An Arcanum Sequel Is Now Possible
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- With the recent close of the Activision Blizzard acquisition an Arcanum sequel has become possible, albeit still unlikely.
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00:00 Intro
01:04 Arcanum
03:17 Original Devs
04:04 IP Rights
05:50 What Happens Now
07:03 Initial Sequel Plans
07:45 Microsoft Open To IP Revivals
09:33 Gauging Interest
11:20 Wrapping Up
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I didn't expect to see THE Tim Cain in these comments!
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Mortismal probably geeking out rn, justifiably so.
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@@sleepalaska As someone who never played the game, I too approve this message. lol
An Arcanum "Enhanced Edition" with cut content restored, rebalances, extensive bugfixes and higher quality assets would be nice enough.
If Embracer/THQ Nordic owned the IP, they probably would've already done it. I'd be surprised if MS did it, though.
Preach, brother. It would be so awesome.
And the ability to rebind keys.
@@zachbochekThis haha
That is how shit like this actually happens... Microsoft will never just greenlight a sequel to a little niche CRPG that no one has ever heard of. They might be convinced to greenlight an "Enhanced Edition" of the original... Now if that "Enhanced Edition" does shockingly well, financially then an actual sequel becomes at least possible. As mort says though, this all depends on the original creators still having some interest in the project, cuz if they aren't the ones to pitch it, no one will. This is never going to happen, I REALLY wish it would, I love Arcanum, maybe my favorite game of all time, but I will start to consider this a remote possibility when Microsoft announces that the "Arcanum Enhanced Edition" has sold it 1,000,000 copy, that is the only way Microsoft will ever believe that there is an audience for this game big enough to make it worth their $.
Arcanum is one of my all time favourite games!
At the time it came out, it was revolutionary and awesome fun!
I bought a new computer to play it and my graphic whore friend ridiculed me how ugly it looks. He didn't understand, it's the gameplay where it's at. To this day Arcanum has one of the most realized, fleshed out and believable worlds ever created.
@@stinky_nut_blast the depth!...and how good was the inventory?...it was way ahead of many games being released today?!
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura is the best RPG I ever played. I still have the demo on a demo CD disk from a gaming magazine, and I played that thing to death before the game even released. I found exploits, ways out of the demo area and into areas that weren't supposed to be in the demo. I played every build I could think of, did every quest differently, failed them deliberatly. And every time, I was greeted with a new path forward. Arcanum had a level of depth to everything that I haven't really seen in games since, until maybe BG3. And then there's the setting. Oh my god the setting... It's nerdvana. And the soundtrack blew my mind and sparked a love affair with classical music. It's nothing short of criminal that Troika Games both made this game and Vampire Bloodlines and still went out of business.
Baldur's Gate 3, Dragon's Dogma 2, Bloodlines 2 AND Arcanum 2 ? I'd really love that, going into my 40's just like I was in my 20's 🥰
no bloodlines 2
Arcanum is the answer to what if you didn’t say no to any ideas. It turned out as a bit of a mess, but one of the best potentials for an idea I’ve ever played. After watching Tim Caine TH-cam channel the past 6 months I would love to see him get it back to see where it could go.
Gosh do I hope for this. Maybe a remake/sequel will offer an actual non-wonky RTwP mode.
An enhanced edition could be a stepping stone for a true sequel. I am just so curious to see such a project take shape. Arcanum is truly e product of its time, one can only wonder what it would look like done today.
One of my first ever CRPGs. I think I was 11 when I played it. It was spooky, and depressing… And I loved it.
What was best about Arcanum was the world, story and lore - in short the writing. What was worst was the gameplay. A sequel with the same amazing writing but updated gameplay would be on the top of many peoples wishlists.
I've heard Swen at Larian talk a lot about Arcanum in interviews in the last year. Arcanum 2 was one of those things like BG3 that I would hear discussed when I worked on games. It's very much something the industry is pursuing. I would be shocked to find out a design doc isn't being worked on right now
I like BG 1 & 2. Larian's game felt very far removed from those two for me. The last I'm looking for is another D:OS game, so I'd rather not see them approach this and try their usual with Arcanum's setting.
@FretboardToAsh I wouldn't worry too much. I highly doubt Larian will take on Arcanum. It's more that if it's being mentioned at all, it's on the radar. With the success of bg3, there is little to no chance we won't see every large crpg property revived to varying degrees of quality. Larian will either do dlc, a divinity game, or another famous D&D property like ice wind Dale or planescape. Activision was sitting on IP like Arcanum for this exact reason
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What's better, that every Fallout game since Fallout 3 had to become an FPS instead of a turn based game or if there were never any more Fallout games at all after Fallput Tactics? Better to have a somehwat different sequel that still tries to be spiritually faithful to its predecessor then to have no sequel at all
@@SurprisinglyDeep Wasn't too impressed with FO3 and FO4, but at least we got Fallout: New Vegas out of it.
@@FretboardToAsh I agree. I mean, I've had a lot of fun playing BG3 but it was pretty much Original Sin 3 :D
Considering vtmb 2 will be coming next year, the possibility of a new arcanum game sounds kinda crazy. Troika was indeed a brilliant company.
I hope it will actually be good.
Sadly I am expecting a train wreck. I just hope I am wrong
@@MinorZero I want to believe.
I actually discovered your channel with your Arcanum review. Going full circle ! ^^
A remake or a sequel would be NUTS !
Troika Games are in my list of favorite games ever. I bought ToEE and Arcanum when they launched. These were the days where for me, PC gaming was the best. I miss this era of gaming goodness. It seemed s though games were made by those with passion for games. I understand that money is always a major factor in games, but these people seemed to love what they do and it shows in the gameplay. I hope there is a way for Arcanum to make another appearance, either remake and/or prequel/sequel. Thank you for shedding light on this game and for showing us there may be a chance of more to come in the steam punk magic world of Arcanum.
I'd be cool with a remaster of the first one. Always had an interest in this type of thing, its why I ended up watching Bright. I like to think that's a viable future of the Arcanum world.
Have you seen the trailer for New Arc Line game? It is so reminiscent of Arcanum, even the title is like a nudge/wink to Arcanum. I am actually interested to see that game. I guess a good game to monitor if you like Arcanum. Also, kinda odd that a lot of classic JRPG getting remaster to 3D or HD2D, but there's seem no same interest in making 3D remasters to classic Western CRPGs like Baldur's Gate 1-2, Icewind Dale, Arcanum. Would be nice to play almost the actual same game (with a lil bit of balancing maybe and QOL additions), but using now the modern 3D graphics (it doesn't even need to be photo-realistic 3D), and make it easily playable now in modern hardwares/consoles.
Microsoft has obtained a LOT of juicy IPs and Studios known for their pedigree in RPGs. If they play their hand right and develop sequels to beloved franchises such as another Obsidian Fallout game (New vegas 2 or something else), Arcanum sequel, and somehow getting Troika folks to make a Vampire the Masquerade Sequel amongst other possibilities: they would probably dominate the RPG genre for the foreseeable future
A new Arcanum....wow, I could so go for that! I've been engrossed in BG3, and just loving how some of the content made me think of childhood again, back when I was playing the first two. Arcanum would no doubt do the same thing. I still occasionally think back on Arcanum, and it wasn't perfect, but it was completely engrossing.
Someone could tell Microsoft "this could become YOUR Baldur's Gate 3!" Also BG3 was an example of how a sequel doesn't necessarily need to have many or even any of the O.G. creators working on the sequel for it to be great.
Loved Arcanum so much. I just fear they're going to butcher it...
Ofc this is what is going to happen. Modern games fucking suck. It doesn't matter how many times I try, it's always the same shit : boring boring boring
I had sooo many hours in Arcanum, I would love a sequel. The world was just so rich and I would love it to be expanded upon.
I can appreciate that BG3 proves that sequels to long "dead", cult classic game can work, I find myself more appealed by a ground up remake of the original Arcanum. That would be amazing and possibly garner more attention from a wider audience.
The atmosphere of Arcanum was absolutely singular.
I really hope this happens.
Even if they do just an EE for Arcanum it would be amazing. A sequel would be trickier, mainly because I think they wouldn't have the scope of the original game. One of the greatest things about Arcanum was that you could literally kill everyone and still finish the main quest because there were a lot of considerations for player choice. I think games these days tend to focus more on showy graphics etc. rather than putting time and effort into creating that opportunity for different choices. Even BG3 for all of its success really narrows down what the player can actually do once you leave act I.
This would be amazing. Even an official Arcanum "HD edition" type revamp, with bug fixes, native widescreen support and higher-res textures would be wonderful.
I'd be super happy if they did. Arcanum was a super cool game and concept. They also have all the Sierra games, which I adored.
@Mortismal - just a note, Vivendi owned Activition and owned Blizzard. They decided to divest themselves of their games companies and they forced Blizzard (and others) to merge with Activision (so that's why Sierra is under AVB). Vivendi still exists under other entertainment areas (mostly media - so TV, movies).
I'm aware, I try to make videos involving a lot of legal & corporate posturing as simple as possible for people. More specifically Activision merged with Vivendi Games, because they owned Blizzard with Sierra being mostly just an after thought, to make Activision Blizzard with Vivendi continuing to be the majority shareholder until 2013 when AB essentially paid Vivendi to go away by buying out most of their shares thus becoming independent.
This would be amazing, I am using arcanum as an inspiration for my own game but seeing a proper remake or sequal would be better than anything I can make.
It would be neat to see. I don't see it happening, but I do like the Arcanum setting and think it's a shame it never became more than 1 game. Hope I'm wrong.
It would be cool but considering MS also bought Obsidian and Pillars 3 hasn't been tried after Pillars 2 kind of did badly I'm not holding out hope. (Avowed looks kind of interesting but not as much as a PIllars game for me).
Josh Sawyer not being involved in Avowed tells me all I needed to know in that the game isn't going to be great - he even publically noted that he wasn't a part of Avowed when someone tagged him on Twitter regarding that latest (might I say, awful in my opinion) gameplay trailer. Unfortunately for Josh, other than perhaps New Vegas, his games have always been on the unfortunate end of... something - either bad release window, bad marketing, or simply just doing poorly for god knows what reason (looking at Pillars of Eternity 2).
@@MaityistIt's really disrespectful to dismiss the talent at obsidian like that. Just cause josh isn't working on it doesn't mean it won't be great. People said the same when Avellone left.
@@rsotuyo8180 I am not discrediting them, and did not mean to if it came out that way - but having good project lead and leadership overall can help ground floor devs TREMENDOUSLY, especially if said leadership has a clear vision. With that being said as well, Sawyer and a lot of old school devs seem to look more at home being 'ground floor devs'.
@@Maityist Just about every game Obsidian has made has been good, from Grounded and Pentiment to Fallout New Vegas and The Outer Worlds. There's no reason to believe Avowed won't be, especially considering it's not a game that strays away from the Obsidian formula
@@rsotuyo8180Josh said that after Pillars 2, he feels discouraged for making big budget AAA games, thats why he makes Pentiment last year, hope after that he is ready for another big games.
Was really into Shadowrun when that game came out, and all of a sudden "Steampunk Shadowrun".
Still my favorite C-RPG from that period of time.
Just wanted to say I listen to your daily video every morning at work! Thank you man love your channel!
Glad for this video. Made me laugh given my comment on your just prior video where I wished the same. This is a golden time for things to pick up for the series, if there ever was one. Microsoft doesn't need to reinvent the wheel or even create something to compete in ideas and depth as BG3, they now have something that isn't as good as BG3, but could easily sell well enough in this climate if they just fix some of the under lying problems, and make the game more accessible. If thus fervor continues for CRPGs, and this is released timely, I think ti could get enough support for a fullscale remaster or sequel.
Hope this is a self fulfilling prophecy!
After the mass market success of BG3 there is a good chance CRPGs might come back as a genre for the big publishers.
And even a remake would be fantastic.
This is certainly my most nostalgic game of all time, absolutely love this game and would love to see a quality sequel.
I’d love a remaster, even with patches I never managed to get arcanum working so I’d love a chance to play through the original arcanum world. Obviously I wouldn’t complain about a sequel either, just would love to play the OG before I play a sequel.
Chad Moore, who also worked on Arcanum, is also working with Jason Anderson on Clockwork Revolution.
I also think Clockwork Revolution might sort of be a spiritual successor to Arcanum.
Come on, bro, Clockwork Revolution has barely got anything in common with Arcanum. Almost everyone, myself included, are expecting a shoddily made Bioshock Infinite clone.
@@ThePlayer920 I'm not expecting a BioShock clone at all. We've only seen a trailer. Games change all the time post-trailer.
@@ThePlayer920 Jason Anderson is also the lead dev. He was one of the key men behind Arcanum. Why would he make a BioShock: Infinite clone?
I would love a direct sequel, and a remaster for sure… To be honest, the world building for this game was so incredible that I would welcome the Steamworld treatment of this IP. Make a dozen games and a bunch of different genres… There’s so much to explore with this world.
It's one of my favourite RPG's ever, it was so unique and I loved playing a tech character and building my own equipment
I want a remaster and a return to the Arcanum so bad. The game was so damn good and so close to greatness.
I loved this game and I would still play this from time to time. It would be awesome to get a remaster or a true sequel, but i think I'd only would approve of it if it could get the "Larian treatment" :)
Still one of my all-time faves, despite being janky as hell with a ridiculously uneven latter third. It just did so much that was new, and took the rest of the industry a long time to catch up with.
Getting the Troika-trio band back together again would be awesome, and especially for this, the only truly original IP that Troika created.
But given Microsoft's dismissal of BG3 as revealed in those leaked docs recently, I'm still not sure they understand that there's a market out there for CRPGs. Look at what Obsidian and inXile are both working on at the moment: real-time, first-person action RPGs. To me, that indicates that there's still an old-fashioned executive-level belief that only FPS and third-person games sell.
It's an opinion on par with the belief that Nintendo games are only for kids.
Arcanum is my first "proper" RPG I ever played, and also one of the best, and I've been hoping for a sequel eversince
Interesting setting, would be great if there was at least some enhanced edition released. Not sure if they are really going to resurrect such niche and old IP, but one can hope.
maaan Id give my life for a modern next-genish/UE5 Arcanum remake or Arcanum 2 (sticking strictly to Arcanum setting and lore) the possibilites of that world are endless... what a freaking amazing game that was!
I love the concepts contained in Arcanum. Magic vs Tech. I love the way that they did stamina damage to knock you out. I would love to see more in this world. Personally, I would also be fine with either 2D or 3D. I would be ecstatic if they did one of each.
I also don't think that it's a major problem that the original developers are involved in other projects. They could have another team develop it, hopefully with some input from the original crew, kind of like how Obsidian did Fallout New Vegas. I just hope that they do the IP justice.
I see this news as an absolute win, but like you say in the video, this is completely different from a BG-type situation. Your idea of a MS-backed re-release seems much more realistic (though the kludgy mechanics of the game would still limit its appeal by modern standards).
In the month leading up to BG3's release we had indie devs pearl-clutching over whether BG3 was setting the CRPG benchmark too high. Now, on the other side of BG3's release, we have studio leads musing about what they'd do if given a BG3-sized budget.
Spoilers: Neither of those things are going to happen.
I hope Tim will see this video and share his opinion 😅 btw I discovered this brilliant channel because of his suggestion
I feel like InXile's Clockwork Revolution is supposed to be the spiritual successor to Arcanum pre-Activision acquisition considering that several of the devs from Arcanum are also working on it.
It looks nothing like arcanum though, more like bioshock
@@c3cxla You do realise BioShock is very likely influenced by Arcanum? They both have Steam Punk aesthetics too.
@@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968 arcanum is not steampunk, Boyarsky denied it in an interview and descrobed it as victorian fantasy, tim cain described it as medieval fantasy experiencing industrial revolution. Presence of steam-machines doesn't make it steamunk, it might have common infuence with Jules Verne though. But the steampunk is a specific aesthetic and it's a terrible one.
@@c3cxla The point is, both Arcanum and BioShock aren't all that far removed. We've not really seen much gameplay of Clockwork Revolution anyway, just a cinematic that looked a bit like BioShock but still wasn't steam punk either.
@@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968 I disagree, I hate bioshock aesthetic but love Arcanum, I think they are very different. the art style is terrible in clockwork, the writing also seems terrible from what little we've seen from trailer, it's outright generic steampunk. I have 0 hope it's going to be any good.
Don't undersell the boom of Steampunk cosplay, and lifestyles as well compared to 2001. Love that you nailed BG3's success too.
I'd try to get the Stardust screenplay writers on board too. They adapted Gaiman's book admirably.
Even Arcanum HD Remaster would be awesome. I would buy it for sure. But the rework or sequel by Obsidian or inXile would be even greater. Amazing addition to Game Pass.
This game brings back so many memories... i still have the game cd in the original box just for the love of it. For sure i would buy an enhanced version or a second game. PLEASE DO IT!
Please. Pretty pretty please. PLEASE.
Would love to see an enhanced edition and/ or a sequel happen one day!
Love Tim Caine's channel, he actually gave you a shout out once!
Twice, actually.
I'd be really interested in a remake with modern gameplay comforts.
Arcanum is an awesome game, the freedom of rp really makes it excellent. I never did do a tech play through...
One of my favorite games of all time! With all the love cRPGs are getting right now, this is the perfect time to greenlight Arcanum 2!
I feel lucky that I am old enough to have played this game. It is one of a kind thing. The music plays a great part too. I am not sure if I want a remake. Sometimes a fond memory is better than a disappointed sequel....
I'd bet we do see more cRPG's in the coming future as a consequence of BG3's success. Hopefully this game gets it's sequel but I would really be surprised if it did. Pleasantly surprised.
The biggest weakness of classic isometric RPGs: DOORS.
This was such a great game. I'd completely forgotten about it until your recent videos mentioned it, and now I'm very excited about the potential!
An interesting side effect of Gamepass is that there are definitely games being made that wouldn't otherwise. Im thinking of Pentiment, which is fantastic, and its been stated by the director that it was explicitly only green lighted because of it.
Arcanum ! Would be so sweet to see a continuation or a really well done remake with additions. Would be so, so lovely indeed.
I agree. An enhanced edition of the original could be used to gauge audience interest in the title and could pave way for a sequel. I'd love for that to happen. Arcanum is kind of on the same level as Baldur's Gate (1) for me, although BA is far more polished.
I had no idea that one of the devs had a yt channel - will give it a look! Thanks for the info! ;)
I couldn't stop myself from purchasing BG3 despite my lack of free time. If there happened to be an arcanum sequel I would instantly purchase it.
Would love to see a sequel or even a remaster of this game with everything cleaned up and updated. Other games using this universe would be cool too. Just love the whole steampunk vibe and world they created.
There are so many "dead" IPs they could bring back. I really want to see something done with all of the Infocom properties. I could also see Pitfall coming back if the new Prince of Persia game does well.
Fascinating stuff. I'm more of a Fallout head (FO1 and FO2 mainly) and didn't experience Arcanum at the time. However, I'm very interested in the work of that team from that hallowed time
I would LOVE a sequel for this gem. This is the first CRPG that I played and it holds a very special place in my heart.
It's a pretty cool universe, one I feel is worthy of exploring. But of course if enough people aren't interested, it may not make any money a 2nd time around. I also liked the music in this game, really sounded 19th century-ish. Good game, just needed more work on combat to spice it up and bug fixing.
Never clicked a video so fast before. :) Hopefully, with the enormous critical and commercial success of BG3, publishers will be more inclined to greenlight new CRPG projects. Fingers crossed!
One can only hope! Man I would love a Sequel or just a remaster of the old game. Well I would really love both.
Interesting thought - I actually bought Arcanum back in the day but got distracted with other things and never got far in. I don't think every game needs to be BG3 - something along the lines of what Owlcat produces would be just fine by me [counting days until Rogue Trader releases...]
GOD I would love an arcanum sequel
The concept alone of an industrial revolution style fantasy RPG just sounds amazing
Would love to see a sequel. Loved Arcanum....but at my age I will be long gone before it would ever get released.
I really hope Arcanum can revive, it was my favourite game in 1999, where magic and technology co-exist in this game
Ok,
Arcanum 2,
in 2 years, no bugs?
(I'm a dreamer,
but maybe in 3 years with quite a bag of bugs,
and/or in some early access of some sort...?)
Thanks for your videos!
The combo of magic and technology was so damn cool, I couldn't make up my mind which to use so I just wound up with a 50/50 tech/magic character and it worked surprisingly well.
Fantastic game, as weird as Planescape Torment was.
Sequel as a first person interaction would be amazing! I really hope this takes off!!
I mean, Phill Spencer head of XBox is quoted yesterday saying he is all in on revisiting older owned IPs!
Don´t do this, don´t give me hope.. This game was the spark that ignited my love for RPGs. I really, really want a sequel.
I can't wait to play Arcanum Enchanted Edition on Nintendo Switch & Xbox.
Imagine a new Arcanum game made in the style of Baldur's Gate 3! ☺
I still have the original big box version. Awesome and unique game, thanks!
This never made it on my radar, so this was valuable. Hear of Troika at least.
Corporate action wise I'm more interested in what IP HBS exited with during the recent separation from Paradox following the disappointing release of Lamplighters. Particularly what, if anything, of Weisman's stuff they retained.
Activision Blizzard...makes what? They were historical curiosities only...to me.
I remember being so hyped about this game before it's original release( yeah I'm old). It was good though it was definitely not my favorite isometric RPG of the day.
I think the premise and story grabbed me the most. The steampunk/ fantasy world was pretty unique. I would definitely be interested in a remake with updated graphics, mechanics etc
got my hopes up!
I loved arcanum so much this is my first ever crpg I played.
I thought I was the only one that adored that game .I've seen so many reviews trashing it while to me it was my most played and loved crpg by a huge distance.
The freedom it offered(at that time) and the spells and tech aspect were brilliant.
I remember going to a higher tier area and being pissed the fuck off the that I couldn't manage it.
a sequel would be godlike
a new arcanum would be amazing, they need to keep the music from the main menu and focus the gameplay around turn based combat
That would be a dream come true. This game is so important to me!
I can never look at Arcanums box art without seeing Seths face on it :D
Feed the algorithm; bring the game.
Personally I’d love to see an enchanted version with patch. Your right MG it’ll be couple years if we ever possibly see production of arcanum 2.
Wow. I cant believe this. This game made me love RPGs.
I think it can happen! Larian brought cRPGs to the main spotlight, so Microsoft might grab this title as their opportunity to make their own "BG3"!
Don't get our hopes up man! I've loved this setting.. :(
I have been waiting for a sequel or atleast remastered version of Arcanum for atleast 20 years
It would be great, another Arcanum. Although updated/remastered Arcanum would be also great (and with less work). Great news and possibilities overall.
👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I’m looking forward to New Arc Line as well!