I have always thought an array with 3 panels arranged 45 degrees apart with the middle panel facing south would be the most productive so the outside panels could face in or out I think in would capture more because of reflection.
The real advantage from east west panels comes from potential solar windows, aka if morning and evening are clear but midday is overcast, they will outperform the N/S panel. In cold/snowy climates, you might only have one hour of clear sky and you really need to get as much power from it as possible
How about a vertically mounted bifacial panel that rotates on the vertical axis to follow the sun? And what about a mirror mounted behind it, at various distances? I feel like these would perform best with a cylindrical shape, half mirror half solar panel, having a conical deformation applied to the mirror half to let in light from the sky dome. (cylinder with circle bottom and elipse top)
Lots of good info but may have liked more details on the peek temp of the solar panel during the full sun and what the max temp reached were. Wonder if any added reflection of a white tarp or other surface may have added to the overall heat on the panels.
Rely tight test, but we have to two things to consider. 1: It's fall time. 2: you live in the great Canada. solar panels are gonna be better at the N/S configuration. so you got more power, but not a lot. Plus they are running a few degrees cold. that realy good. Tanks for the test.
Great test. Would not mind seeing a video with one panel correctly pointing at the sun and tracking it. Curious to see the output of one as I am in the process of buying some. Have not decided on bi-facial as we get frequent hail storms throughout the year and don't know how well they would with stand one seeing that they are fragile. Great video by the way.
From what I've seen, bifacial are usually stronger than other types of panels, but may depend on brand.
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I wonder if you could do a panel with the alignment being so the Sun passes over in the same angle as the panel with a white sheet of something on the ground on both sides.. Some people say this optimizes the bi-facial construction while others say it is worse than when the main face is tilted towards the sun..
I cant hardly wait till I can build a fence with panels I have no buildings or fences to deal with summer I would start getting direct light at like 6 am and my fist part would see so much sun all day like 150ft of fence 150 degree heading sse to nnw :)
Great job, thanks for sharing. I'm a little curious on reflective materials test results, white quartz rock background, vs. Maybe some cheapo door mirrors vs. Just grass, vs. White tarp or white painted surface?
So, what about two panels facing E/W, opposite each other? The Bifacials aren't supposed to be the same efficiency for both sides, are they? If nothing else, they have the backside of the frame creating shade on them, which will affect them to some extent. Then you can compare on another day to the same figures, and can even separate the amount each one produces depending on directions. You can then compare that to SW/SE/S facing directions for both panels. In an array, you would probably wire each face on a separate line anyway.
Can you test a vertical vs horizontal facing the same direction? Thinking of installing some horizontal in my backyard along the shorter face side (only 6ft high, so vertical stands above the fence). Thanks.
Thinking that this will increase solar output production. 1) change the orientation of the North/South so that the height side is actually parallel with the ground. 2) on both sides of the panels a little away, put some reflective insulation orientated to direct more sunlight onto the solar. 3). Use of the reflective insulation will absorb the heat from the captured sunlight and is fairly cheap. 4) raising them higher off the ground as you have way too many shadows. I don't have any shadows in my yard, so being low would be great with a gap below to allow better wind flow. I live in Florida so I should see better solar production than you my fellow Canadian. Thanks for showing the North/South orientation, as I haven't heard about it. I am actually in the process of building a solar generator system with a 2000 Watt inverter and a 12 volt 200ah battery. Since the last hurricane cost me close to $100 in food that was lost. Was just going to get a generator, but after seeing gas run I changed my mind and just an electric generator would also be out as during the last big one I was out of power for close to 2 weeks
My question is whether you plan to replace your wood fence with a solar panel one? I’m intrigued by doing that since my house has way too many gables to power 100% of my house. Curious too of you were to “fence” your whole yard with solar how much would it cost?
thanks. If you were to mount as many panels to the fence as would fit how much would it cost and how much energy do you think you could do on average?
Thank you for addressing the wires!
I have always thought an array with 3 panels arranged 45 degrees apart with the middle panel facing south would be the most productive so the outside panels could face in or out I think in would capture more because of reflection.
The real advantage from east west panels comes from potential solar windows, aka if morning and evening are clear but midday is overcast, they will outperform the N/S panel. In cold/snowy climates, you might only have one hour of clear sky and you really need to get as much power from it as possible
How about a vertically mounted bifacial panel that rotates on the vertical axis to follow the sun? And what about a mirror mounted behind it, at various distances? I feel like these would perform best with a cylindrical shape, half mirror half solar panel, having a conical deformation applied to the mirror half to let in light from the sky dome. (cylinder with circle bottom and elipse top)
there's a fb group a guy did this I think it was 270 degrees of rotation and his points n/s
Lots of good info but may have liked more details on the peek temp of the solar panel during the full sun and what the max temp reached were. Wonder if any added reflection of a white tarp or other surface may have added to the overall heat on the panels.
Coming from rudan brothers. Seen u there. Much love from Germany ✌️
Nice! They are definitely cooler that way
I had read somewhere, that SE/SW and 80 degrees vertical, works at least around 32 latitude or so.
Rely tight test, but we have to two things to consider.
1: It's fall time.
2: you live in the great Canada.
solar panels are gonna be better at the N/S configuration. so you got more power, but not a lot.
Plus they are running a few degrees cold. that realy good.
Tanks for the test.
Excellent work on the test
Great test. Would not mind seeing a video with one panel correctly pointing at the sun and tracking it. Curious to see the output of one as I am in the process of buying some. Have not decided on bi-facial as we get frequent hail storms throughout the year and don't know how well they would with stand one seeing that they are fragile. Great video by the way.
From what I've seen, bifacial are usually stronger than other types of panels, but may depend on brand.
I wonder if you could do a panel with the alignment being so the Sun passes over in the same angle as the panel with a white sheet of something on the ground on both sides.. Some people say this optimizes the bi-facial construction while others say it is worse than when the main face is tilted towards the sun..
I cant hardly wait till I can build a fence with panels I have no buildings or fences to deal with summer I would start getting direct light at like 6 am and my fist part would see so much sun all day like 150ft of fence 150 degree heading sse to nnw :)
Great job, thanks for sharing. I'm a little curious on reflective materials test results, white quartz rock background, vs. Maybe some cheapo door mirrors vs. Just grass, vs. White tarp or white painted surface?
So, what about two panels facing E/W, opposite each other? The Bifacials aren't supposed to be the same efficiency for both sides, are they?
If nothing else, they have the backside of the frame creating shade on them, which will affect them to some extent.
Then you can compare on another day to the same figures, and can even separate the amount each one produces depending on directions.
You can then compare that to SW/SE/S facing directions for both panels.
In an array, you would probably wire each face on a separate line anyway.
Can you test a vertical vs horizontal facing the same direction? Thinking of installing some horizontal in my backyard along the shorter face side (only 6ft high, so vertical stands above the fence). Thanks.
Thinking that this will increase solar output production.
1) change the orientation of the North/South so that the height side is actually parallel with the ground.
2) on both sides of the panels a little away, put some reflective insulation orientated to direct more sunlight onto the solar.
3). Use of the reflective insulation will absorb the heat from the captured sunlight and is fairly cheap.
4) raising them higher off the ground as you have way too many shadows.
I don't have any shadows in my yard, so being low would be great with a gap below to allow better wind flow. I live in Florida so I should see better solar production than you my fellow Canadian.
Thanks for showing the North/South orientation, as I haven't heard about it. I am actually in the process of building a solar generator system with a 2000 Watt inverter and a 12 volt 200ah battery. Since the last hurricane cost me close to $100 in food that was lost. Was just going to get a generator, but after seeing gas run I changed my mind and just an electric generator would also be out as during the last big one I was out of power for close to 2 weeks
My question is whether you plan to replace your wood fence with a solar panel one? I’m intrigued by doing that since my house has way too many gables to power 100% of my house. Curious too of you were to “fence” your whole yard with solar how much would it cost?
@@juustjoshin I won't be replacing the fence but I will probably mount 4 or 5 panels on it before winter
thanks. If you were to mount as many panels to the fence as would fit how much would it cost and how much energy do you think you could do on average?
@@juustjoshin I'm not sure, I'd have it measure it out and crunch the numbers
@@SmitHVAC. that’s be a cool video. I haven’t seen much out there for how a “fence” might compare to a roof install in terms of cost and power
Thx u
kWh charge will be much more informative. Good job.
Question about the sponsor, is the version 2 thermal camera not available in US yet!?
I just asked them. I'll let you know
I can see this working better in winter.
You would not have to clean the snow off.
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Shadowland garden, you need to do the test in an open field to test the panel and not your shading :)