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American NFL Fan Reacts to the AFL's Mason Cox: Dont Believe in Never
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ย. 2022
- Whats up all!!! This American NFL Fan is LOVIN THE AFL!!! Im as new to EVERYTHING AFL as Mason was when he boldly made the move to Australia to play this incredible game!! Cmon to da Basement to watch his amazing journey!! #BasementMentality
The big man proved us wrong, and in the end managed to gain the respect of pretty much the whole country, for not giving up, and improving his skills enough to be considered a decent enough player. He took all the shit from everyone on the chin, and persevered. His now a duel US/Aussie citizen.
Much respect ti Mason for hanging in there...Its not easy to flip a fanbase BUT winning does fix everything!! Thanks for commenting Kirk! #BasementMentality
@@johnnybasement430 Yeah he totally flipped the fans!!! the crowd actually chants U.S.A when he kicks a goal. Also a Great interview with Pat McAfee here if ur interested. th-cam.com/video/cEy4W243srY/w-d-xo.html
No problems for the comment, Happy Thanksgiving to you mate!!! And enjoy your AFL adventure.
That and Mason was always a good bloke (always helps in Australia).
@@davehocking4091 He seems a very decent young man, and definitely a good bloke. I love his accent sliding between Yank and Aussie, very endearing. Plus a has continued to develop his skills with perseverance and grace.
When Mason came here , specifically to learn to play , the "haters" came out of the woodwork . I (and many others) thought it was a bold move and we should give him a chance . But , you know , most players spend their lives trying to be the best players they can be to make it to the AFL and then there's this "blow in" being handed this opportunity that they were struggling for . I can see their point but , on the other hand , the game deserves to go international and this is how you do it.
Great points brother! I can see it from both sides BUT I agree more with your point that Mason DID make a BOLD move leaving a 6 figure job AND basically blowing off all the money spent on his education to chase a sport he knows NOTHING about in AUSTRALIA which he also knows nothing about and will have no familiar faces to turn to. On the flip, Mason suffers boos n hate while he struggles to understand the game when there are those who have been training round the clock only to watch an outsider stroll in and take their spot. I get it...Im absolutely enjoying learning more about Footy(love that I nailed that one😀😎!!!) and also am grateful for all of your help Mikey!! You amongst many others have been so informative in helping this American get educated!! I read all of your detailed comments and thank you for taking the time to do so!! Much respect to you Mikey!! #BasementMentality
Doubting someone who has never played the game is perfectly reasonable. It doesn't make you a "hater". That kind of thinking is just juvenile. The fact that he was reasonably doubted, just shows how well he has done.
@@johnnybasement430 nobody hated him like people say. There were doubts about his ability as he had never played the game. Which makes his achievements even more impressive
@@Lnch4ALion Which is why I have the word "haters" in inverted commas, you do understand how grammar works, right?
To have your first kick, first goal, in your first match, on ANZAC day is mindblowing
I hate Collingwood, and don't like Mason because he plays for Collingwood, but this vid still gives me chills every time I watch it. He has done really well and continues to thrive in his new sport.
I'm a West Coast Eagles supporter and I really like Mason. I'm extremely pleased to welcome him as an Aussie😊😊
Oh... and he's just short of 7"
Jason Holmes played for St Kilda(the first American)
A great genuine bloke, great sense of humor, and I'm very happy he came to my club Collingwood.
...and now he has a Premiership medal. He was part of the team that won the Grand Final in 2023.
And he’s now a premiership player Johnny (championship) - time for a follow up vid. We love it when Americans make content about our great indigenous game!
Pretty sure the first American to play AFL was Jason Holmes. He played AFL for St.Kilda. There was also a Canadian Mike Pike who played for Sydney. You really need to watch something about the rules. There are a number of videos that have been produced by the AFL. Once you understand a little better you will appreciate the game a lot more. It's a game of nonstop action for 100 minutes. Nothing like you have ever seen. Players are SUPER fit. Keep in mind this game has been played here since 1858. Most people outside Australia find that hard to comprehend. They tend to think AFL is taken from other sports when in fact Aussie Rules has been around long before. Anyway enjoy the ride, you will see some things in this sport you won't believe can happen. ENJOY
If you're looking to watch or play Aussie Rules in New York there is a team New York Magpies that have a mens and womens team
He’s just played his 100 th game and that’s called a career in AFL - some go onto play 300 games (5 have played 400) but he’s made a lot of people eat their words - his one advantage he didn’t have any bad habits from playing whilst growing up - he’s good value
As an American who's lived in Australia, there's a couple of things that need to be explained here. First is ANZAC Day. ANZAC (Australia New Zealand Armed Corps) day is like our Memorial Day, Armed Forces Day, and Veterans Day, all rolled into one, so you know how important that is to celebrate the sacrifices the military has given.. To the fact that they take the day off for the ANZAC Day match, which has always been Collingwood versus Essendon, since 1995. It's arguably the 2nd highest attended game of the entire year, second only to the Grand Final.
It's a big deal and celebrated when you play your first major game of AFL Footy. It's an even bigger deal when you kick your first goal in footy. You're in rare company when your first kick of the ball is for a goal. Mason Cox, in his first game of AFL footy, in his first possession of the ball, kicks his first goal, ON ANZAC DAY. That's the equivalent of say, Michael Jordan hitting a 3-pointer for his first possession of the ball in his career, or O'Dell Beckham making his famous catch for a touchdown in his first game, on Veteran's Day. It's that big. That's why the commentators said "Could you believe that an American, in his first game, kicks the first goal, on ANZAC Day? That didn't just happen!!"
And then, that preliminary final. It's the equivalent of the AFC or NFC conference championship in the NFL. Winner goes to the Super Bowl while the loser plans for next season. Richmond were favorites to win that game, especially as they had a record of 28 straight wins at the MCG.. You saw what happened, and what impact Mason had. It even made the news up here, and got a lot of people into the AFL, especially since off the back of his work in that game, Collingwood got to the Grand Final.
I can understand the reaction Mason got when he came over completely green to the sport, the people in the AFL have been playing it literally since they were old enough to walk, and have honed their skills to the highest level, it was impossible to think that any athlete could just walk into the sport and succeed at the top level.
The fact that he pulled it off just makes him even more amazing, frankly.
there's a guy in the video named Anthony Rocca...who's brother sav rocca played some nfl after retiring from afl..
Wasn't Sav a punter for the New York Jets?
@@kevkoala I think the eagles and some one else
@@bowriverblues8445 I know he punted for a couple of teams. As it is..there's a few Aussie punters in the NFL. Fletch's son has a boot on him like his old man
There have been a few people like Mason Cox who have migrated to Australia to strictly play AFL and became legends in the game.
Jim Stynes from Ireland also did the same. Shifting from professional Gaelic Football to AFL Football. Sadly we lost him quite young to Cancer, but he was a legend in his own right and ended up President of his beloved Melbourne Football Club.
RIP ❤️
Jim Synes was indeed a legend and much loved and respected from all teams and all fans. Gone too soon.
A contested mark, is essentially a catch within a pack of players. If you mark a ball, you are free to kick or handpass without fear of interference.
6 points to a kick between the big sticks and is a goal,and 1 point if kicked either side between the shorter sticks.
A scoreline that reads 15 .10. 100, 15 goals kicked, and 10 points. Added together make 100 points.
Hope this helps
Coxy did it again in a final vs West Coast in 2020. Tore the game apart in the first quarter.
Also had a great 2022 season, as did Collingwood in general - worth checking out.
Up the Pies, and up the Irons!! 🤘🏼
2022 is by far his best overall season, he was great, he wasn't doing what he was trying to do the previous years, he was playing to his strengths and it was awesome, him and Darcy Cameron were a really good duo for us. His best game was by far that 2018 Prelim.
Fun fact.. Anthony Rocca who is interviewed in this clip has a brother Sav who played in the NFL as a punter. :)
Great reaction. I think you need to watch "What is AFL". That'll answer a lot of questions for you.
Love your energy mate, glad to see you found the best sport on the planet that alot of people know nothing about outside of Australia
I am a lifetime Hawks fan but always liked what Mason was able to do as a total stranger to the game.I came to Australia as a 12yr old from England & had the same reaction to "footy". The ball was like a rugby ball.....end of similarity. Through the years he has had trouble enough to end a players career & come out the other side.Strength to Mason at all times from me.He is a premiership winning player.... to Aussies that's like winning a Superbowl. He's a big man,but he now has the record to go with his stature. I am always impressed & happy when any overseas player makes it big.Mason Cox is one,no doubt. Well done young man !
Yep , " Footy" is the colloquial term . "Footy" is used waaaaaay more than any other term . We only use "AFL" or whatever when talking to outsiders , where we have to be more specific . In everyday conversation though , it's just Footy .
"VFL" is like the minor leagues . Every state has it's own league . AFL is the Australian football league , VFL is Victorian , you have the SANFL (South Australia) WAFL (Western Australia) well ..... you get the picture . So when a player is rested from the AFL or have to return from injury or whatever they usually make their way back to the AFL through their local state league. Usually but not always , it's not like a rule or anything.
You are a naughty boy Johnny. In my long description of the game, I told you that when you take a mark, (catch) you can play on or stop on the spot and take a kick. That’s what he did, he took a mark then had a shot for goal without anyone interfering with him. There is no such thing as a field goal. It’s just a goal whether you kick it on the run. or stop on the spot, it’s still just a goal.
A contested mark is in a contest with other players also trying to mark the ball. A mark that is not contested is when you take it out on your own with no other players around.
Catching the ball on the full is really important in Aussie Rules . We call it "Marking" the ball . Any catch (Mark) will earn you the option of a "Free Kick" or an unimpeded kick , where you can't be tackled . So Marking the ball within scoring distance is a hero move obviously. (also "scoring distance" is completely arbitrary) Usually within 50 metres or less is considered "scoring distance" . If you mark within 50 you can have a free shot at the goal . A "goal" will get you 6 points . In that first shot of Mason , he marked the ball right in front of goal , which was also his first ever touch in AFL , then he scored . It was pretty cool.
Watch any youtube video on "best Marks" .
VFL stands for the Victorian Football League. Victoria is the state in which Aussie Rules was born. Most states and territories have their own football leagues, some more recent than others. The oldest and most popular leagues are notably in Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania. These leagues act as feeders into the Australian Football League (AFL) where the professionals play.
Thank you for such a detailed comment brother!! Im a student of the game and am thrilled for all the help you and others are offering me Mikey!! #BasementMentality
A ruckman: At the beginning of a game or after a goal is scored the ball is taken to the centre of the ground and the umpire bounces or throws the ball up in the air and a player from each team - usually the tallest players on the ground - jump up to try and get the ball. Basically like a jump ball in basketball. The players who contest these "ball ups" are called "ruckmen". (Something similar happens after other stopages or the ball rolls out of play, but the umpire throws the ball up or back into play at the point of the stopages.)
I loved him from the day he played his first Anzac day. I had faith in him
There is a league in the US. with over 50 teams playing competitively (U.S.A.F.L.). It is gaining popularity around the world and is also played in Europe and Japan.
Also AFL in spirit comes from an indigenous game , it was then modified to become a winter sport to keep cicketers fit. Since 1858 our game has grown to the behemoth it now is. Has to be my favourite sport , followed by NFL..😁
I am happy that AFL is spreading and getting popular.
Mason Cox. 211 cm = 6' 11".
Man, your so funny. Love your energy. 🫶
Aussie Rules is the code, AFL is the peak national league (like NFL, MLB, etc.), VFL is the state based feeder league (like baseball minor leagues, hockey minors, etc.)
Now he is a premiership player, first American born player since Don Pyke, and the first American born and raised player to win a title (Don Pyke moved to Australia when he was 3)
Don't worry pal! You're learning. It's great to see.
Footy? Yes!!
VFL is like Triple A baseball. AFL listed players who don't play in the senior AFL team play VFL.
A mark is a catch from a kick that travels 15mtrs or more.
A contested mark is catching the ball against one or more opponents who are attempting to also mark or spoil the player attempting the mark.
If you take a mark in general play, you can either stop and take your kick or handball, or play on immeediately. if you stop, you have approx. 8 seconds to dispose of the ball before the umpire calls play on and your opponent can then attempt to tackle you.
If you take a mark and the umpire adjudges you're within goal scoring distance (usually anywhere inside or around the 50mtr arc) you get 30 seconds to kick at goal. Very similar to a field goal.
If the ball goes between the 2 middle posts, it's a goal and worth 6 points. If it hits the popst, or goes between the middle post and the lower outside post, it's a behind and worth 1 point.
Collingwood's final score was 15 7 97. That's 15 goal (15 x 6 = 90) + 7 behinds (7 x 1 = 7) for a total of 97 points.
Finally (Lol), field positions.
There are 18 players on the field - 6 in defence, 6 in the midfield and 6 forwards.
At the start of each quarter and after every goal, the ball is bounced in the centre of the ground and the two opposing ruckmen attempt to hit the ball to the advantage of their midfielders.
In general play, if a stoppage of play occurs the umpire throw the ball up, and the two ruckmen will contest the ball.
Also, if the ball goes over the boundary lines, the boundary umpire will heave the ball over their shoulder (with their back to the field), and the two ruckmen will contest the ball.
It sounds complicated, but it makes sense once you watch a game.
Check out the AFL best of the decade. Goals, marks, bumps and tackles. You'll love it.
Keep enjoying our great game champ!
Thank you so much for this in depth comment!!!! This has helped me tremendously AND Ill be using your comment as a reference while Im continuing to learn!!! Im so impressed with everyones input and comments I receive that offer amazing insight to Footy!! This amount of info may have taken me awhile to figure out on my own. I can feel the strong love you all have for your sport!! Diehard fans like yourself that are helpful to rookies like me demonstrates the passion that you all have and makes me want to dive in all the more!! Im a diehard fan myself when it pertains to my American New York teams(Yankees,Rangers,Jets,Knicks) and am always helpful to those that want to learn as well!! Again, thank you for taking time out and delivering this detailed comment Clinton!! Much respect to you!! #BasementMentality
@@johnnybasement430 Nice! I'm an Angels man myself. It's great to see a team squander the talents of the 2 best players on Earth, year after year. Lol
Who knows, we may win 80 games next year!
@@clintonsmith9178 LMFAO!!!! You are correct!!! Ill add on for a minute...Yes the Angels are definitely NOT taking advantage of Ohtani AND Trout BUT how bout when they had Pujols and Maddon as Manager?? How can a team with all that talent AND a World Series winning manager in Maddon not ever make the playoffs??!! Its mind blowing for sure. Trust me I get it!! Im a 4 decades NY Jets fan AND they are the Kings of FALSE HOPES AND DREAMS FOREVER!!! Although the Jets look strong at 6-4 right now, us diehards are just waiting for the boom to drop!!! The Jets have been a dumpster fire for most of my life BUT I love em and thats what team loyalty is all about!! LOL!! Thanks for all of your comments and support of my channnel Clinton!! #BasementMentality
Mason’s story feels like a foil to that of Jordan Mailata heading in the opposite direction.
Being a great athlete and having commitment > having played the game since you were a kid.
Probably you’ve had time to find these answers but: if the ball has been kicked over 10m and caught, it’s a “mark” so you get a moment to settle yourself and kick it without the opposition tackling you. You get longer if you’re taking a shot - usually within 50m.
The 6 points are a kick (has to be kicked) between the two centre posts. If you hit a post or go between the outside and inside posts, you get a point (a “behind”)
A ruckman is the tall bloke who jumps for the ball and tips it towards his players.
A contested mark is just where you’re jumping up for the ball at the same time as an opposition player.
Finally, mate, we have another game. NRL. This one is “rugby league” and a different, fast paced game to rugby with far, far more in common with NFL.
We recently had Todd Gurley over here posing for pictures with Nathan Cleary, the Mahommes of the sport. Get into some NRL if you get a chance mate.
Loved your reaction. I've followed Mason's progress since the day that Collingwood recruited him. it's an incredible story and he has had his ups and downs since THAT incredible game, including nearly losing his sight due to injuries sustained while playing.
The initial goal scored on Anzac day was scored after he "marked' the ball. A player can take an unimpeded kick from the place where he marked the ball. There are only what you call field goals in the game. The only way to score 6 points is to kick the ball through the two large upright posts. A player who has the ability to regularly mark the ball within scoring distance is highly valued.
GDAY J.B….MATE…when a player kicks his first goal…in the AFL…it is tradition for all his teammates to congratulate him…thats why after the kick ..his mates all come up en masse and gave him conrgrats,……and yes mate…no free lunch in AFL….EVERYBODY HAS TO EARN HIS SPOT ON THE TEAM…CONSISTENTLY…SO.forget the comments…just know…..HE EARNT HIS SPOT…ELSE HE WOULDNT BE ONFIELD..
You have to remember Australian kids grow up playing this sport and he had never herd of it. It is very complex and Aussie fans didn't think he would do well as his first games did not go well. And I think they were a jealous as well.
The Collingwood Magpies lost the 2018 Grand Final (our Superbowl) the following week. Jason Holmes played for the St Kilda Saints for 5 games. The VFL is the current reserves comp. As for learning more about Aussie Rules Footy, Google the USAFL (United States Australia Football League to find your closest team! They're more equipped to answer all of your questions about Footy much more quickly!! Mason's accent has watered down quite a bit, and he has become an Australian Citizen.
A mark is when you catch the ball off a kick. It allows you to stop and have free play. A contested one is a catch with a player pressuring you (ie not wide open)
At the start he caught the ball (mark) off a kick he was allowed to have 30 seconds to kick for goal.
Goals are worth the same if theyre kicked from a mark or in free play.
one of the most interesting facts about mason cox is he felt so embarrassed that when he was teaching young kids how to play football some of the kids had been playing more than he had FACT
A contested mark is a mark taken in a pack or against an opponent. An uncontested mark is a mark taken when you are on your own no opposition player trying to spoil the mark.
He won title 2023.
Fantastic story
Mason is the first American to play a senior game of AFL there was another but he never played a senior game he played in the VFL which is the reserves or second team it is a step below the AFL.
Because he marked the ball (caught the ball on the full from another player's kick) he gets to go back and take the kick for goal.
As mentioned, each State had its own league ... the VFL being the Victorian Football League. In the early 90s, the VFL expanded into Rugby territory (New South Wales) by moving the South Melbourne club north and renaming them Sydney. They then changed the name to the AFL and have since built a national game with clubs representing most States. The State comps continue and support development for players on their way to the AFL or for those our of form or on the fringe etc. It's probably like the minor league teams in baseball to a point. It was not expected that he would adapt as quickly as he did. For the Aussie kids who grow up playing this, giving Mason this opportunity seemed kind of unfair I guess. There were haters and supporters but here, they tend to show the negative side. Plus he plays for the Magpies, the team everyone loves to hate so that was also a factor. Kicking the ball through the centre is a goal ... 6 points but either side is a point. If it comes off hands or the opposition and goes through the centre it is also a point. When you take a mark (a clean catch from a kick that has travelled at least 15 metres) you can stop and take a kick unimpeded or play on. Here he chose to take his free kick and kicked a goal ... it was ANZAC day - (Australian and New Zealand Army Corp) - so kind of funny for an American to kick the first goal. The ruckman is the tall guy that goes up for the ball when the umpire bounces it or throws it in from the boundary. Have you watched "What is AFL"? It answers a few of these questions ... (and fuels lots more) LOL! There are also some great marking compilations and goal kicking montages out there as well as individual highlights. Enjoy the journey.
Thank you for taking the time for this informative comment!!! So many of you Footy enthusiasts have demonstrated your passion for your sport with such detail in the comments! I will utilize alot of what you told me and further educate myself as I dive further into this sport!! So appreciate the comments Carmel!! #BasementMentality
VFL at the famous old Collingwood ground, Victoria Park.
I lived in the States for a couple of years, I lose my Aussie accent at all. My Hubby is from N.Y.C he still has his Yankee accent after 21 yrs here in Aus. I have been a Collingwood supporter all my life. other supporters hate Collingwood, do we care? not at all.They hated Coxy in the beginning, now they wave "Old Glory" at the games. We love you Coxy!!!
Mason got a free kick after he marked the ball. A mark is when a player catches the ball that was kicked over 15 metres without anyone else touching it. He kicked the ball between the two middle goalposts for a 'goal' which is worth six points. A contested mark is when two or more players jump for the ball, and one player gets a clean grab. The first player from North America to play in the AFL was a Canadian born Australian. There are a lot of Irish men and women who regularly play in the AFL.
No ones picking on him now as he is a Collingwood great and he is a 2023 premiership player...and no one can take that away from him. Go Pies Paul from Melbourne
Now he is a premiership player because he played in the winning team this year like your super Ball
A mark in AFL is awarded when the receiving player catches the ball on the full from another player who has kicked that ball at least fifteen metres. A contested mark is when at least one other (opposition) player has also attempted to catch or punch away that ball in the air. Most marks in AFL will be contested marks due to the quality of the players and their high fitness levels. When awarded a mark the referee blows his whistle to indicate it so, and the player must then immediately play on or else play stops as the player lines up behind the point or line where the mark was made to make a free kick. For a free kick an opposition player stands on the mark or point where the mark was made and all other (opposition) players must be at least ten metres (I think) away from the player (kicker) until he either kicks the ball or moves off his line to the mark. Recent rules also only give the kicker thirty seconds to kick the ball before the free kick is no longer valid and normal play resumes.
If a player kicks the ball through the two middle post's it is a goal a goal is worth 6 points if the ball goes through between the big post and the small outside post it is a behind and is worth 1 point.
A ruckman is the player that contests the center bounce and the throw in from the boundary and is usually the biggest player on the team.
Yes you can call it footy
You should watch 'What is AFL' - simplified explanation on the game - we are passionate down here about it
I'm.happy Mason stuck it up the commentator this is the biggest game mason won't get a kick in well he was best on ground ...
You’re accent would totally change if you were in Australia- happens to everyone 😊
it is the real footy mate
@Johnny Basement Mason Cox and his team the Magpies/Collingwood just won the Australian GRAND FINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD OLD COLLINGWOOD FOREVER, WE KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME!!!!
VFL is the 2nd teir level for the AFL in the State of Victoria.
If you watch the two introductory videos a lot of your questions will be answered.
He cops some shit, but I think for someone who did not grow up with it he does quite alright.
Was that Luke hodge who bagged him v rich he won't get a kick....best on ground
Goal
Is worth 6 points
😂😂 you say Aussie like Ozzy 😂❤🇦🇺🙋.... For a laugh check out Warrick Capper ❤ the swannies ❤
Don't stop the video early... Watch until the end 😡
They booo d him at the premiership. I love him
I always think your accent changes when you have to use words that are common in the new country - you say them how you are learning them so the accent creeps in
Cox has been here for 5yrs and working and living with Aussies it's easy to lose your accent
The rugby players that have tried out have only lasted 1 season before returning to rugby.....
They didn't mention Masons best skill , trash talking. LOL A contested mark is where you take a mark over an opponent , rather than out in the field by yourself . When you take a mark you have the option of going back and taking your kick or playing on . If you are mid field and wanting to move the ball quickly and your opponent isnt in a position to stop you then playing on is the best option . If you are within goal shooting range then you are best off to go back and take your time kicking the goal. One aspect you may not be aware of is that the man on the mark , the position on the ground the opposition player has to stand on according to the umpire , has the opportunity to try and put you off . Imagine having a free throw and there is some guy there jumping around and talking to you trying to put you off. They let you know if you missed to. LOL
❤🇦🇺🙋💯🔥
Screw the haters he proved if your willing to put in the hard work you can do anything you want
My man...type on utube AFL RULES..the next is AFL 50 GREATEST marks..ya goofy m8te from Australia..I will subscribe when you are very up to speed with the tuffest ball game on the planet n won of the oldest. 150 years..older then ya throw ball.lol ya goofy m8te from Australia
Watch the whole vid next time…
Why do want comparisons. AUSTRALIAN RULES FOOTBALL OR AFL
It's just that.
he's been in Australia for 6 years so aussie lingo will rub of on him.........VFL is Victoria Football league....what he did first mark first GOAL the Ultimate.....the Irish that come over get same treatment
Mason will naturally lose some of his accent and became Naturalised Australian
Sorry to say Mason Cox isnt very good. Only his height that gets him a game.
Yeah... right. Lol.
Lemon 🍋
You just hate because he plays for the magpies...
Mason is actually a breath under 7ft tall