This is the best Oneness vs Trinity debate I have ever listened to. I’ve listed to it many many times and point others to this video when they need to gain understanding of the apostolic doctrine. Jesus is the One True God!
@@brianaholbrook7337 He doesn't care what is said or taught, he is only being argumentative - he poses this question all over every Oneness responses. But he will not answer any questions posed to him: I have asked him, if you do believe in a trinity then who fathered the baby Jesus - the Father? Or, the Holy Spirit? Since he was conceived in the womb of Mary? (This is a more detailed question, but I merely asked a shorter form of it) He has never responded to it, because this is as pointless as asking who was Jesus praying to in the Garden or on the Cross). Christianity isn't my religion. Judaism is, but my relationship is with Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus Christ) which is the bases of my faith. I stand firm in the law of grace (covenant) mitzvah (commandment) The first is Hear O Isreal YHWH our God, YHWH is one (Theological proper. Yeshua ha Mashiach, He is the Incarnation of God - God in flesh (Christology). and so on.
HERE is The Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH And the Word was made flesh and dwelled among us . Word meaning LOGOS . The father was not a Father until the LOGOS became the Son at his incarnation and it was the Holy Spirit that overshadowed Mary in order to perform this . No man has seen God at any time . Jesus was seen and touched by humans .God reveals us in his essence as a triune being many times in the bible so I can't see your point as far as the bible goes . The first name for God in the Bible is Elohim and it's PLURAL meaning more than one .
@@derekbaker777 When God said "Let US make man in our image and in our likeness " that was Elohim a plural name making man with a body soul and spirit .Jesus said He must go so the Holy Spirit could come here and Fill Believers as He ( Holy Spirit ) Empowers comforts .nd teaches the believers .At the mount of they transfiguration we are introduced to the Father who spoke from Heaven ,Holy Spirit descending and Jesus in His Glory Peter James and John were there The Psalms are loaded with passages showing the the nature of the Godhead is more than one being of the total makeup .Psalm 110:1and Matthew 22:24 .YHVH said unto my Lord would be a correct translation I can't see the bible the same way that you do when I read it as one continuous book and not with man inserted chapters and verses .
@@derekbaker777 Nonsense , ELOHIM (Plural) was speaking as the Godhead or the Word was announcing the intent of ELOHIM meaning more than one . His and He being understood as the triune Godhead . God has a makeup in His Nature and He is showing us throughout the bible His very nature . There are not 3 Gods but one God in 3 expressions of His eternal being . Jesus was the Word from the beginning and in the incarnation He became the Son just as God became the Father at that point as Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary in conception .Sure you can look at God and bring Him into a neat little package to fit your church doctrine but He is who He is and nothing changes ..
The Lord Jesus Christ has a Father. HE IS NOT THE FATHER OF HIM SELF .The One ness doctrine. Was FIRST TOUGHT IN 1914 Does anybody know that THE SAME YEAR THE Jws? ALSO TOUGHT THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST CAME BACK ... not
Ya, he knows his stuff. I googled him and he appears instantly. Qualified for this debate. Begs the question. Why have they pitted him against a lightweight. Stammering, apologizing for mistakes in his presentation. I googled Gene Cook and he doesn't appear. Have Bernard debate someone like a MacArthur, or a Sproul. A random NBA player will pound a neighbourhood hacker but he probably wouldn't beat Michael Jordan in a one on one. This was an endeavor organized for a poor participant to fail, in my opinion. Don't see this issue as resolved because of a lopsided performance. All things were not equal here.
@@1martywilsonI agree, it wasn't fair and the sides are not equal. But truth will always outshine a lie. God's doctrine will always outshine a false man made doctrine. Case in point every single water baptism that was ever mentioned in the Bible was always, always, Always, done in the name of the Lord Jesus.
I agree with the 2 commentators, not being equal. One has the truth and 1 has a line faults. Doctrine and a truth will always beat out a lie. So in that aspect, no, it's not fair. But the truth will always be better than a false doctrine
@@theodoreritola7641 Even before Jesus came to Earth,the Jewish people who owned the OLD TESTAMENT bible (Judaism Tanakh) doesn't believe the Trinity bruhh..
@@DanielJ1776 Not personalities, three persons who are of the same essence and are all fully God, Colossians 2:9 speaks of Christ so if God dwells in him fully is he not God in the flesh. What amazes me is how Unitarians limit God and try to make sense of his nature and true essence but our limited mind can never comprehend the fullness of God so there will be mysteries. Peace be with you brother
It's sad that Gene Cook doesn't pay more attention to what and how Dr. Bernard is explaining truth. If he would allow God to speak to him, I believe that God would give him a revelation of the One True God manifest in the body of Jesus Christ for the redemption of man. Too many people are bound by tradition and cannot see beyond their preconceived ideas. We all must seek truth prayerfully with an open heart to what God desires to reveal to us. Thank you Dr. Bernard for sharing this material. I believe that we are going to see a great revival in these last days and many coming to the revelation of this wonderful truth!
God's revelation of himself is clear in the bible that is why Jesus Christ uses the pronoun "We"! Jesus Christ is not the Father because if Jesus is the Father then who is his Father!? The word Father and Son will be nonsense if he was the Son at the same time his Father is himself!
Asor Mullet Understand what pastor David K. Bernard is preaching...I suggest you listen to David K. Bernards explanation if u want to understand the oneness theology....also u must know that JESUS CHRIST has dual NATURE....which is FULLY MAN and FULLY GOD....so if JESUS is stating that he has a FATHER...which means he is speaking in his MAN NATURE.
@Bob Smith Of course Im using my mind that's why I believe that there is only one TRUE GOD... But sadly most people don't know who their GOD is.... I didn't believe in the theology... But rather what was the TRUTH in the theology... If u don't want the theology... Then let's say I BELIEVE that GOD is ONE and His name is JESUS CHRIST....lets remove theology if u want
@@Kosi_Revaya according to the gospel of the oneness movements of course. Pls stop that the Church of Jesus Christ is beyond any evangelical movement , no oneness movement or movements are the 8th wonder of the world.
He then makes the Apostle John a liar, who said the "true God, is both the Father and the Son". Jesus is revealed in the very last appearance of the Throne as the Lamb, not the Son. The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world (Jesus is everlasting God, neither beginning or end). The Son eventually ends that role when the Kingdom is completed. (1Cor 15:24) 1 John 5:20 NASB95 _And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding_ so that *_we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God_* _and eternal life._ Revelation 22:3 KJV And there shall be no more curse: but *the throne of God **_and_** of the Lamb* shall be in it; and *_his servants shall serve him:_* Revelation 13:8 KJV And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of *_the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world._*
@User_at_777 when you get to heaven you're not going to see a lamb...but one throne and one who sits on the throne... Jesus he is the image of the invisible God ...
Finally a better version! By far one of the the best debates on "Oneness vs Trinity" God Is One Deut 6:4 Isaiah 44:8 & 24 Isaiah 45:5-6 Isaiah 43:10-11 Isaiah 9:6 Matt 1:23 Acts 2:38
The word worship comes from the Greek PROSKUNEO and means worship, homage, reverence, tribute. if every time this word is presented or occurs in the Bible we are going to translate worship then we would fall into idolatry of men because the word PROSKUNEO is applied to men in the scriptures also. 1) APOCALYPSE 3: 9, 2) GENESIS 19:1, 3) 2 SAMUEL 14: 22 4) Exodus 18: 7 5) 1 Kings 1: 23 6) 1 Chronicles 29: 20,24; ect the word PROSKUNEO needs to be translated depending on the context Jesus never received worship what he received was great reverence, tribute, and great homage. the worship is reserved only to the Father and the only truth God. John 17: 3
Pastor Cook got Schooled, hope that he saw the light, both gentlemen exhibited what a man of God should be, thanks Dr Bernard, I am so grateful for your example and teachings
I am so blessed by this! I hope that everyone knows that this is not to get Trinitarian and Oneness believers to fight each other but to make us understand further both of the doctrines of these two beliefs. I am a one God believer and I'm glad to have deepened my knowledge and understanding of my doctrine and the doctrine of the trinitarians. God bless you all!
@@grey0966 Jesus was showing us to pray to God and remember God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. Almighty, present everywhere completely independent of time, for He is time, and full of all knowledge 😉
I'ved watched this debate 12 years ago and it still amazing. Glory to the one and true God Jesus Christ. God bless Dr. David K. Bernard for your excellent job in defending the oneness of God and full deity of Christ as well as the new birth according to Acts 2:38
amen! I was beyond amazing listening to this preaching and being able to know a Trinitarians POV as well. Glory to our God and Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
Thank God for the truth and Dr. David K. Bernard Jr. Explaining the Oneness of God so plainly. I pray thqt this Truth is revealed to All throughout the world.
I'm in the office listening to this and I'd stop every now and then to make a soft clap and mutter Amen to every point and awesome response Bro.Bernard make 😂😂😂
@@seggy4616 . . WOW! That's quite a bold statement to say that (1 John 5:7) in the Authorized KJV is fabricated. I'd be much more concerned for those translators who chose to completely "omit" that verse from most of the other English versions.
@@grey0966 jesus is God and man at the same times, jesus is praying just like us has a human he have the same feeling like us when we get weaked we go to pray.
@@grey0966 The Son is praying to the Spirit.. Jesus is 100% human so He can pray,, if He doesn't pray,, He would be not a good example to christians.. He experienced all we can possibly experience except from sin.. In His humanity He prayed to the Godhead that is also inside of Him.. Col. 2:9 For in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead.. Isaiah 9:6 speaking of a son, a child that is also the Almighty and the eternal Father.. So one eternal personal God manifested in the flesh.. 1 Tim. 3:16..
@@exsorcamacho9114 you have no clue what you speak of. The verse about the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in Jesus isn’t saying that He’s the only member of the Godhead, what it’s saying is that in His humanity He was still fully God. The scriptures teach the Father, the Son,and the Holy Spirit.
@@dontespicer1901 okay.. So if the Godhead is the totality of Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, and the Godhead is in Jesus (Col.2:9), if Jesus is the Son only as you believe, then you mean that the Son is in the Son?? How can Jesus be a part of the Godhead only if the Godhead is in Him?? How can you be a part of you and you are inside of you??
@jordan19862000 name means name..the authority is in the name not titles..when you purchase anything it must be in your name your titles don't identify who you are you are identified by your name...the authority is solely in your NAME
@@horetaepere8622 1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son? 5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
I'm so proud of my Apostolic Pentecostal heritage ❤. I pray that pastors like Pastor Coopers understanding gets opened so they can start preaching the truth . Honestly, he looked like towards the end when people were able to ask questions that he was sure what he was saying was even true smh .
@@ChrisJackson-jk6im 1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son? 5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
I was in trinity churches for years...was baptised 4 times in their titles...not name, but titles, with nothing happening. Finally came to Pentecost at 29 years old, was baptised in the name of Jesus after repenting, and received the holy ghost with evidence of speaking in other tongues. On top of this, while I was still in the water, a demon came out of me first! The most inhuman sounds came out of me when that demon left, sounds no human could make. Only after I was clean did the holy ghost then dwell within me and I began speaking in tongues then. It was the single most incredible best thing to ever happened to me in my life. So, I have physical evidence of both dark and light spiritual world and physical evidence of the oneness of the Lord. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh.
You mean God the spirit is Jesus christ which is flesh.. not Jesus is God.. because Jesus is NOT GOD.. GOD IS SPIRIT.. and only spirit, who came in flesh, and is still in the flesh.. the trinity is a true doctrine.. not a false doctrine.. the father, the son, holy spirit are 1 indeed.. not 3 person.. we as trinity believer say person, which is a word we do not prefer, and do not like to use.. because we know there is no 3 different people.. just like you.. me and you have a body and a spirit or soul.. body, soul... body, spirit.. but does that make you 2 different people, no it does not.. Jesus christ would represent the same thing.. not 2 or 3 different persons..there is no other, no second, yea, he hath no child nor brother.. which means the son, would also be God himself in flesh.. father, son, spirit.. are 1.. and minus my difference in belief, David Bernard teaches the true gospel of Jesus christ.. he is definitely 1 of the better preacher's.. what David Bernard is saying, is almost the same thing as trinity.. they are all 3 as 1 just as Bible states.. trinity is not on Bible, but neither is the word Bible, but we know it's the Bible.. just like we know there is no 3 God's.. but the bible mentions 3 who bare record in heaven.. all 3 are 1 God.. just as Jesus said himself.. now, tongues.. nobody has spoken in tongues for almost 2,000 years.. the last man to speak in tongues was an apostle.. they are dead.. not 1 man spoke in tongues after that time.. why has there been almost a 2,000 year period where no man spoke tongues.. why??.... Edit.. I didn't mean it as Jesus is not God.. I'm only meaning God is Jesus christ, because the man Jesus bled and died.. and then God resurrected that man and become flesh.. so no I wasn't meaning you were wrong.. sorry bout that. I wanted to Edit to make that clear.. God bless brother..
This is interesting, I want to inform you that just because you were baptized that many times has nothing to do with the “titles” you were baptized by, you just weren’t truly surrendered I was baptized in a baptist church as well and I was certainly saved baptized in the name of the Father Son Holy Spirit, and my understanding at that time I thought I was going to speak in tongues after I came out of the water but it didn’t happen , fast forward about 6-7 months I left that church as I felt I wasn’t being fed and was rather bored at the preaching ended up going to a non denominational church which in disguise was definitely Pentecostal, well let’s just say I got baptized in the Holy Spirit spoke with tongues and the next day a devil at my work manifested in demonic tongues, no lie, but I want to help you to understand something that I had a pastor lay hands on me at that church and all of the sudden i was dealing with demonic attacks left right and centre, I also noticed that I started to believe in oneness doctrine, I never studied or thought about why but I started to believe it, fast forward again a few more months I started to go through deliverance as I discovered that the pastor had sin and therefore when he laid hands on me was transferred, so that was where that spirit of error came from, I am now free and those attacks no more happening I delve into scripture to find the truth about this matter and there is too much evidence that God is triune I’ll give you one verse that should really open your eyes and how there is a spirit of error trying to blind you to who God is. “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” John 16:12-15 KJV Jesus clearly says here that the Spirit is a distinct person “him” we cannot deny the whole of scripture is God one? Yes of course he’s also 3 shalom, pray God will give you understanding
The rock in the wilderness is the same stone the biulders rejected sending. "For who is God ,save the LORD? and who is a rock,save our God?" "For thou art my rock and my fortress;therefore for thy name's sake lead me and guide me."
As always I'm ending up blessed Whit the teachings of pastor David Bernard. Also appreciate you sharing of this video for reference on the how to open the eyes of our miscarried trinitarian loved ones
Please open my trinitarian pentacoastal eyes, my brother in Christ. Because I thought you oneoness folk think of us as pagan all along, didn't you? Gbu always
@@mrgeorge1888i see trinity , baptist and people in other christian denominations sometimes as little brothers trying to come to the LORD but unfortunately they get traped in the false theachings of people . Im not here to judge i only bring the truth like the apostoles did and hope you get it by the grace of Jesus God
@@hnomanyhernandez8862 God is one, this one God (the Father) in time of the creation spoke, and the Word (the Son / the Angel of the LORD/ the High Priest of the God in the Most High/ the Captain of the Army of the LORD of Host/ the Wonderful/ the Advisor/ the Almighty God/ the Everlasting Father/ the Prince of Peace/ the Son of man/ the man of sorrow/ the King of Kings/ the Lamb of God/ the God of Israel/ Lord Jesus Christ/ the Spirit of Jesus/ the Spirit of Truth/ the Spirit of Rightousness/ the Spirit of His Son/ the Spirit of the Lord) came out, as well is the Breath (the Wind/ the 7 Spirit of God/ the Holy Ghost, who are; 1.the Spirit of the Lord, 2.the Spirit of Wisdom, 3.the Spirit of Understanding, 4.the Spirit of Counsel 5.the Spirit of Might, 6.the Sprit of Knowledge, 7.the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord) came out too. That's the trinity, I really hope you'll understand. But it doesn't matter, as long as we have Love/ the Word/ Jesus Christ in us, we will come to heaven/ God the Father. " No one will come to the Father unless they come through Me" In Revelation the tribe of Dan is not listed, but there is yet the Gate of Dan in Ezekiel, Gbu, brother.
@@mrgeorge1888 my dear , i will conclude this conversacion whit the following statement " doctrinal apostolic /Jesus only followers" . And the reasoning of our doctrine is very simple Our LORD GOD JESUS became Theacher of the Apostoles and they wrote the new testament for us "everyone looking for salvación "they "the Apostles" baptised in the the name of Jesus , performed miracles in the name of Jesus and some of them where killed for their faith in Jesus so we also believe in the powerfull nane of JESUS . Amen . Gbu
Actually , I can whole heartily agree with Brother Bernard. For the Lord revealed to me out of the same Scriptures the Godhead , before I ever heard of Brother Bernard. Ro. 1: 18 - 23 Acts 19: 24-31 Col. 2: 9
@@grey0966 even though Jesus is fully man and fully God, we have to remember God is everywhere his spirit is. His spirit is eternally and ever present. David said if I ascend into heaven you are their. If I ascend into he'll you are there. Basically there's no place you can go where he's not already. As man Jesus prayed to God his father. And God he can speak to anyone from anywhere if he chooses.
This had me laughing my lungs off 😂 I'm sorry Gene Cook, I'm really sorry but you looked like you were panicking cause Bernard was shooting you all the truth that the Bible says. And also, you looked like you weren't so sure to what you said. With no controversy, it's clear who has won this debate and WHO said the truth ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. Thank you Rev. David Bernard, I'm truly greatful that I'm one of the group you are leading 😍♥️🙏🤗😇😇
@Shayneby Shaynebi I'm sure that no matter what and who we believe in, we have learned basic manners and respect for others. If you are a part of the trinitarian community, I suggest you fix your attitude and the way you address people because it does not only bring shame to your upbringing but also to the God you serve. Our God is righteous and has taught us to keep our conversations holy anytime and anywhere, I hope your God is the same. Because we set our eyes on becoming like the one we worship and adore, therefore we, the believers who are tasked to spread the gospel of God must show the world that the God we follow is a good-hearted and slow to anger by bearing the characteristics of a true Christian. I sure am not angry or annoyed at your comment, but I am saddened by the way you addressed the comment you replied to. He or she did not degrade or insult Trinitarianism, I hope you learn to respect every kind of religion no matter what they are. I am a one God believer and I am 17 years old, I address with you respect not only because I am younger but also because I know that the God that I believe in would be disappointed if I rebutted in a disrespectful way. God bless you brother and have a great day ahead!
@Shayneby Shaynebi Around 2:12:20 our fellow brother in oneness belief has shown acceptance in love to Gene Cook though we have different beliefs. I hope to share the love and acceptance to you as well. Your comment may have been the cause of the lack of pondering on whether it is morally correct and spiritually moral but I hope that God speaks to you and shows you that we have so much room for love just as he does for all of humanity.
@Shayneby Shaynebi I was once a trinitarian.. But when I think about our understanding of God,, I can always imagine a 3 headed cerberrus.. One being with 3 center of consciousness..
It is not funny. It is Scripture that there is but ONE GOD. If Rev cook walks away thinking of these scriptures it is a beginning. I was once in belief of the Trinity until I dove into church fathers instead of Scripture.
Truth is everything! So thankful for it...we are so blessed that the Lord revealed it to us! Where would we be without it? Love the truth to escape deception...
@@miniman1448 1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son? 5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
Show me one verse where Jesus is God is stated or God is Jesus. This statement would make God a lie. When He states on several occasions this is my son in whom I am well pleased.
I was a trinitarian for 2 years not anymore JESUS THE TRUE GOD save my soul in 2019 i was atheist thank you FATHER THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND KING THE FIRST AND THE LAST
WOW !!! - Honestly I had many sleepless nights and troubled mind on "my" position on the trinity - After examining scripture I strongly agreed with the "ONESS" and had to adjust my prayer points HOWEVER i still doubted. Then going through sermons and related scriptures it was validated in me that the ONESS position is TRUE. and my plan was to illustrate this in a document to defend my position should i be challenged. So I have made several documents (credit to Pst. Gino Jennings) on the affirmative of the ONESS Position. But still I was unable to collate it properly and perhaps in an ethical stance. Honestly GOD revealed the teaching of Dr David Bernard to me as I just came across your Channel. Honestly this debate had me in tears, Dr Bernard, I'm blown away by you in your humility, understanding and conveyance of scripture on this subject matter. THANK YOU !!!! it matter is now settled in my heart and in my spirit !!!! I THANK YAHUAH FOR YOU!!! MY YAHUAH ELOHIYM BLESS YOU AND INCREASE YOU !!!!
1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son? 5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
GOD IS 3 WITNESSES 1 John 5:7 New King James Version 7 For➡️ there are three that bear witness in heaven: ⬅️the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
FATHER IS A PERSON Hebrews 1:3 New King James Version 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of➡️ His person,⬅️ and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
@@jeffreytrinidad3564 1 John 5:7 is a controversial verse because part of it is absent from the earliest Greek manuscripts. The disputed section is: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Here's why its origins are considered questionable: 1. Manuscript Evidence: The longer form of this verse, including the reference to the Father, Word, and Holy Spirit, appears in very few Greek manuscripts, and those manuscripts date from much later (after the 14th century). The earliest and most reliable manuscripts, including those from the 2nd and 3rd centuries, do not contain this text. 2. Latin Influence: The passage appears in some Latin manuscripts (especially the Vulgate), and scholars believe it was likely added to support Trinitarian doctrine during debates in the Western church. Early church fathers, like Tertullian and Augustine, didn’t reference this specific phrase when discussing the Trinity, which suggests it wasn’t part of the original text. 3. Textual Criticism: Many textual scholars agree that the phrase was likely a later insertion. Erasmus, in his first edition of the Greek New Testament (1516), didn’t include it because it wasn’t found in any of the Greek manuscripts available to him. However, under pressure, he included it in his third edition after a single Greek manuscript surfaced with the text, but this manuscript is now widely considered a forgery. For these reasons, modern Bible translations, like the NIV and ESV, often omit the Comma Johanneum or place it in a footnote, acknowledging its questionable authenticity. Even if we accept 1 John 5:7 as authentic, it does not necessarily support the doctrine of the Trinity in the way Trinitarians claim. Here's why: 1. Use of "Word" Instead of "Son": The verse refers to "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost," not "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." If this were meant to explicitly teach the Trinity, we might expect it to use the term "Son" rather than "Word." In Oneness theology, the "Word" (Greek *Logos*) refers to God's expression or plan, which was made flesh in Jesus (John 1:14). This could easily fit within a Oneness framework where the Word is not a separate person but the same God manifest in different roles or modes. 2. The Term "These Three Are One": The phrase "these three are one" is used, but it doesn't explain how they are "one." Trinitarians interpret this as meaning they are one in essence or substance but distinct in persons. However, from a Oneness perspective, this can mean that these three are manifestations or aspects of the same God. Just as Jesus said in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one," Oneness theology understands this oneness as a unity of identity rather than separate persons sharing a divine nature. 3. Lack of Distinction in Persons: The verse does not state that the Father, Word, and Spirit are distinct persons. It simply affirms their unity. The Oneness position holds that God manifests Himself in different ways (as Father in creation, as the Son in redemption, and as the Holy Spirit in regeneration and indwelling believers) but remains one undivided being. There's no clear indication here of a three-person relationship. 4. Context of Testimony: The context of 1 John 5 is about the testimony that Jesus is the Son of God, and how God gives witness to this truth. Verses 8 and 9 continue to describe how the Spirit, water, and blood testify to this truth. These elements are not separate persons but manifestations of the ways in which God reveals and confirms His truth. Likewise, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost" can be understood as different ways God bears witness to Himself, not as a proof of a triune Godhead. In conclusion, even if 1 John 5:7 were considered authentic, it can be interpreted within a Oneness Pentecostal framework as affirming the oneness of God, not as a teaching of three distinct persons in one God.
What most trinitarians seem to forget is that God is omnipresent and is Everywhere at one time so of course He can be in the flesh in His human nature And in heaven as the father at one time showing us the relationship we are to have with the Father. He could've been around the corner talking with someone else at the same time!
This is epic! Thank you brother Cook for taking a hard line stance to defend Trinitarianism. I grew up and believed in Oneness for 20+ years. The Holy Spirit has changed my mind to see what the Bible actually says. Thank you for speaking the true word God!
Well that’s a shame, may I ask what was the point that truly turned you away from the Oneness Doctrine not trying to say you are wrong or debate you but I’m curious why some turn away and I just wanted your perspective
@@5warpotentials258 mine was because of my study of John. In the gospel according to John it’s recorded of Jesus being sent from heaven, from the Father, how He would go back to the Father, Jesus Christ Himself testifying 38 times how the Father had sent Him, but at the same time also teaching His own preexisting in glory with the Father before the world was, and how He was before Abraham. May God bless. Love you always.
I don’t believe one can have the revelation of oneness and go back on it. Please repent and return to the true faith. Or perhaps you never really had it. I don’t know. But God’s oneness is so painfully evident that to miss it is truly the work of the devil.
@@alexanderh2345 1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son? 5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
Matt. 28:19 Fulfills Isaiah 9:6 Act.2:38,Acts 4:12 Zech.14:9 One LORD,One Name, Yahshua Jesus Christ, No other name we are Saved by. Matt. 28:19 In the Name of the Father, and of the Son and of the HolySpirit,, Isaiah. 9:6 child born, a Son#2 is given His name Shall be call, Wonderful, Counselor, #3 Mighty God, Everlasting Father#1. The Child Born is called All Three Names of Matt. 28:19.. Everlasting FATHER(#1) SON(#2) is given Counselor#3 (HolySpirit#3) Counselor translates into the New Covenant means Comforter which is the HolySpirit#3 (Child Born). Galat. 4:4 Son Born of a woman Born under law. Rom.1;3 Concerning His Son, Made from the Seed of David according to the flesh,, Matt. 28:19 Talks about Baptism, Luke. 24:47(48) Talks about Repentance and Remissions of sins in His name, Yahshua (Jesus). So Peter Knew what Jesus wanted them to do,, Act.2:38 Repent and be baptized every one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the Remissions of sins and you will receive the HolySpirit,,,
You can live in True peace and love if you know who you served without a doubt, The Oneness of God is the most powerful knowledge that man can posses coz deep things about God and his will can easily be understand through the Holy Spirit, and comforts our hearts, Now i know why the Great Apostle Paul said "Who shall separate us from the love of God" Through this knowledge no One can separate us from the love of God..Hallelujah Jesus😭
I’m am so proud of my oneness understanding, the oneness is so clear to me !! The triune theory is two confusing and it doesn’t make sense to me, i will pray for Mr Cook for understanding..
This debate was years ago and here it is 2024 and was i ever blessed.. The Lord revealed to me that he is One God with 3 roles and it is a dividing doctrine but so lovely to hear how the men conducted themselves in a very godly manner and not like today where so much muck is thrown at one another..but we are in the end times and the love of many will wax cold.
THEN YOU JUST CONTRADICTED THE BIBLE 1 John 5:7 New King James Version 7➡️ For there are three that bear witness in heaven: ⬅️the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
Gene knew he lost and instead of him making his closing comments, he tried to rebottle Pastor Bernard. His PRIDE could not allow him to walk away. He sound real upset and those so call kind words really meant nothing, for he did not mean it. His PRIDE was CRUSHED.
This is the best oneness debate that I have ever seen. I use to be trinitarian when I went to a Baptist church and was baptized in titles. It never did nothing for me but led me further into the world. When I was baptized about 25 years ago in the name of Jesus christ. God revealed to me on several occasions about his oneness and many occasions. This is the best decision I ever did was giving my life over to one God Jesus. In Hebrew his name is yeshua, in English yeshua translates to Jesus. I speak English. I worship Jesus. Thank you Jesus the one true God for your blood.
Yes, which is why brother Cook has a lack of understanding of his own position, let alone a proper understanding of the Oneness position. He was reflecting on God's omnipresent nature, which he responds to this notion as though Jesus as God must also fill all space including satan.
For those who don't understand the omnipresent nature of God - there are two specific viewpoints about this position: one says that God fills every aspect of space (Ps 139:7-12) and everything is open before God (Heb 12:13). The problem here is that it doesn't prove or disprove everything for or against the Trinity or Oneness positions. Which is why I stated that brother Cook don't have a proper understanding of his own view of God, let alone the Oneness position of God.
The Oneness can only be taught by the Spirit and the trinity is taught by man. I came out of a AG church a I was taught to that the trinity was a mystery that I wouldn't understand it until I went to heaven. Praise be to God and I give him all the glory in Jesus name.
@@asormullet7176 The flesh, the Temple that when God became flesh. Find this in the KJV Bible. Please do not believe anything I tell you, find the truth for yourself. Duet. 6:4, Col.2:9, 2Tim.3:16, start there.
I have an incredible amount of respect for Gene Cook for competing as the away team. He made some great points too. As a faith-filled Pentecostal I will still admit that he made several arguments I had trouble accepting when I gave up all the Trinitarian beliefs I had in my early church life.
One thing I noticed throughout the debate is David Bernard is very calm and comfortable as he speaks of the Godhead. Gene Cook is consistently on defense and annoyed in his verbal and non-verbal behavior. It seems like David Bernard is letting scripture speak for itself, while Gene Cook is trying to argue his way to trinitarianism.
I am so Blessed ❤ Thank you Father for using You Son David to open up to us the revelation of the Oneness of the True and Living GOD who will not share HIS GLORY
A very strong spirit of deception twisting the word of God, don't think the devil comes with a pitchfork and horns but rather an angel of light, same since the beginning the serpent was crafty and subtle.
@@BFM777The Lord has always been 1 and will remain forever and ever as 1.God does not share his glory with other people for all glory and worship belongs to him, for only he is worthy. Your boy got schooled you just closed you ears and went on defensive mode. From a former trinitarian
@@thecovenant6482 I’m not a Trinitarian, first of all I don’t even know this person in the debate so he’s not my boy, oh and I used to believe in oneness, then I got delivered from that demon and allow the bible and the Holy Spirit teach me the truth, if you believe Jesus is the a father you deny the Son and therefore do not have the father ALSO.
Mr Cook🎉 you are simply superb. Right interpretation of the scriptures and the right revelation. God bless 🙏 you and your family and the ministry. Hallelujah 🙌
When Pastor Cook said that a “sinful and adulterous generation looked after a sign” it was all over but the shoutin. Bishop Bernard was on that like white on rice. Masterful debater and excellent lesson in n the oneness
Thank you so much Rev Bernard for clarifying this whole truth... I just don't know where these people came up with their trinitarian view that literally doesn't make sense. Jesus made it very CLEAR he said "I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE" how can God be three? one question we should ask trinitarians is this, how many thrones are in heaven?
@@jackwari9789 If the father rose from the grave then where is Jesus’s body? John 20:1-10 the disciples can’t find it, Galatians 1:1 the father rose Jesus and 2 Timothy 2:8 says the seed of David aka flesh rose. He had a bodily ressurection
1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son? 5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
God bless you, pastor Cook...I pray that you come to the knowledge of the truth of the oneness and the God head of Jesus Christ...be revealed to you by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
1) Is Father a person? 2) How many witnesses is God? 3) Did the Son already exist as a person in the Old Testament, even before his birth from Mary? 4) When Son died on the cross, whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
1timothée 3/16: le mystère de la piété et grand ❤️. Merci frère Bernard. Gloire au seul ET unique Dieu véritable tout puissant de l'univers notre Roi des rois notre Seigneur des seigneurs Jésus-Christ ❤️.
@@grey0966it wasn’t just that Jesus was praying to himself, He was showing us how to pray, Also the flesh was talking to the father but not that they were different persons.
David Bernard is the master of the Oneness of God! There were people that came with Pastor Cook that got baptized in Jesus' Name when this debate was over
25:01 Cook talks about how we were made in Gods image. If there was three gods and we were made in their image shouldn’t there be three of us? But since there is only 1 God that’s why there isn’t three of each of us but there is 1!
@@rickyhurtado Granted. But, quote the question in the trinity view in mind, from Nathan point - the first man was created in the image of God, shouldn't we also be one being with three distinct persons of each of us? If so, name all three distrinct persons in our one being? My response is that we are only dichotomy beings, spirit and flesh. At death, our body returns to the ground and our spirit returns to God. Likewise, Jesus is a dichotomy being, the God-Man.
Luke 24:45 says, Jesus opened his deciples understanding,...47: repentance and baptism is in Jesus Name! That what it means by Mat 28:19, so the Deciples did, beginning on the day of pentecost!
I am thankful that I lived long enough to see the truth of the one that's position. I came out of the worldwide Church of God with Herbert Armstrong and Garner Ted Armstrong on the radio. When they died off greed and such took over in the doctrine was destroyed not that they ever really understood the doctrine of Oneness. But it was a firm foundation for that time. Back in the 60s and 70s.
I remembered Herbert Armstrong, seeing him on television multiple times. But he made insanity comments about doctrines, but I did like him enough to subscribe to the Plain Truth magazine for about two years. Yet, I never agree with his positions.
I purchased this open debate years ago, but brother Cooke does an extremely poor job at representation the Trinity doctrine - he waste time by attacking the Oneness position, which he clearly doesn't understand. He panics, because he was completely unaware and under prepared at his task that he asked for to be involved.
@@rachybaby72 That is correct. He needs first clearly defined what believes, with as many verses as possible, and explain how the Trinity can be (ect) ... but allow the audience and viewers agree or disagree with his conclusions.
1:01:32 - 1:05:19 - It was between this time, Gene was exposed and made a fool of himself. Gene Cook asked if God is present in Satan. I thought the question was absolutely stupid, silly, and devilish, and he thought, if he asked the question, he would stump the Pastor. He showed how low he was willing to go, in order to stump the Pastor, but it did not work. His questions also made me cringe, for they were immature and childish.
I was embarrassed for Cook when he said that. I didn't understand what the point was... Is he saying that he doesn't believe God is everywhere? Yikes, if that's what he was implying. I didn't know that was a Trinitarian position.
While I find the scriptural discourse on both sides of this very interesting and both sides raising very valid questions I cannot help but think of The apostle Paul’s words of how knowledge puffs up. It is almost with a subtle sense of arrogance and pride that both sides of this debate present their arguments as if their understanding is the inherent absolute interpretation of the Scriptures. I think the concept of understanding the nature of God and the manifestation of His personage is way beyond human comprehension even with the Scriptures and the help of the Holy Spirit even the apostle Paul himself did not claim to have complete understanding in all matters and he was taken into the heavenly’s and received revelations that were unspeakable I think both of these men would be well served to consider his words: “For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.” 1 Corinthians 13:12 ESV Why don’t we unify and rally around what we do know to be clear the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and lay our theological doctrinal swords down and focus on saving a hurting dying world instead of trying to prove our camp of understanding right!
1:16:42 Who, being in the form of God, THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY to be equal with God. Philippians 2:6 modern translations stated this verse opposite of what the Authorized say to fit their false kenosis doctrine. Jesus didn't empty himself. His glory was veiled. John 1:14 John said we beheld His glory. When did john see His glory? At the transfiguration when He revealed it to Peter, James & John so again the kenosis or self emptying is false.
I was Saved, Baptized in the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues before I was water baptized. My problem is that " Without the Shedding of Blood there is no Remission of Sin" I can't see where water can wash away sin. John's Baptism of Repentance would have been enough but water could not take away sin. The Blood Sacrifices from Abel to the Cross all pictured what Jesus would do with His blood on the Cross.
@@jacobdaniellawson0417 So when were Peter the disciple's all the other Apostles Baptized in the Name of Jesus because everybody got Spirit Filled without their water baptism . We water baptize because Jesus tells us to .Salvation comes by Faith and Faith alone . You can't be Spirit Filled without being Born Again First . Justification comes by Faith in Jesus in the Son of God and the Atonement . He paid the price for our sin in full .
@@edge2sword186 Im not trying to prove anything I was just showing you some verses that they use when talking about baptism for remission of sins. I haven’t fully understood it myself all I can say is I was baptized in the name of Jesus and I did feel something very powerful and spiritual happen when I came out of the water. People present testified that my face was literally glowing like when Moses saw the glory of God. But I wasn’t being baptized in hopes of washing away my past sin I was being obedient to Gods word
@@jacobdaniellawson0417 Often times we have seen people with the glow of God on them with water baptism and many also spoke in tongues when they came up out of the water . This was in the Name of the Father ,Son and Holy Spirit formula not in the name of Jesus only . I see it as being in obedience to what Jesus said about baptism . There is first the Baptism of John which Jesus was baptized then baptism in the body of Christ next is water baptism and then baptism in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues . John's baptism is the baptism of repentance except in Jesus case it was a confirmation of who he was and the beginning of his public ministry .
I was there many years ago and to hear it over now it’s as powerful and clear as it was back then.
Jesus is King. Thank you Pastor Cook and Bishop Bernard. This cleared it all up for me. There is but ONE God. Deuteronomy 6:4.
2 john 9 Hebrews 7:25 one God and mediator who is alive in heaven at the right hand side of the father
Jesus is praying to Himself ?
@@nickblankenship2381 Jesus is praying to himself ?
@@grey0966 Jesus was all God, as well as all man, and so as a man, he was praying to God.
@@Gen-ZChristian I agree. Jesus in the flesh is the God-man. But it still seems wierd if He is praying to Himself
This is the best Oneness vs Trinity debate I have ever listened to. I’ve listed to it many many times and point others to this video when they need to gain understanding of the apostolic doctrine. Jesus is the One True God!
Amen
So Jesus was praying to himself?
@@grey0966 watch the video! The question is answered
@@brianaholbrook7337
He doesn't care what is said or taught, he is only being argumentative - he poses this question all over every Oneness responses.
But he will not answer any questions posed to him: I have asked him, if you do believe in a trinity then who fathered the baby Jesus - the Father? Or, the Holy Spirit? Since he was conceived in the womb of Mary?
(This is a more detailed question, but I merely asked a shorter form of it) He has never responded to it, because this is as pointless as asking who was Jesus praying to in the Garden or on the Cross).
Christianity isn't my religion. Judaism is, but my relationship is with Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus Christ) which is the bases of my faith.
I stand firm in the law of grace (covenant) mitzvah (commandment)
The first is Hear O Isreal YHWH our God, YHWH is one (Theological proper.
Yeshua ha Mashiach, He is the Incarnation of God - God in flesh (Christology).
and so on.
WHO WAS JESUS ALL WAYS PRAYING TO? Did God the father send him self to die on the cross
My goodness he knows his bible! I was a trinitarian for over 20 years, and more recently came out of it. This is fantastic debate.
HERE is The Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH And the Word was made flesh and dwelled among us . Word meaning LOGOS . The father was not a Father until the LOGOS became the Son at his incarnation and it was the Holy Spirit that overshadowed Mary in order to perform this . No man has seen God at any time . Jesus was seen and touched by humans .God reveals us in his essence as a triune being many times in the bible so I can't see your point as far as the bible goes . The first name for God in the Bible is Elohim and it's PLURAL meaning more than one .
@@derekbaker777 When God said "Let US make man in our image and in our likeness " that was Elohim a plural name making man with a body soul and spirit .Jesus said He must go so the Holy Spirit could come here and Fill Believers as He ( Holy Spirit ) Empowers comforts .nd teaches the believers .At the mount of they transfiguration we are introduced to the Father who spoke from Heaven ,Holy Spirit descending and Jesus in His Glory Peter James and John were there The Psalms are loaded with passages showing the the nature of the Godhead is more than one being of the total makeup .Psalm 110:1and Matthew 22:24 .YHVH said unto my Lord would be a correct translation I can't see the bible the same way that you do when I read it as one continuous book and not with man inserted chapters and verses .
@@derekbaker777 Nonsense , ELOHIM (Plural) was speaking as the Godhead or the Word was announcing the intent of ELOHIM meaning more than one . His and He being understood as the triune Godhead . God has a makeup in His Nature and He is showing us throughout the bible His very nature . There are not 3 Gods but one God in 3 expressions of His eternal being . Jesus was the Word from the beginning and in the incarnation He became the Son just as God became the Father at that point as Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary in conception .Sure you can look at God and bring Him into a neat little package to fit your church doctrine but He is who He is and nothing changes ..
@@derekbaker777 throne of God and of the Lamb. Daniel 7? How do you interpret this
This is one of the best Oneness vs Trinitarian Debate I have ever heard. I am listening to this debate over and over.
The Lord Jesus Christ has a Father. HE IS NOT THE FATHER OF HIM SELF .The One ness doctrine. Was FIRST TOUGHT IN 1914 Does anybody know that THE SAME YEAR THE Jws? ALSO TOUGHT THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST CAME BACK ... not
Can the HOLY SPIRIT BE BLASPHEMED ? What Happens? THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. Believed that had father had forsaken him
Are you and your father the same person?
Who is YOUR redeemer your mediator? Did God the Father die on the cross?
who was Jesus all ways praying to?
David Bernard is THE best in teaching the oneness of God ! Absolutely Amazing !! God bless David Bernard !!
Ya, he knows his stuff. I googled him and he appears instantly. Qualified for this debate. Begs the question. Why have they pitted him against a lightweight. Stammering, apologizing for mistakes in his presentation. I googled Gene Cook and he doesn't appear. Have Bernard debate someone like a MacArthur, or a Sproul. A random NBA player will pound a neighbourhood hacker but he probably wouldn't beat Michael Jordan in a one on one. This was an endeavor organized for a poor participant to fail, in my opinion. Don't see this issue as resolved because of a lopsided performance. All things were not equal here.
He’s wrong though.
@@1martywilsonI agree, it wasn't fair and the sides are not equal.
But truth will always outshine a lie.
God's doctrine will always outshine a false man made doctrine.
Case in point every single water baptism that was ever mentioned in the Bible was always, always, Always, done in the name of the Lord Jesus.
@1martywilson That's one of many points that I had. But just not enough room to comment post here
I agree with the 2 commentators, not being equal. One has the truth and 1 has a line faults. Doctrine and a truth will always beat out a lie. So in that aspect, no, it's not fair. But the truth will always be better than a false doctrine
I’ve never heard the oneness position explained so clearly in my life!
Genich I vs 26 then God said let ... us... make man in .,,our...and in.... our.... like ness.
@@theodoreritola7641 Even before Jesus came to Earth,the Jewish people who owned the OLD TESTAMENT bible (Judaism Tanakh) doesn't believe the Trinity bruhh..
@@lalremruataralte2025It’s just the word trinity they did not use but it was taught all over the OT
@@leeroy916chapter and verse that says three different personalities!
@@DanielJ1776 Not personalities, three persons who are of the same essence and are all fully God, Colossians 2:9 speaks of Christ so if God dwells in him fully is he not God in the flesh. What amazes me is how Unitarians limit God and try to make sense of his nature and true essence but our limited mind can never comprehend the fullness of God so there will be mysteries. Peace be with you brother
It's sad that Gene Cook doesn't pay more attention to what and how Dr. Bernard is explaining truth. If he would allow God to speak to him, I believe that God would give him a revelation of the One True God manifest in the body of Jesus Christ for the redemption of man. Too many people are bound by tradition and cannot see beyond their preconceived ideas. We all must seek truth prayerfully with an open heart to what God desires to reveal to us.
Thank you Dr. Bernard for sharing this material. I believe that we are going to see a great revival in these last days and many coming to the revelation of this wonderful truth!
Mike Schmelzer Amen!
God's revelation of himself is clear in the bible that is why Jesus Christ uses the pronoun "We"! Jesus Christ is not the Father because if Jesus is the Father then who is his Father!? The word Father and Son will be nonsense if he was the Son at the same time his Father is himself!
Asor Mullet Understand what pastor David K. Bernard is preaching...I suggest you listen to David K. Bernards explanation if u want to understand the oneness theology....also u must know that JESUS CHRIST has dual NATURE....which is FULLY MAN and FULLY GOD....so if JESUS is stating that he has a FATHER...which means he is speaking in his MAN NATURE.
@Bob Smith Of course Im using my mind that's why I believe that there is only one TRUE GOD... But sadly most people don't know who their GOD is.... I didn't believe in the theology... But rather what was the TRUTH in the theology... If u don't want the theology... Then let's say I BELIEVE that GOD is ONE and His name is JESUS CHRIST....lets remove theology if u want
@Bob Smith What is ur belief about GOD?
THIS WILL FOREVER BE LEGENDARY AND PROOF OF THE APOSTOLIC FAITH! Thankful for Pastor Bernard
Be quite oneness movements are not all that nor the 7th wonder of the world
Yeah, they're the foundation of the world 😁
@@Kosi_Revaya yes of course they are .
@@RicardoGarcia-kv8it The Oneness movement traces back to the earliest days of God's relationship with Man at Adam. Your legacy began with Tertullian.
@@Kosi_Revaya according to the gospel of the oneness movements of course. Pls stop that the Church of Jesus Christ is beyond any evangelical movement , no oneness movement or movements are the 8th wonder of the world.
What a clear explanation about the One True God is. .... Pastor D. Bernard..May God bless & use you more.
He then makes the Apostle John a liar, who said the "true God, is both the Father and the Son". Jesus is revealed in the very last appearance of the Throne as the Lamb, not the Son. The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world (Jesus is everlasting God, neither beginning or end). The Son eventually ends that role when the Kingdom is completed. (1Cor 15:24)
1 John 5:20 NASB95
_And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding_ so that *_we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God_* _and eternal life._
Revelation 22:3 KJV
And there shall be no more curse: but *the throne of God **_and_** of the Lamb* shall be in it; and *_his servants shall serve him:_*
Revelation 13:8 KJV
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of *_the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world._*
1Jn 5:7 KJV For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Who was Jesus talking to on the cross my God why he believing that his Father has forsaking him?
@User_at_777 when you get to heaven you're not going to see a lamb...but one throne and one who sits on the throne... Jesus he is the image of the invisible God ...
@@horetaepere8622And who is sitting at the right hand of the Father? The Son.
Finally a better version! By far one of the the best debates on "Oneness vs Trinity"
God Is One
Deut 6:4
Isaiah 44:8 & 24
Isaiah 45:5-6
Isaiah 43:10-11
Isaiah 9:6 Matt 1:23
Acts 2:38
The word worship comes from the Greek PROSKUNEO and means worship, homage, reverence, tribute.
if every time this word is presented or occurs in the Bible we are going to translate worship then we would fall into idolatry of men because the word PROSKUNEO is applied to men in the scriptures also.
1) APOCALYPSE 3: 9, 2) GENESIS 19:1, 3) 2 SAMUEL 14: 22 4) Exodus 18: 7 5) 1 Kings 1: 23
6) 1 Chronicles 29: 20,24; ect
the word PROSKUNEO needs to be translated depending on the context Jesus never received worship what he received was great reverence, tribute, and great homage. the worship is reserved only to the Father and the only truth God. John 17: 3
Trinitarians put an asterisk beside the term one God.
Only one Godhead in Christ Amen
One God in Christ 2Corithians5:19 Amen
Yes,God is Echad!
this was the most civilized debate I've ever listened to.
Pastor Cook got Schooled, hope that he saw the light, both gentlemen exhibited what a man of God should be, thanks Dr Bernard, I am so grateful for your example and teachings
Facts
Show me just 1 verse that says "Father is the only God"
This was the first time I've ever heard of David Bernard and I've must have heard this debate at least 4 or 5 time. Love the oneness of God
Was Jesus praying to Himself in garden ?
@@grey0966 Nope. He was praying to God.
@@philos_theos ? Jesus is God
@@grey0966 Amen. Jesus is God
@@philos_theos amen ! Praise Jesus !
Glory to God Pastor David K. Bernard 🙌🙌🙌 The oneness of God 🙌
I am so blessed by this! I hope that everyone knows that this is not to get Trinitarian and Oneness believers to fight each other but to make us understand further both of the doctrines of these two beliefs. I am a one God believer and I'm glad to have deepened my knowledge and understanding of my doctrine and the doctrine of the trinitarians. God bless you all!
Jesus was praying to himself ?
@@grey0966 Jesus was showing us to pray to God and remember God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. Almighty, present everywhere completely independent of time, for He is time, and full of all knowledge 😉
@@Domjavy amen my brother! Grace be with you. Why did Jesus say He did not know the time or hour? Only the Father?
well said.
Trinitarians are also one God believers. Do you understand that?
I'ved watched this debate 12 years ago and it still amazing. Glory to the one and true God Jesus Christ.
God bless Dr. David K. Bernard for your excellent job in defending the oneness of God and full deity of Christ as well as the new birth according to Acts 2:38
amen! I was beyond amazing listening to this preaching and being able to know a Trinitarians POV as well. Glory to our God and Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
Thank God for the truth and Dr. David K. Bernard Jr. Explaining the Oneness of God so plainly. I pray thqt this Truth is revealed to All throughout the world.
Oneness doctrine is heretical
@@elleddiana Trinity is False. It is a Lie From Hell. Obey Acts 2:38
@@jacobmelmida9375 praying the Lord opens your eyes to the truth so you may see that oneness is a heretical doctrine
I'm in the office listening to this and I'd stop every now and then to make a soft clap and mutter Amen to every point and awesome response Bro.Bernard make 😂😂😂
Thank the LORD..!!!
1Jn 5:7 KJV For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
@@harvestworkers626 fabricated verse to try and validate the false belief of trinity
@@seggy4616 . . WOW! That's quite a bold statement to say that (1 John 5:7) in the Authorized KJV is fabricated.
I'd be much more concerned for those translators who chose to completely "omit" that verse from most of the other English versions.
Mr. Bernard you are used to deceive but you can't deceive the elect !
Clear and perfectly that there is one God and his name is Jesus ,❤️🙌
Was Jesus praying to Himself ?
@@grey0966 jesus is God and man at the same times, jesus is praying just like us has a human he have the same feeling like us when we get weaked we go to pray.
100%perfect!
@@grey0966that's a good point. I'm not sure of the answer myself.
@@azulthamourtiw3669why would you pray to yourself that's like the left leg praying to the right leg.
Goosebumps 2:09:53
Oh hallelujah Jesus!! The one true God and King of kings!!
Jesus is praying to Himself ?
@@grey0966 The Son is praying to the Spirit.. Jesus is 100% human so He can pray,, if He doesn't pray,, He would be not a good example to christians.. He experienced all we can possibly experience except from sin.. In His humanity He prayed to the Godhead that is also inside of Him.. Col. 2:9 For in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead.. Isaiah 9:6 speaking of a son, a child that is also the Almighty and the eternal Father..
So one eternal personal God manifested in the flesh.. 1 Tim. 3:16..
@@exsorcamacho9114 grace be with you 🙏✝️. Their is evidence of three as well though. This is a tough one to grasp
@@exsorcamacho9114 you have no clue what you speak of. The verse about the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in Jesus isn’t saying that He’s the only member of the Godhead, what it’s saying is that in His humanity He was still fully God. The scriptures teach the Father, the Son,and the Holy Spirit.
@@dontespicer1901 okay.. So if the Godhead is the totality of Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, and the Godhead is in Jesus (Col.2:9), if Jesus is the Son only as you believe, then you mean that the Son is in the Son?? How can Jesus be a part of the Godhead only if the Godhead is in Him?? How can you be a part of you and you are inside of you??
Thank you Pastor Cook,my greatest wish would be see you baptized in the name of Jesus.
@ReyWho not really name not titles
@@horetaepere8622”name” means authority
@@TheRuggedWay rubbish
@jordan19862000 name means name..the authority is in the name not titles..when you purchase anything it must be in your name your titles don't identify who you are you are identified by your name...the authority is solely in your NAME
@@horetaepere8622
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
I'm so proud of my Apostolic Pentecostal heritage ❤. I pray that pastors like Pastor Coopers understanding gets opened so they can start preaching the truth . Honestly, he looked like towards the end when people were able to ask questions that he was sure what he was saying was even true smh .
You shouldn’t be, you belive in a false idiotic doctrine 🤣
@@ChrisJackson-jk6im It already does.
@@ChrisJackson-jk6im
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
All time favorite! Didn’t want it to end!
I love the cross examination part of this debate. I think more debates ought to have that part included.
I was in trinity churches for years...was baptised 4 times in their titles...not name, but titles, with nothing happening. Finally came to Pentecost at 29 years old, was baptised in the name of Jesus after repenting, and received the holy ghost with evidence of speaking in other tongues. On top of this, while I was still in the water, a demon came out of me first! The most inhuman sounds came out of me when that demon left, sounds no human could make. Only after I was clean did the holy ghost then dwell within me and I began speaking in tongues then. It was the single most incredible best thing to ever happened to me in my life. So, I have physical evidence of both dark and light spiritual world and physical evidence of the oneness of the Lord. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh.
You mean God the spirit is Jesus christ which is flesh.. not Jesus is God.. because Jesus is NOT GOD.. GOD IS SPIRIT.. and only spirit, who came in flesh, and is still in the flesh.. the trinity is a true doctrine.. not a false doctrine.. the father, the son, holy spirit are 1 indeed.. not 3 person.. we as trinity believer say person, which is a word we do not prefer, and do not like to use.. because we know there is no 3 different people.. just like you.. me and you have a body and a spirit or soul.. body, soul... body, spirit.. but does that make you 2 different people, no it does not.. Jesus christ would represent the same thing.. not 2 or 3 different persons..there is no other, no second, yea, he hath no child nor brother.. which means the son, would also be God himself in flesh.. father, son, spirit.. are 1.. and minus my difference in belief, David Bernard teaches the true gospel of Jesus christ.. he is definitely 1 of the better preacher's.. what David Bernard is saying, is almost the same thing as trinity.. they are all 3 as 1 just as Bible states.. trinity is not on Bible, but neither is the word Bible, but we know it's the Bible.. just like we know there is no 3 God's.. but the bible mentions 3 who bare record in heaven.. all 3 are 1 God.. just as Jesus said himself.. now, tongues.. nobody has spoken in tongues for almost 2,000 years.. the last man to speak in tongues was an apostle.. they are dead.. not 1 man spoke in tongues after that time.. why has there been almost a 2,000 year period where no man spoke tongues.. why??....
Edit.. I didn't mean it as Jesus is not God.. I'm only meaning God is Jesus christ, because the man Jesus bled and died.. and then God resurrected that man and become flesh.. so no I wasn't meaning you were wrong.. sorry bout that. I wanted to Edit to make that clear.. God bless brother..
That's amazing, God is so good!!
Amen to you !!! I’m so happy for your deliverance and then being saved !!! Jesus is God !!! 💞💞🔥🔥
The same thing happened to me, I got in church at 18 tho.
This is interesting, I want to inform you that just because you were baptized that many times has nothing to do with the “titles” you were baptized by, you just weren’t truly surrendered I was baptized in a baptist church as well and I was certainly saved baptized in the name of the Father Son Holy Spirit, and my understanding at that time I thought I was going to speak in tongues after I came out of the water but it didn’t happen , fast forward about 6-7 months I left that church as I felt I wasn’t being fed and was rather bored at the preaching ended up going to a non denominational church which in disguise was definitely Pentecostal, well let’s just say I got baptized in the Holy Spirit spoke with tongues and the next day a devil at my work manifested in demonic tongues, no lie, but I want to help you to understand something that I had a pastor lay hands on me at that church and all of the sudden i was dealing with demonic attacks left right and centre, I also noticed that I started to believe in oneness doctrine, I never studied or thought about why but I started to believe it, fast forward again a few more months I started to go through deliverance as I discovered that the pastor had sin and therefore when he laid hands on me was transferred, so that was where that spirit of error came from, I am now free and those attacks no more happening I delve into scripture to find the truth about this matter and there is too much evidence that God is triune I’ll give you one verse that should really open your eyes and how there is a spirit of error trying to blind you to who God is.
“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.”
John 16:12-15 KJV
Jesus clearly says here that the Spirit is a distinct person “him” we cannot deny the whole of scripture is God one? Yes of course he’s also 3 shalom, pray God will give you understanding
The rock in the wilderness is the same stone the biulders rejected sending.
"For who is God ,save the LORD? and who is a rock,save our God?"
"For thou art my rock and my fortress;therefore for thy name's sake lead me and guide me."
Oneness believer now and forever.
As always I'm ending up blessed Whit the teachings of pastor David Bernard. Also appreciate you sharing of this video for reference on the how to open the eyes of our miscarried trinitarian loved ones
Please open my trinitarian pentacoastal eyes, my brother in Christ. Because I thought you oneoness folk think of us as pagan all along, didn't you? Gbu always
God is Spirit not person...
@@mrgeorge1888i see trinity , baptist and people in other christian denominations sometimes as little brothers trying to come to the LORD but unfortunately they get traped in the false theachings of people . Im not here to judge i only bring the truth like the apostoles did and hope you get it by the grace of Jesus God
@@hnomanyhernandez8862 God is one, this one God (the Father) in time of the creation spoke, and the Word (the Son / the Angel of the LORD/ the High Priest of the God in the Most High/ the Captain of the Army of the LORD of Host/ the Wonderful/ the Advisor/ the Almighty God/ the Everlasting Father/ the Prince of Peace/ the Son of man/ the man of sorrow/ the King of Kings/ the Lamb of God/ the God of Israel/ Lord Jesus Christ/ the Spirit of Jesus/ the Spirit of Truth/ the Spirit of Rightousness/ the Spirit of His Son/ the Spirit of the Lord) came out, as well is the Breath (the Wind/ the 7 Spirit of God/ the Holy Ghost, who are; 1.the Spirit of the Lord, 2.the Spirit of Wisdom, 3.the Spirit of Understanding, 4.the Spirit of Counsel 5.the Spirit of Might, 6.the Sprit of Knowledge, 7.the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord) came out too. That's the trinity, I really hope you'll understand. But it doesn't matter, as long as we have Love/ the Word/ Jesus Christ in us, we will come to heaven/ God the Father. " No one will come to the Father unless they come through Me" In Revelation the tribe of Dan is not listed, but there is yet the Gate of Dan in Ezekiel, Gbu, brother.
@@mrgeorge1888 my dear , i will conclude this conversacion whit the following statement " doctrinal apostolic /Jesus only followers" . And the reasoning of our doctrine is very simple Our LORD GOD JESUS became Theacher of the Apostoles and they wrote the new testament for us "everyone looking for salvación "they "the Apostles" baptised in the the name of Jesus , performed miracles in the name of Jesus and some of them where killed for their faith in Jesus so we also believe in the powerfull nane of JESUS .
Amen . Gbu
For the love of God RUN gene cook! Run away from that debate! You are getting absolutely schooled by this man! My lord....
Shut it up pls
@@RicardoGarcia-kv8it no. Not today Satan.
@@RicardoGarcia-kv8it smh lol it’s true tho
@@RicardoGarcia-kv8it Amén
Jesus prays to Himself ?
Actually , I can whole heartily agree with Brother Bernard. For the Lord revealed to me out of the same Scriptures the Godhead , before I ever heard of Brother Bernard. Ro. 1: 18 - 23 Acts 19: 24-31 Col. 2: 9
Was Jesus praying to Himself ?
@@grey0966 even though Jesus is fully man and fully God, we have to remember God is everywhere his spirit is. His spirit is eternally and ever present. David said if I ascend into heaven you are their. If I ascend into he'll you are there. Basically there's no place you can go where he's not already. As man Jesus prayed to God his father. And God he can speak to anyone from anywhere if he chooses.
@@jameskuhn4541 thanks for your response brother ! Grace be with you 🙏✝️
I absolutely this debate. Pastor Bernard explained it perfectly.
Yes exactly.
The more you understand One God, the clearer you can explain it-
This had me laughing my lungs off 😂 I'm sorry Gene Cook, I'm really sorry but you looked like you were panicking cause Bernard was shooting you all the truth that the Bible says. And also, you looked like you weren't so sure to what you said. With no controversy, it's clear who has won this debate and WHO said the truth ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. Thank you Rev. David Bernard, I'm truly greatful that I'm one of the group you are leading 😍♥️🙏🤗😇😇
@Shayneby Shaynebi I'm sure that no matter what and who we believe in, we have learned basic manners and respect for others. If you are a part of the trinitarian community, I suggest you fix your attitude and the way you address people because it does not only bring shame to your upbringing but also to the God you serve. Our God is righteous and has taught us to keep our conversations holy anytime and anywhere, I hope your God is the same. Because we set our eyes on becoming like the one we worship and adore, therefore we, the believers who are tasked to spread the gospel of God must show the world that the God we follow is a good-hearted and slow to anger by bearing the characteristics of a true Christian. I sure am not angry or annoyed at your comment, but I am saddened by the way you addressed the comment you replied to. He or she did not degrade or insult Trinitarianism, I hope you learn to respect every kind of religion no matter what they are. I am a one God believer and I am 17 years old, I address with you respect not only because I am younger but also because I know that the God that I believe in would be disappointed if I rebutted in a disrespectful way. God bless you brother and have a great day ahead!
@Shayneby Shaynebi Around 2:12:20 our fellow brother in oneness belief has shown acceptance in love to Gene Cook though we have different beliefs. I hope to share the love and acceptance to you as well. Your comment may have been the cause of the lack of pondering on whether it is morally correct and spiritually moral but I hope that God speaks to you and shows you that we have so much room for love just as he does for all of humanity.
@Shayneby Shaynebi I was once a trinitarian.. But when I think about our understanding of God,, I can always imagine a 3 headed cerberrus.. One being with 3 center of consciousness..
It is not funny. It is Scripture that there is but ONE GOD. If Rev cook walks away thinking of these scriptures it is a beginning.
I was once in belief of the Trinity until I dove into church fathers instead of Scripture.
@@exsorcamacho9114 I always use the Hydra as an example of trinitarianism. ^.^
Truth is everything! So thankful for it...we are so blessed that the Lord revealed it to us! Where would we be without it? Love the truth to escape deception...
Praise be God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit 🙏🙏🙏
Too bad those arent bible terms
God the son is not biblical terms
only one God exist deut 6.4
@SolomonChaun
Just show me 1 verse that says, "Father is the only God"
@@miniman1448
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
One is perfectly clear.Only One God JESUS CHRIST😍
Let "us" make mans in "our" image. We are made in the image of god. We are not made in the image of Angels or any other heavenly beings.
@@PreachingJesus In the image of God, I’m one just like God is ONE!
Was Jesus praying to Himself ?
Show me one verse where Jesus is God is stated or God is Jesus. This statement would make God a lie. When He states on several occasions this is my son in whom I am well pleased.
@@PreachingJesus was Jesus praying to himself ?
By the way Dr. Cook speaks, his facial expression and the tone of his voice, its looks like hes confused, and in panic.
He bit off more than he could chew. It's natural that he seems defensive most of the time
I was a trinitarian for 2 years not anymore JESUS THE TRUE GOD save my soul in 2019 i was atheist thank you FATHER THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND KING THE FIRST AND THE LAST
Proud of you Mr Bernard,,,only one God👍
WOW !!! - Honestly I had many sleepless nights and troubled mind on "my" position on the trinity - After examining scripture I strongly agreed with the "ONESS" and had to adjust my prayer points HOWEVER i still doubted. Then going through sermons and related scriptures it was validated in me that the ONESS position is TRUE. and my plan was to illustrate this in a document to defend my position should i be challenged. So I have made several documents (credit to Pst. Gino Jennings) on the affirmative of the ONESS Position. But still I was unable to collate it properly and perhaps in an ethical stance. Honestly GOD revealed the teaching of Dr David Bernard to me as I just came across your Channel. Honestly this debate had me in tears, Dr Bernard, I'm blown away by you in your humility, understanding and conveyance of scripture on this subject matter. THANK YOU !!!! it matter is now settled in my heart and in my spirit !!!! I THANK YAHUAH FOR YOU!!! MY YAHUAH ELOHIYM BLESS YOU AND INCREASE YOU !!!!
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
They need to do an updated version of this!
Updated version? Why?
No I agree David Bernard did a fantastic job but I was saying do another video like this again!
Don’t stop here make more videos on this topic!
@Ultimate Gamer Brother Bernard sure went to work with the scriptures, God bless that brother.
Amazing. Ive been considering Jesus Only and THIS POPPED UP ON MY PHONE!
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
This video must’ve been an answer from God, then! :)
Although, I wouldn't use the term “Jesus Only,” as we do not deny the Father or Holy Spirit.
GOD IS 3 WITNESSES
1 John 5:7
New King James Version
7 For➡️ there are three that bear witness in heaven: ⬅️the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
FATHER IS A PERSON
Hebrews 1:3
New King James Version
3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of➡️ His person,⬅️ and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
@@jeffreytrinidad3564
1 John 5:7 is a controversial verse because part of it is absent from the earliest Greek manuscripts. The disputed section is: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Here's why its origins are considered questionable:
1. Manuscript Evidence:
The longer form of this verse, including the reference to the Father, Word, and Holy Spirit, appears in very few Greek manuscripts, and those manuscripts date from much later (after the 14th century). The earliest and most reliable manuscripts, including those from the 2nd and 3rd centuries, do not contain this text.
2. Latin Influence:
The passage appears in some Latin manuscripts (especially the Vulgate), and scholars believe it was likely added to support Trinitarian doctrine during debates in the Western church. Early church fathers, like Tertullian and Augustine, didn’t reference this specific phrase when discussing the Trinity, which suggests it wasn’t part of the original text.
3. Textual Criticism:
Many textual scholars agree that the phrase was likely a later insertion. Erasmus, in his first edition of the Greek New Testament (1516), didn’t include it because it wasn’t found in any of the Greek manuscripts available to him. However, under pressure, he included it in his third edition after a single Greek manuscript surfaced with the text, but this manuscript is now widely considered a forgery.
For these reasons, modern Bible translations, like the NIV and ESV, often omit the Comma Johanneum or place it in a footnote, acknowledging its questionable authenticity.
Even if we accept 1 John 5:7 as authentic, it does not necessarily support the doctrine of the Trinity in the way Trinitarians claim. Here's why:
1. Use of "Word" Instead of "Son":
The verse refers to "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost," not "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." If this were meant to explicitly teach the Trinity, we might expect it to use the term "Son" rather than "Word." In Oneness theology, the "Word" (Greek *Logos*) refers to God's expression or plan, which was made flesh in Jesus (John 1:14). This could easily fit within a Oneness framework where the Word is not a separate person but the same God manifest in different roles or modes.
2. The Term "These Three Are One":
The phrase "these three are one" is used, but it doesn't explain how they are "one." Trinitarians interpret this as meaning they are one in essence or substance but distinct in persons. However, from a Oneness perspective, this can mean that these three are manifestations or aspects of the same God. Just as Jesus said in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one," Oneness theology understands this oneness as a unity of identity rather than separate persons sharing a divine nature.
3. Lack of Distinction in Persons: The verse does not state that the Father, Word, and Spirit are distinct persons. It simply affirms their unity. The Oneness position holds that God manifests Himself in different ways (as Father in creation, as the Son in redemption, and as the Holy Spirit in regeneration and indwelling believers) but remains one undivided being. There's no clear indication here of a three-person relationship.
4. Context of Testimony:
The context of 1 John 5 is about the testimony that Jesus is the Son of God, and how God gives witness to this truth. Verses 8 and 9 continue to describe how the Spirit, water, and blood testify to this truth. These elements are not separate persons but manifestations of the ways in which God reveals and confirms His truth. Likewise, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost" can be understood as different ways God bears witness to Himself, not as a proof of a triune Godhead.
In conclusion, even if 1 John 5:7 were considered authentic, it can be interpreted within a Oneness Pentecostal framework as affirming the oneness of God, not as a teaching of three distinct persons in one God.
What most trinitarians seem to forget is that God is omnipresent and is Everywhere at one time so of course He can be in the flesh in His human nature And in heaven as the father at one time showing us the relationship we are to have with the Father. He could've been around the corner talking with someone else at the same time!
This is still one of the greatest debates on Oneness vs. Trinitarian I've ever seen.
I admire how David Bernard defines his position with a lot of scripture
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
Thank God for Pastor Bernard❤️
Yes. Amen
This is epic! Thank you brother Cook for taking a hard line stance to defend Trinitarianism. I grew up and believed in Oneness for 20+ years. The Holy Spirit has changed my mind to see what the Bible actually says. Thank you for speaking the true word God!
Amen HalleluYah
Well that’s a shame, may I ask what was the point that truly turned you away from the Oneness Doctrine not trying to say you are wrong or debate you but I’m curious why some turn away and I just wanted your perspective
@@5warpotentials258 mine was because of my study of John. In the gospel according to John it’s recorded of Jesus being sent from heaven, from the Father, how He would go back to the Father, Jesus Christ Himself testifying 38 times how the Father had sent Him, but at the same time also teaching His own preexisting in glory with the Father before the world was, and how He was before Abraham. May God bless. Love you always.
I don’t believe one can have the revelation of oneness and go back on it. Please repent and return to the true faith. Or perhaps you never really had it. I don’t know. But God’s oneness is so painfully evident that to miss it is truly the work of the devil.
@@alexanderh2345
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
Amen David! May the Lord bless you !
Bernard owned this by far!!!
Matt. 28:19 Fulfills Isaiah 9:6
Act.2:38,Acts 4:12 Zech.14:9
One LORD,One Name,
Yahshua Jesus Christ,
No other name we are Saved by.
Matt. 28:19 In the Name of the Father, and of the Son and of the HolySpirit,,
Isaiah. 9:6 child born,
a Son#2 is given
His name Shall be call,
Wonderful,
Counselor, #3
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father#1.
The Child Born is called All Three Names of Matt. 28:19..
Everlasting FATHER(#1)
SON(#2) is given
Counselor#3 (HolySpirit#3)
Counselor translates into the New Covenant means Comforter which is the HolySpirit#3
(Child Born).
Galat. 4:4 Son Born of a woman Born under law.
Rom.1;3 Concerning His Son,
Made from the Seed of David according to the flesh,,
Matt. 28:19 Talks about Baptism,
Luke. 24:47(48)
Talks about Repentance and Remissions of sins in His name,
Yahshua (Jesus).
So Peter Knew what Jesus wanted them to do,,
Act.2:38 Repent and be baptized every one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the Remissions of sins and you will receive the HolySpirit,,,
Ephesians 1:17-20
You can live in True peace and love if you know who you served without a doubt, The Oneness of God is the most powerful knowledge that man can posses coz deep things about God and his will can easily be understand through the Holy Spirit, and comforts our hearts,
Now i know why the Great Apostle Paul said
"Who shall separate us from the love of God"
Through this knowledge no One can separate us from the love of God..Hallelujah Jesus😭
I’m am so proud of my oneness understanding, the oneness is so clear to me !! The triune theory is two confusing and it doesn’t make sense to me, i will pray for Mr Cook for understanding..
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
This debate was years ago and here it is 2024 and was i ever blessed..
The Lord revealed to me that he is One God with 3 roles and it is a dividing doctrine but so lovely to hear how the men conducted themselves in a very godly manner and not like today where so much muck is thrown at one another..but we are in the end times and the love of many will wax cold.
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
How many witnesses is God???
Please elaborate as did not understand the question.
Is God 1 witness or 3 witnesses?
One
THEN YOU JUST CONTRADICTED THE BIBLE
1 John 5:7
New King James Version
7➡️ For there are three that bear witness in heaven: ⬅️the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
Gene knew he lost and instead of him making his closing comments, he tried to rebottle Pastor Bernard. His PRIDE could not allow him to walk away. He sound real upset and those so call kind words really meant nothing, for he did not mean it. His PRIDE was CRUSHED.
typical behavior that trinitarians possess
God Bless brother Bernard🙏
This is the best oneness debate that I have ever seen. I use to be trinitarian when I went to a Baptist church and was baptized in titles. It never did nothing for me but led me further into the world. When I was baptized about 25 years ago in the name of Jesus christ. God revealed to me on several occasions about his oneness and many occasions. This is the best decision I ever did was giving my life over to one God Jesus. In Hebrew his name is yeshua, in English yeshua translates to Jesus. I speak English. I worship Jesus. Thank you Jesus the one true God for your blood.
Did he seriously just ask brother Bernard if God was inside Satan? Wow
Yes, which is why brother Cook has a lack of understanding of his own position, let alone a proper understanding of the Oneness position. He was reflecting on God's omnipresent nature, which he responds to this notion as though Jesus as God must also fill all space including satan.
For those who don't understand the omnipresent nature of God - there are two specific viewpoints about this position: one says that God fills every aspect of space (Ps 139:7-12) and everything is open before God (Heb 12:13). The problem here is that it doesn't prove or disprove everything for or against the Trinity or Oneness positions. Which is why I stated that brother Cook don't have a proper understanding of his own view of God, let alone the Oneness position of God.
Yeah he was reaching hard. When he asked that question, it was like a drowning man grabbing at the surface of the water he’s drowning in… smh
Great debate. No shouting, no over talking one another. But listening to one another's points.
The Oneness can only be taught by the Spirit and the trinity is taught by man. I came out of a AG church a I was taught to that the trinity was a mystery that I wouldn't understand it until I went to heaven. Praise be to God and I give him all the glory in Jesus name.
Who die on the cross?
@@asormullet7176 Jesus, the flesh die! The Lamb of God, God manifested or He wrapped himself in flesh.
@@asormullet7176 The flesh, the Temple that when God became flesh. Find this in the KJV Bible. Please do not believe anything I tell you, find the truth for yourself. Duet. 6:4, Col.2:9, 2Tim.3:16, start there.
Who sent Jesus Christ sir? He himself?
Show me the word oneness in the bible!
I have an incredible amount of respect for Gene Cook for competing as the away team. He made some great points too. As a faith-filled Pentecostal I will still admit that he made several arguments I had trouble accepting when I gave up all the Trinitarian beliefs I had in my early church life.
One thing I noticed throughout the debate is David Bernard is very calm and comfortable as he speaks of the Godhead. Gene Cook is consistently on defense and annoyed in his verbal and non-verbal behavior. It seems like David Bernard is letting scripture speak for itself, while Gene Cook is trying to argue his way to trinitarianism.
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
One God🙌🏾
I am so Blessed ❤ Thank you Father for using You Son David to open up to us the revelation of the Oneness of the True and Living GOD who will not share HIS GLORY
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
Bro Bernard what a wise and sweet spirit you have❤
A very strong spirit of deception twisting the word of God, don't think the devil comes with a pitchfork and horns but rather an angel of light, same since the beginning the serpent was crafty and subtle.
@@BFM777The Lord has always been 1 and will remain forever and ever as 1.God does not share his glory with other people for all glory and worship belongs to him, for only he is worthy. Your boy got schooled you just closed you ears and went on defensive mode. From a former trinitarian
@@thecovenant6482 I’m not a Trinitarian, first of all I don’t even know this person in the debate so he’s not my boy, oh and I used to believe in oneness, then I got delivered from that demon and allow the bible and the Holy Spirit teach me the truth, if you believe Jesus is the a father you deny the Son and therefore do not have the father ALSO.
Prayers for both of these men🙏🏽 God bless them both
Right after the second hour he absolutely owned him on the signs following us we don’t seek signs
And I love the professional event and moderation… Great leadership in that…
Mr Cook🎉 you are simply superb. Right interpretation of the scriptures and the right revelation. God bless 🙏 you and your family and the ministry. Hallelujah 🙌
He needs to learn scripture
When Pastor Cook said that a “sinful and adulterous generation looked after a sign” it was all over but the shoutin. Bishop Bernard was on that like white on rice. Masterful debater and excellent lesson in n the oneness
Thank you so much Rev Bernard for clarifying this whole truth... I just don't know where these people came up with their trinitarian view that literally doesn't make sense. Jesus made it very CLEAR he said "I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE" how can God be three? one question we should ask trinitarians is this, how many thrones are in heaven?
It only comes by the divine revelation of the spirit. As it was with Peter flesh and blood has not revealed this to you.
Well Jesus will sit on the fathers throne revelation 3:21 and Jesus himself has a throne Hebrews 1:8
I would ask any oneness who rose from the dead the father or the son
@@nickblankenship2381 the father
@@jackwari9789 If the father rose from the grave
then where is Jesus’s body? John 20:1-10 the disciples can’t find it, Galatians 1:1 the father rose Jesus and 2 Timothy 2:8 says the seed of David aka flesh rose. He had a bodily ressurection
The assurance of Pastor David Bernard speaks volumes alone.
sincerely deceived.
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
I love Jesus my God
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Was the Son already existed as a fully existing person in the Old Testament even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross; whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
5) Why does God use Plural Noun (Elohim) and Plural Pronouns (Us, Our) if He is only singular? How is God Plural, and how is He singular?
Excelente DEBATE, muy buena defensa por el ministro David Bernard, le saludo desde colombia
Pastor Cook went home, climbed into his closest and started praying in tongues…. Put his hand over his mouth…. Then cried out “uh oh”.
God bless you, pastor Cook...I pray that you come to the knowledge of the truth of the oneness and the God head of Jesus Christ...be revealed to you by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
1) Is Father a person?
2) How many witnesses is God?
3) Did the Son already exist as a person in the Old Testament, even before his birth from Mary?
4) When Son died on the cross, whose spirit did he give out? Is it the Father? Did the Father leave the Son?
Jesus es Dios!!! Aleluya baptism in the Name Jesus!!
1timothée 3/16: le mystère de la piété et grand ❤️. Merci frère Bernard. Gloire au seul ET unique Dieu véritable tout puissant de l'univers notre Roi des rois notre Seigneur des seigneurs Jésus-Christ ❤️.
It is like Gene cook is teaching about the Oneness of God ang I found it very clear that There is only one God, Jesus.
I agree only one God. Do you believe Jesus was praying to Himself ?
@@grey0966it wasn’t just that Jesus was praying to himself,
He was showing us how to pray,
Also the flesh was talking to the father but not that they were different persons.
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Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
I love, Dr. Bernards, humble and gracious approach…
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
Oneness Of God 💯
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
David Bernard is the master of the Oneness of God! There were people that came with Pastor Cook that got baptized in Jesus' Name when this debate was over
25:01 Cook talks about how we were made in Gods image. If there was three gods and we were made in their image shouldn’t there be three of us? But since there is only 1 God that’s why there isn’t three of each of us but there is 1!
This isn’t a clever question since Trinitarians believe God is One; they don’t believe in 3 Gods.
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Granted. But, quote the question in the trinity view in mind, from Nathan point - the first man was created in the image of God, shouldn't we also be one being with three distinct persons of each of us? If so, name all three distrinct persons in our one being?
My response is that we are only dichotomy beings, spirit and flesh. At death, our body returns to the ground and our spirit returns to God. Likewise, Jesus is a dichotomy being, the God-Man.
That's not what image means
One man Body soul and spirit. Father, Son (body), and Holy Spirit
About 2 hours and 10 minutes in: savage moment.
Love it.
If there be a confusing and none existing doctrine, it's trinity doctrine. Hear it for yourself how Gene if confused and in panic.
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
We have God’s spirit in us as believers. And we are many but also one.
Luke 24:45 says, Jesus opened his deciples understanding,...47: repentance and baptism is in Jesus Name! That what it means by Mat 28:19, so the Deciples did, beginning on the day of pentecost!
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
I am thankful that I lived long enough to see the truth of the one that's position. I came out of the worldwide Church of God with Herbert Armstrong and Garner Ted Armstrong on the radio. When they died off greed and such took over in the doctrine was destroyed not that they ever really understood the doctrine of Oneness. But it was a firm foundation for that time. Back in the 60s and 70s.
I remembered Herbert Armstrong, seeing him on television multiple times. But he made insanity comments about doctrines, but I did like him enough to subscribe to the Plain Truth magazine for about two years. Yet, I never agree with his positions.
1:05:12. Well done by brother Bernard!
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
One Lord.. one Faith...One baptism...I am holding fast to the baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of my sins.
I purchased this open debate years ago, but brother Cooke does an extremely poor job at representation the Trinity doctrine - he waste time by attacking the Oneness position, which he clearly doesn't understand. He panics, because he was completely unaware and under prepared at his task that he asked for to be involved.
I can appreciate that. I only want to see the best debate each other. So you're saying that Cook wasn't the best choice/prepared?
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That is correct.
He needs first clearly defined what believes, with as many verses as possible, and explain how the Trinity can be (ect) ... but allow the audience and viewers agree or disagree with his conclusions.
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
❤God bless both of you. I AM God is one 😊
1:01:32 - 1:05:19 - It was between this time, Gene was exposed and made a fool of himself. Gene Cook asked if God is present in Satan. I thought the question was absolutely stupid, silly, and devilish, and he thought, if he asked the question, he would stump the Pastor. He showed how low he was willing to go, in order to stump the Pastor, but it did not work. His questions also made me cringe, for they were immature and childish.
I was embarrassed for Cook when he said that. I didn't understand what the point was... Is he saying that he doesn't believe God is everywhere? Yikes, if that's what he was implying. I didn't know that was a Trinitarian position.
16:00 this was so powerful. Humans didnt refer to Him as Father until He became a father, with us as His children.
How many witnesses is God?
Is God a person?
@@jeffreytrinidad3564 The Father manifest in flesh as Jesus Christ. Fully God, fully man.
How come you can not answer directly? Answer to 1st question should be a number. Answer to 2nd question should be yes or no.
so sad to see such deep nonsense from a trinitarian doctor.
While I find the scriptural discourse on both sides of this very interesting and both sides raising very valid questions I cannot help but think of The apostle Paul’s words of how knowledge puffs up. It is almost with a subtle sense of arrogance and pride that both sides of this debate present their arguments as if their understanding is the inherent absolute interpretation of the Scriptures. I think the concept of understanding the nature of God and the manifestation of His personage is way beyond human comprehension even with the Scriptures and the help of the Holy Spirit even the apostle Paul himself did not claim to have complete understanding in all matters and he was taken into the heavenly’s and received revelations that were unspeakable I think both of these men would be well served to consider his words: “For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.”
1 Corinthians 13:12 ESV
Why don’t we unify and rally around what we do know to be clear the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and lay our theological doctrinal swords down and focus on saving a hurting dying world instead of trying to prove our camp of understanding right!
Only one Godhead in Christ Jesus Amen
Show me just 1 verse saying "Father is the only God"
Pastor Bernard very clear his explanation regarding one God preach the true God no other Jesus Christ
1:16:42 Who, being in the form of God, THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY to be equal with God. Philippians 2:6 modern translations stated this verse opposite of what the Authorized say to fit their false kenosis doctrine. Jesus didn't empty himself. His glory was veiled. John 1:14 John said we beheld His glory. When did john see His glory? At the transfiguration when He revealed it to Peter, James & John so again the kenosis or self emptying is false.
The accusers were saying He was trying to make Himself Equal with GOD.
I don't think you want to take the position of being on the inside of the accusers...
I was Saved, Baptized in the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues before I was water baptized. My problem is that " Without the Shedding of Blood there is no Remission of Sin" I can't see where water can wash away sin. John's Baptism of Repentance would have been enough but water could not take away sin. The Blood Sacrifices from Abel to the Cross all pictured what Jesus would do with His blood on the Cross.
Mark 1:4, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16
KJV
@@jacobdaniellawson0417 So when were Peter the disciple's all the other Apostles Baptized in the Name of Jesus because everybody got Spirit Filled without their water baptism . We water baptize because Jesus tells us to .Salvation comes by Faith and Faith alone . You can't be Spirit Filled without being Born Again First . Justification comes by Faith in Jesus in the Son of God and the Atonement . He paid the price for our sin in full .
@@edge2sword186 Im not trying to prove anything I was just showing you some verses that they use when talking about baptism for remission of sins. I haven’t fully understood it myself all I can say is I was baptized in the name of Jesus and I did feel something very powerful and spiritual happen when I came out of the water. People present testified that my face was literally glowing like when Moses saw the glory of God. But I wasn’t being baptized in hopes of washing away my past sin I was being obedient to Gods word
@@jacobdaniellawson0417 Often times we have seen people with the glow of God on them with water baptism and many also spoke in tongues when they came up out of the water . This was in the Name of the Father ,Son and Holy Spirit formula not in the name of Jesus only . I see it as being in obedience to what Jesus said about baptism . There is first the Baptism of John which Jesus was baptized then baptism in the body of Christ next is water baptism and then baptism in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues . John's baptism is the baptism of repentance except in Jesus case it was a confirmation of who he was and the beginning of his public ministry .