I believe there's a blue that lets Miriam summon copies of herself, if you max it out, you can have 4 Miriams fire at the same time for the price of 1 bullet
JupiterClimb: "Summon chair is not gun themed." Dr. Loveless: "The shotguns in my wheelchair arms disagree." Mendoza: "My wheelchair is half tank, it even has treads." Spaghetti Westerns: "You know how many men have been gunned down by a man in a chair?"
Why bloodstained didn't pull the Bloodborne move and let you carry a gun while also having a regular weapon is so incredibly beyond me. It'd make them sooo much more useful in the early and mid game
So glad you are trying this, I have been trying to make guns work in this game for so long and it’s always a struggle until you find the infinite ammo hat.
Speaking from experience here If you minmax everything to increase ATK, have recycler hat, diamond bullets, and the book familiar, guns get absolutely insane. I remember from an earlier version that you can get to 999 ATK with guns (when you couldnt master rapid fire), even the double consumption hat gets ridiculous for damage numbers, tho its not efficient
I don't think I ever used guns in this game until I got the recycle hat. the ammunition mechanic looked tedious. When you've got everything set up though, the damage output is ridiculous.
Early game you don't have decent ammo capacity, good gun options, or ammo types available to really go gun only (even mana can be an issue for rapid fire until higher levels or gebel glasses come into play) Randos? Capacity is still an issue but it mostly leans on having access to later guns and ammo types early
I believe Guns only truly scale off stats if you have real ammo loaded, elsewise you get near base damage as I think Infinite Ammo has an atrocious scaler rate, 0.1x STR I think, it definitely does scale, your damage does slowly go up across the run as you level up, but its bad
with regards to recycle hat in the Randomizer. It's there but it's SUPER weighted to the point where it really only ends up showing crafting/quests even somewhat reliably.. and even then, it could be gated by something stupid like needing to make it using 99 Dark matters+The Full valkyrie set, breaking down a item that needs 10+ alkahest and the shop doesn't sell alkahest AT ALL/You can't craft alkahest OR It's locked behind the other two quest givers and it's farther down thier chains. It's Basically the Chaos Ring in the Aria/Dawn Randomizers with a slightly better chance that you MIGHT get to see it.
As soon as you dismissed Gebel's Glasses I was like "wait, no! the rapid fire! it can be done with the blunderbuss!" It's a good thing I checked other comments to see if you ended up using it later in the video.
According to Wikipedia, "A cannon is a large-caliber gun classified as a type of artillery, which usually launches a projectile using explosive chemical propellant."
There’s a fun glitch with Ordog that happened near the end, I’ve had the same happen. You shoot him with true arrow, he gets hit, and then he lays back down and goes to sleep. Silly dog
A cannon is a gun, that is why there is a term called Hand Cannon. Cannons and guys use the same principle. Gun powder, barrel and fire a projectile. through an explosion of the ignition of the powder.
I personally LOVED guns, and used the homing gun, either with scattershot, or some other ammo[memory sucks so remembering which one sucks] It's honestly the best gun imo, due to good damage, AND having innate homing
I like guns. They can come in clutch with different ammo types. The low damage numbers can be deceiving. I literally killed OD with Diamond rounds like he was nothing after losing the fight 3 times normally. Just decided I was gonna hold down Healing (maxed 9/9), directional shield (9/9) with Words of wisdom at 9/9 with the skill shard and ability shard active. So even when not wearing Gebels Glasses, I have near infinite ammo with my regen rate on top of that. But popped the shield when he attacked and shot when we didn’t. I think the fight lasted 1:30. Obviously he was my last shard for the glasses, but yeah the guns are even good late game and harder difficulties once your stats are buffed from food and such. Early game, definitely trash mostly due to the lack of available ammos. Like they work, but not the best. I feel like they’re better after NG+. Also, quick tip. Find rooms with breakable lanters and they typically drop a good amount of gold. That room you went through at the castle entrance with the 4 statues drops mostly 50,100, and 500 gold per statue. Went back and forth a few tikes and already had 5k gold. Plunderers rings help too. I found with one to 2 equipped, it gives you larger quantities of gold/money way more often than not. You can also activate Welcome Party on top of the train where the cars connect, you can stand there and go back and forth and make between 7k-11k gold per ride then hop back on the other direction and do it both ways. Semi AFK gold farm. Also, focus on ATK for guns. For me, that seemed to matter with those. The numbers were almost identical stats wise and in game damage. Btw, not saying I’m 100% right, just what I noticed in my 80ish hours playing and messing around. I think their thing is if you’re going to use guns, they have their own skill ceiling and play style. To offset you being able to keep your distance they probably reduce damage to and make you focus on making each shot count. Basically lower damage, higher skill requirement.
From what I remember, guns being usable at all hinges on that stupid infinite ammo hat, because the damage falloff is extreme. Lots of potential for a gun-mod though. Directional aiming with something like dual revolvers would be pretty neat.
Bullets have their own set strength unless it's infinite, in which case it gets a dramatic decrease in strength scaling from what I know. It's a way to balance it iirc
I've totally gotten the recycling hat in rando mode before, but it does seem to be rarer than gebil's glasses. and on a gun run I bet it wouldn't show up easily/at all cause RNG, it can be anywhere, including locked deep in the clothes/food questlines, food is hard to finish, clothes...I've tried, I've literally never managed to finish it in rando. maybe on a god seed (or if you just don't shuffle shops or alch...but where's the fun in that?) also, unless they changed this in an update, which I doubt, the shop updates twice, once AFTER the first Samurai Guy fight (forgot his name) and again once you reach the area that's past the train ride, the lab place
I will say god bless the fact that once you get the Recycler Hat for doing all of Susie's quests, which you will because it's Susie. Because that, maxed out Renee's Requiem, diamond ammo and all the attack and gun buffing stuff you can stack is mad busted. Too bad I only got that mad busted stuff uh, five rooms from the final boss. And I can't even use it for grinding souls and mats because the luck stuff is more important for that. As an aside, fuck Haagenti. 1:20:10 How you gonna do my Shard Teps Oceus like that?
At this point I'm sure Agartha is the only gun to be actually useful in any Igavania ever. Edit: 44:19 Never mind, that thing has become fricking Agartha now (that still depended on you getting Gebel's Glasses though). Edit 2: And never mind again; guns fell off so hard without a sustainable source of ammo. Can't believe Dimension Shif of all things killed this run though.
guns do scale on str infinite ammo doesn't. infi ammo is meant as a punishment for not being good at ammo conservation. also glasses should be allowed for infinite rapid fire spam
Well I'm confused. I'm seeing lots of parts of the ship that I don't remember being present in my playthrough. Is my memory just bad? For example, the room where you push a box. And the room where there's a hole in the wall with a huge monster firing projectiles at you from the background.
I understand the complaints about guns being underpowered, but i also understand why they are. Aren’t many other weapons that allow you to shoot across the screen and steps require magic. You can also get decent dps out of guns using special ammo so it feels balanced enough. I definitely don’t think it would hurt to give them a bit of a boost to make them more desirable, but they’re not complete garbage.
What do you mean, Va Ischa isn't gun themed? It's clearly the shard version of Chill Penguin's "Shotgun Ice!" :) Seriously, I love watching your randomizers while I do physical therapy exercises. Nice company, just distracting enough.
Please strongly consider checking out the World Tour mode in Street Fighter 6 using Modern Controls. You get a character creator, genuinely loose track of time from fun playing, and covertly teaches you the mechanics of not just SF6, but all fighting games. I'm currently 40 hours into World Tour mode, which is all single player offline content. If you don't see yourself as a fighting game player, but like fighting games, I cannot recommend this approach strongly enough. Base edition is easily worth srp
Bro, i was wayching your randomizers, decided to start one of my own and noticed something. Idk if you seen this, but on the ship. The first time you get on deck fucking Zangetso is rowing a boat like a mad man in the background 😂😂 at first i thought it was that creature you see in the window of the train, but nope, its old mate rowing for dear life 😂😂
Whips were such a letdown in this game. I don't know who chose to give them such a weird hitbox... Not to mention the sound effect. It's nitpicking at this point but many weapon sound effects are disappointing
@@wallacesousuke1433 l1 baixo l1 baixo sem errar nenhuma vez..igual povo fica fazendo com alucard...e olha q jogo video game desde 1986...ficar esquivando e cortando no minimo uma vez erra..quando coloca no turbo ai nao erra...isso q estou falando...
@@rodrygosilva1548 interessante.. Eu não posso dizer se é turbo ou não, mas considerando que não é tão difícil assim cancelar a animação do backdash nesse jogo, fora os anos de prática que ele tem, fico no muro rs
@@wallacesousuke1433 pra que vcs fala esses nomes horriveis backdash? é apenas uma esquiva pra tras...simples,nao tem nada de backdash é esquivaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@@wallacesousuke1433 anos de pratica ??o que esse cara tem de idade é o tempo q de chupada q as mulher mi deu ali pra baixo...jogo com alucard tem só 37 anos..sei muito bem o que é umautomatico...jogo kof 2002 todos os dias online...treino desde quando o jogo saiu e mesmo assim a gente erra mesmo sabendo o tempo e tudo mais
I believe there's a blue that lets Miriam summon copies of herself, if you max it out, you can have 4 Miriams fire at the same time for the price of 1 bullet
That shit b scaling down b
JupiterClimb: "Summon chair is not gun themed."
Dr. Loveless: "The shotguns in my wheelchair arms disagree."
Mendoza: "My wheelchair is half tank, it even has treads."
Spaghetti Westerns: "You know how many men have been gunned down by a man in a chair?"
That one wheelchair enemy in Bloodborne: *unloads his gatling gun*
For her neutral special, she wields a GUN
"Summon chair is not gun-themed"
Okay, asking for the wrestling randomizer run.
If there's one thing SMT and EO have taught me, it's that Gun is the best element, and sometimes it's also EVERY element.
The Eye of Horus is a sleeper BIS for gun builds, since it gives you bigger sight range.
If you change the blood color, it changes the color of Bloodless' dress and of the umbrella weapon you can get.
Why bloodstained didn't pull the Bloodborne move and let you carry a gun while also having a regular weapon is so incredibly beyond me. It'd make them sooo much more useful in the early and mid game
Thank Aria/Dawn of Sorrow for that
Cause they ran out of buttons
@@hundvd_7considering symphony of the night allowed you all those years ago to wield two gear pieces...
The devs actually did that, they're called directional shards
So glad you are trying this, I have been trying to make guns work in this game for so long and it’s always a struggle until you find the infinite ammo hat.
Speaking from experience here
If you minmax everything to increase ATK, have recycler hat, diamond bullets, and the book familiar, guns get absolutely insane. I remember from an earlier version that you can get to 999 ATK with guns (when you couldnt master rapid fire), even the double consumption hat gets ridiculous for damage numbers, tho its not efficient
I don't think I ever used guns in this game until I got the recycle hat. the ammunition mechanic looked tedious. When you've got everything set up though, the damage output is ridiculous.
Early game you don't have decent ammo capacity, good gun options, or ammo types available to really go gun only (even mana can be an issue for rapid fire until higher levels or gebel glasses come into play)
Randos? Capacity is still an issue but it mostly leans on having access to later guns and ammo types early
I believe Guns only truly scale off stats if you have real ammo loaded, elsewise you get near base damage as I think Infinite Ammo has an atrocious scaler rate, 0.1x STR I think, it definitely does scale, your damage does slowly go up across the run as you level up, but its bad
Finally gun representation
Hollywood: D-did someone...s-say...the "r" word...? (Starts sweating and panting)
Ok Murican
with regards to recycle hat in the Randomizer. It's there but it's SUPER weighted to the point where it really only ends up showing crafting/quests even somewhat reliably.. and even then, it could be gated by something stupid like needing to make it using 99 Dark matters+The Full valkyrie set, breaking down a item that needs 10+ alkahest and the shop doesn't sell alkahest AT ALL/You can't craft alkahest OR It's locked behind the other two quest givers and it's farther down thier chains.
It's Basically the Chaos Ring in the Aria/Dawn Randomizers with a slightly better chance that you MIGHT get to see it.
As soon as you dismissed Gebel's Glasses I was like "wait, no! the rapid fire! it can be done with the blunderbuss!" It's a good thing I checked other comments to see if you ended up using it later in the video.
According to Wikipedia, "A cannon is a large-caliber gun classified as a type of artillery, which usually launches a projectile using explosive chemical propellant."
1:21:07 i just imagined a dude walking around swinging a nuclear bomb as a stick to see what it does just to explode himself and everything around him
There’s a fun glitch with Ordog that happened near the end, I’ve had the same happen. You shoot him with true arrow, he gets hit, and then he lays back down and goes to sleep. Silly dog
A cannon is a gun, that is why there is a term called Hand Cannon. Cannons and guys use the same principle. Gun powder, barrel and fire a projectile. through an explosion of the ignition of the powder.
I personally LOVED guns, and used the homing gun, either with scattershot, or some other ammo[memory sucks so remembering which one sucks]
It's honestly the best gun imo, due to good damage, AND having innate homing
The Recycle Hat and good bullets are a must with guns.
Thumbnail should be: "The Town with no DPS" A man who walk in castle like in western gun shots
I like guns. They can come in clutch with different ammo types. The low damage numbers can be deceiving. I literally killed OD with Diamond rounds like he was nothing after losing the fight 3 times normally. Just decided I was gonna hold down Healing (maxed 9/9), directional shield (9/9) with Words of wisdom at 9/9 with the skill shard and ability shard active. So even when not wearing Gebels Glasses, I have near infinite ammo with my regen rate on top of that. But popped the shield when he attacked and shot when we didn’t. I think the fight lasted 1:30. Obviously he was my last shard for the glasses, but yeah the guns are even good late game and harder difficulties once your stats are buffed from food and such. Early game, definitely trash mostly due to the lack of available ammos. Like they work, but not the best. I feel like they’re better after NG+. Also, quick tip. Find rooms with breakable lanters and they typically drop a good amount of gold. That room you went through at the castle entrance with the 4 statues drops mostly 50,100, and 500 gold per statue. Went back and forth a few tikes and already had 5k gold. Plunderers rings help too. I found with one to 2 equipped, it gives you larger quantities of gold/money way more often than not. You can also activate Welcome Party on top of the train where the cars connect, you can stand there and go back and forth and make between 7k-11k gold per ride then hop back on the other direction and do it both ways. Semi AFK gold farm. Also, focus on ATK for guns. For me, that seemed to matter with those. The numbers were almost identical stats wise and in game damage. Btw, not saying I’m 100% right, just what I noticed in my 80ish hours playing and messing around. I think their thing is if you’re going to use guns, they have their own skill ceiling and play style. To offset you being able to keep your distance they probably reduce damage to and make you focus on making each shot count. Basically lower damage, higher skill requirement.
34:45
As we can see here, Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night is a perfectly created game, with no glitches or flaws whatsoever.
From what I remember, guns being usable at all hinges on that stupid infinite ammo hat, because the damage falloff is extreme.
Lots of potential for a gun-mod though. Directional aiming with something like dual revolvers would be pretty neat.
Bullets have their own set strength unless it's infinite, in which case it gets a dramatic decrease in strength scaling from what I know. It's a way to balance it iirc
The infinite bullets being the ones you have without any bullets equipped
Not 100% sure but I recall getting a Recycle Hat from one of the "In Memory of. . ." quests in a Same Type Shuffle run.
The gun was a boss killer in my first playthrough.
That rapid fire spam killed me and cenente glasses are a must need
I was playing the randomizer of this game yesterday and I was able to buy a recycle hat in the shop
I've totally gotten the recycling hat in rando mode before, but it does seem to be rarer than gebil's glasses. and on a gun run I bet it wouldn't show up easily/at all cause RNG, it can be anywhere, including locked deep in the clothes/food questlines, food is hard to finish, clothes...I've tried, I've literally never managed to finish it in rando. maybe on a god seed (or if you just don't shuffle shops or alch...but where's the fun in that?)
also, unless they changed this in an update, which I doubt, the shop updates twice, once AFTER the first Samurai Guy fight (forgot his name) and again once you reach the area that's past the train ride, the lab place
I will say god bless the fact that once you get the Recycler Hat for doing all of Susie's quests, which you will because it's Susie. Because that, maxed out Renee's Requiem, diamond ammo and all the attack and gun buffing stuff you can stack is mad busted. Too bad I only got that mad busted stuff uh, five rooms from the final boss. And I can't even use it for grinding souls and mats because the luck stuff is more important for that. As an aside, fuck Haagenti.
1:20:10 How you gonna do my Shard Teps Oceus like that?
Not sure why it happened but if you look at 34:26 it seems like you started that screen in the background, idk maybe something about book familiar
At this point I'm sure Agartha is the only gun to be actually useful in any Igavania ever.
Edit: 44:19 Never mind, that thing has become fricking Agartha now (that still depended on you getting Gebel's Glasses though).
Edit 2: And never mind again; guns fell off so hard without a sustainable source of ammo. Can't believe Dimension Shif of all things killed this run though.
How did the softlock happen? Was it at an enemy behind the Dimension Shift room, or did ot just not exist at all?
17:25 What an interesting sentence. Lmao.
Sad that you never got one of the gun hats, not even a cowboy hat.
guns do scale on str infinite ammo doesn't. infi ammo is meant as a punishment for not being good at ammo conservation. also glasses should be allowed for infinite rapid fire spam
Well I'm confused.
I'm seeing lots of parts of the ship that I don't remember being present in my playthrough. Is my memory just bad? For example, the room where you push a box. And the room where there's a hole in the wall with a huge monster firing projectiles at you from the background.
epic Bloodless fight.
I know this doesn't matter, but cannons are indeed guns. We straight up refer to naval artillery peices as guns
alright fair, i concede!
I understand the complaints about guns being underpowered, but i also understand why they are. Aren’t many other weapons that allow you to shoot across the screen and steps require magic. You can also get decent dps out of guns using special ammo so it feels balanced enough. I definitely don’t think it would hurt to give them a bit of a boost to make them more desirable, but they’re not complete garbage.
i have a recycling hat in a current seed from disassembling
Guns are the best. My main build. Random just makes it akward to get the requirements.
I've asked this before but please someone tell me. I..I just gotta know. Is he doing a voice or is that how he talks? I gotta know!!
anything that uses gunpowder it's a gun 😉😉😉
Even a grenade?
What do you mean, Va Ischa isn't gun themed? It's clearly the shard version of Chill Penguin's "Shotgun Ice!" :) Seriously, I love watching your randomizers while I do physical therapy exercises. Nice company, just distracting enough.
Please strongly consider checking out the World Tour mode in Street Fighter 6 using Modern Controls. You get a character creator, genuinely loose track of time from fun playing, and covertly teaches you the mechanics of not just SF6, but all fighting games. I'm currently 40 hours into World Tour mode, which is all single player offline content. If you don't see yourself as a fighting game player, but like fighting games, I cannot recommend this approach strongly enough. Base edition is easily worth srp
Bro, i was wayching your randomizers, decided to start one of my own and noticed something.
Idk if you seen this, but on the ship. The first time you get on deck fucking Zangetso is rowing a boat like a mad man in the background 😂😂 at first i thought it was that creature you see in the window of the train, but nope, its old mate rowing for dear life 😂😂
4 years later still no coop what a scam lol
Sad
Its being worked on, they had announced and recruited beta testers since May
bathin is like a mix of zephyr and burter, kinda dig it
Guns are cannons
I had not considered this possibility, ty
I wanna know how that speed tech works
wait... is this stewie?????? STEWIE PLAYING BLOODSTAINED?????
Whips were such a letdown in this game. I don't know who chose to give them such a weird hitbox... Not to mention the sound effect. It's nitpicking at this point but many weapon sound effects are disappointing
Anyone ever tell you that you kinda sound like lifeweaver from overwatch2
ESTA NO TURBO IMPOSSIVEL REASILAR ISSO TANTAS VEZES SEM ERRAR
Realizar o que?
@@wallacesousuke1433 l1 baixo l1 baixo sem errar nenhuma vez..igual povo fica fazendo com alucard...e olha q jogo video game desde 1986...ficar esquivando e cortando no minimo uma vez erra..quando coloca no turbo ai nao erra...isso q estou falando...
@@rodrygosilva1548 interessante.. Eu não posso dizer se é turbo ou não, mas considerando que não é tão difícil assim cancelar a animação do backdash nesse jogo, fora os anos de prática que ele tem, fico no muro rs
@@wallacesousuke1433 pra que vcs fala esses nomes horriveis backdash? é apenas uma esquiva pra tras...simples,nao tem nada de backdash é esquivaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@@wallacesousuke1433 anos de pratica ??o que esse cara tem de idade é o tempo q de chupada q as mulher mi deu ali pra baixo...jogo com alucard tem só 37 anos..sei muito bem o que é umautomatico...jogo kof 2002 todos os dias online...treino desde quando o jogo saiu e mesmo assim a gente erra mesmo sabendo o tempo e tudo mais
Is all guns this crappy?
Why Miriam sounds like a chipmunk?
He picked up a voiced changer in the Galleon Minerva, it's very annoying to it has good stats...
Vary sloppy
Guns in 2D games always look so boring and dumb lol what's the point when you dont need to/can't aim?