Subsequent to the zoom, Jeff and I got together and I will be able to sell both the speaker cable and power cables mentioned in the video and NOT available on their website. Members get special pricing. See description of video for my contact information or check out my webpage - audiophilejunkie.com/blue-jeans-cable/
Thanks Jason! at 38:45 I reference Enrico Fermi, when I should have said Michael Faraday. I'm sure an EE can find some other mistakes or poorly explained concepts in here- but the gist should be right on!
I ordered from blue jeans four times from interconnects to speaker cables, and every time their product delivered great sound for me. And their shipping was lightning fast.
You are Right there are Ladies in the Audiophile category, so GUY'S don't forget about your Wives or other Partners, they May Like to have their OWN SYSTEM! BUILDING one for my Wife right Now, Married 44 years and I asked her what she thought about having her own stuff and she Lit Up!!! Gonna cost me but Sooooo What!! Makes me Happy Too.
With a formal education in electronics, FCC licensed to design and run TV stations, a decade in the Audio industry from on the bench repair to repping products like Marantz,... I was a cable denier. If the gage was big enough.... Then one of my audiophile sons started comparing cables against his Blue Jeans Star Quad speaker cables. He found Blue Jeans Belden 5000 series to be far better. Then my other audiophile son replaced his with BJ 10 White with noticeable improvement. So I replaced my BJ Star Quads with DYI shotgunned Monster cables. I measured a 4-5db increase in dynamic range. My amp ran measurably cooler, did not shut down as much...
That's interesting, what gauge/model Monster cable are you using? My latest DIY 4 meter cables sound (& look) great, utilising 2 lengths of good quality 14awg OFC per channel, first I separated the 2 lengths of cables to get 4 individual wires, then I carefully hand braided the 4 wires together, before covering them with single braided black nylon sleeving. The clear clad copper braided wires are still visible through the single braided black tech flex, fora bit of suttle gold/copper bling, the ends are finished with cable pants and terminated with diy banana plugs made from 30mm lengths of 4mm pure copper tubing, crimped over the wire. I cut a slit along the last 10mm of copper tube, they fit snuggly into the binding posts. For my next experiment I'm going to try removing the nylon jacketing and replacing it with tfp plumbers tape for improved dialectics
If you want to understand what hooking an amp up to a speaker does to the sound of the speaker, rap on the woofer when the speaker is not connected. Then connect the amp and rap it again. The sound will be completely different. Now disconnect the amp, short out the speaker connectors at the speaker and rap it. It will be different again. That difference includes the wire. I used this as a demo of Damping Factor when I did seminars on audio.
Interested in some of their power cable. Already using them between my 8 channels of amp and my Linkwitz ASP 2.0. Over time I will rewire with their XLR interconnects - probably need a few pair of those.
That was really cool. Great guy. I mean he's got a pinball machine right? 😁 I own a couple of pairs of low capacitance RCA interconnects from them. And they're really good sounding cables IMHO. They look good too. And certainly didn't cost a lot. I'm into the speaker cables you're showing here. But down the road. I'm using long runs right now (like 23 ft long!). So maybe after I switch this around to a much shorter run I'll grab some. I'm not a big cable guy. But like you were saying. If I'm spending all this money on nice gear. It only makes sense to buy some decent cables to hook it all together. And that includes power cables too. Nothing too fancy, but solid stuff. In my case I'm using Pangea power cords. And for anyone looking for another nice alternative. World's Best Cables are really solid too. Amazon sells them. ✌️
They forgot to mention that, when connecting high-end cables, be sure to use an ample amount of snake oil, and a copious helping of placebo. And never never put on a blindfold while listening.😅
For anyone wondering why a cable matters in audio. The electrons are one of the smallest building blocks of our universe. How small an electron is? It's like 1/100,000 of an atom or smaller. An electron is so small when an electron travels through a wire - to the electron it's moving in a vast empty space. Because from the perspective of an electron, even an atom is a vast empty space. So, what matter is the electro magnetic field in that space. Like a comet travels in the space is affected by the gravitational fields of other planets, an electron is basically traveling in an empty space and is affected by the electro magnetic fields of other atoms. That's why the grain structure of a wire or whether the wires are twisted together or not - they all matters. Everything in our universe has an electro magnetic field because an atom is kept together by an electro magnetic field. Therefore, every meta physical things in the universe have and are affected by the electro magnetic fields. An electron travels through a solid wire. But, to an electron - it's travelling vast empty space filled with electro magnetic fields from trillion atoms - just like a spaceship traveling in the space filled with gravitational fields from trillion stars.
And…they don’t travel either, they simply exchange energy like the balls on a pendulum collide energy is transferred. Your explanation is the first attempt I’ve seen to bring these ideas to the masses recently so well done.
One thing not mentioned is impedance matching. Some would suggest this is an important factor. The cable is after all part of the speaker system. Any thoughts here?
It might be more accurate to say that velocity and impedance are interrelated, so that when impedance goes up velocity goes down. this happens across the audio spectrum, but the curve gets sharper in the low frequency end. That's about as good as I understand it, not being an electrical engineer.
Jason - what wire is B.J. offering for the Octoquads? B.J. has three options on their menu for their other cables - Canare, Mogami and Belden. I think they are using Belden here.
Please be careful with long speaker cable runs the MBL Xtreme mentioned in this video with the 60ft run has distortion at much lower volume than the MBL xtreme system at our store. I would definitely try to stay away from long speaker cable runs. At lower volumes speakers work well
This might be a good spot to bring in actual measurements of electron flow through wire that can help explain the differences in wires that so far have just been claims. Actual measurable causation. Watch how a signal transient travels through wires to the load. "Watch electricity hit a fork in the road at half a billion frames per second" th-cam.com/video/2AXv49dDQJw/w-d-xo.html
Now to the Cables, I buy Very Good Quality, for Quality Hook Ups, and NOT for Sound Difference, if it does help the Whole System, then Awesome! I just don't want to hook up Quality Expensive Equipment with Junk Connections and wire. Don't mind spending a few Extra bucks for Quality. Within Reason, 1000 dollar interconnects and 2500 dollar Speaker Cables no Thank You!!! PS Lets see some Blue Jean Outer Jackets, maybe as the moderate spenders Cables!!!!!!
Not sure why it matters... It would be the same price or more. You actually heard Jeff say in the zoom that he was surprised at how low the cost the one dealer set. Dealers like myself and the one mentioned in the video can tailor the aesthetics, and BJC does lots of OEM work for others already. In fact, it's likely easier to get a discount from a dealer where you can package buy a system...or.. In my case, members of my channel get it for less than MSRP.
John, Why Not? Have you had some very negative experiences with High End Audio Dealers? Besides Jason is a really good guy! He’s just trying to find solutions for people and help people!
You're making a lot of assumptions and overreacting to one speaker cable. As he mentioned in the video, he was surprised how low the other dealer set the retail cost. We're not even talking mega dollars with these cables so sweating this to the extent you're doing is pretty odd compared to everything else in the hobby.
Subsequent to the zoom, Jeff and I got together and I will be able to sell both the speaker cable and power cables mentioned in the video and NOT available on their website. Members get special pricing. See description of video for my contact information or check out my webpage - audiophilejunkie.com/blue-jeans-cable/
Thanks Jason!
at 38:45 I reference Enrico Fermi, when I should have said Michael Faraday.
I'm sure an EE can find some other mistakes or poorly explained concepts in here- but the gist should be right on!
I ordered from blue jeans four times from interconnects to speaker cables, and every time their product delivered great sound for me. And their shipping was lightning fast.
Me too. Love their stuff.
Good to know there are some small caring companies out there. Thanks for sharing.
You bet
You are Right there are Ladies in the Audiophile category, so GUY'S don't forget about your Wives or other Partners, they May Like to have their OWN SYSTEM!
BUILDING one for my Wife right Now, Married 44 years and I asked her what she thought about having her own stuff and she Lit Up!!!
Gonna cost me but Sooooo What!! Makes me Happy Too.
Cables can and do have different sound signatures. It's not necessarily better, but different. It's much more than eye candy.
Very cool discussion!! Thank you for doing this! BJC is a short drive from me.. :)
With a formal education in electronics, FCC licensed to design and run TV stations, a decade in the Audio industry from on the bench repair to repping products like Marantz,... I was a cable denier. If the gage was big enough....
Then one of my audiophile sons started comparing cables against his Blue Jeans Star Quad speaker cables. He found Blue Jeans Belden 5000 series to be far better.
Then my other audiophile son replaced his with BJ 10 White with noticeable improvement.
So I replaced my BJ Star Quads with DYI shotgunned Monster cables. I measured a 4-5db increase in dynamic range. My amp ran measurably cooler, did not shut down as much...
That's interesting, what gauge/model Monster cable are you using?
My latest DIY 4 meter cables sound (& look) great, utilising 2 lengths of good quality 14awg OFC per channel, first I separated the 2 lengths of cables to get 4 individual wires, then I carefully hand braided the 4 wires together, before covering them with single braided black nylon sleeving. The clear clad copper braided wires are still visible through the single braided black tech flex, fora bit of suttle gold/copper bling, the ends are finished with cable pants and terminated with diy banana plugs made from 30mm lengths of 4mm pure copper tubing, crimped over the wire. I cut a slit along the last 10mm of copper tube, they fit snuggly into the binding posts.
For my next experiment I'm going to try removing the nylon jacketing and replacing it with tfp plumbers tape for improved dialectics
Two meter pair spade to spade, how much?
You offer any trial, like 30-day trial with full refund if I return it for any reasons?
If you want to understand what hooking an amp up to a speaker does to the sound of the speaker, rap on the woofer when the speaker is not connected. Then connect the amp and rap it again. The sound will be completely different. Now disconnect the amp, short out the speaker connectors at the speaker and rap it. It will be different again. That difference includes the wire. I used this as a demo of Damping Factor when I did seminars on audio.
Interested in some of their power cable. Already using them between my 8 channels of amp and my Linkwitz ASP 2.0. Over time I will rewire with their XLR interconnects - probably need a few pair of those.
Wise choice. I use their XLR cables in my hometheater and they are phenomenal.
Yes going all XLR in an HT system is costly and worth it too. One piece per channel,
How do the octoquad cables compare to the iconoclast cable and BAV 1313A cable?
That was really cool. Great guy. I mean he's got a pinball machine right? 😁
I own a couple of pairs of low capacitance RCA interconnects from them. And they're really good sounding cables IMHO.
They look good too. And certainly didn't cost a lot. I'm into the speaker cables you're showing here. But down the road. I'm using long runs right now (like 23 ft long!). So maybe after I switch this around to a much shorter run I'll grab some.
I'm not a big cable guy. But like you were saying. If I'm spending all this money on nice gear. It only makes sense to buy some decent cables to hook it all together. And that includes power cables too. Nothing too fancy, but solid stuff.
In my case I'm using Pangea power cords. And for anyone looking for another nice alternative. World's Best Cables are really solid too. Amazon sells them. ✌️
They forgot to mention that, when connecting high-end cables, be sure to use an ample amount of snake oil, and a copious helping of placebo. And never never put on a blindfold while listening.😅
The magic words - Best bang for the buck.
For anyone wondering why a cable matters in audio. The electrons are one of the smallest building blocks of our universe. How small an electron is? It's like 1/100,000 of an atom or smaller. An electron is so small when an electron travels through a wire - to the electron it's moving in a vast empty space. Because from the perspective of an electron, even an atom is a vast empty space. So, what matter is the electro magnetic field in that space. Like a comet travels in the space is affected by the gravitational fields of other planets, an electron is basically traveling in an empty space and is affected by the electro magnetic fields of other atoms. That's why the grain structure of a wire or whether the wires are twisted together or not - they all matters. Everything in our universe has an electro magnetic field because an atom is kept together by an electro magnetic field. Therefore, every meta physical things in the universe have and are affected by the electro magnetic fields. An electron travels through a solid wire. But, to an electron - it's travelling vast empty space filled with electro magnetic fields from trillion atoms - just like a spaceship traveling in the space filled with gravitational fields from trillion stars.
And…they don’t travel either, they simply exchange energy like the balls on a pendulum collide energy is transferred. Your explanation is the first attempt I’ve seen to bring these ideas to the masses recently so well done.
What does this have to do with human hearing?
Great Stuff! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
One thing not mentioned is impedance matching. Some would suggest this is an important factor. The cable is after all part of the speaker system. Any thoughts here?
I believe this was mentioned in the video. The impedance of a cable varies across the frequency spectrum, so the design is used to flatten that curve.
"Impedance slowing frequencies down" (16:15)? I am somewhat puzzled by this phrase. What exactly does that mean?
It might be more accurate to say that velocity and impedance are interrelated, so that when impedance goes up velocity goes down. this happens across the audio spectrum, but the curve gets sharper in the low frequency end. That's about as good as I understand it, not being an electrical engineer.
Great looking speaker cables. Is it $536 (3 meter) for a pair or a single cable?
Pair
Jason - what wire is B.J. offering for the Octoquads? B.J. has three options on their menu for their other cables - Canare, Mogami and Belden. I think they are using Belden here.
I'll ask but maybe you can check out my website link where I have better pics of the actual cable. I don't recall what he's using, but good question.
@@AudiophileJunkie Given the reference to Galen, I think it's Belden. Belden makes excellent quality wire.
I asked and it's actually none of those, and Jeff is keeping it proprietary for now.
Thanks!
I have found that Wireworld cables are high in capacitance. This can cause some amps to have problems.
What is considered to be a high capacitance for speaker cables?
Please be careful with long speaker cable runs the MBL Xtreme mentioned in this video with the 60ft run has distortion at much lower volume than the MBL xtreme system at our store. I would definitely try to stay away from long speaker cable runs. At lower volumes speakers work well
Boxing glove service
This might be a good spot to bring in actual measurements of electron flow through wire that can help explain the differences in wires that so far have just been claims. Actual measurable causation. Watch how a signal transient travels through wires to the load.
"Watch electricity hit a fork in the road at half a billion frames per second"
th-cam.com/video/2AXv49dDQJw/w-d-xo.html
Now to the Cables, I buy Very Good Quality, for Quality Hook Ups, and NOT for Sound Difference, if it does help the Whole System, then Awesome!
I just don't want to hook up Quality Expensive Equipment with Junk Connections and wire.
Don't mind spending a few Extra bucks for Quality.
Within Reason, 1000 dollar interconnects and 2500 dollar Speaker Cables no Thank You!!!
PS Lets see some Blue Jean Outer Jackets, maybe as the moderate spenders Cables!!!!!!
Good stuff!
So 2 Canare 4S11 Cables? 2M $495.
This is not made from any Canare product, and does not measure or look the same as the 4S11.
You violate the code with this audio stuff and something goes wrong, like fires, you can kiss your insurance coverage goodbye.
I can’t believe they will not be offering these direct from their website. I guess I won’t be buying.
Not sure why it matters... It would be the same price or more. You actually heard Jeff say in the zoom that he was surprised at how low the cost the one dealer set.
Dealers like myself and the one mentioned in the video can tailor the aesthetics, and BJC does lots of OEM work for others already.
In fact, it's likely easier to get a discount from a dealer where you can package buy a system...or.. In my case, members of my channel get it for less than MSRP.
John,
Why Not? Have you had some very negative experiences with High End Audio Dealers? Besides Jason is a really good guy! He’s just trying to find solutions for people and help people!
You're making a lot of assumptions and overreacting to one speaker cable. As he mentioned in the video, he was surprised how low the other dealer set the retail cost. We're not even talking mega dollars with these cables so sweating this to the extent you're doing is pretty odd compared to everything else in the hobby.
The Whalequad are better 🐋