But only if you do it it gently in case there are butterflies at the competition or you may damage their wings or feelings and newaza will be allowed as long as on the way down we whisper their appropriate pronoun's 😂
With the exception of rule number 12, which really is a very dangerous situation, all the others are ridiculous!!! They're ending judo!! We are losing more and more space to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which has modernized and is much clearer to understand and much more inclusive. Jigoro Kano has always strived for excellence and that's why he created judo, including his practical and philosophical ideas and you guys are spoiling our beloved sport.
I've trained Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for a long time and have only dabbled in judo, but I've always had the most immense respect for your sport. However, the more refine and specific and arcane the rules become, the harder it becomes to respect judo. I understand the IJF wants to keep it spectator friendly, but from the outside, judo seems to become more and more specific and less related to actually being able to practical usage, and more related to some kind of very specific 'vision' of what an ideal throw looks like.
BJJ easy to understand? only for those who practice... Jigoro Kano himself always excluded dangerous techniques and changed the competitive rules several times...
@@ricardokerscher not like this. Don't do that to the memory of Kano. These rule changes are ridiculous. We already have a completely unnecessary ban on leg grabs which every other grappling sport allows.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq Did you exclude Greco-Roman wrestling from grappling sports? Because there you are not only prohibited from grabbing opponents legs, but ALL leg techniques (ashiwaza) are banned, i.e no sweeps, tai-otoshi, uchimata, harai or hane goshi etc.
Pissed me off not even an explanation, just “no score and shido”.. they said rule changes are for media and watchers, what about the players, plus it looks cool anyways 😂
My complaints: ---The ban of the reverse seoi nage is a complete non sense in and of itself. But furthermore, are the referees really gonna be able to tell the difference between a reverse seoinage and a missed sode tsuri komi goshi? Often times the difference is subtle, especially with drop throws. ---Are you really gonna give no score to that Uchi-mata counter attack? Then what risk am i really taking when committing to an uchi-mata? At best i am gonna get a score and in the worst case scenario i will only have to defend myself on the ground. ---This is a minor complaint but: how many times are you going to change the requirements for a fit judogi? Just do an effective study already and set for the correct lengths and measures once and for all. Sorry for the rant and bitterness but i felt like expressing my honest opinions.
With the uchi-mata, are you referring to 12:45 - "Rollover counter techniques"? To my understanding, this doesn't apply to uchi mata sukashi, just these rollover 'counters' (faux counters imo). I think this is a good rule. Committing to an uchi-mata is a risk for several other reasons too, mainly ending up in a bad position for ne-waza, which now has much more room in the competitions than some time back. Idk about the reasoning for reverse seoi, except it being an ugly technique :)).
@@martinkorecek9816 I am referring to that point indeed. For the sukashi you would have to anticipate the uchi mata to perfom it and step out of the attack. If the attacker manages to put his leg between yours, your only option to counter it would now be to do an ura nage (if my understanding of the rule is correct btw), which is not really viable if the attacker has fully commited forward with the uchi-mata. That been said, if you consider roll over counters as "faux counters" i cannot really convince you to think otherwise. Lastly, if we were to ban all the ugly techniques based on personal preferences, we would be maybe left with two or three allowed techniques, which i think is all but beneficial to the sport: Judo is beautiful because you can practice it in a variety of ways. (imo, of course)
@@abelitomerino You don't have to anticipate uchi-mata for a good counter, like one of this year's highlights: th-cam.com/video/OPDQIC5rPvE/w-d-xo.html. And by saying that reverse seoi is ugly, I'm not saying that rule is right. I'll have to yet look into why it's disallowed.
@@martinkorecek9816 yes you are right, but i think we can agree that the counter shown in the video is very spectacular and kind of an outlier. In most situations you' re stuck with tori's leg between yours, and i think you should be allowed to perform a kaeshi (which maybe you are as long as you don't roll over: again this is where my understanding of Neil Adams' words could be lacking). Anyway, thank you for discussing with me.
You said everything. Seoi nage is complete nonsense. Imagine how its gonna be for koreans, Japanese and everyone who is practicing that technique. I am telling you people will transfer to bjj because sport is evolving and doesn't have every year more ridiculous rules.
6:10 - Continuation Of Techniques 8:17 - Waza-ari Landing 1 10:51 - Waza-ari Landing 2 11:33 - Landing On Elbows Or Hands 12:45 - Rollover Counter Techniques 14:20 - Reverse Seoi Nage 15:05 - Gripping Under The Belt In The End Phase 16:47 - Lapel And Collar Grip 17:40 - Unconventional 18:20 - Gripping Breaking Penalties 19:00 - Arranging of the Judogi And Hair 20:20 - Head Diving
As a competitor and coach, I was looking forward to a video explaining the reasoning behind the rules. I know and watch enough videos to spot examples, why is the reasoning inaccessible? IJF, what do I need to read or watch to understand the reasoning?
Jumping arm bars, korean seoi, rolling counters, leg grabs, standing armlocks, "gerbi choke", "unorhodox" grips... what else? List is long. Banning techniques is not way to go. There are many judo techniques we dont see anymore and its killing judo from evolving.
each time there are more prohibitions, let's make a contactless sport like aikido, prohibit the most spectacular technique in judo, we need to think of doing it. Need to make a petition, or circulate the hashtag #BackReverseSeioNage
This is why after over a decade of Judo, I moved over to BJJ. I stopped 5 years ago because of what was happening to the sport, and then I see this video come up on my feed and knew that I made the right decision. Judo was simple when I started as a kid. Use good technique to get an opponent to the ground and either pin or submit them and if you were passive, you got a penalty. Honestly I don't think I could come back to Judo as I would just be penalised for anything I did which is such a shame as I fell in love with the sport all those years ago. Judo will gradually die out with how the IJF handle the sport
These guys have fucked up judo so much. “To make to sport more attractive to watch,…” they’ve done the complete opposite. They made it more complex and boring to watch. Who tf comes up with these new rules all the time?!
In an attempt to make it look more attractive to people who doesn't practice judo they've made it less attractive to people who actually does... that's truly fucked up!
-Reverse seoi nage complete nonsense, failed sode is much more dangerous -judogi measurements are every year different its really ridiculous - ruining the sport, more people will transfer to brazilian jiu jitsu because sport is evolving
How democratic is Judo? Who are they to decide? What about the vast majority of judoka that have nothing to say about that? Who is judo for? Is it for the elites or for millions of judoka all over the world? Or is it for some PR people that dictate what they want? Removing possibilities to score makes our sport even more boring, we've seen it at the Tokyo Olympics, watching judo is almost as boring as watching football. This development started in 2009 with the ban of leg grabs.
In an ideal world people would treat sport judo/olympic judo with the contempt it deserves. As you say, is it all about a hundred or two elite players or is it about the millions who practice worldwide? Clubs need to be stronger and refuse to follow this crap, like the leg grabs. Why not do it in your club? Or any other safe throw? Olympic judo is deathly boring. It has far too big an impact in the judo world than it should.
I was hoping for leg grips and throws being allowed again, but again Judo is the only martial art that removes techniques instead of adding and innovating. I miss doing kata guruma...
About Decision # 6: I can't understand why the IJF has banned the Reverse Seoinage. They should explain, give a logical reason and a clear answer, what criteria has been used to penalize it? The statistics do not show that it is a dangerous technique. There are no reasonable statistics to support this decision, judokas are not injured (both when applying it and when being thrown). Since Judo was created, Morote gari existed and up to 8 years before the Beijing Olympic Games, the leg grip became very popular as a very effective form of throwing, most countries used it and won many gold medals. With this, after Beijing it was banned and with it its variants disappeared (Kata guruma, kuchiki taoishi, kubisu gaeshi and others), the IJF said that the Morote Gari and Kata guruma was very confused with the launches of wrestling and Sambo and was lost the judo part, I remember that was the explanation. Many years ago (since the 70s) the Kani-Basami (flying scissors) had already been banned because it could spoil the legs of the uke, there was even a very popular case in Japan in the 80s that involved Saito and Yamashita (who was injured)....But to ban and penalize Reverse Soinage, it seems to me that it does not make sense, an explanation with credible statistics and easy to verify is necessary.
Agreed. If you look at Decision 1, you get lots of commentary so you can understand what is legal and what is not. They should have followed their own script from the same video in terms of explanation.
I raised a big stink years ago when they banned leg grabs and I remember judo colleagues of mine stating that it wasn't quite a big deal since most would sprawl to prevent the ippon anyway. I stated that if we accepted them watering down some rules than the IJF would just keep watering them down until they eventually took away something that even my colleagues liked. I wish I was wrong but "I told you so" doesn't feel good to say in any way. They're pushing more and more people to BJJ.
Then they say they want to "modernize judo" yet the Korean seoi a modern technique removed, the first rule is aids . So now even if you are driving on them you don't get an ippon even if they get their damn back to the mat, no counter uchi mata how dare you want to a legit strat to counter a throw. With no justifications at all.
@@jrmbayne so explain how the rule changes and the banning of non traditional techniques advances judo and appeals to a new audience? Innovation is about accepting new ideas and methods to advance the sport not surpressing it. I am allowed my opinion and as with many others feel the latest changes especially around reverse seoi nage is a negative move.
@@nathanyoung8058 you are correct, the definition of innovation is to create or introduce new ideas, and IJF has not banned anyone from doing that, in fact, the rules that they are now enforcing have created many new techniques over the last decade, and even made some lost techniques viable again. And I guarantee you, innovation to adapt and be effective in this new rule set will continue to be prevalent., I did not say that their decision to ban reverse seoi was correct, And you should not infer that. But I can tell you that taking away leg grabs created one of the greatest periods of innovation that Judo has seen in a long time. As this new ban will also do, it is not a good thing, but they are not killing innovation by any stretch.
@@oneguy7202 you got the numbers on that? Internationally, Judo is more popular than ever and has larger financial prices for placing than it ever had in the past.
Is there somewhere to read the reasonings for the new decisions? Specifically the reverse seoi, and shido for not falling flat on the back. Reverse seoi isn't an unstoppable, foolproof way of winning every match, there is clear and obvious counterplay and a risk to throwers own hands, so it seems reasonable to keep. Applying a shido for stopping an ippon seems strange as well. Uke is already giving away a score via waza-ari - why penalize them as well? I like the gripping changes, and the weigh in times.
@@JuanPadilla376 but Japan doesn't make the rules, IJF took over judo from Japan and now they makes the rules. I don't understand why you are saying reason is Japan.
So now basically, if you do bad judo throwing yourself in a bad attack like low makikomi is more attractive than a standing Reverse seoi nage? Why advantage those who dive down to make opponents look passive? I really don’t get the point in limitings techniques and Judoka’s creativity… IJF IS EVIL.
Clear reasons why ijf should not hold power over the teachings of judo. And more reasons why more alternative federations and groups of judo should compete for attention of traditional judo teachings in their own tournament styles.
I can understand the reasoning behind some of the rules but some of them clearly have no discernible reason for the change. Looking forward to the reason for the reverse seio-nage ban.
If i had a company that in each four years they changing the path of the firm they would be fire on the spot. To much incompetence always changing the rules and to worst. Soccer had is rules almost unchanged for more than 100 years.
Je comprend pas pourquoi interdire les reverse soei nage. Ces techniques font partie de l’ADN du style de judo de plusieurs personnes, je pense notamment aux koréens. Surtout qu’aux fils, le reverse est devenu l’une des plus belles techniques à voir et est devenu très populaire chez jeunes. La vidéo ne nous explique nullement pourquoi l’interdire. Et je ne parle même pas des contre de uchi-mata qui sont l’une des meilleures punitions dans le monde du judo
Décision 5 : Tu peux toujours contrer uchi-mata tant que tu ne t'ecroules pas derrière l'attaquant pour le retourner. L'objectif est d'assurer que le contre est bien basé sur un contrôle du contre-attaquant. Décision 6 : Le reverse soei nage ne méritait pas un Shido.. S'il y a un risque important de blessure, ils pouvaient simplement l'interdire sans punir.
@@wcolatino Yes. there is. There is 3 levels of judo: Basic (下), intermediate (中) and advanced (上). And the purpose of judo training consists of: "judo physical education method", 柔道体育法 "judo competition method", 柔道勝負法 and "judo intelectual em moral training method" 柔道修心法 According Jigoro Kano himself.
Some rules do make sense, but there are others that I personally don't see their purpose. IJF is making judo attractive to watch for non-Judokas but non-attractive for judokas
How can judo be atractive for non judokas if each 4 years they change thecrules, non judokas will stop to understand the rules and they have to learn again. How many non judokas you will think that going to read this new rules?
I stopped training judo in 2006. Today's judo doesn't have much in common with the traditional judo I knew. That all changed in 2012, when the IjF federation introduced dramatic laws prohibiting grabbing legs in a stand-up collar. (Morote gari, Te guruma, etc.) This was to help the Japanese, who had problems defending these techniques. And then I thought that it is impossible to spoil my beloved discipline more... Politics is even in sports
These New rules Just kill the judoka spirit inside the millions of athletes around the world, you can't just change the traditional rules just besause your ambitions, so disappointed
More than feeling personally attacked, I feel like the judo as a whole is loosing it's roots gradually. I can understand that a sport needs to evolve (even more when it comes to regulate real danger) but saying that you change the rules for medias is inexcusable to me. We don't need fights to look like a kata demonstration and killing creativity will lead to less dynamic to me. I really fell in love with this sport 10 years ago and I'm feeling like it's not the same anymore. It really makes me sad.
What about the Sode-Techniques, especially in the sometimes assimilated style of Hashimoto? There would be kind if evidence for injuries and Uke is often not able to react properly...from the first kind of view, not too much sense can be found in the actual changes...
I do not agree here. Sode with one hand like Koga and Hashimoto if done right is a great throw. The question is: can we drive it with the hand just like makikomi in the end phase?
Spot on fella. I love Hashimoto but the way he forces his sode entry is clearly dangerous for the elbow and for the head of the opponent, which get forced into a head dive against his will. Yet, they banned reverse seoi. The nonsense is huge.
@@ricardokerscher Sim, mas hoje em dia a grande maioria das academias de judô treinam segundo as regras olímpicas....Hoje em dia, já foi em algum treino de judô que poderia pegar na perna? Fazer Kani Bassami... Pode ser até que sim, mas na maioria das vezes, não. A IFJ dita, infelizmente, o Judô como um todo, outra prova disso é a escassez de treinos em Ne-Waza... Infelizmente, mas é a realidade.
@@thiagodoca aí a culpa é da academia, de seus professores... O Judô está aí pra ser estudado e aprofundado... Se a maioria segue as regraa da IJF, ficar reclamando nas redes sociais é que não vai mudar nada...
@@ricardokerscher A teoria é linda, na prática isso não acontece. A IFJ dita o que o Judô vai fazer, e não adianta, se um professor quer que os alunos participem de uma competição, eles devem treinar segundo as regras. Isso limita o judô como um todo, são raríssimas as academias que não vão em Shiai. Até as tradicionais vão.
@@ricardokerscher E além disso, essas competições limitam o judô também como um esporte. Faz tal pegada: Shido, tal golpe: Shido, tal movimentação: Shido....e lógico que não sou contra isso, mas cada vez mais estão se limitando, limitando golpes, ações, pegadas.. dizer q isso não afeta a parte "não esportiva" do judô é tapar o sol com peneira.
@@judomachine how many times has Orujov been robbed...now they nerfed the reverse seoi, and even made uchimata more powerful by not scoring the best counter against uchimata, guess i will start forcing head diving against uchimata players🤷,
Already is...at lease here in the US. The rise of the UFC brought BJJ schools all over the place. There is two schools 5 minutes of my house but I drive 1 hour each way to do Judo with my son 3-4 times a week its a shame...
@@techdecodednews well judo was never big in the us to begin with. A more realistic example would be if this was happening in european countries for eg
Dear judo family we will do with Your favorite discipline whatever we wont and we dont care what you think about it. We know better and You can only seat and clap your hands. And seriously You making changes in rules so often and so ridiculous that Youare killing judo and its popularity. Same judokas had made a lot of houres to do reverse seoinage perfectly and You trowing their work to garbage. There its a lot if criticism in comments below and below your fb post and You dont respond. This is your respect? Its realy sad. You are sad people. Judo fan.
Kani basami had a legitimate reason for banning: lots of knees were injured when the thrower pulled the weight of uke on one leg resulting the "scissoring" of the knee. You can see and hear this on camera in the Yamashita vs Endo fight in the all Japan a long time ago. Reverse Seoi nage however doesn't really cause injuries I've literally never seen an injury occur in competition Judo where the reason was reverse seoi nage therefore the ban is completely unreasonable and counterproductive to their goal of making Judo more appealing to spectators as the reverse seoi nage is one of the most flashy throws out there few people can perform
i know right? to be honest i dont agree with the counters to and the arranging judogi is kinda stupid like what if youre judogi is all over the place and you have 2 shidos you should just let it be? how is that fair i understand getting shido for wasting time for that but sometimes arranging is needed
@@justarandomsleepingredpand7324 yep it will become shido war with less techniques and so many shidos.. well even for some1 like me who love the sport it will be boring to watch hope they will change it somehow
@@yogevtmax4816 I really hope so. The sport has such amazing roots and history so it's really disappointing to see all of these rules making it less and less fun and exciting for players specifically cause in the end it should be players first and spectators second.
Head diving is the only one that makes sense but the rest, come on IJF! They are just useless, the belt and hair thing I see why but the judoka should be allowed to take off their belt or do up their hair if needed as many times needed to. The reverse seo why?? Unconventional grips, that rule was already a thing I’ve heard many of times of the penalising of unconventional grips so why say it again? The colar, lapel grip again it was kinda a thing and the went with all grips if you are active in throwing you won’t be penalised. Another one was continuation of techniques that was a thing already i don’t know why they have to point it out. The Judogi doesn’t make sense just make up your mind and shut up about it. The weighing times I don’t worry about as it doesn’t affect me really. The rolling counter makes 0 sense uchi mata and some other throws need this counter and now you don’t get a score in preventing it rolling over their back, it sounds like the continuation of techniques but doesn’t follow it?? The 90 degrees is stupid now u can get 2 horrible throws and win now? Judo is becoming worse and worse every time they come out these new rules or regulations. I don’t think judo will be like it was in the 90s even though there was a bit less media on it.
I've seen a lot of people here saying that they will go to BJJ due to all the banned throws. That is not a smart desition. Judo competition has problems but changing to a ruleset that allows to cowardly evade the takedown phase of the match (guard pulling) is not the solution. I do both Judo and BJJ but when I compete in BJJ even when the rules allowed me to do all the existent Judo throws my oponents put their butts on the mat in just a few seconds once the match started. Go to BJJ if you want to do more submissions but if you want to do more throws something like sambo will be a better option.
Yo de por si llegue al judo cuando ya habian eliminado los agarres de las piernas (la formas mas facil he intuitiva de derribar a una persona, independientemente del deporte del que hablemos), ahora eliminan el reverse... yo digo, la gracia no es enseñarle Judo a las nuevas generaciones y que el conocimiento pase de una a otra?... sinceramente cro que cada ves se enseña menos, el conocimiento se pierde y al menos a mi entender es contraproducente. La verdad una lastima.
Allright I can get behind that the video should be as short as possible, but will there be a written statement behind these changes? Reverse Seoi-Nage? Really? And whats up with Decision 11 regarding Judogi / Hair adjustment ONCE? U know u cant predict if the jacked will become undone or hair fixers breaks during the match right? Thats especially for woman players.
In regards to the two hand landing, penalty and score, has there ever been a situation in previous rule sets where penalty was given and score awarded for the same action? I'm obviously not referring to situations where two separate actions occurred, such as a clear score and an eye poke
So... seoi got nerfed while uchi-mata is nearly impossible to punish, at the same time grip fighting just got more messy and nonsensical while Ono's fighting style is a winner by default because the new rules say so. The reasoning behind all this: unknown. You have to love the IJF 🙄🤦♂️
Most of these are silly… I’m not even sure I follow the statement about unconventional grips. The implication there seems to be “proper judo is only done from the traditional grips” Which… definitely seems like overt regression rather than active evolution of rules to support new tactics. Also obligatory booing at the death of reverse seoi.
Neil Adam's and Marius Viser will go down in history as having destroyed Judo since 2012. We might as well go do Aikido if we want to look beautiful. This isn't judo anymore.
I'm not really involved with Judo, although I like to watch on the Olympics and the Slams and Grand Prix. My impression is that IJF is doing its best to make the general public dislike judo for been arbitrary and full on non sense. Measuring the angle of an elbow for scoring something is completely ridiculous. The amount of shidos pretty much restrict fighters strategy and make the hole thing boring.
@@Hipp0campus indeed. The previous criteria was inaccurate but fairly easy to judge, the new one is theoretically better but impossible to actually consistently judge imo.
What was wrong with so great Korean seoi nage technic????? - decision 6. Decision 5 is also not clear - not allowed to counter roll tori after his throw attempt 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ If in the direction of the attempt it would be understandable but if in opposite direction???? You guys deny defending from Uchi Mata?
@@jonlasarte9690 correct. Defending without any risk for Tori. Meaning everyone can start do unprepared false Uchi Mata having no risk to get countered
@@alexeyepifanov2684 yeah Back then there was te guruma, this uchi mata counter and the reverse seoi to counter an uchi mata specialist with heavily sided stance. Now? Nothing. You can do ura nage to someone who goes deep, but ashi uchi mata or the twisting one? I can't think about anything... If I was a teacher I would teach an uchi mata oriented game nowadays no doubt
@@jonlasarte9690 probably the meaning for the change is to increase number of impressive flying technic. But it can result in big number of low quality technic and imitation of technic
한국인을 위해 대충 정리해본 글 1. 다소 길어지는 공격상황에서 공격자의 끊김 없는 움직임 만이 득점대상 2. 절반상황1 기존 어깨 뒷면까지 닿아야 하는 득점상황에 더해서 어깨로 착지하였지만 수직(90도)으로 떨어질경우 절반 득점 (90도가 아닌 앞으로 떨어지는 경우는 제외) 3. 절반 상황2 (정확히는 모르겠음) 받기의 모든 신체가 넘어가지 않고 등의 상부(upper back)와 어깨가 함께 바닥에 닿아도 공격자의 득점으로 인정함(절반) 4. 낙법없이 양팔꿈치 또는 양손을 짚어 착지하는경우 기존 : 절반만 주어짐 변경 : 공격자 절반득점, 받기 지도하나 (부상방지 목적인듯) 5. 공격이 유효하지않았는데 공격자를 굴리면서 되치기 했을때 더이상 점수가 없음 (어떤 기술없이 되치기성으로 등을 땅에 닿게만 하는 공격류를 말하는거같음) (영상으로 이해하는게 쉬울듯) 6. 말아업어치기 금지 😢 말아업어치기하면 공격자에게 지도 7. 공격의 마지막 페이즈에서 벨트아래(하체)를 잡는것에 대한 설명 1) 하체부분에 힘을가해 기술을 완성시키는것과 별개로 마무리시 단순히 닿은것은 반칙과 무관하게 득점 2) 공격에 끊김이 발생해 굳히기 상황으로 유도했을경우 다리를 잡을 수 있음 (수정) 공격에 끊김이 발생해 굳히기 상황으로 유도했을 경우 (x) 공격에 끊김이 발생하면 굳히기 상황으로 보겠다.(정정) (이때는 굳히기상황이니 다리를 잡아도 된다고 해석하는것같음) 8. 뒷깃(lapel)과 앞깃(collar) 같이잡기 allowed if not negative(너무 반칙성?만 아니면 허용된다는 의미인듯) 9. 변칙성 그립 벨트잡기, 한쪽만 잡기, 목을 가두지않은 틀어잡기 피스톨그립, 포켓그립
I don't understand the ban of the reverse seoi nage. Ok, I wouldn't like it as uke myself since it seems a bit tricky, but I find it efficient, giving clear ippons, so it's Judo. IJF should have explained why it's dangerous so you can understand this new rule. On the opposite, I like the end of the rolling counter, which seemed very artificial, very often with no force at all in the contact.
I don't want to see it banned too. But I gotta say as Uke I always place my hand very carefully as its easy to get it trapped and twisted. I'd have banned it in youth categories probably.
Judo rules must be simple enough so that any refree can declaire the same penalty for the same consequce.(of course it must be done at the same point.)
did the ijf give any definition of what counts as a reverse seoi nage by now? the differences between reverse seoi and sode tsuri komi goshi can be somewhat fluid...
Judo by 2050: Only Ippon Seoi Nage is allowed to make the sport explosive and attractive
So many judokas head dive. Ono for example.
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Lmao....
But only if you do it it gently in case there are butterflies at the competition or you may damage their wings or feelings and newaza will be allowed as long as on the way down we whisper their appropriate pronoun's 😂
@@MiSiOtHあれはヘッドダイビングギリギリのところを攻めてる
Imagine years of training Reverse Seoinage only to be nerfed by IJF
Thats me! :)
Lmao
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glad that i prefered to train eri-seoi-nage (same side grip seoi nage) than the reverse one xd
@@erikbroman6055 i feel you men😢
With the exception of rule number 12, which really is a very dangerous situation, all the others are ridiculous!!! They're ending judo!! We are losing more and more space to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which has modernized and is much clearer to understand and much more inclusive. Jigoro Kano has always strived for excellence and that's why he created judo, including his practical and philosophical ideas and you guys are spoiling our beloved sport.
I've trained Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for a long time and have only dabbled in judo, but I've always had the most immense respect for your sport. However, the more refine and specific and arcane the rules become, the harder it becomes to respect judo. I understand the IJF wants to keep it spectator friendly, but from the outside, judo seems to become more and more specific and less related to actually being able to practical usage, and more related to some kind of very specific 'vision' of what an ideal throw looks like.
BJJ easy to understand? only for those who practice... Jigoro Kano himself always excluded dangerous techniques and changed the competitive rules several times...
@@ricardokerscher not like this. Don't do that to the memory of Kano. These rule changes are ridiculous. We already have a completely unnecessary ban on leg grabs which every other grappling sport allows.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq
Did you exclude Greco-Roman wrestling from grappling sports? Because there you are not only prohibited from grabbing opponents legs, but ALL leg techniques (ashiwaza) are banned, i.e no sweeps, tai-otoshi, uchimata, harai or hane goshi etc.
@@deffinitely4274 I did. In the U.S. we do folkstyle wrestling. That's what I did in high-school anyway.
Reverse seoinage 😰
IJF Ridicolous once again…
Thats bullshit
Pissed me off not even an explanation, just “no score and shido”.. they said rule changes are for media and watchers, what about the players, plus it looks cool anyways 😂
Reverse seoi nage ist a nice throw. I do not understand why it shout be illegal. The ijf Rules sucks (again)
Never liked the throw
One of the best BJJ promotional videos I've ever seen. Good stuff IJF.
Never...
🤣
Nah haha
Exactly! I tell students, "Do you realize that you can do more Judo throws in a BJJ than in Judo match?"
@@masterartform this is no make any sense
My complaints:
---The ban of the reverse seoi nage is a complete non sense in and of itself. But furthermore, are the referees really gonna be able to tell the difference between a reverse seoinage and a missed sode tsuri komi goshi? Often times the difference is subtle, especially with drop throws.
---Are you really gonna give no score to that Uchi-mata counter attack? Then what risk am i really taking when committing to an uchi-mata? At best i am gonna get a score and in the worst case scenario i will only have to defend myself on the ground.
---This is a minor complaint but: how many times are you going to change the requirements for a fit judogi? Just do an effective study already and set for the correct lengths and measures once and for all.
Sorry for the rant and bitterness but i felt like expressing my honest opinions.
With the uchi-mata, are you referring to 12:45 - "Rollover counter techniques"? To my understanding, this doesn't apply to uchi mata sukashi, just these rollover 'counters' (faux counters imo). I think this is a good rule. Committing to an uchi-mata is a risk for several other reasons too, mainly ending up in a bad position for ne-waza, which now has much more room in the competitions than some time back.
Idk about the reasoning for reverse seoi, except it being an ugly technique :)).
@@martinkorecek9816 I am referring to that point indeed. For the sukashi you would have to anticipate the uchi mata to perfom it and step out of the attack. If the attacker manages to put his leg between yours, your only option to counter it would now be to do an ura nage (if my understanding of the rule is correct btw), which is not really viable if the attacker has fully commited forward with the uchi-mata.
That been said, if you consider roll over counters as "faux counters" i cannot really convince you to think otherwise.
Lastly, if we were to ban all the ugly techniques based on personal preferences, we would be maybe left with two or three allowed techniques, which i think is all but beneficial to the sport:
Judo is beautiful because you can practice it in a variety of ways. (imo, of course)
@@abelitomerino You don't have to anticipate uchi-mata for a good counter, like one of this year's highlights: th-cam.com/video/OPDQIC5rPvE/w-d-xo.html.
And by saying that reverse seoi is ugly, I'm not saying that rule is right. I'll have to yet look into why it's disallowed.
@@martinkorecek9816 yes you are right, but i think we can agree that the counter shown in the video is very spectacular and kind of an outlier. In most situations you' re stuck with tori's leg between yours, and i think you should be allowed to perform a kaeshi (which maybe you are as long as you don't roll over: again this is where my understanding of Neil Adams' words could be lacking). Anyway, thank you for discussing with me.
You said everything. Seoi nage is complete nonsense. Imagine how its gonna be for koreans, Japanese and everyone who is practicing that technique. I am telling you people will transfer to bjj because sport is evolving and doesn't have every year more ridiculous rules.
Not gonna lie some of these new rules are completely nonsense.
6:10 - Continuation Of Techniques
8:17 - Waza-ari Landing 1
10:51 - Waza-ari Landing 2
11:33 - Landing On Elbows Or Hands
12:45 - Rollover Counter Techniques
14:20 - Reverse Seoi Nage
15:05 - Gripping Under The Belt In The End Phase
16:47 - Lapel And Collar Grip
17:40 - Unconventional
18:20 - Gripping Breaking Penalties
19:00 - Arranging of the Judogi And Hair
20:20 - Head Diving
Thanks buddy
Doing the lord's work!
As a competitor and coach, I was looking forward to a video explaining the reasoning behind the rules. I know and watch enough videos to spot examples, why is the reasoning inaccessible? IJF, what do I need to read or watch to understand the reasoning?
Add my signature under this post as well 🎩
Need answers
Jumping arm bars, korean seoi, rolling counters, leg grabs, standing armlocks, "gerbi choke", "unorhodox" grips... what else? List is long. Banning techniques is not way to go. There are many judo techniques we dont see anymore and its killing judo from evolving.
I think they want two people swapping uchi mata attempts the entire match
I couldn't agree more. I quit judo because of that.
each time there are more prohibitions, let's make a contactless sport like aikido, prohibit the most spectacular technique in judo, we need to think of doing it. Need to make a petition, or circulate the hashtag #BackReverseSeioNage
This is why after over a decade of Judo, I moved over to BJJ. I stopped 5 years ago because of what was happening to the sport, and then I see this video come up on my feed and knew that I made the right decision. Judo was simple when I started as a kid. Use good technique to get an opponent to the ground and either pin or submit them and if you were passive, you got a penalty. Honestly I don't think I could come back to Judo as I would just be penalised for anything I did which is such a shame as I fell in love with the sport all those years ago. Judo will gradually die out with how the IJF handle the sport
These guys have fucked up judo so much. “To make to sport more attractive to watch,…” they’ve done the complete opposite. They made it more complex and boring to watch. Who tf comes up with these new rules all the time?!
In an attempt to make it look more attractive to people who doesn't practice judo they've made it less attractive to people who actually does... that's truly fucked up!
IJF is ridicolous. Why doin this shaming this great sport!
-Reverse seoi nage complete nonsense, failed sode is much more dangerous
-judogi measurements are every year different its really ridiculous
- ruining the sport, more people will transfer to brazilian jiu jitsu because sport is evolving
Judo in 2022: you can only look at your opponent because if you touch him he could get hurt
😂😂
Atleast it would make sense
I would like to know the reason for penalizing reverse seoi nage as would a lot of the viewers, because it seems as a just plain stupid decision.
How democratic is Judo? Who are they to decide? What about the vast majority of judoka that have nothing to say about that? Who is judo for? Is it for the elites or for millions of judoka all over the world? Or is it for some PR people that dictate what they want? Removing possibilities to score makes our sport even more boring, we've seen it at the Tokyo Olympics, watching judo is almost as boring as watching football. This development started in 2009 with the ban of leg grabs.
They want us to go BJJ.
In an ideal world people would treat sport judo/olympic judo with the contempt it deserves. As you say, is it all about a hundred or two elite players or is it about the millions who practice worldwide? Clubs need to be stronger and refuse to follow this crap, like the leg grabs. Why not do it in your club? Or any other safe throw? Olympic judo is deathly boring. It has far too big an impact in the judo world than it should.
I was hoping for leg grips and throws being allowed again, but again Judo is the only martial art that removes techniques instead of adding and innovating. I miss doing kata guruma...
One day man, one day
What is the justification behind the disallowing of reverse seoinl nage getting a score?
Probably it could be dangerous in a ken kayotzu situation for uke's elbow, but I'm not sure
It's because Korea is doing very well in Judo, thus they want to kill any Korean techniques. Same reason they banned the very "western" leg grabs.
@@SeanWinters korea isnt doing very well lol
@@SeanWinters I agree
Pussification of judo
The ban on reverse Seo is upsetting
About Decision # 6: I can't understand why the IJF has banned the Reverse Seoinage. They should explain, give a logical reason and a clear answer, what criteria has been used to penalize it? The statistics do not show that it is a dangerous technique. There are no reasonable statistics to support this decision, judokas are not injured (both when applying it and when being thrown).
Since Judo was created, Morote gari existed and up to 8 years before the Beijing Olympic Games, the leg grip became very popular as a very effective form of throwing, most countries used it and won many gold medals. With this, after Beijing it was banned and with it its variants disappeared (Kata guruma, kuchiki taoishi, kubisu gaeshi and others), the IJF said that the Morote Gari and Kata guruma was very confused with the launches of wrestling and Sambo and was lost the judo part, I remember that was the explanation. Many years ago (since the 70s) the Kani-Basami (flying scissors) had already been banned because it could spoil the legs of the uke, there was even a very popular case in Japan in the 80s that involved Saito and Yamashita (who was injured)....But to ban and penalize Reverse Soinage, it seems to me that it does not make sense, an explanation with credible statistics and easy to verify is necessary.
I have been injured because os KOREAN SEOI (wrist) but i wouñd never ban it like these pussies are doing
Agreed. If you look at Decision 1, you get lots of commentary so you can understand what is legal and what is not. They should have followed their own script from the same video in terms of explanation.
I raised a big stink years ago when they banned leg grabs and I remember judo colleagues of mine stating that it wasn't quite a big deal since most would sprawl to prevent the ippon anyway. I stated that if we accepted them watering down some rules than the IJF would just keep watering them down until they eventually took away something that even my colleagues liked. I wish I was wrong but "I told you so" doesn't feel good to say in any way. They're pushing more and more people to BJJ.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq Completely agree with you!
I like when they say this groups of grips are not traditional but leg grabbing used to be traditional and they no longer allow it anymore
Then they say they want to "modernize judo" yet the Korean seoi a modern technique removed, the first rule is aids . So now even if you are driving on them you don't get an ippon even if they get their damn back to the mat, no counter uchi mata how dare you want to a legit strat to counter a throw. With no justifications at all.
@@rahadt904 you do get it if ur driving in a continous motion. only if u drive then stop then drive again u wont get it
Sometimes the IJF makes me not want to do Judo anymore.
Killing innovation in the sport.
I don't think you understand innovation
@@jrmbayne so explain how the rule changes and the banning of non traditional techniques advances judo and appeals to a new audience? Innovation is about accepting new ideas and methods to advance the sport not surpressing it. I am allowed my opinion and as with many others feel the latest changes especially around reverse seoi nage is a negative move.
@@nathanyoung8058 you are correct, the definition of innovation is to create or introduce new ideas, and IJF has not banned anyone from doing that, in fact, the rules that they are now enforcing have created many new techniques over the last decade, and even made some lost techniques viable again.
And I guarantee you, innovation to adapt and be effective in this new rule set will continue to be prevalent., I did not say that their decision to ban reverse seoi was correct, And you should not infer that.
But I can tell you that taking away leg grabs created one of the greatest periods of innovation that Judo has seen in a long time.
As this new ban will also do, it is not a good thing, but they are not killing innovation by any stretch.
@@jrmbayne taking away leg grabs just sent people to train in bjj veey smart decision
@@oneguy7202 you got the numbers on that? Internationally, Judo is more popular than ever and has larger financial prices for placing than it ever had in the past.
Is there somewhere to read the reasonings for the new decisions? Specifically the reverse seoi, and shido for not falling flat on the back.
Reverse seoi isn't an unstoppable, foolproof way of winning every match, there is clear and obvious counterplay and a risk to throwers own hands, so it seems reasonable to keep.
Applying a shido for stopping an ippon seems strange as well. Uke is already giving away a score via waza-ari - why penalize them as well?
I like the gripping changes, and the weigh in times.
Reason is Japan
Agreed
@@JuanPadilla376 Why?
@@oioioiw4365 same reason they removed leg grab
@@JuanPadilla376 but Japan doesn't make the rules, IJF took over judo from Japan and now they makes the rules. I don't understand why you are saying reason is Japan.
So now basically, if you do bad judo throwing yourself in a bad attack like low makikomi is more attractive than a standing Reverse seoi nage? Why advantage those who dive down to make opponents look passive? I really don’t get the point in limitings techniques and Judoka’s creativity… IJF IS EVIL.
Confusing rules. I can predict most of the fights will be decided on video analysis. Shame on you IJF 😔
Clear reasons why ijf should not hold power over the teachings of judo. And more reasons why more alternative federations and groups of judo should compete for attention of traditional judo teachings in their own tournament styles.
I can understand the reasoning behind some of the rules but some of them clearly have no discernible reason for the change. Looking forward to the reason for the reverse seio-nage ban.
6:10技の継続について
8:17どのように着くのが技ありか1
10:51どのように着くのが技ありか2
11:33投げられたあと手をついたり肘をついたりするとお尻と手しか畳についていないけど技あり＆指導
12:45内股等のめくりはノースコア
14:20韓国背負いはノースコア＆指導
15:05技のおわりには帯より下を握ってもよい
16:47背部や両襟で頭を潰されても指導にならない
17:40片襟、クロスグリップ、ピストルグリップ、ポケットグリップ等は攻撃の瞬間のみ認める
18:20釣り手(襟)を切ると指導、引き手(袖)はセーフ？
19:00待ての間に道着と髪を直さなければ指導
20:20ヘッドダイビング反則負け
"We want to make judo more attractive, that's why we are banning reverse seoi nage" 😑
A bunch of bureaucrats are killing judo. You mustn't hide behind Jigoro Kano's images because your ijf judo is a pale shadow of his judo!
If i had a company that in each four years they changing the path of the firm they would be fire on the spot.
To much incompetence always changing the rules and to worst.
Soccer had is rules almost unchanged for more than 100 years.
Не зря Ан Чангрим бросил дзюдо🤦🏻♂️
Новые правила портят всю историю дзюдо.
Остаётся только поставить свечку за тех, у кого обратная спина была коронным приёмом.
Decisão da FIJ
Decisão 1: Técnicas contínuas - 6:13
Decisão 2, 3 e 4: Waza-ari (o que é e o que não é + shidô) - 8:16 - 11:30
Decisão 5: Revertida - 12:43
Decisão 6: Seoi reverso - 14:17
Decisão 7: Ne-waza (ou não) - 15:04
Decisão 8 e 9: Kumi-kata - 16:45 - 18:18
Decisão 10: Briga de pegada - 18:19
Decisão 11: Arrumar Judogui e amarrar cabelo - 18:59
Decisão 12: Apoio da cabeça p/ técnica - 20:18
Je comprend pas pourquoi interdire les reverse soei nage. Ces techniques font partie de l’ADN du style de judo de plusieurs personnes, je pense notamment aux koréens. Surtout qu’aux fils, le reverse est devenu l’une des plus belles techniques à voir et est devenu très populaire chez jeunes. La vidéo ne nous explique nullement pourquoi l’interdire. Et je ne parle même pas des contre de uchi-mata qui sont l’une des meilleures punitions dans le monde du judo
ça en devient risible ...; je suis dépité
Décision 5 : Tu peux toujours contrer uchi-mata tant que tu ne t'ecroules pas derrière l'attaquant pour le retourner. L'objectif est d'assurer que le contre est bien basé sur un contrôle du contre-attaquant.
Décision 6 : Le reverse soei nage ne méritait pas un Shido.. S'il y a un risque important de blessure, ils pouvaient simplement l'interdire sans punir.
@@AP-yt2rw moi j'ai compris que contre uchi mata ne marque pas
@@benjamingaillard8661 ca peut porter à confusion mais Neil Adams le décrit comme ça, à clarifier.
C’est devenu n’importe quoi
Enlever les revers soei nage
+un shido…..
Peux mieux faire…..
Congratulations, IJF! You guys are killing Judo. We can't do motore gari anymore, we can't do te guruma, anymore. Now this! YOU GUYS ARE KILLING JUDO!
SPORT judo... Judo is much more...
@@ricardokerscher I disagree! Judo must doesn't have division! Judo is just one and unique!
@@wcolatino Yes. there is.
There is 3 levels of judo:
Basic (下), intermediate (中) and advanced (上). And the purpose of judo training consists of:
"judo physical education method",
柔道体育法
"judo competition method",
柔道勝負法
and "judo intelectual em moral training method"
柔道修心法
According Jigoro Kano himself.
Not a single positive comment about IJF.
We should boycott their broadcasts.
Some rules do make sense, but there are others that I personally don't see their purpose.
IJF is making judo attractive to watch for non-Judokas but non-attractive for judokas
How is taking Reverse Seoi out making it more atractive to watch?
How can judo be atractive for non judokas if each 4 years they change thecrules, non judokas will stop to understand the rules and they have to learn again. How many non judokas you will think that going to read this new rules?
@@reymysterio13__50 that's my point, it isn't. Removing reverse seoi-nage is the rule I desagree the most
@@hugoviegas1292 I agree with you as it makes no sense. If a judoka is a competitor, he/she has to adapt to the new rules
Nobody outside grappling world watch judo because is boring
I stopped training judo in 2006. Today's judo doesn't have much in common with the traditional judo I knew. That all changed in 2012, when the IjF federation introduced dramatic laws prohibiting grabbing legs in a stand-up collar. (Morote gari, Te guruma, etc.) This was to help the Japanese, who had problems defending these techniques. And then I thought that it is impossible to spoil my beloved discipline more... Politics is even in sports
Help the Japanase? come on man,check the Japan's number of gold medals in World championships and at the Olympics before 2012,you will get a surprise.
Yeah, a simple Google search would refute that statement. The Japanese won medals back then and continue to today. They definitely don't need help lol
Unfortunately it seems to be mainly things being taken away again. This time it’s the reverse seionage. What is next?
No counter uchi mata 🤯🤯🤯
or haraigoshi with kosotogari
The majority of the new rules are ridiculous and useless. What is the problem with reverse seoi-nage?
IFJ Referee Commission
Decision 1. Continuation Of Techniques - 6:13
Decision 2. Waza-ari Landing 1 - 8:16
Decision 3. Waza-ari Landing 2 - 10:47
Decision 4. Landing On Elbows Or Hands - 11:32
Decision 5. Rollover Counter Techniques - 12:43
Decision 6. Reverse Seoi Nage - 14:17
Decision 7. Gripping Under The Belt In The End Phase - 15:04
Decision 8. Lapel & Collar Grip - 16:45
Decision 9. Unconventional Grips - 17:37
Decision 10. Gripping Breaking Penalties - 18:19
Decision 11. Arranging of the Judogui or Hair - 18:59
Decision 12. Head Diving - 20:18
no reverse seoi nage?? IJF you should clarify the reason why you changed the rule.
I miss the old throws involving leg grabs. :(
Dear IJF, we, the majority of the practitioners, want our old judo back.
These New rules Just kill the judoka spirit inside the millions of athletes around the world, you can't just change the traditional rules just besause your ambitions, so disappointed
reverse seoi nage ruling with absolutely no explanation, sounds about right
IJF is killing the sport I love 😪
More than feeling personally attacked, I feel like the judo as a whole is loosing it's roots gradually. I can understand that a sport needs to evolve (even more when it comes to regulate real danger) but saying that you change the rules for medias is inexcusable to me. We don't need fights to look like a kata demonstration and killing creativity will lead to less dynamic to me. I really fell in love with this sport 10 years ago and I'm feeling like it's not the same anymore. It really makes me sad.
What about the Sode-Techniques, especially in the sometimes assimilated style of Hashimoto? There would be kind if evidence for injuries and Uke is often not able to react properly...from the first kind of view, not too much sense can be found in the actual changes...
I do not agree here. Sode with one hand like Koga and Hashimoto if done right is a great throw. The question is: can we drive it with the hand just like makikomi in the end phase?
Spot on fella. I love Hashimoto but the way he forces his sode entry is clearly dangerous for the elbow and for the head of the opponent, which get forced into a head dive against his will.
Yet, they banned reverse seoi.
The nonsense is huge.
Parem de querer limitar o judô a todo custo! Vocês estão destruindo uma arte marcial completa! PÉSSIMA FEDERAÇÃO
Ninguém está destruindo arte marcial nenhuma. São apenas regras para uma parte do judô, a parte esportiva...
@@ricardokerscher Sim, mas hoje em dia a grande maioria das academias de judô treinam segundo as regras olímpicas....Hoje em dia, já foi em algum treino de judô que poderia pegar na perna? Fazer Kani Bassami... Pode ser até que sim, mas na maioria das vezes, não.
A IFJ dita, infelizmente, o Judô como um todo, outra prova disso é a escassez de treinos em Ne-Waza... Infelizmente, mas é a realidade.
@@thiagodoca aí a culpa é da academia, de seus professores... O Judô está aí pra ser estudado e aprofundado... Se a maioria segue as regraa da IJF, ficar reclamando nas redes sociais é que não vai mudar nada...
@@ricardokerscher A teoria é linda, na prática isso não acontece. A IFJ dita o que o Judô vai fazer, e não adianta, se um professor quer que os alunos participem de uma competição, eles devem treinar segundo as regras. Isso limita o judô como um todo, são raríssimas as academias que não vão em Shiai. Até as tradicionais vão.
@@ricardokerscher E além disso, essas competições limitam o judô também como um esporte. Faz tal pegada: Shido, tal golpe: Shido, tal movimentação: Shido....e lógico que não sou contra isso, mas cada vez mais estão se limitando, limitando golpes, ações, pegadas.. dizer q isso não afeta a parte "não esportiva" do judô é tapar o sol com peneira.
Head diving was already banned but shohei was never penalozed
never. And that was bullsh*t. They never penalized Inoue back in the day for doing it either and it was illegal then too.
@@judomachine how many times has Orujov been robbed...now they nerfed the reverse seoi, and even made uchimata more powerful by not scoring the best counter against uchimata, guess i will start forcing head diving against uchimata players🤷,
If it continues like this, BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) will be accepted by more people than Judo, IJF
Already is...at lease here in the US. The rise of the UFC brought BJJ schools all over the place. There is two schools 5 minutes of my house but I drive 1 hour each way to do Judo with my son 3-4 times a week its a shame...
@@techdecodednews well judo was never big in the us to begin with. A more realistic example would be if this was happening in european countries for eg
@@somea6706 good point
Dear judo family we will do with Your favorite discipline whatever we wont and we dont care what you think about it. We know better and You can only seat and clap your hands.
And seriously You making changes in rules so often and so ridiculous that Youare killing judo and its popularity. Same judokas had made a lot of houres to do reverse seoinage perfectly and You trowing their work to garbage. There its a lot if criticism in comments below and below your fb post and You dont respond. This is your respect? Its realy sad. You are sad people.
Judo fan.
Kani basami had a legitimate reason for banning: lots of knees were injured when the thrower pulled the weight of uke on one leg resulting the "scissoring" of the knee. You can see and hear this on camera in the Yamashita vs Endo fight in the all Japan a long time ago.
Reverse Seoi nage however doesn't really cause injuries I've literally never seen an injury occur in competition Judo where the reason was reverse seoi nage therefore the ban is completely unreasonable and counterproductive to their goal of making Judo more appealing to spectators as the reverse seoi nage is one of the most flashy throws out there few people can perform
i know right? to be honest i dont agree with the counters to and the arranging judogi is kinda stupid like what if youre judogi is all over the place and you have 2 shidos you should just let it be? how is that fair i understand getting shido for wasting time for that but sometimes arranging is needed
Yeah the shidos for me is way to over the top and just like banning reverse seoi nage it will make the sport uglier rather than more appealing.
@@justarandomsleepingredpand7324 yep it will become shido war with less techniques and so many shidos.. well even for some1 like me who love the sport it will be boring to watch hope they will change it somehow
@@yogevtmax4816 I really hope so. The sport has such amazing roots and history so it's really disappointing to see all of these rules making it less and less fun and exciting for players specifically cause in the end it should be players first and spectators second.
RIP Korean Judo 😢
This is no longer judo, but a kindergarten🤦♂️
Head diving is the only one that makes sense but the rest, come on IJF! They are just useless, the belt and hair thing I see why but the judoka should be allowed to take off their belt or do up their hair if needed as many times needed to. The reverse seo why?? Unconventional grips, that rule was already a thing I’ve heard many of times of the penalising of unconventional grips so why say it again? The colar, lapel grip again it was kinda a thing and the went with all grips if you are active in throwing you won’t be penalised. Another one was continuation of techniques that was a thing already i don’t know why they have to point it out. The Judogi doesn’t make sense just make up your mind and shut up about it. The weighing times I don’t worry about as it doesn’t affect me really. The rolling counter makes 0 sense uchi mata and some other throws need this counter and now you don’t get a score in preventing it rolling over their back, it sounds like the continuation of techniques but doesn’t follow it?? The 90 degrees is stupid now u can get 2 horrible throws and win now? Judo is becoming worse and worse every time they come out these new rules or regulations. I don’t think judo will be like it was in the 90s even though there was a bit less media on it.
I’m a 40 years old bjj black belt and just starting judo. I think every bjj guy should enjoy a judo gym and every judo guy should enjoy a bjj gym.
I just started practicing Judo, but I knew this comment section would be fun lol 🤣
I've seen a lot of people here saying that they will go to BJJ due to all the banned throws. That is not a smart desition.
Judo competition has problems but changing to a ruleset that allows to cowardly evade the takedown phase of the match (guard pulling) is not the solution.
I do both Judo and BJJ but when I compete in BJJ even when the rules allowed me to do all the existent Judo throws my oponents put their butts on the mat in just a few seconds once the match started.
Go to BJJ if you want to do more submissions but if you want to do more throws something like sambo will be a better option.
Yo de por si llegue al judo cuando ya habian eliminado los agarres de las piernas (la formas mas facil he intuitiva de derribar a una persona, independientemente del deporte del que hablemos), ahora eliminan el reverse... yo digo, la gracia no es enseñarle Judo a las nuevas generaciones y que el conocimiento pase de una a otra?... sinceramente cro que cada ves se enseña menos, el conocimiento se pierde y al menos a mi entender es contraproducente.
La verdad una lastima.
so this is why youtube removed dislike counts
The ban on reverse seoi nage is outrageous and stupid.
Allright I can get behind that the video should be as short as possible, but will there be a written statement behind these changes?
Reverse Seoi-Nage? Really?
And whats up with Decision 11 regarding Judogi / Hair adjustment ONCE? U know u cant predict if the jacked will become undone or hair fixers breaks during the match right? Thats especially for woman players.
I agree, but I think they mean if you open the belt and rewrap it....I think if you just shove the gi in, that wont count
@@supablitz I think you’re right. They didn’t explain that part adequately.
I think it's stupid to penalize arranging the judogi. So now all I have to do is pull up my opponents gi and he is getting penalized afterwards
Reverse seoi is cool and effective. Unnecessary ban
Taking out reverse Seoinage is complete garbage.
In regards to the two hand landing, penalty and score, has there ever been a situation in previous rule sets where penalty was given and score awarded for the same action?
I'm obviously not referring to situations where two separate actions occurred, such as a clear score and an eye poke
I do seoi nage and my opponent goes on the other side what I suppose to do. Pls someone answer
So... seoi got nerfed while uchi-mata is nearly impossible to punish, at the same time grip fighting just got more messy and nonsensical while Ono's fighting style is a winner by default because the new rules say so.
The reasoning behind all this: unknown.
You have to love the IJF 🙄🤦♂️
Most of these are silly… I’m not even sure I follow the statement about unconventional grips. The implication there seems to be “proper judo is only done from the traditional grips”
Which… definitely seems like overt regression rather than active evolution of rules to support new tactics. Also obligatory booing at the death of reverse seoi.
Neil Adam's and Marius Viser will go down in history as having destroyed Judo since 2012. We might as well go do Aikido if we want to look beautiful. This isn't judo anymore.
Neither of the people you mention are part of the Rule making commission…
What an utter disappointment! Can wait for seminar to hear reasoning behind this desisions. The one about reverse seoinage above all else!
We need 2004 rule
I wonder how many fights will end because somebody s jacket or hair is loose. Guess that will be the end of golden score ... ??
I'm not really involved with Judo, although I like to watch on the Olympics and the Slams and Grand Prix. My impression is that IJF is doing its best to make the general public dislike judo for been arbitrary and full on non sense. Measuring the angle of an elbow for scoring something is completely ridiculous. The amount of shidos pretty much restrict fighters strategy and make the hole thing boring.
they got rid of measuring the elbow angle with the new rules. They now measure the hip-shoulder angle. You can decide if this is any less ridiculous.
@@Hipp0campus indeed. The previous criteria was inaccurate but fairly easy to judge, the new one is theoretically better but impossible to actually consistently judge imo.
What was wrong with so great Korean seoi nage technic????? - decision 6. Decision 5 is also not clear - not allowed to counter roll tori after his throw attempt 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ If in the direction of the attempt it would be understandable but if in opposite direction???? You guys deny defending from Uchi Mata?
You can defend it, but no score given.
@@jonlasarte9690 correct. Defending without any risk for Tori. Meaning everyone can start do unprepared false Uchi Mata having no risk to get countered
@@alexeyepifanov2684 yeah
Back then there was te guruma, this uchi mata counter and the reverse seoi to counter an uchi mata specialist with heavily sided stance.
Now? Nothing.
You can do ura nage to someone who goes deep, but ashi uchi mata or the twisting one? I can't think about anything...
If I was a teacher I would teach an uchi mata oriented game nowadays no doubt
@@jonlasarte9690 probably the meaning for the change is to increase number of impressive flying technic. But it can result in big number of low quality technic and imitation of technic
Can we stop removing things from judo ?
한국인을 위해 대충 정리해본 글
1. 다소 길어지는 공격상황에서 공격자의 끊김 없는 움직임 만이 득점대상
2. 절반상황1
기존 어깨 뒷면까지 닿아야 하는 득점상황에 더해서 어깨로 착지하였지만 수직(90도)으로 떨어질경우 절반 득점
(90도가 아닌 앞으로 떨어지는 경우는 제외)
3. 절반 상황2
(정확히는 모르겠음) 받기의 모든 신체가 넘어가지 않고 등의 상부(upper back)와 어깨가 함께 바닥에 닿아도 공격자의 득점으로 인정함(절반)
4. 낙법없이 양팔꿈치 또는 양손을 짚어 착지하는경우
기존 : 절반만 주어짐
변경 : 공격자 절반득점, 받기 지도하나
(부상방지 목적인듯)
5. 공격이 유효하지않았는데 공격자를 굴리면서 되치기 했을때 더이상 점수가 없음
(어떤 기술없이 되치기성으로 등을 땅에 닿게만 하는 공격류를 말하는거같음)
(영상으로 이해하는게 쉬울듯)
6. 말아업어치기 금지 😢
말아업어치기하면 공격자에게 지도
7. 공격의 마지막 페이즈에서 벨트아래(하체)를 잡는것에 대한 설명
1) 하체부분에 힘을가해 기술을 완성시키는것과 별개로 마무리시 단순히 닿은것은 반칙과 무관하게 득점
2) 공격에 끊김이 발생해 굳히기 상황으로 유도했을경우 다리를 잡을 수 있음
(수정)
공격에 끊김이 발생해 굳히기 상황으로 유도했을 경우 (x)
공격에 끊김이 발생하면 굳히기 상황으로 보겠다.(정정) (이때는 굳히기상황이니 다리를 잡아도 된다고 해석하는것같음)
8. 뒷깃(lapel)과 앞깃(collar) 같이잡기
allowed if not negative(너무 반칙성?만 아니면 허용된다는 의미인듯)
9. 변칙성 그립
벨트잡기, 한쪽만 잡기, 목을 가두지않은 틀어잡기
피스톨그립, 포켓그립
감사합니다!🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️
Спасибо
Keep killing Judo IJF, you are doing a superb job!
Cool, killing the sport even more. Well done!
Thank you IJF for destroying judo. Going all BJJ now.
Why shido for reverse seoi nage? Why shido for my judogi being pulled out by the opponent? Ridiculous ...
Reverse seoi nage😠😠😠
Pourquoi annuler les reverse seoi nage 😕
IJF is so successful in making Judo worse
"its best form" - FFS!
IJF 2025= "YOU CAN ONLY SCORE THROUGH TRADITIONAL UCHIMATA!".
Taking oit the reverse seo nagi is sad.. and what about bridging?
Oh my God. More rules
I don't understand the ban of the reverse seoi nage. Ok, I wouldn't like it as uke myself since it seems a bit tricky, but I find it efficient, giving clear ippons, so it's Judo. IJF should have explained why it's dangerous so you can understand this new rule.
On the opposite, I like the end of the rolling counter, which seemed very artificial, very often with no force at all in the contact.
I don't want to see it banned too. But I gotta say as Uke I always place my hand very carefully as its easy to get it trapped and twisted. I'd have banned it in youth categories probably.
After four weeks i have to say: This video raises more questions than it gives answers.
You can see that in the commentaries below -.-
In short.... IJF continue to destroy judo.
I just cant believe how cheap a wazari is now. Is it still 2 wazari for ippon
Judo rules must be simple enough so that any refree can declaire the same penalty for the same consequce.(of course it must be done at the same point.)
You are killing judô.
did the ijf give any definition of what counts as a reverse seoi nage by now? the differences between reverse seoi and sode tsuri komi goshi can be somewhat fluid...
It's stupid! You destroy judo sports