How To Keep Your SDI Output From Blowing Up

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  • @shankvfx7054
    @shankvfx7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Cannot believe this is still a problem in 2021, mind blowing.

  • @AndyThirtover
    @AndyThirtover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As an engineer this is so sad. It could be designed out for less than a dollar/euro/pound. You'd never get this issue with consumer grade products.

    • @poti732
      @poti732 ปีที่แล้ว

      ISNT THERE A LITTLE ADAPTER that could solve this issue?

  • @jamesbridges1107
    @jamesbridges1107 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Save yourself some time.
    Power then SDI
    SDI then power.
    I’m exhausted watching this…

  • @gilbertnguyen4704
    @gilbertnguyen4704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please just come to the point without the "jokes"

  • @cubul32
    @cubul32 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The SDI should be disconnected just at one end. Makes no sense to unplug both ends.

  • @wdigivideo
    @wdigivideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This issue is actually prevalent specifically with 12G SDI not 3G and HD-SDI. This is a great video as we should always follow best practices! However a few things can mitigate the issue.. 12G SDI cables by Canare and Belden that are shielded, and LEMO 2 and 3 pin power cables that have a shield as well. The issue is specifically problematic with D-TAP (unshielded) and 3G unshielded SDI cable.. At our rental facility we have brought in a full stock of shielded SDI 12G and got them in bright RED so we can differentiate visually between those and the unshielded variant. As well we are configuring all our Komodo and other 12G cameras to use Lemo power cables where possible rather then d-tap.. just an added 2c.. great vid though!

    • @ryanjosephdp
      @ryanjosephdp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      does this allow you to power down/up the RED without pulling the SDI? or should you still do that

    • @wdigivideo
      @wdigivideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ryanjosephdp While shielded 12G cables and lemo power does mitigate the issue significantly. Its a good habit to train yourself to remove SDI before removing power cables. Also to be clear, if both power and SDI cables are connected then powering up and down your Komodo will not damage the SDI port. Pulling the SDI cable is suggested to be done BEFORE removing the power cable (D-tap or Lemo). The issue is caused specifically when the SDI is connected without the power cable while a battery is installed allowing the SDI cable to conduct ground..

    • @productionresource3333
      @productionresource3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wdigivideo What about a sharkfin and hotswapping one of the batts while the other is still powering camera?

    • @wdigivideo
      @wdigivideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@productionresource3333 if you are keeping the camera powered up then the SDI can stay connected, so yes this will work. Realistically powering down with SDI connected should not damage the port just to swap a battery. However it’s always best to create a routine in your workflow so SDI last on and first off regardless of the situation means that you never put yourself in the situation where you should have removed it but didn’t. Creating routines helps you avoid task loading and making mistakes

    • @productionresource3333
      @productionresource3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wdigivideo I see. So the SDI short only occurs when the circuit is broken or completed, then.

  • @michaelquack2126
    @michaelquack2126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The problem is different. Many people power their systems with a single power source and power distributor plates. When one cable loses ground connection, the power for this might run over another device, frying this device because of the extra load. That happens with batteries as well, when everything runs from one V-lock battery.

    • @marekmucha2300
      @marekmucha2300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it's not a good idea to power camera and monitor from one V - Mount battery? I plan on doing so on canon C70

    • @VisualPursuit
      @VisualPursuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marekmucha2300 Unfortunately not. On the other hand this affects SDI much more than HDMI, and the C70 has no SDI. Risk assessment is up to you.

    • @marekmucha2300
      @marekmucha2300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VisualPursuit I do have SDI cross conversion monitor tho, so there is SDI out to consider.

  • @queefreak666
    @queefreak666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11 years using Canon C300, C300mkll and now C500mkll and I've never even heard of this dilemma. Been plugging, powering and unplugging SDI and power in every conceivable possibility with zero regard of these power spikes and never had any issues.

  • @prathamshenoy9840
    @prathamshenoy9840 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the issue is with plugging the power cable into the outlet? If the problem is one prong getting connected before the other, why don't you get all power outlets fixed with a switch? Most places here in Asia have a switch for a socket. The socket never directly receives electricity

  • @operacionifo
    @operacionifo 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So… power first and then sdi ok 👌. How the formula is when turning on when power is connected:
    1)Power---connect sdi-- turn on everything
    Or
    2)power--turn on everything -- connect sdi
    Sorry for dumb question

  • @jesseyules
    @jesseyules 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    RED should fix this with breaker or fuse. That's quite a design flaw for such an expensive system.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup! Some companies have made some cables that fix the issue.

    • @Johny15HD
      @Johny15HD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheObsessiveDP can you link us the cables with that feature? Thank you!

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheObsessiveDP What are these cables?

  • @jamesandcamera
    @jamesandcamera 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The TLDR is,
    just have your camera and accessories turned off and unplug wall power while you build or make changes to your camera rig.
    Seems simple, but an easy mistake to make when in a rush.

  • @Nathan.Willan
    @Nathan.Willan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 power→SDI→OPEN cam 2 Shutdown All → SDI → Remove power , SDI is the step2 allways

  • @James-wm4tt
    @James-wm4tt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the same thing with blackmagic cameras and their HDMI ports frying. Thank you for this!

  • @chrisw1462
    @chrisw1462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's pretend (sic) this video was two minutes shorter without all the pretending.

  • @Nathan.Willan
    @Nathan.Willan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What you said confuses us. Please talk less and operate more. We want to see the correct operation. As long as you don't speak.

  • @ratonstubey1306
    @ratonstubey1306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for making this. Two weeks ago I lost an SDI port on my Panasonic Varicam because I didn’t know this. It is very sad and will cost me $600 and about a week.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So sad!

    • @modernhumantv
      @modernhumantv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to hear. Have you had any issues since, once you followed the above protocol? I just fried a port on my Varicam LT as well. I'm paranoid about it and I'm scared to try plugging everything in again. Just need some peace of mind.

    • @wyldflowerfilmwerks6008
      @wyldflowerfilmwerks6008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@modernhumantv mine just fried in my varicam as well!

    • @modernhumantv
      @modernhumantv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@wyldflowerfilmwerks6008 What do you have plugged into your Varicam? After going through this whole problem, of course, in the middle of the biggest shoot of my life, I had a few things plugged in improperly. First, follow Red's protocol for unplugging / plugging in SDI cables (It's a PITA, but is good insurance). Sorry don't know link, but just search for it. Second, don't go overboard with splitters and / or power routing. I think this second issue was more the problem for me. I had changed my power routing for a steadicam rig and ran an external battery setup in a strange way. If running external power, just keep it simple and making sure to use high quality battery plates like Wooden Camera (with built in fuses) or the main plate on the back of the camera (which has a fuse). When I talked with the tech who fixed the camera at Panasonic, he said I essentially blew a 20amp fuse inside the camera, which meant there was a huge power surge. All the main boards were fine. That was good, because it only cost $1000 ;( instead of who knows what? But it was frustrating that, if Panasonic had made the fuse user accessible it would've been like a dollar to fix. DON'T TRY AND OPEN THE CAMERA. The engineer told me repeatedly, for any future problems not to try and open it, because it's extremely complicated inside and takes about 2 hours to get to. But camera manufacturers need to let people access these kind of things, on cameras this costly, because it would save a lot of money and time in the field. Once he fixed it and I followed the above two steps, we filmed for the next 6 weeks, not a single problem with the camera. Not sure what you did specifically, but hopefully you figure it out and it never happens again.

  • @zakaroonetwork777
    @zakaroonetwork777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CAMVATE 12G-SDI BNC Protector Current Isolation Cable ???

  • @abhishekjadhav4572
    @abhishekjadhav4572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10 downvotes from SDI port manufacturers :"D

  • @thegirlwithmemes
    @thegirlwithmemes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    anybody know if it's the same for HDMI's?

  • @Dimidth_Petkovski
    @Dimidth_Petkovski 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi...
    Can you pls send me the link of v mount battery adapter you used and the battery? Looks you built no power hungry set up....

  • @Dimidth_Petkovski
    @Dimidth_Petkovski 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a mantra
    'cable in when power on'
    'Cable out when power on'
    Rule Does not apply when not powered by mains ac supply.

  • @gethinevans8596
    @gethinevans8596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can use a SDI galvanic isolator. They sell ones rated for 12G for around $500 cheap insurance.

    • @gethinevans8596
      @gethinevans8596 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      L4KGI-01 - Overview
      LEN Limited
      Protects your Operators and Equipment from shock damage during installation...Eliminates interference during operation!
      The LEN galvanic isolators use broadband high-pass filters to provide isolation of DC currents between two pieces of equipment, whilst permitting the full bandwidth of the 4K SDI signal to pass, so avoiding problems of signal distortion and operator shocks caused by a voltage difference. This method far out-performs broadband transformers for SDI signals. Both the signal and the ground paths between equipment are isolated, there is no distortion of the signal.
      Another problem with coaxial cable use, that is solved by the LEN 4K Isolator, is in applications such as Outside Broadcast, where large voltages can build up on the outer cable shield due to different ground potentials at each end of the cable run, producing a spark as the cable is connected to its destination connector. This is particularly a problem in drier parts of the world.
      The LEN 4K SDI Video Galvanic Isolator is offered in two options. Option one is an in-line 'barrel', suitable for portable applications, and option two has a mounting flange at one end to facilitate rack-panel mounting, for applications such as tailboard feedthrough.
      Our Engineers at LEN have called on their long experience working with ultra-high frequency filter design for the Military to produce a product that is compliant to the SMPTE 6G and 12G specifications and fully tested on high end Vector Network Analyzers. We understand what is needed to design good product at such very high frequencies.
      Operation over coax at 4K / 12G has been awaiting the release of companion products to the LEN 4K Isolators, such as 12G rated BNC connectors and coaxial cable. These are now reaching the marketplace.

    • @modernhumantv
      @modernhumantv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gethinevans8596 Hi Gethin, I just purchased two of the LEN 3G barrel isolators. So these will not allow SDI ports to blow, regardless of how things are plugged in? I just recently had a Varicam LT SDI port blow and I'm scared to plug anything in at this point, just want to be careful. Thanks

    • @d_FLDE
      @d_FLDE หลายเดือนก่อน

      And still you should go power first, bnc last 🤷‍♂️😂

  • @slowpoke96Z28
    @slowpoke96Z28 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy fuck, 100 seconds of info in a 5 minute video. Good info though.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate the review

  • @martin_minds
    @martin_minds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have the same issue with a atem constellation switcher, but it feels very unrealistic to disconnect all external devices everytime in f.e. in a studio setup. but thanks for the info. stay safe.

  • @rumorscameras
    @rumorscameras ปีที่แล้ว

    just power with a battery first

  • @DJKoren
    @DJKoren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s something I didn’t know existed, but it’s definitely good to know now.

  • @shotbymatias9324
    @shotbymatias9324 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This never happens with the LF

  • @fluffymacaw933
    @fluffymacaw933 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I only have 3g sdi

  • @elijahyourdad3937
    @elijahyourdad3937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So should I turn on the camera before or after I plug in the Sdi cable?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally am not sure if it matters. What matters most is actually plugging in or unplugging the AC power cable.

    • @alexiskobalt7450
      @alexiskobalt7450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can leave the camera on if you have already powered off the device it is connected to (example: external monitor). Hot plugging SDI (or HDMI) between two running devices runs the risk of a short, especially if the BNC cable you are using is not high quality and shielded.

  • @zakaroonetwork777
    @zakaroonetwork777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you leave the sdi cable plugged into the display only?

    • @StephenStrangways
      @StephenStrangways 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. You only need to disconnect one end.

  • @tylerstewartmedia
    @tylerstewartmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does this happen when connecting a battery or only AC power?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They say it only happens with AC. But I would go the extra mile!

    • @joshhill9754
      @joshhill9754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It definitely does not happen when you use batteries.

    • @jasonhambach5528
      @jasonhambach5528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joshhill9754 It can definitely happen with batteries.

    • @funnymono
      @funnymono 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does this also apply if you are switching the power on/off to the monitor? Like pressing the power button. That would be a serious time sink.

    • @zzrgio
      @zzrgio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      better not to get confused and use one system only XD

  • @DanielScottFilms
    @DanielScottFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good advice here. Also applies to HDMI.

  • @nlimax
    @nlimax ปีที่แล้ว

    Shame on you red

  • @KienDLuu
    @KienDLuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So every time you replace the battery on set, you have to remove SDI’s? That seems like a design flaw to me.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. It seems like there should be a hardware fix.

    • @JimmyAlioto
      @JimmyAlioto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MVJohnsen great question!!! hopefully someone will respond.

    • @Dom-ho2wf
      @Dom-ho2wf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MVJohnsen did u find out the answer?

  • @bandamountcinematics
    @bandamountcinematics ปีที่แล้ว

    All you gotta do is just plug a sdi cord into the monitor and camera and use 95 canon batteries and or v mount why plug in the camera to the electricity wall anyway that’s no different then plugging a laptop into a car a/c plug outlet that takes outlets you’ll burn it cause of the power of the Volts

  • @queefreak666
    @queefreak666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems odd. Not one rental house I've ever used has ever had instructions for protocols on this issue. You would think their cameras would be getting bricked weekly if this were the case.

  • @ThatCampingLad
    @ThatCampingLad ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had 2 SmallHD cine5 break in their first use. 2 different cameras, once running from dtap once from Sony batteries. Followed protocol but SDI out stopped working. It’s a joke

  • @faithhouse6111
    @faithhouse6111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to you posting more content. I know you are probably busy with actual film as a real DP. Quick question, is there a type of filmmaker or scenario(use case) that would cause you to not recommend the Komodo?

  • @marshallandroxy
    @marshallandroxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, help a brother out.....if I've got a monitor and I'm powering the monitor with it's own Sony NPF battery.....and I'm powering my Komodo with a battery on the back........I would turn on my monitor first, connect the sdi to it.....turn on the camera, then connect the sdi to the camera ............. when turning off the camera ( to change battery on monitor etc...)...........just disconnect the sdi from camera first? Right? I really don't want to brick a $6000 camera. (no sdi = a brick)

  • @stela_camera_girl
    @stela_camera_girl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should the camera be On or just powered with the camera Off?
    Thanks for this vital information!

  • @egypratama7379
    @egypratama7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last in, first out

  • @ArtoflightProductions
    @ArtoflightProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually what you are doing, tapping the SDI connector with your finger like that is also a risk, as it gets burned due to static electrition as well.

    • @VovaVidilin
      @VovaVidilin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All while getting fat and dust inside that connector :)

  • @EstebanRiveraCinematographer
    @EstebanRiveraCinematographer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, quick random question - have you had any issues with the Tilta V-mount plate at all? Saw it come off at @1:18 I'm running the CORE SWX V-Mount Plate and it has lots of play, sometimes bricking the camera when bumped. Thinking of changing to a tilta one.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great Q! Yeah the tilta has more play than I’d like it to but I’ve moved it around and bumped it while the camera is powered up and haven’t lost connection. It’s annoying but it doesn’t seem to be a real problem for us.

  • @rinnywilson1400
    @rinnywilson1400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This happens when one pin hits the outlet before the other one" So....batteries are fine. Gotcha.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the name!

    • @Arcomade
      @Arcomade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They aren’t though. There’s a whole bunch of complaints about black magic pocket cinema cameras having the exact same issue on the hdmi port burning out. Most people thought it came from powering everything off the same battery, but it seems like even using separate power sources can cause the burn out eventually unless you follow proper plugging/unplugging procedure.

  • @AndresDiazlores
    @AndresDiazlores 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 months since the last video :(

  • @keylightfilmsYT
    @keylightfilmsYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information! I assume this shouldn't be a procedure if hot-swapping the canon BP's?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. It Doesn’t seem to be an issue with batteries.

  • @Alexproduction27
    @Alexproduction27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which sdi do you use?

  • @Owlbot
    @Owlbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This only applies to 6G/12G SDI, as an aside.

    • @mikeprins14
      @mikeprins14 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And 3G SDI? like the alphatron EVF 035-W?

    • @JacobVossFilms
      @JacobVossFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikeprins14 it’s much less common on 3G-SDI. It can happen but not very often

  • @JBGIMAGINATION
    @JBGIMAGINATION 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Call things what they are man, lol. Put it here put it there, connect that and this. Why can't you be more specific? also, not everyone has the same accessories as you.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Help me my man. Do you have a simpler way of saying “ unplug SDI before plugging or unplugging power” ???

  • @NathanKatash
    @NathanKatash ปีที่แล้ว

    so you need to turn on the camera befor sdi or just connect the power and you dont have to turn on the camera to connect the sdi
    ??

  • @brandonsmith1532
    @brandonsmith1532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate you treating this with professionalism!!! I get my Komodo here soon and I loved how simple you made this! BEST

  • @proyectosinteresantes5641
    @proyectosinteresantes5641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a fixed installation?? or TV studio ... you must to disconect every sdi every morning? ... I dont think so....

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you are replugging in AC plug = YES. if not, you should be golden,

  • @trondhines4413
    @trondhines4413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this also the case with HDMI?

    • @d_FLDE
      @d_FLDE หลายเดือนก่อน

      .. no
      Only bnc/sdi as there runs high current

  • @alexrouleau_
    @alexrouleau_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this an issue if you aren’t hardwiring your power to the grid? For example if I’m only powering off of a gold mount on a distribution box

  • @MAD_CHILLER
    @MAD_CHILLER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This applies to HDMi also…. Any video “signal” cable really.

    • @robertruffo2134
      @robertruffo2134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, not really. Only 12G SDI.

    • @MAD_CHILLER
      @MAD_CHILLER 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertruffo2134 um no it doesn’t ..

    • @robertruffo2134
      @robertruffo2134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MAD_CHILLER HDMI ports fail for other reasons. They don't like being connected "hot". That's actually what burns them. Other SDI are very unlikely to have this problem, which is why you almost never heard about this issue until a popular cam with 12G SDI was released..

    • @MAD_CHILLER
      @MAD_CHILLER 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertruffo2134the ground looping issue affects hdmi just as much as anything .
      It comes down to bad practices .
      In all things it’s should be be .
      Connect power first. Connect signal.. power on and shoot..
      Reverse for tear down.
      It’s that simple.

  • @sweeneagle16
    @sweeneagle16 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you’re running on battery only? Do you have to remove SDI cables before switching batteries?

  • @jahpuy_art479
    @jahpuy_art479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello with my red komodo today without doing it on purpose I forgot to unplug my sdi cable and I turned off my red and after I turned off my monitor I don't know if I burned my sdi port???

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re probably fine. Just remember to follow protocol next time!

  • @creativefilmz
    @creativefilmz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once everything is powered and SDI's are connected can the camera and or monitor be turned off and on? 2nd question if monitor battery needs to be changed the SDI cable has to come off first on both ends monitor and camera to swap the monitor battery.

  • @haroendaoud5037
    @haroendaoud5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this guy saved my ass

  • @jhuffman92
    @jhuffman92 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just received my Komodo and am running a Small HD 702 powered by the Canon LP batteries on the monitor. Do I need to be as worried about power surges around my SDI cable if the monitor has its own power source outside of the camera still? I know the super safe method is always removing the SDI, but just curious

  • @ynobe08
    @ynobe08 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi first time red user so I did power everything on and then connected my monitor. However after my shoot was done I accidentally shut off my camera before unplugging everything . Please tell me does it cause any damage or is it more of an impact when powering up?

  • @raildude270
    @raildude270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That seems like a huge pain. I would way rather use HDMI because I wouldn’t have to do any of that

  • @thatcherfreeman
    @thatcherfreeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In that screenshot of the doc by Arri at the beginning, doesn't it say to turn on your accessories *after* you've connected all the video and power cables?

  • @PaulePorter
    @PaulePorter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it also apply when working with batteries. NPF on SmallHD and BP on Komodo?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as I can tell, it’s only a problem with AC power so you *should* be fine. But for us, it’s better to just always follow the protocol, even with batteries

  • @Walidbadereddine
    @Walidbadereddine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the video this step is only for wall plug or changing batrry too ?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They say you should use these steps for any power source

  • @ryanjosephdp
    @ryanjosephdp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about when turning the camera on/off?

  • @starttofinishmediaco.2520
    @starttofinishmediaco.2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn. now i'm nervous to even touch the camera lol great vid

  • @videographiya
    @videographiya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool stickers. Mind to tell where did you order them?

  • @eastcoastsailingcenter7768
    @eastcoastsailingcenter7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol!!! i never had a blow out like that ... is it a red issue?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s and issue with All cameras as far as I know. I think 12g helps it to be a bigger issue

  • @IRoseSpidey
    @IRoseSpidey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope everyone is having a safe and amazing day! 😃💙 #NotificationSquad

  • @wescortez
    @wescortez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my first RED, good to know brotha thanks.

  • @massakidi
    @massakidi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is this relevant if you are using batteries?

  • @arikalasrireddy6620
    @arikalasrireddy6620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want camera second hand bro

  • @Pierluca72
    @Pierluca72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't get when you turn on the camera? I thought it was about NOT plugging or unplugging SDI when the monitor or the camera are on, but first connect SDI and then turn the camera and the monitor on

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nooo! Turn the camera on or off WITHOUT SDI attached. DO NOT attach SDI first

    • @funnymono
      @funnymono 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheObsessiveDP So every time I switch my camera ON or OFF to save on battery , I have to remove the cable? That seems like a huge time sink.

    • @StephenStrangways
      @StephenStrangways 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@funnymononot when you turn it on or off, only when you attach/remove a battery or power cable.

  • @TurquoiseFilms
    @TurquoiseFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info! What ab batteries?

  • @mij4122
    @mij4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So lets assume you are using a larger V lock battery with the same tilta plate you have. You can not access the SDI port after the battery is on the camera. How would you approach that situation

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We’ve used a shark fin before. It only allows for one battery to be used but it clears the ports on the bottom.

    • @StephenStrangways
      @StephenStrangways 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just unplug the BNC from the monitor. You can leave the other end connected to the camera.

  • @seanchakou2154
    @seanchakou2154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello guy, good demonstration thank a lot. juste a question please do we have the same process or issue with hdmi ( remove all hdmi cablesbefore plugging and unpluggin power)?

    • @Grainydazed
      @Grainydazed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

    • @seanchakou2154
      @seanchakou2154 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Grainydazed thanks

  • @ahmadkhansial
    @ahmadkhansial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He said 1 lac time Remove SDI

  • @Thejohnventura
    @Thejohnventura 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should the monitor and Komodo be off before I remove the SDI?

    • @Thejohnventura
      @Thejohnventura 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard from another youtuber to NOT turn off the Komodo but remove SDI cables first. Can you clarify?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Remove sdi cables before doing anything with power - plugging in or unplugging.

  • @AlexDerrick_DP
    @AlexDerrick_DP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video. So does the SGI cable go out all of a sudden, or does it flicker on and off. Last night on set, my monitor was going out intermittently whenever I bumped the cable. I think this might be a different issue, but I changed the cable (thin 12G SDI) and it still seemed to be a little wonky. But it was fine once I moved from gimble to tripod and wasnt knocking the cable so much.
    I'm going to try rn w/ another thicker 12G cable I have. Maybe it's the cable not my SGI port. Fingers crossed.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Feels like a cable issue. The whole sdi jack on camera gets fried when this issue occurs.

    • @AlexDerrick_DP
      @AlexDerrick_DP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheObsessiveDP You're right, I changed to a different cable and it's working fine. Now to find a right angle 12G SGI slim cable =D

  • @issyD16
    @issyD16 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg early and first

  • @DANELVES
    @DANELVES 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You

  • @renstarhurst3302
    @renstarhurst3302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much

  • @screenboiler
    @screenboiler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff

  • @A10Jedi
    @A10Jedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get to the point

    • @d_FLDE
      @d_FLDE หลายเดือนก่อน

      .. 3 minutes of time that saves the whole team big issues. Becoming a 1st AC .. learn the craft. ;)
      Tired of dudes like you on set

  • @vstudio.pictures
    @vstudio.pictures 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank's👌

  • @bigchiefcinema9654
    @bigchiefcinema9654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing info, thank you for this

  • @Justin_Allen
    @Justin_Allen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blackmagic cameras have this same issue with HDMI cables. I would expand this to say Remove all video cables before adding or taking away power.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good call

    • @AustralianImage
      @AustralianImage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Incorrect. All cables should be connected first and then the power switched on, and switched off before removing cables. Use a V-mount battery plate with an on/off switch, or if using say an NP-F battery adapter, do not attach battery until everything is plugged in. Connecting anything while the power is on will very likely guarantee a burned out HDMI port. SDI works differently and even ARRI put out a bulletin saying connect the power cables first, then the SDI and then turn on power. Quote:
      'To prevent this damage to the SDI outputs, ALWAYS make sure to plug in the power cable first and THEN
      connect the BNC cable. Once power and BNC cables are connected, it is OK to power the camera or
      accessory on or off. Also, ALWAYS make sure to disconnect the BNC cable first and THEN disconnect the
      power cable. '

    • @j.oakley9588
      @j.oakley9588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AustralianImage dammit. This is pretty much the exact opposite of what he’s saying in the video. Your description is how I have understood it as well. I have seen many discussions, specifically with Blackmagic cameras, about this issue. So regardless of whether it’s HDMI or SDI, we connect everything first and then power everything on? I’ve powered my camera on and off with and without accessories a million times. And at some point I know I have missed the steps up. Maybe I got lucky. But I want to do it right. As of late, I have been powering my monitor off an NPF attached to my rig, and my camera powered by V lock battery-on a plate that has an on/off switch.
      Also, what if there is no on/off switch on the battery/plate?
      And what about the little things, like powering the camera down between set ups and whatnot? We are not expected to disconnect everything every time we turn the camera off, correct? Because I don’t do that. This is all pretty confusing to be honest.

    • @AustralianImage
      @AustralianImage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j.oakley9588 What happens is that many people equate SDI requirements with HDMI requirements. As I've noted before, ARRI issued a bulletin on how to avoid damaging SDI (BNC) connectors and that process is quite specific because of the nature of SDI. In theory, you can plug and unplug HDMI cables as you would USB cables, but there's always the risk, so with cameras and monitors I always power off before connecting/disconnecting cables. If a battery plate has no on/off switch, just make certain all the devices are off and remove the battery first.

    • @j.oakley9588
      @j.oakley9588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AustralianImage copy that. Same too with SDI and HDMI connections I assume? Like if I hooked an evf into my monitor via SDI, but my monitor is receiving the camera’s signal via HDMI m. There’s no SDI on my camera but I use a portkeys BM5 which has an SDI out.

  • @dyno-filmmakerdop8913
    @dyno-filmmakerdop8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this procedure is done only with the connection to the electricity network or also with the use of vlock batteries?

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as I know, the concern is with AC power only. But why not be safe and do it with batteries as well?

    • @badGamr
      @badGamr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This applies to batteries as well. You can even blow an SDI port by using the same battery to power the camera and a seperate monitor via d-tap.

    • @modernhumantv
      @modernhumantv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badGamr Yeah, I blew my Varicam LT port with a Gold Mount battery and P-Tap running to Atomos monitor and camera, for a steadicam rig. So, just to confirm, if I follow the power first SDI second rule, I should avoid this problem? Thanks

    • @badGamr
      @badGamr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@modernhumantv Running separate power to the monitor and camera is the solution.

    • @modernhumantv
      @modernhumantv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badGamr I've heard just the opposite. Why two power sources instead of one? The idea is to get the monitor and camera on a common ground, before connecting SDI. With multiple battery sources it seems like following the power procedure would be much more tedious and difficult to follow. Also, most professional setups utilize one power supply, that's why Alexas and Reds have power outputs.

  • @theolufson
    @theolufson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Golden

    • @anthonyscopino4934
      @anthonyscopino4934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve owned Komodo for around 9 months now, and haven’t had any issues really. With that being said I just want to implement this safety as part of my workflow. I used to follow the protocol that Phil Holland put out for Red. So ideally would you recommend having both camera, monitor, and accessories such as Red Control, FIZ units etc., powered before inserting the BNC cable? Or just make sure everything has power flowing such as cam, monitor, FIZ, Teradek etc., whether on/off?

  • @MicahBrownMedia
    @MicahBrownMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip! Thanks!

  • @stuartswindellcampoy8483
    @stuartswindellcampoy8483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im guessing you turn on every equipment before you connect sdi

  • @almughanni
    @almughanni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Power" means when the camera & monitor are switched on or also when they're switched off but the batteries are plugged in?
    My question is, can I turn on/off my camera and monitor while the SDI cable is connected? Should it be fine as long as I'm not changing batteries?

    • @modernhumantv
      @modernhumantv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Turning your camera / monitor on and off, after you've plugged everything in (in the correct order of course), you have established a common ground and you shouldn't have any problem doing that. It's when you plug power cables in and the pins don't connect in the correct order and that then sends power through the SDI cable and completes the circuit. Unfortunately, it's sending the power into a sensitive low voltage SDI chip, which is why it gets fried.

  • @wyat5011
    @wyat5011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry newbie so here is a newbie question--can you turn off the monitor , then remove the sdi and then the power cable? Same plug the power , then turn on the monitor and then connect the sdi

  • @willvazquez3218
    @willvazquez3218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This goes to show how crappy a RED Komodo is. I’ve used tons of different Alexa bodies in my career and with Teradeks and never done this and nothing has ever happened.

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      www.arri.com/resource/blob/194752/26e7a4ca07e7a8f0ce038b23109b216c/download-technical-information-data.pdf

    • @TheObsessiveDP
      @TheObsessiveDP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unfortunately this problem applies to all cameras with SDI outputs.

    • @solofxug
      @solofxug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please note, its a very common issue with 12G sdi. 3G sdi is more robust but wouldn't rule them out as I've also broken a 3g sdi once but several 12G sdi

    • @cyberacers
      @cyberacers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same to me nothing happened

    • @chronicmisadventuresofslac374
      @chronicmisadventuresofslac374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheObsessiveDP Thanks for the Arri link. Does Red have the same type of doc? I own a Red Scarlet-W with RED DSMC2 V-Lock I/O Expander and have never had problems with the SDI output, but I primarily run off of bricks. Would this type of issue only effect the I/O expander and not the camera brain?