The LS cadrel ep was good. But God damn this episode was amazing. The chemistry the boys have is unmatched. And the added bonus of having meteos cam made busting so much easier.
Jensen would be a great guest to have on, talk about early days being toxic and getting banned, then c9, liquid, potentially joining EG together, his next steps, etc
For me, I loved old school LCS so much, was because of team loyalty and their associated players. For example, when I think CLG, I see Doublelift, TSM: Dyrus, C9: Sneaky, Dignitas: scarra, Curse: Saintvicious, etc. This also lead to rivalries. Nowadays, players move around different teams every season or so. You lose that satisfaction of a team that wins and was together for a long time.
I’m a 30 y/o man and I still remember getting into league because of the OG C9 in summer 2013 and I still play to this day. Love the costreams and love seeing all three of you in y’all’s natural environments together 😂
its great seeing content like this after playing league for 12 years and following you guys throughout the entirety of it because like you said back then it was so different especially as a viewer compared to now the personalities back then really stuck out and made following individual players or teams way more authentic and now getting to have more insight into those times is just really dope also, meteos looks completely blown the entire video and its great lmao at 1:10:47 when meteos said "carries about his players" can tell the man embraced C9 to the fullest
When Sneaky was talking about a scholarship his Mom paid into for 18 years what he was talking about was a 529 Plan. It's not really a scholarship, it's an investment account where parents can buy in and invest money in the stock market and stuff and so long as the money is used by a kid for college it's all tax free. In Sneaky's case obviously he didn't use it all so his Mom was able to withdraw the money again but had to pay taxes on the investment gains since the money wasn't being used for school expenses. Don't worry bro, she didn't lose any of it except what went to taxes, but she still got more back than if she paid for your tuition lol.
Honestly my favorite player in lcs of all time doublelift , the goat . Sad that your not playing anymore you were the reason I couldn’t wait for lcs to start , thanks for the content !
That whole conversation about filming right after games is goated. I hope teams watch that. Fantastic episode and I absolutely love listening to the three of you. Please consider doing live views. You guys have that website setup to do that, and you used to do that before co-streaming was a thing.
I was in that crowd in Scotiabank Arena for that final. One of the most electric crowds I've ever seen. Seeing replays of that last teamfight gives me chills to this day. Still the best LCS final in my very bias opinion.
Probably my favorite league of legends moment ever is that teamfight you turned around against C9 in 2016 summer finals. i still go back and watch that and it makes me feel things.
Love this episode. Been into League (and pro scene) since season 1. Been a while since I last thought about golden age C9 and it´s really refreshing. Love to find out some background stories!
This is great, thank you so much! I remember some of those bizarre events that felt pretty emotional, hearing them from the player perspective is really cool :)
@@doublelift now that you and sneaky are friends you guys need to touch on your rivalry back in the day with the sneaky in lane meme and him calling you doubleplug.
I love you three SO much. Im not a loud fan but Ive been around a lil minute. I really do appreciate yall. Yall are like, LEGACY league of legends for me. When I think of good League of Legends, I think of doubleloo, Snacky, and Meaty O's. Keep doing what youre doing
Meteos comment about 60 ping... i felt that in my soul. Lost all drive when the server moved happened. It's insane how much of a difference there is between 20ms and 60ms
Some of my favorite moments 18:30 what a golden comment about Balls. LOL 27:30 A ****ing piece of paper 😆 1:03:50 Loading screen, "Have we ever won a scrim with Zac jungle?" 1:26:44 Filming you after matches 1:37:53 Prolly: just agree with me Meteos 1:50:40 Item spike falsehood
not to mention you're not gonna throw away perfectly good clothing (that you wear at home) just because you're not on the team anymore lol. Think of all those gaming chairs when they switch teams too
Lol, when Meteos said the current system just favors coaches who suck up to management and use buzzwords, not people qualified for the role. Buddy, that's every job, every company, everywhere. The people who's only goal is to move up the ladder, get that promotion, make that money are NEVER the best at the actual job. Those are the people who are best at moving up the ladder.
yeah it's interesting that meteos started at the ground floor of a new industry and watched it instantly get gobbled up by the same forces that have eaten up the rest of the world. i think it'd make me jaded too, to see something so organic change so much so fast
Crazy how they explained positional coaches vs strategic coaches vs head coach as good subroles rather than singular coaches without having the terms. A concept already done in the eastern regions for years.
To touch on the personality talk at 43:01 alot of players I didn't know anything about until hearing the coms in champs queue, like now I know olleh and palafox as actual people now not just a supp and mid player for X team, which helps me wanting to root for them/stay involved with the LCS scene
Was kind of hoping doublelift wouldve gone in on that 2018 semi run at worlds from c9, maybe ask them how their teams almost always performed better than doublelift's teams internationally. Wouldve loved to hear the background behind that
This was such a good episode. So far both episodes were really really enjoyable. It feels really hard to top the first two episodes already. Looking forward to the next one : )
That was a great show! Learned a lot about behind the scenes and never knew about all those problems players deal with just trying to play on a team. Sad how orgs aren't prioritizing players more and also sad how sometimes you cant even talk about problems without watching your own back for people coming for you.
Would love to hear Hai and Lemon come on at some point to hear their thoughts on how everything was. Could you make that happen Doublelift? That would be so cool
Hello Doublelift, me and my husband are among of your thousands maybe millions of fans. He is diffinitely rooting for you and was a little sad that you retire. We were gonna get your jersey (for husband) and Bjergsen (for me) because we were rooting for TSM and you said bjerg is a nice person. lol.. Not sure if you're going to read my comment but I am still supporting you by watching your YT vids. Keep making videos :) Hopefully, you'll play again on pro stage.
Current LCS is a business and not players playing for fun. Even as late as season 6/7, you had players in gaming houses and living together, they were friends of a game. Now-a-days, everyone is doing a job. Going pro doesn't mean mean just playing on a stage anymore, it's a strict practice regimen, appeasing investors, not making a fuss. It's now more akin to the NFL than to an esports league. Hell even Valorant and CS:GO still have that down to earth homegrown eSports feel
Golden age of LCS, players and teams had personality and stable cores that were highlighted. In those days you knew C9 had sneaky, lemon, hai and metos, CLG had double and aphro, TSM had turtle and dyrus.
Amazing content. I was a big CLG fan at the time when c9 started destroying everyone, and it was shocking. Meteos was like the Diamondprox of NA to me at the time, i remember him having like a 32 kda on zac or something, was nuts.
Mid jg is a duo role, it's pretty much a 2v2, it can be jg being mids dog, or it can be other way around. I guess back then there wasn't these supportive utility mid picks.
I would say now with jg’s like pridestalker , blaber, and Josedeodo even tho they are not always carrying they do have the potential to have those moments
On the point about contracting, why not put together a consultancy of pro players that teams could scrim against and be able to give feedback on what they felt about the team or what they could do differently
Nice love the content guys. Yea I just think asking questions directed at certain guests will encourage them to be more involved and talk more. That way everyone can have a good chunk of speaking time.
Good vid but I have to take something that you said earlier a little bit more seriously, Sneaky DOES feel like a background character here. Sure, he really doesn't talk a lot in Co-Streams or his own stream but the reason he's here is because people want to know his input in a lot of the questions you ask and it really just felt like Meteos was answering most of it and Sneaky just commenting on what he said. It's always fun to watch the boys together and everyone loves the chemistry between you 3 but I still think you should consider this kind of stuff for future videos since it could be disrespectful either for the people coming in and making space in their agenda or to the viewers just getting no participation out of said person and just wasting everyone's time. Still, loved the vid and hope you can use this as something to improve on in the future
1:34:00 Sneaky is right. Players need to put their power to get leverage with these offseasons. I think the Players Association needs to negotiate a free agency period where there is a time where contracts are over but players can't sign. for a few days to allow players time to talk to multiple teams.
@@Darkstormsun9865 @Jan Ong I've been a follower of C9 and specifically meteos (jungle main since s2) since mlg dallas, and Pokimane was publicly his girlfriend during the timeframe mentioned here. She started rising in popularity initially due to being a super hot gf of NA's best player.
jungle and support hands have to be the most flamed rolls in the game as a jungle main you really are at the mercy of your laners being smarter than theirs
If double lift pins this comment I’ll think of something clever so he’ll pin this comment “I watch every video btw”
i dont know how to reply to this but youre the only one who asked so here you go
@@doublelift sick
Double lift is real pog
pressures on, better be good
This is your moment. Don't fuck this up.
The LS cadrel ep was good. But God damn this episode was amazing. The chemistry the boys have is unmatched. And the added bonus of having meteos cam made busting so much easier.
Real tawlk
Next episode with Jacky and wings
@@xKrypto98x Big ups to the boys, enjoyed watching this with a Pepsi and Wendys chilli.
real sweet kids unite
Lol I haven’t seen the WGT logo in a while what’s the story there
Jensen would be a great guest to have on, talk about early days being toxic and getting banned, then c9, liquid, potentially joining EG together, his next steps, etc
For me, I loved old school LCS so much, was because of team loyalty and their associated players. For example, when I think CLG, I see Doublelift, TSM: Dyrus, C9: Sneaky, Dignitas: scarra, Curse: Saintvicious, etc. This also lead to rivalries. Nowadays, players move around different teams every season or so. You lose that satisfaction of a team that wins and was together for a long time.
Agreed, I've been waiting for teams to come out of this era. Love seeing players associated with teams more than individual skill.
There's a few individual players that are very closely associated with their team. CoreJJ for TL, Ssumday for 100T, Jack signed Fudge through 2025.
When you finally getting to like the players on a team, and boom half of them are gone, and so does the synergy of the team
@@AverageSneedEnjoyer yea so he can sell him, thats jack
This helps fill the gaps between super weeks, keep em coming.
wait till you see episode 3
@@doublelift you mean in April?
@@dienekes6420 lol
@@doublelift episode 3 in summer split
Did you make it sneaky and meteos this time because you didn't want to get anybody fired this week?
monkas
I’m a 30 y/o man and I still remember getting into league because of the OG C9 in summer 2013 and I still play to this day. Love the costreams and love seeing all three of you in y’all’s natural environments together 😂
❤️
Definitely need another episode in the future with this trio. Would be a great fill for the no co stream hole
I started watching lcs in 2014 and instantly became a c9 fan. This brought me back... Thank you for this
its great seeing content like this after playing league for 12 years and following you guys throughout the entirety of it because like you said back then it was so different especially as a viewer compared to now the personalities back then really stuck out and made following individual players or teams way more authentic and now getting to have more insight into those times is just really dope
also, meteos looks completely blown the entire video and its great lmao at 1:10:47 when meteos said "carries about his players" can tell the man embraced C9 to the fullest
When Sneaky was talking about a scholarship his Mom paid into for 18 years what he was talking about was a 529 Plan. It's not really a scholarship, it's an investment account where parents can buy in and invest money in the stock market and stuff and so long as the money is used by a kid for college it's all tax free. In Sneaky's case obviously he didn't use it all so his Mom was able to withdraw the money again but had to pay taxes on the investment gains since the money wasn't being used for school expenses.
Don't worry bro, she didn't lose any of it except what went to taxes, but she still got more back than if she paid for your tuition lol.
Honestly my favorite player in lcs of all time doublelift , the goat . Sad that your not playing anymore you were the reason I couldn’t wait for lcs to start , thanks for the content !
That whole conversation about filming right after games is goated. I hope teams watch that.
Fantastic episode and I absolutely love listening to the three of you. Please consider doing live views. You guys have that website setup to do that, and you used to do that before co-streaming was a thing.
I really love these three, honestly would watch a full podcast series with them
I was in that crowd in Scotiabank Arena for that final. One of the most electric crowds I've ever seen. Seeing replays of that last teamfight gives me chills to this day. Still the best LCS final in my very bias opinion.
wasn’t it still the Air Canada Centre
Damn... we didn't deserve this, but I'm grateful it happened!
glad you and everyone enjoyed it
meteos' face seriously just makes me so happy. he's such a smug doofus lil shit and it comes off even in his face. love it so much lmfao.
This trio is a gem
I wish this was a weekly podcast and not a once in a lifetime
As somebody who never watched/played League until early last year, it's cool to see the history from your guys perspectives. Great pod!
Probably my favorite league of legends moment ever is that teamfight you turned around against C9 in 2016 summer finals. i still go back and watch that and it makes me feel things.
Love this episode. Been into League (and pro scene) since season 1. Been a while since I last thought about golden age C9 and it´s really refreshing. Love to find out some background stories!
2 Podcast with Mr DoubleLiftuuuuuuu.
I recommend you guys watch the Podcast with scarra too.
It's like old frineds catching up.
This is great, thank you so much! I remember some of those bizarre events that felt pretty emotional, hearing them from the player perspective is really cool :)
keep the series going !
the guests for episode 3 will be -
@@doublelift now that you and sneaky are friends you guys need to touch on your rivalry back in the day with the sneaky in lane meme and him calling you doubleplug.
Crazy that sneaky, meteos, and DL remind me alot of my irl friends. Might be why I find their humor to be so damn funny.
This was so interesting. Thanks Doublelift.
you're welcome nostalgia corner
@@doublelift Would love someday for you to do a podcast with Bjergsen :)
I think it's incredible how well Hai taught his dog to talk. what an incredible player.
I love you three SO much. Im not a loud fan but Ive been around a lil minute. I really do appreciate yall. Yall are like, LEGACY league of legends for me. When I think of good League of Legends, I think of doubleloo, Snacky, and Meaty O's. Keep doing what youre doing
Loved the episode, maybe we could see Kelby and MaTTcom as guests at some point for some old CLG talk 👀
Would absolutely love to hear Dyrus, IWillDominate, Travis Gafford, and Bjerg on this show
Meteos comment about 60 ping... i felt that in my soul. Lost all drive when the server moved happened. It's insane how much of a difference there is between 20ms and 60ms
The ep we needed, but not the one we deserved.
Man this should have been ep 1 though! but glad it happened!
Some of my favorite moments
18:30 what a golden comment about Balls. LOL
27:30 A ****ing piece of paper 😆
1:03:50 Loading screen, "Have we ever won a scrim with Zac jungle?"
1:26:44 Filming you after matches
1:37:53 Prolly: just agree with me Meteos
1:50:40 Item spike falsehood
i love how Sneaky still rocks the C9 merch
he still is a part-owner of c9 tbf
not to mention you're not gonna throw away perfectly good clothing (that you wear at home) just because you're not on the team anymore lol. Think of all those gaming chairs when they switch teams too
Lol, when Meteos said the current system just favors coaches who suck up to management and use buzzwords, not people qualified for the role. Buddy, that's every job, every company, everywhere. The people who's only goal is to move up the ladder, get that promotion, make that money are NEVER the best at the actual job. Those are the people who are best at moving up the ladder.
we live in a society 😔
yeah it's interesting that meteos started at the ground floor of a new industry and watched it instantly get gobbled up by the same forces that have eaten up the rest of the world. i think it'd make me jaded too, to see something so organic change so much so fast
Crazy how they explained positional coaches vs strategic coaches vs head coach as good subroles rather than singular coaches without having the terms. A concept already done in the eastern regions for years.
Need a podcast with 2016 boys Kevin,bjergsen,Dennis, Vincent
To touch on the personality talk at 43:01 alot of players I didn't know anything about until hearing the coms in champs queue, like now I know olleh and palafox as actual people now not just a supp and mid player for X team, which helps me wanting to root for them/stay involved with the LCS scene
Was kind of hoping doublelift wouldve gone in on that 2018 semi run at worlds from c9, maybe ask them how their teams almost always performed better than doublelift's teams internationally. Wouldve loved to hear the background behind that
This was such a good episode. So far both episodes were really really enjoyable. It feels really hard to top the first two episodes already. Looking forward to the next one : )
That was a great show! Learned a lot about behind the scenes and never knew about all those problems players deal with just trying to play on a team.
Sad how orgs aren't prioritizing players more and also sad how sometimes you cant even talk about problems without watching your own back for people coming for you.
It’s always great seeing you guys interact. Thx for the awesome video :D
When I started playing league in Season 3 I found Meteos on twitch by accident and I unironically asked him if he owns all the champions in the game
The classic. Lol back in the day when it was crazy if you had every champ
Awesome show, enjoyed learning behind the scenes from the years I watched y’all
Honestly should make this a separate podcast because the trio itself is a classic. Would be a fun competitor to facecheck and the jungle
Would love to hear Hai and Lemon come on at some point to hear their thoughts on how everything was. Could you make that happen Doublelift? That would be so cool
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Name a more iconic trio. I'll wait
Chicken, shrimp, filet mignon
Sneaky, jensen, rush
Jankos, caps, miky
1:14:00 METEOS SAVAGELY SPITTING FACTS>
Balls was the type of guy to agree to everything because he didn't wanna argue with them which could turn physical and he could just outlift everyone
Hello Doublelift, me and my husband are among of your thousands maybe millions of fans. He is diffinitely rooting for you and was a little sad that you retire. We were gonna get your jersey (for husband) and Bjergsen (for me) because we were rooting for TSM and you said bjerg is a nice person. lol..
Not sure if you're going to read my comment but I am still supporting you by watching your YT vids.
Keep making videos :)
Hopefully, you'll play again on pro stage.
FINALLY, THE TRIFORCE IN THE POD
Great one as always double! Theres a lot of improvement in the questions and quality! I do hope Sneaky gets to talk a little bit more next time! :)
is this on spotify? would love to listen to these at work where im able to, to pass the time
Thanks for this! OG C9 was my fav.
This trio makes me nostalgic and sad to see it gone from the LCS, but happy it happened :)
Would love a throwback clg ep or at least u telling some OG stories
this episode got me emotional and nostalgic thank u brothers
man make meteos a co-host he is so good to have in this format
good to see meteos' Norwegian prison is letting him stream from the cell
Quality of hosting is much improved from the first one! Good job!
PLEASE PUT THIS ON SPOTIFY, APPLE POD, ETC
First answer.. they both say "yeeeeeah" at the same time in the same way. Classic bros!
dudes, this show is supergood
as someone who just started following lol when covid hit I was loving all these stories
this episode was fire, what a trip down memory lane
Love the lore behind C9 origins. Doubleflift is gonna be the Joe Rogan of LCS content. Keep up the good work
Thanks for a second episode!!
Do consider having some kind of background music to help fill in the quiet parts! >:D
Bro this podcast hits hard when you witnessed most of the events they talked about.
Current LCS is a business and not players playing for fun. Even as late as season 6/7, you had players in gaming houses and living together, they were friends of a game. Now-a-days, everyone is doing a job. Going pro doesn't mean mean just playing on a stage anymore, it's a strict practice regimen, appeasing investors, not making a fuss. It's now more akin to the NFL than to an esports league. Hell even Valorant and CS:GO still have that down to earth homegrown eSports feel
Banger episode. I could listen to you 3 talk every week about league 👍
You should keep sneaky and meteos as co hosts that would be AMAZING
Meteos looking perma stoned
Golden age of LCS, players and teams had personality and stable cores that were highlighted. In those days you knew C9 had sneaky, lemon, hai and metos, CLG had double and aphro, TSM had turtle and dyrus.
Best trio brings back the memories and you all still kicking it to this day :')
This is like watching JJ Redick's basketball podcast...just legendary. DL, keep up the good work sir!
I played against balls in a local tournament in McAllen Tx. Game was hella fun back in the day.
Great questions DL! The intro was a bit awkward so maybe script that with the questions, but amazing episode!
Amazing content. I was a big CLG fan at the time when c9 started destroying everyone, and it was shocking. Meteos was like the Diamondprox of NA to me at the time, i remember him having like a 32 kda on zac or something, was nuts.
HAHAHA its the meteos pillow for me lmfao dead
more of the trio pls!
Mid jg is a duo role, it's pretty much a 2v2, it can be jg being mids dog, or it can be other way around. I guess back then there wasn't these supportive utility mid picks.
Dang lmao haven’t seen meteos on cam in months my boy is eating good! Happy for the brother
This episode was much needed and was awesome. Love this crew!
This was great to listen to. So glad you guys did this.
DL: yeah
M: yeah
DL: yeah
S: yeah
37:42
This podcast would’ve been better in a hot tub
I would say now with jg’s like pridestalker , blaber, and Josedeodo even tho they are not always carrying they do have the potential to have those moments
On the point about contracting, why not put together a consultancy of pro players that teams could scrim against and be able to give feedback on what they felt about the team or what they could do differently
Now this the shit I'm here for. Time to wack it to Meteos and hear og stories. Oh the nostalgia!
Y'all make such a good trio. Loved this episode.
Nice love the content guys. Yea I just think asking questions directed at certain guests will encourage them to be more involved and talk more. That way everyone can have a good chunk of speaking time.
Good vid but I have to take something that you said earlier a little bit more seriously, Sneaky DOES feel like a background character here. Sure, he really doesn't talk a lot in Co-Streams or his own stream but the reason he's here is because people want to know his input in a lot of the questions you ask and it really just felt like Meteos was answering most of it and Sneaky just commenting on what he said.
It's always fun to watch the boys together and everyone loves the chemistry between you 3 but I still think you should consider this kind of stuff for future videos since it could be disrespectful either for the people coming in and making space in their agenda or to the viewers just getting no participation out of said person and just wasting everyone's time.
Still, loved the vid and hope you can use this as something to improve on in the future
1:34:00 Sneaky is right. Players need to put their power to get leverage with these offseasons. I think the Players Association needs to negotiate a free agency period where there is a time where contracts are over but players can't sign. for a few days to allow players time to talk to multiple teams.
7:00 the Pokimane origin story if yall have never heard it before btw
Wait was poki the girl meteos was talking about?
@@janong262 was it really poki? i thought she was from canada. she randomly flew to cali and hooked up with meteos?
@@Darkstormsun9865 @Jan Ong I've been a follower of C9 and specifically meteos (jungle main since s2) since mlg dallas, and Pokimane was publicly his girlfriend during the timeframe mentioned here. She started rising in popularity initially due to being a super hot gf of NA's best player.
jungle and support hands have to be the most flamed rolls in the game as a jungle main you really are at the mercy of your laners being smarter than theirs
Thoroughly enjoyed it thx mr lift for setting it up
Pretty interesting story on how Meteos got traded to FlyQuest. Seems like 100T interpreted his request to talk to other teams as a trade request.
Keep it up man, this is some A+ content
Please do this weekly/bi weekly, I miss you guys so much, especially sneaky talking about league content
1:09:20 Sounds like we need to seize the means of production on the rift, Comrade
im excited to see the new guest next week