HOW TO LAY CHIPBOARD FLOORING | Build with A&E
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- In this video Tony gives you a run down on How to Lay Chipboard Flooring and then Joe sets to work on demonstrating how it is done. The materials used are P5 tongue and groove chipboard flooring, D4 premium wood adhesive and Spax screws.
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Great to see proper, caring builders who know what they are doing and cutting corners is not an option. Bravo gents.
The chipboard under that behemoth stack of plasterboard is under such pressure it’s turned into bloody diamond!! 💎
Great work as ever. Your attention to detail is second to none. Hope your customers appreciate what a professional job they are getting. Thanks for sharing. All the best Pete 👍👍
Hi Pete thanks for your kind words, they are awesome clients couldn’t ask for better have a awesome week all the best Tony 👍
Always blown away by what good teachers you guys are. So much good information shared in every video 👏🏻👏🏻
Many thanks 😎👍
Thanks for the help on the floor guys. Those screws work like a charm. All the best.
Thanks for this video guys! I’m about to lay a load of this so this instruction has come in handy.
My house had these floors in. Squeaked like hell. I pulled it up, glued down with caberfix D4 and them exact spax screws.
I can't even describe the difference. Unreal
Nice one Tony, great video! We do it the same way. I am also a fan of ironmongery direct! 👍
Thanks James! Take care 👍
@James King can you please start making your own videos. Your always brilliant on skill builder.
Wow what a professional job well done lads, my house floors were laid by one of the nations biggest house builders Persimone.
lots of squeaks, say no more enjoy the videos keep up the good work
Glad you enjoyed it Ronald, hope you have a great weekend! 👍
God help the person who has to uplift or has to put other services at a later date!
Just what I was thinking!
However they are working to the NHBC standard.
If you need to lay new pipes or wiring a strip of floor will gave to be cut out. To be honest, just as it does with the old T&G floorboards. At least is now easy to drill the joists and cable the new pipes through.
Its impressive to see such precise way of working but its a given a future owner is going to want to make alterations, I just dont like how this way of building is a one time thing.
I think everyone Appreciates the skill and precision that goes into fitting this very well, however I do agree that chipboard/osb board flooring is the worst shortcut ever for flooring.
I’ve tried to lift osb boards up for underfloor alterations and it’s a nightmare. This stuff is weak and like cardboard. I’ve never had an issue lifting floorboards either t/g or flat.
Top video lads, really helpful and informative!
Great video love watching your videos you give really good tips nice job guys take care
Many thanks for the kind words Kenny! 😎👍
Did my bathroom floor like that. An old imperial 2 x 3 joists and with a tiled floor going over the top I didn't want any movement (or squeaks!). A bit OTT, but even without boards the floor wasn't going anywhere. Worth the extra time and effort to make the job as good as it can be.
Nice detailed video as ever chaps 🧱👍🏼
Thanks guys hope you are all well all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
@@BuildWithAE 🧱👍🏽
Another well presented video with lots of fantastic tips well done. Thank you.
Hi Afzul thanks for your kind words have a awesome week all the best Tony 👍
Good on you for giving honest impartial advice on the consumables especially given your sponsor. Loving the content - keep up the good work.
Hi Neil it is so important to us all to have a honest and impartial view on everything that we do, thanks for your kind words all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
Another brilliant job guys, good thing the weather can’t stop you👍🏽🙌🏽
Thanks Kieren! Take care 👍
Learnt my lesson buying screws stopped buying the cheap toolstation screws in red and blue box few years ago and defo worth paying extra
As the saying goes "buy cheap, buy twice." Budget fixings aren't always bad, but we like to spend a little extra for a higher quality.
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
Great video. Nicely explained too
Hi guy's, that'll be a hell of a good floor when it's finished, full mark's for a proper job, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.
Thanks Stuart 👍
What if you ever need to lift the floor to do some remedial work?
Nice few tips picked up from this tutorial, many thanks.
Hi Marco we are glad it was helpful all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
A&E: Use plenty of noggins to stop the squeeking!
Chipboard T&G’s: *Am I a joke to you?*
Love the belt and braces approach above and beyond what's needed.
Many thanks for watching PDS! Take care 👍
@@BuildWithAE what about for the noggins?
Brilliant video. So helpful. Total beginner here about to attempt DIY floor. Can i ask why you need spacers at the edges? TIA
Glad you enjoyed the video. The spacers are to allow for any movement which may take place. If everything was tight, it may cause issues with buckling. It also helps with the installation, as you need a bit of space to fit the tongue into the groove.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 👷🏻♂️
Great educational vid guys keep it up
Thanks Ben, have an awesome weekend 👍
Good job guys glue and screw good strong job 🏴
Thanks for the support as always Yorwerth! Take care 👍
This is a great video and really helped me for laying my sister joint levelled floor in my 1850s house,l. just wish my main old joists didn’t run out/be at different distances/subsiding with the house, literally have to measure each individual one :(
Great video lads . But 2 by 4s ! Don’t be going all American on us 😂
Hi Stephen 😂 I must confess when talking about timber I find it easier to talk inches same when working on roofs convert to both inches and metric, we were only talking about this yesterday how we say timber and they say lumber both cool words have a great week all the best Tony 👍
I’ve always said 4 by 2 not the other way around
@@bensmith3613 yea that’s what I was getting at . It’s always the big number first in the UK , as far as I’m aware .
@@bensmith3613 same here.
Excellent video, one of the best ones out there!!👍🏻Provides a good starting point for my bedroom sqeaky floor replacement and soundproofing. I am cutting the existing 22mm chipboard along the edges of the wall, take up the old chipboard and install the new one. Additional noggings to be added, along with glue and screw. In your opinion, do I need to add 3mm expension gap where the old & new chipboard connects?
Many thanks in advance!
THANK YOU GREAT VIDEO.
Glad you liked it! Have a great week! 👍
Great video, it would also help if you have given a link to buy the screws and glue.
Good builders 👍👍👍
Never mentioned staggering the boards (joints ) which is important too.
Do you have a video on replacing chipboard flooring? Mine built in the 80s is squeaky and creaking, I’m torn between ripping it up or screwing near the nails
And then the plumber & electrician come in & rip it all up!
😂😂😂😂
Poor planning then, they should have been in before the flooring was put down!
Lovely job lads, do you have to lap the boards by exactly half?
I'm going to be laying my own soon just trying to get a bit of knowledge in the brain haha.
Been a bricklayer for years but when it comes to woodwork it's all new stuff to me. xD
Christ, you're practically building a subfloor under there! Good solid job nevertheless! 👌🏻😎
Thanks for watching Llyr! 😎
How to repair creaky chipboard ? Can u do vid on this?
Brilliant video,i am busy putting 22mm flooring down now but when finished it will be roughlyc20mm lowercthan ajoiningvfloor so needcto build up ,could you advise on best way to do it,ie plywood sheet and how to fix down,screw,nail.?
Many thanks would appreciate any guidance.4
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Have no answers
Pair of kno#s
I love when that glue drys on my fingers. It's something to peel off when you've a break. 😂 It's only a form of PVA anyway. Have you ever used acoustic joist tape without the need for gluing to the joists? It's cheap as chips and absorbs some of the impact sound too.
Hi Stephen that’s a great shout will look on line, I know what you mean about the glue 😂 all the best Tony 👍
The acoustic resilient tape is great. Used it on my joists and have no squeaking anywhere 👍
Brilliant advice , clearly spoken and superbly well executed. I'll never get it as millimetre perfect and will take 6 times longer but thanks to you fellows, there won't be any howlers!
Great work. I wish Barratts would do the same. They just put a bit of glue down with a few paslode nails. Then wonder why the all the floors squeak.
Hi Tom I haven’t done site work for along time now and it would be sad to know that Barrett’s did that hopefully not but that might be down to the specification or site agent or even the contractors doing the job it’s a hard call, personally I feel it’s up to the contractor to say no this is below sub standard what would be expected get some one else to do it if that’s the case we should make everyone accountable so it promotes good workmanship thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
Definitely a podcast debate coming up
Great jobs guys but I reckon it would be more cost effective to just install pine t and g floorboards
Not when you account for two screws at every joist on every board.
Hi mate, great video. Love the attention to detail, going to be building a double extension on mine this summer hopefully when the plans come through. What size joists do you use and what centre's would you usually use? The extension is going to be 6.8x2.6.
I'm an electrician by trade but just trying to get as many ideas as I can. I was thinking of using 200mm x 47mm C24 timbers.
Thanks for making videos, they're very helpful. Cheers.
Hi AJS much appreciated I would use a 195mm x 70mm C24 personally but you can check on the Trada Timber joist and rafter table online all the best Tony 👍
Have you done a video on the joists and wall plate? Why is their 10mm behind the wall plate?
To allow cables for sockets to be dropped down, saves chasing wall, proper way to do the job, the way I was taught,but I rarely seen it done.
@@stuartandrews4344 how is it spaced off the wall? With some sort of packer?
Great video, will be using your tips on my next project. Any advice to correct an uneven floor (joists) prior to laying the board? Thanks
Hi Steven string line across the joists glue and screw to the side of the existing joist 6 x 2 all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week oh make sure existing joist are good and solid
@@BuildWithAE Yes makes sense to bring any low ones up. Thanks for the advice.
What were the screws used please? Any advice on a ratio of board depth to screw length?
Hi Jacob Spax Chip board screws 4.5 x 60mm all the best Tony 👍
Can you please link the screws? Thanks so much ❤️
Spax chipboard flooring screws google them
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if you'd put in a couple more noggins you wouldn't need the chipboard flooring. Only kidding another great video lads.
Hi Andy 😂😂 that’s made me smile all the best Tony 👍
Well done for taking the time to do it right. it's sad to say but an awful lot of bosses would crack up if there carpenters went to those lengths for a chipboard floor .
Very true...
Thanks for watching Stevie 👍
Another great video guys. I wish the idiots that floored my house had watched this first. More squeaks than a box of mice!
Hi David much appreciated Roger from Skillbuilder does a cool video on Squeaky floors, have a awesome week all the best Tony 👍
@@BuildWithAE Thanks Tony, I'll check it out!
I swear sun went down and came back up during that time laps
Start of the process was towards the end of a particular day and then the guys finished it off first thing in the morning.
Awesome video, as always. Quick question. Can you get plywood in the UK? Surprised you would use chipboard instead of plywood or OSB.
Hi R Myers plywood floor I have only seen in an engineered finish board designed for underfloor or if clients don’t want carpet, in this application it was specified thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍
I have never seen anyone noggin a tongue and groove joint on the long edge before. It certainly won't be going anywhere I guess
Hi Shane some people might see it is a little over the top but that’s just us thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
@@BuildWithAE fair play mate
Was taught that way many years ago.
Very useful / helpful, if your building a new house / extension etc. BUT, my house is 40 yrs old, and the floors were, and still are, appallingly noisey. No amount of screws, serrated nails, and glue, has shut the bugger's up. I wear ear plugs permanently---eh ?
Hi Phillip sorry to hear about the Ear plugs, I think Skillbuilder does a video on squeaky floorboard repair check it out all the best Tony 👍
Why no herringbone strutting..
Hi Stevie it’s been years since I’ve done herring bone but there is something special about them all the best Tony 👍
Vacuum the joints as well as brush them?? that's extreme, and in all all fairness I can't see anybody going to those lengths, no matter how good you are
Why dont you use pu?
I guess you guys work on a day rate! 😂
Absolute over kill
Don't understand the negative comments. If you do everything to specification at the outset, why would you need to do ant remedial work anytime soon? I'd rather everything was solid. If you have new wiring and plumbing its unlikely you will need to rip it out for 30 years at least.
Hi Shaggy 8392 much appreciated your spot on all the best Tony 👍
Who owns build with a and e
Tony ( Anthony) I think
You guys put your belt and braces on and then put another belt and set of braces on ontop
Two b four??? No it’s four b two
Bad storage of materials gents on that suspended floor
Hi Ian it was no issues at all, If you look at the trada timber 8 x 3 joist xC24 are a massive over kill on strength but I don’t like bounce on floors, you could drop an elephant from the sky and they wouldn’t move plus the steels they are loading on to can take a 4 storey building all the best Tony 👍
@@BuildWithAE no worries 👍just saw the boarding over a metre thick stored just out of shot and that in conjunction with a couple of guys moving around pushes the envelope a little in terms of short term live load
👍enjoyed the vid anyway
don't think this floor will
hope you never need to get them up again!!
Seems excessive.
Not at all,nothing worse than a squeaky chipboard floor.
Can’t be on site work with all that nonsense
Hi Chelsea it depends on your price I suppose and weather you would want squeaky floor boards in your house or on the big sites, the NHBC and LABC show this detail as well all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
How come the second fella with the hat on didn't say ' guys' when he said his 1st sentence? Guess he's a new starter and hasn't been trained properly yet?
I can't fully see what glue you are using but it looks like a D4 white pva glue. For something under dynamic loads like a floor it's better to use a glue that stays flexible like a pu construction adhesive for the floorboards. Pva glue tends to be brittle when dry. So with movement from the wood floor or over time slight settling of the building, it can break loose and still go noisy, while a flexible glue will move with -and dampen the floor. Not a big issue to use pva, but just a tip.
Thanks for the great video. I would have been really interested to see how you measure, scribe, cut and fit the final row of boards - where you had to cut the boards down lengthwise to fill the remaining gap. Looks like you had to cut them to fit a wonky wall, around some pipes and a brick pier, would love to see another video on how you do that trickier part of the job in future. Thanks!
You could mark joist centre or board edges on the opposite wall where the joist ends go into the wall, Just come up vertically. Then snap a chalk line or pencil your line in once the last board is in. Any marks will be covered by plasterers or boards, even on ready plastered walls any marks covered by skirting.
I don't really liike that d4 glue for joisting or 1st fix, doesn't expand. Just seems like normal wood glue to me.
Sometimes it's better not having a glue going wild with expansion.
You only notice dirty windows not clean ones, and in the same way, people only notice squeaky floor boards not quiet ones. The main difference being that squeaky floor boards can drive you mad and can be difficult to remedy. Another job properly executed by Team A&E that will leave their customer without the future inconvenience of a noisy floor. Well done boys. Cheers.
Hi Tall Carpenter hope you are well and busy, so true about what people notice, that would be up there first three have a awesome week all the best Tony 👍
Make a jig from a 600mm strip of thin straight timber, mark on the centres for your screws, (you were using 200 spacing) then just line up with your mark on the wall (starter mark for previous laid board) and joist. Saves having to mark the board with a pencil line and measure for each screw. Hope that helps. Great videos, keep up the good work.
I would rather use special glue used for chipboard flooring, that foams up and expands a little, not just a regular wood adhesive. Also your blokes spend like 30min on 1 floor board. I understand that you want to look professional and do a good job, but either u are not making any money or your customers are paying a lot for unnecessary work :)
Hi C014ain that glue was originally designed for exterior flooring for big house developments to get the floor down so they good work off it because of the weather, either glue does the job well all the best Tony 👍
Guys I am doing a bathroom floor 2:20 which screws are you using is it 4.5x60 stainless for wet areas or are the standard decking screws ok any help appreciated thanks
As always a spot on. Well timed ahead of our extension. Do use the same 60mm screws for all the noggin work when going in at angle are longer ones needed?
After having to install laminate flooring on a wooden suspended floor I concluded - Fuck wooden floors. Concrete all the way
Fantastic work guys and very clearly demonstrated 👍🏼
Very very good video. Thank you very much.
that glue is also a nightmare when it spills out and stains brickwork
Top quality advice from top quality craftsmen. Thank you
foaming glue usually only needs nailing on first set of boards
The plumbers are going to love working on that floor in years to come with all that glue, but so what there’s nothing worse than a squeaky floor
Hi Fire Blaster so true about squeaky floors drives me nuts all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome week
Better than a squeaky floor that someone screws down and finds a water pipe or lower cable.
Pu glue and nail gun 65mm ringshanks job done.
Can i ask again,if you have a suggestion
The need to learn from Larry Haun, stop fanning around. Predrilling? Lol
Hi Billy Larry Haun is a Legend all the best Tony 👍
Nice vid but quick question - Seems excessive with the noggins where the board would fit into the groove of the adjacent board. Would you do this with T&G floorboards?
Hi Haroon we do support all connections, as I say in the video it’s just what we do and it doesn’t take that much time to do and we feel it’s a better job, with thin pine floor boards then no hope this helps have a awesome week all the best Tony 👍
This is the worst example of making it up as you go along I’ve seen.
Done by blokes who think they know what they’re doing and in doing so get it all wrong.
What are they doing wrong? Trying to research the best way to do things so interested in all opinions!
Day rate
Holy cow!! I wonder how much that stack of plasterboard weighs?
Hi Phil a lot I was so tired after moving onto the site 😂 good job we had 7 x 3 xC24 joist as well
Thanks for watching all the the best Tony 👍
Great video build with A & E are true professionals they go above and beyond.
You can tell that Tony is a true professional of his trade keep up the good work stay safe 🛠⚒👍👍👍
Many thanks Isabel! Take care 👍
Hi, I absolutely love this video as it's very informative and I would really like to implement this in my 3 bed semi-detached. Can I ask, If I've got plastering and skimming to do (middle of a reno) would it be better to get this done, then plaster and skim then have my flooring fitted? or swap the first two items around?
Thanks in Advance
Hi either way really just don’t get the boards wet And open windows ajar if there is a nice breeze once scimmed all the best Tony 👍
@@BuildWithAE I've seen different thicknesses of these boards. I'm trying your approach for a few rooms in my home. would 22mm be fine for bedrooms or shall I go thicker? and is 18mm sufficient for a loft? Lastly what screws did you use for your noggins? cheers
The Caber manual doesnt specify the long edge to be nogged (splint) , I like the long edge splints. Not to be confused with joist rigidity noggins by the way. After I glued I found the glue easy to remove from the joist with a sharp edge, with no damage to the joist. My answer would be cut with circular saw set to 21.5mm, do cut then run sharp chisel down what left or careful routing. Be advised nogging the long edges on the house Im doing at the moment adds £500 to the floor timber cost using 4 by 2. P5 T& G is about £20 a sheet today.
Lovely work, a pleasure to see quailty work! Can never have too many noggins.
Many thanks! 👍
I couldnt tell from the video - do you need to stagger these?
Is that yes?
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