Wolfen: Streaming Review
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- Silent, unseen, the creatures live among us... and hunt. We review 80's werewolf movie Wolfen, 1981.
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Summary: In New York, when the influent millionaire Christopher van der Veer, his wife Pauline van der Veer and their bodyguard are mysteriously murdered at the Battery Park, Detective Dewey Wilson is summoned by his chief Warren. Dewey had a drinking problem in the past, but now he is recovered, and is assigned to the case to work with the political specialist Rebecca Neff. He meets with the coroner Whittington that finds the case challenging. When a homeless man is found murdered in Bronx, Whittington finds the same Modus Operandi and a common animal fur of the Battery Park case. The expert in animals Ferguson identifies the fur as belonging to a wolf, and the troublemaker Indian Eddie Holt becomes the prime suspect for Dewey.
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I actually saw the filming of this in the Bronx when I was a kid, The socio-economic backdrop grounds its realism and predates splatterpunk by 5 years, it's a great film. Almost feels post-apocalyptic in the burnt-down areas of the South Bronx. I saw the animatronic wolf in the Museum of Moving Image in Astoria Queens NY(still there), and this film has had a major influence on me as a filmmaker/ photographer. If I can compare this movie, I would say CHUD and Mulberry Street are great complimentary films to Wolfen. This film is the most realistic depiction of NYC in the early 80s, and not that Hollywood bullshit.
The book was actually quite terrifying. A lot of it was told through the view of the wolves, and they aren't traditional werewolves. They are an advanced and highly intelligent breed of wolves, with an almost human intelligence, who live in the shadows and prey upon society's outcasts who won't be missed. They are not human, nor do they turn into humans. The shots of the South Bronx in this film are incredible.
Today, these werewolves would go on a feeding frenzy with the
homeless and the migrants.
They would essentially clean up the streets.
Quite right, this is not a werewolf film.
My main memory of this as a kid was waiting to see what the local paper's review of it would be and all they said was "If you've seen The Howling and American Werewolf in London, you've seen this"
Still wish I knew what the reviewer did that day rather than go to the screening.
Well said! "...you've seen this." Some people...
@@johnpierce367 I wouldn't even say that in a comparison of The Howling and American Werewolf.
Which is sort of like saying "If you've seen The Great Escape and Hogan's Heroes, you've seen The Boy in the Striped Pajamas" because they all heavily focus on WWII German prison camps.
I think the people saying those sort of things think it's evidence of their "refined tastes", even though real refined tastes are _good_ a distinguishing subtle differences, so their inability to distinguish even quite blatant ones is actually evidence of very simple, un-nuanced, and straight-forward tastes.
I like this as a double bill with Finney's "Looker".
I saw "Wolfen" in the cinema when it first came out and then a couple of other times later when it was on cable. I agree with Robin's review except I never had any problem with the pacing. It may be slow compared to Indiana Jones films, but it proceeds at a measured pace that I think makes the scenes of violence that much more startling. (Dick O'Neill's death is particularly unnerving and occurs, appropriately, at the film's conclusion.) The film also features a relatively early and on-target performance from Edward James Olmos as a Native American. Interestingly, in this time frame there were a few other supernatural or near supernatural horror films that featured Native Americans as infrastructure in what was often an ecological message: "The Manitou" (1978), "Nightwing" (1979), and "Prophecy" (1979) come to mind. I did read the book, "The Wolfen" (1978) by Whitley Strieber, his first book, and I personally find the film better, though the book is likely more believable in that it avoids the supernatural completely. As others have noted, Strieber also wrote "The Hunger" (1981), which became a stylish if nonsensical movie (that I still enjoy watching), as well as two "Hunger" sequels, and then he was abducted by aliens.
As an added extra, Dick O'Neill's severed head actually makes a cameo (in Bryan Brown's apartment) in 'FX' (rented from Carl Fullerton as set decoration, I'm assuming?).
I saw it for the first time as a CBS Friday late night movie when I was 12- and it scared me to death
My second favorite werewolf film, just behind The Howling! RIP Albert Finney.
"Wolfen" is among my most favorite horror films. Personally, I find it brilliant, every aspect of it: direction, performance, cinematography, James Horner's excellent score (which he would later reuse bits of in his "Aliens" score), it just all works so perfectly . It contains my favorite Albert Finney performance and the infamous Wall Street climax is breathtakingly accomplished. A criminally underrated true classic.
well, it is definitely a precursor to *Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan,* as it contains the proto Khan theme.
Coincidentally, I recently watched The Hunger for the first time, which was based on a book by the same author doing a similar realistic treatment to vampires. The director of that movie, Tony Scott, rather than coming from documentaries, came from TV commercials - so, he took a novel that was supposed to be a realistic, modern take on an old legend, and turned it into a two hour perfume ad from the '80s. That said, it's a very well made, if a bit longish, perfume ad. I had been considering either watching Wolfen to find out about the companion piece novel, or just read the novel itself - you've just made my decision for me. Thanks, Dark Corners Reviews! (I'm going to watch the movie, if that was ambiguous.)
Another underrated movie
@@Donathon-qx8kqI disagree with the perfume ad remark. It had a certain glossy style that became typical for the 80s, but I found it fitting for the characters. The scene where David Bowie starts to decay from a young man to a living corpse is simultaneously haunting and heartbreaking.
I'll have to check that one out. I enjoyed reading The Wolfen and remember the movie you're talking about, but I never realized the book was by the same author. I enjoyed The Wolfen novel a lot more than the rather lame movie as well.
@@karlkarlos3545 You misspelled "hilarious"
Wow, I just listened to the audiobook of the novel last night as i fell asleep. Weird syncronicity.
Although I've always loved the making-if side of horror, it's only relatively recently I've tried to watch more of it as a viewer. I love the mythology of werewolves and this came out the year I was born. This is one I'm definitely going to try and seek out.
This is one of those films you tell yourself... "I'll get to it someday." and 43 years later, I still haven't. 😯 Loved your assessment of it.
An underrated, yet very solid film.
... highly underrated.
It was the 80's even crappy movies were good. Not saying Wolfen is crappy.
My mom actually sold me on reading the book. It was awesome. The movie was ok, I liked it. But the book was so much more satisfying.
As for werewolf movies.
American Werewolf in London
The Howling
Dog Soldiers
I got this movie on a 4x1 DVD set with 3 unremarkable horror flix... I thought it would be a cheese fest like the others and boy was I surprised! Amazing movie
it’s a breath of fresh air tbh this one of my favourite genre of horror and a different take is not spectacularly awash with mechanical SPFX. But is a nice change. I worked for few years in Special make up effects and really once American werewolf in london and the Howling also Chris Tuckers work on Company of wolves (RIP a British pioneer) why would you bother. So this take is inventive and clever. Yes it’s not fast paced and splashy, but it’s got great acting a good screen play and it’s of it’s time.
In the 80s I liked the werewolf tv series with Chuck Connors. Haven’t seen Wolfen but after this review I’ll check it out.
Everytime there's a werewolf review, I mention that sadly forgotten and ill-fated FOX series. Chuckie was only in the pilot and I think two episodes before he quit the show over salary, so they tell us. The producers, instead of recasting Chuck, went into a direction that in the end just didn't work. A real shame. 35 years later it still hurts.
I like this movie a lot, and have long thought of it as being perhaps the best werewolf (or werewolf-related) movie ever. It's fascinating to hear its screwy production history -- the first cut being 4.5 hours long?!?!
Well, it's a short book and not bad, though it's hard to make much crossover with the film. I'd call the book more science fiction than horror. I enjoyed both. I'd like to point out some unique elements of the film reflecting the urban decay US cities were dealing with creating some fairly distinctive environments that seemed more like war zones or the result of environmental disasters than typical cityscapes. They gave a lot of atmosphere to the film.
Rest In Power 🙏 Gregory Hines
And the absolutely great Albert Finney.
@@Shadowman4710 Solid talents, both.
I like this movie!!
So do l.
Me to.
There are things that dwell beyond the scope of human senses - Dan D Doty. When I first saw this film at the South City Movie house back in 1981 ( before Whitley Strieber and I started writing to each other).. At first look you would think that this was a Werewolf movie, but as you look closer , it seems more like a story about Skin Walkers ( and no, Walkers aren't another form of Werewolves. They're evil magic -users). But its a good movie with enough twist and turns to kepp interested and guessing .
Oddly, I read the book before it became a movie. I didn't realize it was from that book until some time into the movie I realized how familiar the story was. The wolfen of the book are quite a bit creepier than in the movie and stick in my mind, the use of actual wolves in the film being kinda lame IMHO. One thing that added a veneer of grit and realism to films of that era was budgetary constraints demanding they use real world filming locations. Films like this one, Death Wish, Q the Winged Serpent, Dirty Harry, all exuded an atmosphere virtually unknown in today's films.
I read the book before I saw the film. The basic premise, which I don't think the film explained very well if at all, is that for thousands of years humans have killed wolves; but we've been killing he stupid ones. There's an entire breed of wolflike creatures that we don't know about, because no human ever saw one and lived to report it, or they reported it as a werewolf.
Whitley Streiber, before Communion. He's my friend's godfather, he's not a fan of the movie, but he really didn't like Christopher Walken in Communion.
Although very different from The Howling and An American Werewolf in London it stands proudly alongside them. I saw all three in theater back in 1981.
Definitely an underrated gem of a film. Even more fascinating when you look at the areas in the Bronx where it was filmed versus today. However, calling this a "werewolf film" always felt like mislabeling considering what most people think when they hear the word "werewolf." Might explain why it never caught on like other werewolf movies like The Howling, Silver Bullet, and American Werewolf in London.
Always thought Olmos's transformation choreography was worthy of an Oscar.
Awful movie 🤢
SPOILERS: While labeled as a werewolf film, I've alway appreciated that the WOLFEN book and slightly-less-so the movie are in the subgenre of speculative evolution-based fiction as the title beasts are a 'side-species' of hyper intelligent wolves that have successfully kept themselves hidden from humanity and in large numbers for who knows how long. Nice to see you tackle the film version and, yes, I agree it works better as mystery thriller than pure horror monster movie.
I enjoy Wolfen, but have a hard time placing it with AAWIL, The Howling or even The Company Of Wolves. It is very much its own beast... apologies...
I've only seen WOLFEN once, years ago, but I enjoyed the fact that it was its own thing, quite different from THE HOWLING and AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON.
I have always loved this film. Probably my favourite 'werewolf' film.
More science-fiction than supernatural; as people have noted below, the book is even better especially at bouncing back and forth between rooting for the wolfen pack and being terrified of them. Might be the first major film score for James Horner, elements of which would soon be brought over into his Aliens score. When I was learning shot-composition in college, I mentioned to our teacher that this film had at least one of every technical shot in the book -- and after checking it herself, she agreed and screened it for the class! Those who have read the book will likely be disappointed in the limitations of the film (and maybe its overly ambitious attempts at misleading what's going on), but for those who haven't seen it, you should know that the three most frightening points of the film NOTHING HAPPENS! {g} I would not be surprised if director Michael Wadleigh (who last I heard was a bus driver) was a fan of Val Lewton's Cat People.
I remember "Wolfen". I think I liked "The Howling" better though.
surprisingly I've never watched this, THis will have to be rectified.
I now want to see the four-hour version of this film, because so much happens in the movie that dead ends. People pop up get killed or just go away. This is a good movie; the cast is good the cinematic are good the music is so good the score was used later in the movie Aliens.
i've been trying to watch this movie but i haven't found it available on streaming yet
hey, have you guys done 1994's _Wolf_ with Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer? that's another slow-paced werewolf movie set in New York City which i thought was really good.
I've always enjoyed this flik since first watch. It may be slow and to a degree methodical but like you Robin, it kept me fully engaged. I found the actual wolf reveal(s) surprising and exciting.
Not too many werewolf/wolf-type films can make the same claims. :)
It mage be a strange choice but it is my favourite Werewolf movie alongside Dog Soldiers.
The book is excellent
Apparently this was Albert Finney's only horror flick. He did a BBC mini series in the early 90s based on Kingsley Amis' ghost story The Green Man. Well worth watching.
I think this was on cable (HBO) and I can definitely recall the title though I don't know why I keep thinking of it as "The" Wolfen...
The other movie that for some reason comes to mind is Homebodies. Great review! Thanks!
Excellent horror movie. Only miss for me is that the Wolfen wound up being actual wolves. Was hoping they’d be more like the novel villains.
New York City plays a superb role in this one, from the park to the morgue to the bridge to the high-rise interior & of course the *crumbling church & block* that were scheduled for complete demolition in the near months after shooting... Even the grittiest of today's grimy urban movies can barely keep up with Wolfen's NYC.
Wolfen's not a bad film for sure; gotta admire how it stands out from the pack (hehe).
I don't think it's as fresh to the genre or as good as An American Werewolf in London or The Howling, but I do like it much better than Teen Wolf and Silver Bullet. I also rank it slightly below The Company of Wolves.
To me, because of the reasons you gave, i loved this movie. I usually watch it around Halloween, but opted to watch it today. One thing that works for this movie, like Jaws, is that you don't see them through most of the movie. Like Predator (which ised the thermal vision effect), the movie sometimes gives you there point of view. I loved the book, which is more of a us versus them survival tale- police procedural. In spite of that gripping read by Whitley Strieber, I loved this plodder of a movie, and will revisit again. Thanks for your review.
I’ve actually been waiting for this review for a while. This movie has become a guilty pleasure for me. Mostly because I’ve always been a fan of Gregory Hines. I have a suggestion for a review: the werewolf movie Full Eclipse with Mario Van Peebles
I saw this film years ago, and mostly I remember being shocked that vast sections of New York were ever this run-down (it looks like The Last of Us) and that Edward James Olmos was ever this young. He looks like his own grandson... and he was craggy even then!
I saw it when it came out and the main thing that stuck with me was the Wolf-O-Vision. That and the New York streetscapes, which probably have documentary value now like those in so many 80s movies.
I have a soft spot for the film, but it's a bit cluttered. There's too many ideas going on and ultimately feels incomplete. With a more streamlined/focused storyline, I think it would be a classic. Side story, I accidently upset Whitley Streiber (the writer of the book) & Peter Straub at a writers' retreat. 😕
I had totally forgotten this one, which may explain my contrarian take. As a werewolf movie, I thought the cop procedural made it too tedious. But, if your a fan of both Albert Finney and cop procedurals, its good. The Native American connection was interesting, but too much build up before the reveal and not enough "wolf" to maintain my own interest.
This is the movie I missed of the three that came out pretty much at the same time, namely: An American Werewolf in London, The Howling and of course Wolfen. I was told it was the most realistic of the three. I remember they were saying 'wolves in the city.' I will have to watch it someday. American Werewolf in London is the better of the three - that's pretty much the consensus. The Howling, ... Well I remember the critics back then saying that it fell in the trap horror movies dread...Ridicule. The audiences were reportedly howling and laughing at the most dramatic moments - and I get it. For my part, having seen it on First Choice (the canadian paying cable Movie channel of the day along with Superchannel) the effects were spot on but the storytelling was most definitely not on the same level.
I'm still waiting for a movie version of George R. R. Martins "The Skin Trade" - my God if that isn't the best werewolf story ever written.
Saw this in the 80s and loved it so much I bought the Strieber novel. Way ahead of it's time & Finney gave a great performance.
Fantastic review a great film. This was one of my favorites growing up. Solid cast and intriguing story.
I thought it was pretty good and there were a lot of genuinely tense moments. I also appreciated the more naturalistic style and acting. But something is lost or doesn't resonate now the way it would have back in the early 80s, which was just starting to recover from the 1970s malaise and urban decay. I don't know, but the message doesn't quite gel for a modern audience. Or at least for me. It seems like there was an opportunity here to make something great, but instead just came out "OK".
LAW AND ORDER: Supernatural Division.
This was a favourite on video. Carl Fullertons gore FX were fantastic.
I liked Wolfen a lot for the same reasons. Hines is very good playing a very good part. Part of what makes it enjoyable is that it's a bit different I thought. Sure maybe it's a little slow. I also liked Finney in it & really can't gripe about anything I've seen him in.
You are the first person that I have seen to give this movie a positive view. FANGO and the Gore Score by Chas Balun tore it up back in the day. I have only seen bits and pieces so I'm definitely going to give it a chance
Saw this at a special 35mm film screening- really enjoyed it.
Meh..Too silly to be taken seriously as a police procedural and the closest this film got to horror was seeing podgy Finney's naked arse.
Wolfen is not a werewolf movie. It is a speculative science fiction movie that explores the idea of a race of super-wolves that are so fast and so intelligent that they have managed to live alongside humanity without being discovered throughout our joint existence.
The book is better at showing this than the movie, because in the book the Wolfen are more like the Homo habilis equivalent of wolves. They have opposable thumbs and a language made up of a combination of vocalization and gestures. They aren't as technologically advanced as us because nature has given them all the in-built technology they need to be the ultimate apex predator.
Wolfen is a good movie, but there is a much better movie to be made based on the original story, if anyone actually reads it.
Of the two horror thrillers Albert Finney did around this time, Wolfen has more oomph and Looker more gloss. Both worth a look though.
I passionately love this movie; were I only allowed ten desert Island discs, Wolfen would be one of them. The novel is also very good, though only marginally similar to the film.
I have always liked it, but it is NOT a werewolf movie in the slightest. Also read the book which is good, though not great - same as with the movie for me then.
Also i think of note is the eerie score by a young James Horner.
What we need are more buddy-buddy cop monster movies. As long as the monsters are King Kong and Godzilla and that it's based on the mean streets of an inner city.
I have to admit, I rather enjoy this film. It's at least somewhat original in its approach to the whole Werefolf genre and I'll generally watch anything with Albert Finney in it at least once.
Admittedly it's was a serious struggle to get through "Looker."
please do not blaspheme Looker, an early teen fav of mine.
I enjoyed the book quite a lot so I was predisposed to like the movie. There were some notable changes but the fine acting covers over the films deficiencies. 2 hours with Finney and Hines is time well spent even if the scares and explanations from the book are watered down here.
I've always liked 'Wolfen', I saw it upon its release and thought that it was a more interesting take on the spate of other werewolf films of the time, with perhaps the exception of 'The Company of Wolves' which again doesn't seem to get the recognition that I think both these films deserve.
It's been a long time, but I liked that it was a film... about monsters, as opposed to a "monster movie". A film that is crafted, rather than a film that is made for the content alone.
Never seen this one, which surprises me, though it might not have had a wide release in Australia at the time. Will now have to track it down. Thanks for the recommendation.
It also features an early score from James Horner. I heard this was what got him the Star Trek II-gig.
I love this movie. I have not seen it in years but the head biting scene is one of the best.
Saw this when it came out and was unimpressed with most of it. I think I was looking for a more traditional werewolf movie.
Not seen it for years but did like it a fair bit. Never considered it a werewolf flick through.
An old favourite. Must rewatch...
I saw it in the early 90s and I found it a bit long and especially preachy.
One of the very best werewolf films even even though they are not werewolves. They are a species of intelligent urban wolf.
the novel has more in common with jaws than with any mythological werewolf story, since the author wanted to provide a natural explanation for the same mythological concept, as he did with vampires in "the hunger".
Eyy
I need to revisit this one. I saw it as a kid when it came out and don't remember anything about it. The Howling, on the other hand, I've seen a hundred times, and it's one of my favorites.
Love me some Wolfen! Mainly because it's not a slash-tear-rip em' up werewolf movie, but instead a horror/whodunit that gives us just enough dollops of scares and gore. The entire cast is great (shoutout to Edward James Olmos as 'Eddie Holt') and it was shot on location in the South Bronx--they didn't have to dress any exterior sets because the rubble and decay was already there.
Saw it the first time it aired on tv. Was preoccupied with trying to get homework done but kept getting dawn in by the investigative side of the film. I was expecting Werewolf in London gore but it never happened.
Skinwalking legend here in AZ has a darker tone to it and wolf lore runs along the lines that wolves were once brothers of man but a split of some kind caused them to forget familial ties and they became hunter/prey adversaries. I vaguely recall why they were killing in the film and always meant to give it a rewatch. I do remember being not bored with what was running in the background while trying to finish my work.
This is a really good movie.
It was incredible on the big screen.
I did like this. Good casting makes all the difference in the world.
I liked the majority of the 1980's werewolf films. Granted, they started off strong with *The Howling* and *An American Werewolf in London,* and kind of petered out with the sequels, but I like *Wolfen* quite a bit. I think that it helps that the Wolfen are never seen until the end. When you realize they are invisible, it always gave me chills up the spine throughout the film, knowing that they are probably in the frame following the characters, but you just can't see them (playing on how dependent we humans are on visual eye sight, and ignore the rest of our senses to our detriment).
One of my favorite “werewolf” movies. It crosses genres, and is better for it.
I saw this on late-night TV as a kid years ago. I really liked it as a horror/suspense film. I didn't get the impression they were werewolves, especially the scene where the main cop watches the one guy act wild but then he drops the act, which told me it's just a tale to the tribe more than a serious belief. I felt the wolves were just very smart killers and the film was definitely pushing an eco-friendly message. I didn't know there was a book, don't think I'll read it, but now I want to watch this classic again.
I love how a truly great actor can transform a typically cliche character into something amazing. Finney does that here.
Wolfen is a good movie! Well worth watching!
Saw it in the theatrical release and enjoyed it because of how different it was to the others in the genre. Watched it a few more times over the years
Love this one! For me, it’s right up there with The Howling.
A great film, with one of the most haunting scores in movie history for me.
I saw it in the theater when it first came out, a very good haunting film.
Saw it in the theater when it came out. Loved it then and love it now.
One of those movies that has aged so well. Very over looked in looking at horror history
Terrific movie. The Howling is still tops
The Wolfen will come for you with his razor.
Good movie. They don't make them like that anymore.
Yeah, this is a good film. Works for what you said.