How to Organize Your Memory Palace Networks... So They're UNFORGETTABLE

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  • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
    @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Want to eliminate all of your Memory Palace obstacles? Check out this Memory Palace Troubleshooting video next 👉 th-cam.com/video/v843VmFEFAQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @Richie33404
    @Richie33404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thanks for making this video Anthony! I’m honored that you answered my question in such depth. This was hugely helpful and it changes the way i’m thinking about memory palaces from data storage into more of a tool to get stuff into my long term memory more efficiently. I like what you said about levels of processing and putting things into practice in the real world, that is incredibly useful! I’ll definitely have to go check out your courses! Hope you’re having a great day!

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My pleasure and thanks for expanding on the question. That was great and glad this response helped.
      Enjoy this journey and I look forward to your future posts! :-)

  • @peakperformance6117
    @peakperformance6117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pleasure hearing you again, Dr. Metivier.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for chiming in. Always great to hear from you!

  • @thehapki
    @thehapki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started to create memory palaces based on my streets and city where i live, but i didn't know anything about that alphabet memory palace and also number memory palace. So that video made me realize those 2 techniques and I am gonna work on them. I started to think if I learn chinese characters that would be more than 2000+ memory palaces (I am learning Japanese so even just kanji is so enough for me :D). Thanks for the video and please keep up your work.
    Best wishes.
    TheHapki

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad this connected for you. It's been the core MMM teaching for more than a decade. :-)
      With respect to Chinese characters, one could involve 2000+ Memory Palaces, but this is not necessary. And in any case, I'd worry about memorizing 8 in one room of one Memory Palace to get the gist of it.
      Then learn how to scale that 8 into a multiple of at least 3. You might also want to pick up the CAMP MIST formula for characters which is in the FAQ section of the MMM Masterclass. That's the technique I used to pass level III in Mandarin. It's quite helpful.
      Enjoy this journey and I look forward to your next post!

    • @thehapki
      @thehapki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM I am quite new for all those things so I am still learning the basics of those techniques. About kanji, I think it is gonna be fun to make memory palaces for each character and maybe i could learn kanji quicker by trying to create memory palaces with those :) this is gonna be fun for sure for me.
      Thanks for the tips and your answer. Appreciated :)

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My pleasure and enjoy this journey. It's a lot of fun!

  • @mr.pickitt5426
    @mr.pickitt5426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the biggest light bulb for me was, when I learned (from you, mind you) that an MP is meant to be just a temporary device to get stuff into my long-term memory. A vehicle, so to speak, that I expose of when I don't need it any longer (actually, it disappears by itself, sooner or later). In practice, that happens faster for some informations than for others. For two poems I learned on Nov 1 and Nov 27 and recite daily, I still go through their MPs. French vocabulary, however, usually transitions very quickly from MP to LT memory. Of course, I do my best to keep it there via using French internet resources and reading novels.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Excellent - using what we learn is one of the great keys.

  • @machyndman9933
    @machyndman9933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting. I guess it seems to me you do have an indexing system alphabetically. I have an entire internal landscape where buildings from my childhood and great architecture is pulled together in a series of climatic zones in my mind. I have a library where I store the Dewey Decimal System and bookcases for books I read. I used to want to remember everything, but realised this was not possible! So now, as you constantly remind us, I focus on what is important to me and memorise that. I suppose Conan Doyle was right in a sense, we only have so much time to fill our mental attic. Let’s not waste that time. Thank you for your content and enthusiasm for the Ars Memoria. God bless you.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time is indeed ticking, and thanks for sharing some of it with us in the conversation.
      The interesting thing about the Dewey Decimal System is that with a 00-99 PAO in play, you can turn it into alphabet very easily. And one can create a tremendous ground of reference by knowing the categories of information and tying back those important pieces of information we commit to memory to their relationships and affinities with category.

  • @johneric3886
    @johneric3886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paraphrasing what you said, Anthony the indexing is already there. The answer to the question is locked in with the question itself...________ I really liked that way to lock in information.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, and I think your way of saying it is even better. It is because the indexing is already there that the Recall Rehearsal process makes the indexing so much stronger over time.

    • @johneric3886
      @johneric3886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM well said, why work hard if you don't have to.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why, indeed? It's all play!

  • @user-tf9ks4dh9n
    @user-tf9ks4dh9n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow this was a really interesting topic. Loved it ❤️
    And also..... I am currently reading your book Victorious Mind... Which is a great book and I have started gratitude journal and perfect present exercise... Today was day 3 of doing them.. I am gonna keep going for 90 days.
    Thank you for the books you write and videos you make. You are the best. 😊

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you liked this one and thanks so much for stopping by.
      Thanks too for reading TVM. I'm glad you're putting the Perfect Present exercise into action. I'm sure it will serve you well!
      Thanks again and look forward to your future posts as time allows. :-)

  • @kolossus824
    @kolossus824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    before I began to study memory palaces thoroughly, I used only 1-2, placing 50+ cells in one room, considering that creating many palaces is more difficult than memorizing many cells in one palace.
    Many thanks for your content!

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you find simple MP creation more difficult? I've always found the cell method much more difficult (except when layered onto a real space).

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! Interesting idea!
    I just pin pieces of other systems into each palace. For example, I use the image of a “tie” to represent the number 1 (from the major system). The palace that stores the first chapter of the DaoDeJing has ties waving like flags out in front of the building.
    I wonder if in a couple decades I will need to use an index to sort the texts I memorize? Hopefully , I’ll just know them well enough by then…
    😁🙃

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Numbering Memory Palaces is a great topic on its own. There's an "Infinite Locker" technique I teach for this using a 00-99 PAO that has many implications, though I haven't even begun to explore a fraction of them.

  • @dinninfreeman2014
    @dinninfreeman2014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with you on this. As someone who has been using memory techniques for about ten years and run dozens of memory palaces, I've never had to index my mind palaces. I've never forgotten that I memorized something entirely but still had it stored somewhere that I found sometime later. I just remember where I put it. Sometimes I will search for a specific French word and go to the mind palace that corresponds to that letter and "look" around for that word. Often when I need to do this though it's because I don't actually have that word in memory and it really just serves to confirm that fact. The organization I've been having trouble with is scheduling my recall rehearsal properly. So much of my memorization has decayed due to improper scheduling.

    • @dinninfreeman2014
      @dinninfreeman2014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should also note that even with information that I didn't self-index with lettered memory palaces, and had a wide amount of knowledge stored across many mind palaces that were totally unrelated to each other I still had no problem remembering what I needed to remember once I practiced the right amount of recall rehearsal.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing this context - that's fantastic, and of course a demonstration that action is the key.
      In terms of developing a Recall Rehearsal schedule, the best thing for me in the beginning was keeping a descriptive to-do list.
      This is different than a proscriptive to-do list, which dictates what you're supposed to do and when to do it.
      Instead, what is done and when it got down gets written down. I still do this and it's amazing for remembering where all the time goes and developing a procedural memory for simply doing Recall Rehearsal without needing a prompt.
      Let me know if you give it a try, ideally for 90-days minimum to really get the procedural memory part of it humming and hopping.

  • @16ter12
    @16ter12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the great work! I have a question regarding memory palaces. I have used one to memorize a 35-line poem and use it for shopping lists regularly. But while using it there is always this.. how should I say it.. obstacle. I don't feel as connected to the information in a memory palace in comparison to when I really learned the information by heart. I kind of have the information right there when I want to retrieve it, but using a memory palace feels kind of slow. It just doesn't feel like the really right thing to do for me, so I never used it for exams and likewise stuff.
    I'm really interested in your ideas on this topic, since I find the memory palace an incredibly powerful tool and I really would want to use it more often.
    If you already covered this topic, feel free to link me to another video of yours :)
    Have a nice day!

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure I fully understand the issue you're describing, but if it comes down to speed, give these tips a try:
      th-cam.com/video/753Kkxuv7A0/w-d-xo.html
      Do they help you out?

  • @bradyresch7965
    @bradyresch7965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video 👍

  • @Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown
    @Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anthony I really do not think I ever watched this video now I did great content in this one as always. And I’m not just saying that. I’m thinking about how you’d mention the thing about the school lockers. I’m trying to make sense of that idea. Your friend Bill

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for saying so, and rest assured I know you wouldn't just offer empty praise.
      The Locker Technique is golden for certain learning projects. It's really just adding a 00-99 PAO to a hallway full of them and then duplicating the row as many times as you like in different hallways.
      If memory serves, I ran it past Ron in this one, though perhaps not in too much detail:
      th-cam.com/video/Y1JcM1znKOc/w-d-xo.html
      Let me know if you experiment with it. It could be especially useful for memorizing what records were top of the charts in different years and the like.

    • @Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown
      @Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM I remember that talk very well. This is why I reached out to Ron to see when he would have you on HIS channel. He told me that he doesn’t really do that type of interviewing. I don’t really know Ron too well. He’s a cool guy and all. Just know him as one of the guys I follow. Just like yourself. That’s just fine. I was right with you there trying to work out what you were saying. It’s definitely one of my favorite talks/interviews you’ve ever done. And I mean that sincerely. I’m lucky to know you. Men one side women on the other side of the hallway to keep them separated. I got what you were trying to say. ✌🏻

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's great. Basically it's something to experiment with and understand through implementation.
      Maybe one day Ron will come on my show again if it's not right for me to be on his. That would be cool!

  • @galengraziano7127
    @galengraziano7127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super helpful Anthony! I've been struggling with using the memory palace technique in context with the learning process as a whole. This clears up a lot of my concerns!
    Sounds to me like using a memory palace more like a "halfway house" for vagrant data, recall rehearsing it onto its feet and then practicing body-based data (skills) in the "real world" turns it into knowledge and so those facts no longer need the memory palace to care for it, it's taken on a self-reliant life, so to speak.
    Can you correct any points above that aren't correct and tell me which ones are? I'd appreciate it.
    Also, I was wondering if you could make a video about the learning process as a whole and where each step fits into it. This video does a great job but it'd be great to be doubly sure.
    Thanks Anthony!

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Memory Palace is indeed a machine for developing long term memories, not a storehouse. (Unless you’re a competitor using it for short term outcomes).

  • @iforget6940
    @iforget6940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow thats amazing. Do you have a book where I can understand bias in myself and others.
    Also can a memory palace speed up time to learn an instrument.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This book has a few things that will help you root out bias:
      th-cam.com/video/7aSIaqhsqio/w-d-xo.html
      Yes, you can turn most, if not all instruments into a Memory Palace.

    • @iforget6940
      @iforget6940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM thanks.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My pleasure.
      Anything else on your mind about these techniques or using them?

    • @iforget6940
      @iforget6940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM but other than that I believe there's alot of usefull information on your channel and you try your best to explain everything well and I appreciate it.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know where "sa" is, but I'm pretty sure you can get it anywhere in the world if you wish.
      As for how rich people behave and the question of truth, I suggest digging deep into philosophy. "Truth" is an emerging property, as far as I can tell. If this is the case, then even if you find it, you are finding change itself. This is a powerful thing to realize and something I address a little bit from a different angle in this TEDx Talk:
      th-cam.com/video/kvtYjdriSpM/w-d-xo.html

  • @SFXGUARD
    @SFXGUARD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you've multiple Memory Palaces with letter A and multiple memory palaces with other letters, won't they start intefering with each other when you try to recall them using Major system?

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  ปีที่แล้ว

      I never have had this, but it’s possible that something like that would give others an opportunity to review the fundamentals of the technique.
      Rest assured, there are endless “what ifs,” and none worth pausing upon because experimenting with the techniques and refining how we use them is priceless.
      Does this way of looking at things help you out?

  • @BarKeegan
    @BarKeegan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So establishing your Palace network is like popping on ‘training wheels’, but you ascend to the point of magnetic recall where there’s less emphasis on the initial structure?

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would describe it as the opposite. Structure leads to structure, kind of like infinity is the antidote to entropy.
      At some point, it’s important to just dive in so you can experience it for yourself. What is actually going on is beyond name and form.

  • @jameswright5627
    @jameswright5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I based my memory palaces on the alphabet, would that be considered an indexing method? Thanks for this wonderful lesson Anthony. If I wanted to place you in a memory palace and I had two palaces that I could use Palace A (as in Anthony) or M as in Metivier, how would I choose where to put that information?

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always great to hear from you, James.
      Yes, absolutely, but I would go a step further and call that a self-indexing method because Recall Rehearsal will deepen the link.
      In terms of where in Memory Palaces to place information, that's a function of at least two things:
      1) Your design of the entire journey through the Memory Palace
      2) How you've organized the information
      I actually have a video coming out probably next week where I draw some Memory Palaces. I think it might help you think through this more deeply.
      In the meantime, does this reply help?

    • @jameswright5627
      @jameswright5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM Yes, it absolutely helps, leave it to me to only come up with questions like this AFTER I watch a video like this one. Lol thanks as always for making me think and ponder about these things.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching and participating in the discussions! 🙏

    • @jameswright5627
      @jameswright5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM Even though I can't always watch the live feed I always catch up on the TH-cam repeat, Who says TH-cam is a time waster? If used correctly, it can be an educational aid.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed!

  • @dominikhajda8104
    @dominikhajda8104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like this video, really, but i am wonder about 1 thing. My long therm memory isnt very good.. maybe for me better use 10s palaces and every time just go there, its more longer process but maybe for some people effective ?

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your question.
      I'm not entirely sure I understand, however.
      But to guess at what you might mean until further details arrive, you can use the practice of the Memory Palace technique itself to help revive old memories. Or you can use it very simply by just drawing upon the corners and walls of buildings. It relies much less on long-term memory than many people often think.

    • @dominikhajda8104
      @dominikhajda8104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM
      Hi. Thanks a lot for answer.
      My point was that you said that memory palaces are just tool for save memories to long term memory.
      I just was wondering about effective of long term memory. What when i learn some from memory palace so i know it without palace so i have it in long term memory but i am wondering i can forget it later. 6 months-1year. I dont trust my long term memory so much.
      So when i just dont use palace anymore because i have it already in long term memory and i forgot the information later i will not can use my palace bacause i think its chance i forgot palace too already cause i dont walk through it.
      I just wanna say that maybe can be good sometimes go throught palace or have some permanent palaces for not transform information to long memory but just for store informations. Like i dont know.. i have stored 8 part noble trail (bushism) and maybe without palace i can forget this information.
      drawing upon corners and walls is some like palace isnt ? i like this too.
      it was only my note, maybe its not that maybe i really can remember information in long term memory for long time without palace, i dont know.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for expanding.
      Ultimately, each person has to experiment. I personally have not found any valid objections to using the techniques except for, "I don't want to."
      Otherwise, there are no problems because it is a technique, not a guarantee. There are many techniques that are exactly like this and if we worry to far ahead in the future, we miss the pleasures of using the technique in the now and the chance it creates to remember information long-term.

    • @dominikhajda8104
      @dominikhajda8104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thats right. I have to experiment myself. i see what gonna happen.
      Thanks for interesting points.
      I gonna more enjoy it, thanks :)

  • @knwld15
    @knwld15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For a long this is the one im struggling for a long time. Indexing LOL. For example im a reviewing long term for exam with the subject of math, english and science. Can i put terms and formula
    In one palace of A because it reminds me of that letter? Be cause all the time i use one palace for each subjects (is that what you said in the video, Dont need an index to index?)

    • @knwld15
      @knwld15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In one alphabet system where I have 26 memory palace, can i put different subjects, lists, people in them?

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely you can memorize terms and formulas. I've done this a fair amount over the years.
      I'm actually not aware of anything that can't be placed in a Memory Palace.
      The key is to use spaced repetition in combination with the MPs, as discussed here:
      th-cam.com/video/2CthE_Napjg/w-d-xo.html

    • @knwld15
      @knwld15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank youuuu 🫶🫶

    • @knwld15
      @knwld15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whoa, all I can say is that this solved my problem. However, The P palace is now full(only the review for CET) and the class will start. For sure all the alphabet will be full. Im currently thinking of making 2 more different systems for reading novels and the class subject itself. But the problem is I don't know a lot of places to create more systems. Is there any alternative for it? Thank you

  • @ragnarbrock5970
    @ragnarbrock5970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello can you do an video for learn draw with memory technics please ? (English is my second language sorry)

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What style of drawing are you learning and what are the nature of the instructions?

    • @ragnarbrock5970
      @ragnarbrock5970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM I am a beginner in drawing and I would like to do realistic drawing.
      I saw that Scott Young had done a portrait every day for 30 days and supposedly he applied memorization techniques to improve faster at drawing during the 30 days
      I would like to know how to do this.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a question for Scott. :-)

    • @ragnarbrock5970
      @ragnarbrock5970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnthonyMetivierMMM Yes haha but if you know any techniques to learn drawing through memory technique I'm interested

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I memorized a number of formulas to develop some drawing skills. Check out courses by Riven Phoenix. Then use the Magnetic Memory Method.