Outbreak - Cold War Zombies Review Series

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  • While Die Maschine and Firebase Z were much simpler experiences that almost any zombies player could pick up and enjoy, Outbreak was something entirely new. A massive, open-world, objective-oriented approach to zombies that could be more easily updated throughout the year to create a massive, ever-evolving sandbox to play around with. Treyarch hoped to create a new take on the classic zombies formula that could help bring in those that might not have given the zombies mode a try before, while at the same time, being something that longtime fans could love. Does it succeed in achieving those rather lofty ambitions? Let's discuss!
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:23 - Part One - The Good
    16:14 - Little Things
    18:05 - Part Two - The Bad
    28:20 - Nitpicks
    30:27 - Part Three - Conclusion
    32:11 - Outro
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  • @Jrrizzo
    @Jrrizzo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    New!
    With Outbreak finished, I'm finally done with Cold War! I had a great time covering this game and I hope you all enjoyed the videos I put out on the game... even if they took forever to actually come out but I'm pretty sure most of you are used to that by now.
    Vanny is kinda bad though like let's be real

    • @BlueJayz474
      @BlueJayz474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She kinda bad tho

    • @1SSGaming
      @1SSGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      are u doing more of these map reviews for other games?

    • @devinurenda5229
      @devinurenda5229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dead ops 3 review instead of vanguard please

    • @chazzerbox_
      @chazzerbox_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      disagree with everything you said about legion, i despise that boss
      i could not agree with you more on that vanny remark

    • @penman1859
      @penman1859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any chance you'll review Security Breach???

  • @LateNightHalo
    @LateNightHalo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    4:43 the reverb fart sounds always leave me in stitches

    • @dbkwk9
      @dbkwk9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LNG?!

    • @davemac9563
      @davemac9563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fancy seeing you here!

  • @lbsc1201
    @lbsc1201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    The reason why Collateral and Armada are so different is because they're Combined Arms maps, not Fireteam ones. Interestingly Zoo, despite being blatantly designed as a Fireteam map and having the "wz_" prefix in the game files, was never released as a Fireteam map and is exclusive to Outbreak.

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They used Zoo as a standard MP map but tweaked it to be closer to the original BO1 version.

    • @ispepsiokay411
      @ispepsiokay411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think what happened is that they made zoo and then realize that barely anyone actually plays fireteam, so they just gave it to the zombies guys and said "well, have fun"

    • @JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny
      @JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They never released it in fireteam so they could pretend that they made it just for outbreak. For those weird people that care THAT much that they don't like outbreak just because it reuses mp maps. It was intended to be used in both initially

    • @dominik4666
      @dominik4666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny Honestly, to me, that seemed like Treyarch trying to tackle a strawman.
      The people that complained about maps being reused weren't complaining that "People can play this in multiplayer"
      They were complaining that, as Rizzo points out in the Bad, the maps don't fit the gameplay too well, they're too big, too empty, look uninspired and boring and have nothing special about them.
      They literally do less than Nacht did, when it comes to design and gameplay.

    • @JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny
      @JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dominik4666 You haven't been on zombies twitter

  • @PerseusCW
    @PerseusCW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Loved this Cold War review series. I’m sad it has to come to an end now

    • @brandonsoria7666
      @brandonsoria7666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here :(

    • @Higglewoggle
      @Higglewoggle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The only logical thing to do is to start another Cold War so treyarch can make Cold War 2

    • @Superlalo_1
      @Superlalo_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Higglewoggle Well Go ask Russia and China, they might make it happen or Ww3

    • @clahvb
      @clahvb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Superlalo_1 but then it wouldnt be a col war

    • @Superlalo_1
      @Superlalo_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clahvb they just gotta keep it lowkey then to make it a cold war

  • @penguinsrockrgr8yt216
    @penguinsrockrgr8yt216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    12:14
    “Deal with it, bring a parachute” is the most Soviet response to having safety protocols I’ve ever heard

  • @TheFortySevenTimes
    @TheFortySevenTimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    No, Rizzo actually died, he made this in his tombstone form. He'll respawn next round.

    • @Zer000Naught
      @Zer000Naught ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rest in pieces down for the count 🪦

  • @bigjeff21
    @bigjeff21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The best part about Outbreak is how easy it is to just hop on and have a fun casual experience. I love going for high rounds on maps like Five and Shangri La but sometimes i wanna play with my feet kicked up!

  • @dominik4666
    @dominik4666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Y'know what they should've done for the Excision bossfight?
    Two ordas. Change the models a bit, make one of them focus on ranged attacks and the other move lightly faster and only do Melee ones, call them The Twins or something.
    Just something more interesting, honestly. Literally a simple spin like "instead of one, it's two" is a million times more interesting than just copy and paste. Plus it'd make the amount of time you have to clear the LZ make sense.
    You just have way too much time for what is an Orda fight and a few zombies and specials.
    Also, quick nitpick you probly didn't notice: Die Maschine establishes that in the Dark Aether, corpses float up, however in the Holdout that doesn't happen. Probably an oversight.

    • @Zaneviscor
      @Zaneviscor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do float if theyre outside

  • @Crayveee
    @Crayveee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    With the mysteries keeping people engaged i can agree
    Remember when die maschine had orda's going around the map from far away?
    People used to make so many theories on who they are and we were constantly engaged in the game wondering what it could be
    Firebase Z kinda ruined it even though the first time fighting it was shocking and fun.

    • @dominik4666
      @dominik4666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly man, I couldn't agree more.
      It's also why I really REALLY hated what Vanguard zombies is doing now.
      We never got to see anything that is native to the Dark Aether. Everything we are fighting are things from our or previous worlds that were taken there and have been changed.
      The dark aether was this mysterious realm, you had cults who worshipped great beings, but we never knew anything about it.
      Hell, even the Forsaken was just a man who managed to survive far enough to become a "Deity" himself.
      So when Vanguard comes in and gives them faces and voices, it removes ALL of the interest I ever had. It went from this incomprehensible reality of sheer cosmic horror to some cool RPG Game designs that say over the top things.
      The dark aether shouldn't have a face.
      Honestly, that's depressing to the point I think I'll pretend Vanguard isn't Canon. It's not like it's any relevant to the story anyways.
      The dark aether barely started, it barely picked up its pace and momentum and somehow they managed to ruin the thing right away.

    • @shadewolf0075
      @shadewolf0075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Honestly I also agree blundell shot zombies in the foot by giving too many answers. Hince why aether needed to end. There wasn't any point in doing it anymore. All the mystery was gone and the characters were stuck in a no win scenario that made fans constantly tried to pull a Kirk move to make it a winnable thing for the crew. The mystery in the dark aether story is what's keeping me invested right now

  • @kingkjc1935
    @kingkjc1935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love seeing the Cold War music tracks edited in and popping up every time the music switch. Such a small detail but made the immersion so much better

  • @originalmemes2224
    @originalmemes2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Outbreak was honestly such a breath of fresh air. Shook up the gameplay just enough while keeping everything familiar. Even managed to get some friends who previously didn't like zombies into Cold war's zombies through Outbreak.

    • @tankbeast8480
      @tankbeast8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It sucks

    • @originalmemes2224
      @originalmemes2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@tankbeast8480 ok

    • @N-GinAndTonicTM
      @N-GinAndTonicTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@tankbeast8480
      That's the most fucking insulting criticism of anything I've ever heard.
      "It sucks" and not elaborating even a shred of why you've reached that conclusion is pathetic.

    • @seanwhalen5738
      @seanwhalen5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tankbeast8480 it doesn't suck. Fight me

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@N-GinAndTonicTM he’s not wrong

  • @GlassOfWhiteMilk
    @GlassOfWhiteMilk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    23:56 this man just brought up the zombies community in a nutshell in a single sentence🤣

  • @sinner2133
    @sinner2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I feel like Outbreak is the best thing that’s happened to Zombies since Zombies Chronicles. The community has asked for an open world experience for years, and Treyarch *delivered*. It sucks that some people won’t acknowledge it simply because of the CoD cycle (though, to be fair, the mode was barebones at launch, but it’s FAR from that now), but hey, it’s still incredible nonetheless. And yes, both Legion and OB Survival are awesome!

    • @normandave3429
      @normandave3429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Come on now. First of all, as you said, Outbreak is in its current state only like 8 MONTHS after its release, and after being updated nonstop just keep it afloat. But most importantly, even now, the whole experience is just dead boring: every single match plays the same and takes hours and hours on end, of running around empty spaces and doing objectives that are always the same (and most times super cheesable)

    • @N-GinAndTonicTM
      @N-GinAndTonicTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@normandave3429
      "Every single match plays the same, and is just running around between objectives"
      Wow, it's almost like... That's what CoD Zombies is at its core...
      But yeah, "Outbreak bad 😡😡😡"

    • @sinner2133
      @sinner2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@normandave3429 listen, I won’t blame anyone if Outbreak isn’t their cup of tea, but honestly, if your excuse is “it plays the same”, then you lose any and all credibility you would’ve had if you just mentioned objective flaws or simply that you personally don’t like it. Round based plays the exact same every fucking time you boot it up, it’s been like this since World at War and it’ll always be the same. This is the worst counter argument I’ve ever read against Outbreak.

    • @sinner2133
      @sinner2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@N-GinAndTonicTM reading his argument made my jaw drop.

    • @sinner2133
      @sinner2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@normandave3429 to be fair to you, there is a lot of empty space, but I don’t find it an issue. I wouldn’t have had more fun of Treyarch added some random buildings in areas that are now empty.
      And yeah, the objectives might be easy for the most part, but that’s the reason why OB Survival exists.

  • @CamCaustic
    @CamCaustic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Flat out agree with everything in this review and you managed to actually put into words some of the reasons I dislike some stuff, ESPECIALLY the dropping of Samantha as some sort of leader for the group.
    Also Super sprinters on the BO3 footage. New fear unlocked.

  • @spoon4896
    @spoon4896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve absolutely loved Outbreak’s roguelike and exploration feeling. Also there was a space to take a break and breathe unlike exhausting round-based maps. Absolutely amazing game mode. I’ve played for like 1000 hours and had a blast.

  • @2025fahaddenseje
    @2025fahaddenseje 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    13:25 Hate to break it rizzo, but that woman is just a sticker you could get from the reserves from bo4 lol...
    No need to theorize it, it's just done artistically.
    You can also spot it on die maschine.
    And just like the ECM sound bug, the invincible zombie on onslaught hasn't been fixed to this day. The only way to kill it, is with the Frenzied Guard upgraded (Tier 3)...

  • @nutshell57
    @nutshell57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have really loved this series and just your reviews in general, you put so much love and effort into them as a well as a lot of your own charm and personality, it’s been a great ride with all the Cold War reviews, can’t wait to see what you work on next, take your time as well as take care of yourself too Rizzo. Thanks for the great content

  • @emiliomorales8507
    @emiliomorales8507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I absolutely think that Outbreak has its place in the zombies mode. They have a really strong foundation, and if treyarch takes the feedback into consideration and fix all of the shortcomings, this community will grow to love it.

  • @ornerycrayon2142
    @ornerycrayon2142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your reviews. Like the style and presentation with the small jokes sprinkled in are amazing. I can't wait to see what's next be it Persona, Halo, or more zombies

  • @Gabriel-hh6pm
    @Gabriel-hh6pm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "the hot serial killer bunny lady" i agree.

    • @dinorazor3413
      @dinorazor3413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah im 100% sure that the characters in security breach wont get the r34 treatment NOPE NOT AT ALL!

    • @Gabriel-hh6pm
      @Gabriel-hh6pm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dinorazor3413 my recently viewed pages say otherwise.

  • @motivated-mahri7926
    @motivated-mahri7926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always enjoy watching the reviews on this channel. I have since the Logan review, it’s nice to get an in depth look at someone’s opinion on things that I love.

  • @IDontKnowGamers
    @IDontKnowGamers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I need to go on a little rant about the song Easter eggs, when I learned that they were all instrumental, I was kinda upset and it made me not want to do them. Elena Siegman did a great job with the vocals and I wish I could hear them in their original form, especially when they just bought the rights to that amoeba song from Mauer Der Toten. Rant over, I hope everyone is enjoying the video!

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yuuuup. Really lame they were instrumental

    • @N-GinAndTonicTM
      @N-GinAndTonicTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We went from Alone and Lost to just basic instrumental versions of the classic tunes.
      Which if that's your thing, then great. But it just reeks of Black Ops 4 again; where we had absolute banger's like Mad Hatter, Where Are We Going 2015, Mystery and Shockwave to just a bland, forgettable piece of instrumental in A Light On The Shore.

  • @doomshill110
    @doomshill110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I really wish that there were like. Npcs in outbreak. Like merchants and survivors. Just to give it some more content

    • @trollofduty007
      @trollofduty007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m late to this, but Imagine a world event where you find a group of survivours and you can help them fight off some waves of the undead, then you’re rewarded if they make it through. Like imagine you’re roaming in the workd, then you hear some distant gunfire, and stumble across a group of peoole desparately fighting against the zombies. Simple concept, but whenever you give me AI that will fight at my side in a game, I’ll do my damndest to protect them
      On the other side of the coin, imagine you find a team of Omega operators, and you need to kill them

  • @JohnJohnDoeDoe
    @JohnJohnDoeDoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John, I must say that the format of your review series is one, that I think, is very underutilized in the TH-cam landscape. What I like most is that positives and negatives are split into their own sections, so that it gives a more objective analysis. So many other reviews, while still great, feel like the positives overshadow or downplay the negatives, and vice versa. With how people treat media as simple as "it's either God tier masterpiece, or a shit stain on creation," it's great to see someone finally give something where credit is due, and when something needs to be properly criticized. One problem though is that it may feel "soulless." Not saying that you don't care, but it may feel very confined and straightforward like watching a lecture rather than a talk with a friend. Overall, some good stuff.

  • @Lynch2507
    @Lynch2507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Im of the belief that COD has been coasting on nostalgia since Black Ops 4, but I'll give them this, at least Outbreak was unique and had a lot going for it. A pretty nice bright spot in the Aether filler arc that was Cold War Zombies

    • @kapkant6197
      @kapkant6197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd argue Treyarch has been coasting off nostalgia since Black Ops 3 with stuff like Peter McCain being in Gorod being the most egregious

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kapkant6197 that was definitely the START of it. There was enough going on in Black Ops 3 that it didn't feel as egregious as Black Ops 4, mainly the fact that Black Ops 3 zombies is, imo, the best zombies experience period, like Black Ops 3's narrative could stand on its own two feet. But stuff like McCain or Revelations just being a bunch of maps fused together and some other more nitpicky stuff do sort of sow the seeds for Black Ops 4's terribly rushed conclusion to Aether and Cold War/Vanguard's "Quick, shove as many Black Ops characters not involved in the Warzone plot into Zombies" strategy. Like, don't get me wrong, the McCain thing is fanservice, but its not nearly as bad as revealing this potentially new, interesting direction you have for Zombies is just Richtofen sneaking around again for the umpteenth time.
      which, side note, Black Ops as a whole has just dropped like, 3 or 4 storylines. You had the weirdass "Mason's daughter cloned and is dating Woods and everyone's ina simulation" thing in Blackout, you had Chaos which had lots of potential if they didn't cripple it by only giving it half the game alongside Aether's finale, you have whatever the fck is going on with Vanguard and Cold War's interconnectedness... they're real bad for just starting and stopping stuff

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, ok, btw, went looking through some wikis, OMG the COD Mobile/comic storyline????????????? THAT shit is fanfiction LMAO

    • @LAST_STAND_FAN
      @LAST_STAND_FAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lynch2507 Luhmao, Mace spraying akimbo SMGs into Tank Dempsey's face as Ghost watches. Crazy.

    • @kapkant6197
      @kapkant6197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LAST_STAND_FAN don't forget Makarov's clown soldiers that Ghost and Dempsey fight

  • @Ell_the_Nuke
    @Ell_the_Nuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a wonderful series the passion you show in these videos is something I aspire to be

  • @TomTheFridgeFighter
    @TomTheFridgeFighter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    congrats on hitting 100k subs dude! love your vids. keep it up

  • @nashzahm
    @nashzahm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I needed this today. My stepfather passed away this morning, thank you for helping me through my day Rizzo.

    • @goldentoparican788
      @goldentoparican788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So sorry to hear about your lost. My condolences

  • @commanderwolffe1475
    @commanderwolffe1475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now THIS is what I’ve been waiting for. A full review of outbreak after all the updates

  • @zeppeli1157
    @zeppeli1157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Finally, fnaf and cod zombies in the same video by rizzo himself. My childhood has come full circle

    • @goldentoparican788
      @goldentoparican788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did talked about Fnaf in a cod zombies video before in his Frozen Dawn review I believe

  • @belinskiparadox7687
    @belinskiparadox7687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rizzo has his iconic 7 pm tantrum if he doesn't get a rampage inducer

  • @jamescarrotcsl8
    @jamescarrotcsl8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looking forward to watching another high quality video king

  • @samueltc1716
    @samueltc1716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came back to watch the cold war series once again ,the amount work ,edits ,sound FX(love the fart sounds) are greatly appreciated,keep it up I hope to make videos like u do 🤌🤌

  • @jman72898
    @jman72898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For me outbreak was fun for like a week, it just doesn’t have any of that zombies flare which was heavily lacking in the entirety of CW. It was a cool idea but if I knew retroactively that it would lead to Der Anfang I would’ve completely written it off tbh.

  • @HenryStudebaker
    @HenryStudebaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who really likes Outbreak despite its flaws, I really appreciated this very balanced review. Great job, Rizzo!

  • @Iejoshy
    @Iejoshy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always held Outbreak in extremely high regard for a few reasons, especially as someone who's been a zombies sweat since WaW days.
    The break from the norm was very welcome in my opinion, while Tortured Path tried to break away, that human rights violation of a zombies "mAp" just sucked outright, despite how good some of the WW2 zombies maps were. Outbreak on the other hand is a pretty relaxing mode to play, while there aren't crazy differences in each game you play, that goes for the zombies mode as a whole either way.
    Despite Outbreak being one of my favourite zombies experiences I absolutely do not think this is what should take over round based, the literal reason I did not buy Vanguard is because I saw what the zombies ended up being like and it is miserable through and through. The mode would best suit exactly how it worked in Cold War, which now that the season's been concluded for many months it has really grown into an impressive zombies game (despite how little time they've been given fuck you Activision). Outbreak especially has grown and developed over the season and about halfway between Mauer and Forsaken, became a surprisingly fleshed out mode with some impressive replayability and enjoyment, while still retaining that classic "hop on for a chill game of zombies" energy.
    These reviews have been amazing though, and I honestly believe that despite the other zombies games being many years old it would be cool to see a review series on the older zombies games. Though, you'd have to endure many hours of some of the most miserable zombies experiences ever (ahemIW).

  • @seanwhalen5738
    @seanwhalen5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always appreciate your reviews.
    Good job!
    I liked what you said about realism doesn't equal entertainment.

  • @SpriderMonk
    @SpriderMonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fantastic review. I’m sad that’s it for Cold War reviews. Had a great time!

  • @GameExplore100
    @GameExplore100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rizzo, we all appreciate what you do man. Love ya and Stay Safe Man.

  • @BobaIsBees
    @BobaIsBees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    #addsextocoldwar

  • @DrRicktofen
    @DrRicktofen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    25:28 bro i swear it was my headphones, now i dont feel stupid

  • @Tony_H_Rapt
    @Tony_H_Rapt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The drawing of the woman, in the forsaken "no one escapes alive" is a spray paint from bo4 😅

  • @mexmenderp
    @mexmenderp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time watching one of your videos, love the your mom jokes sprinkled in. I also had no idea you could skip an extra world level at all. I'll have to give it a try next time.

  • @cleverpsyche115
    @cleverpsyche115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Rizzo, you feeling alright man? Good vid yet again.

  • @ksmp4740
    @ksmp4740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best things about Outbreak is the Demented Echo imo, it's quite interesting to find one just chilling or hearing the scream and trying to kill it before it gets you because you ran by them without noticing

  • @LuvzToLol21
    @LuvzToLol21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A few of my own thoughts and opinions:
    - I'm surprised you barely touched on the mode's update history. To me personally, I feel like that's part of the reason it wasn't well received. When the mode first launched in season 2, it was a brand new experience the likes of which we'd never seen before. So much space and unprecedented freedom. But the initial wonder went away pretty quickly. The mode suffered from the same problems which Der Anfang now faces, in that it felt really "underbaked" at launch with only 3 maps (Alpine, Ruka and Golova) and no easter egg quest. It might not seem like a big deal, but it's hard to remember the last time we had a zombies map of any kind without a main quest. Long-time players like myself found Outbreak at launch to be really shallow. Besides levelling up weapons, grinding challenges or just trying to see how high of a round you can make it to, there was no "end goal" to work towards, and I think that's why a lot of players dropped off initially.
    - The Holdout objectives are probably my personal favourites. It reminds me of playing a bare-bones map like Nacht der Untoten or COD WWII's Groesten Haus. Just you and your buddies, locked in a tiny room with just an ammo box, some breakable crystals, a bunch of boarded up windows and endless hordes of zombies that slowly ramp up as the timer ticks down, until by the end all the windows are broken as you desperately circle-strafe around a massive horde as you beg the clock to reach 0. Sometimes, that's all you really need.
    - The loot crates play a modified version of the Coalesence Corporation jingle from BO3's campaign when you're close. I just thought that's a nice touch.
    - The Legion fight would be so much more bearable if there weren't endless hordes of every special enemy in the game at once. That's the reason why it's the only easter egg in Cold War I still haven't completed. I've tried going solo, I've tried going with 1, 2, 3 friends who all knew what they were doing. We've tried having an MMO raid setup with a dedicated DPS, healer and tank. Every single time the hordes ended up overwhelming us. A random Mimic would grab someone, or someone would get stuck between a Soldat and a wall, or whatever. That's why I've given up on trying to defeat this motherfucker.
    - I'm also not a big fan of the black chest world event. It just doesn't feel challenging enough IMO. All you really do is stand in place and shoot an orb as it flies past while dodging zombies, rinse and repeat until all 3 orbs have been destroyed. The amount of zombies it throws at you never really poses a challenge unless you shoot all 3 orbs at once. And the rewards you get from it are great, but they feel really situational. If you get the chest on round 1 that's great, you get a free pack-a-punch and get to save 5000 points for something else. But if you get it on round 2 or 3, chances are by then you already have 1 or 2 weapons which you've already packed once, so there's no reason to do the chest unless you want a few extra points.
    - This is moreso a comment on the Firebase maps themselves, but Treyarch really put a lot of time and effort into these places, getting all the little details right, the maps feel so genuine and lived in. See, my family comes from Belarus, one of the former Soviet republics, and although we emigrated to Canada in 2000, I've gone back to visit relatives several times and I've seen places in real life that look exactly like Golova, Ruka, Zoo, etc. Right down to the tiniest details, like if you go into the little cafes in Golova, you'll see old-school cash registers and scales, and the menu will have traditional Slavic comfort food on it like borsht, uha and rassolnik. Even though Outbreak can feel like Treyarch haphazardly slapped zombies into multiplayer maps, there's so much thought put into the maps themselves.

    • @Tyler_82
      @Tyler_82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      your clearly forgetting or are unaware of the best part of the black chest reward is the ghost/spirt thing that spawns in and saves you by killing all zombies around you if your about to go down and health is at 40 or lower. that alone is always worth doing it. has saved my many times from taking a down.

    • @LuvzToLol21
      @LuvzToLol21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tyler_82 Yeah I know about the ghost. But here's my problem with it. First of all, you can only carry one extra life ghost at a time, so if you already got the black chest on round 1 there's basically no reason to do it again if it comes up again on round 3. And, as Rizzo mentioned, with the way the difficulty scaling works the first 3-4 rounds are really easy. Plus, there's no denying that Outbreak takes a very long time depending on what you're doing. Just setting up for the Legion easter egg while doing all the main and optional objectives over 5 rounds before you get to the Ruka silos takes about an hour, especially if you're playing solo. A lot of people just prefer to exfil out at round 3-5 because they get bored or are grinding guns. And lastly, while I'm not denying that the extra life ghost is a great perk, it still doesn't help that the core black chest gameplay of sitting around and shooting orbs is really boring.

  • @salseren1152
    @salseren1152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your connections in this video great job on another awesome video also I myself am a fnafand cod zombies fan good stuff John Rizzo keep up the awesome work and kick ass videos also im glad they went back to mystery in the game

  • @hellhounds04
    @hellhounds04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:50 I'm so glad they allow you to pet the hounds when they're effected by Brain Rot.

  • @justicepunch8758
    @justicepunch8758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your discussion about mystery was SO GOOD! I have been saying this for YEARS! Despite how much BO3 was great and made the internet fans go crazy, the peak of casual interest in Zombies was always BO1 because (mystery and characters > a great story) any day of the week.

  • @rbnola3340
    @rbnola3340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the cut to the conclusion title!

  • @_DrSus
    @_DrSus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I started playing cold war just a few months back and am now grinding for dark aether, which ultimately leaves me playing outbreak constantly to level my weapons up. I've encountered every single issue with this mode you just listed (especially the secure audio mission) and it just sucks, hopefully bo6 fixes and renevatates the formula they have, because at the end of the day it is a well designed mode and hope to see better designed in the future. Good video man 👌

  • @RivetingAdventures
    @RivetingAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For those looking for a challenge in round based, use the Marshals with rampage inducer on Mauer. Turning on power is difficult without staminup.

  • @kurtisgre
    @kurtisgre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These have been bloody brilliant thank you Rizzo. Any chance you dare do a retrospective on the older maps?

  • @tankbeast8480
    @tankbeast8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He’s back!

  • @Infectedbybloo
    @Infectedbybloo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit an actual objective review that covers the leaked info too ily rizzo

  • @frogerzard6606
    @frogerzard6606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish they made the silo a survival map or something. Also you can actually shoot the tempests projectile which is pretty neat
    Edit: dang man you really were speaking directly to me when you said zombie boomers and went off about blundells Era vs the old stuff. Love that.
    Last thing: the editing and B roll on this video was crisp 👌

  • @CuidosGG
    @CuidosGG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is exactly what i've been waiting for

  • @bigchickentime7391
    @bigchickentime7391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Outbreak is one of the biggest W’s treyarch has ever taken

    • @Quad373
      @Quad373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Ls

    • @bigchickentime7391
      @bigchickentime7391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Quad373 L take

    • @z9blitz532
      @z9blitz532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigchickentime7391 nah m8

    • @bigchickentime7391
      @bigchickentime7391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@z9blitz532 the lack of likes on the comment above disagree

  • @SPECTRAL_ACE
    @SPECTRAL_ACE 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That whole bit about the mystery returning in Cold war is something I love about that game and what makes me enjoy it still, even though MWZ is fun for me its nothing compared to what Cold war is and how I feel playing it

  • @randomguy2402
    @randomguy2402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    18:24 from what I understand, the initial launch maps were actually not designed for outbreak originally, they were designed for Warzone, being designed more like Blackout, but they couldn’t port it over to the WZ engine properly and so just made Verdansk 84.
    So that’s why their designs are really similar and too wide open, it was made as a BR PVP experience originally

    • @KinkKush
      @KinkKush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      which is so sad, because the soviet union aesthetic is soooo fucking cool on these maps dude. verdansk is cool for its modern day setting but the cold war aesthetic just kicks ass man. instead we have caldera, which might be a good map(?) but the setting is sooo uninspiring.

    • @dankmctwist6575
      @dankmctwist6575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KinkKush I disagree I think Caldera is a much more interesting map than Verdansk

    • @KinkKush
      @KinkKush 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dankmctwist6575 to me i think its the limitations of being in MW. i think vanguards pacific aesthetic looks soo much better than calderas look. meanwhile verdansk didnt suffer from that limitation

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of the maps were made for outbreak. That’s one of my biggest gripes with this side mode

    • @dankmctwist6575
      @dankmctwist6575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KinkKush I agree, I hope whatever they have planned for the next iteration of warzone translates better for different art styles for the yearly art style changes.

  • @The_One_Called_J
    @The_One_Called_J 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You didn't mention the music that played on day 1 of outbreak when near Zombies.
    I missed it. It makes you feel sneaky.
    The updated music gets annoying fast
    But that's just me.

  • @ignaciovitalis3971
    @ignaciovitalis3971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The orda scream to conclusion transition is peak John Rizzo

  • @imagoloop4819
    @imagoloop4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a ride it’s been

  • @Nathan-qs2ug
    @Nathan-qs2ug 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GONNA MISS THE REVIEWS :(

  • @aidanbriggs4534
    @aidanbriggs4534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good take!

  • @TrueMrBaconLover
    @TrueMrBaconLover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we pray we get Mommy Milker models in Vanguard for that Origins review (if the offer is still on the table)

  • @zelyt
    @zelyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wake up babes, new Rizzo upload

  • @Ir0nSpider935
    @Ir0nSpider935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one who doesn’t play zombies anymore (haven’t since bo4) but still get excited when I see another retrospective 😅

  • @B00fus
    @B00fus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    another banger from rizzo :) looking forward to the persona 3 review

  • @AussieSD
    @AussieSD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope Kevin Drew watches this. He's taking a lot of feedback from the community at the moment on twitter that's really going to help with the 2023 zombies game

  • @Tyler_82
    @Tyler_82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolute best!!!!! thing to happen to zombies since the first easter egg came out! its an epic mode that should be the way zombies moves forward in the future! round base maps are decent dont get me wrong but after ya do the main quest on that said map it gets boring very fast!! i really really think and hope that 3arch will give us an even better version of outbreak in there next game!! cold war in general was a great great game! zombies especially!!! 3arch really knocked it outta the park with this game as a whole but absolutely rocked it with outbreak!!!!

  • @KingOfHearts777
    @KingOfHearts777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gimme the security breach critique Rizzo! I KNOW YOU HAVE IT!

  • @The_One_Called_J
    @The_One_Called_J 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rizzo uploaded?
    Yes.

  • @camerondethlefs
    @camerondethlefs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t realize this got uploaded

  • @Qetzl
    @Qetzl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this, is an epic poggers review

  • @samueltc1716
    @samueltc1716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your cold war content and i love you

  • @gwen3504
    @gwen3504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That might just be the best actually funny (and respectful) gay joke I’ve heard in a long time. Bravo, Rizzo.

  • @aurelionight
    @aurelionight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly did enjoy Outbreak a lot. I had (and still have) concerns that it'll overtake round-based completely due to the fact that you can easily reuse (larger) MP maps for it, but I think that's going to happen eventually. Already /is/ happening to a certain extent with Vanguard, so the quicker you come to terms with that the better, I think.

  • @meantcabbage711
    @meantcabbage711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was really well made and I had a lot of good laughs with the jokes

  • @TommyRoCk598
    @TommyRoCk598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try to imagine a dmz mode but with zombies, a survival horror cod style with extraction mechanics, loot, quest and players in a huge map.. This could be amazing

  • @arbiter-
    @arbiter- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the only youtuber making cod content worth watching. I've lost interest in this franchise for the most part but I can't pass up another Rizzo Zombie video.

  • @officialmrfifty
    @officialmrfifty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Rizzo!
    However I was hoping you'd mention how bland the gameplay can get inspite of how much there is to do. For me, in spite of how much I too appreciate the freedom of approach you have in Outbreak, the fact alone that you'll be doing the same objectives repeatedly got old pretty quick. To circumvent this, part of me always wished they'd add modifiers of some sort; be it map weather changes, increased special/elites spawns or changes to standard zombie behaviour. As much as everyone laments Vanguard, I think combat modifiers alongside it's addition of Covenants would contribute to a psuedo-fresh feeling experience.

  • @jonathanriches4419
    @jonathanriches4419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Rizzo. It's not a perfect comparison but Outbreak from CW feels like a better executed bo4 mutations to me. The community was so excited by the idea of customizing a match from the very start with bo4 mutations, but the overwhelming volume of customizability scared off a lot of people, even hardcore players (also disabling easter eggs was super dumb). Outbreak gives you true freedom to completely change your gameplay at a moment's notice, instead of being something you have to commit to for the entire match, which fits a lot better imo.

  • @Fckituppp
    @Fckituppp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t really play CW but I always loved the world building they made sure their just telling us right now but hopefully soon they show us soon

  • @goldentoparican788
    @goldentoparican788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    31:08 I have been saying this for months and I am glad someone sees it this way too. Der Anfang has been dogpiled on ever since launch because of this very reason. Because of no round based map to keep players occupied and this being the only thing Vanguard Zombies have to offer currently, so many people got pissed

  • @xXxKAMIKAZExXx
    @xXxKAMIKAZExXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad you brought up the mystery topic. I loved WAW and Black Ops Zombies because of all the theories and lack of information given. Black Ops 3 was pretty much exposition and not that intresting beacuse of it.

  • @Therealnonja
    @Therealnonja 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @UsagiMaddie
    @UsagiMaddie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That glitch you mentioned, happen to me on PS5. All sounds were muted, even background apps and shit so I exited and it fixed it. It was the PS4 version I was playing via backwards compatibility because this never happened to me on the PS5 version.

  • @sml2k186
    @sml2k186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently the lost soul in the black box is pyotr from the intel

  • @ianhopkins7457
    @ianhopkins7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    easiest way to do the legion boss is nearly kill all 3 orbs without breaking one to lessen the time inside the closed cirlce`s, with more bosses, dont use a wonder weapon and it spawns less bosses, dual wield amp will be the easiest spawns as they are pistol classed, hopefully anybody struggling to do this is helped

  • @garyclint9335
    @garyclint9335 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started playing Outbreak and I enjoy it more than I thought I would

  • @domino3283
    @domino3283 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who is watching when abomination is in outbreak

  • @plplplplplpl7336
    @plplplplplpl7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24:58 you sure do love those "your mom" jokes huh
    Good because I do too

  • @AlanGohel
    @AlanGohel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wake up babe, new Rizzo opinion just dropped.

  • @clarencetheshark1433
    @clarencetheshark1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo, new Rizzo video dropped

  • @liamjmw
    @liamjmw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like in a couple years the launch of Outbreak is going to feel very nostalgic. It marked a new era of zombies and while it may have been responsible for the abomination that is Vanguard, I still had a great time with it and wish they’d kept expanding on it for years to come. I honestly wouldn’t mind if i’m the next Treyarch game, they just ported this exact version of Outbreak over and continued where it left off. Doesn’t quite reach the enjoyment of round based, but a welcome addition to the series overall

    • @Quad373
      @Quad373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldnt say it marked a new era of zombies. They throw zombies on the areas that make up the cancelled Warzone map.

  • @Skixex
    @Skixex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LES GOOOO NEW RIZZO VIDEO LES GOOO I LOVE YOU

  • @thicboibigsmoke7220
    @thicboibigsmoke7220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d be okay with outbreak returning with ORIGINAL maps that perhaps melt together older maps in the dark aether

  • @popculturenerd8570
    @popculturenerd8570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the vid and series, make sure to take some time to yourself if you need it bro, it’s not super crucial.

  • @Warersh
    @Warersh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:00 AYY YO WHAT