i said this when i first started playing SOT Lmao ; i didnt even know htis was a refrence at the time ; grew up on monkey island ; when this song started playing was such a nostalgia hit for me
"I, Captain Hector Barbossa, have followed Jack over the seven seas, through this world and the next, only to stumble over this....this....Threepwood. And in less than an hour my ship was on the bottom of the ocean.....(sigh) Guybrush Threepwood."
So Guybrush actually survived being marooned with Elaine in the cannon for this. I wonder if that means LeChuck and Big Whoop are the focus of the next big update. id love if you could visit Mele island ect in the next update...
@@Johannes00 i be a gay butt pirate n be looking for some semen to fill me poop deck yar har har black beard gave himself syphilis from putting an old needle in his penis every time he had captives to freak them out
The whole feel of the first tale of Pirate's Life was already about nostalgia, the Cursed Captain telling you of how great his time had been with his crew in that lil' shelter they built in the Sea of the Damned. When I found this easter egg and the music started playing it brought tears to my eyes
Man... 1 year ago I had no idea what monkey island was when I stumbled across this easter egg in game, and this theme compelled me to look it up, and so I bought The Curse of Monkey Island thinking it was the first game LMAO. Here I am a year later and Monkey Island is probably my favorite video game franchise. Thank you op for uploading this bc this video is the reason why I got into these games.
@@megatacka For the sake of privacy I won’t give out a year, but I was born in the 2000s. The funny thing is, none of my friends have heard of the games, but all of their dads remember.
There have been two achievements referencing that Monkey Island segment since day one! :D “You Fight Like A Merchant” and “How Appropriate! You Fight Like A Chicken”
It's a game of long odds... unless you have an unbreakable five game deal with Lucasarts. Or unless you're a lovably inept cartoon character with potential for a few more sequels.
There's a monkey in my pocket And I thank you from my heart This made our day so much better Truly brilliant work of art Let's all hope that it's a teaser Let's hope it's around the bend Hope the stories will continue Just... never let it end.
I’m 14 and I’ve been to Disney world (in Florida, but I live in Canada so it’s pretty far) 10 times or so, meaning I’ve been going there since a very young age. Something about this song gave me a bunch of nostalgia from being there. Every condo I stayed at had either speakers or an actual player playing steel drum music and it sounded a lot like this. The Pirate’s Life update to sea of thieves is the greatest update to any game of all time, quote me on that. Don’t even get me started on how beautifully accurate they got the 3rd or 4th quest to the actual ride in magic kingdom. I’ve been on that thing at least 10 times and they got that stuff near spot on.
I tried to make my avatar, weapons, pet and ship parts adjusted as good as I could to guybrush, but these trousers... their pockets can't even fit a damn key! How am I supposed to even fit a whole dog inside?!
Wait... so there’s a universe where Monkey Island and Pirates of the Caribbean meet. Lol. Which is hilarious because both are inspired by On Stranger Tides and POTC was made from a recycled Mikey Island script.
Actually POTC was before Monkey Island. Monkey Island took inspiration from the ride Pirates of the Caribbean - like the dog being named Walt in MI2 etc.
Y'know I hardly knew monkey island, however the moment I saw the name of the legendary pirate, I couldn't stop thinkin' about it ever since. Threepwood has got to be the best pirate, amongst many other legends
Rare just announced Monkey Island crossover for Sea of Thieves in Xbox Showcase. I always had a hunch they would be doing that next after hearing this easter egg.
*SPIT TAKE* WHAT!? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MONKEY ISLAND IS!? *passes out* It's like one of the best point and click adventure games ever! It's crammed so full of references out of the wazoo like BTTF, Disney etc
It sounds like the 'indoors' version of the Monkey Island theme. If you are familiar with the Skylanders Giants soundtrack you will understand what I mean.
Ya know, I'm starting to wonder if we'll see more from both Monkey Island and Pirates of the Caribbean in Sea of Thieves. I'm personally curious to see a potential reference or even appearance of Guybrush, Elaine, Murray, and perhaps even LeChuck himself. As for the Pirates of the Caribbean side of things, well, while it would be cool to see more characters from the films (such as Barbossa), I want to see a villain that never made his appearance in the films, but was certainly a cursed pirate that could even give LeChuck and Graymarrow a run for their money: Jolly Roger, from the Pirates of the Caribbean Online game. It really makes you wonder, since the Dark Brethren have the Warsmith, Duke, the Gold Hoarder and Davy Jones, as well as the mysterious "Cap'n", Flameheart and his son are going to need their own special forces. Granted, they tried and failed to fully bring Graymarrow back from the grave, but they could recruit the likes of LeChuck and Jolly Roger, two heavyweights among pirates who specialize in dark powers, and could possess the ability to fully raise Graymarrow back from the dead instead of summoning a mere imprint of his soul.
@@buasfe6986 I haven't played it yet but I was beyond thrilled and hyped when I saw the trailer. Rare did a wonderfully fantastic job bringing the world of Monkey Island to life in the Sea of Thieves, and they certainly have an eye for the finer details; the shifting pattern on Stan's jacket alone is testament to that! Guybrush looks as fantastic and derpy as ever, albeit with more facial hair than what he had in Tales of Monkey Island. Though it's understandable, given how one of the Pirate Lords mentions that he hasn't set foot out of the mansion for almost a year, and how the Voodoo Lady says that LeChuck has turned the memories of this island into a prison for Guybrush. And speaking of that wonderful rotting husk, once again, Rare did an amazing job with LeChuck. A nice mix of skeleton and voodoo zombie, and those glowing red eyes. Ik some fans will have an issue with the fact that, just as it was the case for Return to Monkey Island, LeChuck is not voiced by the legendary Earl Boen, but not even the prospect of a new Monkey Island game, helmed by Ron Gilbert himself no less was enough to bring Boen out of retirement. And since Boen has sadly since passed away back in January, that meant Rare had to rely on Jess Harnell, who in the opinion of this salty old pirate, still does an outstanding and fantastic job at bringing G.P. LeChuck to life. And Rare's rendition of the iconic voodoo pirate really fits with Harnell's take on LeChuck. I haven't watched any other videos yet that would spoil this for me, but I can only imagine that if we get to see other Monkey Island mainstays, such as Elaine Marley-Threepwood, Wally B. Feed, and maybe even Morgan LeFlay. The fact we get to see the Black Pearl at Stan's at least gives me hope for a future POTC Tall Tale, maybe a full mash up with Monkey Island. I hold my suspicions that LeChuck will choose to side with Flameheart and his son rather than the Dark Brethren, partly because he's had his own experiences with fire (Curse of Monkey Island), and being a zombie pirate who has come back from the dead time and time again, he'd be at odds with Davy Jones, who stated in A Pirate's Life that "A world without the eternal abyss is a world that refuses to face the truth: nothing lasts forever!" And if we do get something like a PoTC/MI/SoT mashup, even if it's very unlikely, I want to see Jolly Roger make his debut and really put some pressure on us players. MURRAY IS PERFECT AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
you know if they're going all the way back to monkey island, i want them to put DK island in the game, even if the kongs are not just having the island would be awesome, i mean, DK 64 WAS a Rare game.
I mean, technically the Paradise Islands from Viva Piñata exist in-universe, but I think DK island is a long shot outside maybe and Easter egg considering Nintendo owns the character
@@nicolasnamed ngl, before the whole "expansion pack" bull for the switch came out, i had an arguement about how nintendo may own the kongs but the island was still rare's. that arguement died that day. so i must concede you thy win.
![Monkey Island Theme Song - ["Pirates of the Caribbean" Style (DAVY JONES & HE IS A PIRATE)]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/q1dyLMcm3ns/mqdefault.jpg)
Here after the announcement of Return to Monkey Island. Just in case we weren't already hyped enough.
so i am not the only one that is going through all iteration of monkey island soundtracks, news and easter eggs, after the announcement?
@@StudioKudos Never, sir. The community rejoices together in this. :)
@vasco romagnoli tiny Tina wonderlands has a monkey Island stage
How appropriate! You fight like a cow.
@sperz35 I saw my dude!! When I heard Armato’s voice it sunk in. We’re really getting this. The wait is finally over.
When the music started playing inside the game I got goose bumps, I loved monkey island when I was a kid
I can only imagine. Must've been surreal
The best part is the music and some atmosphere. I still love that! 1 and 3 are the best I think.
Exactly , didn't play this game for years it was one my first game ever and yet as soon as the music started i knew :')
We all did
They need to add this to the shanties list
Thi is Roblox music
I really hope so. This song is such a vibe
yessss
i said this when i first started playing SOT Lmao ; i didnt even know htis was a refrence at the time ; grew up on monkey island ; when this song started playing was such a nostalgia hit for me
@@spartan9669 Please for the love of god tell me you are joking
♥ I'm really glad that Legendary Captain Threepwood™ has not been forgotten ♥
Ofc! Who can forget captain Guybrush Threepwood, mighty pirate!
Sounds like a flooring inspector.
@@cerberus144 NOW I'M REALLY HAPPY. Captain Threepwood is going to shine again MY BODY IS READY
@@macaroll such a Mancomb Seepgood thing of you to say.
@@jamesrogers643 Thank ye, me hearty!
"I, Captain Hector Barbossa, have followed Jack over the seven seas, through this world and the next, only to stumble over this....this....Threepwood. And in less than an hour my ship was on the bottom of the ocean.....(sigh) Guybrush Threepwood."
What is this from?
@@CopiumCentral1027 It's from me. :)
I hope this is a hint that they are bringing Guybrush into SoT
One of the journals hinted it perhaps?
@@zachy2472 the journals mentioned Guybrush heading to the sea of thieves so fingers crossed!
If they ever do that, i swear i am going to cry. It's been so long since we had some monkey island content
well Disney does own the rights so with this PoTC update its not out the picture
Rell my rassrole raggy
So Guybrush actually survived being marooned with Elaine in the cannon for this. I wonder if that means LeChuck and Big Whoop are the focus of the next big update. id love if you could visit Mele island ect in the next update...
This comment needs more upvotes so the devs see it
@@HespersQuestwe got a redditor right here
An extra e on that island me bucko! Tis Mêlée Island me heartie.
@@Johannes00 i be a gay butt pirate n be looking for some semen to fill me poop deck yar har har black beard gave himself syphilis from putting an old needle in his penis every time he had captives to freak them out
@@SgtxAnus Be kind and please edit your original comment to show respect for the Monkey Island series?
sea of thieves saving all the pirates even from other franchises
first blackwyche, then monkey Island, this is trully a delight to see these sailors back on the freshest seas
All we need is the ideas from Project Dream to be added
@@koop-xcie7715 And now even more so!
2 years later, we finally got a Monkey Island DLC!!
Is anyone else actually more psyched for the potential monkey island stuff hinted at here than they are for all the rest of the disney stuff?
even if its outfits i would still love to see more monkey island love
It would fit into Sea of Thieves so perfectly. The game itself has a rather comedic nature so a Monkey Island crossover is so fitting
And if we someday meet Guybrush, now that would be the best Pirate I've ever seen.
Nah.
@@JiiiBiii815 Don't you mean the Mightiest Pirate you've ever seen? 😜
I came into this without getting spoiled or anything, damn the chills… rare rocks
As someone who's never even played a Monkey Island game, I got a few chills myself. I had to explain it to my crewmate who didn't get it lol.
The whole feel of the first tale of Pirate's Life was already about nostalgia, the Cursed Captain telling you of how great his time had been with his crew in that lil' shelter they built in the Sea of the Damned. When I found this easter egg and the music started playing it brought tears to my eyes
@@scatheantheasura7900 same here I honestly had no idea and didn't have it spoiled so when I discovered it it brought a tear to my eye too.
I actually find this music really nice and relaxing
Here after the announcement of the Monkey Island crossover XD
tbh I never played the games but I'm so hyped, I love the mood and I will certainly play the games this summer
I couldn’t believe my ears when I heard this ingame, so glad I didn’t get it spoiled!
Oh man, got such nostalgia from this. Monkey Island was the first pirate game I ever played. Great memories. I hope it lives on forever.
Man... 1 year ago I had no idea what monkey island was when I stumbled across this easter egg in game, and this theme compelled me to look it up, and so I bought The Curse of Monkey Island thinking it was the first game LMAO. Here I am a year later and Monkey Island is probably my favorite video game franchise. Thank you op for uploading this bc this video is the reason why I got into these games.
I love your comment! Out of curiosity, do you belong to a younger generation? Monkey island was a very famous game franchise in the 90s and early 00s.
@@megatacka For the sake of privacy I won’t give out a year, but I was born in the 2000s. The funny thing is, none of my friends have heard of the games, but all of their dads remember.
I am so happy I could cry. Thanks Rarefolk
"Big Whoop isn't Just a treasure. It contains the secret to another world. Find That World and you'll be able to escape LeChuck forever....."
"what is the secret of monkey island!?"
"Err...well it's a secret to another world!!!"
"HAH! You don't even know what it is do you!"
"No..."
LeChuck can't be stopped. Only can temporarily slow him down. He's been blown up, frozen, melted with root beer, nothing ever kills him
OK, I want Insult Sword Fighting in SoT.
There have been two achievements referencing that Monkey Island segment since day one! :D
“You Fight Like A Merchant” and “How Appropriate! You Fight Like A Chicken”
yesssss
@@dillpickle987 No no no, here on the Sea of Thieves, we fight things a little differently...
Bro after the second Monkey TT I never wanna hear insult sword fighting again
The moment I heard this tune, I was grinning from ear to ear. Love the MI series! Curse of Monkey Island is my favorite of the series.
Deep in the Caribbean...
YOU ARE A HERO
Thank you so much! It's stuck in my head since I discovered the easter egg.
Voodoo Lady would be a great asset to Order of Souls for sure.
Literaly anything from the Monkey Island series is a great asset for SoT.
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Set that up for a near perfect loop, much appreciated.
With the Announcement of a new Monkey Island, I’d say it’s a matter of time before we get some other covers in SoT
Hey guess what
Jack Sparrow: Sometimes things come back mate. We're livin' proof, you and me.
It's a game of long odds... unless you have an unbreakable five game deal with Lucasarts. Or unless you're a lovably inept cartoon character with potential for a few more sequels.
@@TheTurnipKing lol
glad to see SOT devs are cultured
the xylophone is quite soothing.
second best low key cover i've ever heard...
Monkey Island crossover! Need, now!
I legit screamed/fanboy'd when I found this place in game.
Anybody else came back here after xbox showcase?
yep
I could listen it for days
This is such a nice arrangement for MI! ❤️ It sounds so mellow!
me and a friend were getting all the journals and i saw the names and it just didnt click and then i heard it and my heart swelled with joy
thanks bro been waiting for someone to post this
There's a monkey in my pocket
And I thank you from my heart
This made our day so much better
Truly brilliant work of art
Let's all hope that it's a teaser
Let's hope it's around the bend
Hope the stories will continue
Just... never let it end.
Who’s excited for the legend of monkey island that was announced on June 11, 2023?
I’m 14 and I’ve been to Disney world (in Florida, but I live in Canada so it’s pretty far) 10 times or so, meaning I’ve been going there since a very young age. Something about this song gave me a bunch of nostalgia from being there. Every condo I stayed at had either speakers or an actual player playing steel drum music and it sounded a lot like this. The Pirate’s Life update to sea of thieves is the greatest update to any game of all time, quote me on that. Don’t even get me started on how beautifully accurate they got the 3rd or 4th quest to the actual ride in magic kingdom. I’ve been on that thing at least 10 times and they got that stuff near spot on.
You got to go play Monkey Island if you havn't already.
@@TwitchXk90 yeah my friends and I have gone there a few times just to listen to the music. It’s so good.
Crossover with monkey island would be amazing!
I tried to make my avatar, weapons, pet and ship parts adjusted as good as I could to guybrush, but these trousers... their pockets can't even fit a damn key! How am I supposed to even fit a whole dog inside?!
Not to mention a 5-foot Q-Tip
@@Panzer_the_Merganser hahahaha!!!! NICE reference. It allows you access to the second largest monkey head that I've ever seen
Wait... so there’s a universe where Monkey Island and Pirates of the Caribbean meet. Lol. Which is hilarious because both are inspired by On Stranger Tides and POTC was made from a recycled Mikey Island script.
Actually POTC was before Monkey Island. Monkey Island took inspiration from the ride Pirates of the Caribbean - like the dog being named Walt in MI2 etc.
@@GenGamesUniverse they meant the movies not the ride
Y'know I hardly knew monkey island, however the moment I saw the name of the legendary pirate, I couldn't stop thinkin' about it ever since. Threepwood has got to be the best pirate, amongst many other legends
The Best Pirate You've Never Seen.
@@TheTurnipKing No just "Mighty Pirate"
This slow it has an emotional touch
I love this song
*** GOD I CAN'T WAIT ***
I knew this easter egg was an omen.
Set playback speed to 1.5x and let the nostalgia submerge you.
Thank you so much for this, king
I never played monkey island and somehow i knew there had to be a reference for this place
Yeah so did I. I thought it was like a reference from banjo kazoowi because I was getting some kind of vibes from this
This video literally got me into a new game franchise tysm
YOOOOOO FINALLY A NEW MONKEY ISLAND!
amazing thanks, been trying to find this song ever since i found the Headless MOnkey location
I squealed so much when I got to this easter egg aha
Thank you I’ve been searching everywhere
This is amazing, thank you!
Rare just announced Monkey Island crossover for Sea of Thieves in Xbox Showcase. I always had a hunch they would be doing that next after hearing this easter egg.
When I pressed 1.5 speed increase it sounded very similar to the original
I would dare say it's the say tempo, but thank you for this revelation
I think 1.25 is better
@@VORTEX09-q6j I mean sure, but 1.5 is closer to the original
@@Empty12345 its special edition version where mai theme had faster tempo
I did the same thing, and but it 100% sounds like the original.
Man u know i can’t stop playing this game forever
Goosebumps
I never knew what monkey island was, but this song was good. Thank you
you should check them out they are some of the best games in its genre
Plus it will change the way you see yourself in the Sea of Thieves and your understanding of what actually is a Pirate for ever.
*SPIT TAKE* WHAT!? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MONKEY ISLAND IS!? *passes out*
It's like one of the best point and click adventure games ever! It's crammed so full of references out of the wazoo like BTTF, Disney etc
Now ik why I understood nothing from the journals as the lore is from a different game
So many memories
Ohhh thanks man!!!
I,m so Hyped for return to monkey island :)
It has been 2 years what?!?!? I havent heard of this add on back then, only when it was announced like two months back
I could imagine this being played at a water park.
This mf be spittin
Thank you so much
"Somewhere in the Caribbean"
SCREAMED AT DISCOVERING THIS, SCREAMED AT THE ANNOUNCEMENT, I AM FUCKIN DYIN OF HYPE
I may play Sea of Thieves just to go to this Easter Egg location.
1.5x speed gives you more of the original Monkey Island music.
monkey island theme song POG
We want Muray, the Diabolical skull STRIDING (or Rolling) into a Skull Keep Fortress
MONKEY ISLAND IS COMING BACK BAAAAABY I WAITED YEARS
This is so darn good omg
I need to play these games
Lets go to the paradise friends ;)
MONKEY ISLAND IS BACK!
❤❤❤❤
They're actually making 3 monkey island dedicated tall tales
GUYBRRRRUSH THRRRREEPWOOD?! HA HAHA! THAT'S THE STUPIDEST NAME I'VE EVER HEARD!
My name is Mancomb Seepgood.
"Yeah, it is pretty stupid sounding, isn't it?"
Guys, think about it, Guybrush Threepwood, what a weird name.
Actual beat
LETS GO BOOOYS
It sounds like the 'indoors' version of the Monkey Island theme. If you are familiar with the Skylanders Giants soundtrack you will understand what I mean.
The sea of thieves monkey island DLC with a full monkey island game inside sea of thieves needs to happen
I have some news my friend
istg if guybrush never shows up in SoT outside of this easter egg i will shit myself
I'd start playing SoT if they add any form of MI content
Honestly surprised to see that in Sea of Thieves, same way I was surprised by that easter egg in Uncharted 4.
#rolls on the deck laughing# XD
Would love for them to add a three headed monkey pet alongside that crab we often see in the trailers.
Beautiful 😍
I’ll wait for Ron Gilbert’s Sea of Thieves update, thanks.
By now I would be happy with any Monkey Island update. Monkey Island needs to be brought back again in one way or another :)
Dont talk shit, Ron Gilbert is doing work on Sea of Thieves??? Now I need to buy a xbox, goddamnit.
It was a joke.
I'm not sure the Sea of Thieves is ready to deal with Nor Treblig
Ya know, I'm starting to wonder if we'll see more from both Monkey Island and Pirates of the Caribbean in Sea of Thieves. I'm personally curious to see a potential reference or even appearance of Guybrush, Elaine, Murray, and perhaps even LeChuck himself. As for the Pirates of the Caribbean side of things, well, while it would be cool to see more characters from the films (such as Barbossa), I want to see a villain that never made his appearance in the films, but was certainly a cursed pirate that could even give LeChuck and Graymarrow a run for their money: Jolly Roger, from the Pirates of the Caribbean Online game. It really makes you wonder, since the Dark Brethren have the Warsmith, Duke, the Gold Hoarder and Davy Jones, as well as the mysterious "Cap'n", Flameheart and his son are going to need their own special forces. Granted, they tried and failed to fully bring Graymarrow back from the grave, but they could recruit the likes of LeChuck and Jolly Roger, two heavyweights among pirates who specialize in dark powers, and could possess the ability to fully raise Graymarrow back from the dead instead of summoning a mere imprint of his soul.
how do you feel now knowing they released a full monkey island update with all the characters
@@buasfe6986 I haven't played it yet but I was beyond thrilled and hyped when I saw the trailer. Rare did a wonderfully fantastic job bringing the world of Monkey Island to life in the Sea of Thieves, and they certainly have an eye for the finer details; the shifting pattern on Stan's jacket alone is testament to that!
Guybrush looks as fantastic and derpy as ever, albeit with more facial hair than what he had in Tales of Monkey Island. Though it's understandable, given how one of the Pirate Lords mentions that he hasn't set foot out of the mansion for almost a year, and how the Voodoo Lady says that LeChuck has turned the memories of this island into a prison for Guybrush. And speaking of that wonderful rotting husk, once again, Rare did an amazing job with LeChuck. A nice mix of skeleton and voodoo zombie, and those glowing red eyes. Ik some fans will have an issue with the fact that, just as it was the case for Return to Monkey Island, LeChuck is not voiced by the legendary Earl Boen, but not even the prospect of a new Monkey Island game, helmed by Ron Gilbert himself no less was enough to bring Boen out of retirement. And since Boen has sadly since passed away back in January, that meant Rare had to rely on Jess Harnell, who in the opinion of this salty old pirate, still does an outstanding and fantastic job at bringing G.P. LeChuck to life. And Rare's rendition of the iconic voodoo pirate really fits with Harnell's take on LeChuck.
I haven't watched any other videos yet that would spoil this for me, but I can only imagine that if we get to see other Monkey Island mainstays, such as Elaine Marley-Threepwood, Wally B. Feed, and maybe even Morgan LeFlay.
The fact we get to see the Black Pearl at Stan's at least gives me hope for a future POTC Tall Tale, maybe a full mash up with Monkey Island. I hold my suspicions that LeChuck will choose to side with Flameheart and his son rather than the Dark Brethren, partly because he's had his own experiences with fire (Curse of Monkey Island), and being a zombie pirate who has come back from the dead time and time again, he'd be at odds with Davy Jones, who stated in A Pirate's Life that "A world without the eternal abyss is a world that refuses to face the truth: nothing lasts forever!"
And if we do get something like a PoTC/MI/SoT mashup, even if it's very unlikely, I want to see Jolly Roger make his debut and really put some pressure on us players.
MURRAY IS PERFECT AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I would love to have the spit challenge or the swear duel from monkey island in sea of thieves
Idk why, but when I heard this in the game, it gave me like a fun playful feeling. It felt weird.
V I B E
Could this be the same track that plays in the newest Return to Monkey Island trailer? It sounds so similar.
Does anyone know what this cover of the song is called? Specifically on Spotify?
you know if they're going all the way back to monkey island, i want them to put DK island in the game, even if the kongs are not just having the island would be awesome, i mean, DK 64 WAS a Rare game.
I mean, technically the Paradise Islands from Viva Piñata exist in-universe, but I think DK island is a long shot outside maybe and Easter egg considering Nintendo owns the character
@@nicolasnamed ngl, before the whole "expansion pack" bull for the switch came out, i had an arguement about how nintendo may own the kongs but the island was still rare's. that arguement died that day. so i must concede you thy win.