Modhouse Argon - Fostex T50rp MkIII - review
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@Blue Actually my battery was getting low 😂
T50 King 🤔
Thanks for the thoughtful and supportive words, much appreciated.
Hi David from Wales. I have a pair of T50-RPs mark 2 modded. The pads are zmf lambskin. They are powered by a graham slee solo amp. I enjoy them better than my T60RP headphones. Hoping you can review the t60s soon. Great video by the way.
I hope to get a T60rp Argon in for review sometime in the near future.
Graham Slee solo amp looks interesting. May have to look into that some more.
YEEESSSSSSSSSSS I've been waiting for your opinion on the Argons
Sorry it took so long and thank you for being patient.
Great review, was really looking forward to this one! I haven't heard any bad things about the Modhouse Argon thus far so I think it will be my next purchase. I only have a Magni 3 for AMP power at the moment and I feel like they could run these, but not to the degree that the Argons would want... I guess I should probably start saving for a new AMP for these headphones.
@Caleb Name Yes the Magni 3 could power them decently but for the full Argon effect an amp with 4-6w is preferred. I couldn't come up with any negatives to say other then pads get warm and that is a petty complaint.
Thank you for the kind words and watching.
@Blue I may have to pick-up a pair of those to try out on my various T50 mods.
New units are back available; just ordered one pari, with sheep-skin pads! Now i need an amp… but i have 12 weeks to find it ;-)
@Bernard Andrew modhouse website www.modhouseaudio.com/
I've been watching all your reviews and I really appreciate how you mention gaming performance in this one. I would love to hear your recommendations for the best competitive gaming headphones at each price bracket.
Sorry I'm not much of a source for gaming gear but I'll think about yiur suggestion. I'm glad you enjoy the videos. Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing 👍
Nice detailed review, can you suggest me a budget amp for this?
JDS Labs Atom would be a good budget amp. Also a Schiit Audio Magni but I haven't heard one in person for review.
Thank you for answering all our questions so sincerely ! I wanted to know what is the cheapest portable amp you would consider plugging these into? I am quite new to all this :)
Sorry I haven't come across a portable amp that can power T50 Argon.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you
My pleasure, you're welcome 😊
Am I the only one who thought he was holding a tiny pair of headphones in the thumbnail??
How do they compare to the other mods? A comparison between these and the argon t60rp will be interesting. Great vid :3
Comparisons to other T50RP upcoming this week. Comparison to T60 Argon would be awesome, hopefully I will get an opportunity to review the T60 Argon at some point.
@@TheHonestAudiophile looking forward to your new vids
I love them but I'm selling my Argon Mk3s on ebay right now. Offer ends on April 11th 2021.
Ah, interesting. I have a JDS Atom & assumed it wouldn't be enough.
T50 are not as power hungry as a lot of people say.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I wouldn't mind stepping up from this stack. I would just..Have a problem spending $500+ on an amp for a $300 headphone 😂
@@EverythingisFire understandable
I'm looking at buying a (semi)-portable DAC/AMP and I'm wondering if these would be a good match. (also the dac amp is the FiiO K3). I'm not sure if this is too underpowered or not as I'm just learning about this kind of stuff.
Single-ended output power
220mW（16Ω）
120mW（32Ω）
Balance output power
320mW（16Ω）
200mW（32Ω）
I think I'm missing something. Everything you said about the headphones is spot on, but for me there is really not that much bass as much as everyone says it is. I sent my Mass Drop T-X0 in for the argon mod, but I left the stock pads on. Does the pads really make that big of a difference? My argon sound very balanced.
@ed boogie yes, pads make a difference.
@@TheHonestAudiophile just figured out what the problem was. I had high volume but not enough power. Adjusted my set up so my amp is throwing more power and now I understand what everyone is talking about that these headphones have some serious base....I love it!
Does anyone know whether the schitt magnius 3 would output enough power for this headphone (5w at 32ohms)? Or perhaps whether the schitt asgard would be the better options? Great video by the way
I haven't heard the Magnius 3 or the Asgard but I would venture a guess to say the Asgard 3 would be the better option for single ended but the Magnius would be better option for balanced.
Thank you for the kind words, greatly appreciated.
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@@TheHonestAudiophile Yeah I think that’s the general consensus, just am not sure wether 5W would be enough for the argon (they both output same power I think)
I would think 5w would be adequate but I havent heard those pairings.
@@TheHonestAudiophile awesome stuff man, thanks
@@taylorneill2687 my pleasure, you're welcome 😊
I was literally looking up the specs on my Geshelli when you said it wouldn't be enough...
Glad to be a help, sorry to be the bearer of sad news.
@@TheHonestAudiophile you say sad - I see purchase opportunity!
@@LakerTriangle Excellent way to look at it 👍
How do they do with the iFi ZEN DAC?
Sorry didn't have the iFi Zen DAC available at the time of review for the Modhouse Argon.
How does classical music sound on the Argons?
Argon adds some fun to classical but can be a bit overbearing in mid bass on classical music.
is a SMSL SP200 adequate for powering these?
Sorry I haven't had the opportunity to hear the SP200.
Why not buy them? are they too close to something you own already
I may buy them in the future 👍
Financial reasons is the major reason for not purchasing now.
I currently own 4 other T50RP mods already is another reason not to purchase at the moment.
@@TheHonestAudiophile different sounds but....elex or argons!?
@@kbeau937 Tough choice both are excellent. Argon for fun and musicality, Elex for critical listening.
The thumbnail looks like ur holding some really small headphones
lol I never looked at it that way 😂
I just bought the fostex th00 ebony they sound amazing but left speaker is not working properly i will return it but since they are out of stock i was wondering how comparable the argon are to the ebony in sound?
Sorry to hear about your Ebony TH00 troubles.
Been a long time since I heard a TH00 Ebony and when I did it was a very brief listen. If memory serves me correctly, the Argon has deeper bass extension and slam. The TH00 is brighter in the treble and not as warm in the mids.
David Sylvia thanks that is really helpful its hard to find really good close back headphones 🎧
Very true, quality closed backs are hard to come by.
Fostex T50rp Mk3 Mayflower mod vs Stock T60rp. Which one is better and differences? Thx
@Meng Shi Lim I am sorry but I haven't heard a T60rp.
I know this is late but I’m new to this. My dac/amp has a balanced 4.4 pentaconn input for headphones. Will that be compatible with the balanced cable provided?
If yiur dac/amp has a 4.4rmm output for headphones, you'll need a balanced cable or an adapter that terminates in 4.4mm for the Argon.
To be clear (unless you've already bought them), *they don't include a balanced cable*. There seems to have been a misunderstanding between Modhouse and Honest Audiophile there. They have partnered with Periapt to make a cable for the Argon, which is probably why they included it with his review set, but it is sold separately.
Ok so the MOD is called MkIII? On Amazon they put T50rp MkIII so I was confused. So when you pay the 270 DL on the Mod House page the price includes the headphones + MkIII MOD and you can add all the extras like pads and balanced for a little more cash right?
The mod is Modhouse Argon. MkIII is the version of the Fostex driver used.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you kindly, I'm new to this so it helps me a lot.
My pleasure, you're welcome.
I like your content, I would love if you had more subscriptions, I have a question: I have a jds labs atom, you mention that argons work with this amplifier but they do not show their full potential, so what percentage of their total potential with super powerful amplifiers would I get with my atom?
I would say you are about 85-90% of potential with the Atom. Moving up to something like the Geshelli Labs Archel 2 or Erish will push them to potential.
@@TheHonestAudiophile It's very curious, because in theory the archell2 and the atom have almost the same power in their specifications, would you also recommend the new magnis? in their specs they are just as powerful as the Erish, but before that, do you think argons are the best choice for closed headphones in a price range of 500USD or less? or would you recommend some other model of closed headphones at that price?
Sub 500usd is a large group for the closed back market. Tons of options and depends on what you want for a sound signature. Modhouse Argon are a dark, detailed, bassy can. Beyerdynamic DT 177x Go is a great option for a more analytical sound that has fantastic bass.
There is a lot that goes into driving a headphone beside watt output, there is also current impedance. The Geshelli Labs Archel 2 and JDS Labs Atom are similar in power specs.
I was actually thinking of the Geshelli Labs Archel 2.5 when I responded earlier, it is xlr input and 1/4 output has a little more more power then the Atom and Archel 2 when paired with the Enog 2 Pro DAC. The Erish is a fully balanced amplifier and has way more power then any of the other amps mentioned.
I haven't heard any Magni amps in a review setting but I don't see anything wrong with them, they are a solid option. I would lean on the newer options.
David Sylvia thanks for the answers! going back to the closed back headphones, you prefer the argons over the 177X go i read it over there, or am I wrong?
What other balanced amps would you suggest? I'm currently using the THX 887 with these balanced of course and I think there's a limiter when I hit certain decibels. A red light comes on and cuts the audio.
Hmmm sorry to hear that. I like the Drop THX 789 and Geshelli Labs Erish for balanced with T50rp mods.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I'm still new to this... should it make a difference if I have it connected to the wall instead of the power strip that its currently connected to now?
Depends on the quality of the power strip . Some cheap power strip can add noise.
@@TheHonestAudiophile well its to the wall now still having the same issue. You haven't experienced this the argon balanced cable?
@@ManilaSlim I didn't have any issues with the loaned Argon when I reviewed it.
Better sound, Sony Z7M2 or the Argon? Thanks.
I'd take the T60 Argon over both the Sony Z7M2 or T50 Argon.
@@TheHonestAudiophile thanks for the response.
@@fbi8364 my pleasure, you're welcome.
Can you suggest an budget Amplifier for that ?
Geshelli Labs Archel, Schiit Audio Heresy
@@TheHonestAudiophile one of the most asked questions on the Internet,thanks for the info
My pleasure, you're welcome.
Next do the Dekoni Blue please
The background music doesn't make it better.. it's useless, intrusive; otherwise, nice informative stuff. Thank you
Thanks for the feedback.
Are there people gaming for any reason other than fun? Hmmm. That’s odd...how old are these people?
Of course, there are many reasons to game besides fun. There are a lot of paying competitions. I don't partake in any of them but I do enjoy gaming for sure.
Thanks for watching and commenting.