Should You Upgrade!? Gerber Strongarm BDZ1
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I am turning off the notification feature for your channel! You are making me go broke!!!!!
Joking!!!!
Truth.....looks like some OT this week for the Gerber! Glad I got the Vigor first as I was looking at the 420 version next anyways. Thanks Aaron!
Yeah, every time I watch a video here I'm spending money on another knife I don't need.
True I now have a rat7 a prodigy a strongarm and esse6 and bk9 because I watched them here would like to see a good combat machete I'm trying to find one like I had of my great grandfather from ww2 he was a marine anyway somebody stole it from my truck would like to see one someday
Aaron you sold me a while back on the original Strongarm with the 420HC. The fact you liked it so much and your review including the gauntlet videos sold me so I bought one. What little I've used it before the extreme cold weather hit here, I've been very happy with it. Money is tight so I think I'll keep what I have for a while. Thanks for the review in case I change my mind. God Bless
I would definitely buy a s30v version of the strongarm for about 80 bucks or a little more
Great Review as always. Ill stick with my original strongarm of which you helped sale me on. God Bless
i kew this was a great blade 1 hour after i bought it but i find it amazing that this blade kind of has a cult following lol :P its great
It"s look almost like Mora Garberg. Maby a little comparison? Sheath function, price and steel are similar - what You think?
I can give it to you right here, if you are looking for a pure woods blade the Mora is the way to go. But if you want a jack of all trades go with the Gerber. :)
Looks great. Always loved this design. The only thing I don't like about it is how far away the start of the edge is from the plunge grind. Easily fixed, though
Yes , its definitely a winning design, I have the 420HC version and love it , I don't see the BDZ-1 steel as an "upgrade" because I doubt its as "tough" as the 420HC and that's what I really like about the Strong Arm . I would love to see you send it through the Gauntlet and see what its really made of ... That being said , if it did come out in S30V or something similar, I would be all over it and I'm sure alot of other people would to , as long as Gerber doesn't want $150.00 for it . Thanks for the input , good video .
S30V is not exactly a tough steel.
That's not an upgrade either in toughness either..
Nice for pocket knives that have to slice cardboard often.
BDZ1 is tough corrosion resistant tool steel. In my experience I would give it a slight edge on 420HC when it comes to toughness. BDZ1 is a straight upgrade in pretty much every regard other than price and how easy it is to sharpen. BDZ1 is by no means difficult to sharpen, but it is a harder steel with considerably better edge retention which always comes at the price of being a bit harder to sharpen initially.
BDZ1 takes and holds a very nice edge and you can get it wicked sharp, but it's not the sort of steel you can get away with sharpening on a river rock etc. which you can do if you have to with 420HC. In all honesty you really should just bring a small sharpening rod or stone with you if you are planning to go on month long bushcrafting outings into the backcountry regardless of what knife you plan to bring. You can find ones weighing less than two ounces.
I just bought me one I already had the black one and the coyote brown there good knives. If you didn’t say they only made 2,000 of them I wouldn’t have bought it.
Great video sir, I picked one of these up and I really like it as well. I've had a Strongarm with serrations for a long time and I just happened to be looking to buy one without just before this limited run was released, so I went ahead and pre-ordered. As you said not such a huge improvement over the original that I would run out and buy one as a replacement, but for somebody who's maybe been on the fence about getting one this is a great way to go.
Thanks, glad you got one.
Serrated version. What’s everyone’s problem with it? I like mine.
Looks like a good budget blade. Might have to look at this more.
Good video. I love my blades of cts bd1. Not many knives in bdz1. I know Kershaw has a blur in bdz1. And there are edge retention test on bd1 that put is closer to 154CM. I'll have to pick up this blade and test it out myself in review. Keep up the good work
Moose's Gear Goo Review I think cold steel uses it in some knives now
I really hope Gerber continues with this trend. I was very happy with the plain edge drop point edict, very pleased with the plain edge Auto propel, now they add this I'm extremely happy. I would love to see more options like this. I'd also love to a plain edge assisted open propel. And maybe an eventually a drop point option. Great video Aaron!
Yeah I’ll just keep my original Strongarm. Thank you for the review on the new version.
Thanks again Aaron, for the objective info! I Love my SA in 420hc. Holding out for an S30V version. Keep up the good work & be well. Cheers!
All of the bdz1's are out of stock now, idk why it was a limited run bc they couldve made so much more money???
Vance Booth, They only made 2,000 of them and 3,000 Ghost Strikes in bdz1...
Yep, I sit here and strop my Strongarm black as I watch you confirm once again the validity of my purchase. After having seen some of the Gauntlet run with your black. Seven years ago it began in your hands and on to Prepared101 where he concurred, so after those two trips I was convinced and pulled the trigger. Keep it up on your end and I'll keep stropping the black on mine as I wait for the coyote Strongarm to get here soon. Great minds think alike. 🙂👍
Gerber has been stepping up there game lately. Starting to see more USA made products and none of the gimmicky stuff you saw before. Would love to see a higher end s30v version. Bought the gator premium and is one of my favorite knives for camping.
Once again, great video. The Strongarm has definitely been a popular seller, and it has everything to do with your review and recommendations. I do like the finish better on this new version of the strongarm.
Just got mine today, and I love it! I'm going to most likely get the 420hc version as well 🖒🖒
I knew it was a limited run, so bought one. My 420 HC version was already my favorite general purpose belt knife. The ONLY problem with this BDZ1 version is they lost the 90 degree angle on the spine, because of the "stone wash" finish process. I fixed that with some very cautious file work. It works for striking sparks on a fire steel fine now. I really like the finish. It looks like a knife should look, but that's just my preference. I'm tired of military/tactical looking gear. IMO, this knife is a beast, and worth twice what it costs. This is a great addition to your equipment. I'd buy it all over again and if they come out with another upgraded version I'll probably buy one of them too.
I don't yet have a strong arm but I've been keeping an eye on this little honey, when I noticed you made a video on it I crapped my pants and this is the one I'm going to get 😊
Another well thought practical video. Aiming to help us like buyers and users, to make the right call.
Thanks, From CHILE 🇨🇱 South América 😎👍🏻
I recently bought the Gerber Strongarm BDZ1 on back order and it was delivered quickly. I am not sure how long they will remain available. The only issue I have heard other mention is that the stonewash makes using a fire steel tough, due to the lack of a sharp 90 degree back. If needed, I could add a 90 back on my Work Sharp blade grinder. For those more tactically minded, they may prefer a coated blade.
they screwed up not numbering them if it really was a 2,000 knife run / a one of makes it hold it;s value,with no number whos gonna believe ya 10 yrs from now
I understand the 420hc is great against rust. how does this BDZ1 compare in that regard?
Alright I did it, I picked one of these up with the new ghost strike.
Love my strong arm. Gonna pass on the bdz but if they produce one in a “super steel” I will have to buy it.
Super popular model + limited run though. This BDZ version will sell out fast and increase in value imo.
Thank you for your presentation you did a great job in presenting his knife I subscribe to your Channel thank you again from Atlanta Georgia
I like it but would like it more if they had put a black finish on the blade as I'm sure those in the military would also.
Jeff Sherrod I agree.
Not a gerber fan but this product seems pretty cool 😎
I purchased a strongarm 420hc, cool design but this steel... Pure shit...
Just order this knife after watching the review....I used your Amazon link.
Harley thank you so much!!!
Are there any data or tests on how brittle is BDZ1 compared to 420HC steel to steel ? Or, two steels in the same knife, especially in low temperatures. I can't find anything by Googling or on TH-cam. Thank you.
You should review the Bark River Bravo 1 I would love to know what you think of it
Ok.. I have strongarm and Gerber principle. that's my go to outdoors combo. Love USA made Gerber products!
Almost got one before but I really prefer uncoated stainless blades. Thanks for the vid. I just put my order in!
Just ordered the 420 HC strongarm. I hope it performs great. Thanks for the reviews and the reintroduction of gerber as a solid company.
You must be a big fan of this knife. The change of blade steel merited it's own review.
When's the s30v version coming out! That would be nice huh
Josh Johnson or a 1095CroVan or 80CrV2 version!😍
Tomas Sandberg hell yes! I'd be more interested in those two than s30v!
@@joshjohnson5307,I agree with a 1095hc alloy (like TOPS and kabar) would be great for me.
personally wanna see cpm 3v...s30v is not a strong steel seen multiple tip breaks and edge rolls with basic use
God yes please give us an S30V Strongarm Please!!!! #gerbergear #gerberstrongarm
On the topic of a completely different knife has anyone noticed you can't find the Becker bk9 anywhere? Does anybody know what's going on with that knife?
Ordered mine like you and waited. Happy with it. Another nice video.
I already was planning on getting a strong arm and when this one came out, I didn't have enough money to buy it, but my parents end up buying me the last one in stock on Amazon for Christmas
The way it just sails thru the thick plastic ribbing. . . wow!
Can’t find it, must be sold out everywhere
Ya limited run
I want the BDZ1 version because it's supposed to have even better corrosion resistance, which I need for salt water usage.
My 420HC is in my tackle box all time time and it hasn't shown any evidence of corrosion.... and I've had it for 2 years, but having said that, the upgrade would be just that little higher on the "peace -of-mind" scale!
That's good to know, Luke. Are you fresh water fishing or open ocean, because the latter is my concern.
+Charles Collier I live on the Great Barrier Reef in Queensland. After using it I thoroughly clean it and oil the blade before putting it away. I'm not rough with it though and I believe that the coating, once it wears down, would not protect it as much but it really depends what you use it for. I use it mainly for chopping up bait and bleeding out fish....
That's very helpful; thank you!
That was some great information. Many people criticize Gerber for making some not so great knives now days. Gerber does make some lower end mass market stuff but they still produce some good knives. I grew up sighs some great Gerbers like the BMF, Mark II, LMF, Parabellum, TAC II, and so on. I still have most of them. It’s great to know that the old Gerber is still around there in Portland. Thanks as usual for your work and channel. I appreciate it.John
In my country, all fake Chinese goods are sold. Can you buy me this genuine knife. i'm in vietnam.thank you
No sharp spine is a no go for me. I love my 420hc Strong-arm, it starts fires like a boss!
Hey GD. Looking to pick up a belt knife and can’t decide between the strong arm and the jaros turok. If you had to choose one. What would you choose?
michael Cariello these are in that tactical/survival arena, the Turok can do more because of its size.
Im a bit puzzled that out of three reviewers so far not one of you noticed that the BDZ1 version has a thinner wall on the saber grind portion of the blade. Ive used their Prodigy and Strongarm for a couple years now and when I got this new BDZ1 I instantly felt a differance . It has a much better angle making it an awesome slicer feather sticks like a dream....I would be very interested to see what Chris at PM101 might say after using this new one? He told me in a post that the reason the knife just felt odd in his review was that the saber wall was to thick esp on the shoulder of the bevel. Most of us that own and use the Strongarm alot instantly gave it a different grind by convexing the edge and thining it down. This bdz1 is pretty much set out of box, all it needs is a simple fine tuning by slightly convexing the V edge. I LOVE THIS ONE AND HIGHLY RECOMMEND BUYING.
I think you are 100% correct in the opinion GERBER would be better off (as well as the consumer) giving the option for a SUPERIOR STEEL as a choice and see what that market brings to the table... that way perhaps they can calculate the value of the cost of the steel and heat treat per potential buyer. I personally LOVE my GERBER STRONGARM and have bought it as a few gift for a few friends and family (who I care very much about and want them to have a tool that will excel in a SHTF situation) primarily on it's ERGO's and TOUGHNESS. I have many knives, like most of your subscribers I imagine. The GERBER STRONGARM has some of the BEST ERGO's of any knife I own. That is my primary reason for buying it for people who don't necessarily realize the importance of a cutting tool because I feel they will have a better chance at achieving any cutting task based on it's comfort. If GERBER had a Strongarm in: 3V, S35VN, Elmax, or AEB-L I would buy 1 for everyone in my family and recommend them for ANYONE interested in purchasing a knife..... Hopefully GERBER follows this channel and is interested in an automatic 5 knives+ being bought from 1 consumer......
I feel like someone should make a tally of every time he mentions his large size hands or how he wears large size gloves
Every video bro! lol
He could be making a video about hiking boots and mention it at least once!
Lol I was gonna make the same comment... awesome
Drinking Game
Bet it makes his penis look funny small
I'd love to see a Strongarm in coyote tan with a black coated 1095 blade rockwelled arond 59-60 and a kydex sheath similar to the one on the Esee Junglas
Great review as always, Aaron!
Happy New Year!
Wait wait wait. Hang on. Is this an actual good Gerber knife? Now what do we do, knife guys are not supposed to buy Gerber. Well I guess we can still knock Schrade...
Double edge spar point version plz GB.
I typed strongarm BDZ1 on Gerber knives website and it said no such thing, nothing found. Kinda like damn, WTH..???
It was discontinued years ago. I have come to find that all the coolest knives that ever existed get discontinued in like 2 seconds. 😂
Gerber Strongarm or Tops Bob?
Can only have one.
Been looking at the Strongarm or Prodigy in serrated past few days but I don't see a serrated version of the BDZ1??
Also upon your recommendation I ordered the Worksharp Field Sharpener for a Christmas gift from my wife. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving.
Just received mine in today. I noticed the BDZ1 version doesn't have a sharp spine vs the 420HC version. Ten minutes is all it took to sharpen the spine using a diamond sharpener and now it strikes a ferro rod well. I also got really lucky when I bought this off Amazon, they had a "used" one for $55 only because the packaging was damaged. knife looked brand new when I pulled it out, $4 more than the standard version, I'll take it all day long, lol. It was also shaving sharp. I can't wait to get out and thrash on this thing and see for myself how it compares to the original version. I also prefer the satin or stone wash finish vs the black coating. I think it be awesome if Gerber made another version of this knife with a 5 1/2-6" blade. It be the perfect blade imo, but I'm very satisfied with current Strongarm.
I’ll pass on this one since I have the original. One knife I have been eyeballing is the Gerber Gator Premium fixed blade knife CPM-S30V. I‘m hopping you have a review planned for the gator premium ... I’ve not seen a review on the premium yet in English lol.
You should do some machete reviews
Just recieved my strong arm. I saw yur video a few days ago and with there only being 2000 bdz i had to have it. Its just beautiful and feels excellent in my hand. Again, thanks G.T. for the excellent reviews on yur channel. B The knife Nut.
Hi Gideon. I was wondering how you would compare the Gerber Strongarm and the Mora Garberg? Is the Mora Garberg worth the extra $40. I recognize that they are meant for different set of tasks, but as a general purpose survival knife.
I'd like to see a prodigy tanto reveiw
Now I'm even more conflicted! This or the TOPS BOB?!?!?!?!???????
What's the difference between bd1 and bd1z steel?
I bought a 420 hc StrongArm a few days ago and am happy with it. It was $54.00 plus tax. I've never seen a BDZ1 model offered for sale locally. Thanks for your video reviews, Aaron.
Sorry for the late comment. I've been wanting to buy a Gerber strongarm for my brother. He lives in San Diego, California. Is the strongarm legal in California?
How do you improve on a almost indestructible knife? Maybe better edge retention. I still have no complaints with my Strongarm.
If you have a good basic design then you will sell billion and all you have to do is keep upgrading the steel as technology improves. I have a fabulous knife that I chipped on the most surprising thing. Namely the gizzard of a pheasant. The knife was lazering its way through the carcass until it hit the grit the birds ingest to help the crop grind the seeds
That knife has been available on Amazon for about 2-3 weeks already. I was surprised that none of you guys that make video reviews had a sample. The problem for me right now is that the prices are all over the place on the Strongarm, but for a fair price I would buy one except that I might hesitate due to it being a limited production run model. And then for $50 plus, I don't want it to sit in a drawer either. :)
Love your channel. My knife uses are similar to yours. What angle are you sharpening the BDZ1 Strongarm? Do you feel it will be as tough/chip resistant as the 420HC?
You have to show spine sharpness! A sharp spine is a factor for ferro rods and tinder.
Jordan Lammers
The spine isn't sharp. it will not throw sparks off a ferro rod like the 420HC version. However after ten minutes using a diamond sharpener, the spine is sharp and throws sparks off a ferro rod with ease. Still worth the upgrade imo.
Gideonstactical do you only yous the work sharp everywhere or do yous something diffrent at home ??
survival bushcraft Tas I have the larger version for the home.
gideonstactical an what is thst version called ?
The original is great. May have to try one of the new ones.
If your knife is starting to dull after 10 or 15 cuts through cordage, it's a piece of shit.
D BT it was an example, I wasn’t saying that’s actually what was happening.
Would you pick this over either of the 1095 or stainless Tops BOBs? Thanks for your input.
I'm concerned that if Gerber upgrades the steel too much, the price increase will negate the value play this knife excels at being.
Very nice. I was a little late to the StrongArm party, but I did eventually get one a couple weeks ago. And I knew, from watching videos on it, it was a performer, but man, it still blew my expectations out of the water. I love it. I'd like to try and snag one for these versions pretty soon, just because I like the non-coated look.
Gideon i will pay u any amout of money for that knife i cant find it anywhere im a traveler and im always in wet conditions and i love the gerber strong arm but i love thid version so much more even the grey handle is there any way youd be willing to sell it? Its such a sick knife
Handsome gerber knife
I have a question I lost mine Gerber strong arm sheath, is there anywhere I could buy just the sheath? Hope you had a good holiday keep making cool videos I really enjoy your videos :)
Brody ******** that sucks, I would email Gerber and ask them.
Submit a warranty request at gerbergear.com/warranty and the team will help.
Gerber Gear
Nice to see Gerber cares about their consumers, that says a lot about a company!
I've read somewhere the BDZ-1 no longer has the 90 degree spine. Is that true?
Do you ever use a strop, or just a sharpener?
I hope I am not alone when I say the clanging of the logo is too loud compared to the rest of the video, and incredibly sharp.
Nice video and blade, though, so thanks.
BDZ1 looks slightly more stout. That could just be from the tuning you did on the 420HC though.
2:50 very giiiid
bdz1 came out with the bd-1.
The bdz1 looks much better on paper, but nobody uses it...
seems to cut a lot better then the srk...
Now that looks better! Smart looking blade. And thanks for showing
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I’d be buying a couple in s30v at $100 if they go there
Ordered mine a little before Christmas and got it last week. It needed a touchup to be nice and sharp.
Glad you know what all that bd1z steel stuff means. All I know is I love my strong arm, so when I saw limited run, I bought it. Mine is still new in the box on the shelf.
Like the dog!
the need to put out a version in either s30v or s35vn in the tactical grey, pretty sure everyone would like that