Debating in 2021 is like: No matter how plausible, logical, or backed up by facts your clause, statement or argument is, you make one grammar error and you lost the entire argument
Current Goku reminds me of the characters we used to come up with in middle school and none of them could lose no matter what even if it didn't make sense
@@dunnoausernamedunno5533Kai would have been a lot better if it used dub or heck even the sub version of dbz music rather than using a shitty version kai used.
@@gamingdood2987 I like yamamotos music, (albeit it being plagiarized lmao) and sumitomos as well for that matter. Besides, if you disagree there are fan projects out there that replace Kais OST with Faulconer, Kikuchi, Yamamoto, Sumitomo, or even a mixture.
DBZ is the best The opening we gotta power is just like the hymn of the super sayan Akira Toryiama was far beyond in the future in 80s it’s just totally crazy⚠️
I grew up watching DBZ and now I absolutely hate DBZ because of the community, like I already knew dbz was bad and I still enjoyed knowing its flaws but now I absolutely despise it
@@zecle ignant is knowingly acting foolish, while ignorant is unknowingly acting foolish. Here, him going Ultra Ignant means that he will continue to say DBZ is best while knowing all of the plot holes and issues.
Couldn't have described this feeling any better... not that Super is bad, but.. it just doesn't match the same atmosphere as Z gave, and I'm sure it's 90% because of Goku being too goofy and characters now getting random / invisible power-ups...
Yamcha would be the most powerful character in so many animes. Peak Yamcha could easily blow up a planet if he wanted to. The thing is that the rest of the cast is stronger than him, but put Yamcha on Naruto, One Piece, Attack on Titan... And he can just use a Kamehameha to destroy the strongest enemy.
It's true. As a person that ran home from school as fast as I could every day to catch THE NEXT EPISODE OF DRAGON BALL Z, there is literally nothing you can say that will change how much I love that show.
@@Pinky_Piie how did you come to that conclusion? Goku has plenty, has actual limits. Saitama neva lost and has no limits, saitama is baby superman and Superman shits on Goku
The video description is spot on. I grew up with Dragon Ball Z and it definitely has valid criticisms and is by no means perfect, but it's always going to be my all-time favourite. There's definitely many better written shows out there, but it just has a special place in my heart that no other series can match and that's how it will always be no matter what anyone says.
@@peterdisabella2156I agree I may love overlord and one punch man. But they are not the best anime of all time. I don’t really think there can be a best of all time as it based on everyone’s opinion. But some fans of any anime just are way too obsessive about the shows.
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"I'm here to Change your idea of DBZ being the best anime ever." "Whatever you say, DBZ is the best anime ever!!" *Oh i see, an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.*
@@kevinthecringedestroyer4365 crazy how oda calls db a masterpiece and considers toriyama a god but his casual fanboys would bitch 24/7 about db and if you think op has better writing than db than you really need to put your nostalgia goggles aside and actually read the series for once.
@@Coldskin1 DBZ of course. It's the golden age of the dragon ball franchise. Super was just bad compared to it, and tbh its not their fault. You can't just drag on a show where the characters just keep getting powerful. After some point it just gets kinda boring.
Some people just watch anime to feel hype. Nothing else really matters. The same way people don't care about lyrics in rap anymore. As long as the beats fire and you can dance, it will be heat.
@@Marcuskwok-hn5yi Nah. Proving my point. Great story, 11/10 charecters and fantastic world building all into one dosnt make a overrated show. So this just shows me that it's overhated. Look if its not your think that's alright, but to say it's bad is satire.
I love dragon ball z because when I was getting bullied at school I watched it for hope. I remember seeing Goku vs Perfect Cell and saying I want to be able to defend myself. Which I did because Goku inspired me to do martial arts. I related to Vegeta more because as a kid I felt that the world was against me and I couldn't get what I want which is the same as him. Vegeta wants to be number 1 but can't. A lot of people are emotionally connected to their favorite anime, so it's more than just nostalgia.
@@leovice6505 but to just say modern anime is better because they are new is false. Dbz, Cowboy Bebop, Rurouni Kenshin are way better than most modern anime due to the story alone. Dragon ball alone crushes half the crap I see today.
@@leovice6505 nostalgia ?bro you people think everything is nostalgia when this man literally just explained where he got his life valued from . Smh its more than just "nostalgia"
@@leovice6505 I never implied u said that I'm saying you dont understand the difference between strong feelings towards something and why you do what you do.
Yo goku was a like a role model for me when I was comin' up. Somedays were so damn bad, I wished Goku was my dad. You can't take away Dragon Ball emotional connection from those of us who grew up with the thing. Sure it may not be the "best anime" in the production sense of it. But on a spiritual and individual level, that shit was hella lit. I grew up a better man, because of the values I learned from Dragon Ball. 1. Always take care of your loved ones if you can. 2. Try to be good, never fail to be kind. 3. Take care of your own body, as it is your temple.
Yea dragon ball is good and I personally love it since I watched I grew up with it. Hell I even enjoyed dragon ball super. Still can't say it's one of the best anime though. It does have its issues. No one is saying you cant enjoy it and hold it dear to your heart though. I enjoy McDonalds sometimes even though the food isnt 5 star.
@@sanjaypendurty5590 pokemon and digimon didnt hit the same. Or other shows that were on with dbz. Could argue yuyu hakasho is better but it didnt pull me in as a kid like dbz did. I think a lot of its flaws you just dont notice as a kid. My dad would call it angry shouting show because how long people would power up but I loved it as a kid.
I would like to see "People who think Jojo is the best anime," if it hasn't be done already. It's amusing because I have friends that genuinely think Jojo is the best anime, but they won't watch any other anime to test that statement.
“The demon of nostalgia” for DBZ fans is too real😂 DBZ was my first anime and it is dear to my heart but it doesn’t fulfill everything I’m looking for in a show (like philosophy)
Train hard, enjoy life, and protect your loved ones. What more philosophy do you need than that? DBZ hits so hard because it rings at the core of being a man. Other shounen touch on similar themes, but none is as pure and deep as Dragon ball.
I used to wait a week to watch a 30 minute episode of DBZ before soccer practice. I remember watching en episode during the Frieza vs Goku fight on Namek. There were 15 minutes of commercials, 10 minutes of Goku yelling and powering up and maybe 5 minutes of dialogue and fighting. Still nothing beats the excitement of waiting for that next Saturday 😂
I would have hated to watch dbz weekly. I caught up before super was out but didn't even know it was out until episode 50. It was the first anime I've had to wait and watch weekly. I watched it weekly from episode 50. I'm currently watch one piece weekly. Such a pain lmao
The shonen genre as a whole is now basically everyone’s gateway into anime. Nowadays people get into anime for 4 reasons 1. Cool fights 2. Good story 3. Well written characters 4. Booba
Fr we know its a normie show there is no problem with that thats why I always stick with shonen I do like a lot of non shonen jump but db is in my heart no matter how old we get
This is literally my music teacher, after he told me he watched DBZ I asked him if he watched Naruto and he said no because characters in Naruto were too weak, I looked at him like "really bruh?", then said Naruto had way better fights and stuff and he said "but Goku just way stronger".
I know Dragonball Z has some issues with the plot, and many shows that have come out since its release have improved on what Dragonball Z did in many ways. However, the characters and themes of Dragonball Z are so strong, they hold a special place in my heart that I do not think any show can replace.
@Pythonista nope, as a young boy I loved the themes of, Hard work and Training can overcome adversity. Everyone talks about how OP the character are but they EARNED IT! years of dedication and backbreaking training to get that power. Everyone had some special talent but they trained it beyond their limits to achieve godhood. I still like to go back and watch it for those themes. Current anime with OP characters skip all the training and themes for the idea of power fantasies. then everyone downplayed DB to that level as well.
@Pythonista dragon ball is timeless good. Dragon ball has legendary moments, another anime cant do the same coolness or perfect moments like dragon ball. All anime are copies of the Goat.
That's why people should just say it's their personal opinion and experience. It's when DBZ fans say it's objectively the best is when it gets fucking annoying.
@Pythonista nope, tbh dbz isnt as good as most shows nowadays but its lessons and the impact on peoples lives is what made people love it, some people got stronger cause of db and got through hard sh1t cause of it, its what made the show special. For me, its just the badass fights and even if it's childish, who cares? It's enjoyable and fun and that's why i love the show
i'm a 50 year old man, and I'm still watching dragonball. 30 years ago when I was 20 it became my most favorite thing to fill my empty life... I'm also divorced, lost custody to the kids, and I"m still somehow a virgin living in their parents backyard tool-shed. BUT I CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT DRAGONBALL SUPER EPISODE!
Dragonball owes it's existence to Kung Fu movies, Journey to West, Akira Toriyama's humor, his editors, his wife, and the author of Saint Seiya, Masami Kurumada. Its great in own right and changed the anime landscape going forward, but even it has flaws.
Everything has flaws tho thats why I love Db because it never takes itself as serious as the people in these comments lmao 😂 they don’t even understand what the meaning behind DB is at all, yet they constantly slander it, I get they’re mad because it’s super popular but the slander is unnecessary for something as influential as DB.
every anime has its flaws, AOT current season is trash asf, MHA current season last like 10 episodes are trash asf literally mode of the heavy hitters are doing the exact same bs on their shows at the same time. can't say nothing about Demon Slayers its new and juijutsu kaishen new also so can't say much but i had higher hopes from MHA and AOT
I was one of those younger anime fans who never grew up with dragon ball and always thought that only meat heads could like that show but after i started watching the show out of curiosity, i started realizing how deep and truly rich the story is... it's genuinely one of my favorite animes now and i was a hater before 😅
Back in 1991 we didn't have super cool anime fights scenes, power ups, transformations, and overall intense stories like Dragon ball z, it broke ground for anime. People didn't even need to like anime or know what anime was to like Dragon ball z
@@redomnitrix6834 and what do you mean by that? Dragon ball was intense. So many body builders and fighters look up to it. There is no other show doing that in a massive scale. Dragon ball isn’t just an anime, it’s more than that lol. You can’t get more intense than that.
@@ange2812 easy man i love dragon ball for its fight music and cool transformation but, the writing is a bit simplistic for an anime thats all I saying, an 8 year old can follow it. Vs. The complex stories of other anime. You want me to explain further or you get it?
Surely dragon ball isn't perfect nor best but it's still a masterpiece for me till this day cuz it set a standard for fiction in it's time.....(and when i say it's a masterpiece i'm not implying that it's the best in the world or the best anime ever, but still something everyone atleast enjoyed at some point in their life)
That's the thing. People confuse "masterpiece" and "pioneer". Dragonball and Dragonball Z 100% deserve respect as pioneers for the genre. But writing and the formula have evolved while Dragonball chose to stay the same. staying the same isn't even inherently bad but people need more than the bare minimum to enjoy a story nowadays. DBS is just so damn predictable & boring
I love this because that's totally me.. I love a ton of Animes but the Dragonball series will always be my favorite because it's what got me into Anime to start with.🤷🏾
@@life-sf1oz they can if they want and I do because it is the first one I watched I watched it before I started shows that target kids like pokemon, digimon and beyblade
Somehow it's debatable Even though I like aot more Can agree that Kamehameha is legendary just cause it's old And Shinzou sasegyo is relatable till S3 then it's not So the match goes to goku
He forgot to mention the part where the MC literally turned into a weeping simp towards the end of the series, that wouldn't ended the debate right there
That outro song reminds everyone why DBZ is the greatest ever, especially in terms of nostalgia! I still remember how amazed I was at the SSJ3 transformation power up!
It will always be the best to me. DBZ is probably the biggest reason I even like anime today, and it still entertains me, which most shows from my childhood don't. I've seen so many good anime from other genres now, but DBZ just hits different.
i love how all the “bad” things he pointed out in Dragon Ball can genuinely be found it lots of other anime, not even just shonen, like almost every category lmao. not trying to say it’s not valid just brining light to it
@@zenith5048 predictable plot is something ingrained in shounen, so dbz having some isn’t a problem and even then, it’s a pretty unpredictable show considering it’s age. Pacing problems is also a problem ingrained in shounen, even shows that people consider peak fiction like one piece and hxh have pacing problems. Let’s also not forget that for dragon balls case, the pacing problem doesn’t really exist since even the filler is enjoyable for most people. Pikkon and turles are still super people characters in dragon ball and broly and gogeta were so popular that they eventually became canon, you don’t get that in most shounen.
I grew up watching this on VHS tapes I borrowed from my friend. And then I remember waiting for the new season to come out. It was a childhood experience. That's what made DBZ amazing. Yes it was flawed but that's 99% of entertainment. Just enjoy the show. Plus, you have to love the thing that inspired DBZ: Abridged.
2:53 man this theme😌! Definitely there are some flaws about dbs ,but reason it so touchy bcz it have some innocence that keeps everyone alive! It's bcz of that Gokus innocent childish Ness!
DBZ might be a series with numerous problems but let's be real for alot of kids who grew up with it, it taught alot of us life lessons that we'll always take with us for the rest of our lives. Also for alot of us DBZ was the first show we ever watched with stakes lol
How to be an ass hole, you can beat the bad guy into being humble if you jump him?, have faith enough in your 13yro son to save the world because you didnt plan on the main villain being that strong. I love DBZ but for the life lessons you might as well just watch one piece.
like what???? the main character is obsessed with fighting to the point of insanity, a pickle raised his son better than him. The entire plot of the show comes down to goku nearly getting beat up then powering up for 1000 episodes
If you look at dbz critically NOW that your older at least half of the show contains nothing of substance philosophically. Nothing wrong with that but dont make it seem like it was ahead of there time in terms of characterization, plot development, deeper themes and thought provoking discussions. All of that came from vegeta and trunks. Everyone else plateaued in development...
Other animes:actual transformation that change their overall design Dbz:haha make shitting pose for 3 seconds and change your hair color now 900000+ power buff
Dragon Ball Z was broadcasted to almost every corner on this planet due to the reach of TV networks in many countries. The fact that Internet is private and also accessing a legal website is private and has a fee, anime nowadays simply does not have the impact on the GENERAL population like in the past. You see, Dragon Ball Z is not a weeb or Otaku thing, it's pop culture in several countries...
@@techy3157 Anime in the 80s and 90s. Anime is highly filtered back then. Only the most popular ones get to be seen on international tv. And that is Dragonball or Doraemon.
It may be nostalgia, but DBZ is classic/legendary, it was the foundation for so many animes, so of course it has flaws - it was one of the first and all the new animes can learn from it and be better (in fact the new animes should be better, they had all these years to improve writing, plot development, pacing etc). It's like comparing Atari and PS5 and saying PS5 is better than Atari - well no shit lol, time has changed and improved. That being said, I still enjoy watching DBZ today, and ya DBZ power level is still untouchable.... which means it's the best anime lololol
Ironically, plenty of animes surpass DB's power level (The most famous example probably being Gurren Laggann) And don't forget Cowboy Bebop in all this, IIRC it too was influential, right alongside Dragon Ball I think.
Considering it actually inspired so much mangakas and the global influence it had around the globe, I don't think it's purely nostalgia to admit it's a classic, just fax.
@@HOLDENPOPE Plenty? Plenty you say yet you just gave one anime example. Yet people use DragonBall as the bench mark of things when it comes to power levels and anime battles.
I love dragon ball z, one of my favorite anime’s but there’s no way I’d say it’s the best anime, however I’d definitely argue it’s one of the most important anime’s
@@skittles664 exactly its all about those 2 frame animated fist fights (the fights are epic ngl but like you know those certain scenes im talking about) also you can't say that an anime about only fighting with no real purpose is the best. i love dragon ball but there are anime with great fights and story/writing that make them better
DB will always have special place in my heart. I would never compare dB with any other anime. There are anime’s with better plots storyline or animation but dB is a special feel.
There's no "Predictable Cliches" DB was way back in the 80's, it's a certified OG from which cliches are created from as the standard for new gen anime!...
DB is heavily inspired by "A Journey to the West" which has the common "traveler travels with other travelers and sometimes gets into conflict" cliche. Even the screaming could be a reference to Jojo. DB (Not Z or SUper) manga started around the same time as Jojo Phantom Blood Manga, and that had a lot of screaming. It's safe to say that was what inspired the screaming during fighting thing in anime. Or maybe the Super Sentai Franchise (which I believe started in the 60s) "Main Character wanting to be..." was also very common.
@@goldenpersonwhoexists8834 Actually you are very wrong, Araki himself admits that he's influenced by Toriyama. part 3 DIO is literally a reference to Super Saiyan with the aura and hair.
It has lots of unpredictable events:- 1)Goku being an alien(saiyan) 2) mysterious discovery of another time machine identical to trunks's/ introduction of cell(some mysterious being emerged from trunks's own time machine and emerged from cacoon who's sucking people out of life 3) learning that db's were made by some alien race which all this time we thought to originate from earth 4)ssj3 5)bulma having a sister 6) bulma knowing Jaco from childhood 7) Vegeta self sacrifice 8) in dbs, most theories about ending of t.o.p, ending of Goku black arc all were wrong In my head I can still remember atleast 10 more casual moments which were unexpected plot twists, ofc there are parts that are predictable, but i think the unpredictable part are too unpredictable and amazing so it surpasses the predictable parts
@@kyubi_9405 things that people consider influential tend to be good. Not an anime reference but it’s like how MJ Kobe and Lebron have influenced many young players in the nba today to love the game and make it to the pros
Idk why so many people throw this out like its valid just to try to defend a show for no reason. Its not like dbz is down in popularity and noones talking about it so they gotta make it seem good. Its actually kinda the opposite but we're getting into opinion territory ig.
“I’m no longer listening to anything you say” is most accurate depiction of every debate ever.
Yep. And they also hurl verbal insults at you and expect you to sit there and take it.
Thinking about it, it's better an debate be like this than like with the other videos where someone died or suffered really hard.
Ultra stupidity instinct.
Debating in 2021 is like: No matter how plausible, logical, or backed up by facts your clause, statement or argument is, you make one grammar error and you lost the entire argument
@@DrippleDragon *"That's a tecnic really famous between the most stupid of minds"*
"But can he beat Goku?"
"No, he can't beat Goku."
The conditions have been met.
Amazing comment
Lmao
Just like DC famboys - can captain America defeat superman? No, so yeah, DC is obviously better than marvel, checkmate 😂🤣
Current Goku reminds me of the characters we used to come up with in middle school and none of them could lose no matter what even if it didn't make sense
@@geox8485 yet my mans Naruto claps him 🤣🤣🤣
"Can he beat goku?"
"Nah"
"ive heard enough, im satisfied"
**iS thAt a jOjO rEfErEncE**
That means opm better than dbz then
But can he beat giorno?
@@Vex331 who said saitama can beat Goku
@@ahmedaziz8660 he can
"I know what your problem is you probably watched DBZ Kai" that got me
And I’m jacking Kai too
lmaoo
kai is better tho (except for the early buu saga that was wack)
@@dunnoausernamedunno5533Kai would have been a lot better if it used dub or heck even the sub version of dbz music rather than using a shitty version kai used.
@@gamingdood2987 I like yamamotos music, (albeit it being plagiarized lmao) and sumitomos as well for that matter. Besides, if you disagree there are fan projects out there that replace Kais OST with Faulconer, Kikuchi, Yamamoto, Sumitomo, or even a mixture.
"Someone who grew up watching DBZ, you can never change the way they feel about it" - Fact
bruh yes.... DBZ orig had them 45 sec yelling scenes.... lawl
@@KaramHaitham W
@@KaramHaitham not the best but GOATED
DBZ is the best
The opening we gotta power is just like the hymn of the super sayan
Akira Toryiama was far beyond in the future in 80s it’s just totally crazy⚠️
I grew up watching DBZ and now I absolutely hate DBZ because of the community, like I already knew dbz was bad and I still enjoyed knowing its flaws but now I absolutely despise it
It was over when the ultra instinct theme started playing
@@rengganiz8190 why do you people keep using pictures of women on Google except your real face, plus your gay
The song can carry the anime
Like it is meant to be
right, lmao
"Oh, no. He's going Ultra Ignant"
My soul left my body with that ☠☠☠
Lmao that killed me too 😂😂
He killed me with that
What does ignant mean ? Ignorant ?
@@zecle ignant is knowingly acting foolish, while ignorant is unknowingly acting foolish. Here, him going Ultra Ignant means that he will continue to say DBZ is best while knowing all of the plot holes and issues.
@@ahshitherewegoagain8695 ok thx
"You've been possessed by the demon of nostalgia."
Me: "Just leave me to my fate."
Couldn't have described this feeling any better... not that Super is bad, but.. it just doesn't match the same atmosphere as Z gave, and I'm sure it's 90% because of Goku being too goofy and characters now getting random / invisible power-ups...
💯🎯
@@huje4539 db is traah all of it
@@Makitosenpai Who is lil bro 💀🙏
@@huje4539 through heaven and earth I am one and only unknown one
"you probably watched dragon Ball kai"
☝️This is so relatable 😂
😂😂😂 true bro true
@@theguy6787 ikr
My friend still talks shit to me for watching kai version 😹
Kai is great but i hate kid gohans voice especially in his teen
@@daizenmarcurio dub or sub
@@yagamilight6118 dub
People who call everything "mid": _Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be _*_LEGENDARY_*
Cough cough... Jojo fans be like
This comment was pretty mid ngl
@@vividverision nah
There's a reason the mangaka of My Hero Academia named his main protagonist MIDoriya
Js
How tf they gonna fight a mirror
"I'm just gonna try to remind you about the bad things in the show"
"Yamcha"
Yamcha can't even sleep without getting shit
Our beast yamcha is back in the moro arc he also dominated universe 6 characters in a baseball match
@@andrewdasilva7786 well that's because he's the only one who knew how to play, and even that didn't matter in the end
Best****
@@ArjunDOnlyHero lmao
Yamcha would be the most powerful character in so many animes. Peak Yamcha could easily blow up a planet if he wanted to. The thing is that the rest of the cast is stronger than him, but put Yamcha on Naruto, One Piece, Attack on Titan... And he can just use a Kamehameha to destroy the strongest enemy.
0:55 *every DBZ fan watching felt that*
Right
It's true. As a person that ran home from school as fast as I could every day to catch THE NEXT EPISODE OF DRAGON BALL Z, there is literally nothing you can say that will change how much I love that show.
You can love something while admitting its faults and realizing it's not the best thing ever.
@@frizen9328 there is such thing as the best show, it's all about people's opinions
No*
@@jaheimcharles8550 For instance, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the best show to me, though there are people who complain about it.
@@thedarklord5129 but atleast is has a good plot unlike childish dbz plot
"Oh no, he's going Ultra Ignorant." 😂
Had me rolling 🤣
*ignit
Get it right 😂
What does "BS power ups' mean?
@@user_7727Xkdt bullshit power ups
@@user_7727Xkdt it means dragon ball super power ups
"If your main character can't beat Goku, then the show ain't shit" ahh yes, my strongest attack, I always save this for last.
Saitama watching with a handbag
@@qad951 *saitama gets clapped*
Saitama loses my guy, now sailor moon, rimuru and battler that's another story
Of course. After all, if something isn’t sh!t, then that’s a good thing.
@@Pinky_Piie how did you come to that conclusion? Goku has plenty, has actual limits. Saitama neva lost and has no limits, saitama is baby superman and Superman shits on Goku
The video description is spot on. I grew up with Dragon Ball Z and it definitely has valid criticisms and is by no means perfect, but it's always going to be my all-time favourite. There's definitely many better written shows out there, but it just has a special place in my heart that no other series can match and that's how it will always be no matter what anyone says.
Yeah favorite doesnt mean best. Alot of my favorites I can safely say are not the best.
@@peterdisabella2156I agree I may love overlord and one punch man. But they are not the best anime of all time. I don’t really think there can be a best of all time as it based on everyone’s opinion. But some fans of any anime just are way too obsessive about the shows.
Without DB and DBZ you wouldn't probably have the new better written shows and they all take inspiration from DB and DBZ
@SuperHns That is true. But it shouldn't be used to say it's better.
@@SuperHnsthat's correct but still db is not the best
never thought "Shinzou sasageyo" would be used in exorcism... lmao💀
"Bad parenting"
Piccolo: Am I a joke to you?
DBZA Goku: "I don't get it."
That's bad babysitting
Goku wasnt really a bad parent tho....
@@wanted2657 no, he TRIED not being a bad parent, lol. He was a HORRIBLE father.
@@murtajiz545 no he wasn't, he was a reckless one but not a bad one
Dragonball Hardcore Fan: “Can [insert character] beat goku tho?”
“Of course not bu-“
DragonBall Hardcore Fan: *Cockiness 100*
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Insert saitama.😂😂😂
Ikr a characters strength doesn't determine if it's a good anime or not
@@EnvyLeviathan Dawg so many characters can beat goku 😭
@@cynicanarchist4923 DBZ fan : We got a Saitama Troll here
This really got recommended to me after the news 💔 Rest in peace Toriyama sensei 🐉❤️🕊️
"I'm here to Change your idea of DBZ being the best anime ever."
"Whatever you say, DBZ is the best anime ever!!"
*Oh i see, an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.*
Tatakaow!
Oda is a better writer than toriyama and toyataro combined
@@Neatram1 don't get me wrong toriyama is million times better than oda
@@kevinthecringedestroyer4365 crazy how oda calls db a masterpiece and considers toriyama a god but his casual fanboys would bitch 24/7 about db and if you think op has better writing than db than you really need to put your nostalgia goggles aside and actually read the series for once.
@@Neatram1 oda literally considers toriyama his teacher he looks up to him plus stop comparing the both they're great in there own way
"How is Attack on Titan Better if Eren Jaeger can't beat Goku."
The satisfaction on this man's FACE! lol
Whats better super or dbz
@@Coldskin1 DBZ of course. It's the golden age of the dragon ball franchise. Super was just bad compared to it, and tbh its not their fault. You can't just drag on a show where the characters just keep getting powerful. After some point it just gets kinda boring.
@@sadkritx6200 my man spitting pure golden facts
@@Coldskin1 Dbs could never match dbz
@@Coldskin1 gt is better than super you Can’t stop me
"The Scripture... of Attack on titan" I lost it, lmao.
Attack on titan ending was so bad
@@Anoxoris lol no
@@Keihzaru it was
@@Anoxoris it was good
@@achrefgaming8874 Nope
Rip 🪦 Akira Toriyama 1955-2024.
@@Hunter_Guy69 You edited that comment and it's still wrong. "No one is cares" - that's just amazing bro.
Some people just watch anime to feel hype. Nothing else really matters. The same way people don't care about lyrics in rap anymore. As long as the beats fire and you can dance, it will be heat.
True
But back then people did watch anime for the characters and relatability same as rap.
Wow never thought about it like that but it makes since
Bruh so damn true
Yeah, still the writing in Dragon Ball is underappreciated.
DB fans live by 5 words: *”Can they beat Goku tho?”*
Reality bending characters: "ahahaha,you serious?"
FR LMAO💀
Fac
LMAO
No they dont
I’m bout to start using that “Oh no.. he’s going Ultra Ignant” cus that took me clean out 😂😂
Same
That is definitely one of the best parts of the skit. 😆
It may or may not be the best…
But it’s always the one I come back to lol
Agreed
Nah
Yep. My fav
It's overhated
Overrated
Underrated
And misunderstood all at once.
@@magnesium3273it is just overrated
@@Marcuskwok-hn5yi
Nah.
Proving my point.
Great story, 11/10 charecters and fantastic world building all into one dosnt make a overrated show. So this just shows me that it's overhated.
Look if its not your think that's alright, but to say it's bad is satire.
“No, he can’t beat goku”
Well I think that about wraps things up here
wraps*
@@purpleey mistake fixed
@@TheLegend-tw7rf Nah we still exist
Goku can be defeated
through Academics🤔
It was already over the minute he spewed those five words 😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!!!!!😊
I love dragon ball z because when I was getting bullied at school I watched it for hope. I remember seeing Goku vs Perfect Cell and saying I want to be able to defend myself. Which I did because Goku inspired me to do martial arts. I related to Vegeta more because as a kid I felt that the world was against me and I couldn't get what I want which is the same as him. Vegeta wants to be number 1 but can't. A lot of people are emotionally connected to their favorite anime, so it's more than just nostalgia.
@@leovice6505 but to just say modern anime is better because they are new is false. Dbz, Cowboy Bebop, Rurouni Kenshin are way better than most modern anime due to the story alone. Dragon ball alone crushes half the crap I see today.
@@leovice6505 nostalgia ?bro you people think everything is nostalgia when this man literally just explained where he got his life valued from . Smh its more than just "nostalgia"
How do you think about my combo........🥰🥰🥰
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@@leovice6505 I never implied u said that I'm saying you dont understand the difference between strong feelings towards something and why you do what you do.
@@leovice6505 wrong. ur really forcing this narrative
Yo goku was a like a role model for me when I was comin' up. Somedays were so damn bad, I wished Goku was my dad. You can't take away Dragon Ball emotional connection from those of us who grew up with the thing. Sure it may not be the "best anime" in the production sense of it. But on a spiritual and individual level, that shit was hella lit. I grew up a better man, because of the values I learned from Dragon Ball.
1. Always take care of your loved ones if you can.
2. Try to be good, never fail to be kind.
3. Take care of your own body, as it is your temple.
Yea dragon ball is good and I personally love it since I watched I grew up with it. Hell I even enjoyed dragon ball super. Still can't say it's one of the best anime though. It does have its issues. No one is saying you cant enjoy it and hold it dear to your heart though. I enjoy McDonalds sometimes even though the food isnt 5 star.
I understand your emotions but Goku as *dad* , I'd love Gohan as dad but Goku probably will get you into lots of troubles 😂 as a dad
bruh u like and have ties to the anime u watch first not only dragon ball
and db has very less less values u can learn from lol
@@sanjaypendurty5590 pokemon and digimon didnt hit the same. Or other shows that were on with dbz. Could argue yuyu hakasho is better but it didnt pull me in as a kid like dbz did. I think a lot of its flaws you just dont notice as a kid. My dad would call it angry shouting show because how long people would power up but I loved it as a kid.
@@sanjaypendurty5590 what's funny lol? Naruto doesn't teach life lessons either. The only thing that can teach life lessons is LIFE!
Ha what a time for this to pop up.
rip toriyama
You truly can’t change the way someone feels when they grew up with Dragon Ball, some people may or may not like it but they gotta deal with it
He’s finally back bruh 💀
It’s only been 2 weeks lol
As a Dragon Ball fan, this is completely accurate lol
@@KaramHaitham Thanks ;)
@@KaramHaitham Real talk lol
You're talking to ghosts
Damn, tf happened 💀
Reply 5
Akira Toriyama, thank you for everything. Rest in peace legend !
I would like to see "People who think Jojo is the best anime," if it hasn't be done already. It's amusing because I have friends that genuinely think Jojo is the best anime, but they won't watch any other anime to test that statement.
The Jojo stans are actually the worst Anime fans of them all
Jojo is definitely amazing. But, I don't think it's the best anime out there. Maybe in top5 in my opinion.
@@derrandy416 sticky finga
It's not. But it's surely the most BIZARRE
@@ironeagle9096 only language I'm hearing from this guy is facts
“The demon of nostalgia” for DBZ fans is too real😂 DBZ was my first anime and it is dear to my heart but it doesn’t fulfill everything I’m looking for in a show (like philosophy)
He said the demon of nostalgia
you didnt pay thgat much attention to dragon ball if you think it has no philophical vaue
Bruh I am lucky that Adult Swim got to me first with Cowboy Bebop and Fullmetal Alchemist 😅 because DBZ is overrated…
@@dirtydeesenpai so is fma so what? Dbz birthed most shounen today regardless of your opinion most of which is based on other’s opinions of the show.
Train hard, enjoy life, and protect your loved ones. What more philosophy do you need than that? DBZ hits so hard because it rings at the core of being a man. Other shounen touch on similar themes, but none is as pure and deep as Dragon ball.
When you grew up with Dragonball it's in your DNA. Nothing can beat Dragonball if you have it in your DNA.
I grew up with it, and now I hate it
@@loveonepieceforever8203Same.
@@loveonepieceforever8203 One Piece is inspired from Dragon Ball
I grew up with it and now because of TotatlyNotMark channel i love it more-
@@AlKingz only a bit. oda had much bigger inspirations and still would have made one piece without dragon ball
RIP Akira Toriyama
"Every show is inspired by it!"
So y'all forgetting about Fist of the North Star, huh?
Nah ppl just didn't know it was too far back
So you also forgetting about some Cavemen drawings thousands of years ago?
saint Seiya too
They both can 🤡
And JoJo..came out three years after DB
When I saw “he’s going ultra ignant” I was done 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
LOL same 😆
Me too 😆
But goku can be Defeated though🤔 Through Academics!
I used to wait a week to watch a 30 minute episode of DBZ before soccer practice. I remember watching en episode during the Frieza vs Goku fight on Namek. There were 15 minutes of commercials, 10 minutes of Goku yelling and powering up and maybe 5 minutes of dialogue and fighting. Still nothing beats the excitement of waiting for that next Saturday 😂
It's called football not soccer
@@morro2227sir... We live in America
I would have hated to watch dbz weekly. I caught up before super was out but didn't even know it was out until episode 50. It was the first anime I've had to wait and watch weekly. I watched it weekly from episode 50. I'm currently watch one piece weekly. Such a pain lmao
@@morro2227 News flash. Other countries exist. In South Africa we call it soccer.
@@LadyOfTheEdits news flash that’s not what it’s called
Damn recommended at the wrong time
Remember the days when Dragon was seen as an animation juggernaut? Nowadays, people mock it for being a "normie" or gateway anime.
The shonen genre as a whole is now basically everyone’s gateway into anime. Nowadays people get into anime for 4 reasons
1. Cool fights
2. Good story
3. Well written characters
4. Booba
Fr we know its a normie show there is no problem with that thats why I always stick with shonen I do like a lot of non shonen jump but db is in my heart no matter how old we get
@@user_Z- the 4 one is for mostly Japanese
dragonball/DBZ is too old now to be "normie" anime honestly
i say a normie anime is something like my hero becuasee its not old like dragonball
People said the same 10-15 years ago, they just hating lol
“Shinso sasageyo!!” I can’t 🤣🤣🤣
Shinzou"
@@Asahiz_ super saiyan*
2:21 Hey, don't diss my man Yamcha like that.
This is literally my music teacher, after he told me he watched DBZ I asked him if he watched Naruto and he said no because characters in Naruto were too weak, I looked at him like "really bruh?", then said Naruto had way better fights and stuff and he said "but Goku just way stronger".
0:55 was soo fricken accurate
Cilvanis really upping his creativity. We love to see the effort.
I know Dragonball Z has some issues with the plot, and many shows that have come out since its release have improved on what Dragonball Z did in many ways. However, the characters and themes of Dragonball Z are so strong, they hold a special place in my heart that I do not think any show can replace.
@Pythonista nope, as a young boy I loved the themes of, Hard work and Training can overcome adversity. Everyone talks about how OP the character are but they EARNED IT! years of dedication and backbreaking training to get that power. Everyone had some special talent but they trained it beyond their limits to achieve godhood. I still like to go back and watch it for those themes. Current anime with OP characters skip all the training and themes for the idea of power fantasies. then everyone downplayed DB to that level as well.
@Pythonista dragon ball is timeless good. Dragon ball has legendary moments, another anime cant do the same coolness or perfect moments like dragon ball. All anime are copies of the Goat.
That's why people should just say it's their personal opinion and experience. It's when DBZ fans say it's objectively the best is when it gets fucking annoying.
@@kristallgold3615 lmao.
@Pythonista nope, tbh dbz isnt as good as most shows nowadays but its lessons and the impact on peoples lives is what made people love it, some people got stronger cause of db and got through hard sh1t cause of it, its what made the show special. For me, its just the badass fights and even if it's childish, who cares? It's enjoyable and fun and that's why i love the show
Without a doubt, R.I.P. Akira Toriyama.
Havent watched AoT or Dragonball but still thoroughly enjoyed this. That's how you know Cilvanis makes good content
Tokyo Revengers video is the only good one, I’m afraid
@@zurku_xeno Definitely arguable.......
@@zurku_xeno "tokyo revengers is the good one" are you delusional mate.
Sorry mate, this TG video is remotely extremely funny unlike some of his other ones.
@@zurku_xeno can you take your unnecessary negativity elsewhere? pls & thx
i'm a 50 year old man, and I'm still watching dragonball. 30 years ago when I was 20 it became my most favorite thing to fill my empty life...
I'm also divorced, lost custody to the kids, and I"m still somehow a virgin living in their parents backyard tool-shed.
BUT I CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT DRAGONBALL SUPER EPISODE!
God blessed you with a good life 🙏
Damn bro what @ceeLook said
Ok Boomer
You 50 still watching the most basic anime good for you
@@mrkingdrago1013 good for you that you watched “muh more deeper & psychological” anime
Dragonball owes it's existence to Kung Fu movies, Journey to West, Akira Toriyama's humor, his editors, his wife, and the author of Saint Seiya, Masami Kurumada. Its great in own right and changed the anime landscape going forward, but even it has flaws.
Being the bet does not mean you're flawless
Everything has flaws tho thats why I love Db because it never takes itself as serious as the people in these comments lmao 😂 they don’t even understand what the meaning behind DB is at all, yet they constantly slander it, I get they’re mad because it’s super popular but the slander is unnecessary for something as influential as DB.
I will agree... If you beat Goku.
every anime has its flaws, AOT current season is trash asf, MHA current season last like 10 episodes are trash asf literally mode of the heavy hitters are doing the exact same bs on their shows at the same time.
can't say nothing about Demon Slayers its new and juijutsu kaishen new also so can't say much but i had higher hopes from MHA and AOT
DB doesn't own shit to Saint Seiya lmao
I was one of those younger anime fans who never grew up with dragon ball and always thought that only meat heads could like that show but after i started watching the show out of curiosity, i started realizing how deep and truly rich the story is... it's genuinely one of my favorite animes now and i was a hater before 😅
Back in 1991 we didn't have super cool anime fights scenes, power ups, transformations, and overall intense stories like Dragon ball z, it broke ground for anime. People didn't even need to like anime or know what anime was to like Dragon ball z
EXACTLY!!!!! Say it louder for the kids who never understood that!
Intense stories is a bit of a stretch.
@@redomnitrix6834 and what do you mean by that? Dragon ball was intense. So many body builders and fighters look up to it. There is no other show doing that in a massive scale. Dragon ball isn’t just an anime, it’s more than that lol. You can’t get more intense than that.
@@ange2812 easy man i love dragon ball for its fight music and cool transformation but, the writing is a bit simplistic for an anime thats all I saying, an 8 year old can follow it. Vs. The complex stories of other anime. You want me to explain further or you get it?
@@ange2812 fist of the north star.
Hahahaha! You can never take away a Saiyan's pride!
HELL NAW THERE ARE MORE OF THEM
@@elugaporp_2 call frieza!!!!!
A monke
@@elugaporp_2 call an ambulance 😨😰😨
FACTS!!!!
Surely dragon ball isn't perfect nor best but it's still a masterpiece for me till this day cuz it set a standard for fiction in it's time.....(and when i say it's a masterpiece i'm not implying that it's the best in the world or the best anime ever, but still something everyone atleast enjoyed at some point in their life)
That's the thing. People confuse "masterpiece" and "pioneer".
Dragonball and Dragonball Z 100% deserve respect as pioneers for the genre. But writing and the formula have evolved while Dragonball chose to stay the same. staying the same isn't even inherently bad but people need more than the bare minimum to enjoy a story nowadays. DBS is just so damn predictable & boring
@@Aether_GM100% agree
It had a huge impact but that doesn't mean the show itself is good
@@Aether_GM yeah Dragonball has N E V E R been a “masterpiece.” People just don’t know how to take the nostalgia goggles off
@@andrewdavis3924 @aether i disagree with all of u , end of dragon ball transition to dragon ball z is a masterpiece
"Ultra Ignant" actually made me LOL. Good one bro!
It doesn’t matter how much I love Dragonball, nothing I’ve ever read will ever top the blessing of Berserk for me.
True, but this is talking about anime, not manga, and we ALL know what happened with the manga.
Gantz?
🐐
*anime, but also the manga as well, now that I think about it.
Facts man
DBZ: I am the shonen king. Everyone is inspired by me.
Fist of the north star: *sad berserk and jojo sounds*
Berserk is obviously shounen and yeah fist of the north star and JoJo came after DB
@@ahnafahmed4951 nah fist of the north star came before dragon ball,
@@ahnafahmed4951
fist of the north star 1983
DB 1984
@@ahnafahmed4951 Even I know this
@@ahnafahmed4951 Jojo came up in 1987 and dragon ball came up in 1989. Cry about it
Ultra Ignant should become the next meme. It's freaking brilliant.
1:45😂😂😂 damm ur good
I love this because that's totally me.. I love a ton of Animes but the Dragonball series will always be my favorite because it's what got me into Anime to start with.🤷🏾
You might wanna rephrase that because that Insinuates that you believe that powerlevels make a show good and are ultra ignorant
@@johnnyjoestarwithdrip6960 wut
@@johnnyjoestarwithdrip6960 who said power levels make a show great? It's the childhood nostalgia and connection that makes us love it
That's not the problem the problem is with the people who think it's best anime ever
@@life-sf1oz they can if they want and I do because it is the first one I watched
I watched it before I started shows that target kids like pokemon, digimon and beyblade
DB fan : Kakarot is the strongest character in anime history.
Nobody : *Can he beat Goku tho*
In the zamasu arc he technically couldn’t beat goku. Not even goku stands a chance when faced with goku
Goku ain't even the strongest in his own show lmao
@@daizenmarcurio 😂😂
Nah iam a goku fan and i know there's plenty character's that beat goku a** in a second
Kakarot is the strongest character in anime history
Biggest fucking lie
Hes not even top 10 in his anime rn
"I preferred kamehameha than shinzou sasageyo"
-Random millennial guy
Kamehameha is iconic.
@@shahaansalman3286
Kaaa..meee..haaa..mee....HAAAAA
Somehow it's debatable
Even though I like aot more
Can agree that Kamehameha is legendary just cause it's old
And
Shinzou sasegyo is relatable till S3 then it's not
So the match goes to goku
Shinzou sasageyo sucks
@@mathieul4303 ok
He forgot to mention the part where the MC literally turned into a weeping simp towards the end of the series, that wouldn't ended the debate right there
That outro song reminds everyone why DBZ is the greatest ever, especially in terms of nostalgia! I still remember how amazed I was at the SSJ3 transformation power up!
Did you miss the video my guy
He was literally saying how it is not the best anime ever 💀
@@Luke-tt6dw its just his opninion lol
"everyone"?
The song always reminds me of a kid named Jalen trying to turn into a Super Saiyan.
When arguing with anyone on Twitter: 2:00
-Can he beat Goku?
-No.
-You've activated my trap card.
Even Yamcha can beat Founding Titan Eren easily
@@kingdom1872 and nobody cares. also he can't.
@@idontusecolgateit’s not that deep brother 😪
@@omegaoliv3141 tell that to dragon ball fans💀
@@idontusecolgateHe can clown. Yamcha is a planet buster so he claps the fodder Founding Titan
It will always be the best to me. DBZ is probably the biggest reason I even like anime today, and it still entertains me, which most shows from my childhood don't. I've seen so many good anime from other genres now, but DBZ just hits different.
Dragon Ball reminds us of the good old days, when we were young and carefree. SNK is depressing.
Snk?
@@henrymarks1632 Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan
@@henrymarks1632 shingeki no kyogin, its attack on titan in japanese (exept i prob butchared the spelling)
AOT needs to end already. Gonna watch it for the first time when the series is over and binge through it all next year if they wrap up the anime
Have you read punpun?
i love how all the “bad” things he pointed out in Dragon Ball can genuinely be found it lots of other anime, not even just shonen, like almost every category lmao. not trying to say it’s not valid just brining light to it
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The problem is dbs is a culprit to all these issue all at once
I mean he never said those things didn't exist elsewhere. But they do form the basis for why DBZ is not the best
The best parenting was in HxH
My boy ging gets the best parenting award
@@zenith5048 predictable plot is something ingrained in shounen, so dbz having some isn’t a problem and even then, it’s a pretty unpredictable show considering it’s age.
Pacing problems is also a problem ingrained in shounen, even shows that people consider peak fiction like one piece and hxh have pacing problems. Let’s also not forget that for dragon balls case, the pacing problem doesn’t really exist since even the filler is enjoyable for most people. Pikkon and turles are still super people characters in dragon ball and broly and gogeta were so popular that they eventually became canon, you don’t get that in most shounen.
I grew up watching this on VHS tapes I borrowed from my friend. And then I remember waiting for the new season to come out. It was a childhood experience. That's what made DBZ amazing. Yes it was flawed but that's 99% of entertainment. Just enjoy the show.
Plus, you have to love the thing that inspired DBZ: Abridged.
2:53 man this theme😌! Definitely there are some flaws about dbs ,but reason it so touchy bcz it have some innocence that keeps everyone alive! It's bcz of that Gokus innocent childish Ness!
Can you name the music please?
@@pj6130 Super Saiyan 3 theme
DBZ might be a series with numerous problems but let's be real for alot of kids who grew up with it, it taught alot of us life lessons that we'll always take with us for the rest of our lives. Also for alot of us DBZ was the first show we ever watched with stakes lol
How to be an ass hole, you can beat the bad guy into being humble if you jump him?, have faith enough in your 13yro son to save the world because you didnt plan on the main villain being that strong. I love DBZ but for the life lessons you might as well just watch one piece.
like what???? the main character is obsessed with fighting to the point of insanity, a pickle raised his son better than him. The entire plot of the show comes down to goku nearly getting beat up then powering up for 1000 episodes
If you look at dbz critically NOW that your older at least half of the show contains nothing of substance philosophically. Nothing wrong with that but dont make it seem like it was ahead of there time in terms of characterization, plot development, deeper themes and thought provoking discussions. All of that came from vegeta and trunks. Everyone else plateaued in development...
actually yea i joined karate just soo i can fight people legally :)
@@emmanuelalagbala9590 stop watching tfs, that shit is not the actual show
1:52 I like how he just stands there smiling like he finished taking a shat 0_0
If dbz fan was a judge:
Criminal: I'm innocent!
Judge: But can you beat Goku?
Criminal: What...?
Judge: I knew it... I find you guilty!!!
Go back sticking to Donald Trump & Tobey Maguire memes
All those chokes and screams were what made the shit seem so real to me as a kid. Theres no replicating it😂
BRO THIS IS HILARIOUS! Dbz is one of my favorites but THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING, BUT CAN HE BEAT GOKU?! ABOUT ANY OTHER MC! 1:36 PERFECT
DBZ may not be the best anime, but it is certainly the one that will stick with us the most.
Honestly want it to be erased from my memory considering how bad it gets at times with the characters being the same
@@Artistofprocedure no u don't
Anyone who has a problem with DragonBall please meet me outside so I can kick your ass.
BULLSHIT
💯
Many DB fans ask "Can he beat Goku though"
And let me tell you something else.....
_I'm among those fans_
oh no
Same
*great Rimuru has entered the chat*
@@AscenderGrey66 😐
I mean lelouch could probly beat goku but I know giornos G.E.R could
Other animes:actual transformation that change their overall design
Dbz:haha make shitting pose for 3 seconds and change your hair color now 900000+ power buff
Dragonball is Love, Dragonball is Live.
“I know what your problem is, you’ve probably watched dragonball Kai” I almost pissed myself
Dragon Ball Z was broadcasted to almost every corner on this planet due to the reach of TV networks in many countries.
The fact that Internet is private and also accessing a legal website is private and has a fee, anime nowadays simply does not have the impact on the GENERAL population like in the past.
You see, Dragon Ball Z is not a weeb or Otaku thing, it's pop culture in several countries...
dude noone pays for anime. There are tons of sites with free anime(both sub and dub uncensored)
@@techy3157 I was talking about DBZ in the 90s from an International perspective...
@@techy3157 Anime in the 80s and 90s. Anime is highly filtered back then. Only the most popular ones get to be seen on international tv. And that is Dragonball or Doraemon.
@@techy3157 gratz, u have mastered ultra ignorant
@@techy3157 I… I pay for anime….
0:55 brooo u got me crackin up at 3am😂💀
It may be nostalgia, but DBZ is classic/legendary, it was the foundation for so many animes, so of course it has flaws - it was one of the first and all the new animes can learn from it and be better (in fact the new animes should be better, they had all these years to improve writing, plot development, pacing etc). It's like comparing Atari and PS5 and saying PS5 is better than Atari - well no shit lol, time has changed and improved. That being said, I still enjoy watching DBZ today, and ya DBZ power level is still untouchable.... which means it's the best anime lololol
Ironically, plenty of animes surpass DB's power level (The most famous example probably being Gurren Laggann)
And don't forget Cowboy Bebop in all this, IIRC it too was influential, right alongside Dragon Ball I think.
@@HOLDENPOPE That's not the point and I am sure he was joking bout the last line or maybe u are and I am making a fool out of myself
Considering it actually inspired so much mangakas and the global influence it had around the globe, I don't think it's purely nostalgia to admit it's a classic, just fax.
I mean yeah, I agree, it's an important part of anime history but to say it's the best anime ever is just profoundly stupid.
@@HOLDENPOPE Plenty? Plenty you say yet you just gave one anime example. Yet people use DragonBall as the bench mark of things when it comes to power levels and anime battles.
1:27 thats all i needed fr 😎
I love dragon ball z, one of my favorite anime’s but there’s no way I’d say it’s the best anime, however I’d definitely argue it’s one of the most important anime’s
@@vaporsaint9044 there not really a best anime but aot is better, naruto is better, hunter x hunter is better, etc
@@vaporsaint9044 just because they're over powered and they can unlock every color in the rainbow doesn't make it the best anime
@@kenality5630 opinion. Theres no way to prove any show is better than the other. Its subjective
@@kenality5630 isnt dbs fighting focused not story focused, so of course their story would be focused
@@skittles664 exactly its all about those 2 frame animated fist fights (the fights are epic ngl but like you know those certain scenes im talking about) also you can't say that an anime about only fighting with no real purpose is the best. i love dragon ball but there are anime with great fights and story/writing that make them better
YOOO! ULTRA GOOSEBUMPS with the outro music. Memories man damnn.
DB will always have special place in my heart. I would never compare dB with any other anime. There are anime’s with better plots storyline or animation but dB is a special feel.
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You want to know what's crazy. dragon ball fans today probably ain't even heard that theme song before
There's no "Predictable Cliches" DB was way back in the 80's, it's a certified OG from which cliches are created from as the standard for new gen anime!...
I'd like to see someone saying "yeah, majin buu blowing up earth and killing everyone on it was predictable
DB is heavily inspired by "A Journey to the West" which has the common "traveler travels with other travelers and sometimes gets into conflict" cliche. Even the screaming could be a reference to Jojo. DB (Not Z or SUper) manga started around the same time as Jojo Phantom Blood Manga, and that had a lot of screaming. It's safe to say that was what inspired the screaming during fighting thing in anime. Or maybe the Super Sentai Franchise (which I believe started in the 60s) "Main Character wanting to be..." was also very common.
@@goldenpersonwhoexists8834 Actually you are very wrong, Araki himself admits that he's influenced by Toriyama. part 3 DIO is literally a reference to Super Saiyan with the aura and hair.
@@bigenson18 Wait till you learn that two stories can reference each other :O
It has lots of unpredictable events:-
1)Goku being an alien(saiyan)
2) mysterious discovery of another time machine identical to trunks's/ introduction of cell(some mysterious being emerged from trunks's own time machine and emerged from cacoon who's sucking people out of life
3) learning that db's were made by some alien race which all this time we thought to originate from earth
4)ssj3
5)bulma having a sister
6) bulma knowing Jaco from childhood
7) Vegeta self sacrifice
8) in dbs, most theories about ending of t.o.p, ending of Goku black arc all were wrong
In my head I can still remember atleast 10 more casual moments which were unexpected plot twists, ofc there are parts that are predictable, but i think the unpredictable part are too unpredictable and amazing so it surpasses the predictable parts
“Literally every shonen is inspired by it..”
Fist of the North Star: Am I a joke to you?!
MAAAAN. EXACTLY!!!!
Which anime is that💀💀💀💀💀💀
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Wtf is a North Star
Well Dragon Ball is definitely among the greatest ones
Toriyama has influenced many writers and it's no joke
Influence don't make a show good
@@kyubi_9405 Last time I remember, people don't get influenced by bad shows
@@kyubi_9405 things that people consider influential tend to be good. Not an anime reference but it’s like how MJ Kobe and Lebron have influenced many young players in the nba today to love the game and make it to the pros
@@HeheheheOk DAYUM!!
Idk why so many people throw this out like its valid just to try to defend a show for no reason. Its not like dbz is down in popularity and noones talking about it so they gotta make it seem good. Its actually kinda the opposite but we're getting into opinion territory ig.
2:10 thats vegeta technique
“Yamcha” nah you wrong for that 😂
Dragon ball has the loyal fandom I am so proud.
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