We Get Spooked At A WW2 Airfield

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  • @JanetBrown-px2jn
    @JanetBrown-px2jn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I found this video very interesting,and thank you,I was born in 1944,and married an American 23 years older than myself, he was Infantry first division,second wave on the Normandy beaches,he was in England twice,in North Africa,and Sicily,and across Europe to Czech Republic.So I heard a great deal about WW11,and thank you for teaching your grand children about something that should never be forgotten.😊

  • @johngriffin9476
    @johngriffin9476 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    These men was very brave what they went through we have a lot to be great full for thanks for taking us with very enjoyable

    • @MayfairCarpenter
      @MayfairCarpenter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually they committed war crimes

    • @johngriffin9476
      @johngriffin9476 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MayfairCarpenter what in war what are you talking about ❓

    • @Irene-xs9pc
      @Irene-xs9pc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MayfairCarpenterall those lives lost to give the likes of you and I to live in peace ✌🏾, what the heck are you running your mouth about 🤬if you have nothing positive to write about don’t be hiding behind your keyboard writing nonsense. IT WAS A BLOODY WAR.

    • @acheface
      @acheface 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nice try troll. ​@@MayfairCarpenter

    • @Angel-002
      @Angel-002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MayfairCarpenter I think what you meant to say was, if it wasn't for the brave men & women back then, we wouldn't be here living the lives we do! Thank goodness for all they did for us & our country. There you go, fixed it for you & bet you feel so much better for it now. Especially as you're getting all this attention you so obviously crave. Never Forget

  • @fibutton7361
    @fibutton7361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a fantastic and informative video, thank you so much for sharing. I hope these places survive for another 80 years, our history needs preserving! Happy St Georges Day tomorrow folks! x

  • @joycehaddon3615
    @joycehaddon3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow what a wonderful reminder of our English history. Thank you both so much. xx

  • @mickyboy6673
    @mickyboy6673 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another brilliant and informative video, thanks guys. My grandfather was an RAF wireless operator in WWII so was nice to see more or less his workspace, incredible.

  • @maryfinch1670
    @maryfinch1670 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Went to Metheringham museum last year.
    We sat at the controls of the Dakota. The volunteers are so friendly.

  • @joannelass42
    @joannelass42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lovely Evie and Harry you can just see the love they have for both of you. Lovely to see 🤗

  • @debbiefuller201
    @debbiefuller201 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You did a fantastic job updating the table Sharon - it looks great now. You are so talented and have great ideas, well done x

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much 😊

  • @PAM-ud9lv
    @PAM-ud9lv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh Sharon what a brilliant job you are doing with the decorating. The blinds look fantastic. The colours you are using are fab and what a lovely job with the little table. The old airfield was a bit spooky. Take care

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much 😊

  • @Marigoldblu
    @Marigoldblu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a lovely visit to the airfield. My Dad would have loved it if he was still here. He was in the Navy but still saw aircraft, but he was in Korea and saw action. Thank you both lovely people, another great video. xx

  • @stuartboy6227
    @stuartboy6227 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant video thanks Martin and Sharon love these history places

  • @karentoynton8948
    @karentoynton8948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes my mum used to,out a bag of rusty nails in the ground by her hydrangea to change the soil acidity. Iron sulphate helps as we.. the airfield was very interesting thank you for sharing with us.

  • @lindabrand5144
    @lindabrand5144 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely colours on your table and a great job done Sharon. Very interesting visit to see the aircrafts and your all sitting in the cockpit well worth the money to see .

  • @judepicton6252
    @judepicton6252 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant day out ,thankyou so much,had a lovely time learning more,about where my parents retired to.really appreciate it.

  • @roseylass9824
    @roseylass9824 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done Sharon the table is totally modernised and looks like a different table thanks to Al your hard work 👊💐x Rosey

  • @BeachLover126
    @BeachLover126 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Sharon and Martin, thank you for putting this review on your channel. As my husband and I are regular visitors to Lincolnshire this air base museum is on our visit list for next week. Will stop off at Woodhall Spa and the Bluebell Inn, Tattershall Thorpe, 2 of our go to places. Glad I found your channel, great fun to watch you both and your reviews.

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our pleasure!

    • @BeachLover126
      @BeachLover126 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@butlersempire visited RAF Bressingham today and sat in the Dakota, lovely afternoon visiting the museum, without your channel would never have known about this place

  • @SandraStewart-k4h
    @SandraStewart-k4h 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic vdo Sharon and Martin. Will try visit the airfield center. Very interesting 👍

  • @georgieboy1958
    @georgieboy1958 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great tour thank you

  • @AnitaG1404
    @AnitaG1404 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video, loved the trip to the museum. Great they make it so interactive. Was a lovely memory made with Evie as well. The house is looking really good, outside pavers all clean and back room looks modern, light and bright with those blinds and fresh paint. Lovely outlook to the garden. Doggies have their favourite spots on the sofas ❤

  • @buzz2beee2rs9
    @buzz2beee2rs9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I used your po box today to send Gary and Stacie a little something. I slipped up and classed little Franky as a little brother (well he will be like a little one) Anyway one of the things I sent is for him. Sorry I am no good with tech lol - Coming in 2 parts they said - sorry Buzz2Beee2 Fay

  • @lyndaruff-vg1hw
    @lyndaruff-vg1hw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for another great vlog, so interesting to see what those brave people did! Another informative vlog. Luv you as always 😊

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @craigwignall8450
    @craigwignall8450 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video lets not forget the past brave people well done

  • @mamnan8953
    @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What a beautiful granddaughter you have she looks so much like her mum

  • @AM-qp2wx
    @AM-qp2wx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the airfield tour.....much appreciated! My dad was a bomber pilot with the RAF, & as I am not in the UK I will not ever visit old WWII sites. So again, I appreciate your travel videos. Wonderful of you to take Evie to these places, more grandparents (& parents) should teach youngsters history of this nature, because the schools don't. You & Sharon are wonderful examples of parents & g-parents! Thank you.

  • @Goatanddonkey
    @Goatanddonkey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great museum! Well done !
    A must see..

  • @chrislazarou7491
    @chrislazarou7491 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Decorating looks good, I hate the fact you have to justify things that are a work in progress but people like to have a dig, annoys me, crack on and I'm sure it'll look amazing.
    The airbase was so interesting to have a look around, history that should never be forgotten

  • @sheilagarrido8204
    @sheilagarrido8204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! AMAZING!!!!!!!
    YHANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOLKS❤

  • @lindakearns3565
    @lindakearns3565 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just love that you have settled in Lincolnshire my lovely aunt and uncle lived there for many years just outside Skegness ❤❤❤❤

  • @jmptaz
    @jmptaz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG if those planes could talk wow I love when you guys do these little history travels I will never get to see them in person but looking through your videos makes me so happy

  • @sheilagarrido8204
    @sheilagarrido8204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FASCINATING Guys😮
    I love all the WW2 information that you pass on every now and again😊
    Thank you sooo much Folks❤❤❤❤❤

  • @BrewabitRick
    @BrewabitRick 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved Nick and Norman ,places around here need people promoting, I bet they are volunteers ? Looks like Goofy to me 👍 been to East Kirkby but never that site but I will this summer now absolutely brilliant. The cockpit is incredibly manual and industrial.Sharon “ no air friers “ 😂brilliant 👍👍👍👍🍻another great update as always thanks for promoting a local attraction again 👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes Rick, they are volunteers and a wealth of knowledge as well.

  • @AlisonClaydon
    @AlisonClaydon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the early eighties we took a ride to east Midlands airport where they were doing pleasure flights, we thought we would try it as we'd never flown and we had future plans to go to America, guess what the plane was?, an old passenger Dakota,! Believe me it was no pleasure!!!, your video was amazing and brought back those memories of the day for me, brilliant as ever Martin and Sharon, many thanks lots of love💋❤️x

  • @raymondtompsett-mk3ep
    @raymondtompsett-mk3ep 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed thanks.

  • @karenracher-ch6mt
    @karenracher-ch6mt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lovely video , very interesting and loving the old tunes you play , thanks ❤

  • @catherineloftus1376
    @catherineloftus1376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video and an interesting topic a very hands on venue to visit. Norman was so knowledgeable and kept the subject he was talking about interesting.

  • @alandykes2519
    @alandykes2519 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic Martin and Sharon love places like that just starting to catch up as mum has been in hospital and they have put her on end of life care 👍👍👍👍

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry to hear that Alan.

  • @lindam4308
    @lindam4308 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was Absolutely Amazing thank youse. Sharon table gonna look amazing 👌

  • @janicehartley8525
    @janicehartley8525 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow what a great video guys. Love history like this. Thanks guys ❤

  • @MattTaylorClark
    @MattTaylorClark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This actually made me surprisingly emotional, what a wonderfully shot edited video, thank you 🙏🏻. 💙

  • @lindaroberts2508
    @lindaroberts2508 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the blog, beautiful family, keep the blogs coming. ❤❤❤

  • @jennifermharvey9882
    @jennifermharvey9882 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fabulous

  • @tonymccarthy9273
    @tonymccarthy9273 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thanks marttin and Sharon, im an old aircraft and modeller of aircraft, very interesting,

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @ninashowler0417
    @ninashowler0417 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Coming up to Lincolnshire tomorrow to see my daughter she lives at Witham at Hughes but suggested the ragged apron but it's closed Mondays 😢

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes it is shut Nina, that's a shame.

  • @kathryng6363
    @kathryng6363 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Found it really interesting inside that plane. My dad was a radio operator and had to use Morse code and shorthand. He was only 20yrs old at the time. Didn't talk much about it afterwards though. Pity, I would have liked to have learnt more about it.

    • @mamnan8953
      @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My dad too was a radio operator

  • @98Blackbess
    @98Blackbess 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Martin, have you visited the Coleby Grange control tower, just down the road from Metheringham ? Admittedly, It is fenced off and now part of the farmers field but the fence is broken down in a number of places and it is certainly worth a visit. I have visited it on numerous occasions while visiting relatives in Lincoln and each time, i have experienced things that i cannot explain. One instance, my other half and i were walking around inside it and i got a very overpowering sense that we were not alone and then a piece of glass, roughly the size of a thumb nail, landed by my feet. Where the hell did that come from ? There are no windows or glass left in the derelict building. Each time i visit, i end up with a stonking headache too which suddenly goes as quickly as it came.

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never been there.

  • @robertbarnier45
    @robertbarnier45 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sharon’s the queen of grey. Everything looking good. Aussie Bob ❤

  • @PaulaParker-oh7qe
    @PaulaParker-oh7qe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this video. It was fascinating. It reminds us how very brave our military were during WW2. 🙏

  • @mariajohnson6400
    @mariajohnson6400 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤ definitely worth a visit

  • @stevenwest3555
    @stevenwest3555 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    On the subject of WW2 , it was the Austrian painter’s birthday yesterday.

    • @chuckb624
      @chuckb624 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      \o

  • @sheilagarrido8204
    @sheilagarrido8204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL DOGGIES
    WE ALL LOVE THEM❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @maureen1506
    @maureen1506 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great video absolutely loved the museum - beautiful music to accompany the visit too😊

  • @jackiesmithsmetaldetecting
    @jackiesmithsmetaldetecting 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Nana ( Grandma) worked where they made the wings for the Lancaster bomber during the war, while Grandad was in Burma

  • @paula-di8fw
    @paula-di8fw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have lovely hydranges in my Garden. Pink and blue.. i Put White vineger in the soil.. helps Changes the colour. Love your Videos and Family 😊

  • @chrisfrob
    @chrisfrob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video on the aviation museum, I'm biased 'cause I love all things aviation. Sharon......it's so good to see how you transformed that table. I have exactly the same style furniture, all made of solid wood but would really like to freshen it up the same way as you have. Keep the deco vids coming....they're really, really good to watch. 🤓👍

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mamnan8953
    @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sharon you are amazing you're very talented

  • @annashear7331
    @annashear7331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an amazing video loved every minute of it thank you

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @LeeJohn70
    @LeeJohn70 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video as always. Love the Air Base attraction. Such a shame since WW2 the world is still in a mess, if only politicians dine what we pay them to do. I must say Sharon is doing a great job with the furniture painting. The 2 gorgeous boys Dougall and Merlin are overseeing the works 👍👍😁😎

  • @DavidDunning-g6s
    @DavidDunning-g6s 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Martin Sharon love your blinds house looks lovelly take care❤😂

  • @christinehodge3608
    @christinehodge3608 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good and interesting video, enjoyed this, thanks for sharing 😊

  • @junescully2925
    @junescully2925 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have done it again guys another really lovely video well done xx

  • @jennifermharvey9882
    @jennifermharvey9882 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Martin have you ever to DUXFORD ? Look it up

  • @JoanneMarshall-d5q
    @JoanneMarshall-d5q 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your blinds look very nice and I enjoyed the rest of the vlogg

  • @sallychandler7859
    @sallychandler7859 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very moving vlog. Those brave, brave men 😢

  • @triciawhite8119
    @triciawhite8119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video. Thank you 😊

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @glenysgray8255
    @glenysgray8255 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rude to tell you your ceiling needs doing ! I do DIY and my back is bad so it takes longer than when I was younger. Doing my hall and stairs at the moment and my grey walls are looking blue grey !! Not what it looks like on the tin. You are doing a great job Sharon x

  • @susancane-w1w
    @susancane-w1w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Me and my hubby have loved watching you , your so funny and I love the poochs, your house is lovely and big , and Sharon your doing a good job it’s really nice colour carry on what your doing, you will get there with all your decorating , it takes Time ❤ we’ve been to wood-hall spar twice on the 1940s, but sad it’s not on this year xx❤❤

    • @susancane-w1w
      @susancane-w1w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My hubby it’s into both ww1 and ww2 you wouldn’t believe what he’s got ❤️

  • @wildwolf2567
    @wildwolf2567 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video both. You are working your way through your decorating at a normal pace like normal people . Love all the historical stuff, must be remembered forever. Your pooches are so well behaved. Thank you both.

  • @waynegudgeon5291
    @waynegudgeon5291 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video looks amazing Martin mate keep up the hard work up mate

  • @carolpageler8124
    @carolpageler8124 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video of the base.

  • @SuperJono42
    @SuperJono42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the st220 martin....you got a lovely car there.....great colour too

  • @krhodes2114
    @krhodes2114 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video guys

  • @Christine-il8nm
    @Christine-il8nm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved the video thankyou .

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’re welcome 😊

  • @wendyleader8905
    @wendyleader8905 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed this video

  • @kathleendeason2486
    @kathleendeason2486 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did you get coffee machine and frother

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a link in the video description

  • @helenwilliamson7099
    @helenwilliamson7099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done Sharon that table looks great ❤❤👍

  • @towerpower6867
    @towerpower6867 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks lovely. Could you say a prayer to my mum dee who's not very well.

    • @mamnan8953
      @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sending healing vibes to your mum and the strength to cope bless her ❤

    • @butlersempire
      @butlersempire  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We are sending our love to Dee.

    • @towerpower6867
      @towerpower6867 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@butlersempirethank u

  • @buzz2beee2rs9
    @buzz2beee2rs9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That was good. I ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT THE BOMBS WERE FLAT PEBBLE SHAPED, OR JUST ROUND. (SORRY CAP LOCKS) Such very helpful people there and very knowledgeable.

    • @mamnan8953
      @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This bomb was a unique shape compared to the others to make it bounce on water. It destroyed a huge dam.and many people died

    • @buzz2beee2rs9
      @buzz2beee2rs9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mamnan8953 I remember from the Dam Busters film. Thank you, good to know why. 😁

    • @MayfairCarpenter
      @MayfairCarpenter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first casualty of war is the truth

  • @davidtsekiri-pp7yz
    @davidtsekiri-pp7yz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant vlog ❤

  • @terrychorley3045
    @terrychorley3045 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello you two,looks really interesting there

  • @helenring9424
    @helenring9424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vlog guys

  • @lindakearns3565
    @lindakearns3565 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the way Martin calls u baby my Husband calls me that from when I started going out with him many years ago we have been married 50 years in September 14th this year i just thought its a liverpool saying 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤

  • @dnmorgan1969
    @dnmorgan1969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Triplex Cooker must've been the current day Ninja Foodi Pro! Lol😂

  • @lesleyhawkes2983
    @lesleyhawkes2983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The room looks really nice

  • @MargaretSanderson-n7r
    @MargaretSanderson-n7r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job with the table 😍

  • @CockneyInCumbria
    @CockneyInCumbria 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Let’s hope the Government don’t start putting the migrants in that place Martin

  • @annestewart3764
    @annestewart3764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting

  • @acheface
    @acheface 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did 12 years in the RAF. Pretty much every unit I was posted to had at least one ghost or ghost story. There were some areas where the RAF police dogs would either indicate or refuse to go near.

  • @epcode5121
    @epcode5121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watch out Retrorestore.. there's a new kid on the block doing amazing restore work 😊🙏

  • @GerRafferty
    @GerRafferty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video nice work on table😊❤

  • @mamnan8953
    @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My parents were in WW2 and I'm ashamed to say that the little my parents talked about it I wasn't interested. I feel so bad now because I find it interesting

    • @MayfairCarpenter
      @MayfairCarpenter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They knew we fought on the wrong side

    • @mamnan8953
      @mamnan8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MayfairCarpenter Excuse me ????

  • @janecox4173
    @janecox4173 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh how lovely is nick !

  • @mazingmumma1
    @mazingmumma1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No air fryers that made me laugh ...... Martin have you got the gift😂😂😂😂

  • @ilovegingers4ever
    @ilovegingers4ever 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting place that was Thankyou for taking us with you . Loving what Sharon is doing with the table too it’s looking really nice . Love it 🥰❤

  • @starperry1784
    @starperry1784 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very very interesting xxx

  • @davidmackenzie5971
    @davidmackenzie5971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you throught about getting a stump grinder for your stumps 🤔

  • @helenwilliamson7099
    @helenwilliamson7099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was so interesting x❤

  • @youngdizzgb
    @youngdizzgb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can not believe you sanded inside with new blinds up a throw the mats out jimmy wont want them lol

  • @lisalewis8989
    @lisalewis8989 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should come to Duxford x

  • @bigteno4597
    @bigteno4597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the best videos you guys have made imo! Thank you xx

  • @davesandall4530
    @davesandall4530 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Scary to think the pilots and crew of those planes weren't that much older than Evie