Trapping Pep and Klopp in Non-League

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  • Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video I team up with ‪@DoctorBenjyFM‬ to trap Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp in Non-League Football at Wrexham and Notts County. Which one of these world class managers will do best and go from non league to legend?
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  • @mansoormurad5400
    @mansoormurad5400 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Given City and Liverpool won 27/40 trophies while being managerless, that speaks volumes for how the match engine views the manager's position...

  • @kibakurosaki
    @kibakurosaki ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Now you reverse it, put them both in the other team and repeat the experiment

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Hahaha, I need you on my ideas team!

    • @itsTiagoSilva
      @itsTiagoSilva ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hire him, Tom

    • @neilm838
      @neilm838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then it would be an experiment.

    • @kibakurosaki
      @kibakurosaki ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomFM that'd be an honour

    • @udincaux6248
      @udincaux6248 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that would be fun 👍

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Meanwhile, in the fifth season in my save, Wrexham is completely stuck in the Conference National (even missing out on the Playoffs twice, one of them in the first season) while Notts County is currently second, 11 points behind my team in League Two.
    16:40 Look at South Shields reaching League One when it isn't even in a playable league at first.

  • @WERTYUIO821
    @WERTYUIO821 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great experiment once again!
    Perhaps try it again by trapping an elite manager in every non League team and sim 50 years into the future? I haven't tried it yet in FM23(just brought it) but in past FMs people didn't die(at least footballers didn't.). So perhaps we could see if having elite managers would help the Vanarama National League level teams reach the Championship and League 1 or perhaps one reach the Premier League.
    Perhaps to add to that, get a 1 to everything manager to every Premier League team.
    If you try it. Make sure to check the stadiums if they have

  • @mattshark7665
    @mattshark7665 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I think Pep himself has said he wouldn’t do well at low level teams. I think Klopp is far better suited to managing a poorer team.

  • @MajinPorunga
    @MajinPorunga ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Inaccurate experiment. Huge variables in the teams you picked. You should simulate them at the same club and see who does better and maybe go through the leagues to see how they do with a decade in each at the same teams.

  • @jamesh1811
    @jamesh1811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Be great to see more videos with you and Ben!

  • @Journey22405
    @Journey22405 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a former Green Bank player, im kinda shocked they got mentioned, i say player i was player for under 9s and i was moved from striker to midfielder cause i was too lazy lmao

  • @callumjb7668
    @callumjb7668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these cool videos!

  • @neckz
    @neckz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Tom, how did you trapped them into this club? i tryd out myself but the "future transfer" trick (like you do for players to trap them) didnt work here? Could you give me an info?

  • @BriswallYT
    @BriswallYT ปีที่แล้ว +5

    16:51 - Who else noticed South Shields at the bottom of League One?

  • @shaneg9081
    @shaneg9081 ปีที่แล้ว

    New to your channel. Kinda wonder what it would be like if these managers were really trapped at that level, with them leaving a team when it gets promoted. Are they so talented as managers they become absolute king makers for every team they touch at that level?

  • @jamesjonson2617
    @jamesjonson2617 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't played this game since FM 2010 can you do this in normal career mode or do you need the in game editor to do experiments?

  • @gringote
    @gringote ปีที่แล้ว

    hi @TomFM. i hope you doing well.. i have a issue, i didnt notice that in installed on pc the console version of fm23, and i want to transfer my save in the normal game to continue. but i can't find anywhere some advising how to make it posible. on web they say it is posible, but no one said how. many thanks, respect and keep it up.

  • @GeoFMFC
    @GeoFMFC ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video just think putting one on wrexham was unfair. They do great on fm without any big manager.

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, my first matter in Newcastle was using this screen to replace the assistant manager back to Eddie Howe, despite our stylistic clash.

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bolton, Preston, Wigan, and Wrexham all in a playoffs together; kinda my nightmare

  • @johnshores4745
    @johnshores4745 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    could you do a reverse to see if it was because wrexham are a bigger club

    • @notemucp
      @notemucp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrexham are small

    • @johnshores4745
      @johnshores4745 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@notemucp yes but bigger than county

    • @louiskent1724
      @louiskent1724 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@johnshores4745 notts county are bigger than wrexham in every metric

    • @notemucp
      @notemucp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnshores4745 ummm… nope?

  • @lilwild2412
    @lilwild2412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm new in this channel but u can put 2 non league managers in city and liverpool too!

  • @dbc1702
    @dbc1702 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some comments have alluded to this, But what would have been better is Trapping Klopp at say Wrexham and simulate for 10 years, then go back and trap Pep at Wrexham as well and simulate him also for 10 years and then check the data and compare both under the same control settings. or as the comment below states from Kiba K, switch them around and run it again for comparison.

  • @TheJoshayy
    @TheJoshayy ปีที่แล้ว

    Simulate a season then add some world class managers to the teams promoted from the non-playable leagues

  • @maxiking8816
    @maxiking8816 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that video format

  • @evilwolfuk
    @evilwolfuk ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new to this but please tell me how to lock the managers into the clubs.

  • @angelarango1329
    @angelarango1329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aunque no entienda por ser latinoamericano me gusta mucho tus dinámicas aunque no entiendo XD sigue así vas a llegar muy lejos Bro😃 Like y ya me suscribí

  • @minstreet_studio6265
    @minstreet_studio6265 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you try to make them work together??? like 1 as a manager and 1 as an assistant

  • @ltpRB
    @ltpRB ปีที่แล้ว

    16:53 wow south shields in league one

  • @Har_old
    @Har_old ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see Kofi Balmer, went to the same school as me

  • @yorkiebarowen
    @yorkiebarowen ปีที่แล้ว

    3:24 well this has aged well hasn't it

  • @davidfox4922
    @davidfox4922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There wasn't enough chat about Sam Clucas

  • @stonecold6521
    @stonecold6521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never knew you're from Lincoln. I've lived here for years now. Born in Scunny.

  • @cainedbutable
    @cainedbutable ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got Terrence Vancooten as a right back on my Stevenage file 😂

  • @sebiieex
    @sebiieex ปีที่แล้ว

    that dead pool money coming in clutch

  • @RetroProg
    @RetroProg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wrexham record number of wins...prophetic

  • @cheesestring2032
    @cheesestring2032 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try swapping national league manager to pl teams and 4 top chship managers and 20 pl managers to the 24 national league teams

  • @JaquiskiTarttNFL
    @JaquiskiTarttNFL ปีที่แล้ว

    Lollujo needs to fix Sheff Wed lol!

  • @safcjcp
    @safcjcp ปีที่แล้ว

    Favourite thing was Sunderland promotion

  • @kjubi2259
    @kjubi2259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you know what TomFm i never coment video but you know what i want see suprs in vanarama national league north or sout whit all players and everithing but i want see how this shi.... club do in non league :D and of course as i m liverpool fan trap liverpool too whit only youth team fir liverpool
    and i think liverpool still be promoted

  • @BantamsOnline
    @BantamsOnline ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Bradford City get new owners a few seasons in to this?

  • @helmutliess698
    @helmutliess698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Late comment. Maybe do both scenarios. Klopp with wrexham and then guardiola with wrexham

  • @RedK11
    @RedK11 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Stoke fan, the Sam Clucas focus is pretty aggravating

  • @admthrawnuru
    @admthrawnuru ปีที่แล้ว

    Now lock a terrible manager into a team that's super dominant like PSG (and load some lower leagues) and see how far it drops.

  • @connorjones9314
    @connorjones9314 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryan Reynolds dream signing of pep

  • @TheRealKingLeopoldII
    @TheRealKingLeopoldII ปีที่แล้ว

    So both Notts County and Liverpool were eventually better off without Klopp lol

  • @tightfistedgoat5217
    @tightfistedgoat5217 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should swap all the prem managers with national league teams.see what happens 👀

  • @reecewilkins637
    @reecewilkins637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big up Bromley keeping up with both teams

  • @macsidia
    @macsidia ปีที่แล้ว

    And Goldbridge at Solihull Moors would stop them both!

  • @mrchrischamp1
    @mrchrischamp1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This hurts as a Wednesday fan

  • @cruiseylee
    @cruiseylee ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not make it fair and change the teams over that they start at?

  • @MatiasND
    @MatiasND ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we just mention Sheffield Wednesday downfall?

  • @leightonsharpe2660
    @leightonsharpe2660 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same clubs, same managers, switch and make a new video. Pleaseeeeeee

  • @T.E.S.S.
    @T.E.S.S. ปีที่แล้ว

    👀

  • @Chefarchiepope
    @Chefarchiepope 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pop and klepp

  • @richardgoldins4790
    @richardgoldins4790 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this a pc mod

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah it's weird between us Liverpool and City fans, there is real and genuine respect and admiration for each other's managers. Pep is the best manager of the past decade and I think you can argue that Klopp is 2nd, though Simeone, Conte, Mourinho & Zidane can all have an argument put forth for them being 2nd.
    People do over praise Klopp though. He DOES get the most out of his players, but the talent HAS to be there in the first place. People talk about our Front 3 but for Liverpool to win Trophies the defensive spine of our time the 'Defensive 3' of Allisson, Van Dijk & Fabinho is arguably the best in the world and without it we go from a Top 4 team in the world to a top 4 team in England. It's a MASSIVE drop off without them and our INSANE high line is only possible because of how good they are.

  • @gwood3070
    @gwood3070 ปีที่แล้ว

    ᎮᏒᎧᎷᎧᏕᎷ

  • @angelfire9622
    @angelfire9622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not an original concept ? omega luke's concept

    • @andreaspedersen2978
      @andreaspedersen2978 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Who cares

    • @MonTheWell1886
      @MonTheWell1886 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This didn't just start being a thing 6 days ago lad

    • @coyootje
      @coyootje ปีที่แล้ว

      I just see it as an increase of the sample size of this experiment :) Every save is different so it's interesting to see how they vary.

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah tbf, I did it last year too so not that original

    • @Norhod
      @Norhod ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom FM did it already, the other guy is the one who stole the idea. Not that it matters that much though.

  • @mirandevrim387
    @mirandevrim387 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most seuccesfull trainer in the Game Fc Porto trainer Sergei Conceiçao.İf one of the top premier league team sign him,that team dominate the league for years . Unai Emery is Alsa equally good.Both are classic 4+4+2 and both direct football.

  • @joshhoughton976
    @joshhoughton976 ปีที่แล้ว

    portsmouth getting relegated in the 6th season is depressing 🥲probably will happen before we go up