@@noneofyourbusiness9489 but hey in the first scene i see 2 two aircraft carrier going together so its may be the enterprise or hornet because the yorktown is depart after them and its just go alone, right??
Well that and in real life zeros weren't high enough to contest dive bombers on the first wave. They were too busy finishing off the poor bastards in the torpedo planes. On the second wave they were high enough but the dive bombers were largely uncontested on their dive.
@@cristobalalvarez5491 they all came from the same fleet, but various carriers at this time in the history of the us navy didn't coordinate. Their dive bombers and torpedo planes just flew off in various directions hoping to find the Japanese fleet, that's why the Japanese were hit at various times, by multiple squadrons, and from multiple directions.
People in the comments rightfully celebrate the historic accuracy of this, I feel like this teaches us how it really felt like for those Luftwaffe pilots attacking Pearl Harbor.
@@user-joe443 waw was just so much grittier. It's gotten to the point where I can't even describe how but the atmosphere in that game is second to none. Even the Black Cat mission felt like a hopeless ordeal and pure chaos. This though... Idk, looks boring, enjoying enough to watch tho lol
@Goosa Poosa no it couldn’t, take it from a actual pilot one miracle instance doesn’t make it better the a6m2/5 will fly circles around a dauntless, it can out climb out turn and out gun a spd. throw the 2 into a same altitude situation with a 1 or 2 circle fight unless that tail gunner has the aim of Chris Kyle the spd is a sitting duck hints why a lot of the times they would be escorted by wildcats or hellcats, it’s a purpose built dive bomber not a fighter
Out of every youtuber that played this mission has failed by killing and smashing into their allies, but this guy can aim and actually play the mission without issue.
@@sztypettto Only on one of the 4 japanese carriers on Midway can be plausible due to the design for the Hull and the deck (Kaga), and wasn't sunk by SBD´s from Yorktown, were from Enterprise (also the Model is from an Hiryuu Class, not the Kaga)
As a World War II TH-camr who likes focusing on the Pacific Theater, I have to say it’s cool to see this being shown in big budget games. I hope it interests more people in the topic! Although watching this gave me a headache from the historically accurate side of things, I will say the models looked pretty good and never thought I’d see a high-def version of a Yorktown-class carrier hangar and flight deck in a game.
@@ajdecker9375I was a big fan of World at War and especially the Black Cats mission. I meant to say the naval aviation side of things… which I get is tough due to it being a FPS
Agreed. I was a huge Midway buff as a kid 40 some odd years ago. There's a lot wrong with who was where when. For instance it's not that the fighter support wasn't there yet, it had already been drawn off. Midway was mostly a study in how planning is essential, plans are useless and outrolling the other side for luck can have huge implications. Still pretty cool from a game visual perspective.
What do you mean, the Dauntless was clearly the best fighter of WW2, superior to the zero in a dogfight. Too bad the American navy only used them for dive bombing. =P
Midway was such an amazing battle in WW2. Dont forget our Navy was almost destroyed after 12/7 and in 1 battle just 6 months after Pearl Harbor we decimated Japan's Pacific fleet,the Kido Butai was the biggest naval power in the world. After Midway Japans navy never carried out an offensive operation again. We ripped the soul out of Japans Navy.
the "Japan never carried out another offensive operation" thing is a bit wrong imo, i mean didn't their surface fleet launch a night raid on ships after midway?
@@enterprism5298 the night raids are the nightmare but after british et al radar its bearable japanese also didnt know code talker us navy band broke the midway code, in contrast to german linguistics skills and the enigma arm race the latter could be seen definitively by ahoy yt channel vid
By the end of 1942 early 1943 the US had one carrier in pacific operation (borrowing one from the UK USS robin) while Japan had four. The US was not dominating the Pacific war by the end of 1942 and Midway did not result in loss of many experienced Japanese pilots most of whom were recovered, you also can't just ignore the Guadelcanel campaign of 1942 and its significance which was in its totality more significant than Midway. In reality the soul of the Japanese navy was still very much existed, literally a month after Midway the US navy suffered its naval worst defeat ever at Salvo Island losing 5 cruisers at once despite outnumbering the opponent, the soul crushing truly took place in the marianas in 1944.
@@Swift-mr5zi carriers are the principal strike weapon of a ww2 navy not cruisers and America literally gutted 2/3 of that strike force after that unfair sneak attack
For all of the inaccuracies, it is actually really cool that the altimeter works at the start of the mission, but after taking damage, it doesn't. The needle is hanging free and swings left/right as the plane maneuvers.
The altimeter never made any sense throughout the entire segment, nor did the altitudes they did any of those things at - and the UI displayed 1700(ish) meters at one point, while the aircraft's altimeter displayed 1900ft. It basically didn't work from the very start - nor did they ever set it to begin with xD. ~ Speaking as an irritated pilot.
There were four Japanese carriers sunk during the battle, Akagi, Kaga, Sōryū, and Hiryū. The carrier which Wade successfully hit at the end could be Kaga.
You spent more time dogfighting rather than dive-bombing in this level. They should've switched perspectives between different pilots to give the player the proper experience.
Who cares? Read a history book? I’m a history buff and I watch videos, read documents, watch documentaries, read books and newspaper articles and I hear actual sources. I don’t come to play video games for historical accuracy, these are meant to be fun not realistic.
"As if this operation wasn't hard enough. Now the entire war is on the line?" Yes, ensign. That is what battles are for. To affect the outcome of a war.
@@kilgroyproductions1658 its the first time I've played an airplane like that. The one in Black Ops 2 was on rails. I didn't die, but it was kind of frustrating because the Zeroes maneuvered so well and Wade's plane felt like trying to turn a heavy shopping cart. If I was better at flying I would've liked it, but I think I only killed like 6 Zeroes in that whole mission.
@@alastor8091 i get that but i also think they made it that way because that’s how it was a zero was a light single seat aircraft while in that mission ur flying a big ass sbd dauntless i think them doing that was their way of trying to make it more historically accurate i agree overall the campaign wasn’t that good i expected better not an intro into ops
This mission looks like it'd be awesome, if I could simply get past the initial dive bombing part. I'll drop the bomb and the boat literally sucks me down to it lmao. I'll be about 30 meters up and then I'll body slam right into the ship by going straight down. I think my game may be bugged.
Honestly, the mission concept and the graphics is great, but they should make the plot based on the real Battle of Midway. The intro cutscene is pretty much right though, but they should have added the squadron of TBD Devastators attacking the fleet (this isn't necessary), but it starts wrong from 7:58 onwards. Here's my suggestion for a better concept of this mission: First, the first Japanese carrier to be hit by a bomb in the battle was the Kaga (the second carrier in the mission), and then the Soryu (the aircraft carrier was the first to be bombed in the mission was the Soryu), no air battle was shown between the sinking of the Soryu and the attacks on the remaining carriers. The Dauntless Squadron began diving bombs on the Akagi (offscreen in game) after that. After the Akagi was sunk, they should at least make a cutscene of the Japanese attack on the USS Yorktown. Before the attack on the Hiryu (offscreen in game) begins, the player will deal with the Zero squadron. After finishing the wave of aerial attacks, the player will dive bomb the Hiryu and the mission is over (Honestly, this will make the mission longer and more challenging like the Black Cats in World at War). Second, like everyone said, Dauntless can't outrun Zero. Edit: The cutscene starts at 14:49 is one of the best cutscenes in the CoD series, but was made for such a historical inaccurate WW2 game (i know this is just a game).
Game - yea the Americans all launched at the same time in a coordinated wave of aircraft that wiped out the Japanese fleet. Reality - the Americans all launch at different times and in some cases different directions. Catching the Japanese of guard by accident and sheer luck. I mean it’s still a good game but I wish they would input some of these details 👍
*Cough* there's IL-2 for that. But real life warfare is more Engineering and science than hollywood heroism. Then again which American kid has the patience to sit through a 5-7 hour mission? Mission's not over when there are explosions. You have to bring that plane back in one piece.
As I watch this game play, I think of my uncle Keith, Lt. j.g. in the U.S. Navy during world war 2. He flew a Corsair fighter off the U.S.S. Hornet (CV-12). He lived until he was 90 years old. A happy-go-lucky fellow, always with the smile and the laughter when our family gathered together. I miss him.
@@goy0551 If we’re talking about the biggest world conflict in history we would love realism and accuracy because nowadays these types of realistic historical games are made for us to experience. This game however just mocks the whole setting.
This campaign really had a potential to either do again old good 2-3 separate small campaings like in bulk of WW2 themed old CoD games, or do something simillar to BF1/V singleplayer format. The execution of this multinational special force is just too ludicrous and underdeveloped. They really wanted too hard to combine it with this new CoD universe where everything is interconnected.
@@hadihambali1627 I enjoyed the formula, both in Battlefield 1 and V, not necessarily campaigns themselves. From V for example I only liked one. And with how this Vanguard made it's campaign, I would far more prefer if they removed that entire multinational squad of super soldiers fairy tale and simply made small, contained stories set around events present in flashbacks which make bulk of campaign.
It seems this took inspiration from the style of the 2019 Midway film. But, it has none of the historical accuracy of that film (as far vents and people involved) but it shares many of the technical inaccuracies of that film and adds some of its own (ships being too close to each other, inaccurate models and unrealistic dive bombinng etc). But its just a COD game at the end of the day. If they made it 100% realistic, it probably wouldn't be very exciting as in this video game format. The good news is that the real battle is actually several times more interesting. There are several amazing books and audio books and lectures on youtube. I recommed Shattered Sword by Jonathan Parshal and Anthony Tully as probably the most detailed account of the battle.
@@BLUNTESSTBOOT233 yeah, but I think the Midway film had too much flak too. Or too many planes shot down by it. If I remember right I think only 1 plane, or maybe only 2, was confirmed to have been shot down by Japanese flak at Midway. The majority of Americans lost at Midway were due to the Japanese combat air patrol fighters instead.
I dont know if you already played the game, but holy shit did they threw historical accuracy out of the window in this game.....is like they didnt even try...japanese soldiers with STG44, MG42 and MG34....you fight in midway, get shot down and somehow crash in papa new guinea..the only thing missing was a Tiger tank with japanese camo while fighiting in Canada with stukas flying around
@@j3cu ofc they wouldnt give them their arisakas that would take too much time lol, and yeah and theyre gonna do that might aswell make the germans fight alongside the japanese even though there was no recorded stuff of them fighting together, bruh they were fighting west of midway islands but they crash landed on papa guena? Thats so far from midway and you would have already crashed to the ocean before you could make it to papa
If anyone wonders. The two carriers sunk in this video are the IJN Akagi and IJN Kaga. There were two others but not sunk in this video: IJN Souryuu and IJN Hiryuu
Someone said that in this mission you take off from Yorktown, which would mean that the only carrier you should have attacked was Sōryū. But then again this is CoD so who knows
The carrier is Enterprise (3:41, number"6" on the bridge), and the plane's number starts with a S, therefore it's VS-6. He hit Soryu first (bridge on the right, two stacks), dogfighted for five minutes, climbed into the clouds, and miraculously reloaded (Warthunder arcade mode? lol) and dropped another 1000lb on Kaga (bridge on the right, single stack, and "ka" written on the deck). The 100lbs on the wings somehow stayed there despite the planes weren't equipped with them IRL due to range and performance issues. It's funny because in real life the guy who sunk two carriers in one day was from the other squadron, VB-6 not VS-6. And the two carriers he hit were Akagi and Hiryu, not the two in game. And even then the game hit Soryu and Kaga in reverse order of what happened in real life. This somehow managed to be worse than the shitshow of a CGI movie Midway. Also I like how the rear seat gunner is calling out the altitude...
Yep the person was Richard "Dick" Best I remmember. SBD's did carry 1,000 pounders but it could only carry one under the belly for enought support, and imited its range significantly.
@@ryanc5195 The problem was the two extra 100lbs on the wings. The SBDs only carried a single 1000lb for anti-ship duties, as the extra 100lbs would reduce its range and therefore is reserved for mostly CAS against smaller ground targets.
Holy duck someone actually complaining about historical facts on a video game not meant to be historical and more to arcade, Jesus Christ some are just brain numb. Go back to your history channel if you want that or stick to historical TH-cam channel for that dim wit
Flying a SBD , Killed dozens of Zero (with bomb attached) and blew up a carrier on first run , keep on killing dozens of Zero and blew up a carrier on second run ... This guy gonna get the Medal of Honour after return to the carrier deck...
I totally agree, game looks outstanding but gameplay is just quite sad. For example in the North African mission there was a German soldier using a STG44...
Dick Best was one of the most successful American pilots that ever destroyed two enemy carriers in one day. Unfortunately due to breathing bad oxygen after the Americans won the battle, he never flew again.
@@keeganwatz7946 Between the Dauntless, Devastator, and Wildcat, the Dauntless was the only one that had a positive kill / death ratio in dogfights against the Zero. What it lacked in maneuverability, it compensated for in sheer durability.
Demi: What's the target!? Bruni: The Pacific Fleet at Midway. Once the phantom is engaged and our payload delivered, the Americans will have no choice but to retaliate. We will step aside as our enemies destroy each other and we will emerge on the right side of history. Demi: Then you leave me no recourse. Bruni: Recourse for what? Demi: To take back my ship Phantom 2013 Ed Harris as Demi David Duchovny as Bruni
Would have made more sense in an action sense to stick the player in a Wildcat, but I guess they wanted the player to single handedly win the Battle of Midway.
Beat McCreary doesn’t disappoint!! This is one of my favorite tracks from him. My favorite from this part has to be after you land your first bomb and enter the storm 8:58
Portrayal of Kaga's 2 story hangar decks at the end shows activision made some research about ships design. But in real Kaga had more wider and slightly higher hangar decks.
Why are ships literally on top of each other and not in battle formation? And, the Dauntlesses and Devastators launched completely sperate attacks. The SBDs got delayed and lost, but eventually found the carriers. The torpedo bombers where shot to shreds, almost all were lost.
He kept the canopy open to avoid the glass from fogging up. The reason he closed it during the dive bombing was to prevent the open canopy from slowing the plane down.
As someone who is a fan of naval history and knows a lot about this battle, the inaccuracies just pisses me off. Rant along with historical info: The amount of planes that you shot down during this battle literally makes you a double or triple or idk Ace (a Flying ace is a credit given to a pilot who shoots down 5 or more enemy aircraft). The dive bombers and torpedo bombers didn't attack the IJN fleet at the same time, the torpedo bombers arrive first and their attempt was a complete failure due to how terrible their planes and torpedoes are and the Zeroes shooting them down during their runs. When the dive bombers attacked the IJN fleet, there were no Zeroes over the fleet since they were chasing down the retreating torpedo bombers. During the battle, the dive bombers only had one bomb (even though the SBD can carry two bombs, they only used one so they can carry more fuel). The fleet formation is soo incorrect, the ships are too close to each other, in real life they're more farther apart from each other so they can maneuver to avoid bombs and torpedoes. During the dive bombing sequence, the Japanese carrier is soo slow to the point that they just want to die. The developers reused many models (Kongo, Kaga, Akagi) on the IJN fleet to the point where their carriers look alike, and the overabundance of Kongo everywhere. After dropping their bombs, SBDs would try and get out of the hailstorm of gunfire, not to try and become fighters (sure you can add the argument of "Swede" Vejtesa taking out 3 Zeroes in an SBD, but this is way more different as seen from this level). I'm tired of ranting here but after seeing this, i kinda now appreciate the movie Midway (2019) even though its kinda boring and mediocre, at least its more accurate than this level. On a side note, AFGuides I have no hate towards you, you do have some good content (especially the memes) i'm just complaining on how inaccurate this is. Also sorry for some bad grammar and i may also have some things wrong, so if there are some things incorrect be sure to let me know.
Real war is boring. You wanna play a game where you fly for 4 hours straight only to die or miss go find something else to play. Games add dramatic flair to appeal to people wanting to have fun. You obviously don't wanna have fun.
Games aren't supposed to carry the burden of being historically accurate, nobody has claimed this is the exact piece of history right here and besides games have lots of creative liberties for the sake of gameplay and gratification of players.
1:24 Why is there a US Army Air Corps sergeant on a US Navy carrier? At least they gave him the correct piping for his garrison cap if he is in the air corps, but everything else about that uniform. The research team DOES NOT deserve a raise.
This is the most innacurate version of the Battle of Midway i've ever seen, it's a disgrace. I'll just point out a few problems: Firstly, the american carrier screen is way too close to the carriers themselves. In real life, the carrier screen was formed of an outer ring of destroyers, a second closer ring of cruisers, and later on a last ring of battleships. Remember, the objective was to defend the carriers at all costs. Secondly, there wouldn't be any pre-flight checks and i don't think that the tower clears you for takeoff like modern days (copied from Battlefield 3.) Third, from the cockpit, the aircraft looks level with the carrier, whereas it should be at a higher angle than the deck, tailwheel. Forth, no attack group would ever huddle all of their aircraft together, the devastators were much slower than the dauntlesses, so the devastators took off first, and the dauntlesses took off later, the plan being for the dauntlesses to catch up to the devastators at the target. Fifth, the zeros appeared way too early, they should be defending their carriers, and where are the patrolling and maybe the escort wildcats? And it's clear that shooting down the zeros is literally a copy-paste of Cod WW2 where you're in the P-47, oh and the fact that your bombs replenish mid-air, seriously? You should be returning to the carrier for replenishment and refueling. Those are my major issues with this mission alone, but trust me, i have a lot more for the whole game, almost every mission.
Also another point to add besides every single thing that makes no sense as its really just a fantasy fever dream of a game set in WW2. Is that the whole hunt for the japanese carriers were a long fight and it took considerable effort and luck to destroy them. There was so many moments where the carriers got helluva lucky through using dodging tactics. Plus the americans lost ALOT of planes at first getting even anywhere near the carriers. I forgot the numbers but the kill ratio was on the japanese side for a while. And it was some really lucky and skilled pilots that managed to do the first hits which slowly added up until they had them in a unlucky situation where the carriers were in a spot they couldnt get out of. In short taking down the japanese carriers at midway was nothing short of alot of luck, effort and sheer stubborness on the american side.
It’s not that deep. At no point did they say this game would be historically accurate and cod releases a game every year so they don’t got time to put in every little detail. And nobody plays cod for historical accuracy, it’s an arcade shooter not a simulation. People who play cod, play for fun. I doubt they actually care about the inaccuracies the game has
@@benthomas2232 We did have T-34/85 with main gun that shoot rounds every 3 secs in WAW and it still awesome. They are arcadey but retained some of the historical context there which i appreciated. But this, nah.
Midway was my most favorite WW2 battle! I was so hyped to see how it'll go in Vanguard, and boy did it not disappoint! Wait...when did Midway have rain, thunder and lightning?! That wasn't suppose to happen!😳
@@BellaZuikaku4785 Me: Just "because it's a game" doesn't give you a perfect excuse to completely ruin and fill an already amazing historical event with unnecessary random ass bullshit. Many games from the past had already proven that one can still go the exaggerated route while being historically authentic enough that it doesn't disrespect the people from the real event and melt historians' brains. I don't hate this mission though, it's the least retarded among all the other missions of this dumpster fire of a game.
Hey, chill! All I'm saying was that I absolutely adored the Battle of Midway. So when I saw that this mission was going to be in a Call of Duty game, I was happy, surprised, and…all around excited. But to be honest, I didn't know if it did actually rain during the battle, soo…rain in Midway seemed new. Random, but new.
Thank God this is meant for entertainment purposes only, as this mission is a massively inaccurate presentation of the Battle of Midway. Here's my list I noticed: 1. The Japanese and American fleets must have been only a few miles from each other, as it takes no time to get to the enemy fleet. It took over 2 hours in real life. 2. Apparently, the Dauntless dive bomber is just as agile as the Japanese A6M Zero and has unlimited ammunition. Jackson would be the actual reason the Japanese fleet was destroyed, not the blazes caused by the bombs. 3. Dive bombers apparently are responsible for protecting torpedo planes, not fighters. 4. Japanese ships apparently don't shoot at any American aircraft below 2000 feet. 5. Jackson's Dauntless apparently has 2 500 lb bombs instead of the possible lone one carried below the fuselage. Did he drop his 500 lb bomb on one carrier and his wing bombs on the other? 6. Only 2 pilots at Midway, Norman "Dusty" Kleiss and Richard "Dick" Best, hit 2 aircraft carriers during the battle. Kleiss hit Kaga and Hiryu while Best hit Akagi and Hiryu.
😂😂😂 Zero basically giant paper plane with engine and LOTS of oil. Sure it give them great turn rate but it's slow and the climb rate isn't that good, it can't go at high speed cause the if it did the ailerons became unresponsive
Someone was heavily inspired by ''Going Hunting'' from Battlefield 3 and it wasn't bad, I would like to see BF doing it in current engines as well as COD
Glad to know that the Call of Duty franchise didn't leave out the Pacific campaign of WW2. In fact the Americans were more engaged towards the Pacific rather than in Europe.
I'm am thoroughly and pleasantly surprised at the ship and plane accuracy...fully expected Iowas, Yamatos, Essexs, hellcats, etc. The gameplay, well, it's call of duty so no surprises there.
Agreed the models are actually quite accurate to say the least. During the battle of midway the U.S didn't have many any battleships present. The largest ship they had were the carriers and cruisers. And the class of cruiser portrayed here is a new orleans class heavy cruiser which is also accurate. Although the ships are way too close to eachother but that is somewhat excusable since they wanted the scene to be more cinematic. One thing that bothers me is that the american cruisers are missing their gun turrets. Maybe the mission is unpolished im not sure but if you look hard enough you will notice that the gun turrets are missing.
On the Japanese side its also accurate. The Japanese did have battleships present along with cruisers and destroyers. The ships modeled here are also accurate since from what I can gather the models are either from the Nagato, Kongou, Fusou or ise class battleships. Yamato was present during the battle but was part of a separate fleet of warships meant to engage with the American fleet in a surface engagement. So props to the COD team in making the models accurate
@@amei653 it’s a ww2 video game that does everything but get ww2 right and it’s disappointing like bruh I wanna play a game about ww2 and then they release this game that just feels like it’s mocking ww2
I'm sorry but like, this presentation of the battle for Midway is just.... bad, i think if Activision really wanted to copy Battlefield on something, it shouldn't have been that flight check cameo that is better in execution and presentation but rather the opening of Battlefield 1 where if you die, your perspective switches to another pilot or rear gunner to empathize the lethality of dive bombing into flak fire rather than getting more Japanese kills in a single flight than most aces. Instead this just looks like something i'd see in a arcade machine, follow a scripted sequence, fly around in circles and shoot the same, uninteresting enemies at what's meant to feel like high speeds but in reality, just feel slow and sluggish from both Zero's and the aircraft your flying. I understand its not mean to be a milsim but actually respecting the events rather than this romanticized attempt of one of the most important battles within the Pacific Theatre, in respect to the companies American ancestors who some may of been there themselves (The Ancestors not the peeps in charge) at the battle of midway. If this is meant to be a highlight of Vanguard then its high time they should get someone different to direct the games.
@@shura426 Activision still run the COD franchise as a whole, they overseer all production of the COD games, Sledgehammer simply are just a dedicated studio.
@@ami6272 Its arguably one of the best campaign moments, really makes you realize that they were in the shit and no plot armor was coming to save you, in the campaigns words "You are not expected to surivive".
Damn, never heard of Call Of Duty Vanguard before. I'm not expecting COD franchise would make battle of Midway mission, this is awesome. I hope they make axis side campaign like "Battle of France" where the mission as Guderian's tank crew breakthrough Ardennes or "Battle of Singapore" where the mission as Japanese Soldier attacking from Malaya (Malaysia)
While the SBD with a bomb load was no match for a Zero, once it was free of its cargo it became, not an equal, but an opponent not to be underestimated, several accounts of the day have Japanese CAP Zero's chasing SBD's after their runs and not being able to down them.
SBDs were used as emergency fighters, mainly to intercept japanese strike aircraft. Although not super common, more than a few cocky Zero pilots have ended up in front of the sights of a desperate Dauntless pilot and paid the price.
@@jeremyweaver7689 Not in a dogfight with literally tens of Zeros on air, and also loaded. SBD Dauntless can be used as emergency fighter... but not in a populated dogfight like Midway, its literally suicide
No dive bomber pilot would close their canopy before diving on their target. They would want it to be open to avoid the glass fogging up with condensation from the humidity. I even do this practice when playing War Thunder
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 Not the Air Corps, the newer USAAF. I don't know why they would be on a carrier in this mission, but the Air Forces are referenced a couple of times in the level.
I either got to stop worrieing about historical accuracy or stop liking COD, but is someone who love the sbd and loves to study the battle of midway, this is both very cinematic and hurts to whatch
No game will ever get historical accuracy correct, even games like HLL and Post Scriptum have very minute things wrong with them that aren’t accurate to the game. HLL’s M1A1 Thompson has an improper iron sight and Post Scriptum has a scoped rifle is in every squad (regardless of faction), when it was a platoon level weapon at most.
Why all the complaining about historical accuracy? Its an entertainment product. Enjoy it for what it is. Big loud and exciting. If you want accuracy watch a documentary.
I'm starting to wonder how the fuck sledgehammer is still alive at this point, fuckin Activision and IGN should've just closed them instead and put the staffs to Infinity Ward or Treyarch
@@dl0g09 I agree on some parts except the "CoD Ghost" part, the multiplayer might've suckass but the campaign is actually Black Ops level of campaign, it's great and it's kind of a shame they let it on a cliffhanger
@@anthonymolina7416 depends on the branch. Air Force calls them CSO (pronounced "sizo") for Combat Systems Officer and thr Navy calls them WSO (pronounced "wizo") for Weapons Systems Officer. But whatever the fuck they're called, there was absolutely no reason players couldn't be the one flying the jet in that mission.
Why is the gunner (enlisted) calling the pilot (officer) by his last name? And why is the guy briefing a bunch of Navy Lieutenants an Army Staff Sergeant?
Is the carrier the Enterprise or Yorktown?
Yorktown. They mention Fighting Squadron 6 which was on the Yorktown.
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 wow how can u khow that ?
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 poor yorktown sunk by enemies submarine:(
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 but hey in the first scene i see 2 two aircraft carrier going together so its may be the enterprise or hornet because the yorktown is depart after them and its just go alone, right??
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 fighting squadron 6 was Enterprise. But I think Wade's carrier was Yorktown CV5.
wow... once the divebomber takes off, all historical accuracy just goes right out the window
Before that even actually
@@hollowvoices1268 when i heard of this mission i want a midway like the movie midway.
@@hollowvoices1268 Imagine how boring would that be there's a reason why COD 2 Introduced Health Regeneration.
@@ChandranPrema123 no one's talking about health regeneration, it's the whole mission that is a giant bs
@@sledgetype0029 its a game, even captain price lived from 1945 to 2015 without aging
In real life if you shoot like that, your ammo would be depleted in the first minute .
Yeah, you had to shoot in short bursts. And I love how this mission has unlimited ammo
Well that and in real life zeros weren't high enough to contest dive bombers on the first wave. They were too busy finishing off the poor bastards in the torpedo planes. On the second wave they were high enough but the dive bombers were largely uncontested on their dive.
In real life you wouldnt respawn in real life you wouldnt be able to pause
Current jets yes. In a nutshell. But older air planes especially from ww2 era? Maybe not. These jets are 100% different than the modern ones.
Who cares its an FPS. Realism isn’t an objective in a CoD game.
Love the fact that the gunner is telling the Pilot how to fly
And the gunner is an enlisted man ordering an officer around
Can you imagine the back pain the gunner must have had from constantly having his torso twisted so he could see where they were going xD
lol
It's a tutorial
Backseat driver
“This is insane. Where are they all coming from?”
I dunno maybe the two carriers you flew over?
Weren't there four Japanese carriers at midway, Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu and Soryu?
@@raichu0479 but I think they sank the last two before or another fleet took em out
It's referencing the fact they would have come from the other 2 carriers
@@raichu0479 yep
@@cristobalalvarez5491 they all came from the same fleet, but various carriers at this time in the history of the us navy didn't coordinate. Their dive bombers and torpedo planes just flew off in various directions hoping to find the Japanese fleet, that's why the Japanese were hit at various times, by multiple squadrons, and from multiple directions.
I like how the US cruisers are missing all their turrets
Yea I noticed that 😑
Nice spot!
Not rly much they can do when the enemy planes are attacking them except hope for the best
It’s the logical next step after they removed the torpedo tubes
@@multikings20 designed by apple California?
People in the comments rightfully celebrate the historic accuracy of this, I feel like this teaches us how it really felt like for those Luftwaffe pilots attacking Pearl Harbor.
@@slawekbober2422 I believe the gentleman is employing a touch of sarcasm.
Luftwaffe pilots attacking pearl harbour? Are you on crack?
Wtf
An event that was followed by the nucler bombing of Munich and Dusseldorf
@@Spiriluli haha
me as a war thunder player : wow... DIveBomber plane dogfighting a zero wow
And flying with a flame on the wings, if that was me I would be dead for sure
you also should be like: wow... MiG-21 outmaneuvering F-4... wow...
xDDD
Me as an IL-2 player: *sips my drink while getting flashbacks*
*Laughs in Stuka with Gun pods*
@@Max-il5vh laugh in ki 109 with tank cannon
"Move forward to pull up"
Every Aviation fan: *cringe*
I hate inverted controls on controller games. But when its aircraft. Its easy to remember 😆
@@AkagiZillo15 i still don't get how it can be easier lmao. Ever since bf3, my brain just can't do it inverted
@@222tg_ idk, maybe cause we knew how it works irl
The controls are like straight from mobile flight simulator lmfao
@@222tg_ I cant do inverted as an Ace Combat fan
"Battle of Midway"
expectation : _Dick Best_
reality : _not so accurate_
Its pretty much inspired from the movie midway
@@thefaithfulwisp6272 yeah lol
@@thefaithfulwisp6272 midway was actually accurate
@@phoenix-2467 it is but i cant say its 100% accurate though it is inspired from midway thats for sure
@@thefaithfulwisp6272 atleast they tried cod just said plane boats carrier boom epic pandeho haha funny
Among those stationed there are the crews of US Navy Black Cat.
Men who would risk everything before they would leave any of us in enemy waters...
ahh, a man of culture
*Queue the pby black cats fast tempo drum roll*
I really liked that mission more than this, maybe
@@user-joe443 waw was just so much grittier. It's gotten to the point where I can't even describe how but the atmosphere in that game is second to none. Even the Black Cat mission felt like a hopeless ordeal and pure chaos. This though... Idk, looks boring, enjoying enough to watch tho lol
Call of Duty has lost hammerhead > ; (
When a Dauntless "WITH BOMB ATTACHED" can outmaneuver zero fighters..... only in Call of Duty
@Goosa Poosa No it most certainly could not
@Goosa Poosa Nope, in 1vs1 combat Dauntless would be a sitting duck for even medium-skilled Zero pilot...
@Goosa Poosa can an F4F out turn a zero?
@Goosa Poosa was it after he dropped his 500 pound bomb
@Goosa Poosa no it couldn’t, take it from a actual pilot one miracle instance doesn’t make it better the a6m2/5 will fly circles around a dauntless, it can out climb out turn and out gun a spd. throw the 2 into a same altitude situation with a 1 or 2 circle fight unless that tail gunner has the aim of Chris Kyle the spd is a sitting duck hints why a lot of the times they would be escorted by wildcats or hellcats, it’s a purpose built dive bomber not a fighter
Out of every youtuber that played this mission has failed by killing and smashing into their allies, but this guy can aim and actually play the mission without issue.
COD Logic: A SBD Dauntless (a Dive bomber) can get into pure pursuit and outrun FUCKING ZEROS
With 1 bomb strapped in the undercarriage....
@@sztypettto Only on one of the 4 japanese carriers on Midway can be plausible due to the design for the Hull and the deck (Kaga), and wasn't sunk by SBD´s from Yorktown, were from Enterprise (also the Model is from an Hiryuu Class, not the Kaga)
Actually during coral seas USN assigned some sbd in CAP to protect the carriers and 1 sbd shot down 3 zeroes
@@xXFlameHaze92Xx babe calm down honey
@@mtf-alpha-1 - stfu. He's talking sense.
As a World War II TH-camr who likes focusing on the Pacific Theater, I have to say it’s cool to see this being shown in big budget games. I hope it interests more people in the topic!
Although watching this gave me a headache from the historically accurate side of things, I will say the models looked pretty good and never thought I’d see a high-def version of a Yorktown-class carrier hangar and flight deck in a game.
They’ve made quite a few big budget games that focus on the pacific
@@ajdecker9375I was a big fan of World at War and especially the Black Cats mission. I meant to say the naval aviation side of things… which I get is tough due to it being a FPS
They missed more zeros and more caos in the bombings i think
Agreed. I was a huge Midway buff as a kid 40 some odd years ago. There's a lot wrong with who was where when. For instance it's not that the fighter support wasn't there yet, it had already been drawn off. Midway was mostly a study in how planning is essential, plans are useless and outrolling the other side for luck can have huge implications. Still pretty cool from a game visual perspective.
What do you mean, the Dauntless was clearly the best fighter of WW2, superior to the zero in a dogfight. Too bad the American navy only used them for dive bombing. =P
Midway was such an amazing battle in WW2. Dont forget our Navy was almost destroyed after 12/7 and in 1 battle just 6 months after Pearl Harbor we decimated Japan's Pacific fleet,the Kido Butai was the biggest naval power in the world. After Midway Japans navy never carried out an offensive operation again. We ripped the soul out of Japans Navy.
the "Japan never carried out another offensive operation" thing is a bit wrong imo, i mean didn't their surface fleet launch a night raid on ships after midway?
@@enterprism5298 the night raids are the nightmare but after british et al radar its bearable japanese also didnt know code talker us navy band broke the midway code, in contrast to german linguistics skills and the enigma arm race the latter could be seen definitively by ahoy yt channel vid
By the end of 1942 early 1943 the US had one carrier in pacific operation (borrowing one from the UK USS robin) while Japan had four. The US was not dominating the Pacific war by the end of 1942 and Midway did not result in loss of many experienced Japanese pilots most of whom were recovered, you also can't just ignore the Guadelcanel campaign of 1942 and its significance which was in its totality more significant than Midway. In reality the soul of the Japanese navy was still very much existed, literally a month after Midway the US navy suffered its naval worst defeat ever at Salvo Island losing 5 cruisers at once despite outnumbering the opponent, the soul crushing truly took place in the marianas in 1944.
Did u see the midway movie I got it for 3 is bucks the new one
@@Swift-mr5zi carriers are the principal strike weapon of a ww2 navy not cruisers and America literally gutted 2/3 of that strike force after that unfair sneak attack
It looks like a cool mission but they basically just gave the Battle of the Bulge mission from COD WW2 a new paint job with extra features
While simultaneously knocking off the jet mission from Battlefield 3.
No one cares, if we wanna be honest battlefield copied call of duty (2003) bf(2016)
@@JustAnotherFinger bf2002
@@JustAnotherFinger Bruh Battlefield Vietnam or 1942
Cap initial release date was 2016 for BfV
Feels like the 2019 "Midway" movie.
@Raymond Yee yeah me too
And Midway Turning Point from Blazing Angels.
Tbh, this kinda feels like a WW2 Bootleg of BF3's F18 Mission
Who’s seen Midway (1976) and Midway (2019)?
Except the movie was accurate
For all of the inaccuracies, it is actually really cool that the altimeter works at the start of the mission, but after taking damage, it doesn't. The needle is hanging free and swings left/right as the plane maneuvers.
The altimeter never made any sense throughout the entire segment, nor did the altitudes they did any of those things at - and the UI displayed 1700(ish) meters at one point, while the aircraft's altimeter displayed 1900ft. It basically didn't work from the very start - nor did they ever set it to begin with xD.
~ Speaking as an irritated pilot.
There were four Japanese carriers sunk during the battle, Akagi, Kaga, Sōryū, and Hiryū. The carrier which Wade successfully hit at the end could be Kaga.
Judging by the look of the flight deck, it could possibly be Kaga
Its Kaga. At 14:49 for a split second you can read the Japanese alphabet for "Ka" at the stern of the ship
The one that hit Akagi is Best and his wingman.
Modeler: How many Kongou-Class do you want in this scene?
Map Designer: YES
Except kaga sunk because of an ammo/fuel detonation
Gameplay=10/10
Historical accuracy = 0/10
You spent more time dogfighting rather than dive-bombing in this level. They should've switched perspectives between different pilots to give the player the proper experience.
@@BLUNTESSTBOOT233 this is the most accurate comment
Gameplay : 1/10
Atleast they are not fighting bf109s instead of zeros😂😂
Who cares? Read a history book? I’m a history buff and I watch videos, read documents, watch documentaries, read books and newspaper articles and I hear actual sources. I don’t come to play video games for historical accuracy, these are meant to be fun not realistic.
"As if this operation wasn't hard enough. Now the entire war is on the line?"
Yes, ensign.
That is what battles are for.
To affect the outcome of a war.
Say what you want about the historical inaccuracies or short campaign, but you can’t deny that this mission was pretty damn cool
It sucked on console. Couldn't hit a damn thing.
@@alastor8091 i think u might need to play more because it’s not that hard
@@kilgroyproductions1658 its the first time I've played an airplane like that. The one in Black Ops 2 was on rails. I didn't die, but it was kind of frustrating because the Zeroes maneuvered so well and Wade's plane felt like trying to turn a heavy shopping cart. If I was better at flying I would've liked it, but I think I only killed like 6 Zeroes in that whole mission.
@@alastor8091 i get that but i also think they made it that way because that’s how it was a zero was a light single seat aircraft while in that mission ur flying a big ass sbd dauntless i think them doing that was their way of trying to make it more historically accurate i agree overall the campaign wasn’t that good i expected better not an intro into ops
@@alastor8091 play battlefield 5 if u want decent flying on console in ww2 not the best but pretty fun if u put in some work
Alright, I'm gonna play the Campaign myself, and play the Battotai Drip song while playing this mission and flying in the skies.
Screw battotai
Wild Blue Yonder is what its all about.
@@kennedy072 0 Beat drop, besides that's for the airforce.
@@kennedy072 Bruh i know that song and it sucks like SHIET
Then shout TENNO HEIKA BANZAI
Hell naw bro you may end up summoning Hirohito and Yamamoto
Whether historically accurate or not this mission rocks. End of story
The music is fantastically well made gave me some serious goose bumps.
For sure. Love the sounds of the zeros, even the effects of them going down
For sure. Love the sounds of the zeros, even the effects of them going down
This mission looks like it'd be awesome, if I could simply get past the initial dive bombing part. I'll drop the bomb and the boat literally sucks me down to it lmao. I'll be about 30 meters up and then I'll body slam right into the ship by going straight down. I think my game may be bugged.
This shit makes me cringe. Nothing about it rocks.
Those divebombing Dauntlesses gave me chills...
isnt that sb2c helldiver
@@rizfasuhendra997 no it's SBD Dauntless
@@rizfasuhendra997 Dauntless. The wings can be bended.
@@beren1898 can’t the F4U Corsair also fold wings ?
@@nicholasthuya7683 Hmmm... I don't remember there are F4U back in Midway battle. But you can correct me if I'm wrong.
It's been a long time since "Doyle, get back on the Dorsal turret"
"Skipper!"
"Take out those PT boats!"
Wait wrong game
Except back then it was actually good
@@nicksiegfried4906 That mission was probably the best of the entire franchise
@@bravo4683 If you're eleven years old and haven't played prior to Black Ops IIII.
Honestly, the mission concept and the graphics is great, but they should make the plot based on the real Battle of Midway. The intro cutscene is pretty much right though, but they should have added the squadron of TBD Devastators attacking the fleet (this isn't necessary), but it starts wrong from 7:58 onwards. Here's my suggestion for a better concept of this mission: First, the first Japanese carrier to be hit by a bomb in the battle was the Kaga (the second carrier in the mission), and then the Soryu (the aircraft carrier was the first to be bombed in the mission was the Soryu), no air battle was shown between the sinking of the Soryu and the attacks on the remaining carriers. The Dauntless Squadron began diving bombs on the Akagi (offscreen in game) after that. After the Akagi was sunk, they should at least make a cutscene of the Japanese attack on the USS Yorktown. Before the attack on the Hiryu (offscreen in game) begins, the player will deal with the Zero squadron. After finishing the wave of aerial attacks, the player will dive bomb the Hiryu and the mission is over (Honestly, this will make the mission longer and more challenging like the Black Cats in World at War). Second, like everyone said, Dauntless can't outrun Zero.
Edit: The cutscene starts at 14:49 is one of the best cutscenes in the CoD series, but was made for such a historical inaccurate WW2 game (i know this is just a game).
I like that Japanese carriers had a huge red dot like it was meant to be aimed and shot at by dive bombers.
I think they really had them. Represents Rising Sun.
@@ColourlessRainb0W
Yeah but only three
The Sōryū
The Akagi
And the Kaga, but for that ship, it's only the circle instead of the entire Japanese flag
@@ColourlessRainb0W yep that was a real thing and this mission is based off the guy who did this in real life. One thing this game got right
It was the rising sun symbol that was put on some Japanese ships, and apparently some pilots actually used it as a guide marker to drop their bombs
@@Gen_ShadowCompany_203 Actually, all Japanese carriers had the red sun on their carriers. Hiryu had it as well, so did Zuikaku and Shokaku
Game - yea the Americans all launched at the same time in a coordinated wave of aircraft that wiped out the Japanese fleet.
Reality - the Americans all launch at different times and in some cases different directions. Catching the Japanese of guard by accident and sheer luck.
I mean it’s still a good game but I wish they would input some of these details 👍
*Cough* there's IL-2 for that. But real life warfare is more Engineering and science than hollywood heroism. Then again which American kid has the patience to sit through a 5-7 hour mission? Mission's not over when there are explosions. You have to bring that plane back in one piece.
@@sztypettto Sadly. But CoD and most shooters are more about flash and pew pew than actual tactics or realism.
agreed this is an extremely lazy take on the Battle of Midway.
@@dasbubba841 we have movies for that
@@doducduy96 how about you shut your mouth this is call of duty do you expect them to be realistic
As I watch this game play, I think of my uncle Keith, Lt. j.g. in the U.S. Navy during world war 2. He flew a Corsair fighter off the U.S.S. Hornet (CV-12). He lived until he was 90 years old. A happy-go-lucky fellow, always with the smile and the laughter when our family gathered together. I miss him.
He will forever be a hero! Rest in peace❤️
So what? Why you even posted this? Leave from youtube and post in other sites.
@@heemdoctah Ok and?
@Bennett S One one will help you in real life. So go to play fortnite, kid.
may he rest in peace, pal.
Yea, cod throws accuracy and realism out of the window, i don't think they even tried this time
has cod ever tried ?
@@AFGuidesHD i would argue world at war so, yea. Made me change the way i thought about war as a kid
@@loyalpiper WaW was not that better in those aspects though. What it had though was great atmosphere, and far less Hollywood shlock.
Who needs accuracy and realism ?
@@goy0551 If we’re talking about the biggest world conflict in history we would love realism and accuracy because nowadays these types of realistic historical games are made for us to experience. This game however just mocks the whole setting.
The starting prep of the aircraft reminds me of the battlefield 3 F18 mission
Yeah same they copied it definitely I can tell you that
Fr
Also the "cat" lunch... no sbd ever would speed up like that, not with the carrier speeding and with a head wind
It is it
Thought the same
So happy and proud to see a lot of people here more focused on the historical and technical inaccuracies of this battle.
This campaign really had a potential to either do again old good 2-3 separate small campaings like in bulk of WW2 themed old CoD games, or do something simillar to BF1/V singleplayer format. The execution of this multinational special force is just too ludicrous and underdeveloped. They really wanted too hard to combine it with this new CoD universe where everything is interconnected.
Do you think COD WW2 Campaigns should be like the War Stories of Battlefield 1?
@@hadihambali1627 Their WW2 campaign should be like the first two COD games
You gotta admit that the goosebumps were worth it
@@hadihambali1627 I enjoyed the formula, both in Battlefield 1 and V, not necessarily campaigns themselves. From V for example I only liked one. And with how this Vanguard made it's campaign, I would far more prefer if they removed that entire multinational squad of super soldiers fairy tale and simply made small, contained stories set around events present in flashbacks which make bulk of campaign.
@@marinousmonk8605 Not really.
Gotta love that New Orleans class CA missing all its turrets…
There was nothing more beautiful than 5:32
This pales in comparison to Battlestations Pacific. That was a class, historically accurate Pacific theatre based war game.
Arcade ww2 tho
Never heard of it, must be ass
@@Matt-uk7zq still best WW2 naval combat game
@@ghostarmy1106 yeah bc the category is too niche. I always wished the game was remastered with a few balance tweaks
@@AlexanderRodriguez-lm1qw or you're just ignorant.
It seems this took inspiration from the style of the 2019 Midway film. But, it has none of the historical accuracy of that film (as far vents and people involved) but it shares many of the technical inaccuracies of that film and adds some of its own (ships being too close to each other, inaccurate models and unrealistic dive bombinng etc). But its just a COD game at the end of the day. If they made it 100% realistic, it probably wouldn't be very exciting as in this video game format.
The good news is that the real battle is actually several times more interesting. There are several amazing books and audio books and lectures on youtube. I recommed Shattered Sword by Jonathan Parshal and Anthony Tully as probably the most detailed account of the battle.
Agreed, not the best depiction of history
The 2019 Midway film is light years ahead in terms of historical accuracy compared to this game(The amount of Flak is what bothered me).
@@BLUNTESSTBOOT233 yeah, but I think the Midway film had too much flak too. Or too many planes shot down by it. If I remember right I think only 1 plane, or maybe only 2, was confirmed to have been shot down by Japanese flak at Midway. The majority of Americans lost at Midway were due to the Japanese combat air patrol fighters instead.
I dont know if you already played the game, but holy shit did they threw historical accuracy out of the window in this game.....is like they didnt even try...japanese soldiers with STG44, MG42 and MG34....you fight in midway, get shot down and somehow crash in papa new guinea..the only thing missing was a Tiger tank with japanese camo while fighiting in Canada with stukas flying around
@@j3cu ofc they wouldnt give them their arisakas that would take too much time lol, and yeah and theyre gonna do that might aswell make the germans fight alongside the japanese even though there was no recorded stuff of them fighting together, bruh they were fighting west of midway islands but they crash landed on papa guena? Thats so far from midway and you would have already crashed to the ocean before you could make it to papa
If anyone wonders. The two carriers sunk in this video are the IJN Akagi and IJN Kaga.
There were two others but not sunk in this video: IJN Souryuu and IJN Hiryuu
It's more likely Kaga and Soryu as they where the 2 most heavily damaged.
Someone said that in this mission you take off from Yorktown, which would mean that the only carrier you should have attacked was Sōryū. But then again this is CoD so who knows
@@adezzz7896 Nah the carrier you take off from is Enterprise.
The carrier is Enterprise (3:41, number"6" on the bridge), and the plane's number starts with a S, therefore it's VS-6. He hit Soryu first (bridge on the right, two stacks), dogfighted for five minutes, climbed into the clouds, and miraculously reloaded (Warthunder arcade mode? lol) and dropped another 1000lb on Kaga (bridge on the right, single stack, and "ka" written on the deck). The 100lbs on the wings somehow stayed there despite the planes weren't equipped with them IRL due to range and performance issues. It's funny because in real life the guy who sunk two carriers in one day was from the other squadron, VB-6 not VS-6. And the two carriers he hit were Akagi and Hiryu, not the two in game. And even then the game hit Soryu and Kaga in reverse order of what happened in real life. This somehow managed to be worse than the shitshow of a CGI movie Midway.
Also I like how the rear seat gunner is calling out the altitude...
Yep the person was Richard "Dick" Best I remmember. SBD's did carry 1,000 pounders but it could only carry one under the belly for enought support, and imited its range significantly.
Was midway really that bad?
War thunder arcade mode when you play the pacific campaign on easy
@@ryanc5195 The problem was the two extra 100lbs on the wings. The SBDs only carried a single 1000lb for anti-ship duties, as the extra 100lbs would reduce its range and therefore is reserved for mostly CAS against smaller ground targets.
Holy duck someone actually complaining about historical facts on a video game not meant to be historical and more to arcade, Jesus Christ some are just brain numb. Go back to your history channel if you want that or stick to historical TH-cam channel for that dim wit
Meanwhile despite inhaling defective oxygen from his dive bomber, Richard Best continues his the attack on the Japanese fleet
Named Best for a reason.
his boldness, determination and utter disregard for his personal safety, helped turn the tide of the war on the pacific
He never flew again.
Historical inaccuracies aside, this was my favorite mission.
I tried to enlist in the navy, and this made be fan boy like I had a snake in my boot
“You just put the meat in between those buns, and that burger is well done”
"Weren't we serving a sandwich?"
@@rako1325 "I'm happy to eat both"
didnt expect ace combat here lmao
@@dragonweezle4876 "whatever you say man..."
"Now make like Trigger and serve up a sandwich"
Flying a SBD , Killed dozens of Zero (with bomb attached) and blew up a carrier on first run , keep on killing dozens of Zero and blew up a carrier on second run ...
This guy gonna get the Medal of Honour after return to the carrier deck...
Well that's why Arthur said that Wade like to exaggerate his story... a little.
They can do graphics, but gameplay-wise?
In Ramsay's words: "it's fucking bland".
I totally agree, game looks outstanding but gameplay is just quite sad. For example in the North African mission there was a German soldier using a STG44...
Their graphic also like shxt idk why
"This is for Pearl"
Dick Best was one of the most successful American pilots that ever destroyed two enemy carriers in one day.
Unfortunately due to breathing bad oxygen after the Americans won the battle, he never flew again.
@@StephenLuke it was said he and another pilot were the only ones who destroyed multiple carriers in one day, who was the other pilot?
@@ghostcreeper243 Clarence Dickinson I guess?
@@StephenLuke - yup that's what real life was like.
@@sztypettto Not only I know about Midway, but I know all about Pearl Harbor.
Honestly wish 2019s "Midway" showed the Wildcat's like they did here. I was very disappointed to not see them AT ALL in the movie.
I do to but it wouldn’t have been as cinematic yet pleasing. They had to make a reason for the us pilots have to truly fight for it.
Cause no wildcats were there only 2 were actually present during the battle and did little
Not only this is not close to movie, this was not even close to basic historical facts. It is Fast n Furious XL in the core with WWII as coating.
@@chongyulius exactly
@@keeganwatz7946 Between the Dauntless, Devastator, and Wildcat, the Dauntless was the only one that had a positive kill / death ratio in dogfights against the Zero. What it lacked in maneuverability, it compensated for in sheer durability.
The best mission in the entire game. I can't get enough of it. Thanks for posting it
Demi: What's the target!?
Bruni: The Pacific Fleet at Midway.
Once the phantom is engaged and our payload delivered, the Americans will have no choice but to retaliate. We will step aside as our enemies destroy each other and we will emerge on the right side of history.
Demi: Then you leave me no recourse.
Bruni: Recourse for what?
Demi: To take back my ship
Phantom 2013
Ed Harris as Demi
David Duchovny as Bruni
Somebody explain to me why the scene when planes go through the clouds and end up joining an entire formation of planes look so badass
Planes r dope
Would have made more sense in an action sense to stick the player in a Wildcat, but I guess they wanted the player to single handedly win the Battle of Midway.
Maybe they didn't because it was done in cod world at war
@@City0fTroy what do you mean? That was a totally different plane. They shouldve made this player get in a fighter plane rather than a dive bomber.
@@elkkukissa7883 Lol i was mistaken because the level was called black cats not wildcats my bad I dont know my ww2 aviation too in depth
In terms of cinematic presentation: very cool and awesome
Historical accuracy and logic: the fuck?
Love love love Bear McCreary's score right there at the last bombing run. Had me on the edge of my seat my first playthrough. Good video! 👍
@@sarahtakash I can see that. McCreary's score is probably my favorite thing about the game honestly aside from some of the campaign moments.
Beat McCreary doesn’t disappoint!! This is one of my favorite tracks from him. My favorite from this part has to be after you land your first bomb and enter the storm 8:58
Portrayal of Kaga's 2 story hangar decks at the end shows activision made some research about ships design. But in real Kaga had more wider and slightly higher hangar decks.
Why are ships literally on top of each other and not in battle formation? And, the Dauntlesses and Devastators launched completely sperate attacks. The SBDs got delayed and lost, but eventually found the carriers. The torpedo bombers where shot to shreds, almost all were lost.
They were facing many dive bombers and torpedoes they had to true avoid the bombs are torpedoes that's why there weren't in for formation
activision doesn't give a shit that's why
I love how he finally closes the canopy AFTER all the flak lmao
Captain american type
I believe they kept the canopy open during the dive to prevent it from fogging up. Not sure if that’s accurate however.
He kept the canopy open to avoid the glass from fogging up. The reason he closed it during the dive bombing was to prevent the open canopy from slowing the plane down.
As someone who is a fan of naval history and knows a lot about this battle, the inaccuracies just pisses me off.
Rant along with historical info:
The amount of planes that you shot down during this battle literally makes you a double or triple or idk Ace (a Flying ace is a credit given to a pilot who shoots down 5 or more enemy aircraft).
The dive bombers and torpedo bombers didn't attack the IJN fleet at the same time, the torpedo bombers arrive first and their attempt was a complete failure due to how terrible their planes and torpedoes are and the Zeroes shooting them down during their runs.
When the dive bombers attacked the IJN fleet, there were no Zeroes over the fleet since they were chasing down the retreating torpedo bombers.
During the battle, the dive bombers only had one bomb (even though the SBD can carry two bombs, they only used one so they can carry more fuel).
The fleet formation is soo incorrect, the ships are too close to each other, in real life they're more farther apart from each other so they can maneuver to avoid bombs and torpedoes.
During the dive bombing sequence, the Japanese carrier is soo slow to the point that they just want to die.
The developers reused many models (Kongo, Kaga, Akagi) on the IJN fleet to the point where their carriers look alike, and the overabundance of Kongo everywhere.
After dropping their bombs, SBDs would try and get out of the hailstorm of gunfire, not to try and become fighters (sure you can add the argument of "Swede" Vejtesa taking out 3 Zeroes in an SBD, but this is way more different as seen from this level).
I'm tired of ranting here but after seeing this, i kinda now appreciate the movie Midway (2019) even though its kinda boring and mediocre, at least its more accurate than this level.
On a side note, AFGuides I have no hate towards you, you do have some good content (especially the memes) i'm just complaining on how inaccurate this is.
Also sorry for some bad grammar and i may also have some things wrong, so if there are some things incorrect be sure to let me know.
its a game
As a fellow nerd of military history, I can't help but laugh in this game's inaccuracy.
Real war is boring. You wanna play a game where you fly for 4 hours straight only to die or miss go find something else to play. Games add dramatic flair to appeal to people wanting to have fun. You obviously don't wanna have fun.
Hah. I lost all confidence in modern" historical" shooters, at least the mainstream ones. Too much pandering to the woke crowd.
Games aren't supposed to carry the burden of being historically accurate, nobody has claimed this is the exact piece of history right here and besides games have lots of creative liberties for the sake of gameplay and gratification of players.
This feels like war thunder but more unrealistic
what's unrealistic?
@@Ceresxceres101 literally everything in this mission
@@theRealestsand what is it?
@@Ceresxceres101 everything
@@Ceresxceres101 for example, their plane should be trashed as f@ck after the first divebombing
Amazing that in 2021, CoD failed to replicate the feeling that Battlefield 3 nailed 10 years prior.
1:24 Why is there a US Army Air Corps sergeant on a US Navy carrier? At least they gave him the correct piping for his garrison cap if he is in the air corps, but everything else about that uniform. The research team DOES NOT deserve a raise.
There's a Army Air Corps guys with "PO2" on their names in the hangar bay too... lol.
You must have a really sad life to be this nitpicky
@@unseentable5217 how come a guy pointing out a histrocial inaccurate have a really sad life?
@@unseentable5217 nah
I had a feeling WW2 buffs would have a fun time picking out all the inaccuracies in this game.
This is the most innacurate version of the Battle of Midway i've ever seen, it's a disgrace. I'll just point out a few problems: Firstly, the american carrier screen is way too close to the carriers themselves. In real life, the carrier screen was formed of an outer ring of destroyers, a second closer ring of cruisers, and later on a last ring of battleships. Remember, the objective was to defend the carriers at all costs. Secondly, there wouldn't be any pre-flight checks and i don't think that the tower clears you for takeoff like modern days (copied from Battlefield 3.) Third, from the cockpit, the aircraft looks level with the carrier, whereas it should be at a higher angle than the deck, tailwheel. Forth, no attack group would ever huddle all of their aircraft together, the devastators were much slower than the dauntlesses, so the devastators took off first, and the dauntlesses took off later, the plan being for the dauntlesses to catch up to the devastators at the target. Fifth, the zeros appeared way too early, they should be defending their carriers, and where are the patrolling and maybe the escort wildcats? And it's clear that shooting down the zeros is literally a copy-paste of Cod WW2 where you're in the P-47, oh and the fact that your bombs replenish mid-air, seriously? You should be returning to the carrier for replenishment and refueling. Those are my major issues with this mission alone, but trust me, i have a lot more for the whole game, almost every mission.
Also another point to add besides every single thing that makes no sense as its really just a fantasy fever dream of a game set in WW2. Is that the whole hunt for the japanese carriers were a long fight and it took considerable effort and luck to destroy them. There was so many moments where the carriers got helluva lucky through using dodging tactics. Plus the americans lost ALOT of planes at first getting even anywhere near the carriers. I forgot the numbers but the kill ratio was on the japanese side for a while. And it was some really lucky and skilled pilots that managed to do the first hits which slowly added up until they had them in a unlucky situation where the carriers were in a spot they couldnt get out of. In short taking down the japanese carriers at midway was nothing short of alot of luck, effort and sheer stubborness on the american side.
It’s not that deep. At no point did they say this game would be historically accurate and cod releases a game every year so they don’t got time to put in every little detail. And nobody plays cod for historical accuracy, it’s an arcade shooter not a simulation. People who play cod, play for fun. I doubt they actually care about the inaccuracies the game has
@@papadrake7580 This is a WW2 game, need i say more? Historical Accuracy is paramount.
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We did have T-34/85 with main gun that shoot rounds every 3 secs in WAW and it still awesome. They are arcadey but retained some of the historical context there which i appreciated. But this, nah.
Also they hit Soryu and Kaga in the opposite order compared to what happened IRL.
Midway was my most favorite WW2 battle! I was so hyped to see how it'll go in Vanguard, and boy did it not disappoint!
Wait...when did Midway have rain, thunder and lightning?! That wasn't suppose to happen!😳
S18 has bombs.
S3 has BOAAAAAAAAAAAAMBS
Me: It’s a game just have fun with it
@@BellaZuikaku4785 Me: it can’t be fun when it’s a whole lotta fake contrived bullshit
@@BellaZuikaku4785 Me: Just "because it's a game" doesn't give you a perfect excuse to completely ruin and fill an already amazing historical event with unnecessary random ass bullshit. Many games from the past had already proven that one can still go the exaggerated route while being historically authentic enough that it doesn't disrespect the people from the real event and melt historians' brains. I don't hate this mission though, it's the least retarded among all the other missions of this dumpster fire of a game.
Hey, chill! All I'm saying was that I absolutely adored the Battle of Midway. So when I saw that this mission was going to be in a Call of Duty game, I was happy, surprised, and…all around excited. But to be honest, I didn't know if it did actually rain during the battle, soo…rain in Midway seemed new. Random, but new.
Fun fact: Mexico send a airforce to the Philippine in 1945 since they join the war in 1942. Also they are the only country to protest Auschluss
Those guys flew P-47s, cool stuff
Thank God this is meant for entertainment purposes only, as this mission is a massively inaccurate presentation of the Battle of Midway. Here's my list I noticed:
1. The Japanese and American fleets must have been only a few miles from each other, as it takes no time to get to the enemy fleet. It took over 2 hours in real life.
2. Apparently, the Dauntless dive bomber is just as agile as the Japanese A6M Zero and has unlimited ammunition. Jackson would be the actual reason the Japanese fleet was destroyed, not the blazes caused by the bombs.
3. Dive bombers apparently are responsible for protecting torpedo planes, not fighters.
4. Japanese ships apparently don't shoot at any American aircraft below 2000 feet.
5. Jackson's Dauntless apparently has 2 500 lb bombs instead of the possible lone one carried below the fuselage. Did he drop his 500 lb bomb on one carrier and his wing bombs on the other?
6. Only 2 pilots at Midway, Norman "Dusty" Kleiss and Richard "Dick" Best, hit 2 aircraft carriers during the battle. Kleiss hit Kaga and Hiryu while Best hit Akagi and Hiryu.
The best in COD plane missions is that you don't need to find the enemy...
The fog always bring the enemy directly to you 🎯
The most realistic thing is how easy to shoot down a Zero, she's like flying gasoline lol
Fr those tin cans lit up like a matchstick when it got hit by a single 50 cal round in war thunder
😂😂😂 Zero basically giant paper plane with engine and LOTS of oil.
Sure it give them great turn rate but it's slow and the climb rate isn't that good, it can't go at high speed cause the if it did the ailerons became unresponsive
Anime is explosive.
Yeah they might have manuverability but they lacked armour compared to German air craft
Now i know why would they kamikaze 🐧
Someone was heavily inspired by ''Going Hunting'' from Battlefield 3 and it wasn't bad, I would like to see BF doing it in current engines as well as COD
It was absolutely terrible, and this mission is no better.
It’s like releasing the brakes on that plane released historical accuracy along with it
Glad to know that the Call of Duty franchise didn't leave out the Pacific campaign of WW2. In fact the Americans were more engaged towards the Pacific rather than in Europe.
Wish they actually did other allies like the Chineses
They just wanted to recreate the flight mission from BF3 but from a different era, with historical inaccuracy
To depict whole Battle of Midway the mission should last equally 10 hours.
Now imagine the stalingrad mission
Rests are to the bin. This woudl be perfect as 1 big 10 hour Midway game. @yannmalfrait3235
I'm am thoroughly and pleasantly surprised at the ship and plane accuracy...fully expected Iowas, Yamatos, Essexs, hellcats, etc. The gameplay, well, it's call of duty so no surprises there.
Agreed the models are actually quite accurate to say the least. During the battle of midway the U.S didn't have many any battleships present. The largest ship they had were the carriers and cruisers. And the class of cruiser portrayed here is a new orleans class heavy cruiser which is also accurate. Although the ships are way too close to eachother but that is somewhat excusable since they wanted the scene to be more cinematic. One thing that bothers me is that the american cruisers are missing their gun turrets. Maybe the mission is unpolished im not sure but if you look hard enough you will notice that the gun turrets are missing.
On the Japanese side its also accurate. The Japanese did have battleships present along with cruisers and destroyers. The ships modeled here are also accurate since from what I can gather the models are either from the Nagato, Kongou, Fusou or ise class battleships. Yamato was present during the battle but was part of a separate fleet of warships meant to engage with the American fleet in a surface engagement. So props to the COD team in making the models accurate
Thank you for this! I dont have any gaming consoles so watching these is all I have. Epic, thank you!
9:36 "This is insane, where are they all comming from?"
Dude you see those carriers? LOL
CoD always takes references from movies, like Midway
Midway was way more realistic than this piece of garbage mission
@@reg1mbald294 hun calm down come here lets cuddle
@@reg1mbald294 why so toxic. This is just a video game not some ww2 time machine.
@@amei653 it’s a ww2 video game that does everything but get ww2 right and it’s disappointing like bruh I wanna play a game about ww2 and then they release this game that just feels like it’s mocking ww2
@@VitoScaletta1951 say that to BF5
I'm sorry but like, this presentation of the battle for Midway is just.... bad, i think if Activision really wanted to copy Battlefield on something, it shouldn't have been that flight check cameo that is better in execution and presentation but rather the opening of Battlefield 1 where if you die, your perspective switches to another pilot or rear gunner to empathize the lethality of dive bombing into flak fire rather than getting more Japanese kills in a single flight than most aces. Instead this just looks like something i'd see in a arcade machine, follow a scripted sequence, fly around in circles and shoot the same, uninteresting enemies at what's meant to feel like high speeds but in reality, just feel slow and sluggish from both Zero's and the aircraft your flying. I understand its not mean to be a milsim but actually respecting the events rather than this romanticized attempt of one of the most important battles within the Pacific Theatre, in respect to the companies American ancestors who some may of been there themselves (The Ancestors not the peeps in charge) at the battle of midway. If this is meant to be a highlight of Vanguard then its high time they should get someone different to direct the games.
Isn't this a sledgehammer production?
@@shura426 Activision still run the COD franchise as a whole, they overseer all production of the COD games, Sledgehammer simply are just a dedicated studio.
@@ami6272 Thanks for the correction.
Activision are trynna copy everything from bf5
@@ami6272 Its arguably one of the best campaign moments, really makes you realize that they were in the shit and no plot armor was coming to save you, in the campaigns words "You are not expected to surivive".
I'm just here to appreciate the ace job Bear McCreary did on the soundtrack. The music going into the dive is amazing
I remember the great battle between MY TEAM vs ENEMY TEAM. It was in my history book in high school
The lightings are really amazing in Vanguard
Damn, never heard of Call Of Duty Vanguard before. I'm not expecting COD franchise would make battle of Midway mission, this is awesome. I hope they make axis side campaign like "Battle of France" where the mission as Guderian's tank crew breakthrough Ardennes or "Battle of Singapore" where the mission as Japanese Soldier attacking from Malaya (Malaysia)
SBD-2’s dogfighting with zeros
This game really confuses me on to how historically inaccurate they can make this game
Swede Vejtesa did just that, downed three Zeros on one mission and even cut off one of the Zero’s wing in a midair collision.
While the SBD with a bomb load was no match for a Zero, once it was free of its cargo it became, not an equal, but an opponent not to be underestimated, several accounts of the day have Japanese CAP Zero's chasing SBD's after their runs and not being able to down them.
SBDs were used as emergency fighters, mainly to intercept japanese strike aircraft. Although not super common, more than a few cocky Zero pilots have ended up in front of the sights of a desperate Dauntless pilot and paid the price.
@@jeremyweaver7689 Not in a dogfight with literally tens of Zeros on air, and also loaded. SBD Dauntless can be used as emergency fighter... but not in a populated dogfight like Midway, its literally suicide
Guys this is an alternative universe. Don't worry bout realism and historical accuracy too much. This is pretty much our imaginations running wild
tHiS iS aN aLtErNaTiVe UnIvErSe GuYs
I like how he gets hit 200 times by 50mm AA and doesnt die and how the Zeros cant manage to kill him xD
No dive bomber pilot would close their canopy before diving on their target. They would want it to be open to avoid the glass fogging up with condensation from the humidity. I even do this practice when playing War Thunder
I do the same when blow drying my hair!
1:25 Should I ask why there is a Staff Sgt on a Navy ship?? Also, 14:33 Punching out? With what ejection system?
i think he just like, nopped out, he didnt bailed
I think he's part of the old Army Air Forces on the carrier, not the Navy.
@@toptart4925 Why would the Army Air Corps be on a carrier????
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 Not the Air Corps, the newer USAAF. I don't know why they would be on a carrier in this mission, but the Air Forces are referenced a couple of times in the level.
I either got to stop worrieing about historical accuracy or stop liking COD, but is someone who love the sbd and loves to study the battle of midway, this is both very cinematic and hurts to whatch
No game will ever get historical accuracy correct, even games like HLL and Post Scriptum have very minute things wrong with them that aren’t accurate to the game.
HLL’s M1A1 Thompson has an improper iron sight and Post Scriptum has a scoped rifle is in every squad (regardless of faction), when it was a platoon level weapon at most.
@@edm240b9 still, being this wrong just hurts
Mission insane, I love missions that involve planes and air combat. Will it have a new vide of all Call of Dutys plane missions? Haha ha
Play warthunder bruh it’s way better than this lmao
@@botslayer0260 project wingman and ace combat will have a word with you
It is a FPS focused game, you won't want a good flight experience on GTA-like game
@@OP4455OP i want a good flight experience in gta, dogfighting aircraft near the fort sounds cool
@@ballsdeep7056 bruh I’m sure they are better but are they free tho?
Typical cod, dog fighting in a dive bomber...
try heroes of the pacific man...
You never see me in wt where i keep on doing dogfights even in a big bomber
@@mio2344 I prefer playing this other than World of warplanes.., god dammit
@sniper monkey nah he plays test flight
@sniper monkey no I don't play arcade controls.
Why all the complaining about historical accuracy? Its an entertainment product.
Enjoy it for what it is. Big loud and exciting.
If you want accuracy watch a documentary.
The New Orleans Class Heavy Cruiser (Bottom right) at 4:47 has no guns on it
Jesus this game looks shit.
at 4:50 You can see the circular area where the first tower should be ,Somedoby Didn't notice that
Why did the American warships have no guns
@@lucasfan5558 no, the New Orleans Class has an AB X Gun Layout, meaning that space is meant for the B Gun
Damn the campaign is good
I just hate the ending part
In 3 minutes you just became the highest scoring dive bomber pilot in history.
The plane check part looks familiar...very familiar indeed...
I wonder which game i saw that...
It's literally a WW2 Bootleg of BF3's F18 Mission
Battlefield 3
I'm starting to wonder how the fuck sledgehammer is still alive at this point, fuckin Activision and IGN should've just closed them instead and put the staffs to Infinity Ward or Treyarch
the whole mission is a giant battlefield 3 and Midway 2019 ripoff lol
@@dl0g09 I agree on some parts except the "CoD Ghost" part, the multiplayer might've suckass but the campaign is actually Black Ops level of campaign, it's great and it's kind of a shame they let it on a cliffhanger
This is cool, but waw’s mission ‘Black Cats’ is still my favourite.
O U R favourite
@@Apa6-May3ep the fucking soundtrack slaps man
GET THOSE FUCKING PT BOATS
アメリカの飛行機も綺麗だなぁ。
American planes are also beautiful.
Tail Gunner asking pilot to do flight checks reminds me of BF3's F-18 Mission
At least they let you flt the plane in this mission. You didn't even get to fly the plane in BF3, they just stuck you in the back seat
@@TheRestrictedgamer yeah I think the backseat is called weapons officer
@@anthonymolina7416 depends on the branch. Air Force calls them CSO (pronounced "sizo") for Combat Systems Officer and thr Navy calls them WSO (pronounced "wizo") for Weapons Systems Officer. But whatever the fuck they're called, there was absolutely no reason players couldn't be the one flying the jet in that mission.
@@TheRestrictedgamer yeah flying it would be fun
ahh, it's the battlefield 3 F18 Hornet mission, but in ww2. Exactly the same.
Except at least battlefield 3 had somewhat of a realistic and accurate experience
Yea bro it literally shot for shot too🤣they really trying to be bf now aren't they
5:47 I like how you can literally see the zeros spawn in, like that surprise attack was so BS that they had to just spawn them in the middle.
Why is the gunner (enlisted) calling the pilot (officer) by his last name? And why is the guy briefing a bunch of Navy Lieutenants an Army Staff Sergeant?