The best thing about Dragon priest is that sometimes you get the dream: Circle, circle, coin, concede. Please tell me i'm not the only one to remember this from the F2P
no xD, i tried with all of the other big dragons from blackrock + an alextrasa i had from another deck and you cannot do jack without chillmaw and deathwing
As much as I love Priest, too, it's nice to see how heavily the meta shifts. Keeps the game interesting and keeps most classes from falling into ruts for more than an expansion or so. I'm a pretty casual player, though, so I never get too annoyed with the op meta decks.
I really liked warlocks as a theme in WoW but as a hearthstone class the zoolock is not very exiting . That feels bad too. Warlock class cards are often a little worse than other cards because of the heropower.
***** what is flame imp what is dark councilman what is possessed villager what is power word overwhelming Worse cards? What're you talking about? I get the comparison of Life Drain vs. Bash, but what? Isn't zoo one of the top decks right now because of the cards I just mentioned?
killerspartan55 he said that these card used in zoo are what he doesn't like, and the alternative is bad removal and the impossibility of a control deck.
Watching you play priest, makes me feel way less shitty about getting murdered in situations where I'm just thinking "but I completely couldn't do anything against that :'
I was running Cairne in a similar deck after 2 months of the expansion or so. Then I opened golden Deathwing dragonlord. It's not even that good but after two hexes from shaman dropping that shit is beautiful.
I made a lot of changes to the deck, I have the 5 mana 4/5s that heal, brann, shifting shade, I feel like this smoothes out the curve and being able to heal for 10 can really help out. I'd probably replace brann with chillmaw though if I had him
Thanks! I was stuck on rank 25 and needed a deck better than my standard mech Mage after running 0-22, I finally reached rank 24 using this. I might even get a card back this month only using priest, but that's wishful thinking :)
Dragon Priest is honestly really good with these new cards. But it has a really hard time against decks like Zoo and Shaman, especially if you don't get your tempo with the dragon synergy taunts and removals. But if you draw into your key cards early game, you faceroll decks like Zoo and Shaman easily. I run a similar deck but here's my takes on it. -2 Northsire: Too slow for this meta. I know people are going to be like "You're crazy for not playing Northshire in priest." This is a tempo oriented deck. Northshire gives you good value from draws but she is way too slow and doesn't help against the most popular ladder decks. -2 Holy Nova: Holy Novas do nothing to a lot of minions, unless maybe you have spell power. Popular 3 drops like mana wyrm, tunnel troggs, void walkers, etc. Excavated Evil deals with all of those a lot easier. The Ghouls, so on. -2 Entomb: You can run this one if you want but again its way too control oriented and this is not a control deck. -1 Cabal: I haven't messed with her heavily in this deck, but I feel like she wouldn't be good against a lot of decks. By the time you get her early annoying minions like void walker, a +2 council man, and so on would probably already be used. Then this is what I have instead of these 7 cards. +1 Shadow Word Pain: Aggro on ladder, helps out a lot. +1 Shadow word Death: Preference. Like the easy removal. +1 Brann: You don't need him in this deck. You can probably take him out for a more efficient card. But he is pretty funny with things like the taunts and battle cry minions. Twilight Guardian becomes a Druid of the Claw, the Technician becomes same stats as DotC without taunt, Blackwing Corruptor can deal 6 damage rather then 3, get two death rattle cards off curator, get two draws off azure drake, so on. +1 Shifting Shade: I love this card. He comes in clutch. Great stats, awesome effect. Often times the cards that fuck you over the most are key spells or minions from your own deck. Stealing opponents cards is sweet. You could cut one Brann for a second shade if you want, for consistency sake, but I often get a second shade off of Curator, if I need the 4 drop. +2 Excavated Evil: Read Holy Nova. This deals with the three drops in the current meta that are really hard to deal with. +1 Deathwing, Dragonlord: Personal flavor. You don't often get his deathrattle to go off super well, but he is a big body, can summon drakes from hand, and is a N'zoth target. Usually people freak out and waste EVERYTHING to deal with Deathwing, only for me to N'zoth it back in a few turns or when I draw into big daddy Zoth. I've also seen variants with Darkshire Alchemist and Holy Fire that can work well, can swing tempo back in your favor and put you at healthy life when opponent is running out of steam as most of these aggro decks do. Nothing wrong with Trumps deck, but making lots of tweaks and edits to my deck, this is what has yielded me best results for climbing. I got from rank 25 to rank 8, haven't been playing lately cuz work and college and stuff, but I want to see if maybe I can hit as close to rank 1 or legend as possible before end of season with this deck. It definitely has the potential to do it, just not as easy wins as Zoo's, Shamans, C'thun, Tempo Mage, etc.
Nice video Trump! It helps a lot, but it would be nice if you suggest some substitute cards for those of us who don't have that amount of legendaries :)
I like playing my priest deck with ALL the answers. Yes, it's a bit inconsistent, but it usually crushes zoo, which makes it worth playing in and of itself.
Can I run this without having cabal/slyv/cairne/chillmaw/ysera? Im currently playing a control nzoth deck but im having trouble going higher than rank 16, even though it works pretty decently against most matchups, some i get absolutely crushed. And most of my losses are because im not drawing the right removal like trump said. I do have all the required dragon cards just not all the legendaries.
as a committed shadowpriest player, the "your hero power does nothing" quote does nothing but encourage me. i feel that playing control until the midgame until you drop a heal-shadowform-mindspike play and switch to blasting them like a hunter turn works extremely well (that being said i play wild, not standard) with things as aggressive as auchenai soulpriest into flash heal/yeti with flash heal attached to gain and maintain board control works very well. i would like to hear other peoples thoughts on shadowform in the new meta though
that being said, i recognize my deck is bad and thusly i feel bad, but i do enjoy the tactical decisions (by tactical i of course mean "heal and pass") that the deck encourages, but id still like to hear how shadowpriest ranks in the modern era
why wouldn't forbidden shaping work? I don't play dragon priest, but I still don't get why you wouldn't run that card, just a good way to get a large minion on board that doesn't require dragons. Maybe you could take out a northshire cleric for it, as northshire is quite situational.
actually , alot of the cards in his list don`t make any sense over other much more beneficial cards like brann for instance. also, mixing nzoth with dragons is just making the deck far worse than it should be.
I feel like the loss of Velen's Chosen was a huge hit to this deck. I also used to embrace the midrange-y nature of this deck a bit more and run faerie dragon so I had more activators and more early game plays.
After wаsting a lot of time i finally found out a working HearthStоne Cheaаts .It’s Working, very easy use. > Hеarthstone Trump Standard Teaсhings 5 Drаgon Priest
Its a mod called Decktracker. There's a bunch of different ones out there that basically do the same thing but I believe he uses Decktracker. I use Innkeeper from Hearthpwn.com
IMO there's too many perfect answers in HS. That's why Dr. Boom was actually so noteworthy, even though he was a very reasonable turn 7 play compared to the turn 6 and turn 8 minions he could be compared to, he just had no perfect answer. I mean take control warrior. Shield Slam, Slam, Execute, Bash, Brawl, 3 Forms of Whirlwind (including one that can be a 2 mana hellfire that doesn't hurt you), and weapons. That's a potential 16 cards + however many weapons you run that can be perfect answers to almost any play in the game. Other CCGs dont have that. You can only run so many counterspells in Blue, and the like. It's more about your plays vs their plays, it's rare to have the situation of Play > Answer > Play > Answer for 15 turns, but it happens ALL THE TIME. in HS.
That's one of the things I don't like about hearthstone. Hard to enjoy your cards when they usually disappear the turn after you play them. That and the RNG.
The lost of lightbomb, deathlord and velen's chosen makes aggro deck walk all over priest. Priest archtype is only for control and usually turn 1-3 priest don't do anything unless excellent draw or opening hand. Right now only control priest is strong, but that relies too heavily on combo cards. A lot of times you don't draw into them, making certain cards alone a dead card.
***** yeah priest relied on combos since the start of hearthstone. The biggest of them being Auchnei Soulpriest. If you dont draw it you are probably gonna loose.
"Thats how a priest can win..." Trump play a Priest deck that doesnt look like a 5 year old threw a nerf dart at the screen to build the deck and you will win more often... just saying.
I want priest to work so bad, there's a lot of fun and really good cards for the class but it's not quite there especially with the agressive/midrange meta. It's really fun to play Nzoth priest against control decks though. Entomb is so powerful it gives you a fighting chance in of itself
i thought my drgonzoth priest was fairly unique =[, but its almost identical to this one (2 deaths, no cairne, no ysera added deathwing dragonlord, no holy nova, added SW:horror, no cabal)
Because the effect doesn't happen until it hits the board, and if it's the only dragon in your hand then there's no dragons in your hand when it hits the board, so it doesn't activate.
if its dragon priest , y would u put it as a deathrattle dragon deck? my fren used dragon priest , all dragons and improved his rank so much. that's the question I'm still pissed at till this day.
He is two Chillwind Yetis for the cost of 1.5 Chillwind Yetis. Pre-Naxx he was a huge card, but he fell out of flavor as the game sped up. Now that N'zoth is here, he is back to the spotlight because of the synergy and his huge innate value when it comes to sticking and trading in the mid-late game.
+Hardhatkittycat but lets say you dont have it. why is it op? a 6 drop slot, would thaurassin be better? or another deathrattlle? even if its 2 yetis, isnt it like "play and do nothing the turn you play it"? i dont mean to be offensive in any way, i just wanna learn.
it's usually doing nothing the turn you play it, but because the meta is more midrange and control right now, it shouldn't usually hurt that much, plus it's very difficult to deal with, and the value you get with N'zoth revival is through the roof.
Sam Htun He is definitely one of the weaker "strong" 6 drops. Sylvanas and Thaurissan are usually stronger in the types of decks that run these cards, but in a heavy control deck and/or N'zoth deck, Cairne is a very strong addition.
I would have mulligan'd against the warlock differently. I think northshire is a fine keep going second against zoo, as you can see by your turn 1 whether he's played a flame imp (2 or 1 in his deck) or a possessed villager/argent squire/voidwalker (5 or 6 collectively in his deck) and choose to save or play it then, potentially with another one drop (5 more in your deck). Making him use abusive and pop his shield/deathrattle on your 1/3 with so many large threats in your deck is pretty favorable for you, and the fact that you're running 2 only further enables you to make an aggressive early northshire play. Also, I definitely would have thrown away the curator - it's awful tempo for turn two against a zoo and if you keep northshire, there are 10 playable early game cards you could draw (2 pw:s, 2 whelps, 1 northshire, 1 pain, 2 wyrmrest, 2 technician). Curator is best drawn in the mid-lategame to fill out an otherwise powerful tempo turn.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of N'Zoth in Dragon Priest. I much prefer Brann, which is like a god with all the Battlecry minions. N'Zoth is used as a Control win condition, but I think Elise might be better. A copy of Alchemist and Shade are worth considering over Cairne / Sylvanas.
If someone havent nzoth sylvanas could try to use dragon priest with brann and auchenai and double circle Of healing and double "let me change your mind" is a good deck which is really strong against zoo shaman tempo warrior (if u steal the 2/6 you probably win the match)
if you're going to play a dragon deck then dragon warrior is the best in my opinion, i've already hit rank 2 with it and i intend on hitting legend with it
Well control priest is much better now with all these zoo and Hunter out there. I got to rank 5 last season with zoo but I can't get past 15 right now with zoo cuz I kept battling priests with double holy nova and excavated evil, they also have soul priest and circle combo so really annoying to do with
yeah no, I mean i lose to much to dragon priest, but no one brings priest to a tournament a few months Amaz went into a tournament with a priest deck he was the only one to do so and lost bad.
That's very true. At the same time though, I feel like Trump has a history of downplaying Priest's strengths. Even when he was playing it during The Grand Tournament meta I felt like he didn't really care for the class. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, though. Priest is my favorite class, so I might just be a little defensive of it.
+GengarMarmalade Well priest can be pretty frustrating to play because a lot of it is about draws. Don't get me wrong, it does require skill. Even if you get the draws the best play is often difficult to see as a priest but when you see it, it's so good.
+Deepak Guzzula Well the only reason for it was that trump got cabal from a pack at the start. And ofc he did pretty well, as he said he was over 50% winrate with the deck. Good players also do well with worse decks
+Olli Järvinen Ya. I would say because of that he gained experience with priest. He did switch to dragon priest later but it was a slow process. Not like how he takes random decks nowadays and puts his own twist to it. So ya he does have a fair bit of knowledge on priest decks. Sadly priest meta has tilted for the worse without good board clears and early game answers
I disagree with Trump on this. Dragon Priest used to be extremely powerful, but going by how the meta is currently, N'Zoth Control Priest is a lot better, even though it is sadly most likely the worst class as of now. You tech in more board clears with Embrace the Shadow and massive heals with Flash Heal and the Alchemist. Dragon Priest is a deck which relies on curving out with minions, so often you'll find you self with a reactive hand instead of minions.
i have a golden priest from playing almost solely dragon priest and let me tell you this is the golden age of dragon priest, too bad it still isnt that great
He is the mayor of value town. Burnt cards are lost value. If he only played a single Northshire Cleric he would of drawn 3 cards, had the second one in hand. This way because he had both of them on the board, he would of drawn 6 in total and burned 2 cards. He felt bad for his mistake.
Luke Casce But he knows why Fel Reaver is good, because as long as you still have cards in your deck, its like nothing actually happened. So I just see it conflicting with what he supported beforehand
Well it changes depending on the deck you want to play. For example, the Fel Reaver decks he made were full of just rush cards. None of them were essential, if he burned a bunch it didn't matter. He'd just get more rush cards. But in most decks, there are cards that are extremely important and you can't play without. A lot of decks are constructed meticulously over many hours and many games and every card is very important for one thing or another. Sure, you might burn an early game card that is of no more use, but you might also burn the most important piece of a combo or a dragon that'll activate your other cards.
In the case of fel you either don't draw any cards or you discard from the deck, in the case of overdrawing you either draw a card or you discard. That's why.
In this case "go-to meta deck" meaning - the deck you played if you weren't playing Grim Patron Warrior, Face Hunter, Freeze Mage, Handlock, or any of the other decks that were on the whole superior to anything a Priest could field. Dragon Priest was decently solid at best, while other classes were broken OP'd. Good, but not good enough. The only time Priest was ever really competitive was when they had 8 mana Mind Control. Problem with Priest is that their cards are balanced without the class having a built-in advantage - Combo, Choose One, Secrets, Weapons, Divine Shield, Totem Synergy, Beast Synergy, etc. And merely "balanced" isn't enough. Ben Brode once said that some cards are bad (eg. Magma Rager) just so players can figure out what works and what doesn't. Think Priest is the class example of that philosophy.
tygonmaster I don't know what country you played on, but in the America server Dragon Priest was never a top tier meta defining deck. Maybe for a bit at first, but when everything settled after the expansion it was a tier 2 deck until the next expansion came out. If was the "go-to" deck for priest because it was viable on the ladder, but people weren't switching to play priest to take advantage of how amazing the deck was, you have that confused with Patron Warrior. =P Priest just seems better from the outside looking in because when you lose you lose hard, but as someone who has mained priest since beta let me tell you that priest has never been OP, it's just been viable at times. Maybe priest seems better than it really is because it makes people so salty when the lose to it. ^_^
The best thing about Dragon priest is that sometimes you get the dream: Circle, circle, coin, concede.
Please tell me i'm not the only one to remember this from the F2P
Maybe priest should get the Shaman treatment and get a 4 mana 7/7 and a 0 mana 5/5 with taunt.
Seems balanced.
Well.. You always have the statue ;) 4 mana, 7/7 as requested.
Don't forget about shaman's 0 mana 4/4
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Nerubian prophet isn't shaman only.
killerspartan55 Ooooh, that makes me feel better.
Any replacements for...uh... all of these legendaries?
MURLOCS
no xD, i tried with all of the other big dragons from blackrock + an alextrasa i had from another deck and you cannot do jack without chillmaw and deathwing
hmmm common dragons.
1x Magma Rager, 1x Ice Rager, 1x Am'gam Rager
Ysera is a must in a Dragon Deck
It feels bad knowing that the class you like the most is the worst of them all, and the one that was the worst is now the one everyone plays.
As much as I love Priest, too, it's nice to see how heavily the meta shifts. Keeps the game interesting and keeps most classes from falling into ruts for more than an expansion or so. I'm a pretty casual player, though, so I never get too annoyed with the op meta decks.
I used to try to play midrange shaman back when TGT was released. I never got past rank 10.
Now I can.
feelsgoodman
I really liked warlocks as a theme in WoW but as a hearthstone class the zoolock is not very exiting . That feels bad too. Warlock class cards are often a little worse than other cards because of the heropower.
***** what is flame imp
what is dark councilman
what is possessed villager
what is power word overwhelming
Worse cards? What're you talking about?
I get the comparison of Life Drain vs. Bash, but what?
Isn't zoo one of the top decks right now because of the cards I just mentioned?
killerspartan55 he said that these card used in zoo are what he doesn't like, and the alternative is bad removal and the impossibility of a control deck.
Who's watching without socks?
Yes.
me
Aye.
You watching in your underwear, as well?
+Gordon Hewitt Naaa I'm wearing pants
Wtf are you psychic?
Watching you play priest, makes me feel way less shitty about getting murdered in situations where I'm just thinking "but I completely couldn't do anything against that :'
screw Cairne , Deathwing or no balls
I like you
Fuck yeah
I was running Cairne in a similar deck after 2 months of the expansion or so. Then I opened golden Deathwing dragonlord. It's not even that good but after two hexes from shaman dropping that shit is beautiful.
thrax1920 deathwing is my favorite card
I made a lot of changes to the deck, I have the 5 mana 4/5s that heal, brann, shifting shade, I feel like this smoothes out the curve and being able to heal for 10 can really help out. I'd probably replace brann with chillmaw though if I had him
Thanks! I was stuck on rank 25 and needed a deck better than my standard mech Mage after running 0-22, I finally reached rank 24 using this. I might even get a card back this month only using priest, but that's wishful thinking :)
Could you do Midrange Hunter?
Play on curve trade when it is favourable, win game. Just like arena.
Something something Highmane t6 something something Call of the Wild.
Throw in a turn 4 Infested Wolf, maybe a few Turn 1 Fiery Bats here and there
It made me climb from rank 13 to 7 in one day, so it is a good idea
Can you please do a Trump teaching on Control Priest?? I feel it's better than dragon priest.
Dragon Priest is honestly really good with these new cards. But it has a really hard time against decks like Zoo and Shaman, especially if you don't get your tempo with the dragon synergy taunts and removals. But if you draw into your key cards early game, you faceroll decks like Zoo and Shaman easily. I run a similar deck but here's my takes on it.
-2 Northsire: Too slow for this meta. I know people are going to be like "You're crazy for not playing Northshire in priest." This is a tempo oriented deck. Northshire gives you good value from draws but she is way too slow and doesn't help against the most popular ladder decks.
-2 Holy Nova: Holy Novas do nothing to a lot of minions, unless maybe you have spell power. Popular 3 drops like mana wyrm, tunnel troggs, void walkers, etc. Excavated Evil deals with all of those a lot easier. The Ghouls, so on.
-2 Entomb: You can run this one if you want but again its way too control oriented and this is not a control deck.
-1 Cabal: I haven't messed with her heavily in this deck, but I feel like she wouldn't be good against a lot of decks. By the time you get her early annoying minions like void walker, a +2 council man, and so on would probably already be used.
Then this is what I have instead of these 7 cards.
+1 Shadow Word Pain: Aggro on ladder, helps out a lot.
+1 Shadow word Death: Preference. Like the easy removal.
+1 Brann: You don't need him in this deck. You can probably take him out for a more efficient card. But he is pretty funny with things like the taunts and battle cry minions. Twilight Guardian becomes a Druid of the Claw, the Technician becomes same stats as DotC without taunt, Blackwing Corruptor can deal 6 damage rather then 3, get two death rattle cards off curator, get two draws off azure drake, so on.
+1 Shifting Shade: I love this card. He comes in clutch. Great stats, awesome effect. Often times the cards that fuck you over the most are key spells or minions from your own deck. Stealing opponents cards is sweet. You could cut one Brann for a second shade if you want, for consistency sake, but I often get a second shade off of Curator, if I need the 4 drop.
+2 Excavated Evil: Read Holy Nova. This deals with the three drops in the current meta that are really hard to deal with.
+1 Deathwing, Dragonlord: Personal flavor. You don't often get his deathrattle to go off super well, but he is a big body, can summon drakes from hand, and is a N'zoth target. Usually people freak out and waste EVERYTHING to deal with Deathwing, only for me to N'zoth it back in a few turns or when I draw into big daddy Zoth.
I've also seen variants with Darkshire Alchemist and Holy Fire that can work well, can swing tempo back in your favor and put you at healthy life when opponent is running out of steam as most of these aggro decks do. Nothing wrong with Trumps deck, but making lots of tweaks and edits to my deck, this is what has yielded me best results for climbing. I got from rank 25 to rank 8, haven't been playing lately cuz work and college and stuff, but I want to see if maybe I can hit as close to rank 1 or legend as possible before end of season with this deck. It definitely has the potential to do it, just not as easy wins as Zoo's, Shamans, C'thun, Tempo Mage, etc.
0:31 yeah 13-12 deck doesn't suck! You can get a legend with it after 10000 matches!
Literally 5 seconds after that him explaining that he got to legend with it :P
Only took a couple hundred matches, but it was in a different meta.
You could try Kibler's version. I sometimes feel that Norshire is just not good enough.
Please do some midrange or aggro Shaman.
And thank you for educating the masses on the format!
Get DoomHammer
Get Rock Biter
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Legend rank
Turn 1: Tunnel Trogg
Turn 2: Totem Golem
Win
0 mana 5/5, 4 mana 7/7, that's how m8. But the key is... Hit face man
FakeEST i allready said that
Lucasxd331 Ik, but is hard to hit face man. You need to hear it from multiple ppplllz
Nice video Trump! It helps a lot, but it would be nice if you suggest some substitute cards for those of us who don't have that amount of legendaries :)
Any reason to use Scaled Horror? It seems like that could have a ton of priest synergy, but I never see it used in priest dragon decks.
I like playing my priest deck with ALL the answers. Yes, it's a bit inconsistent, but it usually crushes zoo, which makes it worth playing in and of itself.
Can you do mill deck next? Would be awesome.
I'd love to see one of these on Tempo/Grim Patron Warrior!
Does Deathwing, Dragonlord have any place in this deck or is it just too slow?
Can I run this without having cabal/slyv/cairne/chillmaw/ysera? Im currently playing a control nzoth deck but im having trouble going higher than rank 16, even though it works pretty decently against most matchups, some i get absolutely crushed. And most of my losses are because im not drawing the right removal like trump said. I do have all the required dragon cards just not all the legendaries.
Is there one single control deck that is reasonably costed?
"n'zoth has amazing synergy with the card shifting shade.... but we're not going to use that" lmao cracked me up i don't know why
hey guys, so I crafted most of Priest's cards and I can't win with that class, would you dust everything?
I will never stop playing Dragon Priest
Do Mill Rogue or RIOT
as a committed shadowpriest player, the "your hero power does nothing" quote does nothing but encourage me. i feel that playing control until the midgame until you drop a heal-shadowform-mindspike play and switch to blasting them like a hunter turn works extremely well (that being said i play wild, not standard) with things as aggressive as auchenai soulpriest into flash heal/yeti with flash heal attached to gain and maintain board control works very well. i would like to hear other peoples thoughts on shadowform in the new meta though
that being said, i recognize my deck is bad and thusly i feel bad, but i do enjoy the tactical decisions (by tactical i of course mean "heal and pass") that the deck encourages, but id still like to hear how shadowpriest ranks in the modern era
You should showcase a Control Priest instead, with Auchenai Soulpriest and Flash Heal, plus Elise. That deck is actually pretty good.
why wouldn't forbidden shaping work? I don't play dragon priest, but I still don't get why you wouldn't run that card, just a good way to get a large minion on board that doesn't require dragons. Maybe you could take out a northshire cleric for it, as northshire is quite situational.
actually , alot of the cards in his list don`t make any sense over other much more beneficial cards like brann for instance. also, mixing nzoth with dragons is just making the deck far worse than it should be.
I feel like the loss of Velen's Chosen was a huge hit to this deck. I also used to embrace the midrange-y nature of this deck a bit more and run faerie dragon so I had more activators and more early game plays.
After wаsting a lot of time i finally found out a working HearthStоne Cheaаts .It’s Working, very easy use. > Hеarthstone Trump Standard Teaсhings 5 Drаgon Priest
Any aggro priest deck?
damn you
I think you can find some on Noxious' channel.
There are some rank 5 aggro priest decks
any decent replacement for chillmaw?
What class or deck could I use to climb quickly? I'm rank 18
zoolock or shaman
Also like to add that face shaman requires the 2nd wing of LoE
Can someone link me a ziplock deck, the one I have doesn't work that well and has no synergies or anything pls help
shaman
zoo
Eduardo Taveras
www.hearthpwn.com/decks/568015-budget-zoolock-deck-guide-and-video www.hearthpwn.com/decks/553534-top-50-legend-in-depth-zoo-guide
The thing on the left, with his deck and winrate, is that a mod or something thats edited in the video?
Its a mod called Decktracker. There's a bunch of different ones out there that basically do the same thing but I believe he uses Decktracker. I use Innkeeper from Hearthpwn.com
Ok thanks
any replacements for curator?
priest is strong in the current tavern brawl I won somewhere over 25 games out of 30... pretty cool
What does the gold required mean? How much gold I need to buy decks to disenchant to get said dust?
How much it would cost if you had to pay the adventures with gold
Is it dumb that I would put midnight drake in the deck?
IMO there's too many perfect answers in HS. That's why Dr. Boom was actually so noteworthy, even though he was a very reasonable turn 7 play compared to the turn 6 and turn 8 minions he could be compared to, he just had no perfect answer.
I mean take control warrior. Shield Slam, Slam, Execute, Bash, Brawl, 3 Forms of Whirlwind (including one that can be a 2 mana hellfire that doesn't hurt you), and weapons. That's a potential 16 cards + however many weapons you run that can be perfect answers to almost any play in the game.
Other CCGs dont have that. You can only run so many counterspells in Blue, and the like. It's more about your plays vs their plays, it's rare to have the situation of Play > Answer > Play > Answer for 15 turns, but it happens ALL THE TIME. in HS.
You clearly have not played MTG which you can make an entire deck of removal and win.
Caine Li
But no meta does that. I acknowledged it happens but find me any tourney and there's probably nobody doing that.
That's one of the things I don't like about hearthstone. Hard to enjoy your cards when they usually disappear the turn after you play them. That and the RNG.
whats your win rate with Nozoth paladin? and I guess other decks as well
2/10 ign rating
+Wisper Verial oh wait thats the n'zoth priest
+Wisper Verial nice one ;)
And priest used to be famous for its ability to deal with Agro wtf happened Anduin you gone soft on the Agro
Aggro got more early game with every expansion while Priest got nothing...
The lost of lightbomb, deathlord and velen's chosen makes aggro deck walk all over priest.
Priest archtype is only for control and usually turn 1-3 priest don't do anything unless excellent draw or opening hand.
Right now only control priest is strong, but that relies too heavily on combo cards. A lot of times you don't draw into them, making certain cards alone a dead card.
***** yeah priest relied on combos since the start of hearthstone. The biggest of them being Auchnei Soulpriest. If you dont draw it you are probably gonna loose.
When was this done??? Cause my C'thun Priest is something like 12 wins per 1 loss. Maybe I just play Priest better then most?
"Thats how a priest can win..." Trump play a Priest deck that doesnt look like a 5 year old threw a nerf dart at the screen to build the deck and you will win more often... just saying.
I dare Trump to do a Standard teachings of Handlock. Both TwoBiers and Amnesiac have done it.
What about shadow priest?
C'Thun Priest with N'zoth worked a lot better for me. I tried Dragon Priest for a long time before making the switch.
Trump can you do a trump teachings on how to setup cheaper cards in a deck for those free to play new players out there.
I want priest to work so bad, there's a lot of fun and really good cards for the class but it's not quite there especially with the agressive/midrange meta. It's really fun to play Nzoth priest against control decks though. Entomb is so powerful it gives you a fighting chance in of itself
I have most of these cards. Will try it out!
i thought my drgonzoth priest was fairly unique =[, but its almost identical to this one (2 deaths, no cairne, no ysera added deathwing dragonlord, no holy nova, added SW:horror, no cabal)
6300 gold? it means packs?
Why doesn't twilight whelp trigger itself?
Because the effect doesn't happen until it hits the board, and if it's the only dragon in your hand then there's no dragons in your hand when it hits the board, so it doesn't activate.
I'm stuck in rank 14 using zoolock, is there any way I can climb rank better?
Use shaman decks
Grow some balls and use a real deck noob
I actually use druid the most... chill out bro
C'thun priest is really good atm.
C'thun is Tier 4 deck, wich means it is One of the worst decks currently.
+Jaakko Noponen C'thun priest*
Jaakko Noponen Sources?
Cthun priest is really annoying* Fixed that for you.
+Capricious Fox no it's actually very bad deck. Never lost against it.
That outro reminded me of the Yoshi's Island level scoring parade.
why do you dont have faerie dragon?
can't be healed or use power word shield
yes that's true
if its dragon priest , y would u put it as a deathrattle dragon deck? my fren used dragon priest , all dragons and improved his rank so much. that's the question I'm still pissed at till this day.
How to get dust fast?
can someone explain the value if cainre? I'd like to know
He is two Chillwind Yetis for the cost of 1.5 Chillwind Yetis. Pre-Naxx he was a huge card, but he fell out of flavor as the game sped up. Now that N'zoth is here, he is back to the spotlight because of the synergy and his huge innate value when it comes to sticking and trading in the mid-late game.
+Hardhatkittycat but lets say you dont have it. why is it op? a 6 drop slot, would thaurassin be better? or another deathrattlle? even if its 2 yetis, isnt it like "play and do nothing the turn you play it"? i dont mean to be offensive in any way, i just wanna learn.
it's usually doing nothing the turn you play it, but because the meta is more midrange and control right now, it shouldn't usually hurt that much, plus it's very difficult to deal with, and the value you get with N'zoth revival is through the roof.
Sam Htun He is definitely one of the weaker "strong" 6 drops. Sylvanas and Thaurissan are usually stronger in the types of decks that run these cards, but in a heavy control deck and/or N'zoth deck, Cairne is a very strong addition.
cairne is a 6 mana 8/10 that has to be removed twice with the added benefit of getting revived by nzoth
Why no chromaggus?
I miss those days
Why is he trying to mix N'zoth with Dragon?
You should make a Trump standard teachings about Aggro Shaman
I would have mulligan'd against the warlock differently. I think northshire is a fine keep going second against zoo, as you can see by your turn 1 whether he's played a flame imp (2 or 1 in his deck) or a possessed villager/argent squire/voidwalker (5 or 6 collectively in his deck) and choose to save or play it then, potentially with another one drop (5 more in your deck). Making him use abusive and pop his shield/deathrattle on your 1/3 with so many large threats in your deck is pretty favorable for you, and the fact that you're running 2 only further enables you to make an aggressive early northshire play. Also, I definitely would have thrown away the curator - it's awful tempo for turn two against a zoo and if you keep northshire, there are 10 playable early game cards you could draw (2 pw:s, 2 whelps, 1 northshire, 1 pain, 2 wyrmrest, 2 technician). Curator is best drawn in the mid-lategame to fill out an otherwise powerful tempo turn.
why doesnt he use his golden cards?
He only uses golden cards if the entire deck is golden.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of N'Zoth in Dragon Priest.
I much prefer Brann, which is like a god with all the Battlecry minions.
N'Zoth is used as a Control win condition, but I think Elise might be better.
A copy of Alchemist and Shade are worth considering over Cairne / Sylvanas.
Flash Heal?
If someone havent nzoth sylvanas could try to use dragon priest with brann and auchenai and double circle Of healing and double "let me change your mind" is a good deck which is really strong against zoo shaman tempo warrior (if u steal the 2/6 you probably win the match)
Please do a wild nzoth priest video
I want see Control Priest and Renolock.
if you're going to play a dragon deck then dragon warrior is the best in my opinion, i've already hit rank 2 with it and i intend on hitting legend with it
Priest is a struggle if you love control but want a chance against faster decks just play wallet warrior it feels soooo good
Do Freeze Mage Next!
He's done it before x
I feel like he should have included a game in this series that actually had the deck doing what it is supposed to. The tempo start with dragons.
no nef?
I've been having more luck with my dragons its currently impossible to play hand lock now a days.
If the meta is like 99% zoo, then this deck is really good
which is like never
Feels priest man
Do freeze mage next :D
Why no Deathwing Dragonlord lol
Ok then lol
+Jefferson Chou lol!
and ysera is fast? lol
tygonmaster but hey at least deathwing can kill a 7/7
tygonmaster I thought the problem was it being slow not bad late game :p
Dragon Prie... ResidentSleeper
Well control priest is much better now with all these zoo and Hunter out there. I got to rank 5 last season with zoo but I can't get past 15 right now with zoo cuz I kept battling priests with double holy nova and excavated evil, they also have soul priest and circle combo so really annoying to do with
Used a cheap version of zoo without Leeroy and the 4 mana legendary guy that does 4 dmg. I guess that's y I can't get past rank 5
Dragonpriest is the best deck now. Just skip the deathrattles and nzoth crap who just ruin your curve. add in brann and twillight drake, justicar etc.
Hell yeah sir!
yeah no, I mean i lose to much to dragon priest, but no one brings priest to a tournament a few months Amaz went into a tournament with a priest deck he was the only one to do so and lost bad.
It´s expensive, boring and bad. So i don´t think so.....
+A rebel without a General Priest got 1st in dreamhack 2016...
Interesting you are right Chakki won with a N'zoth Priest
Trruuuuuuummp where is the midrange hunteeeeer plzzzzz do it :(
Positive winrate with a priest? PogChamp Trump is a god Kreygasm
Trump sounds like the other Trump when he says 'tremendous'
Trump really doesn't like Priest...
That's very true. At the same time though, I feel like Trump has a history of downplaying Priest's strengths. Even when he was playing it during The Grand Tournament meta I felt like he didn't really care for the class. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, though. Priest is my favorite class, so I might just be a little defensive of it.
+GengarMarmalade Well priest can be pretty frustrating to play because a lot of it is about draws. Don't get me wrong, it does require skill. Even if you get the draws the best play is often difficult to see as a priest but when you see it, it's so good.
Not entirely true. His f2p run was with priest and he did pretty well
+Deepak Guzzula Well the only reason for it was that trump got cabal from a pack at the start. And ofc he did pretty well, as he said he was over 50% winrate with the deck. Good players also do well with worse decks
+Olli Järvinen Ya. I would say because of that he gained experience with priest. He did switch to dragon priest later but it was a slow process. Not like how he takes random decks nowadays and puts his own twist to it. So ya he does have a fair bit of knowledge on priest decks. Sadly priest meta has tilted for the worse without good board clears and early game answers
I love how Trump attempts to say something definitive only to add a myriad of caveats to consider all of the other cases. Shit's complicated.
This should just be titled "Trump Standard Teachings - 5 - Why Not To Play Priest"
I think stuffing in the N'zoth stuff is taking it too far, especially in a fast meta like this.
the hero power is useless often times. it should heal over 30
I disagree with Trump on this. Dragon Priest used to be extremely powerful, but going by how the meta is currently, N'Zoth Control Priest is a lot better, even though it is sadly most likely the worst class as of now. You tech in more board clears with Embrace the Shadow and massive heals with Flash Heal and the Alchemist. Dragon Priest is a deck which relies on curving out with minions, so often you'll find you self with a reactive hand instead of minions.
i have a golden priest from playing almost solely dragon priest and let me tell you this is the golden age of dragon priest, too bad it still isnt that great
Can somebody explain what Trump cares so much about not overdrawing? When a game doesn't go into Fatigue, it is meaningless
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He may lose a valuable card.
He is the mayor of value town. Burnt cards are lost value. If he only played a single Northshire Cleric he would of drawn 3 cards, had the second one in hand. This way because he had both of them on the board, he would of drawn 6 in total and burned 2 cards. He felt bad for his mistake.
Luke Casce But he knows why Fel Reaver is good, because as long as you still have cards in your deck, its like nothing actually happened.
So I just see it conflicting with what he supported beforehand
Well it changes depending on the deck you want to play. For example, the Fel Reaver decks he made were full of just rush cards. None of them were essential, if he burned a bunch it didn't matter. He'd just get more rush cards. But in most decks, there are cards that are extremely important and you can't play without. A lot of decks are constructed meticulously over many hours and many games and every card is very important for one thing or another. Sure, you might burn an early game card that is of no more use, but you might also burn the most important piece of a combo or a dragon that'll activate your other cards.
In the case of fel you either don't draw any cards or you discard from the deck, in the case of overdrawing you either draw a card or you discard. That's why.
Priest is the reason I quit playing Hearthstone.
What do you mean now? Priest has always been a weak class.
In this case "go-to meta deck" meaning - the deck you played if you weren't playing Grim Patron Warrior, Face Hunter, Freeze Mage, Handlock, or any of the other decks that were on the whole superior to anything a Priest could field. Dragon Priest was decently solid at best, while other classes were broken OP'd. Good, but not good enough. The only time Priest was ever really competitive was when they had 8 mana Mind Control.
Problem with Priest is that their cards are balanced without the class having a built-in advantage - Combo, Choose One, Secrets, Weapons, Divine Shield, Totem Synergy, Beast Synergy, etc. And merely "balanced" isn't enough. Ben Brode once said that some cards are bad (eg. Magma Rager) just so players can figure out what works and what doesn't. Think Priest is the class example of that philosophy.
tygonmaster I don't know what country you played on, but in the America server Dragon Priest was never a top tier meta defining deck. Maybe for a bit at first, but when everything settled after the expansion it was a tier 2 deck until the next expansion came out.
If was the "go-to" deck for priest because it was viable on the ladder, but people weren't switching to play priest to take advantage of how amazing the deck was, you have that confused with Patron Warrior. =P
Priest just seems better from the outside looking in because when you lose you lose hard, but as someone who has mained priest since beta let me tell you that priest has never been OP, it's just been viable at times. Maybe priest seems better than it really is because it makes people so salty when the lose to it. ^_^
No brann? O.O
To me this turned into a teaching on why to not play priest.
I use to play dragon priest over paladian an it was fine YOU just don't know what how to use it or what's in it
i wish he'll do freeze mage :c
Go Europe, find me, show yourself Trump!
My dragon deck never loses to control warrior and it brought me to rank 2