i will say im 5.10 and 300 pounds. i hunt out of a saddle and love it. once you learn your gear isnt going to fail you the scared goes away. i love it and wont go back
Aaron - "Advantages of a treestand"..... then offers none. So having used both here is my list: 1. better visibility. You do not have the tree obstructing your view. 2. far less movement to get a shot off. Saddles require you swing around up there like Tarzan. 3. easier to make shots to the weak side. This is a hard thing in a saddle that is IMHO under appreciated vs a stand 4. crooked and leaning trees. Much easier to handle in a stand. Saddles require you set up on the high side. Stands, you can do any side. 5. trees with limbs at hunting height. In a stand you actually want that for back cover. in a saddle, not so much. They prevent the swing around required for many shot angles. 6. adding and removing clothing layers.... far far far easier in a stand. It's a task in a saddle, and that's putting it lightly. 7. access to pants pockets and coat/jacket pockets... basically no go in a saddle. Full access in a stand. 8. far easier to maintain proper form and a solid base for the shot in a stand than a saddle. There are others, but in the interest of brevity... I've used both, and after having used both, I'm back in the Lone Wolf.
@@SufferingOutdoors everything that was said is 110% true, I couldn’t agree more with the listed statements. Only thing saddle has going is great marketing. I’ve got the xc cruzr and novix helo. Both are just tools for the kill but definitely find myself in the stand more than saddle but will also wear the saddle in the stand for safety and off shots.
The weak side shot costed me twice this year…I may be back to a hang on. Easy to say just move to back side or around tree..harder to pull off when the deer are already in on you. But, so easy to setup a saddle/platform and lighter to carry far.
Heck yes! Soooo true! Saddle suck ditched mine the 1st season went straight back to my summit viper. I can sleep I can take a pee I can even take a #2 off the shooting rail and still stay up in that tree all day! Saddles are a JOKE!!!!!
@@arrenbirckhead1438 I've thought about the cruzr xc. How comfortable is it compared to other saddles? That's if youve tried many others? I currently have the flex.
I’m pushing 51 years old and have been climbing trees on the eastern seaboard since I was about 12 years old and still love my climbing stands. Honestly, just got into hang on stands in the last five years or so and still not 100% positive one thing. Between you knuckleheads and a friend of mine you have me seriously contemplating a saddle especially since I’m going to Kentucky next year and I know I will be doing a lot of walking. Be safe and good luck this year and thanks for having me contemplating another 400+ dollar investment
i feel like climbing stands are the best tho since their so mobile you can change to almost any tree and it’s got the comfort of a hang on i got a nice hang on but need another stand thinkin either climbing or saddle.
I’d like to see how you guys get up the tree from your pack set up, the order you do things and where you hang your sticks and platform as you go up? I always struggle with getting up the tree orderly. If you hang your platform on your back then you have a hard time accessing it once you get up to height. Seems like I’m all thumbs with the saddle set up and fixing to hang it up and just use a tree stand. I get how to pack everything for the walk in, just the set up portion is difficult for me. I never had anyone show me a good method. Thanks
I'm a saddle hunter almost 100% of the time. However, I discovered an advantage of using a hang on stand instead. During the late season, in the cold states, it's nice using a larger platform for larger clothing and boots. Also, if someone were to wear bibs to stay warm, the saddle won't attach around their waste as well . Something for people to consider, especially those in the northern states. From mid November onward, I now use a hang on stand.
Right. A larger stand also allows for blood flow; allowing you to move around a bit more. Especially since most people are up in these stands for hours on end.
I have both stands you guys displayed and both work very good. I find myself use the saddle stand more for ultra light for long distance hunts and also with short trees with little limbs for cover. Keep doing what you do I have learned a lot from your videos.
Do you ever feel like you get picked more in a saddle? I'm kinda a fidgety person and find myself moving a lot in my saddle. I really have to stay conscious of it.
My wife got me a latitude method (metal free) saddle for Christmas and I absolutely love it. I could never figure out or feel comfortable in a climbing stand and hanging a stand in the dark in a non familiar place is a pain in the ass. For the hilly ozark mountain hunting I do the saddle is top notch.
Can't imagine the there phantom being more comfortable than my Cruzr xc. You guys should try one. I would rather sit in that saddle than any tree stand.uch more comfortable, at least for me.
no way. a nice, climbing stand with a sweet-ass comfy chair, that can be turned to face the tree or have your back against the tree. best comfort hands-down. when you can fall asleep with ease and no worries, you know it's comfort.
Been using a summit climber for years and I believe it’s holding me back,needing straight limbless trees can put you away from where I need to be. Great video! I think I’m going with the lone wolf hang on. Thank you
I can appreciate both but would love a summit climber! These guys are from Iowa where trees are small and crooked. In Appalachia there are tall straight trees everywhere and you can go high as needed with the Summit vs needing a bunch of steps/sticks.
I feel that hang on platforms are good if you are hunting a piece of private and aren't going to be moving around or going mobile on public with it. But I'd have to say saddle all the way for mobility's sake.
this. the only reason to use either of the styles he had, are for mobility. when one is hiking about and wanting to have something with them, to get up in a tree, when they find a spot they choose. but even then, why not just hunt on the ground?
@@zzz7zzz9 odds get way better of a deer not noticing you until it's to late if you're in the air. Ground level they can pick you out much easier. When I hunt public and get in the air, especially for archery, I get 20+ feet if I can and if the situation allows for it with shooting lanes.
I bought a second, identical climber for a different property...it is that good of a product! th-cam.com/users/postUgkxlQ7TDIrnnSXXbRgFFaxqwullRJJIuYAs I have had the first one for 10 years and only have had to replace the plastic chain covers when they wear out from climbing pine trees. I don't use the climbing harness and strap that comes with this product since I already have upgraded that for comfort. I do save it for a guest though. It works fine, but takes a lot of work to strap in compared to aftermarket harnesses. I will buy this climber again when my daughter is old enough to climb. It is a very safe product and well designed.
Great video as always guy's, but you didn't mention the stick's at all... and they are a big part of both the saddle and the stand, and not all sticks are created equal.
An advantage for me on using hang-ons is I can sit more still for longer. That said, I only use them when I can leave a setup for the season. For run and gun, I use the saddle.
I pack my clothes in then when I get to the base of tree I’m gonna climb I throw my bibs on under my saddle. I can put jackets on easy so I put jackets on when I get setup in the tree
@@feyrband Not always, that is why bibs have hand warmer pocket, grunt tube pocket, etc which a jacket would cover. Additionally, my Sitka Fanatic bibs have a very thick fleece and to get a jacket to fit over the bibs required an XXL is needed which puts the sleeves so long my hands are inside the sleeves.
Yea I have to hand my clothes on my bag on the way in and put them on at the base of the tree it takes off 5 minutes but it’s better than sweating on the walk in
I got the chance to use Dan's stand this season for a week. You're right Arron, you'll want to get your hands on it. What was on the market so far I preferred the saddle but after using Dan's stand I'll be mobile hunting with it next year.
Love my saddle. I do have a few lock-on stands scattered around my farm for ease of use but definitely use my saddle when hunting public or when I need to adjust to movement shifts.
I use 2 options over the last couple of years. The Block style stand which has a seat like u r sitting in a hammock. It is the only stand I will use cuz u can leave the block locked to a 🌳 & climb the 🌳. Then when u r just above the block u pull up the aluminum stand & slide it onto the aluminum block from above. I attach a small 6' or 7' ratchet strap @ the bottom to assure that it is 100% locked in. It has never made a noise on me. My saddle option is the Kestrel Flex by Aerohunter. In my mind I need to remain noise free,light & stealth as possible. Stealth is totally camo'ed out as well as motionless & scent free. I will be adding the camo finish this week to my new Wild Edge Embattlement which I will be using in 2021. When hunting public u need to be undetected in your gear & setups from people as well as your quarry. No spot is foolproof if u give up your ambush spot to both 2 & 4 legged creatures by being sloppy. I know that confidence is half the battle & no battle is won without a great game plan. Personal preference is true but it really comes down to the moment of truth & how u & your gear perform when opportunity knocks.
Off subject... Aaron's type of hat is crazy warm. You can also put it on over a ball cap to keep rain and sun out of your eyes. The flaps on the side can be folded up and snapped together over top your head if you get too warm. That and neoprene Muck boots best cold weather purchases I have ever made. Muck boots don't squeak either.
Thank you for taking time to show and explain these options, in detail. I've always hunted from permanent stands, which limits where i'm able to hunt. I've been reluctant to invest in a portable stand until i really had an opportunity to weigh out the options. I'm leaning towards the saddle, but worried about fatigue...
If you have not tried it yet, I can tell you fatigue is not an issue. Actually pretty relaxing to ‘sit’ once you get used to it. Happy hunting and be safe!
I used a climber only for 20 years of my life. Switched to a saddle setup before this current season and I’ll never pick my climber up again. Unless I’m moving it outta my way.
I use a climber when I hunt in areas that have gobs of straight trees just because its much quicker to get set up with one, but in other areas of my state with more brushy crooked trees I use my XOP stand and sticks.
Here in Idaho, i use a climber stand. Super comfy. Attached an old frame pack to it for carrying. Whitetail love the rose hips & semi-open pine trees. Near barren pines are perfect, climb it up to the first cluster of greenery. 30lb stand + gear backpack I wear reverse. Used to backpacking & elk hunting so the lbs + elevation gain hikes in to hunt aren't a factor. Considered getting a hunting beast setup but unnecessary $ for my hunting scenarios.
I would like to see a full set up from the ground, to climbing the tree to stand set up for 2 people. My daughter wants to start going out with me next year, but seeing how a pair can get set up in the same tree would be nice to get a base and feel for it.
I use a kestrel flex,predator platform with 4 beast sticks with amsteel rope mods with single loop aider on each stick... I absolutely love my set up this year hang and hunt new tree every hunt. Can be up a tree fully set up 10 minutes and that's being slow and quiet.... great video guys....
I'm 55, been a mobile hunting fanatic out of necessity for 40 years. Saddle is hard to beat for all the reasons you mentioned, the one big disadvantage for me is movement. At my age & where I hunt, the lone wolf sit & climb beats the saddle- not an issue packing even on long walks through muck and brush. Movement is what gets me busted in the saddle. I actually use both, the saddle as a safety system during the climb, even enables me to go around branches. Even with the saddle alone, you need climbing sticks- with the lone wolf climber, no need for sticks- if you hunt very high, the LW may be lighter to pack than sticks & saddle. It's a safe system as well since you have the top half of the climber, the bottom, plus your saddle connected to the tree the whole way up & down. Like you said, it comes down to personal preference, I'm sure there's older guys than me out there very successful with just the saddle.
I've been reduced to using a crossbow & shooting stick so I've got to use a stand . But would love to use a saddle if I can get my old bow back in hand ....
Thanks for the video! Can you give us a breakdown of everything needed for the saddle hunting? Like all the seperate pieces needed, sticks etc... I'm thinking of trying them next year.
Saddle, platform, tether, and lineman's rope. Other than that you'll need GOOD sticks. I had some cheaper Hawk ones that I used walking hills in Ohio this year. Way too heavy. I went to the XOP mini sticks and bought aftermarket cable aiders. Look at tethrdnation.com or you're welcome to check out the hawk saddle or one of the others. Their is an entire website devoted to saddle hunting.
trophyline has packs where all you need is a way up the tree and a platform. On private property I use pole barn spikes as a ladder and platform at the top I use 4-6 nails around tree as platform. cheap and effective and won't get stolen.
My uncle hunts via treestands the majority of the time. He's looking to reduce some weight, become a bit simpler. I just forwarded him this video. I do like the Saddle option. Lighter, smaller and able to shoot from every angle. Great video!
I don't know, I'm kinda with him after hang ons, climbers, ladder stands, and wooden stands I still think my saddle is the most stealthy and can go almost any tree. Not locked down to a saddle but do love it after I hunt on ground or in another stand. Takes practice though
Going to buy a saddle system glad you made this video ive used a hang on and don't mind it but with more propertys to hunt easier to get a saddle. If you get in a tree and don't like it its easy to just pick another in short time.
If I was a younger man I would love to try a saddle. My knees just started to go bad. I do have a light weight lock on and sticks. I'm not stopping!! All your videos are great guys!!👍👍
Heck yah! Geese with a bow...can't wait to see it! Definitely going saddle now. Appreciate the video. I have been waiting for someone to break it down for me, I just didn't know it.
I Get It...It's Lighter And More Compact, But Is The Hang On A Just A Little More Sturdier? You Guy's Are Awesome...I've Been A Hunter For Over 40 Year's...And I Learn More From You Gent's Every Day!!!!
I use a saddle only but I think that you move around a lot more in a saddle.. I think over all the shooting positions in most cases are easier from a treestand minus the directly behind the tree. I still love my saddle though. When carrying in lots of gear it's nice to have a lot less weight.
Have any of THP guys ever used climbing stands? I enjoy summit stand for comfort and in Alabama there are plenty of straight trees to pick from, considering a saddle just for the weight difference when on public land.
Tethrd has the best customer service. They have emailed and regular mailed me after the last two seasons making sure my saddle is still in good working order and how to easily send it in for safety checks and if anything needs replaced, they make it very easy to get it done. Great product and great dudes over there at Tethrd!
Have you ever used a Trophy Line tree saddle? I still have mine from way back in 2010 but am looking into investing in a Tethrd Phantom. It's much lighter than what I have now but my Trophy Line has extra bags and pouches which I really like having. Thanks for the video.
Just gearing up myself with a new camcorder setup and some mics. Can't wait to get some good public land hunting footage out here in Montana. Awesome inspiration and knowledge!
How is removing/adding layers in a saddle? I do a LOT of all day sits. You start out layered up and usually drop a layer or two as the day goes. It goes the other way with fronts coming in as well.
Jackets are easy. I started using the LWCG.5 with Aero hunter Flex so now if needed i can take boot off and put a hand warmer in it. Have not tried to change pant or bibs yet.
Had a saddle for the first time this year. Used the one stick method. I think I may purchase Tetherd's climbing sticks when they come out. I would love to know what you guys thought of them if you got a chance to try them. I think Greg had a set in his truck on one video.
My buddy had some of them sticks they are light but loud. I bought the Beast sticks. 4 sticks with 1 step aider on each stick. I love my set up now. All in what you like.
I have used the phantom for 2 years now and I think they are ok. Running 2 pouches on it weighs it down and it always tries to fall off. I find the over all system to be noisy. Especially the platform. I am looking to get a hang on stand this year.
It’s funny hearing that the hang on is big when I walk into the woods with a summit Goliath climber on my back. Looking to upgrade to a hang on for more tree options and lighter weight, possibly a saddle in the far future.
Did you see a big difference with shot angles? I’m trying to figure out how you get a shot off if you are shooting on your off hand side or behind your setup. Would you lean around the whole tree? I can definitely see a huge disadvantage when it comes to degrees of shooting coverage when in a saddle. Maybe make a video on how you approach different shooting angles?
Just so you know these videos help boost confidence for the coming Seasons! Too many times I couldn't setup right where I needed i like my climber but its time to switch! Once a again thp moral booster
Just what I wanted to see. Already have my hawk lite sticks. Now for the saddle. Was thinking about the menace. But maybe the mantis now. And what about Jake and the sturgeon spear fishing this year. Any footage?
You guys going to bring us the annual rabbit hunting tour this year went back through the vid archives can’t find the rabbit hunting videos from the past few yrs
@@lukebjorklund6405 Guessing your a newbie here at THP but the guys have always hunted rabbits and if you don’t believe me check out Midwest whitetail we’re the THP cut their teeth in the early days but glad you here watching the vids
@@davidtisch5237 I’m not a newbie here, followed this channel from the very first video when they started, on this THP channel they’ve never hunted rabbits, otherwise I’d know because I’ve been on the lookout.. maybe on Midwest Whitetail they used to but not here is what I was saying. Would look forward to it though if they did one.
@@lukebjorklund6405 Luke like I said before you new to THP but when the guys Aaron n Gregg were at Midwest whitetail editing videos n producing the show for Bill they always closed out the year rabbit hunting but you know bro 👍so if n when they post it know I told you so Mr don’t know sh#t
@@davidtisch5237 hey woah woah go back there now they’ve never posted a rabbit video on THP man that’s all I’m sayin I’m not new either quit assuming and I’m not trying argue on social media, just saying I’d like to see a rabbit video but they’ve never posted one on THP.
I'm only 16 and I stated hunting last year with my bow and I have had to figure out everything by myself and this channel and Seek One have helped me a lot because I'm hunting small, tight spaces in Urban areas and I just wanted to say thank you for all the great videos. I was also thinking about saving up for a saddle but I was wondering if you could just use a regular harness instead of buying the saddle?
Try the method saddle by latitude outdoors, you will sell your mantis saddle just like I did. I bought the metal free saddle that uses the rope for the belt most comfortable saddle in the tree and walking.
Couple things to consider...They make a larger platform for us bigger guys...The small platform I couldnt get comfortable with but that little extra room made it very nice...I also throw cordage around it to keep the squeeky boot noise to a minimum...Also I have been told that they are coming out with a bigger saddle...Im at the upper limit of the current saddle but when it got to colder weather where I was layered more I couldnt get the saddle to fit any more...Def going to get the bigger saddle when it is available...This was my first year with my Tethrd and I LOVE IT!!!
I'm still using my new tribe evo which predates the tethrd products. It is the safest saddle that has been available. I think tethrd makes great products. I own and use the assessory strap and the platform, but new tribe saddles are better. For me, a stand with the saddle is the best all around. I purchased a lwcg .5 to use with my new tribe evo. It is perfect for my hunting style. Thats what is great about hunting, people can get it done it many different ways. Hunters are a big family. We need to stick together. God Bless.
I’ll give everything a try to see, but bad back and knees makes me have to sit and move my legs more often than I want. How does the saddle work if you want to sit on a tree limb?
Hang ons are by far the fastest, quietest way to get in and out of! However, with saddles they are super light, mobile, and comfortable. But they definitely have a learning curve. You must practice shooting from as it will completely change your form.
As I’ve gotten a little older my balance doesn’t feel as good and I’ve noticed I seem to be less comfortable in my lock on due to a fear of falling. Kind of bizarre how it’s started. I’ve wondered if a saddle would be better since my weight would be in the saddle all the time, rather than when I stand on my big platform. Thoughts?
Does anyone know how long the Tethrd saddles last until you need to begin replacing stuff? I'm guessing it has a limited shelf life like anything else, for safety reasons.
Did yous ever do like a safety video?? I'm new to this saddle hunting so I'm kinda scared to go up a tree lol.. I'm waiting on getting steps then I can try out my jx3 saddle to practice
Is there any way to put the climbing sticks vertical instead of horizontal when using the saddle ? Just thinking it would make the footprint smaller and less likely to catch brush.
I know you guys are tethered boys and have your own hoodies but you should check out the trophy line hoodie with the upper pocket....its awesome for saddle hunting
$500 BUCKS?!!!! Fer a saddle? It cracked me up when Worbe said these thing last forever, I've had this one fer 2 yrs, lmao! Good vidja guys very informative, ya'all had a Great season this year, enjoyed watchin, lookin forward to the shed vidja's!
I have two very simple reasons that I avoid both of these and instead use a ground blind. I am both fat and scared
Lol
Me too brother, me too
I find the saddle is less nerve wracking than a climbing stand.
i will say im 5.10 and 300 pounds. i hunt out of a saddle and love it. once you learn your gear isnt going to fail you the scared goes away. i love it and wont go back
🤣 you're great man
Aaron - "Advantages of a treestand"..... then offers none. So having used both here is my list:
1. better visibility. You do not have the tree obstructing your view.
2. far less movement to get a shot off. Saddles require you swing around up there like Tarzan.
3. easier to make shots to the weak side. This is a hard thing in a saddle that is IMHO under appreciated vs a stand
4. crooked and leaning trees. Much easier to handle in a stand. Saddles require you set up on the high side. Stands, you can do any side.
5. trees with limbs at hunting height. In a stand you actually want that for back cover. in a saddle, not so much. They prevent the swing around required for many shot angles.
6. adding and removing clothing layers.... far far far easier in a stand. It's a task in a saddle, and that's putting it lightly.
7. access to pants pockets and coat/jacket pockets... basically no go in a saddle. Full access in a stand.
8. far easier to maintain proper form and a solid base for the shot in a stand than a saddle.
There are others, but in the interest of brevity...
I've used both, and after having used both, I'm back in the Lone Wolf.
It is politically incorrect to say anything negative about a saddle today! Great points!
@@SufferingOutdoors everything that was said is 110% true, I couldn’t agree more with the listed statements. Only thing saddle has going is great marketing. I’ve got the xc cruzr and novix helo. Both are just tools for the kill but definitely find myself in the stand more than saddle but will also wear the saddle in the stand for safety and off shots.
The weak side shot costed me twice this year…I may be back to a hang on. Easy to say just move to back side or around tree..harder to pull off when the deer are already in on you. But, so easy to setup a saddle/platform and lighter to carry far.
Heck yes! Soooo true! Saddle suck ditched mine the 1st season went straight back to my summit viper. I can sleep I can take a pee I can even take a #2 off the shooting rail and still stay up in that tree all day! Saddles are a JOKE!!!!!
@@arrenbirckhead1438 I've thought about the cruzr xc. How comfortable is it compared to other saddles? That's if youve tried many others? I currently have the flex.
I’m pushing 51 years old and have been climbing trees on the eastern seaboard since I was about 12 years old and still love my climbing stands. Honestly, just got into hang on stands in the last five years or so and still not 100% positive one thing. Between you knuckleheads and a friend of mine you have me seriously contemplating a saddle especially since I’m going to Kentucky next year and I know I will be doing a lot of walking. Be safe and good luck this year and thanks for having me contemplating another 400+ dollar investment
i feel like climbing stands are the best tho since their so mobile you can change to almost any tree and it’s got the comfort of a hang on i got a nice hang on but need another stand thinkin either climbing or saddle.
With turkey season around the corner, you should do some calling techniques and tips!
That would be great😂😂
That would be awesome
Smart idea , need some work on my calls , not the greatest
I second this👍👍
Yes!! That would be awesome
“So that jake doesn’t steal it” 😂😂😂😂
I’d like to see how you guys get up the tree from your pack set up, the order you do things and where you hang your sticks and platform as you go up? I always struggle with getting up the tree orderly. If you hang your platform on your back then you have a hard time accessing it once you get up to height. Seems like I’m all thumbs with the saddle set up and fixing to hang it up and just use a tree stand. I get how to pack everything for the walk in, just the set up portion is difficult for me. I never had anyone show me a good method. Thanks
I'm a saddle hunter almost 100% of the time. However, I discovered an advantage of using a hang on stand instead. During the late season, in the cold states, it's nice using a larger platform for larger clothing and boots. Also, if someone were to wear bibs to stay warm, the saddle won't attach around their waste as well . Something for people to consider, especially those in the northern states. From mid November onward, I now use a hang on stand.
Right. A larger stand also allows for blood flow; allowing you to move around a bit more. Especially since most people are up in these stands for hours on end.
what about climbing stands? a mobile hang on stand
Zach said he doesn’t need either
I have both stands you guys displayed and both work very good. I find myself use the saddle stand more for ultra light for long distance hunts and also with short trees with little limbs for cover. Keep doing what you do I have learned a lot from your videos.
Recieved my THP gear in the mail today and THP posted a video, the world isnt so bad right now after all lol
Do you ever feel like you get picked more in a saddle? I'm kinda a fidgety person and find myself moving a lot in my saddle. I really have to stay conscious of it.
Me too I’m usually good til ab 9:30 10 in the morning by 12 o clock it’s like I’m swinging on a swing set😂
My wife got me a latitude method (metal free) saddle for Christmas and I absolutely love it. I could never figure out or feel comfortable in a climbing stand and hanging a stand in the dark in a non familiar place is a pain in the ass. For the hilly ozark mountain hunting I do the saddle is top notch.
Can't imagine the there phantom being more comfortable than my Cruzr xc. You guys should try one. I would rather sit in that saddle than any tree stand.uch more comfortable, at least for me.
no way. a nice, climbing stand with a sweet-ass comfy chair, that can be turned to face the tree or have your back against the tree. best comfort hands-down. when you can fall asleep with ease and no worries, you know it's comfort.
I've owned both. Cruzr XC 100%!!! Couldn't agree more!
@@zzz7zzz9 no sleeping in the stand for me.
Agreed with the comfort. I have a CRUZR XC and it’s super comfortable. I just hate the weak side shot.
Been using a summit climber for years and I believe it’s holding me back,needing straight limbless trees can put you away from where I need to be. Great video! I think I’m going with the lone wolf hang on. Thank you
carry a nice, little saw for limbs. or, stay on the ground and hunt. it isn't necessary to be up in a tree.
I can appreciate both but would love a summit climber! These guys are from Iowa where trees are small and crooked. In Appalachia there are tall straight trees everywhere and you can go high as needed with the Summit vs needing a bunch of steps/sticks.
I feel that hang on platforms are good if you are hunting a piece of private and aren't going to be moving around or going mobile on public with it. But I'd have to say saddle all the way for mobility's sake.
this. the only reason to use either of the styles he had, are for mobility. when one is hiking about and wanting to have something with them, to get up in a tree, when they find a spot they choose. but even then, why not just hunt on the ground?
@@zzz7zzz9 odds get way better of a deer not noticing you until it's to late if you're in the air. Ground level they can pick you out much easier. When I hunt public and get in the air, especially for archery, I get 20+ feet if I can and if the situation allows for it with shooting lanes.
I bought a second, identical climber for a different property...it is that good of a product! th-cam.com/users/postUgkxlQ7TDIrnnSXXbRgFFaxqwullRJJIuYAs I have had the first one for 10 years and only have had to replace the plastic chain covers when they wear out from climbing pine trees. I don't use the climbing harness and strap that comes with this product since I already have upgraded that for comfort. I do save it for a guest though. It works fine, but takes a lot of work to strap in compared to aftermarket harnesses. I will buy this climber again when my daughter is old enough to climb. It is a very safe product and well designed.
Great video as always guy's, but you didn't mention the stick's at all... and they are a big part of both the saddle and the stand, and not all sticks are created equal.
An advantage for me on using hang-ons is I can sit more still for longer. That said, I only use them when I can leave a setup for the season. For run and gun, I use the saddle.
why not get a climbing stand. i feel it’s more versatile for run and gun no sticks and the comfort of a hang on that’s what im leaning towards anyways
One disadvantage I have found with my saddle is in cold weather adding or removing clothing is a real pain.
I pack my clothes in then when I get to the base of tree I’m gonna climb I throw my bibs on under my saddle. I can put jackets on easy so I put jackets on when I get setup in the tree
@@alexhutchens6868 My jacket goes under my bibs so everything must go on before my saddle and cannot be removed in the tree.
@@walter992 what's the logic there? Usually see jacket over bibs, not other way around.
@@feyrband Not always, that is why bibs have hand warmer pocket, grunt tube pocket, etc which a jacket would cover. Additionally, my Sitka Fanatic bibs have a very thick fleece and to get a jacket to fit over the bibs required an XXL is needed which puts the sleeves so long my hands are inside the sleeves.
Yea I have to hand my clothes on my bag on the way in and put them on at the base of the tree it takes off 5 minutes but it’s better than sweating on the walk in
I got the chance to use Dan's stand this season for a week. You're right Arron, you'll want to get your hands on it. What was on the market so far I preferred the saddle but after using Dan's stand I'll be mobile hunting with it next year.
Trying to think of advantage of a treestand...... yeah me too. Mine haven’t left the garage since I got in a saddle.
I sold mine no matter I used it only few times.
One advantage is the shooting rail if you are gun hunting
Love my saddle. I do have a few lock-on stands scattered around my farm for ease of use but definitely use my saddle when hunting public or when I need to adjust to movement shifts.
One advantage is that you only need 2 pieces for a climber. Not 3-4 sticks , ropes , carabiners , knee pads , a platform , etc.
I use 2 options over the last couple of years. The Block style stand which has a seat like u r sitting in a hammock. It is the only stand I will use cuz u can leave the block locked to a 🌳 & climb the 🌳. Then when u r just above the block u pull up the aluminum stand & slide it onto the aluminum block from above. I attach a small 6' or 7' ratchet strap @ the bottom to assure that it is 100% locked in. It has never made a noise on me. My saddle option is the Kestrel Flex by Aerohunter. In my mind I need to remain noise free,light & stealth as possible. Stealth is totally camo'ed out as well as motionless & scent free. I will be adding the camo finish this week to my new Wild Edge Embattlement which I will be using in 2021. When hunting public u need to be undetected in your gear & setups from people as well as your quarry. No spot is foolproof if u give up your ambush spot to both 2 & 4 legged creatures by being sloppy. I know that confidence is half the battle & no battle is won without a great game plan. Personal preference is true but it really comes down to the moment of truth & how u & your gear perform when opportunity knocks.
A good combination of the two works well for me! Usually, I use hang-on stands on private pieces.
Off subject... Aaron's type of hat is crazy warm. You can also put it on over a ball cap to keep rain and sun out of your eyes. The flaps on the side can be folded up and snapped together over top your head if you get too warm. That and neoprene Muck boots best cold weather purchases I have ever made. Muck boots don't squeak either.
Thank you for taking time to show and explain these options, in detail. I've always hunted from permanent stands, which limits where i'm able to hunt. I've been reluctant to invest in a portable stand until i really had an opportunity to weigh out the options. I'm leaning towards the saddle, but worried about fatigue...
If you have not tried it yet, I can tell you fatigue is not an issue. Actually pretty relaxing to ‘sit’ once you get used to it.
Happy hunting and be safe!
gonna have to give a saddle a try this year.
You guys should try the cruzr saddle its way comfy. My opinion more comfy than the mantace
I guess I’m stuck in the past, I use a climber as my main treestand,. I tried other setups but just like my climber better.
same here I'm afraid of heights which is a terrible mix with bow hunting 😫 I feel more comfortable with the upper hoop around me
When I see how much it costs to get the saddle set up, I talk myself back into using the climber as well.
I used a climber only for 20 years of my life. Switched to a saddle setup before this current season and I’ll never pick my climber up again. Unless I’m moving it outta my way.
I use a climber when I hunt in areas that have gobs of straight trees just because its much quicker to get set up with one, but in other areas of my state with more brushy crooked trees I use my XOP stand and sticks.
Do what works for you. As long as you're in the woods
Here in Idaho, i use a climber stand. Super comfy. Attached an old frame pack to it for carrying. Whitetail love the rose hips & semi-open pine trees. Near barren pines are perfect, climb it up to the first cluster of greenery. 30lb stand + gear backpack I wear reverse. Used to backpacking & elk hunting so the lbs + elevation gain hikes in to hunt aren't a factor. Considered getting a hunting beast setup but unnecessary $ for my hunting scenarios.
I would like to see a full set up from the ground, to climbing the tree to stand set up for 2 people. My daughter wants to start going out with me next year, but seeing how a pair can get set up in the same tree would be nice to get a base and feel for it.
We still hang multiple stands around the property we also built a few box blinds up in some oaks
I use a kestrel flex,predator platform with 4 beast sticks with amsteel rope mods with single loop aider on each stick... I absolutely love my set up this year hang and hunt new tree every hunt. Can be up a tree fully set up 10 minutes and that's being slow and quiet.... great video guys....
I'm 55, been a mobile hunting fanatic out of necessity for 40 years. Saddle is hard to beat for all the reasons you mentioned, the one big disadvantage for me is movement. At my age & where I hunt, the lone wolf sit & climb beats the saddle- not an issue packing even on long walks through muck and brush. Movement is what gets me busted in the saddle. I actually use both, the saddle as a safety system during the climb, even enables me to go around branches. Even with the saddle alone, you need climbing sticks- with the lone wolf climber, no need for sticks- if you hunt very high, the LW may be lighter to pack than sticks & saddle. It's a safe system as well since you have the top half of the climber, the bottom, plus your saddle connected to the tree the whole way up & down. Like you said, it comes down to personal preference, I'm sure there's older guys than me out there very successful with just the saddle.
Very informative THP Im thinking of switching to a saddle because it seems like I can move to get comfortable before shots
I've been reduced to using a crossbow & shooting stick so I've got to use a stand . But would love to use a saddle if I can get my old bow back in hand ....
You will find that the saddle allows you to be rock steady with a crossbow or gun. No shooting sticks needed.
I've got the full Tethrd phantom setup whilst using modified Lonewolf sticks. and its changed everything. the best there is
Thanks for the video! Can you give us a breakdown of everything needed for the saddle hunting? Like all the seperate pieces needed, sticks etc... I'm thinking of trying them next year.
Saddle, platform, tether, and lineman's rope. Other than that you'll need GOOD sticks. I had some cheaper Hawk ones that I used walking hills in Ohio this year. Way too heavy. I went to the XOP mini sticks and bought aftermarket cable aiders. Look at tethrdnation.com or you're welcome to check out the hawk saddle or one of the others. Their is an entire website devoted to saddle hunting.
trophyline has packs where all you need is a way up the tree and a platform. On private property I use pole barn spikes as a ladder and platform at the top I use 4-6 nails around tree as platform. cheap and effective and won't get stolen.
Ok fellas, last year you did the top ten list which was awesome!
Will you do a gear review on the the stuff you used that lasted all season?
My uncle hunts via treestands the majority of the time. He's looking to reduce some weight, become a bit simpler. I just forwarded him this video. I do like the Saddle option. Lighter, smaller and able to shoot from every angle. Great video!
And this is why THP is my personal #1 hunting channel
I’ve converted to saddle hunting. Though there are some hunts I would want the hang on for those longer days
Great sales pitch for the saddle. I think u could have had more benefits for the Lone Wolf hang on if you tried, or had an agenda.
I don't know, I'm kinda with him after hang ons, climbers, ladder stands, and wooden stands I still think my saddle is the most stealthy and can go almost any tree. Not locked down to a saddle but do love it after I hunt on ground or in another stand. Takes practice though
Could you list the benefits for us Scott?
This questions for Aaron, if I may ask, which sticks are your favorite and why.
I just purchased the new Trophyline Covert Lite has my first saddle. It seems very comfortable putting it on but i have yet to try it with a tree.
Great Job thanks,I have been using my sit-drag for 4 years, thinking about upgrading to a more purposes built Saddle. again great job with the video.
Checking in with a Cruzr XC saddle and a custom DIY foot climber that’s a duel purpose climbing tool and platform!
Going to buy a saddle system glad you made this video ive used a hang on and don't mind it but with more propertys to hunt easier to get a saddle. If you get in a tree and don't like it its easy to just pick another in short time.
If I was a younger man I would love to try a saddle. My knees just started to go bad. I do have a light weight lock on and sticks. I'm not stopping!! All your videos are great guys!!👍👍
Heck yah! Geese with a bow...can't wait to see it! Definitely going saddle now. Appreciate the video. I have been waiting for someone to break it down for me, I just didn't know it.
I Get It...It's Lighter And More Compact, But Is The Hang On A Just A Little More Sturdier? You Guy's Are Awesome...I've Been A Hunter For Over 40 Year's...And I Learn More From You Gent's Every Day!!!!
Thanks for the info fellas! How about the sticks? What do you guys use for climbing sticks?
I use a saddle only but I think that you move around a lot more in a saddle.. I think over all the shooting positions in most cases are easier from a treestand minus the directly behind the tree. I still love my saddle though. When carrying in lots of gear it's nice to have a lot less weight.
Have any of THP guys ever used climbing stands? I enjoy summit stand for comfort and in Alabama there are plenty of straight trees to pick from, considering a saddle just for the weight difference when on public land.
Got my new foxpro x2s caller this week coyote hunting Florida public land already gotten a few...so much fun
Tethrd has the best customer service. They have emailed and regular mailed me after the last two seasons making sure my saddle is still in good working order and how to easily send it in for safety checks and if anything needs replaced, they make it very easy to get it done. Great product and great dudes over there at Tethrd!
Thanks!
I went with the jx3 hybrid! Paid 475 with the headrest nd extenders also extra packing straps! They are 399.99 just stock
Have you ever used a Trophy Line tree saddle? I still have mine from way back in 2010 but am looking into investing in a Tethrd Phantom. It's much lighter than what I have now but my Trophy Line has extra bags and pouches which I really like having. Thanks for the video.
Just gearing up myself with a new camcorder setup and some mics. Can't wait to get some good public land hunting footage out here in Montana. Awesome inspiration and knowledge!
Definitely switching to saddle this coming season. Appreciate the info!
Great review!! I’ve been curious about the saddle for a few years now and this definitely puts my questions to rest!!
I noticed that you only packed 3 sticks. About how high do you usually climb to hunt? Also what sticks do you use?
How is removing/adding layers in a saddle? I do a LOT of all day sits. You start out layered up and usually drop a layer or two as the day goes. It goes the other way with fronts coming in as well.
Jackets are easy. I started using the LWCG.5 with Aero hunter Flex so now if needed i can take boot off and put a hand warmer in it. Have not tried to change pant or bibs yet.
I purchased a saddle this last year last season and I enjoy it a lot better than sitting in a stand. I like my tethrd Menace.
Had a saddle for the first time this year. Used the one stick method. I think I may purchase Tetherd's climbing sticks when they come out. I would love to know what you guys thought of them if you got a chance to try them. I think Greg had a set in his truck on one video.
My buddy had some of them sticks they are light but loud. I bought the Beast sticks. 4 sticks with 1 step aider on each stick. I love my set up now. All in what you like.
I have used the phantom for 2 years now and I think they are ok. Running 2 pouches on it weighs it down and it always tries to fall off. I find the over all system to be noisy. Especially the platform. I am looking to get a hang on stand this year.
Could we maybe see some tips and tricks for turkey hunting because that’s going to be coming up?
It’s funny hearing that the hang on is big when I walk into the woods with a summit Goliath climber on my back. Looking to upgrade to a hang on for more tree options and lighter weight, possibly a saddle in the far future.
Did you see a big difference with shot angles? I’m trying to figure out how you get a shot off if you are shooting on your off hand side or behind your setup. Would you lean around the whole tree? I can definitely see a huge disadvantage when it comes to degrees of shooting coverage when in a saddle. Maybe make a video on how you approach different shooting angles?
Decent overview. The saddle is more mobile for sure but you have to get over the hanging process which can be scary at 18' etc.
“As you can see, he puts his name on it so that jake doesnt steal it”😂😂😂😂
Just so you know these videos help boost confidence for the coming Seasons! Too many times I couldn't setup right where I needed i like my climber but its time to switch! Once a again thp moral booster
You won't regret the switch. I haven't used mine since I got my saddle
Just what I wanted to see. Already have my hawk lite sticks. Now for the saddle. Was thinking about the menace. But maybe the mantis now. And what about Jake and the sturgeon spear fishing this year. Any footage?
Cruzr XC is a very comfortable saddle for bigger folks
You guys going to bring us the annual rabbit hunting tour this year went back through the vid archives can’t find the rabbit hunting videos from the past few yrs
They’ve never done rabbit hunting, kind of hard and somewhat pointless, just being a small game animal and all with not a lot of action.
@@lukebjorklund6405 Guessing your a newbie here at THP but the guys have always hunted rabbits and if you don’t believe me check out Midwest whitetail we’re the THP cut their teeth in the early days but glad you here watching the vids
@@davidtisch5237 I’m not a newbie here, followed this channel from the very first video when they started, on this THP channel they’ve never hunted rabbits, otherwise I’d know because I’ve been on the lookout.. maybe on Midwest Whitetail they used to but not here is what I was saying. Would look forward to it though if they did one.
@@lukebjorklund6405 Luke like I said before you new to THP but when the guys Aaron n Gregg were at Midwest whitetail editing videos n producing the show for Bill they always closed out the year rabbit hunting but you know bro 👍so if n when they post it know I told you so Mr don’t know sh#t
@@davidtisch5237 hey woah woah go back there now they’ve never posted a rabbit video on THP man that’s all I’m sayin I’m not new either quit assuming and I’m not trying argue on social media, just saying I’d like to see a rabbit video but they’ve never posted one on THP.
I'm only 16 and I stated hunting last year with my bow and I have had to figure out everything by myself and this channel and Seek One have helped me a lot because I'm hunting small, tight spaces in Urban areas and I just wanted to say thank you for all the great videos. I was also thinking about saving up for a saddle but I was wondering if you could just use a regular harness instead of buying the saddle?
Xop gear basically makes a harness that is a saddle
Try the method saddle by latitude outdoors, you will sell your mantis saddle just like I did. I bought the metal free saddle that uses the rope for the belt most comfortable saddle in the tree and walking.
I like hunting from the ground but really been debating on the saddle
Couple things to consider...They make a larger platform for us bigger guys...The small platform I couldnt get comfortable with but that little extra room made it very nice...I also throw cordage around it to keep the squeeky boot noise to a minimum...Also I have been told that they are coming out with a bigger saddle...Im at the upper limit of the current saddle but when it got to colder weather where I was layered more I couldnt get the saddle to fit any more...Def going to get the bigger saddle when it is available...This was my first year with my Tethrd and I LOVE IT!!!
I'm still using my new tribe evo which predates the tethrd products. It is the safest saddle that has been available. I think tethrd makes great products. I own and use the assessory strap and the platform, but new tribe saddles are better. For me, a stand with the saddle is the best all around. I purchased a lwcg .5 to use with my new tribe evo. It is perfect for my hunting style. Thats what is great about hunting, people can get it done it many different ways. Hunters are a big family. We need to stick together. God Bless.
Could you use a crossbow with a saddle?
Just thinking about stability/room for shooting
Please explain the knots and the rope device on your tether.
You guys are the best. The content is superior to the rest. Keep it coming THP.!!!
I’ll give everything a try to see, but bad back and knees makes me have to sit and move my legs more often than I want. How does the saddle work if you want to sit on a tree limb?
Any videos on 'choosing the right trees' for saddle hunting...
I hope Florida is in the turkey tour this season.
I really like the tree saddle. I hunted outta one and it’s fairly comfortable
Hang ons are by far the fastest, quietest way to get in and out of! However, with saddles they are super light, mobile, and comfortable. But they definitely have a learning curve. You must practice shooting from as it will completely change your form.
climbers are pretty quiet and pretty fast
Also I like to take a backpack how can I carry both effectively
As I’ve gotten a little older my balance doesn’t feel as good and I’ve noticed I seem to be less comfortable in my lock on due to a fear of falling. Kind of bizarre how it’s started. I’ve wondered if a saddle would be better since my weight would be in the saddle all the time, rather than when I stand on my big platform. Thoughts?
Awesome! I have never used either set up.
Does anyone know how long the Tethrd saddles last until you need to begin replacing stuff? I'm guessing it has a limited shelf life like anything else, for safety reasons.
Just got into watching all of your guys vids this year, you guys are the best
Did yous ever do like a safety video?? I'm new to this saddle hunting so I'm kinda scared to go up a tree lol.. I'm waiting on getting steps then I can try out my jx3 saddle to practice
Is there any way to put the climbing sticks vertical instead of horizontal when using the saddle ? Just thinking it would make the footprint smaller and less likely to catch brush.
With only 3 sticks you guys don't get very far up the tree. 10 feet I'm guessing. You never talked about that??
I know you guys are tethered boys and have your own hoodies but you should check out the trophy line hoodie with the upper pocket....its awesome for saddle hunting
Cant wait to hear the winner!! Hoping and praying
Very informative. Going to share with a couple of buddies. Thanks
Awesome videos. Question for ya's....how are you guys staying warm in a saddle during the later archery season? 50 degrees and less.
$500 BUCKS?!!!! Fer a saddle? It cracked me up when Worbe said these thing last forever, I've had this one fer 2 yrs, lmao! Good vidja guys very informative, ya'all had a Great season this year, enjoyed watchin, lookin forward to the shed vidja's!
Needle burrs on the hoodie was a nice touch