a 15 year old trainee that goes from a low tone rap (and full of swag) to hitting high notes? her voice spectrum and her control is insane, I have to stan lol😳✨
YG is the safest place to debut a kid. They actually care about keeping kids as kids. I know minzy was lonely because she debuted that young with older girls but Minzy wasnt as sexualized as other idols who debut that young. Minors or Treasure are also very visibly sheltered way more than other agency minors.
Not going to speak for other ent agency, but for YG, GD debuted as a rapper when he was 13, Seungri was 16 when he debuted in Bigbang, Minzy debuted with 2NE1 when she was 14, Chanwoo debuted with iKON when he was 16, Suhyun debuted with her brother as AKMU when she was 15, then there are Haruto, JeongWoo and Junghwan in Treasure. Those are their debut age, not including when they started their career in the entertainment industry as child actor or join TV/competition program. If you can start practicing for spelling bee when you were six years old, why not with dancing? Most professional ballet dancer started proper training before they were 10 years old. What about those young CEOs who started their company before they reached 16 years old? Talent, passion and dream has no age boundaries. Don't judge, criticize, and crush someone's dream just because they're deemed as not old enough to do so. And if you watched YG Treasure Box, these middle-schoolers or younger still went to school, and they received different types of training than older trainees. They are blowing air with a straw into water bottle instead of forcing them belting their notes, they learned rapping like they were learning alphabet song in a fun way. They trained hard for their dream. They could give up and pull out like Midam and YG will just let them go as they wish. Don't compare them with a thirteen years old tweeting some nonsense while laying down on their bed. And don't say "manufactured", they weren't molded like a barbie. They were being pushed to let out their best potential, whatever that is. Be it rapping, singing, dancing, or acting. If you have potential for three at a time, then why not?
@@JoaoVictor-me8fq (1) A minor under the age of 15 (including any minor under the age of 18 who attends a middle school under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act) shall not be employed at any work: Provided, That this shall not apply to a person with an employment permit certificate issued by the Minister of Employment and Labor according to the standards prescribed by Presidential Decree. (2) An employment permit certificate referred to in paragraph (1) may be issued only by designating the kind of work at the request of the relevant minor himself or herself, to the extent it does not impede with the compulsory education. (3) If a person obtains the employment permit certificate provided for in the proviso of paragraph (1) in any false or other wrongful manner, the Minister of Employment and Labor shall revoke the permit. *(Article 64 (Minimum Age and Employment Permit Certificate), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021) ---------- For each minor employee under the age of 18, the employer shall keep at his or her workplace a certificate of family relationships records verifying the minor's age and a written consent of the person with parent authority or the guardian. *(Article 66 (Minor Certificate), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021) ---------- The work hours of a person aged between 15 and less than 18 shall not exceed seven hours per day and 35 hours per week: Provided, That the work hours may only be extended by up to one hour per day and five hours per week by a mutual agreement between the parties concerned. *(Article 69 (Work Hours), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021) ---------- (2) An employer shall not have pregnant women and women who have given birth and those under 18 years old work during the time from 10:00 pm to 6:00 am and on holidays: Provided, That this shall not apply to any of the following cases where approval of the Minister of Employment and Labor is obtained: 1. Where there exists a consent of those under 18 years old; 2. Where there exists a consent of women for whom one year has not passed after childbirth; 3. Where a woman in pregnancy makes a clear request. (3) Before obtaining the approval of the Minister of Employment and Labor in the case of paragraph (2), an employer shall make a faithful consultation with the representative of employees of the relevant business or workplace on whether to execute it, its methods, etc., in order to protect the employees' health and maternity. *(Article 70 (Restrictions on Night Work and Holiday Work), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021) ---------- In short, don't worry about child labor. It's already written in Korean Law. Again, not going to speak for other ent agency, but from Bigbang to Treasure, minors in YG still attend compulsory education after they debut, even non-minors still attend college (at their own will). Treasure's maknae (minor) didn't attend sendoff event on their own concert because it happened after 10PM local time (Japan), and was absent during Music Awards closing ceremony because of the same curfew stated by Korean Law and respected country's law. Their well-being as children are well taken care of. Besides in-house gym and professional gym trainers to ensure their growth and physical health as children are well maintained, YG also provides therapist to help them with their mental health as children (even when they are still a trainee, provided the said trainee or artists give their consent for the service).
@@Glastika86 you must be completely naive if you actually think this is how it works. These idols literally spent most of the hours of their day at the company and what qualities as “working hours” becomes not that clear. If we took in consideration foreign children like Chikita it becomes even worse cause I doubt Korea’s jurisdiction will care about how many hours she spent getting “educated” at the company. A lot of idols who debuted this early have been vocal about how damaging it was for their mental health both in korea and internationally (Disney child actors). The emotional tool this cruel industry takes on these kids will only be noticed years down the line when it’s too late.
The thig with YG is: Rarely you see a trainee with little time AS A TRAINEE debuting in their groups. TREASURE as an exemple, some members had little time of training in the survive show YG Treasure Box, but the group debuted like 2 year after the show so they had at least 2 andhalf years of training. BIGBANG, Winner, 2NE1, Ikon, BLACKPINK, TREASURE and now BABYMONSTERS, the member train at least 4 years, thats why you see alot of polished idols since debut from YG, a bunch of agencys debut the member with less then 1 year of training and thats why today we have a bunch of LipSync.
Actually Dezzy…..it’s a norm To debut as young as 14-15…..Nothing new heck Boa made her debut in early 2000’s at 13 (she’s the youngest as far as I know)/ F(x) Krystal at 14, Taemin from Shinee 14, Hyuna 14yrs, Sohee from Wonder Girls 14yrs, Bigbang Seungri 15, Jisung NCT 14 yrs….BTS Jungkook 15 almost 16 when he debuted….people making an issue of this now when it’s been an issue since early 2000’s ….this age is the norm since then ….hell we have 4th gen similar debut age as well.
actually since the 1st gen idols had been debuting at young age idk why it’s a huge deal in 4th gen. & if idols want to debut at young age it’s their right to follow their dream since young age. In every gen of kpop the companies debut minors it’s been a normal thing y’all.
A lot of the idols you mentioned have been vocal about how debuting at such an young age was damaging to their mental health so it’s always been a problem and it’s getting worse considering there’s q 13yo child in this group. It’s literally child labor.
@@JoaoVictor-me8fq literally, people don’t get the point of this whole issue. Idols also debuted at this age before, but have voiced the problem with them basically missing out and facing the toxicity of the industry at a young age. Which is not something that should ever be normalized and in the 4th gen it is even more common than before.
I think ppl are noticing it more now bc ALL the members are that young now. During 3rd gen (the one I know the most), groups had one or two underage members and the rest were most likely over 18 (at least in ggs, I don't know much about bgs)
Be careful with that term "manufactured" used by alot of haters to take away agency from artists and to discredit competition. Normally referred to as natural talent.
Natural talent is a strange thing to think when watching “trainees”. Everyone whose called naturally talent had to put in hours of work to get to their level of skill. There really is no such thing as natural talent, you have to practice for it.
@@kittiekatherine, If a person does not have an innate potential, then no amount of training will help to develop it. Otherwise, you could take any passerby from the street and teach him rap, dance and vocals.
@@evilman6761 but you literally could do that though. They even do street casting in KPop. Your describing what happens in the industry we’re talking about and then saying it can’t happen. When these labels literally take kids off the street and decide to teach them to rap, sing and dance over years of practice. How is it innate when some idols start at zero and have to work their way up. I just think it’s weird to be adamant about natural talent when referring to and industry that is known for training their acts. What your saying doesn’t make sense to me.
Everyone all up in arms about the youngest one who apparently will be 14 next month. Maybe they're waiting for her to have her birthday before debuting.
He’s literally not hating lol y’all need to understand the difference between hate and opinions. 13 year olds shouldn’t be in this industry as such a young age the amount of toxicity and sexualization is insane. No one is denying the girls are absolutely talented and j can’t stop feeling proud but it’s just too normalized now days. Yes BoA did debut as a young age but no one realizes what she went through she literally had an interview talking about her struggles as a child. I’ll send the link if I find the video about BoA talking about her childhood :)
Seungri and Minzy were 15 when Bigbang and 2NE1 debuted. Blackpink was slated to debut in 2014 when they were teens but it was pushed back to debut the boys. Winner and iKON are older.
He’s literally not hating lol y’all need to understand the difference between hate and opinions. 13 year olds shouldn’t be in this industry as such a young age the amount of toxicity and sexualization is insane. No one is denying the girls are absolutely talented and j can’t stop feeling proud but it’s just too normalized now days. Yes BoA did debut as a young age but no one realizes what she went through she literally had an interview talking about her struggles as a child. Let people care about these things if your triggered then clearly your the issue :)
This girls vocal range is greater, she’s hitting those high and low notes perfectly. Her rap is not just fast, the tone and sound and delivery are on point for such a young girl 🔥 she’s not Jennie, her vocals and rap are even better.
LIL JENNIE!!!
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EXACTLY 💯 She's an ALL ROUNDER! I got this same feeling when I first watched and decided Jennie to be my Bias in BP!
a 15 year old trainee that goes from a low tone rap (and full of swag) to hitting high notes? her voice spectrum and her control is insane, I have to stan lol😳✨
THE WAY SHE ALWAYS SMILES AT THE END 🫶🏻🫶🏻🥹 like even in the dance performance ray of sunshine!
YG is the safest place to debut a kid. They actually care about keeping kids as kids. I know minzy was lonely because she debuted that young with older girls but Minzy wasnt as sexualized as other idols who debut that young. Minors or Treasure are also very visibly sheltered way more than other agency minors.
Facts
Def reminds me of Jennie 😍🔥🔥
everyone was looking for the fourth generation Jennie well here she is
YG ain't playin' man. They named the group so accurately.
Not going to speak for other ent agency, but for YG, GD debuted as a rapper when he was 13, Seungri was 16 when he debuted in Bigbang, Minzy debuted with 2NE1 when she was 14, Chanwoo debuted with iKON when he was 16, Suhyun debuted with her brother as AKMU when she was 15, then there are Haruto, JeongWoo and Junghwan in Treasure. Those are their debut age, not including when they started their career in the entertainment industry as child actor or join TV/competition program.
If you can start practicing for spelling bee when you were six years old, why not with dancing? Most professional ballet dancer started proper training before they were 10 years old. What about those young CEOs who started their company before they reached 16 years old? Talent, passion and dream has no age boundaries. Don't judge, criticize, and crush someone's dream just because they're deemed as not old enough to do so.
And if you watched YG Treasure Box, these middle-schoolers or younger still went to school, and they received different types of training than older trainees. They are blowing air with a straw into water bottle instead of forcing them belting their notes, they learned rapping like they were learning alphabet song in a fun way. They trained hard for their dream. They could give up and pull out like Midam and YG will just let them go as they wish. Don't compare them with a thirteen years old tweeting some nonsense while laying down on their bed.
And don't say "manufactured", they weren't molded like a barbie. They were being pushed to let out their best potential, whatever that is. Be it rapping, singing, dancing, or acting. If you have potential for three at a time, then why not?
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This is child labor
@@JoaoVictor-me8fq
(1) A minor under the age of 15 (including any minor under the age of 18 who attends a middle school under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act) shall not be employed at any work: Provided, That this shall not apply to a person with an employment permit certificate issued by the Minister of Employment and Labor according to the standards prescribed by Presidential Decree.
(2) An employment permit certificate referred to in paragraph (1) may be issued only by designating the kind of work at the request of the relevant minor himself or herself, to the extent it does not impede with the compulsory education.
(3) If a person obtains the employment permit certificate provided for in the proviso of paragraph (1) in any false or other wrongful manner, the Minister of Employment and Labor shall revoke the permit.
*(Article 64 (Minimum Age and Employment Permit Certificate), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021)
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For each minor employee under the age of 18, the employer shall keep at his or her workplace a certificate of family relationships records verifying the minor's age and a written consent of the person with parent authority or the guardian.
*(Article 66 (Minor Certificate), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021)
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The work hours of a person aged between 15 and less than 18 shall not exceed seven hours per day and 35 hours per week: Provided, That the work hours may only be extended by up to one hour per day and five hours per week by a mutual agreement between the parties concerned.
*(Article 69 (Work Hours), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021)
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(2) An employer shall not have pregnant women and women who have given birth and those under 18 years old work during the time from 10:00 pm to 6:00 am and on holidays: Provided, That this shall not apply to any of the following cases where approval of the Minister of Employment and Labor is obtained:
1. Where there exists a consent of those under 18 years old;
2. Where there exists a consent of women for whom one year has not passed after childbirth;
3. Where a woman in pregnancy makes a clear request.
(3) Before obtaining the approval of the Minister of Employment and Labor in the case of paragraph (2), an employer shall make a faithful consultation with the representative of employees of the relevant business or workplace on whether to execute it, its methods, etc., in order to protect the employees' health and maternity.
*(Article 70 (Restrictions on Night Work and Holiday Work), Chapter V (Women and Minors), Labor Standards Act, Korea Ministry of Employment and Labor, 2021)
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In short, don't worry about child labor. It's already written in Korean Law.
Again, not going to speak for other ent agency, but from Bigbang to Treasure, minors in YG still attend compulsory education after they debut, even non-minors still attend college (at their own will). Treasure's maknae (minor) didn't attend sendoff event on their own concert because it happened after 10PM local time (Japan), and was absent during Music Awards closing ceremony because of the same curfew stated by Korean Law and respected country's law.
Their well-being as children are well taken care of. Besides in-house gym and professional gym trainers to ensure their growth and physical health as children are well maintained, YG also provides therapist to help them with their mental health as children (even when they are still a trainee, provided the said trainee or artists give their consent for the service).
@@Glastika86 you must be completely naive if you actually think this is how it works. These idols literally spent most of the hours of their day at the company and what qualities as “working hours” becomes not that clear. If we took in consideration foreign children like Chikita it becomes even worse cause I doubt Korea’s jurisdiction will care about how many hours she spent getting “educated” at the company. A lot of idols who debuted this early have been vocal about how damaging it was for their mental health both in korea and internationally (Disney child actors). The emotional tool this cruel industry takes on these kids will only be noticed years down the line when it’s too late.
The thig with YG is: Rarely you see a trainee with little time AS A TRAINEE debuting in their groups. TREASURE as an exemple, some members had little time of training in the survive show YG Treasure Box, but the group debuted like 2 year after the show so they had at least 2 andhalf years of training. BIGBANG, Winner, 2NE1, Ikon, BLACKPINK, TREASURE and now BABYMONSTERS, the member train at least 4 years, thats why you see alot of polished idols since debut from YG, a bunch of agencys debut the member with less then 1 year of training and thats why today we have a bunch of LipSync.
Actually Dezzy…..it’s a norm To debut as young as 14-15…..Nothing new heck Boa made her debut in early 2000’s at 13 (she’s the youngest as far as I know)/ F(x) Krystal at 14, Taemin from Shinee 14, Hyuna 14yrs, Sohee from Wonder Girls 14yrs, Bigbang Seungri 15, Jisung NCT 14 yrs….BTS Jungkook 15 almost 16 when he debuted….people making an issue of this now when it’s been an issue since early 2000’s ….this age is the norm since then ….hell we have 4th gen similar debut age as well.
ikr??? 4th gens are full of kids too XD
actually since the 1st gen idols had been debuting at young age idk why it’s a huge deal in 4th gen. & if idols want to debut at young age it’s their right to follow their dream since young age. In every gen of kpop the companies debut minors it’s been a normal thing y’all.
A lot of the idols you mentioned have been vocal about how debuting at such an young age was damaging to their mental health so it’s always been a problem and it’s getting worse considering there’s q 13yo child in this group. It’s literally child labor.
@@JoaoVictor-me8fq literally, people don’t get the point of this whole issue. Idols also debuted at this age before, but have voiced the problem with them basically missing out and facing the toxicity of the industry at a young age. Which is not something that should ever be normalized and in the 4th gen it is even more common than before.
I think ppl are noticing it more now bc ALL the members are that young now. During 3rd gen (the one I know the most), groups had one or two underage members and the rest were most likely over 18 (at least in ggs, I don't know much about bgs)
My bias and jennie My bias too
same♥️
me too
Ahyeon ❤
babymonster and xg taking over the world this year
Yess Lil jennie
Lil jennieee ❤
Definitely lol Jennie ❤
whhooooo buddy. the chills on my arm are no joke. I'm keeping my eye out for this one. damn
She’s so talented it’s actually kinda scary fr
Finally! Been waiting for days for this.
GOT - STAMP ON IT PLEASEEEEE
To me, she’s like a baby Rosé. Her movements are very Rosé.
check chiquita's performance, its AMAZING. she has such an angelic voice
Jennie Kim❤❤❤❤ her small sis💖💖💖💖
ahyeon is prob my fav so far as rapper. She's jennie's daughter haha
Yeah she gives Jennie vibes🔥🔥
Never seen a group name be more accurate than theirs
💙💙💙💙
Baby Jennie
THEY ABOUT TO BE SO SCARY
Yes she is like jennie
Yes jennie
When is the phantom reaction gonna drop?
Her voice reminds me of young Beyonce.
Ahyeon jennie vibes
😱😍💞good girl
I don't like everyone talking about age
No one talking about her talent
Dude young age means no talent??
Yes she's Jennie vibe ❤
It will be pressure, just be themselves they're so young be happy with what they achieve, be inspired by BP.
🔥|❤️|🔥
Be careful with that term "manufactured" used by alot of haters to take away agency from artists and to discredit competition. Normally referred to as natural talent.
Natural talent is a strange thing to think when watching “trainees”. Everyone whose called naturally talent had to put in hours of work to get to their level of skill. There really is no such thing as natural talent, you have to practice for it.
@@kittiekatherine, If a person does not have an innate potential, then no amount of training will help to develop it. Otherwise, you could take any passerby from the street and teach him rap, dance and vocals.
@@evilman6761 but you literally could do that though. They even do street casting in KPop. Your describing what happens in the industry we’re talking about and then saying it can’t happen. When these labels literally take kids off the street and decide to teach them to rap, sing and dance over years of practice. How is it innate when some idols start at zero and have to work their way up. I just think it’s weird to be adamant about natural talent when referring to and industry that is known for training their acts. What your saying doesn’t make sense to me.
Everyone all up in arms about the youngest one who apparently will be 14 next month. Maybe they're waiting for her to have her birthday before debuting.
Before talking about age, please study the idols of the second and third generation. For example, GD and BoA started their careers at the age of 13.
He’s literally not hating lol y’all need to understand the difference between hate and opinions. 13 year olds shouldn’t be in this industry as such a young age the amount of toxicity and sexualization is insane. No one is denying the girls are absolutely talented and j can’t stop feeling proud but it’s just too normalized now days. Yes BoA did debut as a young age but no one realizes what she went through she literally had an interview talking about her struggles as a child. I’ll send the link if I find the video about BoA talking about her childhood :)
Seungri and Minzy were 15 when Bigbang and 2NE1 debuted. Blackpink was slated to debut in 2014 when they were teens but it was pushed back to debut the boys. Winner and iKON are older.
Ace❤️
i'm sorry but i was also born in 2007 just like Ahyeon.. but we're not babies anymore.. we're gonna turn 16 this year (2023)
No y’all still kids :D
This guy just riding the hate train that he's seeing on twitter lol do your research first before you go act like you actually care about their age.
He’s literally not hating lol y’all need to understand the difference between hate and opinions. 13 year olds shouldn’t be in this industry as such a young age the amount of toxicity and sexualization is insane. No one is denying the girls are absolutely talented and j can’t stop feeling proud but it’s just too normalized now days. Yes BoA did debut as a young age but no one realizes what she went through she literally had an interview talking about her struggles as a child. Let people care about these things if your triggered then clearly your the issue :)
This girls vocal range is greater, she’s hitting those high and low notes perfectly. Her rap is not just fast, the tone and sound and delivery are on point for such a young girl 🔥 she’s not Jennie, her vocals and rap are even better.