..office, store, registration, and small sitting area. Would love to be able to help! Ask for help from boondockers, good bartering.
Great idea with bartering and trading work.
There's probably a lot of RVrs here that are electricians, plumbers, builders etc.
Maybe you can Trade camping time for help/labor. I'm sure people here would be willing. And def don't try to rebuild the whole place first. Baby steps! And like someone else said you could have boondocking only for a while .
Exactly what I was thinking. Don't know the rules down south, but it's a commercial property, so they probably have to be licensed in that state. I agree, I think that's a great way to go.
An excellent idea.
I just told hubby, y’all should do like Habitat for Humanity. Lots of people on here would come and help and bring in their own tools. Just supply wood, nails, etc and knowledgeable people could help y’all.
Isn't 'due diligence' supposed to be done before making an offer?
Every purchase gives you and inspection period. Plus you can write in the contract and inspection extension, as long as all parties agree.
Absolutely not. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the real estate purchasing process. Good luck
Great to hear Sage talking and she sounds very happy. You both have a lot of people that share your dreams. Break it way down into what’s needed, no matter how small. Just everyday do something. Don’t over think it. Your hearts will show in your work.
A GREAT detailed update - and a FABULOUS FINISH : pro KUDOS to the video videographer/ editor !👏
Thank you John & Mercedes !
Godspeede! 🌞 🌞 🌞
Call local fire department to see if they want to demo for practice.
I see a lot of money being spent. Remember your marriage and family is the most important part of your life.fear the worst and praying for the best. Remember what’s important… your relationship!!!! Please.
Well needs to be secured so children don’t end up at the bottom
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You should reach out to the odd squad for construction, electricity, and general clean-up. I bet a lot of us would be willing to help and volunteer.
Hello J & M. Just wow. I have to admit I'm shocked at your purchase. Mainly due to the fact that it appeared you loved running around the country so much in the 5th wheel. I once had a conversation with a campground owner and he stated " campground owners don't camp". That just about killed my interest in buying a campground. It's a huge commitment for you not only financially, of course, but it's going to be your new life. Year round it's going to be a concern so you may not want to travel very far away for an extended period of time at least for the first 2 or 3 years. I like the " bones" of the park. It's stunning. It's definitely a place I would love to visit. The " fix up " appears overwhelming. If you are looking at this as a short term investment, say 5 years, it could work our very well for you assuming your are comfortable with the time commitment. Unfortunately, I have to admit , I'm concerned that this purchase is too much to take on and could strain your family relationships. I will definitely be praying for you J & M for it all to work out for the best and you will have no regrets. All the BEST ! Gary L.
Thank you for you support and sharing honesty with us Gary. We’ve come to depend on the RV Odd Squad telling us the truth. You raise some great considerations. We Pray everyday for guidance and direction and trust our heart. Our heart is in this and we know we’ve become emotionally attached to the property. Thine will not ours be done 🙏 God Bless and hope to meet you soon❤️
I’ve been down a similar path and you probably already know this but focus on whatever creates cash flow. If that’s primitive and dry camping, at least it’s some cash flow. I’d focus my attention on anything that helps to meet that goal as quickly as possible.
Your first step is the local
BUILDING and ZONING Departments.
Well I pay my contractor $125 an hour in AL for dozier and excavator work. He's just one guy who brings his equipment over and has been clearing land and building my rv park roads. 700 ft of 4 inch water line and about 90 ft of 24" sewer pipe was $2,000. My topographical survey is being done now on phase 1(approx 7 to 8 acres) estimate was 3k to 5k. I needed the topographical survey so my engineer could figure the land drop to lay out sewer lines.
Coming from a business and food and beverage program y’all should really do a realistic ROI on this. Industrial Kitchens alone can cost 10s of thousands in upkeep/repair a year. State regs on hood systems can be costly. Recycling oil/safety requirements/fire suppression etc etc. Not throwing water on ya but I would estimate a third more than things you can think of when building a financial plan.
I'm so excited for you - it does seem daunting, but the hardest part is the first steps! May God provide the strength, and all resources!
Y'all didn't mention it, but it would be a good site for outdoor weddings and receptions. Wedding pictures in areas like that are very popular here, you can easily charge for photography sessions.
Just so you're aware, having a diving board will cost you a lot more for insurance. That's why so many RV parks have removed them. My wife's cousin own a park with a large pool. It was in the Guinness world record as the largest asphalt pool in the world. Not sure if it still is the largest.
Hahaaa John. “Whatever is not allowed at most houses is going here!”
I've lived in the south for 25 years and they still ask me where I'm from :D and "What church do you belong to?" is a very common greeting. Good luck, y'all! It will be a great adventure.
I would turn the main house into registration and store.
This “adventure” could be a TV show. Also, being a Yankee is a complement. It implies resourcefulness, getting by with what you have on hand. Such as the phrase “yankee engineering “.
Ok first, John - learn to speak Southern w/ a little bit of a twang, learn some southernisms like "that dog ain't gonna hunt!" (Pronounced thayat dowg ain gon' huhnt." May need to practice a few times), then if/when asked tell them you're from Oklahoma, Kansas, or Missouri, or your southern Midwestern state of choice. Then you'll be "ok" in their book. 😂🤣
Seriously though, I would start with the office/clubhouse & the best spots you have, & start letting people stay there, & go from there - & pray! I would even highly suggest getting the whole place blessed by a priest or pastor. It may sound crazy but I promise it's the best thing you can do. I got my house blessed & all my vehicles blessed. (There's a story behind that...) It definitely won't hurt!
@@lauraingeorgia5052 I disagree with some of this advice, like trying to develop a southern accent. To us southerners, it just doesn't sound natural coming from someone from outside the south. It'll happen naturally over time, especially if you follow the good advice about using southern phrases like "that dog ain't gonna hunt," or... "it's coming up a cloud" when a storm is brewing.
I agree. Email HGTV! This would make a great show.
@@lauraingeorgia5052 I don't agree with what you said about how us southerners talk , I'm from Mo , as a child and in my 20's I lived in IL for a while and I lived in Michigan for a while , and I can tell you that northerners , they say "almost ran me over" and us southerners say "almost ran over me". And we say soda , not "pop" , our Pop is our Dad or Grandpa . We say creek , not "crick" because it's spelled with the 2 ee's and if you have a speller on your phone that will show you that if you go to write "crick" it will think that you are going to spell cricket , crick has a blue line under to let you know that it's not spelled right ,LOL !! What the northerners call "fireflies , us southerners call "lighting bugs" and what northern people call "craw fish" us southerners call "crawdads" , and northern people call them that because it's a fancy way to call something to make Alot of money in their fancy restaurants , just like the northern people say "escargot". , their fancy way to make "snails' sound delicious for a upscale restaurant to charge for the slimy things us southerners would not eat , we know what a snail is !! LOL. So don't worry about the slang , we are quick to make it friends , and not quick to judge , and we don't walk around with our nose's high in the air , we know about floods and drowning because all rivers have to come down , oh , and we wear boots with shorts and dress's , yes John , even the men wear boots with shorts , because we love the country and back roads and we don't want to have t-shoes on if a snake starts striking at ya !! And we know what a "blue racer snake" is , and how still you have to stay because they will chase anyone who runs !! And we go barefoot in the grass , and at the rivers , (learnto walk on rocks , so you can run on rocks if you ever have to ) !!! Just be yourselves , Us that has been watching your videos , and the ones from the south that you both have met , we all love you just the way you are , honest , God fearing , and straight to the point !! Oh , and if you get lost in the neck of the woods , down creek bed roads , you might want to know , which way a chicken pisses , (if you are asking for direct ) LOL , oh and some of us will use the words like "fellar" and ""fellow" , when talking about a man , and a "young-one" for a child . To northern people we talk funny , but if the northern people would listen really close we don't talk the way they think we are , or like Laura said , which she should know how us southerners are , We Just Talk REALLY FAST , so you just gotta keep up !! I'm from Mo , born and raised and I am proud . God bless you John, Mercedes and Sage 🙏🕊️💌
@@CarlCrumley I totally agree with you , I am from Mo. Born and raised !! 🙏🕊️💌
Can you get a local tree cutter and mill your own wood from your own property? There has to be local lumber mills around.
Lumber ultra expensive Buy yurts
I’m guessing there are A TON of people who would be willing to put their skills to use to help you get things cleaned and put-together. Just sayin’. Have tools, will travel. :-)
Bring the boy scouts - and the girl scouts - out! Some Eagle scouts, have a 10 county major scout event. Or School kids needing to earn a community project for their senior year.
Sad to say but the place closed down for a reason.Think you bought yourself a dead horse
WOW. Beautiful place! A LOT of work, a LOT of money, but oh how awesome it will be when you get it up to ‘snuff’! Can’t imagine a more desirable place to spend vacation, or a nice restful spot on the way in your other travels! Best Wishes and Lots of Prayers heading your way. 😘
You were talking about those pretty fields. They’re not gonna stay that way. First thing you better purchase is a tractor and a large finish mower to start keeping them mowed.
The RV crowd are some of the kindest, most honest, caring, and helpful souls out there, blessed by the fact that you are seeking God's will in this great adventure. Blessings from Savannah, Ga!
What about a few lots for tiny homes and the old house as a museum with a camp host to mange/update.
Also horse camping… just do a few things at a time
It is a lifetime venture!
If they can legally sell off or rent some lots for tiny homes only they could make some money and charge a small yearly fee for maintenance of the landscaping, driveway and light posts.
Just keep in mind with the little one running around that there are snakes and critters that are dangerous in that neck of the woods we live in Tennessee we were surprised at what all we have to watch for copperheads timber Rattlers rattlesnakes the list goes on
Exactly, watch out for snakes especially with the water and rocks.
And yes the man house should be a office main area. Good luck
Wow as beautiful as the campground is, there appears to be a huge amount of money and work required to make it truly useable and able to accommodate others. Building has completely stalled in many areas due to supply chain and cost issues currently. Prayers for your success with this endeavor. 🙏🏼♥️🚐
Think it out and pray,its going to be alright...Take one building at a time...it will come together for you..
The 1930 house is still standing because they built stuff better back then. Lol
Wow, well I say make everything where people might go really safe. Then I would take a fourth of the place that is not needing a major renovation fix it first. (So you have a rental income. ). As you fix existing things it is all tax deduction.
Fix up existing things
I will be praying for you, pray pray pray asking God the Holy Ghost for wisdom discernment and understanding of spiritual things, may God bless you 😍
The house can be a historic site !! People love seeing the past present and future !!
Start over or you’ll be doing non-stop repairs 24/7! And watching Sage run around has me WORRIED about snakes and her being bitten. Please be careful.
It's called the six "P" 's of Life (Proper, Planning, Prevents, Piss, Poor, Performance)
Looks like a money pit, especially considering the current economic conditions. Material and labor costs are a big concern. Not trying to discourage you, but it will be tough. Hope that you can get it figured out and it becomes the diamond in the rough.. GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Remodel guys, it would be alot cheaper than rebuild. Especially right now with the cost of materials. Starting with the roof of the buildings to protect the inside. Alabama gets alot of rain. Also improve and repair existing roads and structures. It will be a working progress but I know you guys can do it 💪
Gods got us
@@RVOddCouple he sure does and has blessed you beyond measure no doubt for this opportunity. God Bless!
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Nothing that is easy is worth much.
Great potential. Slow and steady, don’t over whelm yourselves. I think with pool I would get one of those already made fiberglass pools. A smaller one, fill in where needed and set pool in. Thinking it would help to have smaller for insurance purposes. Have you thought of work campers to help do the work needed? Have fun and enjoy
7/5/21....WHAT A WONDERFUL DISCOVERY---A REAL "DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH"!
BLESSINGS TO A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE!
“Seeking Freedom, independence and adventure”, you certainly have achieved adventure with this campground! Get a master plan together, prioritize the projects. Start with income earning projects. Try to get a number of sites operational, but away from major construction. You have been to a lot of parks and know what you like and what works, so brainstorm a list of that knowledge. You two have the knowledge and ability to create a beautiful place that will draw people in and become a place families will love! I can’t wait to watch this journey as it unfolds.
Welcome to Alabama! You guys are going to love it here! I have a mountain of faith in you and high hopes for Thunder Canyon. Really excited at the prospect of bringing my wife for a visit in the near future.
Money pit....Yeah ok for a minute..."How do you eat an elephant?" "One bite at a time..." It's gonna be great !! Happy 4th to you all !!
You need to get yourselves a portable sawmill, and make your own lumber. Will add to the rustic nature of the place. If any structures are sound, it is almost always cheaper to repair and restore than build new.
There is plenty of land and open spaces , keep as much trees as you can , great for shade . Nature is beautiful , God's blessings , the best things in life are free , and all that God made is beautiful and free , isn't God amazing with all He made and created , and His art work of the sunrise and sunset and the moon and clouds . God has blessed you , He has given you everything that you need to have your dream and a heaven on earth is what I thought of with the videos that we have seen that you shared . My husband and I love all your videos , and the couple of videos that you have sent on this beautiful Alabama land , God guided y'all there for a reason , He is going to walk every centimeter of this blessing with you , John and Mercedes , you both got this because God has you both and your family !! 🙏🕊️💌
This is going to be an epic disaster that we are all going to LOVE! :)
I live in Alabama and so have my ancestors since 1820 and I married a yankee. Small towns here are very tight. When someone asks you where you're from, just admit you're a yankee :) but you moved down here because you love the south and the southern lifestyle/culture. We eat that up. Enjoy the sweet tea, fried green tomatoes, bananna pudding and humidity.
We have a very nice local campground that had a sad start. The husband of the couple who started it from scratch died soon after they opened. The wife trades RV spots for work. It seems to work at well for her.
I would come to you park. I thought...would you consider Harvest Hosting until you are fully up and running. You might have some people who would also help with construction if you let them stay, but they could help with a trade like electrical or carpentry for a week while their family explores your nature trails, etc.
Drop the big hall. Liability. Major Liability issues. Rebuild with concrete block using existing power/water/septic.
@TEE PERO just make sure you reinforce the floor bracing and celing. Looks rather old and not in great shape. Good luck to you both.
The house up on blocks.... that's the way they built great grandma's house that still standing. Before I would tear it down I would see about a contractor redoing and securing the foundation. That's what we did. The house was great. Just wanted to have a more secure foundation. It worth checking into.
The place is beautiful. I think it will be well worth the efforts.
You never you never call me or email me you complain about funds I just purchased 80 acres in Alabama you guys never got back to me 👎👎👎
If it's been closed for 9 years you're going to have major mold issues throughout the entire park, it needs to be torn down. Why didn't you do a Google search and look under Reviews, that would have told you it was 9 years old.
Can’t wait to make a reservation. Let us know when!!! Looks beautiful!! Cleanup first and see what you want to change later.
OH YEA you have a money pit nightmare! I think you have the motivation to make it work and there is a lot of satisfaction to making a business like this work. When I am in the area I will defiantly stay at your park.
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Ask the bank for the second million first. That first million will disappear quick there.
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Consider making the residence into a lodge, which could combine office functions, community space, and rental space.
I went to a campground before and they had a game room. It was in the main office area. It had about 10 old but not old arcade games. a bench so kids can sit. and poll tables and also air hockey. The kids loved it!
You two can do anything!!! When I get my RV, I’ll be there!
I don't have a RV. and I want to come down and help. Make paths and trails through the woods, and fix the Historic pool.
This hurts me to say but years ago I did the same thing. The costs to bring the park to where it needed to be was just over double what the purchase price was.
Looks like a great location for filming, HALLOWEEN 36...
You two are so awesome and God is with you in all this. If money is needed you should pre-book sites for the first few weeks and have a Grand Opening Week with the ones that paid up Front...
You can't keep the diving board because of insurance purposes. Public pool insurance is going to cost you a fortune, not to mention re-doing that massive pool.
Looks like a great spot for sure but I can easily see 2 million dollars being spent to get it up to a reasonable standard.
Secure the old blacksmith house and deep well for liability
A money pit, but you'll have lots of friends to share it with. Put people to work when they come to visit.
Yeah, trade for parking 😄
Oh boy,it’s a money pit!! Sad to say!! Beautiful,but this is not the time.BUT it could be paradise!
I am totally with the vacuum tube junkie give me a space and I’d love to volunteer and even more than that I am an investor. I am a carpenter by trade and a builder and a small developer and I know that I could be a benefit to your organization if you want contact me in all the usual ways. Thomyt