As a side note to my fellow death knights, anti magic shell negates the debuff from the mushrooms in underrot's 2nd boss. It negates 4 mushrooms so you can pop AMS and clear 4 mushrooms if your group is struggling with it or just to make the run go more smoothly
Solid guide, looking forward to trying some of this tech! A couple errors I noticed: - For Gulping Goliath, a player still needs to soak Gulp even if frog adds are in the circle. It says right on the tooltip you showed, he will become Hangry if he does not find a player in it. Usually it's best if a tank soaks it in my experience, but it doesn't do much damage so really anyone can do it unless already low HP or at high stacks of the poison debuff. - In Uldaman, the Mind Soothe on the last 2 trash mobs isn't required to skip them. It's a nice precaution, but a group without a SP can still walk around no problem after hopping up or using a gate.
There is a reason why Mage and Shadow Priest are completely dominating at top in mythic +. with holy paladin for heal + support stuff, and Guard druid, + augvoker. They have highest dps + survivability, AND can do fun tricks. And Blizzard still say: Bring the player not the class............... None of the other classes can even come close due to lacking skills for the class, and/or severely behind in dps to compensate.
right from the get go I know for a fact that not only CDs that are 3 minutes or higher can refund CD upon entering the key, Abom Limb on all DKs resets its CD too tho its useful only on blood to get 9 bone shield charges from the get go
I dont think the pre dungeon CD thing works for warlocks because your infernal/darkglare/tyrant is considered a summon and all summons are dismissed when a keystone starts. However there are a few dots that warlocks can cheese through using soulburn + demonic circle. Such as the deep chill debuff from the dragons in halls of infusion and timesink from chrono lord deios in uldaman. Because theyre considered slows if you set up your demonic circle and then use soulburn before teleporting to your circle it makes you immune to snares which removes the dot. It can save you from taking a good chunk of damage in groups where you dont have a mass dispel available.
Naraxas spiked tongue can be cheeses by moving to the left and behind the boss. There are some rocks there that will achieve the same thing as the eggs and it is doable with all clases.
you failed to mention that frost shock and focused deluge reflects can and should stil be done even if warrior is dps. taunt reflect have tank taunt back. this method works in nelth lair on 2nd boss you can taunt and reflect sunder everytime reflect is up for around a million damage over the fight. then the last boss has molten crash that can be taunt reflected also. you can reflect the dot on third boss in uld every other cast. you can reflect withering corruption in bh. i suggest if you want to learn about reflect tech at the highest level Bizenstien has multiple reflect guides
Warlock skips in FH can also be done with evoker. If you have any other class in your party that can either jump or grip (so manly war/dh/priest), someone can use a 2 passengers mount (any of the mammoths with repairs is fine), remove the inital passengers, have 2 other people hop on, then the evoker can rescue this last person and that's 4 people on the other side. Grip/jump for the remaining one and you're set.
I would consider any mechanic that let's you bypass the initial barrier a bug and it shouldn't be abused, I'm a little sad to see it not fixed yet and that it got featured :( However there's a lot of great mechanics like the reset, warlock gates, spellsteals etc. that I'm very pleased that you highlight! :D I will say the bloodswarmer's Sonic Screech, has caused an accidental boss pull before, so be warned about this one specifically and turn off the autocast when you dominate them!
For NL, worm boss, you are able to stand behind the boss for spiked tongue, and let the boss eat the adds, since it only increases boss melee dmg, if the tank can live externals, you can just poison cleanse, or dispell the poison, and dps the boss. stacking on the left most foot for the last boss, ranged or melee, you can force the spike to spawn in a dedicated location, then the tank can position the add to spawn ontop of the spike, insta CCing the add, avoiding most of the aoe pulse. you can also skip the second hulk just by soothing the right pack, and walking down a line into the right most wall.
Uldaman, last boss, you can use movement freeing effects like freedom, disengage, warlock's circle teleport, and so on to remove the dot, you can do the same with the dragons in HOI
Stoneform's PHYSICAL damage reduction only. It would mean sweet F.A during Shocking Quake which is nature damage. I.e. the clip you used to advertise the spell.
good warlock gate skip is the Stinkbreath in Brackenhide Hollow. on the side you can put the portal to the bridge wait for the elite mob to come to towards. it can also be skipped with mindsoothe but it you can fail easier.
Skill capped is not really what i was 6-10 years ago with league guides. A ton of the comments are already finding errors and lot of stuff missed and I''d like to add. You mentioned only vdh and prot warriros are able to succesfully hide behind eggs on 3rd boss in Neltharions lair. Did you forget monks have a transendence? You can also just quickl run behind the snake and stay under rock and as long as u dont have 5 meeles in your group it will still agro you when u go to the front.
great video, and I hate to be this guy, but at 4:07 "Buffet" isn't the french word (pronounced buff-ay) meaning a meal with a lot of courses, rather it's "Buffet" (pronounced buff-et) as in a wing buffet, meaning to strike.
The second gateway in Freehold might not be possible without Mind Soothe. 8:40 shows Soothe applied on the Ravager and Stormcaller guarding the rope bridge.
You can do an evoker rescue skip with mind soothe though, for that second one, just make sure your evoker has an invis pot handy cause they need to be above the bridge by the tree to make it work
The Pelters in NL will not jump away if you dont attack them directly. They will stand with the tank and could be cleaved easily. An Blood DK's could activate Abomination Limb before the start of the dungoen to build up some free Bone Shield, but be aware that there is no critter around (like in Uldaman) cause it will put you into combat and the key could not be activated.
there is a skip of a start timer on bracken u can go to water and move under the bubble :D, also on neltarions lair on the worm boss, tank can go behind him and stay on stone when he's pulling him :D
I had no idea all these utility spells were so helpful. Especially Mind Control. I mean I would have assumed Blizzard just made it so you can't Mind Control anything Elite because.. well because it's fun lol.
WARNING FOR PRIESTS the bloodswarmers in Underrot will pull the boss with its AOE screech. so if youre gonna MC them you best make sure youre FAR from the boss. And i mean quite far.
As a side note to my fellow death knights, anti magic shell negates the debuff from the mushrooms in underrot's 2nd boss. It negates 4 mushrooms so you can pop AMS and clear 4 mushrooms if your group is struggling with it or just to make the run go more smoothly
I don’t know if I was just lucky or it actually works. As a Hunter, I can Turtle the mushrooms as well. Just waiting to try again.
Aka read your spells and use them where they are ment to be used. The golden rule of using more than 2 brain cells :)
Solid guide, looking forward to trying some of this tech!
A couple errors I noticed:
- For Gulping Goliath, a player still needs to soak Gulp even if frog adds are in the circle. It says right on the tooltip you showed, he will become Hangry if he does not find a player in it. Usually it's best if a tank soaks it in my experience, but it doesn't do much damage so really anyone can do it unless already low HP or at high stacks of the poison debuff.
- In Uldaman, the Mind Soothe on the last 2 trash mobs isn't required to skip them. It's a nice precaution, but a group without a SP can still walk around no problem after hopping up or using a gate.
There is a reason why Mage and Shadow Priest are completely dominating at top in mythic +. with holy paladin for heal + support stuff, and Guard druid, + augvoker.
They have highest dps + survivability, AND can do fun tricks.
And Blizzard still say: Bring the player not the class...............
None of the other classes can even come close due to lacking skills for the class, and/or severely behind in dps to compensate.
The meta spec doesn’t matter for 99.99% of the people who complain about it.
right from the get go I know for a fact that not only CDs that are 3 minutes or higher can refund CD upon entering the key, Abom Limb on all DKs resets its CD too tho its useful only on blood to get 9 bone shield charges from the get go
I dont think the pre dungeon CD thing works for warlocks because your infernal/darkglare/tyrant is considered a summon and all summons are dismissed when a keystone starts.
However there are a few dots that warlocks can cheese through using soulburn + demonic circle. Such as the deep chill debuff from the dragons in halls of infusion and timesink from chrono lord deios in uldaman. Because theyre considered slows if you set up your demonic circle and then use soulburn before teleporting to your circle it makes you immune to snares which removes the dot. It can save you from taking a good chunk of damage in groups where you dont have a mass dispel available.
It currently works for Destruction builds running Crashing Chaos.
Naraxas spiked tongue can be cheeses by moving to the left and behind the boss. There are some rocks there that will achieve the same thing as the eggs and it is doable with all clases.
you failed to mention that frost shock and focused deluge reflects can and should stil be done even if warrior is dps. taunt reflect have tank taunt back. this method works in nelth lair on 2nd boss you can taunt and reflect sunder everytime reflect is up for around a million damage over the fight. then the last boss has molten crash that can be taunt reflected also. you can reflect the dot on third boss in uld every other cast. you can reflect withering corruption in bh. i suggest if you want to learn about reflect tech at the highest level Bizenstien has multiple reflect guides
waaaaay to much effort and a risk of getting deleted by a boss auto attack
The cooldown doesnt have to be 3 min Long. Mages Can Mass shield aswell. It has a 2 min cd
Tip the scales on evokers too
Warlock skips in FH can also be done with evoker. If you have any other class in your party that can either jump or grip (so manly war/dh/priest), someone can use a 2 passengers mount (any of the mammoths with repairs is fine), remove the inital passengers, have 2 other people hop on, then the evoker can rescue this last person and that's 4 people on the other side. Grip/jump for the remaining one and you're set.
I would consider any mechanic that let's you bypass the initial barrier a bug and it shouldn't be abused, I'm a little sad to see it not fixed yet and that it got featured :(
However there's a lot of great mechanics like the reset, warlock gates, spellsteals etc. that I'm very pleased that you highlight! :D
I will say the bloodswarmer's Sonic Screech, has caused an accidental boss pull before, so be warned about this one specifically and turn off the autocast when you dominate them!
For NL, worm boss, you are able to stand behind the boss for spiked tongue, and let the boss eat the adds, since it only increases boss melee dmg, if the tank can live externals, you can just poison cleanse, or dispell the poison, and dps the boss.
stacking on the left most foot for the last boss, ranged or melee, you can force the spike to spawn in a dedicated location, then the tank can position the add to spawn ontop of the spike, insta CCing the add, avoiding most of the aoe pulse.
you can also skip the second hulk just by soothing the right pack, and walking down a line into the right most wall.
Uldaman, last boss, you can use movement freeing effects like freedom, disengage, warlock's circle teleport, and so on to remove the dot, you can do the same with the dragons in HOI
Stoneform's PHYSICAL damage reduction only. It would mean sweet F.A during Shocking Quake which is nature damage. I.e. the clip you used to advertise the spell.
good warlock gate skip is the Stinkbreath in Brackenhide Hollow. on the side you can put the portal to the bridge wait for the elite mob to come to towards. it can also be skipped with mindsoothe but it you can fail easier.
Oh I thought soothe was required, good to know
@@TheRyoux when it comes far up, you can safely skip it
@@ThePrayable but dont die and release after this lol
you can also go brakenhide keystart down under the water by the coast
Skill capped is not really what i was 6-10 years ago with league guides. A ton of the comments are already finding errors and lot of stuff missed and I''d like to add. You mentioned only vdh and prot warriros are able to succesfully hide behind eggs on 3rd boss in Neltharions lair. Did you forget monks have a transendence? You can also just quickl run behind the snake and stay under rock and as long as u dont have 5 meeles in your group it will still agro you when u go to the front.
For Narasaxx I believe tank can hide behind the boss under the rock and not get spiked tongue
Great video! I'm surprised I didn't know about dominating the pelters or that tent on bromach considering i'm running 24s LOL
Right before final boss in Uldaman, lock gate can skip the last two mobs. (Usually groups will hop up via pillar bypassing the little stairwell.)
u can jump from the chair to the wall a hug the pillar to get behind those two mobs :)
great video, and I hate to be this guy, but at 4:07 "Buffet" isn't the french word (pronounced buff-ay) meaning a meal with a lot of courses, rather it's "Buffet" (pronounced buff-et) as in a wing buffet, meaning to strike.
The second gateway in Freehold might not be possible without Mind Soothe. 8:40 shows Soothe applied on the Ravager and Stormcaller guarding the rope bridge.
It’s not we tried this early on with our warlock and we got in combat as soon as as we flew up.
You can do an evoker rescue skip with mind soothe though, for that second one, just make sure your evoker has an invis pot handy cause they need to be above the bridge by the tree to make it work
You can also shadowmeld the ale toss on forgemaster and save your healer some pain in Nelt
The Pelters in NL will not jump away if you dont attack them directly. They will stand with the tank and could be cleaved easily.
An Blood DK's could activate Abomination Limb before the start of the dungoen to build up some free Bone Shield, but be aware that there is no critter around (like in Uldaman) cause it will put you into combat and the key could not be activated.
You failed to mention that playing a certain race is for min maxing play what you wanna play and have fun same thing with classes
Holy shit, I was always wondering how those guys on the waterslied were always ahead of me XD
are the mythic plus guides going to come to your actual website any time soon?
well i learned nothing new, well that trick on last boss in hoi using alter time that's a cool trick
good video
Great video! Very helpful to a returning player such as myself.
there is a skip of a start timer on bracken u can go to water and move under the bubble :D, also on neltarions lair on the worm boss, tank can go behind him and stay on stone when he's pulling him :D
Can you explain how for brackenhide?
@@jojoheadshrinker24 there is a bubble when u start the key, u can go right side to the water and go under the bubble
You didn’t mention dominate mind on incorporeal mobs
Don’t forget to turn off aoe cast of bloodswarmer in UD if you don’t wanna pull the whole dungeon.
That Uldaman position trick will not work for destro locks...it los's your infernal drop so u can only drop it on yourself..its super dumb
I had no idea all these utility spells were so helpful. Especially Mind Control. I mean I would have assumed Blizzard just made it so you can't Mind Control anything Elite because.. well because it's fun lol.
nice ive just started mage them tips where cool
DON'T SPELL REFLECT VP LAST BOSS ATTACK! It will go back at the boss and onto your allies. You can do it when he will be targetting your ally.
Meta and bear incarn reset at the start and you get to keep the buff but for some reason Feral loses their buff. Like come on Blizzard
which weak aura is that showing the upcoming debuffs in the middle of the screen
dident know about the verry last one at all
What a buffet of squalls 😂
naraxxas only for dh and warri - blasphemie - transcend superior :D
tank can hide behind the rocks behind the boss instead, so any tank class can do that
any chance to get use of these spreadsheets?
I posted links to a couple of them but I think they're being caught by the moderation tools.
@@TheCineroocould you DM them instead?
Love the videos. Can't help but laugh every time I hear "Buffet" pronouced like an all-you-can-eat adventure.
Nice tips
1:04 PEDISTAL???!?!?
And which dwarf are the best and why?
mythic + dungeons tips for mages drive link please?
Missing the DH toolkit, like chaos nova, different sigils, caging, etc.
Some ppl like to play the game, some ppl like to speed run it.
Don't play M+ then. Stick to normal and HC dungeons
On the last boss of Underrot priests can halo to destroy every spore for easier time
Mass dispell also removes the dot
Druid's sunfire helps a ton with those too
WARNING FOR PRIESTS the bloodswarmers in Underrot will pull the boss with its AOE screech. so if youre gonna MC them you best make sure youre FAR from the boss. And i mean quite far.
I need an arms warrior guide pls
Check marcelian's one.
1:25 CRINGE season is almost over
BUFF-et, you eat from boofays. Two different words, same spelling. Yay English
skills over 2minutes reset first tip wrong lmaoooooooooo
2 minutes or longer**
thats a few months too late