You’re quietly confident in your comments and driving ability… I liked the little joyful chuckles with each wagging acceleration… reminded me of my 1970 Blazer in Low range. (Back then when mentioning my Blazer people thought a new sport coat) my first 4 wheel drive vehicle. After several Wagoneers and another Blazer, I am trading my current Forrester XT for my newly arrived Black OBW next week. Your video, & Driving SportsTV, Present a solid knowledgeable overview of a vehicles capabilities - gained through your hands on experience - Not parroting the many wannabe car guys. It’s refreshing thanks
Topher, you keep mentioning the infotainment and not getting the big screen. You can't get a non-large-infotainment unless you buy the base model. EVERY trim above the base model comes with that screen. The $1800 package gets you built in nav, moon roof and reverse automatic braking
Awesome review. of a truly unique and wonderfully engineered car. Marvelous video. Perhaps this is the only Outback turbo review which does not trash the CVT. Rather, this video commends the CVT, which makes this review real. The CVT gives a fabulous driving experience in the turbo versions of the Outback (Wilderness, Onyx XT and Touring XT). Subaru dealers, you would be wise to take note of "The Topher's" work and show this video to your customers. Enough cannot be said about how accurate, well thought out and enjoyable this video is. Terrific camera work. The train in the background at the end was downright artistic. Well done and strong work Topher. Thank you. R.Henry, M.D. (Outback Onyx XT owner)
I've been really geeking out over these wilderness outbacks. Considering one of these to replace our "little-hatchback-that-could-but-not-for-much-longer" family hauler! Im sure the onyx will also work for us just as well.
I just do not believe this can be that much capable than a even a regular outback, minus the obv higher ground clearance. However, 1 grand n u can lift any outback higher than this by a little. So theres that. I can care less about modes. I never use em anyway. I love this car n im only knocking it because of the price n thats it. In general vehicles are so overpriced so im not knocking subaru alone here. Its just for 40 plus grand, there are new, new, rubicons to be bought off of the showroom floor. Ur gonna say, they're 50 grand. They can be bought for just over 40, many examples, still, up to last month for a fact that i can prove have sold. So thats only for the person who wants a real offroader, this obv isnt. None the less, i love subaru n have an outback. A 2010, i got recently with a 100k miles n got it for 5500 bucks cash from a local seller n im happy with it. But i do not believe id be even remotely happy if i had paid more than that tbh. To think someone paid 26k for that back then n it wasnt the highest trim either. The regular Subaru's haven't increased in price in a while much, n this is a way for subaru to demand more from the lower trim cars n its mire about that than anything else. I see the fine details others dont pay attention to. Regardless i like it.
I chose this over the regular outback not because of the lift or anything but I just prefer the look of the wilderness over the boring regular outback, at least in my opinion.
Subaru is going to cash in on all these wilderness models. I've already seen a few of these on the road and they look cool and you dont look like another boring CUV driver.
Dude this video brings me so much joy to watch. Looking to buy one of these and this is exactly the way I plan on existing when it snows. The giggles are hilarious. Great stuff.
Whipping around in the beginning around @2:50 - This is the first time I have seen adaptive headlights moving with the wheel. Looks awesome, could see how this can become one of those "never can live without again" features in future cars. Also Subaru, come 2025, if you want to make outbacks the perfect vehicle, let the rear glass open separate like old school body on frame SUVS - so much easier to haul long cargo. Could even figure a way to make 4x8 sheet goods fit out the rear somehow. Trucks would become obsolete. Good work Topher.
Your reviews are great! We can get specs, etc. anywhere, but you do a good job of showing us what it's like to drive vehicles. (You also make me miss my home state of Michigan).
Drove one while my 18 Crosstrek Limited was getting the modem upgrade. Moves pretty well. The biggest downer for me is the screen, which you are much more dependent on in this model, disappears in my polarized sunglasses.
Dealer called me up and said they had a black one arriving. Man , are they hard to find. Put the down over the phone and picked it up. Best bang for the buck!
To Subaru’s credit this whole Wilderness trim idea is a good one. Here in the NW there are tonsssssss of Outbacks and Crosstreks running around with modifications like this (lift, knobbier tires, body cladding, etc). Just wish they’d dial in the CVT tuning a little bit more and add some more physical controls to supplement the touchscreen.
I just got the 2022 Wilderness, and I’m still torn on the infotainment.. I have the 2019 Ascent, so I love the actual buttons for AC and other controls. However, just got the factory firmware update, and the controls that were annoying in the 11.6” are larger and more accessible. I just wish for the expensive wilderness trim, they would have included the Harman Kardon system
Was in the market for a new vehicle to daily and have fun in. At the same time being convenient wi to my two kids. I currently own a 2020 type r, 2003 ep3 si and an 06 superduty. After watching your couple vids on the wilderness I ordered one. Chose this over the 22 si. Test drove it but they had to order mine. Excited for March
The one thing about the OBW is that it has a real regular spare tire instead of the donut. It is the only Subaru with the real spare tire. Subaru needs to change out the white fog lights the suck. The white fog lights reflect the light in rain and especially in snow conditions, Subaru needs to go with the yellow fog lights. By the way the snow you are in is nothing try it in about a foot or 2 feet of snow.
Don't let the naysayers on the internet turn you off of this vehicle the CVT the Subaru CVT has been in development since I believe the late '80s, it's not a maintenance free transmission every 65,000 miles you change the fluid but other than that it works.
Way back in 2013, the Outback had a widespread problem of batteries going dead. But by 2014...it was still happening. Finally in 2015...it was still happening. But then in 2016...it was still happening. However, by 2017...it was still happening. It also happened in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022. But Subaru finally found the official cause- the customers weren't driving their cars enough. All this time it was the customers' fault. What a company!
Hey bro I would absolutely love your input. I'm shopping for a sporty sedan and since you drive them all I'm curious which you would choose. I'm 6'2" and 250#'s so comfort is high on my criteria. Also less than $65k. Tech is not high priority. High performance and dynamic driving experience is top priority. I like the ct5 v, m340i and m440i gran coupe....also s5 sportback. What would you buy? Looking for a touring car. I'm 5 to 6 hours away from the twisty's in any direction. Please bro, your input is much appreciated
Really great car. Shows what you can accomplish even without snow tires. My 2012 Outback is a dinosaur compared to this car's snow handling technology, but slap snow tires on it and it is a winter beast. I think that this car with snow tires would be an even more impressive car for winter driving. I live in Upstate New York and every car that isn't a pickup truck is a Subaru. For good reason
Great video! Really like the night drives. Have either you or Charlie tried out the Harman Kardon in the new Subaru Outback? If you have, what are your thoughts? I have seen that Charlie did a test on the base system a while back, but not the Harman Kardon.
I have that and the sound is real crisp and clear, although save your money and get some Boston acoustics speakers the Harman kardon are pretty much you're paying for the name.
I wish Subaru add first physical gear in their CVT like Toyota, more comfortable in stop and go traffic. And shorter front hang, every generation it getting longer and longer. Why? Anyway love their AWD.
how do these yokohama G015 3pmsf rated ALL TERRAIN (not "all season") tyres compare to winter tyres or 3pmsf all season tyres? you mentioned "a more aggressive all season" for comparison but were you referring to a US style all season that is not made for snow (ie 3 season tyre) or a proper 4 season all season that is 3PMSF rated??
yah weird subaru america doesnt get its customers heated steering wheels. The Canadians most get them all because most of 90% of subaru models get them!
What's the difference between pushing a button on a stereo head and pushing a button on a screen? I'm not a fanboy by any means but it's just a different colored apple you're trying to compare
@@Crazy-Chicken-Media One involved muscle memory and not necessarily looking down. One works with gloves and one doesn’t. One doesn’t lag, one does. Do I need to go on?
@@alh06 I don't drive with gloves on so I haven't tested that and lag... Have noticed that. If you can't afford one then just say that, nothing to be ashamed of. As for muscle memory, this is a few steps above the 2000 Nissan Xterra that it has replaced been 4 days since I bought it and I'm not having any trouble finding buttons. I think you just might be nitpicking.
@@Crazy-Chicken-Media You're being rather rude. I stated the wide gap between usability and reliability between these new models and the older ones. Vincent, I own a 2019 3.6r limited, far more expensive than this one. You don't need to defend this product and insult me for finding notable faults.
Topher, why oh why does Subaru stubbornly stick with CVT transmission!? OK, it gets a little better M.P.G. -but hurts performance on and off road, feels and sounds weird, and is not as reliable as a traditional automatic (hence Subaru's 10 yr warranty) Are they just cheaper to make?
Is there any reason why would I not be able to make fun my own? Why all these fancy traction types allowing me limited or none fun to drive…subaru’s took wrong path.
thetopher+snow=more miles on the car than it actually travelled
Finally a real review of this thing, not the other "review" channels that just drive down the road, hit the brakes and go yeah its good.
one of the best looking wagons on the market right now
You’re quietly confident in your comments and driving ability…
I liked the little joyful chuckles with each wagging acceleration… reminded me of my 1970 Blazer in Low range.
(Back then when mentioning my Blazer people thought a new sport coat) my first 4 wheel drive vehicle.
After several Wagoneers and another Blazer, I am trading
my current Forrester XT for my newly arrived Black OBW next
week.
Your video, & Driving SportsTV,
Present a solid knowledgeable overview of a vehicles capabilities - gained through your hands on experience -
Not parroting the many wannabe car guys.
It’s refreshing thanks
Topher, you keep mentioning the infotainment and not getting the big screen. You can't get a non-large-infotainment unless you buy the base model. EVERY trim above the base model comes with that screen. The $1800 package gets you built in nav, moon roof and reverse automatic braking
When I see thetopher post, I simply like it
Awesome review. of a truly unique and wonderfully engineered car. Marvelous video. Perhaps this is the only Outback turbo review which does not trash the CVT. Rather, this video commends the CVT, which makes this review real. The CVT gives a fabulous driving experience in the turbo versions of the Outback (Wilderness, Onyx XT and Touring XT). Subaru dealers, you would be wise to take note of "The Topher's" work and show this video to your customers. Enough cannot be said about how accurate, well thought out and enjoyable this video is. Terrific camera work. The train in the background at the end was downright artistic. Well done and strong work Topher. Thank you.
R.Henry, M.D. (Outback Onyx XT owner)
I've been really geeking out over these wilderness outbacks. Considering one of these to replace our "little-hatchback-that-could-but-not-for-much-longer" family hauler! Im sure the onyx will also work for us just as well.
I just do not believe this can be that much capable than a even a regular outback, minus the obv higher ground clearance.
However, 1 grand n u can lift any outback higher than this by a little.
So theres that.
I can care less about modes. I never use em anyway.
I love this car n im only knocking it because of the price n thats it.
In general vehicles are so overpriced so im not knocking subaru alone here.
Its just for 40 plus grand, there are new, new, rubicons to be bought off of the showroom floor.
Ur gonna say, they're 50 grand.
They can be bought for just over 40, many examples, still, up to last month for a fact that i can prove have sold.
So thats only for the person who wants a real offroader, this obv isnt.
None the less, i love subaru n have an outback.
A 2010, i got recently with a 100k miles n got it for 5500 bucks cash from a local seller n im happy with it.
But i do not believe id be even remotely happy if i had paid more than that tbh. To think someone paid 26k for that back then n it wasnt the highest trim either.
The regular Subaru's haven't increased in price in a while much, n this is a way for subaru to demand more from the lower trim cars n its mire about that than anything else.
I see the fine details others dont pay attention to.
Regardless i like it.
I chose this over the regular outback not because of the lift or anything but I just prefer the look of the wilderness over the boring regular outback, at least in my opinion.
I just bought one of these, it's a culture shock considering the vehicle that it is replacing was a 2000 Nissan Xterra 4x4 5-speed manual.
Topher out at 6am damn
I have seen so many of these outback’s wilderness on the road and it actually looks pretty good
Subaru is going to cash in on all these wilderness models. I've already seen a few of these on the road and they look cool and you dont look like another boring CUV driver.
Every car you drive, I want. This one, however, is hitting close to home. I want to put a rooftop tent, LED light bar, and skid plates on it SO BAD.
Dude this video brings me so much joy to watch. Looking to buy one of these and this is exactly the way I plan on existing when it snows. The giggles are hilarious. Great stuff.
Whipping around in the beginning around @2:50 - This is the first time I have seen adaptive headlights moving with the wheel. Looks awesome, could see how this can become one of those "never can live without again" features in future cars. Also Subaru, come 2025, if you want to make outbacks the perfect vehicle, let the rear glass open separate like old school body on frame SUVS - so much easier to haul long cargo. Could even figure a way to make 4x8 sheet goods fit out the rear somehow. Trucks would become obsolete. Good work Topher.
I drive to work at 0400 and drive home at 1800 so I really appreciate these night drive vids. 👍💯
What's your job if you don't mind me asking? I couldn't imagine going to sleep just and hour or two right after work
0400 and 1800, are you in the military by some chance lol.
@@rodbelding952318:00 is normal time here where I live
Looks like you're having fun, and that's a big win for Subaru. These things are cool.
This made me miss my car so much. Nothing like sliding in a subie in the dead of night w a fresh layer on the roads.
The Outback is hands-down one of the most fun (and stable, safe and reliable) cars to drive in snow. It's almost freaky just how good it is.
Your reviews are great! We can get specs, etc. anywhere, but you do a good job of showing us what it's like to drive vehicles. (You also make me miss my home state of Michigan).
I took the Geolanders off, an now have Toyo A/TIII's. They grip very well in dry and wet weather and do very well in mud.
That boot clap hits the spot
Whoever gets an outback will not be disappointed i have the onyx edition LOVE IT Just wish i had a chance at Wilderness edition GREAT VEHICLE SUBARU
Drove one while my 18 Crosstrek Limited was getting the modem upgrade. Moves pretty well. The biggest downer for me is the screen, which you are much more dependent on in this model, disappears in my polarized sunglasses.
Nice video Chris!
Hi topher. Elite videos man
Heck yeah, love these subie’s. Might have to get one someday!
Dude, this is the exact content I was looking for. Thank you so much.
Dealer called me up and said they had a black one arriving. Man , are they hard to find. Put the down over the phone and picked it up. Best bang for the buck!
The snow sliding was so fun to watch. Nothing like it here in florida
Very informative video for experienced drivers wanting to know how the vehicle preforms when you need it to. Impressed. Great Vid! 👍
To Subaru’s credit this whole Wilderness trim idea is a good one. Here in the NW there are tonsssssss of Outbacks and Crosstreks running around with modifications like this (lift, knobbier tires, body cladding, etc). Just wish they’d dial in the CVT tuning a little bit more and add some more physical controls to supplement the touchscreen.
They did change the cvt tuning for the wilderness trim, this vehicle basically has the same drive train as the ascent
I just got the 2022 Wilderness, and I’m still torn on the infotainment.. I have the 2019 Ascent, so I love the actual buttons for AC and other controls. However, just got the factory firmware update, and the controls that were annoying in the 11.6” are larger and more accessible. I just wish for the expensive wilderness trim, they would have included the Harman Kardon system
Outback Subaru what i got! 😍❤️
You have a good driving technique.
The 2023 models have a vastly improved Infotainment. Also the $1800 option includes a moonroof, and sound/tweeter package.
Excellent video,
Was in the market for a new vehicle to daily and have fun in. At the same time being convenient wi to my two kids.
I currently own a 2020 type r, 2003 ep3 si and an 06 superduty. After watching your couple vids on the wilderness I ordered one. Chose this over the 22 si. Test drove it but they had to order mine. Excited for March
The one thing about the OBW is that it has a real regular spare tire instead of the donut. It is the only Subaru with the real spare tire.
Subaru needs to change out the white fog lights the suck. The white fog lights reflect the light in rain and especially in snow conditions,
Subaru needs to go with the yellow fog lights.
By the way the snow you are in is nothing try it in about a foot or 2 feet of snow.
Nice! I just am not a fan of the transmission. But i'll say the headlights are great in this!
Don't let the naysayers on the internet turn you off of this vehicle the CVT the Subaru CVT has been in development since I believe the late '80s, it's not a maintenance free transmission every 65,000 miles you change the fluid but other than that it works.
@@Crazy-Chicken-Media You should be changing the fluid more than that. My father was a prior owner and his failed at 28k miles with standard use
@@alh06 neat.
@@alh06 Autos blow all the time. But thanks for your one example.
*the best AWD system
At this point the outback is about as much a wagon as I am a vegan
Nice video as usual. Intetesting to see the wipers sweep just in the same time as the gauge sweep 😂
Looks nice
Very nice video, good luck 🇹🇷
Way back in 2013, the Outback had a widespread problem of batteries going dead. But by 2014...it was still happening. Finally in 2015...it was still happening. But then in 2016...it was still happening. However, by 2017...it was still happening. It also happened in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022. But Subaru finally found the official cause- the customers weren't driving their cars enough. All this time it was the customers' fault. What a company!
Legit car.
Looks like a lot of fun
The 11.6 inch screen is standard on the Wilderness, it's literally what you are touching in this video.
Have you driven a 2024 Outback Wilderness yet? I’d like to hear your thoughts on it, thanks as always!
Great tips!!
Auto high beams don’t turn off when you turn they turn off when you get below a certain speed.
Hey bro I would absolutely love your input. I'm shopping for a sporty sedan and since you drive them all I'm curious which you would choose. I'm 6'2" and 250#'s so comfort is high on my criteria. Also less than $65k. Tech is not high priority. High performance and dynamic driving experience is top priority. I like the ct5 v, m340i and m440i gran coupe....also s5 sportback. What would you buy? Looking for a touring car. I'm 5 to 6 hours away from the twisty's in any direction. Please bro, your input is much appreciated
That B58 3.0 liter in the BMWs is an absolute legend & paired to the reliable ZF 8 speed
@@toddlehman1 yeah and I really like the versatility of having a hatchback
I would go with the m340i
Really great car. Shows what you can accomplish even without snow tires. My 2012 Outback is a dinosaur compared to this car's snow handling technology, but slap snow tires on it and it is a winter beast. I think that this car with snow tires would be an even more impressive car for winter driving. I live in Upstate New York and every car that isn't a pickup truck is a Subaru. For good reason
Can the screen brightness be turned down/off? As well as the dash lights?
Great question!
How are those geolanders in the snow, i know they got the peak on them but are they actually any good?
Interesting. In canada all outback models come with heated steering
Great video! Really like the night drives. Have either you or Charlie tried out the Harman Kardon in the new Subaru Outback? If you have, what are your thoughts? I have seen that Charlie did a test on the base system a while back, but not the Harman Kardon.
I have that and the sound is real crisp and clear, although save your money and get some Boston acoustics speakers the Harman kardon are pretty much you're paying for the name.
@@Crazy-Chicken-Media Nice, thank you!
I wish Subaru add first physical gear in their CVT like Toyota, more comfortable in stop and go traffic. And shorter front hang, every generation it getting longer and longer. Why?
Anyway love their AWD.
They want to make the car bigger but don’t want to increase the wheelbase too much. Hence the longer overhangs.
Sadly there’s like 3,000 Subarus period in the US. Can’t find this model to save my life !
Good Video
You can’t scroll the light dim switch on left side of steering wheel all the way down after a click till it turns interior light on?
What was it like in regular snow mode?
Cool man
how do these yokohama G015 3pmsf rated ALL TERRAIN (not "all season") tyres compare to winter tyres or 3pmsf all season tyres? you mentioned "a more aggressive all season" for comparison but were you referring to a US style all season that is not made for snow (ie 3 season tyre) or a proper 4 season all season that is 3PMSF rated??
What MPG are you getting?
they will never though it was a sub drifting in a parking space
yah weird subaru america doesnt get its customers heated steering wheels. The Canadians most get them all because most of 90% of subaru models get them!
I mean, if you step up to a limited or touring trim it's available, just for some reason not on the Onyx + Wilderness, which is dumb I'd say.
Pretty sure xmode only works under 25mph so that’s why it’s not doing much haha.
Subaru will never do away with the CVT and that's disappointing.
Only reason I won't even consider getting one.
OK… this is a ‘wilderness’ car, and yet certain items are not even available, like heated steering wheel?!
All the functions integrated in the infotainment system just kills it for me. Well guess I am sticking with my 15 legacy.
What's the difference between pushing a button on a stereo head and pushing a button on a screen?
I'm not a fanboy by any means but it's just a different colored apple you're trying to compare
@@Crazy-Chicken-Media One involved muscle memory and not necessarily looking down. One works with gloves and one doesn’t. One doesn’t lag, one does. Do I need to go on?
@@alh06 I don't drive with gloves on so I haven't tested that and lag... Have noticed that. If you can't afford one then just say that, nothing to be ashamed of. As for muscle memory, this is a few steps above the 2000 Nissan Xterra that it has replaced been 4 days since I bought it and I'm not having any trouble finding buttons.
I think you just might be nitpicking.
@@RollGlide neat, on both accounts. It's still nitpicking.
@@Crazy-Chicken-Media You're being rather rude. I stated the wide gap between usability and reliability between these new models and the older ones. Vincent, I own a 2019 3.6r limited, far more expensive than this one. You don't need to defend this product and insult me for finding notable faults.
Topher, why oh why does Subaru stubbornly stick with CVT transmission!? OK, it gets a little better M.P.G. -but hurts performance on and off road, feels and sounds weird, and is not as reliable as a traditional automatic (hence Subaru's 10 yr warranty) Are they just cheaper to make?
The whine from the cvt is a bit concerning
locura
arucol
lack of ambient lighting in the dark is the 1 drawback to this car
15 year old behind the wheel, look out…
Fourth
Is there any reason why would I not be able to make fun my own? Why all these fancy traction types allowing me limited or none fun to drive…subaru’s took wrong path.
Looks like a soccer mom civic hatchback on testosterone. Not steroids though