Hours of filming and shooting, angles of sight researched for the right way to look at this production, HOURS folks! Branding and marketing always means a cost. If you can't afford it, keep shooting whatever you're working on currently until you can afford to step up your game! That's how the rest of us had to do it and still do it! Whiners, exit stage left. This system looks fantastic and Fstoppers has done it again with one of the best in the business. Peter, Mike and now Brian! Boom! E
as an amateur i am always interested in making my photos look better, in learning new things, tips and tricks. I have found that there is always something to be taken away from your videos. thank you for sharing.
i remember watching that old fstoppers video and it was a major breakthru in my career and it almost touches my heart to be here today hearing you reference it lol
Here's a direct link to the first tutorial that I created for free: th-cam.com/video/oqa9pbsTJQ0/w-d-xo.html you can also view it on the fstoppers website here: fstoppers.com/commercial/how-photograph-and-composite-commercial-beverage-image-photoshop-178446
Hearing Brian talk about it gets me more amp'd up about product photography then I ever thought I'd be haha the guy seems so subdued and chill, but really fuckin passionate at the same time
"We wanted this tutorial to appeal to anyone on any budget", and then it's priced at 299 usd lol. Because people with a low budget buys a tutorial for 299
I can't afford this at the moment but I think criticizing their pricing is a bit immoral, this is a free-market product. Additionally, they certainly have years of experience and how they value the education they offer is absolutely up to them.
It’s an incredibly fair price considering the quality/depth. Most good photography masterclasses are in that range. Also, im like 90% sure it’s targeted towards people in the industry aka people working in studios. If you’re just getting started with product/doing it for fun there are a lot of free tutorials that are much better resources for you! I’m not trying to be elitist, it’s just that this masterclass uses stuff like strobes and if you’re just a dude in your house you likely don’t have them and can’t follow the tutorial.
anyone braging about the price, sure for most of us it's expensive including me. but we need to appreciate the amount of trial and error to gain this kind of experience. not only that, this skill set will give you a lot of money. think this like comodity. can't blame it.
My problem with the shot of the speakers is that you can clearly tell that it's the same speaker duplicated because of the unique grain and markings in the wood.
After seeing the free (beverage) tutorial from Brian I had to get this.. This tutorial is just awesome! Hands down the best product photography tutorial so far. Well done!
When I was in Daytona Beach studying photography we had to use 4x5 view cameras with film. LOL Tungsten lights also that heated up the room. Nice work :-)
It totally amazes me the negative comments about purchasing this tutorial due to the price, Fstoppers gives you so much free stuff to learn from on TH-cam, they need to make some money for the time and effort they put into such a full scale tutorial. If you are wanting to get into product photography, how long do you think its going to take you to get to this standard, this tutorial gives you immediate access to developing your skills that would take you ages to learn. Brian has invested years and a lot of money developing his knowledge and his skills. If you are serious about photography $299 is not expensive it has value that you can use to start or take your business to the next level. If I was wanting to get into product photography I would find a way to buy the course because I know I can learn from this course and value add to the business. How much do you spend on other things or even other photography items. "Lets be honest its not that the course is expensive, its just that you cant afford it or dont see the true value in it".
You have to understand and empathize with those who cannot afford it. That you're privileged don't mean others are like you.. $300 is huge for some folks living abroad. I might be able to afford it but I am not going to type some uppity condescending comment like yours further demoralizing the unpriveleged.. this is the reason activists groups here fueled by the blue party seem to be pushing an agenda we all don't want
You can start with nearly any camera. I started with Canon rebel crop sensor cameras and have made plenty of great images with them. The best part is that they are super affordable
This is epic! Also, guys, could you make a quick yt tutorial on "resolution stacking" software options ? There are any improvements in this area without using sony7r III pixel shift, just regular series of images ?
I was interested until I saw the cost of the download. $299.00 is a fair bit of change but to be fair to Fstoppers, they offer 13 HOURS of tutorials. I have interest in product photography only because it's one of the last facets of photography of which I would like to know more. However, my forte is more portrait photography and I feel my money would be better spent perfecting that. Maybe later, guys, I will invest in these tutorials but not quite now.
just watching the video.... this is worth $300 Not everything is cheap. If you want the knowledge that someone else took the time to learn master and then set up in a way for it to be beneficial for you to follow and replicate, then you stop bickering and cut the check and pay the man his money! I'll be purchasing this for sure! amazing info in this for sure. It's refreshing to see beyond the basics that people try to pass off as tutorials worth $150
Great quality content, keep going like that. Id like to ask a question. Can i be able to keep the tutorial videos and watch them multiple times or are they viewable only once? The price is a bit much for students like me, dont get me wrong the tutorial WORTHS 300 bucks for 13 hours of training, maybe you could do some discounts for students, that would be awesome.
Yes, with any purchase from our store, you will receive the full video files that you can sync to different devices and watch anytime. If you ever lose your files, you can email us for new ones at any time. As for student discounts, we do not offer them specifically but we do have sales from time to time. Honestly, the information you will learn from our tutorials for $300 is worth it's weight in gold compared to the amount of money spent on formal education through a university. That's not to undermine your schooling but I know how many thousands of dollars a single class can cost and I doubt any one class will teach as many practical lessons as one of these tutorials.
Gerald Davis you can do simple yet eye catching composites witch two speedlights and two stands. I do little bit comision work for craftbeer brewerys and it work well even i my small appartment
I'm so surprised that in this day and age you wouldn't just go with a 3D render. Most if not all of these products already have 3D models created by the industrial or mechanical designers. They'd just need some shaders and lighting
gregkrazanski The majority of large companies like Apple use 3D render for their advertising but you will never achieve the imagination and pure detail from a photo, yes okay it’s a closing market but look at ebooks, everyone still uses paperback books! It’s the way life and technology moves forward
Why does the price always have to be so high?? You'd make a lot more money if you set it at $150, as this is more affordable for most people and you'd sell more. I absolutely love your stuff, but come on guys... This is a lot of money!!
I completely appreciate that production costs are very high, but I just feel that if the price was lower then you would sell more. Maybe it would be good for you guys to offer a subscription service, with access to all of your content for a monthly charge?
Nick Powell I think if you are very serious then this might be worth splashing out but for someone like me who does it for a hobby would not worth my hard earned cash.
Love the idea of the video, although seeing that price felt like getting sucker punched. I'm sure those that can afford it will love it, back to r/productphotography for me!
It's funny watching him do focus stacking manually. He should really check out the G9. He can do fully automated focus stacking (bracketed focusing) with that. And when he is not doing focus stacking, he can be doing 80MP stills with the pixel shift sensor.
It's pretty cool what the G9 can do but it's a bit silly to completely switch systems for a single feature like that. Plus from a tutorial stand point, we need to show people how to do it manually since few will have that feature in their cameras.
Fstoppers no I meant him personally. He should check it out for future teference if this is is main gig. He might like it. That camera just keeps surprising me. It has its trade offs. No one gives you the ideal camera.
For those just starting out, $299.00 for a tutorial is an expense most cannot afford. Aaron Nace of PHLEARN doesn't even charge that much for tutorials and he has some outstanding, comprehensive tutorials on photography and Photoshop. In fact, FStoppers has a lot of his tutorials on their site.
Martin Peterdamm I'm interedted to know what you mean by that. How can you render a real world scene? Or are you referring to the companies that let someone shoot their products instead of rendering images using a 3D model of the product? I guess for the latter, not every product has a specific 3D model to go along the real product.
It really depends on the industry and the client. It's really a mix of both right now. That said, each have their own place in the market, and a lot of clients prefer that their product images are "real" (for lack of a better term) as they are a more accurate representation of their product. This is happening a lot in the automotive industry, but there's still a place for professional photographers. Take for example Easton Chang who does a phenomenal job in the automotive industry and continues to get hired because he's an artist with a unique perspective on automotive photography.
yes with the 3d model and render this. normally a 3D model is already finished from the contruction of the product. you can build a complete studio with real world physical based lightning or just use a hdri image or whatever you can imaging. one really huge benefit, if the client/artdirector or whoever just wanna have a perspective 5 cm to the left or rotate the model x degrees, - no problem - just move camera or rotate and render. also you can extract all possible stuff for compositing. totally sweat. I started with this 3D and became later a photographer - and for this kind of hero shoots in reality you would go in 98% of cases a vray rendering instead of a photoshooting unless the agency has to burn money. a nice example www.chaosgroup.com/gallery/tonic-cgi-leica-m9
woah that's an awesome example! might not be as fun as the act of photographing it, depending on youre style of workflow, but the fact that you can get such realism, and awesome angles out of 3D rendering is incredible. Not to mention the fact that you could also render a video ad
How the crap can he afford 5 profoto b1?? (7:17) I know the video is not about the gear... but man, how many jobs does he need to do to pay his gear of?
Those ProFoto lights do not belong to me. I personally use Paul C Buff Einsteins in my studio. I used the ProFotos in this tutorial because that's what I had available to me. In the tutorial I use a variety of light sources. I start with continuous light by using inexpensive CFL bulbs that you can get from any hardware store, then I move into inexpensive speedlites, and eventually into studio strobes. Believe me, you don't need ProFoto strobes to create great images. You just have to know how to craft your light. Cheers
Thanks Nicola! Yeah, it was easier using some of their equipment, rather than shipping all of mine. I just used my camera and lenses. Much easier to travel that way
What is the average college class going for these days for four credit hours with books? I get it! That price is like whoa! Just like those college courses. Yet the thought is I bought a camera for five times that amount with the thought I am going to make money. It is an investment. Its like when you want to shoot a wedding and the client is low balling to get you to take say $300 to shoot the entire 8 hour wedding. LOL! Yeah! I can hear those groans of hell no! I am not going to shoot your wedding, do all the work to the images, and so on just to end up with only $300 bucks. Let's say you spent the $300 Booked a gig for $100 Booked another for $75 And so on until your clients paid for the course. Because in the end that is the process of learning a new skill and then adding into your skill set. Then building a base of clients. Then raising your rates. I was VERY fortunate to have worked with a commercial photographer and get paid learning tricks and tips to shoot table top photography. People will either invest in their future or not Bitch about the price. Wait for something that is cheaper. Meanwhile someone is eating your steak lunch. Simple as that. Fstoppers is an option I didn't have back in the day. Yet I was lucky to have a skilled commercial food/product photographer to help me get killer results. And that was not with Photoshop too~
Oh that's just the start, there's hundreds more dollars worth of stuff you need for your computer alone if you want to follow these tutorials properly, they kinda left that bit out in the video here.
Tempted but just can't pull the trigger in lieu of spending the same money on light mods and other basics. I purchased one of the WAMA courses because it's just so hard to find material of that quality on that subject and I already had a decent kit, but while I get that this tutorial is a cut above the rest there isn't the same widespread lack of quality information on this type of photography as there is on working with architecture and real estate. Maybe someday.
Is it? Have you looked at the cost of in person workshops and courses at a university? We've always felt like $300 for this sort of knowledge that you can play over and over was almost under priced.
how is this expensive? knowledge is something u have with you forever,especially when this knowledge directly makes you money in the future I think they're charging too little
Not to mention that Brian is a world class photographer. 13 hours of essentially 1 on 1 with a master. I wish I had 300 to spend. Just the post processing techniques are worth it.
is this course for beginners? ok. but why you use so much high-end gear, which costs thousands of dollars? you really think, that beginner will by such a gear for tutorial? you must learn with cheap gear.
$299 divided by 13 hours = $23 an hour to have one of the best commercial photographers teach you his tricks + insider info?...that's more than a fair price. Why does everyone think that everything should be free or almost free to them? If this series is important to you...you will find the $$$ to spend on it...if not...you won't It comes down to valuing experts time, energy & production costs to create teaching curriculum that may actually help you possibly earn more money as a photographer.
You hit the nail on the head. People want the shiny things that they find cool to be cheap or free. I think prices like this do a good job of separating who wants to play around to make something cool, and those that want to invest in education.
Exactly, and if you do learn the material given in the course and create amazing product images, you can get into the industry and make thousands. Investments.
Exactly you spend $300 upfront to have the skillset to charge $300 minimum for all the product photography work you do with the new set of skills you just learned...
Because not everyone can afford It at first.. I think $299 is really highly expensive and remember there're people abroad who would love to take it..remember the world don't revolve around you and your pocket.. so understand no everyone is as privileged as you
I think that undermines the skill behind crafting a great concept, styling, cropping, and paying attention to detail but you are right to a point. A pro needs to be a master at Photoshop to make it in this industry for sure.
Every f..! time i came across a nice looking tutorial and click on it, damn are this over price guys again ! with all of that self ass kissing commercials.
We use a ton of different lights throughout this tutorial including cheap fluorescent bulbs, speedlights and profotos. You clearly do not need Profotos to make these images
300USD? So important accessories... to use for the shoot? or dump it somewhere for an hours worth of content that you'll need those accessories you cant afford any more... hmm what a conundrum.
Just like most of the comments, I think this all looks great but that is just to much money. I'm not sure that the skill level looking for a tutorial like this is willing to drop that much cash on tutorials, regardless of the quality, which I'm sure is good here, but none the less.
Pity a large studio doesn't come with the tutorial. ;-) Not casting any aspersions on Brian, as he has obviously worked hard, and invested heavily, to afford his equipment and studio.
Hours of filming and shooting, angles of sight researched for the right way to look at this production, HOURS folks! Branding and marketing always means a cost. If you can't afford it, keep shooting whatever you're working on currently until you can afford to step up your game! That's how the rest of us had to do it and still do it! Whiners, exit stage left. This system looks fantastic and Fstoppers has done it again with one of the best in the business. Peter, Mike and now Brian! Boom!
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as an amateur i am always interested in making my photos look better, in learning new things, tips and tricks. I have found that there is always something to be taken away from your videos. thank you for sharing.
the sweet spot of editing and lighting
i remember watching that old fstoppers video and it was a major breakthru in my career and it almost touches my heart to be here today hearing you reference it lol
Amazing product photography demonstration. I need this.
How about you link to the original free tutorial in the description?
Here's a direct link to the first tutorial that I created for free: th-cam.com/video/oqa9pbsTJQ0/w-d-xo.html you can also view it on the fstoppers website here: fstoppers.com/commercial/how-photograph-and-composite-commercial-beverage-image-photoshop-178446
Hearing Brian talk about it gets me more amp'd up about product photography then I ever thought I'd be haha the guy seems so subdued and chill, but really fuckin passionate at the same time
Yeah for sure, he's the most calm guy ever but also super passionate about his work!
Wish I could afford this. Looks enticing.
"We wanted this tutorial to appeal to anyone on any budget", and then it's priced at 299 usd lol. Because people with a low budget buys a tutorial for 299
Gear budget. Some photographers have $2000 in gear while others have $20k in gear.
Check the God of product photography: Alex Koloskov + a FREE FB group with AWESOME BTS 'no-secrets' ;)
Fstoppers Pros with 20K in gear probably dont need your tutorials.
I can't afford this at the moment but I think criticizing their pricing is a bit immoral, this is a free-market product. Additionally, they certainly have years of experience and how they value the education they offer is absolutely up to them.
It’s an incredibly fair price considering the quality/depth. Most good photography masterclasses are in that range. Also, im like 90% sure it’s targeted towards people in the industry aka people working in studios. If you’re just getting started with product/doing it for fun there are a lot of free tutorials that are much better resources for you! I’m not trying to be elitist, it’s just that this masterclass uses stuff like strobes and if you’re just a dude in your house you likely don’t have them and can’t follow the tutorial.
Loved the explanations and creative imagination by Brian ...
Thanks Ankit!
*wow, this is really nice, i never knew that product photography has so much work and effort*
*I had no idea bolding text was so fun!*
anyone braging about the price, sure for most of us it's expensive including me. but we need to appreciate the amount of trial and error to gain this kind of experience. not only that, this skill set will give you a lot of money. think this like comodity. can't blame it.
My problem with the shot of the speakers is that you can clearly tell that it's the same speaker duplicated because of the unique grain and markings in the wood.
and the unnatural detail sharpness
After seeing the free (beverage) tutorial from Brian I had to get this.. This tutorial is just awesome! Hands down the best product photography tutorial so far. Well done!
That's awesome, thank you!
i too love photography , how should i start ?
What monitor he’s using ?
So glad to watch this video after 2 years!
Also why isn't the course available now?
when to use continuous light or flash?
When I was in Daytona Beach studying photography we had to use 4x5 view cameras with film. LOL Tungsten lights also that heated up the room. Nice work :-)
Tungsten lights are no fun to work with. I've burned my fingers plenty of times in a studio environment
It totally amazes me the negative comments about purchasing this tutorial due to the price, Fstoppers gives you so much free stuff to learn from on TH-cam, they need to make some money for the time and effort they put into such a full scale tutorial. If you are wanting to get into product photography, how long do you think its going to take you to get to this standard, this tutorial gives you immediate access to developing your skills that would take you ages to learn. Brian has invested years and a lot of money developing his knowledge and his skills. If you are serious about photography $299 is not expensive it has value that you can use to start or take your business to the next level. If I was wanting to get into product photography I would find a way to buy the course because I know I can learn from this course and value add to the business. How much do you spend on other things or even other photography items. "Lets be honest its not that the course is expensive, its just that you cant afford it or dont see the true value in it".
You have to understand and empathize with those who cannot afford it. That you're privileged don't mean others are like you.. $300 is huge for some folks living abroad. I might be able to afford it but I am not going to type some uppity condescending comment like yours further demoralizing the unpriveleged.. this is the reason activists groups here fueled by the blue party seem to be pushing an agenda we all don't want
I was very interested to get it, until i check the price
Chelo MMG me to, the price is way to much for me
Same for me
That's understandable but stay tuned. We always release free sections.
@@pimholtkamp what price?
Where do you get those adjustable-height wood sawhorses?
Ikea if they still sell them
Which camera he is using
I'm using the Sony A7R2
Wow
I love photography but don't have any camera
You can start with nearly any camera. I started with Canon rebel crop sensor cameras and have made plenty of great images with them. The best part is that they are super affordable
Please give me a camera and appreciate me in photography
what
iam very inspired with his productphotography
Thank you Robert :)
Dam, price way too high. I'd like to meet the people who pay that.
super information! love it!
what is the name of music that is playing in th background?
This is epic! Also, guys, could you make a quick yt tutorial on "resolution stacking" software options ? There are any improvements in this area without using sony7r III pixel shift, just regular series of images ?
Song name at the beginning?
What is the device called he was using to edit his photos in Photoshop? The pen and pad type device
Wacom tablet
Great stuff!! Can anyone here help me with how to create the effects shown on the bottle at 0:27? And also the one after that.
This guy is a beast!
I was interested until I saw the cost of the download. $299.00 is a fair bit of change but to be fair to Fstoppers, they offer 13 HOURS of tutorials. I have interest in product photography only because it's one of the last facets of photography of which I would like to know more. However, my forte is more portrait photography and I feel my money would be better spent perfecting that.
Maybe later, guys, I will invest in these tutorials but not quite now.
That was pretty awesome! Thanks for the upload
What kind of watch was that ?
It's a MVMT Watch. They make awesome watches
AWESOME!!! Love your products!
Thanks fstoppers....
Jaw droppingly amazing, You guys are so talented, This really inspires me to learn more and implement that in my tech videos!!
just watching the video.... this is worth $300 Not everything is cheap. If you want the knowledge that someone else took the time to learn master and then set up in a way for it to be beneficial for you to follow and replicate, then you stop bickering and cut the check and pay the man his money! I'll be purchasing this for sure! amazing info in this for sure. It's refreshing to see beyond the basics that people try to pass off as tutorials worth $150
Great quality content, keep going like that. Id like to ask a question. Can i be able to keep the tutorial videos and watch them multiple times or are they viewable only once? The price is a bit much for students like me, dont get me wrong the tutorial WORTHS 300 bucks for 13 hours of training, maybe you could do some discounts for students, that would be awesome.
Yes, with any purchase from our store, you will receive the full video files that you can sync to different devices and watch anytime. If you ever lose your files, you can email us for new ones at any time. As for student discounts, we do not offer them specifically but we do have sales from time to time. Honestly, the information you will learn from our tutorials for $300 is worth it's weight in gold compared to the amount of money spent on formal education through a university. That's not to undermine your schooling but I know how many thousands of dollars a single class can cost and I doubt any one class will teach as many practical lessons as one of these tutorials.
To all the people saying that it's too expensive. "1000 true fans". Just that.
It´s good but a little expensive
Listen ... I'm sorry, but your tutorials are truly kick arse.
Really helpful video, .. great thank you
surely a geniuns guy!
Thank you!
$300 for this tutorial!!! You lot have lost it!!
No Problem when your Career is no 300 bucks worth for you!
A lot of clients pay thousands for high quality images like this $300 isn't that bad
Also straight off the bat in the $300 video he goes on about hundreds of dollars of more gear to 'do it properly'.
yes it's a scam!
@@jokybones Whoa, this tutorial will make out my whole career?
Super great. 😊
I've learnt more from an advertisement of a product photography tutorial than from the most of the videos on TH-cam, lol.
I was impressed and interested until I saw the $299 download fee...
Yeah me to. 300$ is just too much.
The biggest problem I have is I don't have the space for all of those lights.
Gerald Davis you can do simple yet eye catching composites witch two speedlights and two stands. I do little bit comision work for craftbeer brewerys and it work well even i my small appartment
But you also become a member of a secret Facebook group!!!
I'm so surprised that in this day and age you wouldn't just go with a 3D render. Most if not all of these products already have 3D models created by the industrial or mechanical designers. They'd just need some shaders and lighting
gregkrazanski The majority of large companies like Apple use 3D render for their advertising but you will never achieve the imagination and pure detail from a photo, yes okay it’s a closing market but look at ebooks, everyone still uses paperback books! It’s the way life and technology moves forward
an artist.
what im impressed is, that he is shooting with canon 24-105 f4 i guess on a sony, which isnt that sharp usually.
You are masterpiece man! simple Da Bomb!!!
Why does the price always have to be so high?? You'd make a lot more money if you set it at $150, as this is more affordable for most people and you'd sell more. I absolutely love your stuff, but come on guys... This is a lot of money!!
We've done tests and we have found the most value is at the price range esp with the production costs.
I completely appreciate that production costs are very high, but I just feel that if the price was lower then you would sell more. Maybe it would be good for you guys to offer a subscription service, with access to all of your content for a monthly charge?
Nick Powell I think if you are very serious then this might be worth splashing out but for someone like me who does it for a hobby would not worth my hard earned cash.
a subscription service would be a logical thing to do. Even Adobe does it now.
Even for someone who is serious, it is a lot of money!! There are other tutorials out there for 2 thirds of the price.
At 0:18 you can see justa little part of the right finger under the youtube bar.
Amazing
Love the idea of the video, although seeing that price felt like getting sucker punched.
I'm sure those that can afford it will love it, back to r/productphotography for me!
0:50 One color background
I have to sell my camera to buy this
thank you
It's funny watching him do focus stacking manually. He should really check out the G9. He can do fully automated focus stacking (bracketed focusing) with that. And when he is not doing focus stacking, he can be doing 80MP stills with the pixel shift sensor.
It's pretty cool what the G9 can do but it's a bit silly to completely switch systems for a single feature like that. Plus from a tutorial stand point, we need to show people how to do it manually since few will have that feature in their cameras.
Fstoppers no I meant him personally. He should check it out for future teference if this is is main gig. He might like it. That camera just keeps surprising me. It has its trade offs. No one gives you the ideal camera.
For those just starting out, $299.00 for a tutorial is an expense most cannot afford. Aaron Nace of PHLEARN doesn't even charge that much for tutorials and he has some outstanding, comprehensive tutorials on photography and Photoshop. In fact, FStoppers has a lot of his tutorials on their site.
nice.... thats massive
sick
And you guys are sure that product photography will not die out like... tomorrow? I mean 75% of an IKEA catalog is already CGI?
300 USD! Are you joking!? im hoping your other tutorials are over priced!
as a photographer and a former 3d artist - for me this makes totally no sense to photograph it and not just render it. much more flexible
Martin Peterdamm I'm interedted to know what you mean by that. How can you render a real world scene? Or are you referring to the companies that let someone shoot their products instead of rendering images using a 3D model of the product? I guess for the latter, not every product has a specific 3D model to go along the real product.
It really depends on the industry and the client. It's really a mix of both right now. That said, each have their own place in the market, and a lot of clients prefer that their product images are "real" (for lack of a better term) as they are a more accurate representation of their product. This is happening a lot in the automotive industry, but there's still a place for professional photographers. Take for example Easton Chang who does a phenomenal job in the automotive industry and continues to get hired because he's an artist with a unique perspective on automotive photography.
totally agre.
yes with the 3d model and render this. normally a 3D model is already finished from the contruction of the product. you can build a complete studio with real world physical based lightning or just use a hdri image or whatever you can imaging. one really huge benefit, if the client/artdirector or whoever just wanna have a perspective 5 cm to the left or rotate the model x degrees, - no problem - just move camera or rotate and render. also you can extract all possible stuff for compositing. totally sweat. I started with this 3D and became later a photographer - and for this kind of hero shoots in reality you would go in 98% of cases a vray rendering instead of a photoshooting unless the agency has to burn money.
a nice example
www.chaosgroup.com/gallery/tonic-cgi-leica-m9
woah that's an awesome example! might not be as fun as the act of photographing it, depending on youre style of workflow, but the fact that you can get such realism, and awesome angles out of 3D rendering is incredible. Not to mention the fact that you could also render a video ad
How the crap can he afford 5 profoto b1??
(7:17)
I know the video is not about the gear... but man, how many jobs does he need to do to pay his gear of?
Those ProFoto lights do not belong to me. I personally use Paul C Buff Einsteins in my studio. I used the ProFotos in this tutorial because that's what I had available to me. In the tutorial I use a variety of light sources. I start with continuous light by using inexpensive CFL bulbs that you can get from any hardware store, then I move into inexpensive speedlites, and eventually into studio strobes. Believe me, you don't need ProFoto strobes to create great images. You just have to know how to craft your light. Cheers
Brian Rodgers Jr.
Nice! I would use them too if I would have them available^^
Your work is great!
Thanks Nicola! Yeah, it was easier using some of their equipment, rather than shipping all of mine. I just used my camera and lenses. Much easier to travel that way
wow
What is the average college class going for these days for four credit hours with books?
I get it! That price is like whoa! Just like those college courses. Yet the thought is I bought a camera for five times that amount with the thought I am going to make money. It is an investment. Its like when you want to shoot a wedding and the client is low balling to get you to take say $300 to shoot the entire 8 hour wedding. LOL! Yeah! I can hear those groans of hell no! I am not going to shoot your wedding, do all the work to the images, and so on just to end up with only $300 bucks.
Let's say you spent the $300
Booked a gig for $100
Booked another for $75
And so on until your clients paid for the course. Because in the end that is the process of learning a new skill and then adding into your skill set. Then building a base of clients. Then raising your rates. I was VERY fortunate to have worked with a commercial photographer and get paid learning tricks and tips to shoot table top photography.
People will either invest in their future
or
not
Bitch about the price. Wait for something that is cheaper. Meanwhile someone is eating your steak lunch. Simple as that.
Fstoppers is an option I didn't have back in the day. Yet I was lucky to have a skilled commercial food/product photographer to help me get killer results. And that was not with Photoshop too~
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You say photoshop but it shows capture one pro
Oh that's just the start, there's hundreds more dollars worth of stuff you need for your computer alone if you want to follow these tutorials properly, they kinda left that bit out in the video here.
Tempted but just can't pull the trigger in lieu of spending the same money on light mods and other basics. I purchased one of the WAMA courses because it's just so hard to find material of that quality on that subject and I already had a decent kit, but while I get that this tutorial is a cut above the rest there isn't the same widespread lack of quality information on this type of photography as there is on working with architecture and real estate. Maybe someday.
Charging outrageous prices lol
Is it? Have you looked at the cost of in person workshops and courses at a university? We've always felt like $300 for this sort of knowledge that you can play over and over was almost under priced.
how is this expensive? knowledge is something u have with you forever,especially when this knowledge directly makes you money in the future I think they're charging too little
Not to mention that Brian is a world class photographer. 13 hours of essentially 1 on 1 with a master. I wish I had 300 to spend. Just the post processing techniques are worth it.
Background music is tooo good
is this course for beginners? ok. but why you use so much high-end gear, which costs thousands of dollars? you really think, that beginner will by such a gear for tutorial? you must learn with cheap gear.
fstoppers.com/commercial/can-you-really-get-pro-results-inexpensive-light-sources-product-photography-308746
$299 divided by 13 hours = $23 an hour to have one of the best commercial photographers teach you his tricks + insider info?...that's more than a fair price.
Why does everyone think that everything should be free or almost free to them? If this series is important to you...you will find the $$$ to spend on it...if not...you won't
It comes down to valuing experts time, energy & production costs to create teaching curriculum that may actually help you possibly earn more money as a photographer.
You hit the nail on the head. People want the shiny things that they find cool to be cheap or free. I think prices like this do a good job of separating who wants to play around to make something cool, and those that want to invest in education.
Well said @RetroCameraCool Thank you
Exactly, and if you do learn the material given in the course and create amazing product images, you can get into the industry and make thousands. Investments.
Exactly you spend $300 upfront to have the skillset to charge $300 minimum for all the product photography work you do with the new set of skills you just learned...
Because not everyone can afford It at first.. I think $299 is really highly expensive and remember there're people abroad who would love to take it..remember the world don't revolve around you and your pocket.. so understand no everyone is as privileged as you
Just master photoshop and you are a pro
I think that undermines the skill behind crafting a great concept, styling, cropping, and paying attention to detail but you are right to a point. A pro needs to be a master at Photoshop to make it in this industry for sure.
Every f..! time i came across a nice looking tutorial and click on it, damn are this over price guys again ! with all of that self ass kissing commercials.
I want music
This is a tutorial advertisement!
Towwwwwtolly unique. :-)
Profoto rich!
We use a ton of different lights throughout this tutorial including cheap fluorescent bulbs, speedlights and profotos. You clearly do not need Profotos to make these images
High price.
Will wait on less expensive or free resources ;)
nice
300USD? So important accessories... to use for the shoot? or dump it somewhere for an hours worth of content that you'll need those accessories you cant afford any more... hmm what a conundrum.
The brands you photograph should pay you
Just like most of the comments, I think this all looks great but that is just to much money. I'm not sure that the skill level looking for a tutorial like this is willing to drop that much cash on tutorials, regardless of the quality, which I'm sure is good here, but none the less.
How come people don't complain about such prices when a new Iphone comes up??.....priorities
GaryVee would say: "Give your best shit away for free. Then watch the magic happen." 😉
I did just that; th-cam.com/video/oqa9pbsTJQ0/w-d-xo.html
Wow👍🏼
Oooooooooooooooh
300 usd 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Come on guys i am from Syria and i cant handle 100
Soo 300 it a loooottt
With rendering you could do better.
Why would you spend 10x the amount of time ? Unless you value your work that little.
Pity a large studio doesn't come with the tutorial. ;-) Not casting any aspersions on Brian, as he has obviously worked hard, and invested heavily, to afford his equipment and studio.
300? i can buy a whole program with that money lol.
You can also make money by applying the skills & techniques that I teach in the tutorial.
From the comments, you guys just lost quite a bit of sales because of your price. You might be good at Photography but not marketing.
I don't get why this guy it's called a photographer?
You can do this and 1000 more things with CGI, photography is pretty much dead for products.
What is CGI? Can you explain please