John Cena Reveals TRUTH on the Austin Theory Promo
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- Don't miss the full NotSam Wrestling podcast with John Cena, where the wrestling legend dives deep into the captivating controversy and TRUTH surrounding the Austin Theroy "Piped In Crowd Noise" promo! Watch now on TH-cam: • John Cena - The Rock, ...
In this exclusive interview, Cena opens up about the electrifying Wrestlemania match in Los Angeles against rising WWE superstar Austin Theory, shedding light on the highly controversial "Piped In Crowd Noise" promo. Discover the behind-the-scenes conversations that took place before the epic Monday Night Raw showdown, where Theory dared to mention Cena's bald spot, and Cena fired back with a scathing response about the alleged piped in crowd noise!
Listen as Cena takes us on an intriguing journey through his writing process for promos, sharing the challenges he faces in making the audience truly care about a performer in the world of pro wrestling and the vast WWE universe. Gain valuable insights into the art of crafting compelling narratives that resonate with fans worldwide.
Join us as we explore the intricacies of professional wrestling, where dreams collide with reality and larger-than-life characters come to life. Witness Cena's raw honesty and unfiltered opinions as he discusses the inner workings of the industry and the hurdles he faces as a performer.
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John Cena didn't bury Austin Theory, he was just giving him motivational advice
Advice under 6 feet of dirt?
@@rafaelriveracollazo8680 how he's 6 feet under when he beat john at wm lol. Y'all marks are fucking dumb. Lemme guess, you like aew. Lemme guess another thing. You like the elite in aew. Lemme guess another thing. You think omega is the best wrestler alive cuz uncle dave says so. Im pretty sure i ticked at least 2/3 of those questions. And it proves my point.
He buried him he didn’t allow him to rebuttal
@@pleaseshutup7053 as he should have
@@pleaseshutup7053 I mean how could he rebuttal after that?
Used to tell my friends your going to miss Cena when he’s gone and they all do.
Naahh Wrestling is better today than it ever was with him.
Everyone is missed when they're gone.
I am frigging don't... he was the consolidation champion for the last 15 years of hell this industry went into... same with Randy Orton...
nah, super cena era was awful during the 2010-2012. He was pushed so many times with the same boring matches where he gets beat 90% of the match, gets up, hits AA and wins.
Not me... I miss Jimmy Wang Yang.
John’s right. There’s not enough trial and error to get Theory’s character to where it needs to be for him to be looked at like the next Cena. He has all the potential and tools but it feels like something’s missing.
something's missing on theory, maybe that ruthless attitude need?
not only that they booked him wrong and make him look weak like for example cashing in on us title???
Reminds me of drew when Vince coined him as the chosen the fans seem to want people to earn it rather than hand picked which is fair
Been saying that for the longest, nothing against the dude himself, but the Austin Theory character to me never had any substance to it. We were just told that he had upside from fans and wwe kayfabe but I personally don't see it.
I have this theory that the WWE sabotages certain people on purpose to test their loyalties.
What I have a BIG issue with is Cena calling out Theory in that promo, so Austin pins Cena, in a bit of a passing the torch moment, at Wrestlemania. Theory should have had his moment the Raw after Mania. Give him a 10 minute segment, or a celebration segment, where he brags about pinning John. What happened? Austin had a meaningless match against Rey. What is worse is the story behind it was still Dom Vs Rey. Had nothing to do with Austin. Now, Austin can say screw it, and give himself a moment, but if creative says no, what else can he do?
What did he do after that match
Cena is right tho. Theory doesn't have passion. This just me. I feel like theory doesn't care for the business. He just care for the fame.
@@shortymtz4658 Not many have the passion Cena once had though...LOL
@@shortymtz4658nah he cares watch his origin story but he and so many others seem to struggle in finding a character because it’s hard he’s only relying on his looks and athleticism we need more
Wasn’t a passing of the torch moment at all lmaoo. A passing of the torch moment is the older more established superstars putting over the younger ones and making it believable.. Theory was biting Cena’s hand, ear and low blowed him..
My thing with Theory is that it all feels very rushed…
It feels as though there’s a huge rush to have Theory as the finished product for WWE as soon as possible…
When in reality, every single superstar that has come up in WWE has spent YEARS developing before they reach superstardom
& as Cena said, there must be failures on that path… because each time you get knocked down, you learn a new lesson & can step it up a notch next time
Preach!
I grew up on the OVW class of Cena, Lesnar, Orton, and Batista and its such a nice thing for me at 28 yrs old to see all of these guys being so genuine and honest outside of the ring.
Same I’m 25 and the ruthless aggression era 2005-2009 was amazing
"I don't want to be talked about generations for now"
"I am a pawn in the chess board"
THIS IS WHY CENA IS A LEGEND. HIS HUMILITY 👏
John cena is just so humble. I’m telling you people considered what he said about theory a burial when deep down if that was anyone else it would have been a totally different scenario. John has always been treated so unfairly by wrestling fans and most of those people are old people lol its crazy.
its a mentor approach, im sure he had his leaders break him down.
It's jealousy. He wants to be young again.
@@NoNonsense77 that's not the case at all
@@NoNonsense77 I take passion. Then some wannabe character. Theory doesn't have passion. He just care about the fame
@@NoNonsense77 , no what you said is a contradiction to your name the fuck does Cena honestly have to be jealous of?? When compared to theory
The thing with Theory is the penny has not dropped on his persona yet. He is the young hot gun making his way, which makes sense for now.
But at some point he has to become what he needs to be. It happened with Cena, Rock, Austin, Edge, Miz etc. He will need to find his version of the 3:16 promo moment.
My gripe with him is theory's character is that he's overly arrogant and entitled. If he didn't care so much about or hell kicked it back a notch or fucking showed a tiny bit of compassion then that contrast would hit hard.
At end of the day. It isn't about having 5 star matches. It is about can you get fans to care boo or cheer and sell tickets and put butts in the seats
Exactly. Even more today when it’s all high spots. The side kick used to be sweet chin music, a power bomb was the jackknife. A stunner was a stunner. The ddt was the end. The only times moves like these were kicked out of was during a big match at Summerslame, Wrestlemania, King of the Ring. Now these moves aren’t even high spots, just a regular moves. Story telling in the ring is a lost art. Don’t try to brush off a straight kick to the head as a normal spot, but then try to sell some acrobatic move that doesn’t even look like it hurts as a finisher. Not even going to mention the lame storylines.
And this is why AEW has grown bland and is struggling to grow/maintain an audience. Their stories are paced poorly (often with laaarge gaps between angles), their main promotional videos are exclusive to TH-cam where only the hardcore fans are really seeing them, and their matches contain the same maneuvers as the match prior and the match after will have.
At the end of the day, WWE is producing an overall better & balanced product.
@@minimalchill I don't think it's gotten bland whatsoever. That's incredibly cap. "Struggling to grow/maintain an audience" WHAT???
It is about having 5 stars matches though. Your "all time greats" had to put on other worldly in ring work to get over.
@@Izaan2810 wrong
I love Austin Theory. I hope he can be the next big thing for this company. His potential is crazy. Can I see him as a face? Idk, but something needs to be done to shed light on his character
If he can get his entrance over, I feel like he can get it over as a face. They did a tour overseas earlier this year and they were singing his music. I think he could get going
that's the thing about guys like Cena. Regardless of how the match was at Mania, his presence was responsible for making Austin feel relevant. The sad part is that Austin's run hasn't been very memorable so far if you take the Cena feud out (which itself was very short). I hope something happens with his character. He's an awesome talent, but he's gimmick is just not getting over.
5:28 perfect last note 😂😂😂
that sounded like a rib on Roman Reigns, for saying that line 🤣
A similar conversation happened between Randy Orton & Angel Garza. Randy Orton seemed aggressive by the approach but he wanted to motivate Garza.
As they should be. Once they retire it’s up to the new guys to keep the ship going
If you aren’t a fan of Theory post-Wrestmania with John, y’all will never be satisfied. This is not a situation of “know-it-all” syndrome. He believes in the person but not the gimmick. He wants the person to succeed, and that all comes with the story they are telling. How long was Roman supposed to be the “Big Dog” until they got bored with it. When John dogged Roman during that contract signing, it was an incredible flashpoint for his career. That’s not just because of John, but it helped that a legend like John cared enough to push the person (more of the mindset of leading the horse to water more than forcing it to drink). Theory is so talented but are like most Superstars who are free riders of what John helped build in the modern-era of WWE. Not that Theory is entitled, but there is less of a sense of urgency to be successful and have that “expendable” mindset that keeps you in this business for a long time. Just because you are relevant does not mean long term success. John is showing others how to be sustainable. Booking Theory moving forward is going to be incredible because he knows what it takes to be with the likes of a John Cena, Undertaker, etc. I always attribute to exchanges like John and Theory to a situation like Kareem and Micheal Oliwakandie. Kareem tried to give advice and Oliwakandie brushed Kareem off as an “old head”. Oliwakandie was talented out the gate but never had the long-lasting career he could’ve had if he stopped and digested advice from others like a Kareem. I respect what John is doing for stars. In front of the camera, he does not do it often, so it should tell you how much belief in the person John has for Theory because John has so much cache in the company that he could easily say “No” to working with Theory and find a different storyline.
10 years from now theory will mention this segment and it’ll be what shaped him into the face of the company when that day comes.
Lol 😂😂must be why it’s had no effect so far. He’s more irrelevant than ever not even on the card tonight
@@pleaseshutup7053 dolph ziggler got really famous for a minute there he was worse than current theory, oh and look at Cody Rhodes today
That's mostly thanks to shit head Hhh booking tbh
He’s just not a draw, not that good on the mic, doesn’t have anything that sets him aside from other wrestlers and is a mediocre entertainer.
Wtf is wrong with you people? Cena was selfish af n buried him six feet under
Cena seriously knows the business. He’s gonna have a cooperate position in WWE at some point. He is so damn knowledgeable in such a great way.
Hes too busy selling his soul to China
too busy with hollywood bro. Plus WWE will have to pay him a lot more than they alreay are.
@@vaibhavroy79 and selling his soul to China.
Lmaooo you need like 85 suffering sacatash moments. Wise words that can applied to anything. Good stuff
That Cena promo to Theory is like 1985 by J Cole. It wasn’t a diss, it was advice.
Dude, what cena said was scary accurate after wm now look at theory what is he even doing, before wm he had potential and was making a noise now it's like what major storyline is he involved other than MITB
This is why Cena would never consider joining AEW. Many of the guys (not all of them) don't grasp this.
Why would he? WWE always pays more and so does Hollywood
Tony khan wants to know your location
Some of the wrestlers in both WWE & AEW don’t understand it.
John Totally buried Austin. Anyone that thinks otherwise is ignorant, imo. Think about that promo John did He said something like, "iI doesn't matter if you beat me or if you lose, you will lose no matter what. They still won't care about you." Dude, why did John say that promo? I wasn't think that until Cena said that. Honestly, If Cena would have said something cool about the dude, raised his arm or something, it would have possibility put him over. Cena CHOSE not to put the guy over. It is right there for the world to see.
Calling someone ignorant when your acting like the guy was over to begin with when he wasn't. 😂
That ending
It's not up to Cena who is good, who isn't. He isn't in development, or work for the front office
John Cena’s character in wwe now might be playing to the crowd and being a joke but he is one of the most respectable people i ever seen and actually deserve to be respected
yo thats kinda cool learning some wrestlers can write their promos i thought wwe strictly makes the scripts . and its really cool how like john cena said some wrestlers be like “ ill see you out there” like no rehearsals??😂🔥🔥🔥
Austin is not far off from being where roman was when he was back in his face period, and Cena did the exact same for him. Look where Roman is now and how people react to him. Austin is still young and healthy, he's got alot of time to find his footing.
Na Roman still evoked emotion, Roman was moving merch. Theory has zero connection when he comes out. Nobody really cares about what hes involved in hes pretty irrelevant. Not all on him, booking needs to give him interesting storylines where he can either sink or swin
The interesting part. I watch some AEW when I can but when it comes to WWE. I would watch clips of Cena and the whole attitude era plus Brock, Lesnar, Edge, Mysterio and Miz then any of the new wrestlers.
Theory should be allowed to get a mic in house shows and practice. Like the Miz did
John Cena was a good company man but I never could get lost in his character or his matches after the edge matches
I like that Austin Theory just shows up and says his stuff.
I remember the time when he was going on my nerves, but not really him, I loved Cena, just WWE was shoving him down our throats and he was Champion for so long when I wanted to see the Wrestling Machine Kurt Angle as the face of WWE.
That said, I have so much respect for Cena, one of the greatest promo guys ever, he could pull off classic matches as he did with Shawn and CM Punk and other great matches as he did with Umaga, and he has the right mindset.
I can easily call him one of the all time greats, well deserved.
The major reason i dont see this channel is the volume. Mr NotSam, you take some impressive podcasts and videos, can you please put some volume to it ?
Omg he brought up the succotash promo😂
Austin Theory has a long way to go
The next Legend Killer
He'll never be Randy
@@seanstroman6087 But he'll definitely be his own.
@@jack-exzolt9858 no he won't 🤣
@@ballsdeep5336 Emoji detected. Opinion rejected.
@@jack-exzolt9858 he’s already a John cena lite
What a good job keeping Kayfabe John Cena. We know you did not mean to say what you said in that promo. It is just that a promo. You know as well as everybody else that that man has no limits when it comes to wrestling. And you are no stranger to piped in crowd noises.
5:28 you need to have like 85 suffering succotash moments that made me laugh not sure why but it did.
That wrestlemania match theory vs cena was so ass. It felt so pointless, doesn't even feel like a mania match
This is actually tough love
I feel like he’s right about Theory. He’s just not believable to me. He needs to choose a character he truly believes in.
I remember when you started out as a new nothing podcast now the only person you need on the podcast is the rock
Can WWE give Dolph Ziggler another main push, have it be serious and have Austin feud with him and Balor and Rollins. Those 4 would be fantastic together, Austin could team up w/ The Miz and learn from Mike too if anything without ruining The Judgement Day. I think Austin needs a meaningful bout and Dolph is deeply overlooked when he shouldn’t be.
Asuka should’ve had her wrestlemania moment/ win and Cody could’ve gotten the win at mania and then had Brock face him next, lifting his title ban. Either way at this point is fine, but I still think it was a strange call from Vince/ creative not to allow the titles to change hands. Congrats to Roman tho.
The point with entertainment is you have to bring something new each and every time. Like in the movies an actor have to give something new and that's why public will go to your next movie
Man it's crazy how Vince McMahon doesn't age.
this has to be a joke lmao
Send this clip to Jim cornette to react 😂
I get what Cena was trying to do
I don't like what he did to Theory, but I get it
Buried thoery Hella hard
He clearly hinted at CM punk in the end ..where he feels everyone against him
Austin has time to grow hopefully he listens to the former legends in WWE who made it. I think Austin Theory Logan Paul and Dominick Mysterio are all the young guys
John Cena you are a legend and will be talked about long after you’re gone. Thank you
The issue with theory isn't him it's his booking. It's clear triple hhh doesn't have big plans for him. He keeps facing bobby. He got Kayfabe knocked out by Tyson fury. Cashed in money in the bank on a secondary title and lost.
He lost the MITB because it was a dumbass decision HHH had to clean up from Vince
Plus it helped changed his character from Daddy's boy to Aggressive like, theory is being built up similar to Cena' ruthless aggression gimmick but..a bit better
In the moment, the cash in was awful, but you can’t tell me Austin theory had elevated his game from a year. Cause he definitely has. I didn’t watch raw as much, but when Austin came out, I was like this guy has the looks but tf is his character. Now look what’s he’s become after the briefcase.
Oh oh, you said bad things about Hhh's booking.
Get ready for them to blame Vince McMahon instead
Actually Theory has big plans after summerslam you should get your facts straight
@Ex Pum Prichard, is that you? If anyone should get ready it's you and your gag reflex for Vince's nutsack
And months later we still don’t
John cena is a very generous man he comes loses to people to elevate them but in reality austin theory aint nothing compared to john he just a weasel
Dude acts all high and mighty saying he sees through the most talented young guy on the roster. Then he shows up at Wrestlemania and phones it in. It should have been a career defining moment for A Town Down. Instead Cena shows up not tan and has a crappy match. And the worst part was, Cena should have put him over CLEAN. Screw Cena
He didn't bury him he just make him more visible in the industry
It's just a John Cena thing to do😂
He’s a legend
@@JayWIll2000s he sure is
Cena is on another level ! Great interview !
85 suffering suckertash moments 😂😂
People saying he buried him. Its the same cause when MJ would “ bully “ his team mates. Both guys just want perfection. Theory is still not ready
I honestly agree
John Cena is great at humiliating people and then helping them overcome them.
Dude is legit.
I don't see that with Theory especially though. I see a very genuine character, and what I see is a insecure guy, that came up despite the odds and developed a chip on his shoulder and a brash personality to compensate, somewhere that story will be told of him overcoming and perhaps becoming a Cena level babyface.
john giving tough love
I just want to give you advice, if a A list wrestler comes on a show "spilling his intentions" thats all part of the show. Lol the writers are very good at swaying emotion
Theory just needs an actual good rivalry. Maybe LA Knight.
Sam looking like EBT Dean Moxley
and all that talk for a 7 minute Raw match at WRESTLEMANIA!!!!!! lol
Says the dude who needed to rap to get over with the crowd then turned into some super soldier wannabe when the gimmick was dying.
So he reinvented himself multiple times and ensured longevity. You thought you did something with this braindead nonsense.
This take is so unbelievably stupid.
shut up
Its funny because Cena had the least believable phoniest looking moveset of all time.
Yet still become an all time great
@@OMAR-vk9pi Because of booking. Because he's booked to be an all time great...
@@BadManRiRi He was booked that way because he drew money for WWE. Also many fans don't give a flying, flippity FUCK about the movesets in a fake sport. The Rock has the People's Elbow, even as a little kid who thought WWE was real, I always was suspicious of that move, yet, I was captivated by Dwayne's shtick. Roman still basically has the same moveset as in 2017. Yet he's super over because his CHARACTER changed. That isn't to disrespect in ring work, I took a bump, once inside my school's boxing ring, that shit is hard, I respect it, but fancy moves and athleticism don't get you over. Character does. Cena, Rock, Austin, Hogan, Cody and Roman all had GREAT characters in their prime. (For Cody and Roman their prime is right now, obviously)
@@MrDanny91 Vince kept him around cause John Cena sold a copiously high amount of merch (back in 2016, he was number 1 all-time) and was integral in WWE breaking to the Chinese market. Guys like CM Punk, Alberto Del Rio and Batista, who left WWE long ago talk about how great John was for the company. Yes, he was booed, so what? He drew money, 5 of the top 10 most bought WrestleManias had Cena in the Main event, 2006 (975k buys), 2007 (1,2m buys), 2011 (1,06m buys), 2012 (1,22m buys) and 2013 (1,05m buys). 4th biggest draw in company history, after Hogan, Rock and Austin. He NEVER missed a single date, he represented the company, appearing in Nickelodeon and what-not. Has the most charity Make A Wish appearances for any human being ever. Is being featured in high grossing movies, has released an album which sold OVER ONE MILLION COPIES and also carried the company during 2007's Chris Benoit thing. Just because he was booed doesn't mean he wasn't as over as hell. In fact, he was the one who popularized the "Let's Go, Cena.... Cena Sucks..." chants when he asked half the fans to boo him and half to cheer him back in 2010. Do you think some random ass wrestler would get a reaction as big as Cena's if he did the same thing? No, of course not. If it isn't hard to accomplish, what Cena has, then why has no one else accomplished those things?
They sold the hulk hogan leg drop for like 80 years now that was the phoniest
This guy is the fucking man/ Hold up there is a new guy called austin theory???
Did he end up talking about Punk a bit there?
Cena right about theory..wwe need to have the guys more natural and just talking have a base line not hitting every line he has something but I sounds so scripted john cena is a natural talker u can feel what he saying and roman finally got there it's natural I 100 percent agree with cena
Cena's right. Theory has all the tools, but does he have IT? We'll see.
Austin Theory will be the next guy after Roman. Its gonna be a process though.
I always liked john cena the person.
Yeah no, it didn't worked Johnny lol to be fair, Austin isn't the new John Cena, he was a Vince project, when he left all his hype died.
John should be a teacher At WWE in his free Time LOL Cause he Did the right thing here
He actually does. Most people don't know that some veterans frequent the Performance Center to train and coach. Dwayne and John were the most notable ones.
It obviously ain’t working with cena being there because almost everyone in wwe sucks at promos 😂
@@jack-exzolt9858Dwayne definitely isn’t one lmao. He’d rather show up to the Impact hall of fame than make one WWE TV appearance. Cena doesn’t have the time either but he’ll show up to give back when he can.
@@pleaseshutup7053 Not Cody
@@OldSparksmpact Hall of Fame and Ken Shamrock's legendary career > an average episode of any weekly wrestling show.
“They should be talking about Roman, and whoever follows him and whoever follows him”
Business 101
Bing chilling.
What a professional
Based on the way Cena is I'm surprised he put over theory
I know Austin personally he's my buddy's nephew I grew up with great kid
Cena clearly believes as soon as you’re in with him you’re in deep waters and you better sink or swim because he won’t help you.
He did it with Roman, Barret, Punk and others
And it's honestly an approach that people need
And the Rock did the same for him.
@@michaeldepinto3562 What do you mean. Cena was already The Face of WWE when he had his match against The Rock
@@brolysupersaiyan1634you don’t think Cena gained from feuding with The Rock? It helped him grow. Whether he is the star or not working with The Rock helped Cena become better. It really is put up or shut up. You either get a chance to work with the greats and learn what it means to be the best in the business or you lose your chance cause you don’t
@@brolysupersaiyan1634 The Rock pushed him to Hollywood Status. Also a past legend who put him over.
"Fans Can See Through the B.S. ... ", & Yet ... WWE STILL Shovels It with Roman's Seemingly Never-Ending Reign of Terror! ... Amongst Other Things ...
bc no one would step up
Acknowledge the tribal chief, head of the table ☝️
@@Dj_CaTz1 cringe
@@Joker-jz9cn lmao guys like samdow Cody ziggler and more who got over in spite of wwe would get buried for getting over
@@finger3306 Nah, that's based. Acknowledge your tribal chief ☝️
What's gonna happen is, Cena did the shoot on Roman not being able to cut a promo and Roman eventually became THAT guy. Do you feel Theory can be THAT guy? Idk
John freaking Cena
Great guy 😂😂 fr tho
I don't call the shots 😂 drop down drop kick roll out elbow throw me to corner miss hip toss
To be honest Austin Theory doesn't character wasn't clicking with fans. He's always arrogantly talking like he done something big and he's the man but feels like he done nothing. If he want to do that, be like the miz and carry yourself like a star
Cena did right by Austin the same he did with Roman. They learned from those promos.
according to roman he learned from heyman not cena, thats why heyman is standing next to him for, cena helped roman take it more serious though, thats it
Match still in my opinion sucked at a wrestlemania match glad it went on first cus the rest of night 1 almost made forget it even happened
No John Austin is losing the game man they just don’t have the growth of the craftsmanship that you had when you was bought in 2002, the same goes for the Miz. He is a good talker on the mic, but he just does not do it. People want to see performance at pay per views I think I will just stick with watching the good old days like Austin, the rock, Kurt Angle, the undertaker and Rob van dam.
Cena talks about authenticity yet comes off as fake. I'm just not buying what he's selling.
No one cares
Remember when John cena destroyed Roman on the mic and look at Roman now , so cena actually saved Austin’s career
that promo didn't do anything for roman, him going away for covid did, he got fed up with his character direction and asked vince to turn him heel
Cena didn't burry theory
Theory isn't that good yet
But some felt for him after the he list a brief case that he shouldn't won in the first place
And we saw some saying about his massive talent
And blah blah watched him for a while and cena was right he is not believable
as with so many that come through the wwe system, its become a conveyor belt of plastic performers, they have to project some realism of themselves into the characters, or its not believable, show some attitude and personality, be different from the rest.
Yh Austin just gotta charge those ones icl
Love him or hate him Cena so humble
Bottom line is whats happening to Austin is EXACTLY what happened to Cena. Hes going to have a spark eventually and revamp his character. As a fan I see all the potential and talent but I HATE how bland he is.
He got a good start getting rid of the phone selfie bit. He might have the same problem Drew McIntyre had in his first go-round with WWE, where he was Vince's hand-picked next big thing and was just never able to live up to that. It took Drew going away, reinventing himself, and coming back before he got it. Austin might have to go away for a while and hit the reset button on his gimmick. It's hard to change when you don't go away.
GOAT
Saw Sheamus and Theory do a match at a house show last week and it was by far the biggest snooze fest of the night.
Austin theory is more like the next randy Orton instead of the next John cena