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The Game That RUINED the Franchise - Battle For Neighborville
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2023
- In today's video we're playing Battle for Neighborville, the game that undeniably ruined the Garden Warfare series, but lets be honest, this isn't a garden warfare game.
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Bro, Wtf
Sorry bro
If i get a pc or a ps im gonna get pvz gw2 and try it out
@@Mew4you1 I would definitely recommend. IDK about PS, but on pc, the game is usually on sale for about $6, and if you get it on pc, you can download mods. The game also has a consistent player base on all platforms.
@@CJ_MAX550tbh as a new player i really enjoy the game its not bad in my opinion i do think peashooter getting pushed by the air with the hay was pretty funny
I just realized the desings are based on PvZ 2 or the comics
Congratulations I haven’t even watched the video yet but I know it’s going to be no varieties and not garden warfare I rebooted not killed I’m opinion
So apparently an ex-employee that worked on the garden warfare games said Garden Warfare 2 had it’s updates stopped early to make a new game so they could add (and I kid you not) new ways to monetise the series. EA CANCELLED A LOVED AND ENJOYED GAME SO THEY COULD ADD MORE WAYS TO MAKE MONEY. But personally, I think there a few upsides to BFN, like the map designs, cosmetics, turf take over minigames, the upgrades system, and my favourite, the variety of UNIQUE characters. Not variants, I liked the unique characters that would come out around every 3 months, instead of having a reskin of a character that has a status effect that you had to wait months for.
The difference though is once the new characters dried up aka the game died, it basically became apparent that it sucked.
@@Azurethewolf168 I think the game has emergent strategy, which the community often didn't give it enough of a chance to find.
This is primarily because of the upgrade system.
Humans easily abandon good things because it's not what they're used to, or they just can't envision what it's like.
I personally dislike the addition of variants. On paper it seems great, but a lot of times it either has lead to only ever using one character and becoming obsessed with it, or only having a hollow sense of joy as you repeat the same steps over and over again with one slight change.
You can never judge somethings quality based on the reactions of the masses, because most people aren't that rational.
Finally variants did exactly what the extra characters did in bfn, there were just more of them.
I understand enjoying the simplicity of exploring a premade experience, but the simple fact that you could do it longer it gw doesn't necessarily make it better.
I had one friend who played all the way through gw2, every single character mastered. All the same, they got bored and left. It's a finite gameplay loop, and I would argue more so than being able to make your own using smaller components.
@@Mariwend dude there was only like 10 of them, and once you found all their playstyles, that’s it. It’s a lot more having variants than just having base characters.
@@Azurethewolf168 I mean I think the ability to change and enhance a playstyle is better than just having a lot of them.
If there were both, it would be great. But variants alone aren't as good as they're hyped up to be.
Like not having 400-800 hours of content automatically makes it a bad game. I get that the extra mileage is good, but just having effectively a different set of guns for each character isn't the whole of what made the game successful.
@@Mariwend it was, you underestimate it’s value until you actually are able to use them
I like playing BFN to take a break from GW2, the new characters are pretty fun but i like sniping, also the environment is far more better than GW2, its just the character designs. The designs look cute especially footsoldier but GW2 had the better designs that were cute themselves.
Yeah, it’s fine but they should’ve made it somewhat serious much like GW2.
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Yeah, I like battle for Naperville
And garden warfare 2 equally
imp deadass looks like spongebob
Boy please, you can't see
I don’t like how they removed character variants which made the game unique and fun to me. And the removal of sticker packs with a battle pass type of system was not the way to go. There are many more things that I didn’t really like but I miss the GW series maybe hopefully we can get the GW3 we wanted someday…
Yeah, it’s possible. If some once popular franchise can get revived out of nowhere after 20 years of dormancy, I’m sure the PvZ shooters can too. I would’ve liked if we got the whole idea of getting more classes over time while also getting variants for them. It would be really cool to have the good stuff from BFN mixed with GW2, I would’ve preferred a GW3 like that instead of this.
They made new characters instead of keeping variants
@@LSJasonVKTV and look how that worked out for them
@@Azurethewolf168it's not that bad
@@juanito1491 it is
nah bfn is good, its quite a different game from gw2, but i still like it, i think its main issues are lack of character variants and the fact that EA just stopped updating it after a year. lack of updates is what killed the gw franchise.
Yeah, if GW2 got a bit more love put into it I bet we could’ve seen a lot more content. Even then, GW2 is good at just having so many things to do that it’s still able to hold a fanbase. BFN just can’t do that especially when it departs so far from the original two games, along with that, there’s no variety or reason for the players to really stay once the game loses support.
finally, someone who isn't all like "ea bad popcap good"
The game is alright, nothing is wrong with it the only problem is that whoever was foolish enough to not keep making updates for GW2, the game that was most popular, they left it in the dark and created a new game instead which is a big loss that anyone can calculate
It’s not even the fact that they created the new game, which was unnecessary in the first place, but that they stopped updating the game not even a year after it released, showing that they had absolutely zero confidence that this game was good enough to keep a consistent player base. Such a shame.
@@CJ_MAX550 For realll and we don't even have boss hunts anymore and other town hall events. This game could've still been relevant if they had just focused on it
@@Snappy.Snappy.Snappy and now any cheater can permanetly ban anyone on pc.
That's terrible@@nikkari5780
@@CJ_MAX550yeah the whole reason BFN even existed was because of EA wanting to get more money, so instead of expanding GW2, they decided to work on BFN which basically was sealing their grave.
Nah these criticisms are horrible bro😭. Like I’m not saying the game is great or anything; I think it definitely had some problems with progression, but 90% of this is just “ew! This is different! Yucky!”🤓
Fr bro
Honesty, homeboy here sounds like he’s whining 😭 when he could’ve made more valid criticism in regards to the fact there ain’t no variants not the aspects that aren’t that bad
Frfr
It's a good game, just ruined by lack of updates
Agreed
Bought the game for my son for Xmas, on disk, and it won't play in offline mode. Why is that a thing but a disk with nothing on it
Ruined by the the gw stan thinking its was gw3
its crazy how people just hating on this game because it changed
Fr
How can we hate the game because its "changed" When they have never even updated the game💀
What, are, you, smoking!?!?!??!?
@@agoddamnmaniac975 different from the garden warefare games smartass
@@agoddamnmaniac975 the often updated the game
Bro is overreacting so hard rn
Bluds just hating the game is literally not that bad and honestly the designs look better and the graphics are good gameplay is way smoother so idk what this guy is on
No they don’t, they look horrible. Way too goofy to where you can’t take it seriously. All the characters look so horrible, even besides that, there’s nothing really of substance in the game besides the story mode and bosses. Besides that, it’s like a test run if popcap was first making a shooter.
@@Azurethewolf168 The game is literally about plants fighting zombies, I'm pretty sure it's meant to be really goofy. Also, I'm pretty sure the designs are based on the comics so that's why they look a bit strange.
@@stellar2237 so what? That doesn’t mean anything. The shooters always had a somewhat gritty undertone to the whole game, seeing your favorite characters in a dark yet goofy style. BFN just threw that all away and this was the main reason people hated it, it changed way too much for no good reason and due to it being a shooter, it’s always gonna be compared to the previous games. It did decently better in story mode and PvE regions, but everything else didn’t work.
Its not a gw game, ofc it looks different, and the otehr guy is right, just because its not dark doesnt mean its not good, people are just tok biased to realize what this game is without comparing it to the other games. Its a shooter game about plants and zombies, in no world is it meant to look serious. The comics design thing also still stands, and what if someone likes the goofy look. @@Azurethewolf168
@@Azurethewolf168Bfn pve destroy gw2 one and the bfn artstyle fit the pvz perfectly.
Gw2 artstyle try to be realistic and serious but we not gonna take à game with plant fighting zombie seriously.
The shooter game are dead anyway no uptade only player coping about the game state
Its not that bad, it didnt kill the franchise lmao
Edit: please quit replying to this comment, i made this when i was a lil younger and i do NOT want to keep getting notifications for this
When i got my xbox at what i think was 9 years old??? This game was new, so this is the pvz shooter game i grew up playing. Gw2 is alot better in many aspects but its hard for someone not to side with what they played since the beginning yknow?
Its dying because they arent releasing anything new
The only game that updates is pvz 2
And they cancelled pvz 3 and bfn
It did kill the franchise, the franchise died because of this game. Why do you think after BFN basically no new games have been made except pvz3?
@@tortellinirealthey didn’t cancel pvz3
@@Azurethewolf168doesnt change the fact that it isnt on app stores/i dont see it anywhere???
@@Azurethewolf168 people get bored of the same stuff over and over again. thats why less and less people are playing the games
THATS what killing the franchise
The game isn't that good, but the visuals are good. Yeah, I prefer GW2 art style, but this one is really good too
I can see the appeal for the games art style, since it tries to be different, it’s just not for me. I’ve been more of a fan of the traditional art style of the garden warfare games, especially GW2
Honestly i have way more fun on bfn than on gw2 since gw2 playerbase is 90% sweaty try hard and 10% noob who don't know how to use their controller/keyboard , on bfn the only bad thing are brainium basher/steam gun and spawn killer and that's it
i don't mind the steam blaster tbh it's like chemist or zooligist brainium is a problem yeah but imo the other legendary upgrades aren't broken
scientist works like an actual support character in bfn but if thats not your cup of tea steam blaster is good bc you can still heal but you kill ppl crazy quick (unless they are are fucking night cap or acorn dancing all over the place)
brainium and citron are the 2 most busted characters imo
Honestly the game is really fun you just have to get over the fact that its not gw3 then you can have fun
Right!
I hate the art style of this game it physically hurts me to play it I threw up when I was giddy park one time
I hate how they ruined my favorite mode (garden ops). Its absolutely not even fun anymore in bfn
I hope Popcap can bring back this game and make it better, hopefully they do that.
Dude is complaining about random things. So much that he even complains about good things like the sound feedback. Bandwagon effect to hate this game.
FR
@@reggiethenuclearbomb "OOOH NOOO DUDE WTF IS THIS TOTALLY NORMAL LOADING SCREEN OH MY GOD".
@@K-xor "EWWWWW THE CHARACTERS ARE NOW MORE EXPRESSIVE AND HAVE REDESIGNS??"
@@reggiethenuclearbomb lmao. So lame the amount of hate this game has. This game literally only needs more players. IMHO BFN is better than GW2.
@@K-xor while I don't agree that it's better than gw2, I still really really like bfn
I personally prefer gw2, but I would play more bfn if they didn’t replace Torchwood with oak and fully get rid of hovergoat
Am i the only one who likes the graphics on bfn better then gw2
You not the only one i prefer cartoony artstyle over realistic one
I love BfN graphics, but I wish it had more maps with unique lighting instead of it being almost constantly sunny.
BFN has its upsides tho, 1. Upgrades, 2. Plenty of characters, 3. Better graphic imo. However there is no variants and some classes weren’t added back.
If you are a GW player coming to BFN, this game is gonna feel bad. But if you aren’t, it’s kinda the base gameplay of the PvZ shooters. BFN is different but I still have hope for the PvZ shooters
This game isnt bad at all...
im sorry but i feel like your just hating on everything about the game i feel the same when it comes to GW2 was a better game but the game was made to be goofy thats teh point ngl your just hating games a solid 7/10
Apparently the character designs were based on the PvZ Comics.
Just played it again in 2024, but it seems like I was missing something when I played last.
Just don't hate yourself and everything around you.
Once you let go of the frustration, after telling yourself why and how they don't matter, they go away.
When you take this game for what it is, *shit's bussin.*
GW2 may be the best still, but BfN is not bad at ALL.
if only THAT Pandemic never happened
I'd be fine with this game if they didn't have to ruin literally all the good characters from past PVZ games like, what have they done to my boy Citron?
100% guaranteed that if gw didn’t exist and they released this he wouldn’t trash talk it
stumbled across the biggest yapper and dude just complains whole damn time wonder what the dislike like ratio is
Remember how in GW 1 and 2 there were skins with special abilities on each class?
Yeah,they removed that
The sound effects he claims he hates are the literal same ones from gw
I enjoyed it. Like It was good, but developers stopped making content, and that's how the game ruined the franchise.
It's not bad, it's different.
"IT'S LIKE THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY?!" I mean when has pvz been serious?! 💀
I feel like you're hating on things that aren't even problematic. Literally no one had an issue with the way the game looked, other than you that is. I thought you would adress the actual problems, such as lack of advertisement, playtesting and EA just giving up on it..
You are, quite literally, hating for no reason.
This was the biggest joke of a video I have ever watched 😂 like have you ever heard of new graphics? It happens to literally every. Single. Game.
Not to this extent
Okay but to be fair imp looks like a pug 😭😭 and rose??? She literally looks like she ate lead paint, like I get new graphics but they just made some of the characters just plain ugly
1 it doesnt happen to every game and 2 holy hell every character looks horrible and all the mechanics are changed
would rather play pvz3 than bfn
This video is just insulting to watch.
I actually enjoy this game 😂 the last PVZ I played was Garden Warfare and my god have the graphics come so far. Hearing you trash on this game like you came into it with a negative mindset was actually kinda disappointing given the fact that it’s a Plants Vs Zombies game 😂 like relax bro what did you expect, Call Of Duty graphics?
No but we wanted something more than goofy ahh designs
@@Azurethewolf168Trash ass opinion realistic style become boring
@@Azurethewolf168the game is literally about plants fighting zombies it doesn’t need to look serious
@@trentonujig7453 well the first game was, and so was GW. The best games in the series have always had a serious undertone or harsh looking graphics, the newDr games don’t have that
I always thought it was pretty good,fun game and upgrade system was really fun and innovative
I had problems with the game crashing, way too much.
Saying it killed the franchise is an exaduration
Exaduration
Lmao it’s exaggeration 😂
No, no it isn't, because it prettt much did
@@Polygonzzzzzzz them discontinuing the game killed the franchise. Not the game itself.
@@reggiethenuclearbomband why did they do that? It's because people didn't like the game, it was too diffrent for them, the game didn't sell much so now ea will prolly never make another gw game, effectively killing the series
they stripped garden w to their socks then gave it some goofy clown clothes
I kinda actually like bfn but only for the singleplayer modes, gw2 is way better
Nintendo players be like: NAH THIS IS FAKE
No microtransaction be like
Holy crap the quality of this video and the editing is amazing. It’s so cool that there are still talented pvz content creators getting into the space
to me the art style gives me ps2 shovel ware vibes like i see it and visualize a 2003 ps2 style cover art and memory card save icon
That is not a mobile game,the game is very good just please respect the creators because they worked very hard
Bro is hating cause it isnt gw2. The game looks better, dont lie to yourself, its balancing is better, the banning problem wasnt nearly as bad, the costumes look better, still added new characters, an actual good single player mode, and more. Like tell me rn who tf plays other gamemodes than team vanquish and turf. Their still in the game in private play. Btw the designs are based on pvz2 and the comics, so they look more accurate, cause why would they need to look the same as gw2 when this isnt a gw game. Did you forget this game is about plants fighting zombies, the characters looking goofy makes more sense.
You are insanely biased. All your doing is hating for literally no reason. This game didn't kill the franchise. The stupid devs did.
bro ur over exaggerating it’s not that bad 💀
Personally, I’m fine with the graphics but the issue is that they changed way too much outside of that. The graphics would’ve been fine had variants still been a thing, had they put more effort into the cutscenes (they look so rushed and lazy, even more so than GW2), and improved the ops mode. The whole reason this game really died was because of how different it was, it was too different to where it didn’t appeal to any of the old fans, while basically not doing enough to keep new fans playing it besides constant updates (which slowed down fast after a while). I think all of us would’ve loved it if they added the good stuff from BFN (more unique character classes, good boss fights and a better story mode (instead of just fetch quests). It’s pretty sad it cut support that early, as I’m sure they would’ve really improved a lot of it over time as seen in the game files (Ops phase 3, new characters, etc.), it would be like if GW2 was stuck in 2016, it would suck since there would be no Zombopolis, torchwood or hover goat or town hall, it would be so incomplete. It would still be a good game, but miss a lot of the extra content that it got in later stages, I do really wish it got even more content though.
the missions werent that long and they were kidna like quests your right theres some new stuff but nothing crazy
@@aliceglasslover missions were nice and I liked that there were actual unique bosses in each area rather than fighting ones from boss hunts or the ops mode, it felt more impactful and fun to fight than a generic boss. I’m sure with more time they could’ve improved on the game, since like you said, not many new things were added.
Never played the game before but I honestly think that the game is pretty good. Sure, Citron looks like he messed up in the future but other than him everything else is pretty good. The run mechanic really makes more characters balanced so Cactus can run and shoot instead of snipe and die
(PS, I just borderline dislike how citron looks, his abilities are amazing)
So should I buy GW2 or BFN ?
bfn...stop listening to these haters.
Yup, BFN.
Site Gustan los Juegos Con modo Campaña que Duran Bastante te Recomiendo BFN
GW2 you'll feel as if you're progressing in the game with new variants rather than BFN's side upgrades.
whatever you prefer
In terms of content, Garden Warfare wins, but in terms of gameplay, I think Battle for Neighborville is better.
There so many QoL features that make BfN gameplay feel generally better in my opinion.
Why is my guy icky over every single little detail. From the different art style, the sound effects, the character design changes, the loading screen pop up, the main menu pop up, the ui elements, etc. i really actually like the art style
I question why they got rid of Counts Vampire zombies, like yeah they weren’t that tough but it was the whole theme. Him just summoning bucket heads is weird
I like peashooters more toonish design with Chickpea skin, though I’m not sure going for just customizations instead of variants is worth it. Here its just everyone plays the same but has a different costume
they forgor 💀
This game is bad but for basically none of the reasons in your video. The artsyle is a downgrade, but the whole ‘this feels like a mobile game’ feels like your just stretching, but I’d say what you said about the game trying to be satisfying but actually being the opposite is true.
And yeah they butchered Ops, but you didn’t even mention that the dracula zombie doesn’t even spawn in vampires, difficulty is always locked to normal (no hard or crazy), and there is no espcape at the end.
Just last weekend this guy had less subs than me, in a week he gained over 200! Keep up the grind man! You underrated asf 👍
Besides the plants and zombies looking terrible, the game is decent
I like the game
The only good thing of this game are the bosses in the story mode
The only bfn hater that does not chit-chat bout the damage
Ok your just over reacting homie
I thought they nailed the characters and gameplay perfectly on gw1.
Why change it so much?
They made the characters move awkwardly,removed variations and made the maps less interesting.
CHANDGED SO MUCH!!! all stars head is smaller roses eye doesn’t have her eye makeup anymore and superbrainz has a shield and citron has just ball shoot and no more laser and cactus fly and no tall nut battlement scientists eye diff and here’s 3 gay characters, electric slide oak and space cadet but that’s to me and chomper releases a fart and z mech is diff and flower doesn’t spawn a pot ( i think they were lazy for pot) and literally no giga Gargantuar for bfn and besides NO VARIANTS LIKE for example as a peashooter u can’t be a fire or ice or NONE and this is why I bought pvz gw2 on a ps5 and I was in good luck because it was a offer to June 6 that pvz gw2 was 6 dollars and I got to buy it on may 24th
I love this game people are literally just salty that's its not just the exact same as GW2
In my opinion, I like the game
in the description it says “ruined the gw series” yet it isn’t, they’ve stated it isn’t
bro really said this game ruined the franchise when pvz 3 exists
I hope they bring a new game to the series that isnt bfn game introduced new characters but i think keeping the variants is a must
"Oh thats a Torchwood"
hes not even on fire
it was the other tree guy variant, the one with the club
Dude its just a game
i thought the game would be an easy 100%, but all achievements are just a cover for the master 20 characters one
A majority of this video is spent complaining about mechanics and abilities that carried over from the second game, also the design of the game is legit just better both graphically and design wise, taking obvious inspiration from the first 2 and giving it a brighter color palette and giving the characters more character. The other games feel very dated to me and getting into a 7 year old game with 120 slight variations to the original classes isn't appealing whatsoever, this game could have been a lot more if the developers gave af but I still find bfn to be better gameplay wise
It’s not that bad. Look at it through the eyes of someone with no bias, and don’t criticize every little thing that doesn’t meet your standards. If you’re going to complain about a game because it’s not exactly like the last game. Because it’s meant to be different than the other game.
Ign gave this game a 9/10 so great rateing...
was excited for the game when I first heard about it, but instantly refunded it when I got it lmao
Rip my plasma pea 😔
At least they have story mode that I finished
Keep yourself save
I understand loving this game, I don’t understand the videos all about hating on it.
To answer the question on the thumbnail; a good game in my opinion
What are you on??? This is an amazing game.
Me waiting for a time where there’s no whining in this video
Look at that, my beard finally grew!
Not bothered about the graphics, whats more a problem is you use XP, upgrade your characters, and they play exactly the same, whats the point? Master, Elite, Nood, there's know difference. Perks are useless.
Hey, I enjoy the fuck outta this game. Never played the others. Maybe I don’t know what I’m missing but ignorance is bliss.
Im Sorry But I Have To Disagree, I Know You Hate It Because Of The Art Style, And Sounds, And The Outfits Equiped On The Characters, But I Like It, People Enjoy It Just To Shoot And Have Fun.
I completely agree and respect anyone who likes this game. The whole point of games is to like what you like and have fun. I personally like GW2 a lot better, but that's the thing, choices, you have different games to choose from, and we're not all gonna agree on everything. Play what you like and just have fun:)
Bro didnt even crack 1k likes
I love the game and I’m playing it right now😀
Stop complaining man, it may be disappointing game in your eye but at least it is a fun game.
BFN esta Infravalorado es muy Buen juego solo quela Jente lo odia por ser Diferente alos GW
I like that game but i think its bc i dont play gw2
That’s fair, I’ve just always had a sweet spot for GW2, and going from one to another is a night and day difference for me personally
I love bfn I play it every day and it’s my favorite game in the franchise
1:13 I don't think that's a torchwood
Tbh atleast they made rose gameplay better
what i don't like about this game
the art style is bazar
the characters models look weird
ea removed the different character variants
Correction, popcap is the one who did that, ea not. POPCAP
@@Dr.jerk1357Dude, EA Bought Popcap For Millions Of $, Now That EA Bought Popcap, The Game Is Shit.
@@1......Caesar......1 EA are the publishers, not the developers. It may have partially EA’s fault, but Popcap is just as much to blame as they are.
The artstyle is fire
The character model are cartoony
Variants was not here its was not gw3 but an different things
Bro hates the game cause he wuit the frabchise years ago, they added better quality and calls it ass
Gw2 is hacked rn :(
You literally offer no objective info on why u hate it. This was so annoying to watch
Whenever i feel stupid I remember that someone actually approved those character designs
Peashooter new design is based of the pvz2 design
there's a slight problem: in pvz 2 peashooter has 1 leaf and in BFN peashooter has 2 leaf so it's kinda different design
these kids really comparing a shooter game to a tower defense game
Peashooter design is based on the comics
Garden warfare two and garden warfare have the design of the first pvz compared to that of the battle for neighbour Ville game which has the pvz 2 design