I don't get why people get so mad when a band tries something new, I respect it. I'm not surprised they signed with VEVO as they aren't very well known and they might need it. Anti-Flag's message hasn't changed, they're are just trying a new way to make good music. Correct me if I'm mistaken but Anti-Flag have stated that Anti-Flag does not mean Anti America, it means Anti War.
Exactly, and like its so hard to google shit. In the words of wiki " The band is well known for political activism, focusing on anti-war activism, anti-imperialism, class struggle, human rights, and various sociopolitical sentiments."
They see signing with VEVO as selling out- an anti-establishment band agreeing to do business with a giant asshole corporation is gonna rub people the wrong way.
I get that, but I think some people forget that these guys have adopted music as their life, and if they aren't making the money they need to, they are going to have to do something different.
1. Vevo is not a record label. It is a music channel that is supplied by (mostly) major labels. 2. They only released two albums on a major label before moving back to "indie" labels. Other than that, I agree entirely with your argument. So long as that message is continuously present and pure, I don't see a band going to a major label as an entirely bad thing. However, smaller independent labels are less likely to fuck you over on your record deals, except for Victory Records.
i love anti flag i love blink 182 i love sum41 i love green day i love rancid i love Punk rock music ska punk pop punk hardcore punk etc. = PUNK ROCK :)
This comments section is cancer. The "They still sing about the same messages they used to but they can't possibly mean it now because they have money." rhetoric is bullshit. You realize you are able to do a lot more to help the causes you fight for with money, right? People don't question the validity of other musicians activism if they don't play Punk music. I don't see a lot of people saying how fake Serj Tankian or Tom Morello are just because they are associated with big labels. Also, this "Punk is dead" rhetoric is also bad. Maybe you don't consider major label bands to truly be Punk, you can have that opinion. But if you would just look for some Punk music you would find it, it wouldn't be on a major label and it wouldn't ve twenty to thirty years old. I have plenty of independent Punk/Crust/Hardcore etc bands in my music collection that are active and established within the past ten years, you're just not looking hard enough. Oh and the thing about independents is that they don't really get promotion because they don't usually have real budgets to do anything. Don't complain about it being hard to find a band with a small fanbase and no ads, if they had ads you'd call them sell-out.
Bartholomule01 that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. People think money makes everything better as if there aren't things to be angry about anymore once you have a little money or be inspired by. Comment sections and ignorance are cancers hahaha
What selling out isn't: Getting a haircut, wearing different clothes, using different equipment, working with different people, writing new music, selling music in one place as opposed to another, playing certain venues, etc... What selling out is, IF it's anything: Comprising your core beliefs for material gain.
I dont think I can separate the art from the artist on this one. This one hurts and I still wear Brand New merch; at least that guy never acted like a good person.
I love Anti-Flag because they have the balls to speak out about their opinions unlike nearly all music. I also love Green Day because their albums are fantastic (American Idiot especially) because they can write so well and get such an important message across. Punk rock will never die!
And as far as original posts go, my original post was to simply point out that everyone needs corporate systems, everyone needs money, everyone needs commercialism, everyone needs a reason. And honesty to get some 17yr old know it all riled up. As of the present time, I've done exactly that. One day you'll get it when you're all grown up and out of mommy and daddy's house. You'll look back and say " man that annoying guy was right". Great songs, great performance and great gimmicks.
anyone who says they sold out listen to the lyrics of this song, its painting a pretty damn accurate picture of our society and how we try and portray it to the rest of the world
first of all, i think punk is just as much in the type of message being sent as the way it is being sent, its not just a style of music but it also has to do with the messages that are being brought forward, damn good band. also they didnt "sell out" or anything like that, their job is to change the way we think and try to get us to act together and change the world (something that people should start doing) who cares if they get paid because they sound so good doing it?
Todella nautittavaa Punkrockia! Awesome. Tästä ei punkbiisi juurikaan parane. Aivan mahtavaa. This is just about what punk means! Älkää työ välittäkö mun huonosta enklannin kielestä. Kappale puhuttelee upeasti. Brilliant.
You should, Justin is adooooorable. I was crushin on him at your age too. I met him when I was 12, it was super awesome. Try to go to one of their shows, they usually love to meet fans. :)
TVdude321io is right. why do these people always argue? thats the one reason i dont like anti flag videos, these people in the comments have no life and all i see is a paragraph of hateful things about being a "punk". we all are anti flag fans, we should all be friends!
I found a very old CD of mine called Die for the Government. I listened to it a lot many, many years ago so I looked these guys up. They've come a long way haha. Not really my kind of punk, but still, good to hear someone original out there.
@RedBassplaya thats true endgame was reconfirming that, I'm still waiting for my copy of The general strike to arrive, depending on what thats like my opinion may change
@tbuggs1 Hell, I'm 16, and I'm growing up on NOFX, Bad Religion, Anti-Flag, Rancid, Operation Ivy, etc. The only difference is you got to EXPERIENCE them. xD
I used to think that the idea of a record contract equaling a sell out in the punk world was not necessarily true... But then I think... Green Day on Broadway. I hope if I ever see Anti Flag live again they stick to more old material and don't play the clash either.
I saw Anti-Flag for the second time a month ago, and they played a lot of good shit. A decent amount of songs pre-2007 and no Clash covers (Personally, I would love it if they'd play a Clash song since I love both bands). Nonetheless, they DID NOT disappoint. They ended the show just like when I saw them on the Warped Tour...with practically the entire band performing the crowd. I must also mention that my second time seeing them was the closest I've come to permanent hearing damage, it was fantastic!
@SYSCHICN I agree. I think if anything they have evolved with their music. They are talking on issues that a lot of people don't think about. They are trying to educate people on politics, the miitary, the media, etc. I fucking love the newer Anti-Flag.
yes! definitly, just becaus it isn't made at the same time or same way doesn't mean it doesn't have the same soul, these guys, the street dogs, gaslight, hot water music. They are all punk just diffeent forms, i feel unk is more of a mindset in the bands and the fans which is shown through the lyrics, just because a guitar doesn't sound the same as another punk band doesn't categorize it as a different genre.
And they put out a great record in 2009 on SideOneDummy, and their latest album The General Strike, is quite possibly one of their best. And Funk, if you want to name drop bands, at least name bands that aren't well known in the underground if you want to look cool, which you failed.
Fuck all those who claim hard-line and shout sell-outs anytime a band becomes slightly famous! Music should be spread across the world for all to hear!
I find it ironic that the ad VEVO gave me was one of Nicki Minaj, followed by "Real Music." Thank God I knew what was coming after those 15 seconds of torture, or I would have left.
best punk hairdew in my mind Doyle from the Misfits in the 90's a fauhawk mixed with a devillock=epic(note random thought running through my mind that i wanted to share with u)
"This is not punk""This is a sellout" Punk is not about the sound that the band makes, it's not about the looks and it's not about being badass... It's about what you think... So even a Lawyer who sings Pop songs could be Punk if he thinks like a punk... And really... The word "Punk" is becoming more of a mainstream something, like a title.. And there are 2 kinds of Punk people i see now.. The real ones, and those who think that punk is something which makes you better than others
They haven't been on a major label since 2008, people still talk about this? Some people have some growing up to do. If you don't like something, then don't fucking listen to it. It works for me, I used to care about people calling Fall Out Boy a punk band. Do I still care? No, let them. It isn't hurting anybody. As for Anti-Flag, they are a punk band that went to a major label with a two record contract to spread their message and at the same time experiment with their sound a bit.
Why are you guys fighting about who's punk or not? like @SYSCHICN said, anyone can be punk. Just cause someone listen's to non punk music or plays music and isn't necessarily punk, doesn't mean they aren't punk. Punk is a lifestyle and attitude, not how one plays music. If you have the attitude of a punk and you say you're a punk, then you're a punk. That's that, people stop obsessing about who is punk and who's not.
I don't get why people get so mad when a band tries something new, I respect it. I'm not surprised they signed with VEVO as they aren't very well known and they might need it. Anti-Flag's message hasn't changed, they're are just trying a new way to make good music. Correct me if I'm mistaken but Anti-Flag have stated that Anti-Flag does not mean Anti America, it means Anti War.
Exactly, and like its so hard to google shit. In the words of wiki " The band is well known for political activism, focusing on anti-war activism, anti-imperialism, class struggle, human rights, and various sociopolitical sentiments."
They see signing with VEVO as selling out- an anti-establishment band agreeing to do business with a giant asshole corporation is gonna rub people the wrong way.
I get that, but I think some people forget that these guys have adopted music as their life, and if they aren't making the money they need to, they are going to have to do something different.
You don't get on Vevo until you can already make enough money from your music to survive. They did just fine before it.
1. Vevo is not a record label. It is a music channel that is supplied by (mostly) major labels.
2. They only released two albums on a major label before moving back to "indie" labels.
Other than that, I agree entirely with your argument. So long as that message is continuously present and pure, I don't see a band going to a major label as an entirely bad thing. However, smaller independent labels are less likely to fuck you over on your record deals, except for Victory Records.
i love anti flag
i love blink 182
i love sum41
i love green day
i love rancid
i love Punk rock music
ska punk pop punk hardcore punk etc. = PUNK ROCK :)
Punk never dies!!
But I do inside
Been listening to these guys since the early 2000's, glad to see their still around and people are still discovering them.
Awesome song by an awesome band. And like #2 had said "punk rock is an idea and lifestyle, not a sound."
I envy those girls.. my 2 favorite things, skating and Anti-flag! *_*
This comments section is cancer. The "They still sing about the same messages they used to but they can't possibly mean it now because they have money." rhetoric is bullshit.
You realize you are able to do a lot more to help the causes you fight for with money, right? People don't question the validity of other musicians activism if they don't play Punk music. I don't see a lot of people saying how fake Serj Tankian or Tom Morello are just because they are associated with big labels.
Also, this "Punk is dead" rhetoric is also bad. Maybe you don't consider major label bands to truly be Punk, you can have that opinion. But if you would just look for some Punk music you would find it, it wouldn't be on a major label and it wouldn't ve twenty to thirty years old.
I have plenty of independent Punk/Crust/Hardcore etc bands in my music collection that are active and established within the past ten years, you're just not looking hard enough.
Oh and the thing about independents is that they don't really get promotion because they don't usually have real budgets to do anything. Don't complain about it being hard to find a band with a small fanbase and no ads, if they had ads you'd call them sell-out.
thanks for explaining it to the dumb shits
Kick Ass Thank You
Also Check out The Angry 88. Thats my band A small kinda Thrash punk band
Bartholomule01 that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. People think money makes everything better as if there aren't things to be angry about anymore once you have a little money or be inspired by. Comment sections and ignorance are cancers hahaha
Who says NOFX has died out. They're still kicking ass with new music and still touring!
What selling out isn't: Getting a haircut, wearing different clothes, using different equipment, working with different people, writing new music, selling music in one place as opposed to another, playing certain venues, etc...
What selling out is, IF it's anything: Comprising your core beliefs for material gain.
They are such an amazing band. I have been listening since underground network and they still impress.
They were so much better, a new kind of army, die for your government.... They use to be my favorite band.
@@splooge825 I love that album too but I think this album is really good and almost a masterpiece for this band
I dont think I can separate the art from the artist on this one.
This one hurts and I still wear Brand New merch; at least that guy never acted like a good person.
Against Me!, Anti-Flag, Billy Talent, and Sum 41. This would be the best tour of all time.
I love Anti-Flag because they have the balls to speak out about their opinions unlike nearly all music. I also love Green Day because their albums are fantastic (American Idiot especially) because they can write so well and get such an important message across. Punk rock will never die!
I'm so lucky I discovered this band. Proud to be a new fan
Punk Rock is so much more than just a musical genre! ;)
all those bands you mentioned are awesome regardless. Bands can't stay the same forever no matter how much we want them to.
And as far as original posts go, my original post was to simply point out that everyone needs corporate systems, everyone needs money, everyone needs commercialism, everyone needs a reason. And honesty to get some 17yr old know it all riled up. As of the present time, I've done exactly that. One day you'll get it when you're all grown up and out of mommy and daddy's house. You'll look back and say " man that annoying guy was right". Great songs, great performance and great gimmicks.
I didn't realize talent was exclusive to bands without pay
Boots Riley right there hell yeah
Esta banda mola mucho y casi nadie la escucha...
I love that eagle squeal from the guitar!
It seems to appear in all of their songs!
1:58
0:21
You love rape rock ?
It's called a pick slide
"The heart of America, where they sell souls" Wiser words have never been spoken
we need more people in the world that can see past the genres created by record stores and just appreciate music for what it is
Throwback! I miss the 2000s so much!
im so pumped i cant wait to see them on the 5th
They did not sell out. Justin Sane has even admitted that they only signed to a major record label so that they could get their message across.
16 year old girl....
Wait. Let me stop you right there. ✋😂
anyone who says they sold out listen to the lyrics of this song, its painting a pretty damn accurate picture of our society and how we try and portray it to the rest of the world
The MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner is hilarious. The USA can keep telling themselves that, while accomplishing absolutely nothing.
first of all, i think punk is just as much in the type of message being sent as the way it is being sent, its not just a style of music but it also has to do with the messages that are being brought forward, damn good band. also they didnt "sell out" or anything like that, their job is to change the way we think and try to get us to act together and change the world (something that people should start doing) who cares if they get paid because they sound so good doing it?
Quite probably the best modern punk band. great message, great music.
Todella nautittavaa Punkrockia! Awesome. Tästä ei punkbiisi juurikaan parane. Aivan mahtavaa. This is just about what punk means! Älkää työ välittäkö mun huonosta enklannin kielestä. Kappale puhuttelee upeasti. Brilliant.
You should, Justin is adooooorable. I was crushin on him at your age too. I met him when I was 12, it was super awesome. Try to go to one of their shows, they usually love to meet fans. :)
TVdude321io is right. why do these people always argue? thats the one reason i dont like anti flag videos, these people in the comments have no life and all i see is a paragraph of hateful things about being a "punk". we all are anti flag fans, we should all be friends!
Love this song had always hoped for a better video but these guys are one of my favorite bands
i was in the first row at the billy talent concert and he gave the whole first row a high five :D
And the videos concept. Is pretty cool too
3:30 way to drop the bass Dos 😂
this video is the deepest most symbolic thing i have ever scene.
My friend showed me this music video because of the roller derby. I LOVE DERBY! I'm trying out in 3 months :)
@LetNatureBe nicely said.
damn chris barker! he made my heart melt!!
love seeing Tom and Boots in this vid XD
ikr. Forget mainstream garbage. Punk Rock singers are the best!
Thats true
how did I miss this? goes to show I was too busy being miserable in 2009 to know what was going on around me.
Just Insane!
saw them in a documentary man they are good punk is not my type of music to listen 2 but they are awesome!
Labeling music is NOT PUNK. It's about being yourself. Which is what yes even Blink, Sum 41, and other bands do, encourage you to be an individual.
Wow this makes me feel old! XD still kicks ass!
@Jojodog5 no anti flag did do one with the bouncing souls, which is ironic since the souls appeal is that they only care about getting drunk.
thanks anti-flag for not playing songs off this album anymore when you tour. new kind of army and the terror state were the shit.
@RedAndWhiteLuxX95 I agree
Punk Rock. Best musical genre!! :DD
lol thats Tom Morello as the angry coach isnt it? hahaha nice.
I found a very old CD of mine called Die for the Government. I listened to it a lot many, many years ago so I looked these guys up. They've come a long way haha. Not really my kind of punk, but still, good to hear someone original out there.
saw them in cleveland! they were 100% badass! :))
2:39-2:41 Tom and Boots hahaha awesome.
Yea you might be right. I have strong opinions but thats my way. Still punk is my style. Respect to you that youre brave enough to say things loud
@RedBassplaya thats true endgame was reconfirming that, I'm still waiting for my copy of The general strike to arrive, depending on what thats like my opinion may change
These gus don't afraid of telling truth their goverment in face. respect
Rise Against picked up where Anti-Flag left off! So bummed I missed them in hollywood jan 10!
@ozymay I am tottaly with you on that, but also punk is a life style not necessarily music
anti-flag way better then all main stream punk rock.
@tbuggs1 Hell, I'm 16, and I'm growing up on NOFX, Bad Religion, Anti-Flag, Rancid, Operation Ivy, etc. The only difference is you got to EXPERIENCE them. xD
Haha Tom Morello as the coach standing with Boots Riley!
I used to think that the idea of a record contract equaling a sell out in the punk world was not necessarily true... But then I think... Green Day on Broadway. I hope if I ever see Anti Flag live again they stick to more old material and don't play the clash either.
I saw Anti-Flag for the second time a month ago, and they played a lot of good shit. A decent amount of songs pre-2007 and no Clash covers (Personally, I would love it if they'd play a Clash song since I love both bands). Nonetheless, they DID NOT disappoint. They ended the show just like when I saw them on the Warped Tour...with practically the entire band performing the crowd. I must also mention that my second time seeing them was the closest I've come to permanent hearing damage, it was fantastic!
legend.
@PFCRatoulli You sure about that? I'm almost certain it's 18 in most places of the US.
@Astrogothic101 if you listen closely to what there singing it still means something
Dude, this song just made my fire alarm go off. That's pretty fuckin' rad.
@SYSCHICN I agree. I think if anything they have evolved with their music. They are talking on issues that a lot of people don't think about. They are trying to educate people on politics, the miitary, the media, etc. I fucking love the newer Anti-Flag.
Sure, we have our problems, but the United States of America is the greatest, strongest country in the world, and don't forget that.
“16 year old girl! “stop touching yourself bro your 50
yes! definitly, just becaus it isn't made at the same time or same way doesn't mean it doesn't have the same soul, these guys, the street dogs, gaslight, hot water music. They are all punk just diffeent forms, i feel unk is more of a mindset in the bands and the fans which is shown through the lyrics, just because a guitar doesn't sound the same as another punk band doesn't categorize it as a different genre.
The end is epic look on Chris #2 :D
Hell yeah.
I don't think Anti Flag cares if they make a music video or not but let the videos come and hear some great songs
If you don't have a punk side you aren't human.
Any punk band that rocks like this and writes a song about Vieques Puerto Rico is really fucking cool in my book.
@giovannilorie THANK YOU! MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!
And they put out a great record in 2009 on SideOneDummy, and their latest album The General Strike, is quite possibly one of their best.
And Funk, if you want to name drop bands, at least name bands that aren't well known in the underground if you want to look cool, which you failed.
Fuck all those who claim hard-line and shout sell-outs anytime a band becomes slightly famous! Music should be spread across the world for all to hear!
I find it ironic that the ad VEVO gave me was one of Nicki Minaj, followed by "Real Music." Thank God I knew what was coming after those 15 seconds of torture, or I would have left.
dude!!!! rise against is amazimg!!!!!!!!!! Look up there song worth dying for, or savior
best punk hairdew in my mind Doyle from the Misfits in the 90's a fauhawk mixed with a devillock=epic(note random thought running through my mind that i wanted to share with u)
"This is not punk""This is a sellout" Punk is not about the sound that the band makes, it's not about the looks and it's not about being badass... It's about what you think... So even a Lawyer who sings Pop songs could be Punk if he thinks like a punk... And really... The word "Punk" is becoming more of a mainstream something, like a title.. And there are 2 kinds of Punk people i see now.. The real ones, and those who think that punk is something which makes you better than others
They haven't been on a major label since 2008, people still talk about this? Some people have some growing up to do. If you don't like something, then don't fucking listen to it. It works for me, I used to care about people calling Fall Out Boy a punk band. Do I still care? No, let them. It isn't hurting anybody. As for Anti-Flag, they are a punk band that went to a major label with a two record contract to spread their message and at the same time experiment with their sound a bit.
@fooligan22
I noticed that, it would actually make sense having Boots there.
@MaherLeary True
@mikespecht1 I like how people rag against Anti Flag for being on a major label but people don't bitch about Rage Against The Machine.
this is real punk rock!
@bereskwolf I'm pretty sure they did a split album together.
Seeing them October 12th in Toronto. So fucking excited!!
You are right! Its very poppy!
SPOTTED...Tom Morello in a fake mustache
@Snake8418 Yea, you're right someone is wrong. It's not SYSCHICN. It's you.
Why are you guys fighting about who's punk or not? like @SYSCHICN said, anyone can be punk. Just cause someone listen's to non punk music or plays music and isn't necessarily punk, doesn't mean they aren't punk. Punk is a lifestyle and attitude, not how one plays music. If you have the attitude of a punk and you say you're a punk, then you're a punk. That's that, people stop obsessing about who is punk and who's not.
yull always be my favorite band in this world and the other worlds now mater what im that 9 year old
Mission accomplished!