Why so negative? - Craig on Simeone’s comments on competing against Barca & Real Madrid | ESPN FC

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  • The ESPN FC crew weigh in on Diego Simeone saying it’s hard to compete with Barcelona and Real Madrid.
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  • @antcall6779
    @antcall6779 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +23

    How can Burnley talk about something being negative? All he does is negative 🤣

    • @hafriz8746
      @hafriz8746 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nah

  • @Rodney231
    @Rodney231 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    Simeone needs to improve and get more from his squad but this ESPN FC crew is way too critical ......he won la Liga 21/22 which is fairly recent.... Are we expecting Atlethico Madrid to dominate Spanish football???

    • @avikellerman4539
      @avikellerman4539 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      They need to create controversy and chaos to gain views. And to unnecessarily pile pressure on some manager or some players to potentially have them fired or ruin their careers. This is what most of the ESPN pundits do. Their hopes at the start of the season were that Barca would struggle and they could keep bashing on players like Lewandowski, Raphina or new manager Hansi Flick. But their predictions backfired so they have to settle for trying to destroy Simeone's reputation in hopes that enough naive and gullible Atletico fans start moaning and create a toxic situation for the coach and the club which possibly ends in a sacking.
      Reality is Simeone MADE Atletico Madrid what it is today. He made them relevant. Certainly the most successful Atletico Madrid manager of recent times. Maybe of all-time. This is a club which was relegated around 2000 if I remember correctly. He brought them back to relevance. 2 La Liga titles, 2 UCL finals, 2 Europa Leagues and every year they're at least top 4. That's about as good as you can realistically hope for if you're Atletico Madrid.

    • @PhilliesNostalgia
      @PhilliesNostalgia 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It was 20/21

  • @basheerumar9615
    @basheerumar9615 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    If Barcelona with all their financial problems can still field teenagers on the pitch and compete then he has no excuse

    • @KLHK1981
      @KLHK1981 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He doesn’t have yamal. You cant simply play a youth whose level is not there yet, this Doesn’t work in football

    • @basheerumar9615
      @basheerumar9615 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@KLHK1981 you’re just making excuses… his tactics are outdated.. you cant win with that ugly football

    • @obieenemchukwu5838
      @obieenemchukwu5838 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@KLHK1981yamal is one player and just turned 17. He’s tactics is trash and too pragmatic after spending the way he did. Give Marcelino or any other decent coach that team and they’ll do great.

    • @bluebirdtechnologygrouplim3304
      @bluebirdtechnologygrouplim3304 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@basheerumar9615 well he’s proved you can

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +32

    Well he's not wrong tho..Madrid and Barça are the 2 biggest clubs in the world, nobody comes close..The expectations for them are too high, over the top..Prime Barça and Madrid would farm in any league..Prem has no technical teams , those 2 clubs would have won 5 prem each in 10 years

    • @stefan5730
      @stefan5730 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

      Real yes, Barca not for some time now. Barca has as many CL semi finals as Ajax in the last decade.

    • @richiestockton
      @richiestockton 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ok kylie keep spinning around with the prem rent free 😂

    • @flametoes
      @flametoes 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@stefan5730do you think being one of the biggest clubs is based solely on titles? Barca and Madrid are above everybody else. That’s why Barca, in the midst of a “financial crisis” have gone from shambles last season to arguably the most in-form team in the world, whilst renovating what was already one of the largest stadiums in Europe and maintaining the best academy in the world. Let’s not even start on Madrid. That’s the reality.

    • @MADRIDPOOL44207
      @MADRIDPOOL44207 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Try to sneak barca😂

    • @curtischarles5299
      @curtischarles5299 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​​@@stefan5730do you realize champions league is a cup? In a cup anything can happen. It depends on your draw and luck. Secondly, barca still eat madrid to la liga in the times they won the CL . A season tells you how good you have been .not the champions league. Chelsea won the champions league being 7th in england. Liverpool won the CL and still didnt win the EPL .

  • @unknown12124
    @unknown12124 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    I rate Simeone so highly, but he should’ve known that restructuring an old team in a single transfer window takes ages just look at PSG’s failed galiticos

    • @LtDangle911
      @LtDangle911 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      30 million for Sorloth..what a waste

    • @sublime9525
      @sublime9525 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And, also, Nottingham Forest!

  • @maricapitaljorswats6694
    @maricapitaljorswats6694 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    craig just bursting in with his own retric, when you got visitors

  • @FootballYankee
    @FootballYankee 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    What gets me about La Liga is the fact that everyone is berating Mbappe but no one is calling out Jude Bellingham for his god awful form this season. The guy is constantly losing the ball and people just keep making excuses for him. Are there double standards for English players?

    • @stefan5730
      @stefan5730 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      Jude cant shine anymore like last season because of Mbappe. He was a false 9, now he is a classic number 8.

    • @arcaine101
      @arcaine101 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hes injured

    • @eddieherrera5314
      @eddieherrera5314 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Jude hasn’t been bad

    • @zorashki
      @zorashki 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Always been... freaking Sancho is considered world class and great.. you can imagine.. Overrated shait players like Grealish priced $100 million. Man United fans thinks Dalot is at the level of Cafu and Madrid wants him...m delulu English Media.

    • @FootballYankee
      @FootballYankee 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@eddieherrera5314 He has been atrocious bro

  • @jonathancarrillo7739
    @jonathancarrillo7739 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Stebie STILL so salty Atleti bossed a prime Liverpool team in the champions league. 😂

  • @nicholasbaldeo5788
    @nicholasbaldeo5788 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    People want to see more flare more tricks dribbling more physicality but with style

  • @IcySanZ
    @IcySanZ 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    The are great at defending but always seem to struggle to score goals which in the end wins games

  • @chinitopogi7511
    @chinitopogi7511 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    They still compete against Barca, Real Madrid and even in the Champions League.

  • @smokeyplays7183
    @smokeyplays7183 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    American Atleti Fan here , cholo is A stubborn man but he's a Leader and a Icon . I like supporting him , when we got Luis Suarez and won the league that was a great time

  • @devanshutrivedi9221
    @devanshutrivedi9221 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    These guys are absolutely clueless, Simeone for the last 15 years has been one of the best managers in the world, Atletico were behind Sevilla and Valencia when he took over got them two league titles and two ucl finals if not for madrid they would have won them both. If you think he's done a bad job get your head checked asap

  • @martincaballero4295
    @martincaballero4295 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Loving Alex's take on this topic!
    Considering the magnitude of RM's and Barça's success in the 21st century, the only team that comes close to those 2 in terms of trophies is Atlético de Madrid 🔴⚪️
    You can make an argument for Athletic Club Bilbao, Sevilla and Valencia having more trophies (Copa del Rey, Supercopa, Europa League).
    But Atleti has been consistent in their La Liga and Champions League presence for the past decade.

  • @Dr_Diaz
    @Dr_Diaz 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +71

    No English club is capable of winning laliga. Real madrid and barca are too much for anyone.

    • @Blaze-x3t
      @Blaze-x3t 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Real madrid maybe but Varca🚮🚮

    • @cadesky6029
      @cadesky6029 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +29

      Only City will have a chance no one else. The other English teams will get smoked

    • @jonpool9030
      @jonpool9030 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +33

      That's nonsense. Man city Liverpool arsenal are all capable of winning laliga

    • @akeembuchanan8180
      @akeembuchanan8180 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Okay spokesman 😅

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Absolutely.. LaLiga has technical and tactical clubs from top to bottom.. We're the godfathers of modern football..The only good team in Prem that can play against LaLiga's Technicalities are only City ..The rest are head less running chi. ckens

  • @alesandrocontini3938
    @alesandrocontini3938 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Simply Because he's "NEGATIVE", he Representing Himself and it's So Obvious !
    Just Wach Them While They are Playing in LALIGA, Look What he is Doing During The Match, and YOU Will Keep Laughing Because he Act's Like a CLOWN, and not a Respectable Coach !
    Any Coach With Good Quality Will Move Atletico to Another Level, Better Level.

  • @JJ-zp9vr
    @JJ-zp9vr 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If CR 7 in not a football player this guy had 3 UCL 😂😂😂

  • @KareemCarter-jj1sd
    @KareemCarter-jj1sd 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cr7 watching Diego Simone interview on a couch and his foot on a stoll saying 'Whoop Whoop whoop' 4hattricks 😢

    • @24keys93
      @24keys93 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      2 la Liga in 9 years but I get wat u saying

  • @BC-mj7gj
    @BC-mj7gj 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Stevie just can’t get over that Atletico Madrid show in Anfield. Atletico winning 2 la Liga tittle competing with Barca and Madrid in the past decade is a success. Liverpool won one premier league title in 33 years he should be bothered by that😂

    • @OmarAmer-kg5gt
      @OmarAmer-kg5gt 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      3 laligas ??? he won only 2 please fact check your facts

    • @logirex
      @logirex 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Simeone got Atleti two league wins in 14 seasons 🤷‍♂
      They also play some awful effing football despite the talents they have. It is clear though Simeone and the club only care about Champions League money each season and I guess the fans are ok with that 😂

    • @dreddmann6532
      @dreddmann6532 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fact: Atletico Madrid have never won the UEFA Champions League.

    • @BC-mj7gj
      @BC-mj7gj 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dreddmann6532 So is Arsenal and PSG

    • @BC-mj7gj
      @BC-mj7gj 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@OmarAmer-kg5gt my bad they won 2 La Liga titles and 2 Europa league more success than Arsenal, Man United, Tottenham, AC Milan, PSG, Dortmund etc…. That’s not bad

  • @ghostc1pher
    @ghostc1pher 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The spending doesn't tell the whole story. How does Atleti's academy compare to Barca's?

  • @yyzsupra8338
    @yyzsupra8338 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    after craig's stupidity yesterday with the pulisic PK, can you start with someone else first? seriously. he is funny, but pulisic scored that incredible goal and basically rubbed his egotistical teammates noses in their self-righteous attitude. start with stevie. he was a better player and is very reasonable in speaking. craig starts off every conversation...change it up a bit and humble him up to. i like craig, but back burner buddy.

  • @bluebirdtechnologygrouplim3304
    @bluebirdtechnologygrouplim3304 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He’s won more titles with Atletico competing with two of the biggest clubs in the world than Klopp did with Liverpool

  • @Gabet8282
    @Gabet8282 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    His rite. The fans want entertainment and results.

  • @LtDangle911
    @LtDangle911 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Recruitment seems to have gone downhill a bit in recent years. They need to be bringing in better players than what they’ve been doing recently. Squad just isn’t good enough.

  • @kingzmusik1850
    @kingzmusik1850 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    As a Barcelona fan, I would like to see a new manager at atletico madrid.

  • @soccersensation
    @soccersensation ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Would have been nice to actually hear his quote referencing the title of this video...

  • @ShaqsBlurryVisionNetwork
    @ShaqsBlurryVisionNetwork 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To be clear, Simeone IS the highest paid manager at the world.

  • @palatialslumlord4938
    @palatialslumlord4938 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    3:56 When did Nathan Fielder start covering football

  • @dennisaddo2609
    @dennisaddo2609 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When I look at this squad, I don't think Simeone is the right man to get the best out of them.

  • @zekusas
    @zekusas 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Its true that simeone tries to sign the same type of players. I dont see exciting wingers or a midfielder that creates chances

  • @bluebirdtechnologygrouplim3304
    @bluebirdtechnologygrouplim3304 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If only Craig Burley set such high standards in his own career as he does with everyone else maybe be he wouldn’t of been so bang average

  • @mensocesar
    @mensocesar ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    these people don’t watch La Liga, they don’t have a right to have an opinion on Simeone. If Simeone was English he would be praised for punching above his weight. Don’t forget Nicole managed in the MLS, if anything he’s envious.

  • @MrAZulfadzli
    @MrAZulfadzli ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As a real madrid fan..... I miss Pathetico era, when we can say we need a real rival. Lol

  • @mamadousy9632
    @mamadousy9632 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    He won Laliga TWICE when Barca had Prime Messi and Madrid Prime Ronaldo but ATM just needs to a change of management at this point

    • @sterlingwalker4374
      @sterlingwalker4374 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Didn't they just win once then? I feel like the other one Ronaldo was already gone and messi for sure wasn't peak but I could be wrong

  • @compballrsa
    @compballrsa ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They beat Real Madrid twice last season. That was the only time Real Madrid lost despite playing Bayern, City, Barca, etc

    • @sulemusah4670
      @sulemusah4670 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Did he bought all those players just to beat real Madrid or to win trophy's 🏆?

  • @Fashjr
    @Fashjr 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They've always been in top 4, you don't spend 200 million just to be in top 4.

  • @robertkeizer2016
    @robertkeizer2016 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Stevie doesn't know what it's like to coach in Spain he coached in MLS and didn't cut it

  • @raspower2200
    @raspower2200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The special one use to park the bus, and he was brilliant

  • @knandez7__821
    @knandez7__821 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    The ones who don't support Simeone are absolutely ignorant and don't have a clue about our DNA or values. The most successful coaches in world football today hasn't been as loyal as Diego Simeones's years at one club. To drop Simeone will probably be the death of our club for probably 5-10 years. The DNA of the club and Simeone is ingrained in us. Kicking Simeone out will be extremely counterproductive. Don't want any opportunity to where we could end up like current Manchester United for the past couple years! As Alex said "be careful what you wish for".

    • @hafriz8746
      @hafriz8746 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Lol

    • @Stoikpilled
      @Stoikpilled ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Id put klopp in atlético how about that

  • @troyfrost6993
    @troyfrost6993 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You guys talk like football is better now, but it's not. And the players are average . Too many games the players are tied.

    • @KLHK1981
      @KLHK1981 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That’s why you have 25 squad player

  • @smokeyplays7183
    @smokeyplays7183 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Soo happy when we went to anfield and beat Liverpool 🙏

  • @papasmamas1
    @papasmamas1 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ive seen all Atletico Madrid games since this new season, they are horrible. Im follow them for Alvarez, theyll be lucky if finish 3rd in La Liga, and lucky if they pass to quarters of Champions League. Thats how bad they are this season.

  • @serialkilla23
    @serialkilla23 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Compare it to man utd n chelsea….spend more than man city n arsenal …but can’t even finish 4th….simeone is overachieving in years with Atletico Madrid….they have no biz in finishing 4th every season.

  • @Flipcrash
    @Flipcrash 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Woah he has amazing spanish pourtagese

  • @purplestain946
    @purplestain946 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    burley cant ever see positive. yall wanted Simeone to try a new play style.. it takes time

  • @Arwin-vy5ky3qp6s
    @Arwin-vy5ky3qp6s ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Atletico need to be look for a new coach and fire Simeoni total for this to work

  • @chadflpo635
    @chadflpo635 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excuses many top Spanish coaches would do much better with the exact sqaud A.M has now, it's time to move on to a new manager.

  • @JJ-zp9vr
    @JJ-zp9vr 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    CR 7 best in the world

  • @kingsleynwofe1244
    @kingsleynwofe1244 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Stevie dont wear matching tie with your shirt. I shouldn't be teaching you this at 80yrs old

  • @muhammedjagne4747
    @muhammedjagne4747 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ESPN want to sack someone now😂😂😂😂

  • @sisa_official1
    @sisa_official1 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is that guy with EarPods using some kind of filter on his face?I’ve never seen someone open their mouth that wide while speaking English

  • @yogi2983
    @yogi2983 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The old men in the studio need to wake up

  • @eirenuaireland
    @eirenuaireland 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Very bad sign when the manager is criticising his own countryman.

  • @yungharry
    @yungharry 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Teams has studied atletico who always score one and defend the whole 90 minutes which a lot of teams figure out

  • @raspower2200
    @raspower2200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    And they have problem with barca passing

  • @davidpayne3719
    @davidpayne3719 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Alex made too much sense. He’s going to be fired in 2 months

  • @Sylvesterstyles789
    @Sylvesterstyles789 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Burley is a tool. Get him off.

  • @MrJadude
    @MrJadude 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes other than barca and real another team can win .... ONCE IN 20 YEARS
    Stop pertending that it easy when reqlmand barca have players who flock to be there ... and spand 2x money... the league is a joke
    Idk whats worse ... the spanish or german leagues for this

  • @sr.patata4788
    @sr.patata4788 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Genuine whining from Craig and Stevie.

  • @laminjawo5586
    @laminjawo5586 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Stevie is right so boring watching them. They play like stoke .

  • @nativesezsnas6035
    @nativesezsnas6035 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Simeone is Jose's clone..

  • @JJ-zp9vr
    @JJ-zp9vr 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Siuuuiiiiiiuuuuuuiiiiuuuu 😂😂

  • @mem5860
    @mem5860 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No excuse, spend a lot of millions, you have to be harder than them

  • @juliojimenez9794
    @juliojimenez9794 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Real Madrid would not win the PL. They're a great tournament team, but an average league team.

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Average league?? Where do you get those narratives?? From your deluded media 😂 LaLiga Always spanks Prem in Europe..Your teams are just overhyped brands kid ..You won't even be able to face a mid-table team in LaLiga

  • @raspower2200
    @raspower2200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Creg need to go and coach

  • @beztoptv7175
    @beztoptv7175 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hard to compete against Barca and Real yet you got a draw against real. This man is just lazy. Needs to be sacked

  • @KLHK1981
    @KLHK1981 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To win la liga, Just need beat the rest of 18 teams. Farmers league

  • @georgechima3285
    @georgechima3285 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Even if u give simeone all the stars in the world he stil can never win anything

  • @tomaszstarzZz
    @tomaszstarzZz 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Atletico can hire Xavi 🤣

  • @osundefosa
    @osundefosa 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Atletico Madrid should get Thomas Tuchel to put them in the next level.

    • @soohfxxh
      @soohfxxh 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thomas is washed up.

  • @raspower2200
    @raspower2200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Real Madrid entertaining????

  • @AllenNgowe-ti7uy
    @AllenNgowe-ti7uy 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Facts

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Atléti board needs to thank Simeone and then mutually part ways.. He's done enough now it's time for them to move on.. Football has evolved, his style is way too negative, dull football and no adaptation.. Atléti is a big club and could be bigger with a modern Manager.. Atléti should be winning champions leagues..Even City is a household name now how much more Atléti

    • @soohfxxh
      @soohfxxh 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      As someone who visits madrid regularly and read the Spanish papers, only the English media seem to have a problem with Diego.

  • @Blaze-x3t
    @Blaze-x3t 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Trash atletico should get relegated along with Varca

    • @Ziri0615
      @Ziri0615 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      Penalty for Real Madrid

    • @Blaze-x3t
      @Blaze-x3t 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ziri0615 penalty for Varca

    • @AllenNgowe-ti7uy
      @AllenNgowe-ti7uy 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      😂😂😂RMadrid fans are such trolls

    • @MaestroPlaymaker
      @MaestroPlaymaker 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      You’re so obsessed with Barcelona, commenting everywhere 😂😂😂

    • @Ziri0615
      @Ziri0615 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@AllenNgowe-ti7uy They mostly have a negative IQ