@@yourallbrainwashed You are not totally wrong about MD but when Tacie was host on the AE, she would also hog the call. I recall one in particular when John Iacoleti was cohosting and tried to get a word in edgewise on a call, more than once, only to have Tracie cut him off. When the call was over, she looked at John and said "John, you need to jump in and speak up more often". I did a mental face palm. Bless her heart. Still a TH fan.
dineshdharme The Atheist Experience were being transphobic and Tracie left in protest. Her last two episodes of Godless Bitches covers a lot of what happened.
So nice to see Tracie! She has a perfect balance of compassion and logic that she rolls into a smooth vision. I am thankful for your activism Seth, and a big thank you to Tracie as well.
I'm convinced Tracie has one of the most brilliant minds in public society. Sincerely hope she continues to share it with all who truly appreciate her. 👍❤
I love Tracie and Jen. I miss them so much. They are so awesome and spoke truth to help all of us better understand our change or breaking away from religion. Thank you so much Seth for having this interview 👍🏽😊❤️
... and John. The change was probably good for them, but they need to be interviewed on other podcasts so we can feel reassured they're all doing well. Every one of them has so many things to offer in a variety of conversations. They're all missed!
Tracie was by far my favourite host. She, along with others, influenced me to search fot the truth and question my indoctrination. I'm so glad she's still around.
Stoked to find out Tracie has a podcast. I am subscribed! Really miss her on AxP. Don't think she'll be going back but damn I would be happy if she did.
Tracie's product, making society fair and accessible to everyone, I'd definitely buy that. If only the people in power had Tracie's compassion and logic.
Tracie always has well thought out perspectives... I miss her so much! She has a talent for saying things in new and interesting ways that help me communicate my own thoughts and values better to others. Thanks for this interview. Hope you invite her back soon!
I wish Tracie had more talking media. I always struggle to grasp concepts and Tracie explains things so well that I can understand even complicated concepts that she talks about.
One time when i was really down on my luck, i emailed a handful of local churches to see if I could get even a very small amount of assistance. All i got was a "I'll pray for you", or no response at all. I wasnt asking for money. I was struggling very badly with depression, and I needed help. Nobody cared.
Depression brought me to my knees. I even prayed twice to feel better. That was my lowest point. But meditation, pills and a shrink brought me back almost to full recovery. Pills are sometimes savers. Keep it up. Andhope you don't get it again. But it takes a while
@Dark Hymns From The Cold North @atrot30001 Anti-depressants are my ace in the hole! I was afraid of them before, in part because my psychiatrist was such a crummy listener. I’ve read that it usually takes 4 to 8 weeks for the anti-depressant to work, and that it’s trial-and-error in a respectful, scientific way. Meaning, everyone’s biochem is a little different. I’ve also read that a doctor might need to tinker with the dosage, and at times prescribe a whole different anti-depressant for the patient to try. And most important, don’t go cold turkey. Even if the side effects really suck, taper off on your own. You can choose a psychiatrist, or for those like me who haven’t had the greatest experiences, you can choose a quote “regular” doctor like an internist or family practitioner. These doctors are also legally allowed to prescribe anti-depressants, and since depression is pretty damn common, many of them in fact will. And health care systems can of course have parts and aspects which royally suck - meaning you or I might not get to pick doctors like we really should. So yeah, I might need to stay flexible. That’s my game plan! If either of you two or anyone else can suggest some potential improvements, I’m all ears. Thanks. 😊 🚴🏽♂️
I don't think it's that they don't care, I think it's more likely that they aren't equipped to respond outside the context of their religion. Tracie actually talked about this on the Atheist Experience one time. The context was that someone called in and talked about living a shameful and sinful life and everything got way better for them as soon as they returned to their church. She pointed out that religion doesn't give people the tools or framework to live in the world if they decide to leave the religion and so they end up going back to what makes sense to them. They can only say that they'll pray for you because they've been taught that everything should be handed over to god or prayed about.
I am going to echo all the other comments... Seth you are great.. but it's sooo nice to see Tracie online. I'm reading this 5 months later and very happy to now be following her on Twitter. Please get her back on.
I am glad to hear from Tracie. She was my favourite Atheist Experience host. She was always measured and she didn't disappoint. I will be listening to her podcast.
Interesting talk by Tracy about moralities. I've been saying for years that the way I respond to theists who ask me "where do morals come from?" when I'm arguing against objective morality is that morals come from people's sympathy, empathy, and compassion. That's it. That's why morals are obviously subjective, because they are completely dependant on a person's compassion for the person being acted on. If you don't see other races as equal, you don't care if they are marginalized or even brutalized. That's how a person who might act morally toward other people can act quite immorally against animals. It's pretty obvious when you think about it for just a few seconds.
@John Gonzales _"Are you sure that human moral systems don't typically also have an objective, completely pragmatic dimension?"_ -- Absolutely. _"Fairness, for example, helps promote social harmony and enhance productive contributions to group flourishing by the largest proportion of individuals."_ -- How is "fairness" determined? It's that just an opinion? (Quick answer: yes, which makes it subjective.) _"Empathy and sympathy demonstrably help foster healthy human development and reduce mental and emotional disability and social dysfunctionalism."_ -- You are correct. But how is "empathy" or "sympathy" measured? Are they the opinion of a human (i.e. the "subject")? How is this _not_ subjective? _"We know quite a bit about group behavior at this point, and so-called "universal morals" are generally time-tested practices and prohibitions that contribute to conditions of individual and group security and have been codified in legal systems while being reinforced through culture-wide mores."_ -- Okay. But how does this argue for or against morals being subjective? Just because the majority can agree on what should or should not be an ethical activity, doesn't make those opinions objective. It just means that the _SUBJECTIVE OPINION_ of the majority (or of the leadership) is forced on other people. _"Christians pretend that morals are "written on our hearts," yet they still use secular child-rearing practices and nurture their children as though moral behavior does indeed need to be taught."_ -- Yes, and that is a person (i.e. the subject) teaching another person to have the particular set of subjective self-imposed rules that they have (or think the child should have). There is still a "subject" in play here, which makes these things subjective. All of these things require a subject (the person thinking about them and having opinions about them) to exist. They are, BY DEFINITION, subjective. These opinions can't exist without the people who have them. I don't understand how any of this refutes subjectivity. People (and I get the feeling you fall under this category) feel like if something is "subjective", that means that it's meaningless. I can't fathom how that tracks. Subjective things are what we have control over. Public opinion can be swayed. We can work for (what is "subjectively" because it's our opinion) a "better" future. If morals were "objective", as xians think, then it would still be perfectly moral to murder your children for talking back or murdering people for working on the wrong day of the week. We should be GLAD that morals are subjective, because that means we can improve upon them. We can drive society to be a better version of what it is. If morals were objective, we could never, ever improve them. We have no sway over the objective laws of the universe. We can't "decide" that pie should be 3 because it makes math so much easier. It is what it is regardless of people's opinions about it. It's objective.
@John Gonzales _"Whether a group is able to function at a high level and whether individuals within it are able to contribute productively while not succumbing to mental health issues on a wide scale are not subjective factors at all."_ -- You're wrong again. It must be weird to not be able to understand such simple concepts. First, "high level" is a subjective term. What YOU mean by "high level" and what someone else means by "high level" could be completely different things. This is a subjective term. Second, whether someone "succumbs to mental health issue" isn't morality. We're talking about morality. _MORALITY._ *_MORALITY!_* Why are you changing the subject? Oh, right! Because you want to inject some perceived "objective" twist to it. That's the only thing you people have. When the discussion starts about how MORALITY is subjective or objective, you can't just stick with MORALITY. You have to bring other things in to muddle the conversation. So, once again I ask you, what is the fucking problem with morality being subjective? What dog do you have in this fight? Why is it SO important that morality have an objective element that makes people like you lose their minds and refuse to understand basic established definitions for words?
@John Gonzales _"Empathy and sympathy are terms for a behaviors_ (of a SUBJECT) _Yet all of these can contribute to measurable outcomes with objective metrics."_ -- Yes, this is correct. So what? They don't DIRECTLY contribute, they INDIRECTLY contribute. These things can direct to an objective outcome, but it's still only the outcome that is objective.
@John Gonzales _"Some people throw around silly generalizations and fetishize terms that they misdefine or incorrectly define, and you are one such."_ -- Interesting that you make this accusation, but you can't actually point to where I'm wrong. It appears that you don't understand what the word "subjective" even means. _"Your feelings are indeed subjective, and we only have partial influence over, and absolutely no control over subjective beliefs or perspectives until we are able to program a human being like a software application and morally violate a human being by doing so."_ -- I'm curious why you think this matters in the conversation. Remember, the subject of this conversation is *_MORALITY._* How we _feel_ about something. Our _judgement_ of something. That makes them, once again, BY DEFINITION, subjective. You admit that "beliefs" are subjective and then argue that the belief of morality isn't. You really can't make up your mind, can you?
Ahh, to walk hand in hand, bare footed, in shorts around the lagoon in Tahiti sipping some good wine under a full moon with Tracie and enjoying our time together. Flowers in her hair and the moon reflected in her eyes. Joy beyond words
I see Seth: I click. I see Tracie: Click click click click click....... Thank you Seth for having Tracie on the show. Cheers from a viewer in San Diego. :)
@@bradzimmerman3171 I'll go back eventually, but I'm still feelin salty about the way the ACA handled the situation with Rationality Rules last year. I do still watch and support Matt Dillahunty and a couple of the other individuals from the ACA.
@@the_regular_dinosaurus_rex honestly, idk if I can say I'll go back. There are a lot of other really great atheist youtubers that I'm enjoying and learning from.
Love Tracie, the pebble that knocked the stone into the rock before the bolder of my Atheism. Happy to see her doing well. Glad I got to see her live but sad I had to leave early and missed my chance to meet her.
Thanks for having her, You both are great. Hopefully she'll stick around for long, maybe ... DAILY !!! She has a LOT TO GIVE , she's so gifted that society needs to listen to what she has to say ...
In response to the conversation about someone feeling more and more frustrated until something erupts, I'm reminded of what Marilyn Manson said on "Bowling For Columbine" when he was asked what he would have said to Harris and Klebold that might have changed what happened: "I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did." The caller makes a good point, and Tracie unpacks it well. Thank you for that!
For most people ID is the Driver's License. I spent a fair bit of my adult life being unable to drive due to a phobia and had to get a non-drivers license ID and it was tricky (i.e. you had to get to the DMV, despite note being able to drive).
I used to love Tracie as an TAE host. Matt's impatience is very entertaining, but Tracie didn't take any crap either. Yet she had a unqiue ability to tell people to ef off while being really nice about it.
N then when I thought I would never here from such a smart and gifted lady.i feel relieved that you are still out there Tracie. I and others out here are so glad to hear your voice of reason and wisdom.
Maybe The inverse of listening is the ability to argue or present a case, perhaps a debate. It is obvious to me that a large % of the population has difficulty with critical thinking. Many believe they just know. This is the problem.
It's funny. I see Tracie's posts every day on Facebook, and even have some very light interaction every few weeks with her on her wall. But it's great to hear her in this format. For whatever reason, it's a format that works well for her. Thanks.
I'm going to make a guess here that Tracie has been looking at expanding the things she "cares about"/"has influence in" for quite some time. This is the first time I have seen her since she was with the ACA and her knowledge; insight; and ways she can portray the things she cares about seems almost boundless. Awesome to see where you are going and what you are up to these days Tracie and your ability to effectively communicate new ways of looking at societal problems is just outstanding. I'm going to be shameless here: donated to the gofundme link. Hopefully others will too... BTW, watched this a day later so, not real time. (if this a foopar for youTube comments, let me know)
I’m here because I saw Tracie. That was enough to get me to watch.
Ikr
Idk seth and that velvety voice...
Same
Same here.
Natasha Nyxx I miss her being on the Atheist Experience.
I really miss Tracie. She's the most gifted call-in host the Atheist Experience has had. I was so disappointed when they parted ways.
I totally agree.
@@things_leftunsaid probably got tired of Matt being a hog with the show, and being a self-righteous arrogant jackoff.
@@yourallbrainwashed your not brainwashed? maybe delusional or full of it, you KNOW what you're talking about
@@yourallbrainwashed
You are not totally wrong about MD but when Tacie was host on the AE, she would also hog the call. I recall one in particular when John Iacoleti was cohosting and tried to get a word in edgewise on a call, more than once, only to have Tracie cut him off. When the call was over, she looked at John and said "John, you need to jump in and speak up more often". I did a mental face palm.
Bless her heart.
Still a TH fan.
dineshdharme The Atheist Experience were being transphobic and Tracie left in protest. Her last two episodes of Godless Bitches covers a lot of what happened.
Absolutely am delighted to see that Tracie is doing well. She is a wonderful person and have missed her. Hope nothing but the best for her.
Cut the shit man....you just got the hot's for her like the rest of us.
@@sensiblyhonest695 I'm happy to admit I have the hots for her. The older she gets, the hotter she looks.
Tracie needs a daily show. I need to hear her everyday.
Exactly this 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Agreed ✌😎👍
I'd settle for once a week. I learn a lot from her.
@@ChickenChowMein77 she's so clear and concise with it. Well thought out. There are not too many as good as her at what she does.
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So nice to see Tracie! She has a perfect balance of compassion and logic that she rolls into a smooth vision. I am thankful for your activism Seth, and a big thank you to Tracie as well.
100% agree.
She's a beautiful human all around.
I haven't even watched yet but just so glad to see Tracie Harris.
Me too!
The OG godless B herself!
Yeeyee
Agreed
Same!
I'm convinced Tracie has one of the most brilliant minds in public society. Sincerely hope she continues to share it with all who truly appreciate her. 👍❤
I love Tracie and Jen. I miss them so much. They are so awesome and spoke truth to help all of us better understand our change or breaking away from religion. Thank you so much Seth for having this interview 👍🏽😊❤️
Let me add Jeff, Russell and Martin to the mix of ex-hosts that are missed.
Same here
... and John. The change was probably good for them, but they need to be interviewed on other podcasts so we can feel reassured they're all doing well. Every one of them has so many things to offer in a variety of conversations. They're all missed!
@@PokieKnows John and Tracy were my two favorite hosts. Truly miss them.
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I've really missed Tracie on The Atheist Experience, so I was glad to hear her here, especially with her thoughts on so many different topics.
Yeah, I kinda stopped watching AE after she left.
I love how with every topic she talks about, she's all about ACTION and doing something to solve the issues in tangible ways.
Why did she leave?
@@babs1232 Something about an irrational fear of change
insylem thought it was to do with the Rationality Rules trans people in sports issue
I am so in awe of Tracie Harris - she is one of my top commentators on politics today!
Yeah! I'm from Argentina and I was looking for Tracie and Jen, they need to have a show in youtube.
Tracie always challenges my brain! I’m so glad you had her on again because I’ve been wondering what she’s up to.
Right? It's like a secret, LOL
Tracie was by far my favourite host. She, along with others, influenced me to search fot the truth and question my indoctrination. I'm so glad she's still around.
So I must ask, have you shed your indoctrination?
Been looking for Tracie and Jen since they left AXP so nice to find this. And Seth, always lovely!
She and Jen Peeples were soo great on AE. I really miss them.
This day was just made special. We get to see our National Treasure once again. Tracy, always know that you are loved!
Great to have you back Tracie. You have been greatly missed.
Stoked to find out Tracie has a podcast. I am subscribed! Really miss her on AxP. Don't think she'll be going back but damn I would be happy if she did.
It is so great to see Tracie. Clearly we’ve all missed her. More please!
What a nice change to hear her again! She always has a great perspective
Ahhh, love Harris, she's so reflected! Matt/Harris was always an entertaining duo on Atheist Experience.
4 sure , up there with Howard and Robin.
It's great to see Tracie. She rocks.
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Tracie's product, making society fair and accessible to everyone, I'd definitely buy that.
If only the people in power had Tracie's compassion and logic.
Just caught this 6 months late but really nice to see Tracie again. Miss her input so much.
So nice to see & hear from Tracie! Thanks Seth
Tracie always has well thought out perspectives... I miss her so much! She has a talent for saying things in new and interesting ways that help me communicate my own thoughts and values better to others. Thanks for this interview. Hope you invite her back soon!
I wish Tracie had more talking media. I always struggle to grasp concepts and Tracie explains things so well that I can understand even complicated concepts that she talks about.
Listening to Tracey and watching her lovely smile always makes your day better!
Hope to see more of her!
One time when i was really down on my luck, i emailed a handful of local churches to see if I could get even a very small amount of assistance. All i got was a "I'll pray for you", or no response at all. I wasnt asking for money. I was struggling very badly with depression, and I needed help. Nobody cared.
Depression brought me to my knees. I even prayed twice to feel better. That was my lowest point.
But meditation, pills and a shrink brought me back almost to full recovery.
Pills are sometimes savers.
Keep it up. Andhope you don't get it again.
But it takes a while
@@atrot30001 thank you for the words of encouragement. I really appreciate it.
@Dark Hymns From The Cold North
@atrot30001
Anti-depressants are my ace in the hole!
I was afraid of them before, in part because my psychiatrist was such a crummy listener.
I’ve read that it usually takes 4 to 8 weeks for the anti-depressant to work, and that it’s trial-and-error in a respectful, scientific way. Meaning, everyone’s biochem is a little different.
I’ve also read that a doctor might need to tinker with the dosage, and at times prescribe a whole different anti-depressant for the patient to try.
And most important, don’t go cold turkey. Even if the side effects really suck, taper off on your own.
You can choose a psychiatrist, or for those like me who haven’t had the greatest experiences, you can choose a quote “regular” doctor like an internist or family practitioner. These doctors are also legally allowed to prescribe anti-depressants, and since depression is pretty damn common, many of them in fact will.
And health care systems can of course have parts and aspects which royally suck - meaning you or I might not get to pick doctors like we really should. So yeah, I might need to stay flexible.
That’s my game plan!
If either of you two or anyone else can suggest some potential improvements, I’m all ears. Thanks. 😊 🚴🏽♂️
@@madams3478 Thank you. All advice is appreciated. Have a good day my friend.
I don't think it's that they don't care, I think it's more likely that they aren't equipped to respond outside the context of their religion. Tracie actually talked about this on the Atheist Experience one time. The context was that someone called in and talked about living a shameful and sinful life and everything got way better for them as soon as they returned to their church. She pointed out that religion doesn't give people the tools or framework to live in the world if they decide to leave the religion and so they end up going back to what makes sense to them. They can only say that they'll pray for you because they've been taught that everything should be handed over to god or prayed about.
I miss you Tracie. I've been listening to your reasoning and logic way back in the day. Bring it please..
Thank you for this I MISS seeing Tracy weekly. so much. She always made great point and kept her composure which is difficult to many.
yeah Tracie. So great to see you again.
I am going to echo all the other comments... Seth you are great.. but it's sooo nice to see Tracie online. I'm reading this 5 months later and very happy to now be following her on Twitter. Please get her back on.
I have missed Tracey
so much. I am glad to see she’s doing well.
So much you forgot how to spell her name!
Tracie Harris!!! good to hear her again.
Tracie Rocks!!!... You too Seth!!!
This was great! Glad to see Tracie still going strong!
Came looking for Seth after seeing him on AXP. Really enjoyed his input. What a joy to see the ultra brilliant Tracie here! Miss her so much!
I respect Tracie, I find her informative. She is very knowledgeable.
It was super nice to hear Tracie Harris again, she is awesome ^^
I agree Tracy. “You don’t want to go to a gunfight with a knife”
Love Tracie. I miss her brain. She had a way of striking right at the heart of issues. Glad to see she's still fighting the good fight.
I don’t know how I never saw this but damn Tracie is so damn good!
I am glad to hear from Tracie. She was my favourite Atheist Experience host. She was always measured and she didn't disappoint. I will be listening to her podcast.
Tracie Harris was my favorite host of ACA, you need her on more often!
I really enjoyed this. I've been missing Tracey's voice. Well done for treating such a sensitive topic so diligently.
I love this intelligent and articulate lady.
I really miss watching Tracie so I am pleased to hear that calming voice. Really appreciate both of you two excellent people and your work. Thanks
Being an ex-JW, I especially appreciate this podcast. I have been missing Tracy since I left Facebook. Great episode, Seth! 😉
This has been the best conversation I have heard this whole week. Thank you both for elevating the conversation.
Heck, best I've heard in years! I do live in SW KS tho 🤣🤣🤣
Hasn’t been the same without Tracie. Damnit.
Tracie's departure is not why it's different, but the reason it *_is_* different is why she left.
I miss Tracie!!!
Upvoted before listening because Tracie Harris
"Insidious", Tracie said "Insidious ". Perfect word for not only JW but for all religions.
Interesting talk by Tracy about moralities. I've been saying for years that the way I respond to theists who ask me "where do morals come from?" when I'm arguing against objective morality is that morals come from people's sympathy, empathy, and compassion. That's it. That's why morals are obviously subjective, because they are completely dependant on a person's compassion for the person being acted on. If you don't see other races as equal, you don't care if they are marginalized or even brutalized. That's how a person who might act morally toward other people can act quite immorally against animals. It's pretty obvious when you think about it for just a few seconds.
GREAT response! Thank you.
@John Gonzales _"Are you sure that human moral systems don't typically also have an objective, completely pragmatic dimension?"_ -- Absolutely.
_"Fairness, for example, helps promote social harmony and enhance productive contributions to group flourishing by the largest proportion of individuals."_ -- How is "fairness" determined? It's that just an opinion? (Quick answer: yes, which makes it subjective.)
_"Empathy and sympathy demonstrably help foster healthy human development and reduce mental and emotional disability and social dysfunctionalism."_ -- You are correct. But how is "empathy" or "sympathy" measured? Are they the opinion of a human (i.e. the "subject")? How is this _not_ subjective?
_"We know quite a bit about group behavior at this point, and so-called "universal morals" are generally time-tested practices and prohibitions that contribute to conditions of individual and group security and have been codified in legal systems while being reinforced through culture-wide mores."_ -- Okay. But how does this argue for or against morals being subjective? Just because the majority can agree on what should or should not be an ethical activity, doesn't make those opinions objective. It just means that the _SUBJECTIVE OPINION_ of the majority (or of the leadership) is forced on other people.
_"Christians pretend that morals are "written on our hearts," yet they still use secular child-rearing practices and nurture their children as though moral behavior does indeed need to be taught."_ -- Yes, and that is a person (i.e. the subject) teaching another person to have the particular set of subjective self-imposed rules that they have (or think the child should have). There is still a "subject" in play here, which makes these things subjective.
All of these things require a subject (the person thinking about them and having opinions about them) to exist. They are, BY DEFINITION, subjective. These opinions can't exist without the people who have them.
I don't understand how any of this refutes subjectivity. People (and I get the feeling you fall under this category) feel like if something is "subjective", that means that it's meaningless. I can't fathom how that tracks. Subjective things are what we have control over. Public opinion can be swayed. We can work for (what is "subjectively" because it's our opinion) a "better" future.
If morals were "objective", as xians think, then it would still be perfectly moral to murder your children for talking back or murdering people for working on the wrong day of the week.
We should be GLAD that morals are subjective, because that means we can improve upon them. We can drive society to be a better version of what it is. If morals were objective, we could never, ever improve them.
We have no sway over the objective laws of the universe. We can't "decide" that pie should be 3 because it makes math so much easier. It is what it is regardless of people's opinions about it. It's objective.
@John Gonzales _"Whether a group is able to function at a high level and whether individuals within it are able to contribute productively while not succumbing to mental health issues on a wide scale are not subjective factors at all."_ -- You're wrong again. It must be weird to not be able to understand such simple concepts.
First, "high level" is a subjective term. What YOU mean by "high level" and what someone else means by "high level" could be completely different things. This is a subjective term.
Second, whether someone "succumbs to mental health issue" isn't morality. We're talking about morality. _MORALITY._ *_MORALITY!_* Why are you changing the subject? Oh, right! Because you want to inject some perceived "objective" twist to it.
That's the only thing you people have. When the discussion starts about how MORALITY is subjective or objective, you can't just stick with MORALITY. You have to bring other things in to muddle the conversation.
So, once again I ask you, what is the fucking problem with morality being subjective? What dog do you have in this fight? Why is it SO important that morality have an objective element that makes people like you lose their minds and refuse to understand basic established definitions for words?
@John Gonzales _"Empathy and sympathy are terms for a behaviors_ (of a SUBJECT) _Yet all of these can contribute to measurable outcomes with objective metrics."_ -- Yes, this is correct. So what? They don't DIRECTLY contribute, they INDIRECTLY contribute. These things can direct to an objective outcome, but it's still only the outcome that is objective.
@John Gonzales _"Some people throw around silly generalizations and fetishize terms that they misdefine or incorrectly define, and you are one such."_ -- Interesting that you make this accusation, but you can't actually point to where I'm wrong. It appears that you don't understand what the word "subjective" even means.
_"Your feelings are indeed subjective, and we only have partial influence over, and absolutely no control over subjective beliefs or perspectives until we are able to program a human being like a software application and morally violate a human being by doing so."_ -- I'm curious why you think this matters in the conversation. Remember, the subject of this conversation is *_MORALITY._* How we _feel_ about something. Our _judgement_ of something. That makes them, once again, BY DEFINITION, subjective. You admit that "beliefs" are subjective and then argue that the belief of morality isn't. You really can't make up your mind, can you?
Haven't seen Tracey in a while. So nice to see she's doing well.
I miss Tracie as an host at the AXP. Even worse, the crisis communication at the ACA was abysmal in-transparent and unprofessional.
I miss Tracie's witty rebuttals on AXP. It's great to see her again, though! She was so good at talking to theist callers.
It made my day to see some new Tracie Harris content, I miss her so much!
Thanks Seth for having Tracie on fantastic
Yay! I love Tracie! I miss her a lot.
Thank you Seth for bringing Tracie on.
Ahh, to walk hand in hand, bare footed, in shorts around the lagoon in Tahiti sipping some good wine under a full moon with Tracie and enjoying our time together. Flowers in her hair and the moon reflected in her eyes. Joy beyond words
Wow. What a great conversation! Tracie made some perfectly nuanced and very important points 👌🏾
I see Seth: I click.
I see Tracie: Click click click click click.......
Thank you Seth for having Tracie on the show. Cheers from a viewer in San Diego. :)
Very inspiring podcast. I listened to Tracy Harris once or twice before, but hearing this, I really should be paying more attention.
Hi to both of you.. you both are awesome and I am happy to see you guys.. very nice to see and hear Ms. Tracie again. All love and respect.
Seeing and hearing Tracie Harris was fantastic!! I quit watching AXP when she and Jen left the ACA. I've missed her insights so much!
Shannon don't do that all of our support is important we can't let christianity continue
@@bradzimmerman3171 I'll go back eventually, but I'm still feelin salty about the way the ACA handled the situation with Rationality Rules last year. I do still watch and support Matt Dillahunty and a couple of the other individuals from the ACA.
@@sherman1280 same for me, but im not really sure, if ill go back. there are other options out there
@@the_regular_dinosaurus_rex honestly, idk if I can say I'll go back. There are a lot of other really great atheist youtubers that I'm enjoying and learning from.
I missed listening to her. One of the best minds in the community.
It's so nice to see Tracie, I miss her on the atheist experience.
Great to see and hear you Tracie!! Miss you.
Love Tracie, the pebble that knocked the stone into the rock before the bolder of my Atheism. Happy to see her doing well. Glad I got to see her live but sad I had to leave early and missed my chance to meet her.
Oh my yes!!!!
Can we anticipate a Jen Peeples/Thinking Atheist show in the near future?
I doubt it.
Love it! "How does being religious make you instantly moral?"
J being religious makes you instantly idiotic
Not🤐
It doesn't of course. I don't believe in any gods and I have raped and murdered all the people I want to. None
I've always had the utmost respect for Tracie Harris. She's out there making progress happen.
Ahhhh! I miss Tracie sooooo much!!!
Thanks for having her,
You both are great.
Hopefully she'll stick around for long,
maybe ... DAILY !!!
She has a LOT TO GIVE , she's so gifted that society needs to listen
to what she has to say ...
In response to the conversation about someone feeling more and more frustrated until something erupts, I'm reminded of what Marilyn Manson said on "Bowling For Columbine" when he was asked what he would have said to Harris and Klebold that might have changed what happened: "I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did." The caller makes a good point, and Tracie unpacks it well. Thank you for that!
TRACIE! *click* I've missed her so much 😭😭😭
For most people ID is the Driver's License. I spent a fair bit of my adult life being unable to drive due to a phobia and had to get a non-drivers license ID and it was tricky (i.e. you had to get to the DMV, despite note being able to drive).
Miss her on TTA. Lovely personality and a very knowledgeable host.
Overjoyed to hear Tracie's voice again!!!
Tracie. I miss youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!
I used to love Tracie as an TAE host. Matt's impatience is very entertaining, but Tracie didn't take any crap either. Yet she had a unqiue ability to tell people to ef off while being really nice about it.
N then when I thought I would never here from such a smart and gifted lady.i feel relieved that you are still out there Tracie. I and others out here are so glad to hear your voice of reason and wisdom.
Maybe The inverse of listening is the ability to argue or present a case, perhaps a debate.
It is obvious to me that a large % of the population has difficulty with critical thinking. Many believe they just know. This is the problem.
Tracie, good to hear from you, your way of expressing reason made me like you.
It's funny. I see Tracie's posts every day on Facebook, and even have some very light interaction every few weeks with her on her wall. But it's great to hear her in this format. For whatever reason, it's a format that works well for her. Thanks.
We need to see and hear more from TRACY!....YEAH!
Thanks for letting us hear Tracie again, she is wonderfull
Tracieeeeee I absolutely love you! Please, team up with Jeff Dee and start your own channel. I'm shure millions will follow you instantly !
Great to see you Tracie!!
Miss you!🤗
As a keen advocate of the Atheist Experience, I wondered where Tracie went. So good to hear her voice of reason again.
This is a wonderful and necessary discussion...one of TTAs best ❤️
Seth I think it will be a great idea to invite TRACIE once a week, SHE IS GREAT
Man... two of my favorite atheists together. :) And discussing THE prime issue of our time... it's gold.
I’m that guy for Seth now. I love this so much ... Seth is Gold!
I'm going to make a guess here that Tracie has been looking at expanding the things she "cares about"/"has influence in" for quite some time. This is the first time I have seen her since she was with the ACA and her knowledge; insight; and ways she can portray the things she cares about seems almost boundless. Awesome to see where you are going and what you are up to these days Tracie and your ability to effectively communicate new ways of looking at societal problems is just outstanding.
I'm going to be shameless here: donated to the gofundme link. Hopefully others will too... BTW, watched this a day later so, not real time. (if this a foopar for youTube comments, let me know)
Wow impressive avoidance tactic at 29:40 I recognize what's known Diffusion of responsibility
Wow! Tracie's example of our society as product and that product is not working as well for large segments of our population was simply brilliant!