Btw, I find it easier to set the Eq to pre-dyn before sweeping so that your gate reacts to the chosen boosted frequencies. It makes the gate act more like a frequency specific transient designer. 2:45
Parallel is magic! Have you tried using parallel BP filters in Volcano? The different flavors of filter types can be pushed into saturation quite nicely 🙃
Holy Shit! Was doing something similar but this is how to really have control. I would love to see this in an EDM context and see how this survives a full-blown maximizing.
There are some great transient shapers with EQ (some even have compression and distortion) that do this. Boz Transgressor 2 (only EQ though), Wavesfactory Quantum (EQ, comp, saturation, modulation, reverb etc), Surreal Machines Impact (multiband, EQ, comp, saturation, limiter) and probably some others that I'm forgetting. Using EQ, compression and saturation only on the transient parts and then setting the mix of the plugin to something below 100% would do the exact same thing, if I've understood the video correctly.
Great trick! Whenever you want to 'solo' the parallel channel, you can also control+command click the output of the main channel to make the output inactive without needing to set the send to prefader and mute the main channel.
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
Speaking of being professional, I had Cherry Audio’s instruments causing my Cubase session to crash over the weekend. It definitely aggravated me as these things are full-on demotivators. Was able to slog through it all and got what I needed to get done though. It was still annoying AF.
Parallel compression was one of the latter things I learn about, but the funny thing was I accidentally started doing parallel stuff all by myself when experimenting early on. I accidentally had both the main channel (that was supposed to be muted) and a parallel send fx track that was supposed to be all you could hear, and it sounded so thick and punchy I left the "mistake" in. I started doing it intentionally after that, and the first fully finished track I put out had SO much whacky parallel stuff going on in it. I even tried to recreate that track later on, as I wanted to do a much better mixed version, as it was a really dope track, but because of so much crazy parallel processing I had automated, I could never get the bass right (it was a D+B track, so if the bass was wrong, the whole tune dies). It had like 3 layers of the same bassline all with different filter sweeps and different disto on, different Eq's etc. etc.. Even though it was mixed REALLY badly as a song, it was up there as one of my best basslines I ever made. It's a shame that what made it not sit right in the mix was baked into the sound so early on in the process, I had to try to re-make it completely from scratch if I was to have any hope of getting it to sound good in a new mix. I watched or read something somewhere that showed mixing and they didn't do parallel stuff, so I thought it must be wrong what I was doing and I stopped doing it. Only later on I found out it was called parallel processing and was actually a thing, so started doing it again (all be it with a bit more restraint lol)! :D
That's a cool trick. Personally I'd probably duplicate the track so I can do my own gating with volume envelops, so I don't have to deal with unwanted clicks. I don't love what very fast gates do sometimes.
really cool way to get that sound !! do you have an email i can send a track i mixed/mastered using some of your techniques? would love to get feedback, cheers!
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
Sounds like you've figured out how to make one of those EQs that treats the transient and body separately, without getting one of those EQs. Have I got that right?
So my question is are you not Eqing after the comp as I see the ssl eq isn’t set to pre dynamics? So it’s isolating the transient with the gate squashing the heck out of it and adding in the punchy frequencies only to the transient? So is this kinda like a punchy version of the Bob powers Dbx 160 Pultec trick?
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
@richardvxa it's just not as good as the other emulations Except for the dynamics section of it That's the best bit of the waves ssl, it's pretty accurate to the ssl console
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Btw, I find it easier to set the Eq to pre-dyn before sweeping so that your gate reacts to the chosen boosted frequencies. It makes the gate act more like a frequency specific transient designer. 2:45
Good point! thanks for sharing
Parallel is magic! Have you tried using parallel BP filters in Volcano? The different flavors of filter types can be pushed into saturation quite nicely 🙃
No I haven’t thanks for the shout I’ll have to give it a shout!!!
Holy Shit!
Was doing something similar but this is how to really have control.
I would love to see this in an EDM context and see how this survives a full-blown maximizing.
There are some great transient shapers with EQ (some even have compression and distortion) that do this. Boz Transgressor 2 (only EQ though), Wavesfactory Quantum (EQ, comp, saturation, modulation, reverb etc), Surreal Machines Impact (multiband, EQ, comp, saturation, limiter) and probably some others that I'm forgetting. Using EQ, compression and saturation only on the transient parts and then setting the mix of the plugin to something below 100% would do the exact same thing, if I've understood the video correctly.
Yeap! There definitely are.
The benefit or running in parallel is the freedom to write in automation and manipulate this at will while mixing.
Now I want to try printing the delta of phase inverted signal, and then smash only the delta with compression and blend it back in.
What u mean if you can explain with a practical example I'm interested thnx
Great trick! Whenever you want to 'solo' the parallel channel, you can also control+command click the output of the main channel to make the output inactive without needing to set the send to prefader and mute the main channel.
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
Aww man! That’s a killer tip! You’ve saved me a load of time!!
Speaking of being professional, I had Cherry Audio’s instruments causing my Cubase session to crash over the weekend. It definitely aggravated me as these things are full-on demotivators. Was able to slog through it all and got what I needed to get done though. It was still annoying AF.
I feel your pain.
@@panorama_mastering Thanks, mate =]
Parallel compression was one of the latter things I learn about, but the funny thing was I accidentally started doing parallel stuff all by myself when experimenting early on. I accidentally had both the main channel (that was supposed to be muted) and a parallel send fx track that was supposed to be all you could hear, and it sounded so thick and punchy I left the "mistake" in.
I started doing it intentionally after that, and the first fully finished track I put out had SO much whacky parallel stuff going on in it. I even tried to recreate that track later on, as I wanted to do a much better mixed version, as it was a really dope track, but because of so much crazy parallel processing I had automated, I could never get the bass right (it was a D+B track, so if the bass was wrong, the whole tune dies). It had like 3 layers of the same bassline all with different filter sweeps and different disto on, different Eq's etc. etc.. Even though it was mixed REALLY badly as a song, it was up there as one of my best basslines I ever made. It's a shame that what made it not sit right in the mix was baked into the sound so early on in the process, I had to try to re-make it completely from scratch if I was to have any hope of getting it to sound good in a new mix.
I watched or read something somewhere that showed mixing and they didn't do parallel stuff, so I thought it must be wrong what I was doing and I stopped doing it. Only later on I found out it was called parallel processing and was actually a thing, so started doing it again (all be it with a bit more restraint lol)! :D
Haha it’s a powerful tool! There’s actually a point in my next video which will touch on the WHY behind it working so well in a mixing context
yep, transient control is always lots of fun on kicks :)
cool stuff, really nice tricks, thanks!. Will try this out
you should try yum audio snap which does something similar in a different way.
Nice suggestion, I’ll check it out.
That's a cool trick. Personally I'd probably duplicate the track so I can do my own gating with volume envelops, so I don't have to deal with unwanted clicks. I don't love what very fast gates do sometimes.
That's a great idea! Good suggestion!
Lol the shade thrown at Waves 😂 NOT THAT CHANNEL STRIP
haha I'm not meaning to! I've actually got some interesting things to say about waves.
I've also got some interesting things to say about waves. Are they positive? Hell no
really cool way to get that sound !! do you have an email i can send a track i mixed/mastered using some of your techniques? would love to get feedback, cheers!
This would be cool to hear if you were up for sharing the feedback at some point.
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
Yeap. Nicholas@panoramamastering.com.au
@@panorama_mastering is it worth sending you something? Whats the best way to do this?
Pure gold.
Thanks mate
Sounds like you've figured out how to make one of those EQs that treats the transient and body separately, without getting one of those EQs. Have I got that right?
Bang on!
So my question is are you not Eqing after the comp as I see the ssl eq isn’t set to pre dynamics? So it’s isolating the transient with the gate squashing the heck out of it and adding in the punchy frequencies only to the transient? So is this kinda like a punchy version of the Bob powers Dbx 160 Pultec trick?
Good idea !!Thanks !!
You are welcome!
I couldn't tell at the end but did you leave the gate on? Or turn it off when done?
Left it on!
@@panorama_mastering Cheers man!
These techniques are bonkers to someone like me who just discovered compression, plain jane compression, and using mix buses.
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
Haha tomorrow I will flib mix-buses/sub groups around ;)
U crazyyy ! love it ! hahaha💣
many plugins have a delta feature
Yeap!
you gon crash again and have a late night session redoing a week worth of work bruv :P
Haha maybe! Yesterday was bonkers at the studio. No clue how I got through the day!
Well, I don’t like the Waves one. 😅
This guy just showed an SSL bro its nothing crazy theres way better ways to do it. Its literally a bunch of mid plugins thrown into 1, look up alexmadeit thank me later, save urself years of time
Haha truth!
@@panorama_masteringWhy not, guys? Just curious as I usually use it but don’t have another reference point to spot problems 🤔
@richardvxa it's just not as good as the other emulations
Except for the dynamics section of it
That's the best bit of the waves ssl, it's pretty accurate to the ssl console
@@richardvxa download demos from other developers and see what you think.