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Home brew - In addition to advantage v metal armour, advantage should also apply to targets covered in some other conductor, such as salt water. ie an an oceanic adventure, if you are boarded by aquatic monsters from the water, you should get advantage for that attack as well.
The thing I like about this is that it gives the Wizard the ability to defend themselves if someone tries to get in their face. Especially since Wizards have piss poor weapon proficiency.
Ask your DM for permission: I used the shocking grasp as a defibrillator as to bring them from death giving a creature a full set of death rolls extra on success. Details: the player makes a spell attack on a creature who is pronounced dead that has a body. On a successful roll you create a more stable spell without turning them to crisp. On a failed save. They remain dead. On a critical failure they turn to ash. On a critical success they are stable with 1 hp. *You have advantage on roll if you have the healers feat as a prerequisite*
You forgot one bonus to blocking reactions. Enemy spell-caster's can't use counter-spell or shield etc. Good if you are in a party of spell casters or if you quicken your main spell after. Or quicken the grasp after doing your main attacks if you multi classed.
I found it quite useful as a Bladesinger wizard to have a melee spell that takes away the enemies reaction. And it works well with bird familiars since they typically have the flyby feature so if you need to clear a path for yourself or a party member they can do it with their high movement and even if they miss they won't take opportunity attacks and disappear. Remember the DM threw a early-campaign boss at us which was some big dude with a magic shield.... made of metal. (The familiar killed that boss... actually i think my familiar had like the 2nd most kills that campaign, i really did weaponize that owl every chance i got).
Should work if the entirety of the weapon is metal, like an iron hafted (*ahem*) hammer. But he weapon itself could be damaged if it were the likes of a sword with a leather bound wooden hilt that wouldn't allow smooth conduction.
My Storm sorcerer would use this as a light hearted prank on people when shaking hands and in late game heal himself for a quick 5d8 with, wind soul, and a blue dragon mask. Also pretty funny to stand in your own AOEs and heal while your enemies die.
I had a player shock the floor of a iron clad ship magnetically holding a guy in full plate in place. i know super loose but i let it pass as DM becouse it was a cool idea. I then had the player invent a new spell to do that form then on.
@@ChancesSpellbook it was about to turn TPK and one of the plays came up with the idea and i rolled a d100 to is if it would worked . i rolled 95 so it worked . it made more scene back then because it was a first level spell and cantrips were not a thing.
Wow. The only melee cantrip? And it gives a no-reaction capability? This is the best disengage action ever! Get draconic bloodline or (the best option in the game) giant soul if you don't trust the chance of it happening though, it toughens you up for a potential melee attack against you.
It's a favorite of mine for sure! There's a few melee Cantrips but this is one of the only ones that require an unarmed strike. I honestly find it to have so much utility potential, and very cool thematics to boot!
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Something to remember is that familiars can deliver Touch range spells, which I believe Shocking Grasp to be the only touch range damage cantrip, so for a little combo ready the spell on your turn, then have your familiar go up to an enemy at which point you cast it. Then depending on if you hit you either have them disengage if needed or if not help your next attack. Effectivly 100ft range and you don't even need to see the enemy Unfortunately I've never really went for this myself, I very much like how unique it is, but I don't like to leave my escape up to a roll and even if I do back away the enemy can likely just follow me anyways and attack as normal
the caster had a familiar ride on one of the melee classes, depending on this and that mostly to be whichever went right before or after the familiar. familiar would use help to give the one its riding advantage and on the casters turn if it was wearing metal zappy zappy.
I had that same I idea like ten minutes ago came across this video while researching the reliability of it, It doesn’t say in the spell how much electricity it generates but if we go by the amount of health an average commoner has it could kill them instantly which is more than enough power for a coilgun of that type
I plan on playing a Hill Dwarf Blue Draconic Sorcerer in next campaign and reflavoring him to be like a monk with Chidori-like unarmed strike (Naruto fans will understand what I mean). I know that it wont be optimal but who cares, I think its cool :)
Shocking Grasp VS Sword Burst - Oath of Ancients Paladin taking the Magic Initiate Feat. I'm thinking of taking Green Flame Blade as my other cantrip, then either Shield OR Absorb Elements. Thematically my Half-Elf Paladin was raised with the intentions of becoming a Druid.
Hmm it would depend on playstyle! If you were planning on retreating, then Shocking Grasp would be your guy. If you're willing to die before you lose, then sword burst!
Fun fact you can do this in real life it's static electricity I don't feel like explaining it but all you do is get your socks rub it on a carpet it shouldn't have tall hairs it should be a normal nice carpet if you touch metal you get shocked touch someone else they get shocked putting water on yourself or lotion will get rid of the static but also a fun think get a balloon rub it on your hair then put it close to your hair but don't let the gallon touch it your hair will rise up!
Would the second effect of this spell, target can't take reactions until the start of its next turn, work against a creature immune to lightning damage such as a blue dragon? I feel it wouldn't since the creature is immune to the damage and "jolt" of the attack that I feel takes it's reaction away. Any feedback?
I pretty much agree. Doesn't seem a creature already with sufficient natural electrical energy to project it into an attack would be susceptible to a paralytic shock effect; unless, maybe an incoming electrical attack were undeniably, greatly in excess of whatever said creature's accustomed to.
Why does armor give advantage? Would it act as a lightning rod or a faraday cage? Wouldn't the padding under the armor act also to insulate the target? I get the game mechanic, just some food for thought.
Can warlocks use this spell? I have a plague doctor warlock, and i want to use shocking grasp(with some homebrew) as a weaponised defribulator, or as a normal one.
The only downside to this was that my DM did not allow me to have range on this. So unfortunately i could not Emperor Palpatine “Unlimited power” people rip me
So im making a monk in a party with 2 magic users (sorcerer and warlock), and our only other melee user is a fighter who heavily went into ranged. So knowing im the first line of defense. On our first session, we ended up facing a dragon. I started by rushing it with my weapons, and our magic users and fighter kept hitting it with ranged weapons, i then noticed my mistake of if i play such short ranged, im in the possibility of getting hit if a nat1 gets rolled.... So i decided when we reach lvl 4, im getting Initiate feat, with the spells booming blade, absorb element, and shocking grasp. I can start the match or whenever i sense a fight is gonna happen and use shocking grasp, then set up booming blade, and use a reaction to catch any random elemental attacking coming my way (our magic users already set eveery area we've fought in on fire, so absorb is gonna be useful). I think it's smart enough as to deal enough damage at once to make sure i dont have to spend every turn fearing my party will roll enough nat1s to kill me
I really like where you're going with this! I might also consider looking into the War Caster Feat, that way you could cast spells using your reactions as well!
@@ChancesSpellbook actually our entire group is a bunch of noobs and since i played a wizard last time, im literally the only one other than our previous DM who knows any spells, so we made it so we can ignore casting materials (just for fun and stuff). but yah, that opportunity attack alone is good enough cause i've been thinking of a good way to use this without limiting all my endless attacks i get as a monk
"Sahing Throw: Melee vs AC" This isn't proper 5e terminology and uselessly confusing. There is no "Saving Throw" so maybe don't mention the term. Also it is a Melee SPELL Attack, important distinction, and Attack rolls are always "vs AC" so pointing that out is kinda redundant. You also forgot to mention Shocking Grap's primary use, which is tazing an enemy caster's balls while shouting "Counterspell THIS!". And maybe get rid of that pretend drawing hand, it's really obnoxious and distracting.
Thank you so much for the criticism, I'll definitely remedy the "Melee VS AC" in future videos. Sadly I can't really do anything about the hand at the moment. I really do like your method of using Shocking Grasp, it's a great addition haha!
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Home brew - In addition to advantage v metal armour, advantage should also apply to targets covered in some other conductor, such as salt water. ie an an oceanic adventure, if you are boarded by aquatic monsters from the water, you should get advantage for that attack as well.
That would be pretty AWESOME!
The thing I like about this is that it gives the Wizard the ability to defend themselves if someone tries to get in their face. Especially since Wizards have piss poor weapon proficiency.
Exactly I love the usefulness if this cantrip!
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Ask your DM for permission: I used the shocking grasp as a defibrillator as to bring them from death giving a creature a full set of death rolls extra on success.
Details: the player makes a spell attack on a creature who is pronounced dead that has a body. On a successful roll you create a more stable spell without turning them to crisp. On a failed save. They remain dead. On a critical failure they turn to ash. On a critical success they are stable with 1 hp.
*You have advantage on roll if you have the healers feat as a prerequisite*
You forgot one bonus to blocking reactions. Enemy spell-caster's can't use counter-spell or shield etc. Good if you are in a party of spell casters or if you quicken your main spell after. Or quicken the grasp after doing your main attacks if you multi classed.
I found it quite useful as a Bladesinger wizard to have a melee spell that takes away the enemies reaction.
And it works well with bird familiars since they typically have the flyby feature so if you need to clear a path for yourself or a party member they can do it with their high movement and even if they miss they won't take opportunity attacks and disappear.
Remember the DM threw a early-campaign boss at us which was some big dude with a magic shield.... made of metal. (The familiar killed that boss... actually i think my familiar had like the 2nd most kills that campaign, i really did weaponize that owl every chance i got).
Get a metal Weapon and cast Shocking Grasp then you now have an electrical weapon.
Haha I'd allow it!
That's Booming Blade
@@someguyfromarchives booming blade is thunder (as in the sonic boom) not lightning damage.
Should work if the entirety of the weapon is metal, like an iron hafted (*ahem*) hammer. But he weapon itself could be damaged if it were the likes of a sword with a leather bound wooden hilt that wouldn't allow smooth conduction.
It's over Straud, I have the high ground!
Works well with expeditious retreat, HINT HINT! (look at expeditious retreat video)
Haha thanks for the plug as well!
My Storm sorcerer would use this as a light hearted prank on people when shaking hands and in late game heal himself for a quick 5d8 with, wind soul, and a blue dragon mask. Also pretty funny to stand in your own AOEs and heal while your enemies die.
I had a player shock the floor of a iron clad ship magnetically holding a guy in full plate in place. i know super loose but i let it pass as DM becouse it was a cool idea. I then had the player invent a new spell to do that form then on.
That does sound very cool!
@@ChancesSpellbook it was about to turn TPK and one of the plays came up with the idea and i rolled a d100 to is if it would worked . i rolled 95 so it worked . it made more scene back then because it was a first level spell and cantrips were not a thing.
Wow. The only melee cantrip? And it gives a no-reaction capability? This is the best disengage action ever! Get draconic bloodline or (the best option in the game) giant soul if you don't trust the chance of it happening though, it toughens you up for a potential melee attack against you.
It's a favorite of mine for sure! There's a few melee Cantrips but this is one of the only ones that require an unarmed strike. I honestly find it to have so much utility potential, and very cool thematics to boot!
Luigi: "Thunder!"
Mage hand shocking grasp
Man I wish it worked like that!
It also works as a defibrillator.
Saving Throw? You mean "spell attack"
Haha correct! Sorry about that
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I had a play this spell with metal chains to shock people from 15 feet a way.
Very interesting!
Something to remember is that familiars can deliver Touch range spells, which I believe Shocking Grasp to be the only touch range damage cantrip, so for a little combo ready the spell on your turn, then have your familiar go up to an enemy at which point you cast it. Then depending on if you hit you either have them disengage if needed or if not help your next attack. Effectivly 100ft range and you don't even need to see the enemy
Unfortunately I've never really went for this myself, I very much like how unique it is, but I don't like to leave my escape up to a roll and even if I do back away the enemy can likely just follow me anyways and attack as normal
the caster had a familiar ride on one of the melee classes, depending on this and that mostly to be whichever went right before or after the familiar.
familiar would use help to give the one its riding advantage and on the casters turn if it was wearing metal zappy zappy.
Flyers can just move in, shock and move out back into the air!
With find familiar, you can create a Pikachu.
I play an artificer who inscribes spells like acid splash and shocking grasps onto rocks for my slingshot
Long story short I become green arrow very quickly
Haha That's awesome!
I had a player use shocking grasp , a ball bearing, copper wire and a iron tub to make a rail gun for an assassin mission. It worked surprisingly
The rule of cool!
@@ChancesSpellbook ya i only let it slide because it was a real clever idea.
I had that same I idea like ten minutes ago came across this video while researching the reliability of it, It doesn’t say in the spell how much electricity it generates but if we go by the amount of health an average commoner has it could kill them instantly which is more than enough power for a coilgun of that type
@@qu3stow331 yes and no your only going to get one about as powerful as a hand gun at best but ya.
I plan on playing a Hill Dwarf Blue Draconic Sorcerer in next campaign and reflavoring him to be like a monk with Chidori-like unarmed strike (Naruto fans will understand what I mean). I know that it wont be optimal but who cares, I think its cool :)
Shocking Grasp VS Sword Burst - Oath of Ancients Paladin taking the Magic Initiate Feat.
I'm thinking of taking Green Flame Blade as my other cantrip, then either Shield OR Absorb Elements.
Thematically my Half-Elf Paladin was raised with the intentions of becoming a Druid.
Hmm it would depend on playstyle! If you were planning on retreating, then Shocking Grasp would be your guy. If you're willing to die before you lose, then sword burst!
Fun fact you can do this in real life it's static electricity I don't feel like explaining it but all you do is get your socks rub it on a carpet it shouldn't have tall hairs it should be a normal nice carpet if you touch metal you get shocked touch someone else they get shocked putting water on yourself or lotion will get rid of the static but also a fun think get a balloon rub it on your hair then put it close to your hair but don't let the gallon touch it your hair will rise up!
Would the second effect of this spell, target can't take reactions until the start of its next turn, work against a creature immune to lightning damage such as a blue dragon? I feel it wouldn't since the creature is immune to the damage and "jolt" of the attack that I feel takes it's reaction away. Any feedback?
I pretty much agree. Doesn't seem a creature already with sufficient natural electrical energy to project it into an attack would be susceptible to a paralytic shock effect; unless, maybe an incoming electrical attack were undeniably, greatly in excess of whatever said creature's accustomed to.
mix this with shape water and a waterskin and you have shock traps
Haha very nice!
Why does armor give advantage? Would it act as a lightning rod or a faraday cage? Wouldn't the padding under the armor act also to insulate the target? I get the game mechanic, just some food for thought.
Yep.. but lets not tell the DM about it
like metal armor specifically, like it’s conducting electricity
@@luisriverarede7558 in a real life scenario that would sabe them because of the Faraday cage effect as descrived
Can warlocks use this spell? I have a plague doctor warlock, and i want to use shocking grasp(with some homebrew) as a weaponised defribulator, or as a normal one.
You said warlock is when you meant wizard and I was like “wait did he say the sorcerer and warlock got something the wizard didn’t?!”
Cmon wizards, throw the sorcerer a bone
Sorry about that haha, it might be worth noting that Wizards do not get access to Chaos Bolt!
The only downside to this was that my DM did not allow me to have range on this. So unfortunately i could not Emperor Palpatine “Unlimited power” people rip me
So im making a monk in a party with 2 magic users (sorcerer and warlock), and our only other melee user is a fighter who heavily went into ranged. So knowing im the first line of defense. On our first session, we ended up facing a dragon. I started by rushing it with my weapons, and our magic users and fighter kept hitting it with ranged weapons, i then noticed my mistake of if i play such short ranged, im in the possibility of getting hit if a nat1 gets rolled.... So i decided when we reach lvl 4, im getting Initiate feat, with the spells booming blade, absorb element, and shocking grasp. I can start the match or whenever i sense a fight is gonna happen and use shocking grasp, then set up booming blade, and use a reaction to catch any random elemental attacking coming my way (our magic users already set eveery area we've fought in on fire, so absorb is gonna be useful). I think it's smart enough as to deal enough damage at once to make sure i dont have to spend every turn fearing my party will roll enough nat1s to kill me
I really like where you're going with this! I might also consider looking into the War Caster Feat, that way you could cast spells using your reactions as well!
@@ChancesSpellbook actually our entire group is a bunch of noobs and since i played a wizard last time, im literally the only one other than our previous DM who knows any spells, so we made it so we can ignore casting materials (just for fun and stuff). but yah, that opportunity attack alone is good enough cause i've been thinking of a good way to use this without limiting all my endless attacks i get as a monk
Can I use this cantrip as defibrillators???
Why do you say DIE 8?
Haha I've actually been asked that a couple times, I think its a Canadian thing. Literally everyone I've played with has referred to them as 'die'.
"Sahing Throw: Melee vs AC"
This isn't proper 5e terminology and uselessly confusing. There is no "Saving Throw" so maybe don't mention the term. Also it is a Melee SPELL Attack, important distinction, and Attack rolls are always "vs AC" so pointing that out is kinda redundant.
You also forgot to mention Shocking Grap's primary use, which is tazing an enemy caster's balls while shouting "Counterspell THIS!".
And maybe get rid of that pretend drawing hand, it's really obnoxious and distracting.
Thank you so much for the criticism, I'll definitely remedy the "Melee VS AC" in future videos. Sadly I can't really do anything about the hand at the moment.
I really do like your method of using Shocking Grasp, it's a great addition haha!