I cannot believe people keep underrating Croatia throughout their history. They reached a WC semi once in 1998, and not to mention they have always produced lots of great/world-class players, whether it is from the generation of Boban, Suker, Prosinecki and the Kovac brothers and eventually Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic, Perisic and Mandzukic. They should always be feared IMO!
Humiliation. Great game by Croatia, they humiliated overrated players like Aguero and sadly, Messi. Too much hype over him, almost nothing from big games in recent couple of years.
Croatia should get more credit for this victory IMO. Everytime they were on the ball (especially on the second half), they looked dangerous as if they could score any minute, and they took their chances to eventually snatch the win. Also, to me it is about time people stop underrating Croatia in tournaments and treating them as mere dark horses only. They reached a WC semi once in 1998, and not to mention they have always produced lots of good players, whether it is Boban, Suker, Prosinecki, Simic, Srna and the Kovac brothers to eventually Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic, Perisic and Mandzukic. If anything they should always be feared IMO!
Timliu92 I am messi big fan ! but croatia was way superior. It is very easy to say that they boast at least top 3 best midfield in the WC. Rakitic from Barca Modric and kovacic from RM brozovic and perisic from Inter. they also have lovren vrjalsko corluka and mandzukic .... LoL argentina ? the moment i saw the line up i had heart attack .... acuna meza perez ...no 2 and no 3 wb playing CB. they were debutants ! no 2 is 30 and insignificant in term of ability no 3 plays for ajax ...hm .... why not fielded dybala di maria banega biglia fazio and rojo ? well one messi and 80% of the team were composed of washed up ?
Hadi Winata Betul banget bro. Gw masih bingung kenapa Sampaoli kagak start pakai Dybala, Di Maria atau Fazio yang lebih matang dan jauh lebih berpengalaman menghadapi tim-tim yang mumpuni di Eropa. Belum-belum pemain-pemain kayak Pastore atau Icardi kagak dipanggil, jadi lini depannya meski banyak bintang kurang ada greget atau penetrasinya. Secara taktik tadi malam Argentina juga benar-benar berantakan banget, terutama lini tengahnya yang hancur-hancuran dan jadi santapan pemain-pemain tengah mumpuni kayak Modric, Rakitic dan Kovacic. Haduh2...
Timliu92 Emang ... itu kroasia pny midfield kalau bkn no 1 at least top 3 lo gila rakitic modric perisic brozovic ... bahkan mereka ga bth striker menurut gue. rebic itu kayak figo ya hahahahaha .... lu liat ga ampe messi aja malas maen ...apaan meza dipertahankan aguero out maennya wide tapi ga ada skills and speed. pemain debutan man dimaenin ... pastore lamela kranevitter gue yakin >>>> 100 >> perez acuna dkk
i'm a Croatia fan but also a Messi fan. Not enough credit to both.i'm going to puke if i hear any more cr7 propaganda. Technically Argentina could still qualify for playoff....hope it happens.
Croatia was better team. Simple as that. Very strong, disciplined and with a game plan. Argentina is just a group of good players. But where was Messi? Best player in the world?
John Wigmore so? Ronaldo used to have Raul Meireles Miguel Veloso and Carlos Martins in midfield. Who are they? We only know Meireles and even so... Yet no one complained because at the time Messi was doing fine with his teams now that he isn't everyone sees how Ronaldo suffered
They don't know who Rebić is, the guy single handled Bayern in German cup final and he had very good season in Frankfurt under Niko Kovač who is now coach of Bayern , if that isn't good enough invitation to take closer look at player I don't know what should be. You know football is been playing outside The Kingdom also. And then you have Lovren in Liverpool ( CL finalist), Brozović and Perišić in Inter (ok Inter isn't top 5 clubs of Europe anymore but still it's Inter), Vrsaljko in AM you don't play for Diego Simeone if you are not for real (maybe after this game he's gonna have some rough time in AM), Kramarić in Hoffeenheim they advanced in CL I think for first time and he's theire top 2 players and Subašić is top 2-3 goalkeeper in France leauge for last 5 years he won golden glow of France leauge two seasons ago I think, Strinić just sign for AC Milan (ok AC Milan isn't the AC Milan that we know from past but it's better than playing in China), Badelj in Fiorentina and Kovačić in RM and they are coming from bench. Yeah they looking prrety impresive to me evan without Modrić, Rakitić and Mandžukić. All they need is good coach. Get some info it's not hard these days.
BC everyone expects messi to win WC since the last 8 years. so the stupid pundits have a legitimate reason to call someone the goat. like their life depends on it.
William Woha lol the taping merchant just scored 4 goals with one of the weakest squads in worldcup 2018,while messi the goat couldn't do shit with world class players around him.smh
All these damn old geezers and Messi apologist.. “ohh I feel sorry for the little lad” if this was Ronaldo playing like that and looking not interested y’all would crucify him.
Neil Buzz Hadfield hmm let me guess the grammar police weird profile pic, I’m 100% sure you’re gay . Yea I’m American with Jamaican origin, we stone your kind to death In islands.
Damian Duff "Messi dragged Argentina to the 2014 Final single handedly".....is Duff high? He scored 4 group stage goals against Bosnia, Nigeria & Iran. 1 assist against Switzerland in the round of 16 and then not a single goal or assist after that point.....Come on Duff. It was Argentina's defense that got them to that final. Messi got them out of a very weak group if we are going to be honest.
D C78 finally some honesty thankyou.I don't know why they find it hard to be truthful and spread these misleading lies imagine if someone watched this without knowing facts or just started watching football.smh these old wankers would Suck messi's dick if they could I tell ya!!
Ronaldo didn’t drag Portugal to win the euro, he didn’t even play in the final. Also they didn’t win a single game in 90 minutes so Ronaldo didn’t win games with goals.
Without him they would have been eliminated. He scored the decisive goal vs Wales as well. He played a bigger hand than Messi did, and ultimately... was more decisive. Nobodys saying he did everything single handedly in the Euros, thatd be silly.
Catarina Amado if Argentina would win, they would say Messi won, when they lose then he's got no help , what a joke, assholes all of them. Argentina are a bunch of sore losers, they thought they would win for sure, look at how many dirty fouls they committed, a joke, but of course it was Croatia who was carded, and whistled for fouls constant
Well he didn't play that good tonight that is for sure. But still the media should look at Argentina as a whole not just Messi. I didn't watch Ronaldos games ( sorry, but I don't like him that much.... but he is still a great player )...so I can't really say how well they are doing. Perhaps he is better. I am just happy that my country kicked Argentinas ass :)
the media and the messi fanboys are just toxic ... if Argentina wins a trophy its all about messi , but if the lose its all about their squad and manager . but not about messi
Messi-more than 700 goals Modric- about 200 I think Messi- 6 ballon d’ors Modric-1 Messi- 3 trophies with 🇦🇷 Modric- 0 with 🇭🇷 Messi is still by far better, one match prove Modric outplaying Messi for a while but as time flies, performance changes and Argentina proved it by defeating Croatia 3-0
@@davidvilla1247 of course messi is better player, Messi is one of the best players in history of football. But you put national teams statistics. Why? Argentina play in South America, Croatia in Europe. Obviously the continental tournaments are not same so there is no point to compare. World cup, OK argentina won twice but Messi won 0/2 of these 2. So ok croatia was once second, once thrid but croatia exist only scince 1995. Argentina independence was much earlyer. So ok, Messi is better.
@@davidvilla1247 Dude, did u just manage to compare 2 different positions/players? And u also managed to compare euro national squad/clubs to SA squads? Lol, ye sure, if Modric still played that messi's role like in the long past he would have like 1000 goals, and if much more harder and competitive EC is played every 2 yrs like Copa - he would have massive statistics. Statistics is like a bikini dude, they don't releval all the shit on the pitch. I mean Modric outclassed him and entire ARG team - and whats even more important - Messi just walked away after the match without doing a post-match handshake. One match doesn't prove anything? Really? Recently, ARG goalie in Qatar got golden glove because of ONE match, final. His statistics are so poor comparing to CRO goalie Livakovic who was by far better both on the pitch and in the stats throughout the WC. This is the WC - every match is very important. Every!
Liam had it right. Croatia deserves respect. Rebic Modric and Rakatic were the ones to blame, not Messi. Argentina needs more work to gel as a team. Croatia is a great team.
I think that all the adulation of Messi, both by his fanboys and also 90% of the media, is one of the main factors in augmenting all of the pressure on Messi. He is almost universally acclaimed, by the media, as the GOAT. Well, that means he has to live up to that in every game he plays, and much more during key tournaments. He doesn't have to fail (and he is still scoring, and playing, exceptionally during the regular season), but when Ronaldo does brilliantly (as he always does during Champions' League, and now during the two most recent international tournaments), it needlessly multiplies the pressure on Messi. Of course, Messi tries to bring his team up, but when he can't do it, and Ronaldo does lead his team, it further drives Messi down. I would not be surprised if Messi retires from international play after this tournament. He does not need the abuse. Ronaldo is not generally recognized as the GOAT, so he does not have anywhere near the same pressure. Ronaldo uses the adulation of Messi to his own advantage, and always tries to be better. Furthermore, as both Ronaldo and Messi have aged, their physical attributes have changed. Messi was never fast, but he was always very quick, especially in the penalty area. Well, he has lost some quickness, and cannot always get by players as easily as he did a half dozen years ago. Ronaldo can still sprint the length of the field (as he did a few times during the Spain match), but he only does it a few times a game. Ronaldo has retrained his physique to excel in the penalty area, and he is today without peer in the penalty box in the whole world. They are both brilliant players, and we should consider ourselves fortunate to see two supreme superstars at the same time. They are both setting records that will probably never be broken. But, whereas Ronaldo is actually motivated by pressure, and even criticism, it is obvious that Messi is actually devastated.
Wish you people would stop exaggerating. He's the best player playing now. Just leave it at that. Personally I could easily think of at least 20 retired players I would have taken ahead of both Messi and Ronaldo, although Ronaldo is definitely moving up the list slowly. Messi is not. If anything he is moving down.
Us people that havent seen people play 20+ years ago will just look at videos of times back then when defending was somewhat poor and less organized compared to now and brush it off. Whether we are right or wrong about how great the greats of previous generations really were, there is no amount of evidence that will convince us as a group that what we know as the best arent the best ever. A sad truth about history in general.
Robert Bertus Defending used to be much better. Defending is worse now than it ever has been in the history of the sport. And attacking players are pandered to and "protected" more than ever too.
I mean that definitely isnt true if you look at the average number of goals per game since 1950. I highly doubt human physique has changed much in the past few years, if anything we have become stronger looking at olympic records, although I credit that to training methods. So if our strikers are stronger than before, and, as you stated, attacking players are pandered to... then the amount of goals every game should be sky rocketing to an average of 7+. It obviously isnt, and the only conclusion I can make out is that defensive tactics are far superior now.
@Robert Bertus Well, then you people are morons who see what you want to see. Defenders also got away with a lot more, which is the other side of the coin that you intentionally refuse to see, just so you can have your moronic hero worship sessions about present day mediocrities. Defenses could do things in the 70s and 80s that they can't even consider doing now, such as constant shirt holding. Zico, Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Laudrup, Ronaldo etc etc. The list of players that were better than these two buffoons, and who played with defenders hanging onto their shirts for 90 minutes, is endless. Well it isn't endless, but if you can invent nonsensical things to have as your opinions then so can I! And things like the backpass was still legal, which led to scoring being much, much lower back then than it is now. There was no added time, so teams wasted time more than now. Lots and lots of massive changes have been made to the sport specifically to increase the amount of goals. This is not because Messi and Ronaldo are the greatest players ever. They are benefiting from the changes, that is all. I seriously doubt whether Messi could have survived even a single football game in 1982 without crying for mommy or quitting. Ronaldo might have, but he wouldn't have been scoring many goals. No one did, except truly exceptional players. Plus, you're making all the non-morons hate the players you pretend to like so much with your wild exaggerations that are based exclusively on ignorance about the past and about the sport they are playing. Because of you I now have the opinion that the Underwear Model and the Chinless Wonder are mediocre players. And no amount of evidence will convince me that what I know to be true isn't so. There, now we're two morons. I blame you for always exaggerating like this though. You made me a moron.
Media is something like this : Messi missed the penalty but Argentina didn't lose because of him , its because of their manager and the other players Also Media : Messi scored the penalty Argentina won because of Messi 1 man team won the game !
Miguel Borges Messi carried them to the WC final in 2014😂😂 you can't expect Messi to perform with that shit team, he has no support from midfield or attack
Gerry Adams I think we see with the amount of likes you have...0... Miguel Borges had a better argument. Messi is not a winner like Ronaldo is. Period. He lost 3 finals in a row with Argentina. That's pathetic.
Gerry Adams Messi scored 4 goals in Group stage wc2014... then disappeared during KO, Semifinal, Final... only one player scored after group stage was Higuain for Argentina. LOL
We can comment/blame on individual/team performance till the cows come home. End of the day there will be only two teams and one of them the winner. This is the road that leads to the final two teams. Let's sit back and enjoy this great sport and finally congratulate the winner of the WC.
It's a bit unfair to say Messi dragged Argentina to the last final, Mascherano was easily as important to that team, its just a shame that age has caught up with him.
Mascherano is 34, Ronaldo is 33. Thats not an excuse, Mascherano is simply a mediocre player who never did anything more than put in hard work. Kind of like Gattuso for Italy. But now he's too unmotivated and straight up lazy and should not be on this team at all.
Jaysus Robert, you really don't like "Monster Masch" at all do you, and what have Ronaldo and Gattuso got to do with anything? One doesn't play over 300 games for peak era Barcelona if one is mediocre, especially as a 5'9" centre-half. If his skill set was merely that he worked hard then surely we'd see a lot more of his ilk gracing the best teams in the world. I will agree that he shouldn't be in the team but you sound like an arse when you state he's lazy and unmotivated, how the fuck would someone like you know?
He is an entertainer, and as such, he is meant to be judged by the fans. No fans means no football, and if we do not judge him then who will? I brought up Ronaldo because of the similarities in age, and I brought up Gattuso because of the similarities in midfielder playstyle. I always bring analogies to an argument in an effort to emphasize the lack of logical discrepancy.
Messi best player? Lol and he cant carry his team to a win. Ronaldo does it, how is it Messi cant do it. Simple answer is he's only good with Barca. Bow down to king Ronaldo.
Criticizing Messi, especially after this performance, is fair. Sucking Ronaldo's cock all the time is getting annoying though. 1 goal in World Cups before this one. Dive penalty, dive free kick and goalkeeper mistake and then a header and now he's the best ever. It's all so stupid.
Arxienne Romanova yeah Ronaldo really carried his team when they came third in the group in Euro 2012 and in the final while he was injured on the bench, and in the 2010 and 2014 world cups
"Messi is a barcelona player" - Sir Alex Fact - Messi is average outside of Barca's system. Great players can adapt and play with anybody, with any team and do well. There's a damn good reason Messi will never leave his comfort zone at Barca...
Thabang Mesilemoth yet he was still in the final and won golden ball, while Ronaldo went out in the groups and scored only one goal in the last game of the group, Dumbass
Martin Rosario true wc golden ball is more of a consolation prize on some occasions ex: Brazilian Ronaldo didnt win it in 2002 despite netting home twice in final vs germany and a record 8 in total
Ronaldo got 1 goal last WC lol, no one mentioning that. He's got nothing on Messi in overall attributes as a football, he's nowhere near Messi . Balon bore meanings nothing
Perceptive JEC Ronaldo was injury all the time at that tournament. Are you really comparing a below average team of portugal with a powerhouse like argentina.
I'm tired of telling Messi fans facts just so they can see it all in the games and still be intellectually dishonest about what they're witnessing. Elimination from the group stage will be a complete legacy killer.
MrJonnyl123 Not a Ronaldo fan but what Ronaldo did at the Euros makes your criticism irrelevant. Don't forget Messi missed a penalty at the Cope America to win the tournament. He is a legend but greatest of all time he is not.
William Woha i dont know 3 goals assists. Remember 2 goals against hungary? Remember goals vs wales at semi. Remember tying platini as top scorer in euro all time? U messi fanboys are the one having a parade when he has a pre assist and all these things ronaldo did at euro is nothing? Plz come out of messi's asshole ASAP. The guy is a legend but when its clear as daylight that he had a shit game come and say it
If they have Modrić, they will be like Real, few WC , also in a row, and also Chile would never gone to a penalty stage in those two finals. If they have a Rakitić, as well, unbeatable, really. ;)
Last world cup Portugal went out in groups and Ronaldo only scored one goal in the last group game which was meaningless. Messi got the golden ball and got Argentina to the WC final last WC in Brazil. Idiot, short memories
Firstly CR7 actually fucking scored....Portugals group was harder than Messi's.....Also Messi didn't deserve golden ball he had less goals and assists than other players...Just bias from FIFA is why he won...Being the best dribbler in the world does NOT make you the best player in the world.....Maybe messi>cr7, but he is 110% NOT the G.O.A.T
patrick fox did you not watch first half of the Belgium match? And in the holland and Germany matches he was man marked in games where both teams just defended. Players like Robben had little effect in those games as well.
I think it's safe to say now that Pele , Cruyff, Maradona, are the three best international & World Cup players of all time. Neither Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo I've every put in World Cup performances to match Pele 1970 , Cruyff 1974, Maradona1986.
How can the coach not integrate Dybala into that team, same position argument is nonsense. Have Messi, Dybala and Ageuro up front. Opponent will concentrate on Messi and that will give Dybala the chance to shine.
How do you expect Messi to have a great performance If on the first half there were not even 2 passes per man to Messi On Argentina and some will still say that Messi does not play alone. Cr7 has better team in Portugal, this squad knows what its doing.
2010 - Arg failed, blame the team and the coach. 2014 - Arg rchd Finals, all credits to Messi. 2018 - Arg failing yet again, blame the team and the coach.
They're blaming everyone including European leagues for Messi's disinterest in the national team. So what if you are playing with shit teammates and a shit coach? CR7 does it with all the above obstacles. Football is a simple game, Messi complicates it by not wanting to play, thats it.
What is this clown duff talking about?! messi didn't single handedly take Argentina to the finale in 2014 he didn't even score a single goal since they started quarters. 1-Messi should be blamed cause him being the main focus of the team couldnt even take a shot at goal in the second half and meradona was right,messi doesn't have the character to lead a team. 2-Xavi and iniesta along with most players in Spains golden gen who played for barca along with them at the time made him. 3-This again proves messi is a barca player and will not be able to do half of what he does there in another team like SAF the best manager ever told us long before.smh messi apologists the lot of them.
Spot on with the South American Football standards dropping I remember back when WC could really bring different styles of football you had the European tactical good defence and passing game then you had the African fast paced and physical game then you had the south American fast running full of tricks short passing dribbles and attack but now everything just looks very Rigid and its sad because you dont see that diversity anymore. I think the last WC to have some diversity was 2002 after that there has been a general decline in proper south American talents like Ronaldo Rivaldo Ronaldinho Cafu Roberto Carlos you just dont see those types anymore.
people need to stop with the whole messi single handedly carried them to the 2014 final lol the man only scored in a trash group stage and higuain and di Maria lead them in the knockout stages only thing messi did was make a penalty in the shootout against holland in the semis but thats it
A lot of graceless crowing (no doubt from the usual Ronaldo fanboys) in the comments section here in relation to Messi's performance in this World Cup. You don't go from being the best player in European club football this season, as Messi was, to a worthless busted flush as many are trying to tell us here. Where were these commentators when Barcelona won 0-3 at the Bernabeu last December with Messi running the show and Ronaldo barely featuring? Ronaldo is a great player, no doubt about it, but you don't dismiss a player of Messi's talent and achievement after a tournament where he's played in a team with so many weak links and a manager who has made so many questionable decisions recently.
when are the qualifications going to be sorted out, this should be the top teams in the world, there should be way more European sides, including Ireland and wales!
Without the crack players in Barcelona Messi is just an average forward. Argentina, without Messi in the lineup, using an attack of Aguero and Scocco, would be so much better. Messi is nothing compared to CR7.
This just validates messi is not the greatest of all time he is certainly in the top 5 same as Ronaldo but they are still not number 1 or 2 of all time in football this just confirmed it
Where is your legendary dribble when the team actually needs it, Leo? Aren't you "the greatest dribbler of all time"? So the undisputed GOAT couldn't eve TRY to make something happen in the second half? Maradona was fucking right. Messi doesn't have charisma. He can't pull the team through in hard times. He isn't a leader. Until I see Messi play outside of Barcelona I don't even want to hear conversations of him being the g.o.a.t.. Oh and I am really wondering how much of Messi's "humility" is actual humility, and not just his inability and ineptitude to express himself. Eusébio used to clap and applaud the goalkeeper when they defended his shots. I don't see messi doing anything even remotely similar to that
only way for Argentina to qualify is beat Nigeria.with atleast 4 or 5 goals and hope Iceland loses and Croatia wins.If Iceland wins hope they win atleast with minimum points and loses with Croatia but believe me Argentina needs more goals to escape with goal difference because both Argentina and ice land will have 4 points if this occurs... Argentina now needs to takes shots on goal more becoz the 4 or 5 goals will definitely get them through.
Don't forget: Argentina had the pressure on. They had to win to stay alive. Croatia with 3 points in the sack was calm, and patient. They had the easier job to do and Caballero (with Sampaoli) helped them. Aguero changed with Higuain - bad decision. Yes, Croatia is a better team, yes, Argentina played badly, but they had two clear chances. Perez and Mesa missed them. If they score, now everybody is happy for the win.
Argentina passes the ball too much...you can make 100 passes in a row...but if you dont take a shot at the end of it...then it was all pointless...ticky taka ia dead...today its all about the counter attack
Modric and Rakitic was absolutely brilliant... bad decision by sampoli... why did he leave dybala, di Maria and Higuain.... u have so many attacking option and when he needs to win the game ... purely bad decision from sampoli ... and .... The best player in the world . Bluh bluh bluh .... where were he ???? As a best player u should carry you’re team to the touch line ... where ???? Is he the best player ?? I thought Messi was so negative from the start ... and see , the negativeness ended up in disaster... no discipline , no eager ... just poor ....
Just like Ronaldo is a legend , so is Messi u can't deny that. But this time Messi's attitude was soo off that he was rubbing his head before the game even started . It's not that Messi doesn't have the skill , his attitude really killed him this time
After calming down and bashing Messi, I see that the blame is shared by everyone. The manager, the players--everyone. I still think Messi is overrated but he's not the one who should shoulder all the blame. Higuain, Dybala, Aguero also didn't show up. The goalkeeper couldn't save an easy ball. Messi is good but not a GOAT. So when he doesn't show up like a GOAT, everyone slams him. Frankly, the majority of the blame is with the manager. He should have picked someone like Lamela of Spurs for the midfield. The midfield playing was bad. They lost possession many times. What's needed: Careful play. Keep possession high. Good creation of chances. Clinical sure finishing. What we saw was people doing their own thing. We had the midfielders doing long balls to the strikers who would try and put the ball away from thirty yards away. Messi was dribbling the ball into the forest of defenders with no cover. Defenders were tackling and fouling other players. And goodness knows what the keeper was doing. No coordination.
Bunch of Messi apologists with Damien being the pick of them he did not carry Argentina single handedly he did not score or create any goal in ko stages
In 2014 he single handedly took them to the final?? Wtf. Messi scored one goal in the ko stages. He didn't even deserve the golden ball. How does these guys get hired??
Feel sorry for Messi, this is a really horrible Argentina team. NObody else can do anthing to help out....it's just Messi, eveyone just wait for Messi to do something? How pathetic. Don't forget it's an 11 man sport, you need many players to be able to play not just one.
sampaoli has no clue how to set up a team. he's trying to get messi in behind Croatia midfield centrally with ball to feet, but put midfield two of mascherano who mostly seen so further back alongside otamendi, and leave enzo Perez alone against modric, rakitic and brozovic, resorted to send the ball down the wings because Croatia just medium compact block centrally and the space are down the sides, they block every passing lanes to messi and broke through rebic on the left on every counter attack since they know salvio isn't a defender and mercado is rubbish
GJB Sarmeri you have to be dumb to deny reality. Can Messi the midget score goals with his head like Ronaldo in Portugal 1 Morocco 0? Hell no. Ronaldo is taller, stronger, faster, a more complete athlete in every way. Keep denying reality, just makes you a dumb fanboy lol.
SportsLife365 lmao, imagine being called the best ever, and not even touching the ball all fucking game?? Lmao. If you think Messi is better than Modric, I feel sorry for you
Argentina have banega who can cause damage to any team.. these pundits should stop saying the coach doesn't have the players.. why would you start a 35 yr mascherano when you have banega hu has been brilliant thru out the season.. u have dybala dimaria banega and you start with players like #acuna #pavon meza.. the coach is a complete mess and needs to be damn axed
ronaldo is the mentally strongest player in the history of this sport but of course never so effectiv like messi messi is the best footballer this sport ever had with his skills and understanding of the game but is mentally not so strong as you think.. ronaldo finds always a way to score but messi struggles against that kind of opponent.. ronaldo is just a monster of the football he is clever he is nasty he even plays dirty just to win the fucking game... he affects his team to push push push .. AND THE BIG THING IS.. HEEEE LIKES THE PRESSURE THE REALL WORLD CLASS FOOTBALLERS THEY ARE SPOT ON IF IT REALLY DEPENDS
Dave Fincher Your point was not justified... “you said Mess, is the best football player ever wit his skills & understanding of the game” now tell me, how do u understand a game without winning a it or even scoring a goad in 180min....
ITS ABOUT GIVING A SOLUTION TO THE TEAM.. MESSI CANT EVEN GIVE A ASSIST.. BEST EXAMPLE REAL MADRID JUVENTUS THE FINAL PENALTY GOAL FROM RONALDO WAS CREATED OF HIMSELF HE JUST JUMPED TO GIVE ASSIST TO VAZQUEZ THAT JUST ENOUGH TO PROVE. ITS ABOUT MAKING AN SPECIAL EFFORT TO GIVE THE CHANCE TO THE TEAM.. ITS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT TO SCORE
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Messi girls are all Blind and Stubborn. Face The Facts and move on!!!
What a disgace world cup with VAR so far what a disgrace ref first freekick to Yussuf Poulsen on the midde of the field that the ref didnt give, then australia is handed a cheap penalty. then Yussuf Poulsen should have a freekick around the pen area with the advantage rule in effect by the ref where sisto shoots hit a defender and the ref gives a goalkick to australia then Andreas Cornelius is pulled down on his shirt in the penalty area and notting what a disgrace by the ref and VAR
Argentina needs midfielders there is talent everywhere watching this video but noone reaches out to them football is just old men complaining round a table use your youth and maybe you won't lose
Argentina are all counting on their attack they expect their attack to carry them but no Argentina's defence is shit Caballero is bs at least if they had Romero they might of conceded less but nah not good enough
I apologize to the rest of the world for what they saw today, there is no more that this is a project that did not prosper as this guy said. A multimillion-dollar project, where what worked best was the deployment and the claw that the local players contributed. And I ask Sampaoli, finally, to stop taking pressure from the best player in the world, who does not perform in the world championships and is objective when forming opinions about the game. The World Cup gives you a rematch every four years ...
Absolute nonsence messi didn't score a single goal the knock stage of 2014 world cup and only one assist while they conceded only one goal ,yet he single took them the final .foolishness
That´s the problem. Argentina played badly or Croatia did great? The way you put it or does it depend on the opponent you play. Put your prejudice aside and state this nation at the level it deserves among the countries like Portugal and Uruguay, below the great nations. Once a Marca journalist stated a first page title: THE KILLER OF GREAT NATIONS. That´s true. Only 2 nation remain to be taken down, Portugal and France. Rethink and reconsider.
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You are all wrong. Croats have the best generation of players and they will be surprise of World Cup 2018!
You are right.I am Portuguese and a fan of Modric, but you should count with Portugal too.
Enver Raković we willhopefully see portugal for a revanche soon 👍🏼👍🏼
I cannot believe people keep underrating Croatia throughout their history. They reached a WC semi once in 1998, and not to mention they have always produced lots of great/world-class players, whether it is from the generation of Boban, Suker, Prosinecki and the Kovac brothers and eventually Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic, Perisic and Mandzukic. They should always be feared IMO!
You gave us luck🤜🤛
Well you called that one right mate
Humiliation. Great game by Croatia, they humiliated overrated players like Aguero and sadly, Messi. Too much hype over him, almost nothing from big games in recent couple of years.
Croatia should get more credit for this victory IMO. Everytime they were on the ball (especially on the second half), they looked dangerous as if they could score any minute, and they took their chances to eventually snatch the win.
Also, to me it is about time people stop underrating Croatia in tournaments and treating them as mere dark horses only. They reached a WC semi once in 1998, and not to mention they have always produced lots of good players, whether it is Boban, Suker, Prosinecki, Simic, Srna and the Kovac brothers to eventually Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic, Perisic and Mandzukic. If anything they should always be feared IMO!
Timliu92 I am messi big fan ! but croatia was way superior. It is very easy to say that they boast at least top 3 best midfield in the WC. Rakitic from Barca Modric and kovacic from RM brozovic and perisic from Inter. they also have lovren vrjalsko corluka and mandzukic .... LoL argentina ? the moment i saw the line up i had heart attack .... acuna meza perez ...no 2 and no 3 wb playing CB. they were debutants ! no 2 is 30 and insignificant in term of ability no 3 plays for ajax ...hm .... why not fielded dybala di maria banega biglia fazio and rojo ? well one messi and 80% of the team were composed of washed up ?
Hadi Winata Betul banget bro. Gw masih bingung kenapa Sampaoli kagak start pakai Dybala, Di Maria atau Fazio yang lebih matang dan jauh lebih berpengalaman menghadapi tim-tim yang mumpuni di Eropa. Belum-belum pemain-pemain kayak Pastore atau Icardi kagak dipanggil, jadi lini depannya meski banyak bintang kurang ada greget atau penetrasinya. Secara taktik tadi malam Argentina juga benar-benar berantakan banget, terutama lini tengahnya yang hancur-hancuran dan jadi santapan pemain-pemain tengah mumpuni kayak Modric, Rakitic dan Kovacic. Haduh2...
Timliu92 Emang ... itu kroasia pny midfield kalau bkn no 1 at least top 3 lo gila rakitic modric perisic brozovic ... bahkan mereka ga bth striker menurut gue. rebic itu kayak figo ya hahahahaha .... lu liat ga ampe messi aja malas maen ...apaan meza dipertahankan aguero out maennya wide tapi ga ada skills and speed. pemain debutan man dimaenin ... pastore lamela kranevitter gue yakin >>>> 100 >> perez acuna dkk
Timliu92 icardi bermasalah karena istrinya lol ex maxi lopex bro
i'm a Croatia fan but also a Messi fan. Not enough credit to both.i'm going to puke if i hear any more cr7 propaganda. Technically Argentina could still qualify for playoff....hope it happens.
Croatia was better team. Simple as that. Very strong, disciplined and with a game plan. Argentina is just a group of good players. But where was Messi? Best player in the world?
prijesvegaslavonac jebo messija koga briga
Where's your dad bitch?
The midfield was terrible! Macherano was walking around, all round team was not good enough.
John Wigmore so? Ronaldo used to have Raul Meireles Miguel Veloso and Carlos Martins in midfield. Who are they? We only know Meireles and even so... Yet no one complained because at the time Messi was doing fine with his teams now that he isn't everyone sees how Ronaldo suffered
prijesvegaslavonac too much passing...argentina has no attack...messi shows no emotion when playing
Otamendi was lucky too for staying on the pitch after his reaction on Rakitic...and Argentina coach entered about 10 times on the pitch.
They don't know who Rebić is, the guy single handled Bayern in German cup final and he had very good season in Frankfurt under Niko Kovač who is now coach of Bayern , if that isn't good enough invitation to take closer look at player I don't know what should be. You know football is been playing outside The Kingdom also. And then you have Lovren in Liverpool ( CL finalist), Brozović and Perišić in Inter (ok Inter isn't top 5 clubs of Europe anymore but still it's Inter), Vrsaljko in AM you don't play for Diego Simeone if you are not for real (maybe after this game he's gonna have some rough time in AM), Kramarić in Hoffeenheim they advanced in CL I think for first time and he's theire top 2 players and Subašić is top 2-3 goalkeeper in France leauge for last 5 years he won golden glow of France leauge two seasons ago I think, Strinić just sign for AC Milan (ok AC Milan isn't the AC Milan that we know from past but it's better than playing in China), Badelj in Fiorentina and Kovačić in RM and they are coming from bench. Yeah they looking prrety impresive to me evan without Modrić, Rakitić and Mandžukić. All they need is good coach. Get some info it's not hard these days.
Ima li hrvata??? 😃
Planet Smart ima brate!
Bit ce messi (argentina) ku*ac sampion, ku*ac sampion....
Planet Smart I'ma I'ma!!!!
Ima,ima🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷
Normalno ..Luka M ili R7 OVE GODINE ZA NAJ IGRAĆA..Ovisi tko dođe ovdje dalje..
Everyone feels for messi , but no one when cr7 is in hard moment.....The pundits are so biased.....Pathetic.....
BC everyone expects messi to win WC since the last 8 years. so the stupid pundits have a legitimate reason to call someone the goat. like their life depends on it.
Soumitra Ghosh because messi is a great player and not a tapin merchant
William Woha lol the taping merchant just scored 4 goals with one of the weakest squads in worldcup 2018,while messi the goat couldn't do shit with world class players around him.smh
All these damn old geezers and Messi apologist.. “ohh I feel sorry for the little lad” if this was Ronaldo playing like that and looking not interested y’all would crucify him.
Wyre Dem couldn't agree more
Absolutelly! Those are a Bunch of cynicals and hipocrits.Pharisees!
Wyre Dem who cares about these washed up clowns think irrelevant people with irrelevant views.
CR7 Goat!!!
Neil Buzz Hadfield hmm let me guess the grammar police weird profile pic, I’m 100% sure you’re gay . Yea I’m American with Jamaican origin, we stone your kind to death In islands.
Damian Duff "Messi dragged Argentina to the 2014 Final single handedly".....is Duff high? He scored 4 group stage goals against Bosnia, Nigeria & Iran. 1 assist against Switzerland in the round of 16 and then not a single goal or assist after that point.....Come on Duff. It was Argentina's defense that got them to that final. Messi got them out of a very weak group if we are going to be honest.
D C78 finally some honesty thankyou.I don't know why they find it hard to be truthful and spread these misleading lies imagine if someone watched this without knowing facts or just started watching football.smh these old wankers would Suck messi's dick if they could I tell ya!!
D C78
It was the same after the copa America losses. He was the worst player in the final
D C78 Absolutely true. Duff completely pulled that out of his ass.. . Messi dragged no Argentina team to the final in 2014
Ronaldo didn’t drag Portugal to win the euro, he didn’t even play in the final. Also they didn’t win a single game in 90 minutes so Ronaldo didn’t win games with goals.
Without him they would have been eliminated. He scored the decisive goal vs Wales as well. He played a bigger hand than Messi did, and ultimately... was more decisive. Nobodys saying he did everything single handedly in the Euros, thatd be silly.
I really love how the press defends Messi... not saying he is to blame tough
Catarina Amado if Argentina would win, they would say Messi won, when they lose then he's got no help , what a joke, assholes all of them. Argentina are a bunch of sore losers, they thought they would win for sure, look at how many dirty fouls they committed, a joke, but of course it was Croatia who was carded, and whistled for fouls constant
Well Messi can't play alone and win this thing.... So he can't be blamed. The whole team can be blamed ...in the end it is a team sport.
Well he didn't play that good tonight that is for sure. But still the media should look at Argentina as a whole not just Messi.
I didn't watch Ronaldos games ( sorry, but I don't like him that much.... but he is still a great player )...so I can't really say how well they are doing. Perhaps he is better.
I am just happy that my country kicked Argentinas ass :)
the media and the messi fanboys are just toxic ... if Argentina wins a trophy its all about messi , but if the lose its all about their squad and manager . but not about messi
Fin Fan It's a team sport irrespective.
Modric shows Messi how to be a captain.
Messi-more than 700 goals
Modric- about 200 I think
Messi- 6 ballon d’ors
Modric-1
Messi- 3 trophies with 🇦🇷
Modric- 0 with 🇭🇷
Messi is still by far better, one match prove Modric outplaying Messi for a while but as time flies, performance changes and Argentina proved it by defeating Croatia 3-0
@@davidvilla1247 *doesn't
@@davidvilla1247 ur iq is in minus
@@davidvilla1247 of course messi is better player, Messi is one of the best players in history of football. But you put national teams statistics. Why? Argentina play in South America, Croatia in Europe. Obviously the continental tournaments are not same so there is no point to compare. World cup, OK argentina won twice but Messi won 0/2 of these 2. So ok croatia was once second, once thrid but croatia exist only scince 1995. Argentina independence was much earlyer. So ok, Messi is better.
@@davidvilla1247 Dude, did u just manage to compare 2 different positions/players? And u also managed to compare euro national squad/clubs to SA squads? Lol, ye sure, if Modric still played that messi's role like in the long past he would have like 1000 goals, and if much more harder and competitive EC is played every 2 yrs like Copa - he would have massive statistics. Statistics is like a bikini dude, they don't releval all the shit on the pitch. I mean Modric outclassed him and entire ARG team - and whats even more important - Messi just walked away after the match without doing a post-match handshake. One match doesn't prove anything? Really? Recently, ARG goalie in Qatar got golden glove because of ONE match, final. His statistics are so poor comparing to CRO goalie Livakovic who was by far better both on the pitch and in the stats throughout the WC. This is the WC - every match is very important. Every!
Liam had it right. Croatia deserves respect. Rebic Modric and Rakatic were the ones to blame, not Messi. Argentina needs more work to gel as a team. Croatia is a great team.
put Modrić and Rakitić in any team with a good striker and you got one of the strongest attack in the world...if not the strongest...
I think that all the adulation of Messi, both by his fanboys and also 90% of the media, is one of the main factors in augmenting all of the pressure on Messi. He is almost universally acclaimed, by the media, as the GOAT. Well, that means he has to live up to that in every game he plays, and much more during key tournaments. He doesn't have to fail (and he is still scoring, and playing, exceptionally during the regular season), but when Ronaldo does brilliantly (as he always does during Champions' League, and now during the two most recent international tournaments), it needlessly multiplies the pressure on Messi. Of course, Messi tries to bring his team up, but when he can't do it, and Ronaldo does lead his team, it further drives Messi down. I would not be surprised if Messi retires from international play after this tournament. He does not need the abuse. Ronaldo is not generally recognized as the GOAT, so he does not have anywhere near the same pressure. Ronaldo uses the adulation of Messi to his own advantage, and always tries to be better.
Furthermore, as both Ronaldo and Messi have aged, their physical attributes have changed. Messi was never fast, but he was always very quick, especially in the penalty area. Well, he has lost some quickness, and cannot always get by players as easily as he did a half dozen years ago. Ronaldo can still sprint the length of the field (as he did a few times during the Spain match), but he only does it a few times a game. Ronaldo has retrained his physique to excel in the penalty area, and he is today without peer in the penalty box in the whole world.
They are both brilliant players, and we should consider ourselves fortunate to see two supreme superstars at the same time. They are both setting records that will probably never be broken. But, whereas Ronaldo is actually motivated by pressure, and even criticism, it is obvious that Messi is actually devastated.
thanks for the uploads great to archive this stuff.@
Supreme Architect
keep up the good work
you did it again, thnx mate, hope ill watch your post-match analysis for Croatia through the end of the tournament ;-)
More excuses for Messi. Surprise..
Not the greatest if you can’t win with a team full of world class players. CR7, a one many army. Definition of GOAT.
Wish you people would stop exaggerating. He's the best player playing now. Just leave it at that. Personally I could easily think of at least 20 retired players I would have taken ahead of both Messi and Ronaldo, although Ronaldo is definitely moving up the list slowly. Messi is not. If anything he is moving down.
Us people that havent seen people play 20+ years ago will just look at videos of times back then when defending was somewhat poor and less organized compared to now and brush it off. Whether we are right or wrong about how great the greats of previous generations really were, there is no amount of evidence that will convince us as a group that what we know as the best arent the best ever.
A sad truth about history in general.
Robert Bertus
Defending used to be much better. Defending is worse now than it ever has been in the history of the sport. And attacking players are pandered to and "protected" more than ever too.
I mean that definitely isnt true if you look at the average number of goals per game since 1950. I highly doubt human physique has changed much in the past few years, if anything we have become stronger looking at olympic records, although I credit that to training methods. So if our strikers are stronger than before, and, as you stated, attacking players are pandered to... then the amount of goals every game should be sky rocketing to an average of 7+. It obviously isnt, and the only conclusion I can make out is that defensive tactics are far superior now.
@Robert Bertus
Well, then you people are morons who see what you want to see. Defenders also got away with a lot more, which is the other side of the coin that you intentionally refuse to see, just so you can have your moronic hero worship sessions about present day mediocrities. Defenses could do things in the 70s and 80s that they can't even consider doing now, such as constant shirt holding. Zico, Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Laudrup, Ronaldo etc etc. The list of players that were better than these two buffoons, and who played with defenders hanging onto their shirts for 90 minutes, is endless. Well it isn't endless, but if you can invent nonsensical things to have as your opinions then so can I!
And things like the backpass was still legal, which led to scoring being much, much lower back then than it is now. There was no added time, so teams wasted time more than now. Lots and lots of massive changes have been made to the sport specifically to increase the amount of goals. This is not because Messi and Ronaldo are the greatest players ever. They are benefiting from the changes, that is all. I seriously doubt whether Messi could have survived even a single football game in 1982 without crying for mommy or quitting. Ronaldo might have, but he wouldn't have been scoring many goals. No one did, except truly exceptional players.
Plus, you're making all the non-morons hate the players you pretend to like so much with your wild exaggerations that are based exclusively on ignorance about the past and about the sport they are playing. Because of you I now have the opinion that the Underwear Model and the Chinless Wonder are mediocre players. And no amount of evidence will convince me that what I know to be true isn't so.
There, now we're two morons. I blame you for always exaggerating like this though. You made me a moron.
Media is something like this : Messi missed the penalty but Argentina didn't lose because of him , its because of their manager and the other players
Also Media : Messi scored the penalty Argentina won because of Messi 1 man team won the game !
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Like I’ve been saying for years Messi is system player. Without tiki taka, he’s not the same player.
Miguel Borges Messi carried them to the WC final in 2014😂😂 you can't expect Messi to perform with that shit team, he has no support from midfield or attack
AwQ
Gerry Adams I think we see with the amount of likes you have...0... Miguel Borges had a better argument. Messi is not a winner like Ronaldo is. Period. He lost 3 finals in a row with Argentina. That's pathetic.
Gerry Adams Messi scored 4 goals in Group stage wc2014... then disappeared during KO, Semifinal, Final... only one player scored after group stage was Higuain for Argentina. LOL
A 'system player'. Lol, gtfooh.
Messi needed help in midfield! No one helped him as Barca does!
Croatian was super in midfield & super in defense!
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You forgot to say Modríc is Real Madrid player as you mentioned for Rakitíc. Messi is a local player that's why CR7 is the best player in the world.
Its Safe to say Iniesta made Messi Relevant.
Moe Maestro Iniesta is and was always better than Messi. It's just people only give credit to goals , it's a joke
Moe Maestro no most of the Spanish players from their golden generation made messi relevant lol
Moe Maestro iniesta and xavi to be precise
Lord Grim barca developed messi not iniesta and xavi and messi is the most talented player in the world
Moe Maestro *It's *Safe
We can comment/blame on individual/team performance till the cows come home. End of the day there will be only two teams and one of them the winner. This is the road that leads to the final two teams. Let's sit back and enjoy this great sport and finally congratulate the winner of the WC.
It's a bit unfair to say Messi dragged Argentina to the last final, Mascherano was easily as important to that team, its just a shame that age has caught up with him.
Mascherano is 34, Ronaldo is 33. Thats not an excuse, Mascherano is simply a mediocre player who never did anything more than put in hard work. Kind of like Gattuso for Italy. But now he's too unmotivated and straight up lazy and should not be on this team at all.
Different people react differently. Mascherano looks physically exhausted.
Jaysus Robert, you really don't like "Monster Masch" at all do you, and what have Ronaldo and Gattuso got to do with anything?
One doesn't play over 300 games for peak era Barcelona if one is mediocre, especially as a 5'9" centre-half. If his skill set was merely that he worked hard then surely we'd see a lot more of his ilk gracing the best teams in the world.
I will agree that he shouldn't be in the team but you sound like an arse when you state he's lazy and unmotivated, how the fuck would someone like you know?
He is an entertainer, and as such, he is meant to be judged by the fans. No fans means no football, and if we do not judge him then who will?
I brought up Ronaldo because of the similarities in age, and I brought up Gattuso because of the similarities in midfielder playstyle. I always bring analogies to an argument in an effort to emphasize the lack of logical discrepancy.
It’s unfair saying Ronaldo won Portugal the euro, when he scored a couple of goals and a bit of cheerleading
Ah, another bunch of Messi apologists.
JeanLucPicard exactly messi's shit without barca these cunts can't swallow the truth.
but they always suck the real cunts.
true;
JeanLucPicard explain how they're wrong bitch?
Lord Grim I think football experts know more than dickriders
Messi best player? Lol and he cant carry his team to a win. Ronaldo does it, how is it Messi cant do it. Simple answer is he's only good with Barca.
Bow down to king Ronaldo.
Criticizing Messi, especially after this performance, is fair. Sucking Ronaldo's cock all the time is getting annoying though. 1 goal in World Cups before this one. Dive penalty, dive free kick and goalkeeper mistake and then a header and now he's the best ever. It's all so stupid.
Mojebi
Bow down you fool bow down before your king. King Ronaldo
Arxienne Romanova yeah Ronaldo really carried his team when they came third in the group in Euro 2012 and in the final while he was injured on the bench, and in the 2010 and 2014 world cups
"Messi is a barcelona player" - Sir Alex
Fact - Messi is average outside of Barca's system. Great players can adapt and play with anybody, with any team and do well. There's a damn good reason Messi will never leave his comfort zone at Barca...
great vids man, but you have to find a way to overcome the tv rights thing. Maybe try something like FOOTY MOTD3 is doing?
Messi didn't do shit single handedly in 2014 cause he didn't even score from last 8 to final
Thabang Mesilemoth yet he was still in the final and won golden ball, while Ronaldo went out in the groups and scored only one goal in the last game of the group, Dumbass
him getting golden ball was a complete marketing strategy lol everyone knew James should've won that he only won it cuz they went to the final
Martin Rosario true wc golden ball is more of a consolation prize on some occasions ex: Brazilian Ronaldo didnt win it in 2002 despite netting home twice in final vs germany and a record 8 in total
Ronaldo got 1 goal last WC lol, no one mentioning that. He's got nothing on Messi in overall attributes as a football, he's nowhere near Messi . Balon bore meanings nothing
Perceptive JEC Ronaldo was injury all the time at that tournament.
Are you really comparing a below average team of portugal with a powerhouse like argentina.
I'm tired of telling Messi fans facts just so they can see it all in the games and still be intellectually dishonest about what they're witnessing. Elimination from the group stage will be a complete legacy killer.
Like Portugal went out at the group stage last time and Messi went to the final
MrJonnyl123
Not a Ronaldo fan but what Ronaldo did at the Euros makes your criticism irrelevant. Don't forget Messi missed a penalty at the Cope America to win the tournament. He is a legend but greatest of all time he is not.
Sabelo Masemola and people forget Ronaldo played injured in 2014 and his country was in the group of death messi only has Croatia lol
Sabelo Masemola what did ronaldo do in the euro lol?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
William Woha i dont know 3 goals assists. Remember 2 goals against hungary? Remember goals vs wales at semi. Remember tying platini as top scorer in euro all time? U messi fanboys are the one having a parade when he has a pre assist and all these things ronaldo did at euro is nothing? Plz come out of messi's asshole ASAP. The guy is a legend but when its clear as daylight that he had a shit game come and say it
messi dsnt deliver ..simple as that
Argentina didn't need Luka modric, they needed a player like Ronaldo to score goals for them.
If they have Modrić, they will be like Real, few WC , also in a row, and also Chile would never gone to a penalty stage in those two finals. If they have a Rakitić, as well, unbeatable, really. ;)
Argentina has no midfield.
Messi is twice the player Ronaldo is LMFAO where have you been for the last 10 years ??
Last world cup Portugal went out in groups and Ronaldo only scored one goal in the last group game which was meaningless. Messi got the golden ball and got Argentina to the WC final last WC in Brazil. Idiot, short memories
Firstly CR7 actually fucking scored....Portugals group was harder than Messi's.....Also Messi didn't deserve golden ball he had less goals and assists than other players...Just bias from FIFA is why he won...Being the best dribbler in the world does NOT make you the best player in the world.....Maybe messi>cr7, but he is 110% NOT the G.O.A.T
What Argentina and Messi would give to have Riquelme,Veron,Aimar and Redondo playing now majestic players
messi took argentina to wc 2014 final? he didn't score a goal in the knockout stages and lost the final!!!
Vikram Thakur I just laughed at that narrative....he was nowhere to find in knockout games... Except vs Switzerland he was good.....
patrick fox did you not watch first half of the Belgium match? And in the holland and Germany matches he was man marked in games where both teams just defended. Players like Robben had little effect in those games as well.
Same Modric didn’t score in the knockouts and lost the final 😅
I think it's safe to say now that Pele , Cruyff, Maradona, are the three best international & World Cup players of all time. Neither Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo I've every put in World Cup performances to match Pele 1970 , Cruyff 1974, Maradona1986.
What is that intro music?
How can the coach not integrate Dybala into that team, same position argument is nonsense. Have Messi, Dybala and Ageuro up front. Opponent will concentrate on Messi and that will give Dybala the chance to shine.
How do you expect Messi to have a great performance If on the first half there were not even 2 passes per man to Messi On Argentina and some will still say that Messi does not play alone. Cr7 has better team in Portugal, this squad knows what its doing.
CRO❤💙
2010 - Arg failed, blame the team and the coach.
2014 - Arg rchd Finals, all credits to Messi.
2018 - Arg failing yet again, blame the team and the coach.
They're blaming everyone including European leagues for Messi's disinterest in the national team. So what if you are playing with shit teammates and a shit coach? CR7 does it with all the above obstacles. Football is a simple game, Messi complicates it by not wanting to play, thats it.
What is this clown duff talking about?! messi didn't single handedly take Argentina to the finale in 2014 he didn't even score a single goal since they started quarters.
1-Messi should be blamed cause him being the main focus of the team couldnt even take a shot at goal in the second half and meradona was right,messi doesn't have the character to lead a team.
2-Xavi and iniesta along with most players in Spains golden gen who played for barca along with them at the time made him.
3-This again proves messi is a barca player and will not be able to do half of what he does there in another team like SAF the best manager ever told us long before.smh messi apologists the lot of them.
Spot on with the South American Football standards dropping I remember back when WC could really bring different styles of football you had the European tactical good defence and passing game then you had the African fast paced and physical game then you had the south American fast running full of tricks short passing dribbles and attack but now everything just looks very Rigid and its sad because you dont see that diversity anymore. I think the last WC to have some diversity was 2002 after that there has been a general decline in proper south American talents like Ronaldo Rivaldo Ronaldinho Cafu Roberto Carlos you just dont see those types anymore.
Arg had Banega and Fazio on bench. Banega is very good mid. Fazio had a great season in Rome.
MESSI should've done the LeBron and put a cast on his right foot. Say it broke after game 1 and he has no help.
Go and watch when both of the players are on the same pitch. Messi always haunts Real Madrid and Ronaldo.
people need to stop with the whole messi single handedly carried them to the 2014 final lol the man only scored in a trash group stage and higuain and di Maria lead them in the knockout stages only thing messi did was make a penalty in the shootout against holland in the semis but thats it
A lot of graceless crowing (no doubt from the usual Ronaldo fanboys) in the comments section here in relation to Messi's performance in this World Cup. You don't go from being the best player in European club football this season, as Messi was, to a worthless busted flush as many are trying to tell us here.
Where were these commentators when Barcelona won 0-3 at the Bernabeu last December with Messi running the show and Ronaldo barely featuring? Ronaldo is a great player, no doubt about it, but you don't dismiss a player of Messi's talent and achievement after a tournament where he's played in a team with so many weak links and a manager who has made so many questionable decisions recently.
when are the qualifications going to be sorted out, this should be the top teams in the world, there should be way more European sides, including Ireland and wales!
is this irish TV ?
Without the crack players in Barcelona Messi is just an average forward. Argentina, without Messi in the lineup, using an attack of Aguero and Scocco, would be so much better. Messi is nothing compared to CR7.
completely agree. I see Ronaldo carrying his country multiple times. Haven't seen that from Messi.
massive respect to the pundits... specially the dude on the left
This just validates messi is not the greatest of all time he is certainly in the top 5 same as Ronaldo but they are still not number 1 or 2 of all time in football this just confirmed it
Where is your legendary dribble when the team actually needs it, Leo? Aren't you "the greatest dribbler of all time"? So the undisputed GOAT couldn't eve TRY to make something happen in the second half? Maradona was fucking right. Messi doesn't have charisma. He can't pull the team through in hard times. He isn't a leader. Until I see Messi play outside of Barcelona I don't even want to hear conversations of him being the g.o.a.t..
Oh and I am really wondering how much of Messi's "humility" is actual humility, and not just his inability and ineptitude to express himself. Eusébio used to clap and applaud the goalkeeper when they defended his shots. I don't see messi doing anything even remotely similar to that
only way for Argentina to qualify is beat Nigeria.with atleast 4 or 5 goals and hope Iceland loses and Croatia wins.If Iceland wins hope they win atleast with minimum points and loses with Croatia but believe me Argentina needs more goals to escape with goal difference because both Argentina and ice land will have 4 points if this occurs... Argentina now needs to takes shots on goal more becoz the 4 or 5 goals will definitely get them through.
Even a half-fit Fernando Gago would have made a difference.
Dunphy plus chippy = magik
Don't forget: Argentina had the pressure on. They had to win to stay alive. Croatia with 3 points in the sack was calm, and patient. They had the easier job to do and Caballero (with Sampaoli) helped them. Aguero changed with Higuain - bad decision. Yes, Croatia is a better team, yes, Argentina played badly, but they had two clear chances. Perez and Mesa missed them. If they score, now everybody is happy for the win.
Serves them right for not taking Icardi and changing things way too much. Poor poor management
Fazio, Banega, Dybala, Di Maria and Icardi who isnt in the squad should all start.
2014.....Messi did not took arg to final alone....There was di maria also....
Argentina passes the ball too much...you can make 100 passes in a row...but if you dont take a shot at the end of it...then it was all pointless...ticky taka ia dead...today its all about the counter attack
Modric and Rakitic was absolutely brilliant... bad decision by sampoli... why did he leave dybala, di Maria and Higuain.... u have so many attacking option and when he needs to win the game ... purely bad decision from sampoli ... and .... The best player in the world . Bluh bluh bluh .... where were he ???? As a best player u should carry you’re team to the touch line ... where ???? Is he the best player ?? I thought Messi was so negative from the start ... and see , the negativeness ended up in disaster... no discipline , no eager ... just poor ....
Just like Ronaldo is a legend , so is Messi u can't deny that. But this time Messi's attitude was soo off that he was rubbing his head before the game even started . It's not that Messi doesn't have the skill , his attitude really killed him this time
Ronaldi is better than Messo.
Robert Jameson Messi wife said the same
After calming down and bashing Messi, I see that the blame is shared by everyone. The manager, the players--everyone. I still think Messi is overrated but he's not the one who should shoulder all the blame. Higuain, Dybala, Aguero also didn't show up. The goalkeeper couldn't save an easy ball. Messi is good but not a GOAT. So when he doesn't show up like a GOAT, everyone slams him. Frankly, the majority of the blame is with the manager. He should have picked someone like Lamela of Spurs for the midfield. The midfield playing was bad. They lost possession many times.
What's needed: Careful play. Keep possession high. Good creation of chances. Clinical sure finishing.
What we saw was people doing their own thing. We had the midfielders doing long balls to the strikers who would try and put the ball away from thirty yards away. Messi was dribbling the ball into the forest of defenders with no cover. Defenders were tackling and fouling other players. And goodness knows what the keeper was doing. No coordination.
damien duff - legend
Bunch of Messi apologists with Damien being the pick of them he did not carry Argentina single handedly he did not score or create any goal in ko stages
👍💪croatien 🤩
they talk about how Argentina lost,not how Croatia won..
In 2014 he single handedly took them to the final?? Wtf. Messi scored one goal in the ko stages. He didn't even deserve the golden ball. How does these guys get hired??
The red flag was already there against Spain when they lost 6:1
Feel sorry for Messi, this is a really horrible Argentina team. NObody else can do anthing to help out....it's just Messi, eveyone just wait for Messi to do something? How pathetic. Don't forget it's an 11 man sport, you need many players to be able to play not just one.
Why these so called pundits are poor messi fan....
sampaoli has no clue how to set up a team. he's trying to get messi in behind Croatia midfield centrally with ball to feet, but put midfield two of mascherano who mostly seen so further back alongside otamendi, and leave enzo Perez alone against modric, rakitic and brozovic, resorted to send the ball down the wings because Croatia just medium compact block centrally and the space are down the sides, they block every passing lanes to messi and broke through rebic on the left on every counter attack since they know salvio isn't a defender and mercado is rubbish
sometimes we exaggerate messi bad days to cr7,at the end of the day he is human being .so move on.
Messi has not the qualities of a Lothar Mattheus. He is not a leader. He needs protection
But.. But.. Messi is the greatest of all time! LOL!
messi was a mess without barça
He is still the greatest
GJB Sarmeri you have to be dumb to deny reality. Can Messi the midget score goals with his head like Ronaldo in Portugal 1 Morocco 0? Hell no. Ronaldo is taller, stronger, faster, a more complete athlete in every way. Keep denying reality, just makes you a dumb fanboy lol.
SportsLife365 lmao, imagine being called the best ever, and not even touching the ball all fucking game?? Lmao. If you think Messi is better than Modric, I feel sorry for you
he is overpaid sack of shit
Argentina have banega who can cause damage to any team.. these pundits should stop saying the coach doesn't have the players.. why would you start a 35 yr mascherano when you have banega hu has been brilliant thru out the season.. u have dybala dimaria banega and you start with players like #acuna #pavon meza.. the coach is a complete mess and needs to be damn axed
Messi can't handle pressure, Ronaldo got the nerves of steel, Difference
ronaldo is the mentally strongest player in the history of this sport but of course never so effectiv like messi
messi is the best footballer this sport ever had with his skills and understanding of the game but is mentally not so strong as you think..
ronaldo finds always a way to score but messi struggles against that kind of opponent.. ronaldo is just a monster of the football he is clever he is nasty he even plays dirty just to win the fucking game... he affects his team to push push push .. AND THE BIG THING IS.. HEEEE LIKES THE PRESSURE THE REALL WORLD CLASS FOOTBALLERS THEY ARE SPOT ON IF IT REALLY DEPENDS
Dave Fincher
Your point was not justified... “you said Mess, is the best football player ever wit his skills & understanding of the game” now tell me, how do u understand a game without winning a it or even scoring a goad in 180min....
Dave Fincher, you best summed up Messi/Ronaldo debate over the last 10 years. Hats off to you. I totally agree with you
thanks mate thats the true i think the only one reason
ITS ABOUT GIVING A SOLUTION TO THE TEAM.. MESSI CANT EVEN GIVE A ASSIST.. BEST EXAMPLE
REAL MADRID JUVENTUS THE FINAL PENALTY GOAL FROM RONALDO WAS CREATED OF HIMSELF HE JUST JUMPED TO GIVE ASSIST TO VAZQUEZ THAT JUST ENOUGH TO PROVE. ITS ABOUT MAKING AN SPECIAL EFFORT TO GIVE THE CHANCE TO THE TEAM.. ITS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT TO SCORE
Messi girls are all Blind and Stubborn. Face The Facts and move on!!!
Missi missed again and messed up
What a disgace world cup with VAR so far
what a disgrace ref first freekick to Yussuf Poulsen on the midde of the field that the ref didnt give, then australia is handed a cheap penalty.
then Yussuf Poulsen should have a freekick around the pen area with the advantage rule in effect by the ref where sisto shoots hit a defender and the ref gives a goalkick to australia
then Andreas Cornelius is pulled down on his shirt in the penalty area and notting
what a disgrace by the ref and VAR
Lionel Messi.....the 1 club wonder
Talk about Argentina...
Argentina needs midfielders there is talent everywhere watching this video but noone reaches out to them football is just old men complaining round a table use your youth and maybe you won't lose
WHERE IS Icardi..??
Where is Dybala..??
Where is Banega..??
Someone is only for an underground billiard hall...
Modrić OMG
Argentina are all counting on their attack they expect their attack to carry them but no Argentina's defence is shit Caballero is bs at least if they had Romero they might of conceded less but nah not good enough
Stop talking about Barcelona this is about argentina but let messi take up the stand as a one man soldier as cristiano doing for Portugal
I apologize to the rest of the world for what they saw today, there is no more that this is a project that did not prosper as this guy said. A multimillion-dollar project, where what worked best was the deployment and the claw that the local players contributed. And I ask Sampaoli, finally, to stop taking pressure from the best player in the world, who does not perform in the world championships and is objective when forming opinions about the game. The World Cup gives you a rematch every four years ...
Ronaldo had dreadful tournament in 2014 and Messi is having a dreadful tournament and what top player will flop in 2022 we see
Absolute nonsence messi didn't score a single goal the knock stage of 2014 world cup and only one assist while they conceded only one goal ,yet he single took them the final .foolishness
Aguero never shows up in these big games. Leaving Icardi home stupid.
That´s the problem. Argentina played badly or Croatia did great? The way you put it or does it depend on the opponent you play. Put your prejudice aside and state this nation at the level it deserves among the countries like Portugal and Uruguay, below the great nations. Once a Marca journalist stated a first page title: THE KILLER OF GREAT NATIONS. That´s true. Only 2 nation remain to be taken down, Portugal and France. Rethink and reconsider.
Can we talk about the clear red card that Otamendi should've gotten!? VAR my ass....