What is Wrong with Tesla? | Gruber Motors
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- In this video, we explore the perceived Tesla shortcomings, that often result in bashing, may really be the very things that make them as successful as they are.
Tesla has created the largest degree of disruption in the transportation field since the industrial revolution, and has created the template for all other vehicle manufacturers, both new, and existing transitioning from fossil fuel, to emulate and follow.
As market leaders, we outline how Tesla has inspired a legion of copycats as tenured and new auto manufacturers scramble to make sense of the Tesla success, attempt to shift to the new business model and culture, and integrate and adopt some of their best practices.
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As a happy owner of a high mileage Tesla and 450km away from the next SC: Whats wrong with Tesla is the Right to Repair.
His point about neglect of electric cars at dealerships is quite valid. One of the reasons I bought a Tesla was that dealerships for other brands were uninterested in selling me an electric car. At a Nissan dealership, I asked about the Leaf. The salesman went into the dealership building and never came back out. It was far easier to test drive a Tesla than any other brand.
Great video! Another example of why Tesla doesn't need advertisements. :) I will never go back to owning a internal combustion engine powered car. Greetings from Norway.
Well said!
@Netizen's United "It's afforded by allowing the U.S. to burden themselves with your defense"
If that was true, how come Norway's own defense budget is about the same size as Sweden's? Sweden is a neutral country with twice the population compared to Norway. Is the U.S. burdened with the defense of neutral countries such as Sweden too?
"Just like your socialized medicine"
You're saying the U.S. is paying for health care in Norway as well as their defense, though I think you mean something else, I'm just not sure what. Cause that is obviously not true.
Norwegians don't get bribed to buy an EV either, that's not how the system is set up. A bribe suggests that you receive money in order to do something, no Norwegian receives money for buying an EV. And you don't get paid to keep it either.
The taxation system has, over many years, made sure to tax purchasing and use of cars (emissions) quite heavily in Norway. EVs are exempt of such taxes, and that is the only thing that can be described as a "bribe" in the system.
Edit: Yes, there has also been things like free charging and free ferries, but those incentives are gone or heavily reduced now. They also didn't represent a whole lot of money to the average EV buyer, though important to some.
The "best parking spots"-claim I have never seen happen anywhere, so that is probably anecdotal at best. It has not been a nation wide policy.
Oh, by the way, "Scandinavia was a major "test bed" for EVs in Europe" is not correct either, Scandinavia is Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and these three sovereign countries never had exactly the same incentives or tax exemptions for EVs, and nobody forced them to have any such incentives or exemptions either.
I watched this twice. So impressed with the script which seems to meld an amazing Automobile Subject Matter Expert with an Environmental and Innovative Business Evangelist. Gruber is truly unique!
Excellent scripting and editing sir. Tell your sound and vid employees I like their work on this topic.
We will! Thank you for the kind words!
I appreciate the perspective and I am super grateful for what Tesla has done, but when my late 2020 Model 3 has four different *really* annoying rattles and the panel gaps are atrocious, and all this on a car that they've been building for ~4 years, it's still pretty frustrating.
That’s too bad. Hopefully they’ll get it figured out for you. My model s has been great going on 5 years and 62k miles.
Wasn't the "Tesla bashing" was complaints about parts availability? Rich Rebuilds, right? Started a company to repair out of warranty Teslas the manufacturer won't suport.
Some don't like it when people point out the obvious like Rich did.
Thanks Pete from a subscriber for several months. This video needed to be made and you did a great job. I have watched everything you have made. I'm wondering what the model Y owner was in your shop for, or just showing you the new model? Thanks again.
The Y was of course under warranty, so routine issues were handled by Tesla. We installed aftermarket red calipers. Great car!
I remain skeptical about the environmental impact of electric vehicles, especially battery manufacture and generation until the latter is less dependent on fossil fuels, but this was the most thoughtful and interesting video on Tesla that I have seen.
JB Straubel, ex-CTO of Tesla for 15 years, has a huge recycling plant in Carson City designed to handle battery recycling. There will of course be more as this becomes economically viable and revenue generating.
@Netizen's United Once the batteries are no longer good enough to be powering the EV they were once in, they can still be put into use as stationary batteries for solar or wind energy production for years after, and once they can't be used for that anymore it will be cheaper for manufacturers of batteries to mine minerals, rare or not, from the used batteries than from the ground. Atleast once it's scaled up, not enough batteries are depleted and decommissioned yet for it to be profitable.
I do agree with you when it comes to necessary investments in power grids in order to handle surges, but it may not be as big of a problem as you seem to think. There are already home chargers in use that will help the customer distribute the load and charging to times in the day (often at night) when the load on the net is not too heavy and the prices are low.
Edit: Btw, nobody is saying we're not going to keep producing products made from petrochemicals anymore once we stop _burning_ most of the oil. It's not like you HAVE to stop producing oil and petrochemical products all together just because you need less of the base product. Reality is not that black OR white, it's more shades of grey, and I believe you know it. Sure, products based on petrochemicals may become more expensive, but at the same time mankind will have oil for millennials instead of a century at best once we stop burning it where not necessary.
Check the FACTS. Battery mining and recycling is minor compared to oil extractions and spills and tons of air pollution. 1/20th the environmental impact.
Rich wasn't a Tesla hater and Tesla was wrong to punish someone who has put their cars back on the road instead of rotting in landfills.
Too true. Tesla made a huge mistake here.
Cars never go to landfills, they get recycled.
@@JRP3 Best way of recycling a car is to give it a 2nd life.
@@moestrei Of course but not relevant to the claim that cars end up in landfills. They don't.
@Netizen's United Tesla is afraid of salvaged cars melting down which would negatively impact the company, not the person who did the job incorrectly. It's not an unreasonable position.
Rich Rebuilds induced my interest with EVs especially Tesla. Here is Victoria Australia the government has legislated a per kilometer tax for EVs which makes the switch to EVs less desirable. I enjoy this channel and subscribed
That tax is absurd! Explains those "Honest governement ads" going here on TH-cam. I love them.
Ironic that Rich is what got you into EVs and yet he is the supposed "Tesla Basher" that Pete mentions here had his referral program rewards revoked. (I think it was total BS since Rich was giving them lots of free publicity through his teardowns and repairs, and all his complaints were legitimate, like them not giving him access to parts)
@@jeremykeaton274 Hey Jeremy, Yep in the earlier days Rich was a good plug for Tesla but as thing went on he was getting more and more shafted by Tesla. But I love the technical aspects of both channels.
@@aussietaipan8700 me too.
Your comments regarding Michigan were true up until about a year ago when Tesla settled their suit with the state and now has a complete sales and service center in Grand Rapids.
According to the Tesla "Find Us" map, there are also two more north of Detroit. Thank you johnossim1, I wasn't aware this had come to pass. Great info.
@@evwannabe593 looks like Clarkston is complete service/sales and Troy is still a gallery in the mall. www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2020/01/22/michigan-settles-lawsuit-allows-tesla-sell-fix-vehicles/4540903002/
Great education Pete. The Solo segment was an interesting surprize. The Roadsters at you shop was also a nice touch.
Spectacular video. I love this style of education, this is so incredibly valuable.
Glad to hear we are able to make the grade Aaron, we appreciate that.
Michigan now finally allows Tesla to have service centers and sales centers in the state. It took a lawsuit against the state to change it. Texas still doesn’t allow direct sales. In both cases, it was “free market” republicans that were blocking Tesla.
Very good video Pete, very informative and also definitely recommended for people who want to know more about Tesla.
And nice also to see a supercarharger in the Netherlands / Breukelen, I go there regularly with my Tesla.
Greetings from the Netherlands
Albert
Awesome video Mr Gruber!😎
Glad you enjoyed it
Best one yet. Keep ‘em coming Pete.
More to come!
Understanding Tesla, the product, processes, the road map and the future.
There's a saying "In order to get ahead, first find out what everybody else is doing, then don't do it!" Tesla and Elon are prime examples of that.
And so is Apples's iPhone.
Elon needs to chill a bit, and needs to stop promising things that are clearly not going to happen in the time promised, but your right right about him, and about the company as a whole, another great video!
Tbh I've seen cars advertised at malls since I was a child. Before Tesla was even founded 😅
You are missing the point of what is being presented here. Tesla is not just advertising cars in malls, they are selling them out of retail spaces in malls IN SUBSTITUTE of doing so out of traditional dealer lots as vehicle manufacturers always have. This practice is certainly not something you saw happening when you were a child... unless you are still a child today.
My new 2023 model Y is as close to perfect as I’ve seen in my 60+ year lifespan. The improvement over my 2019 model 3 is amazing !!
"Parasitic elements". -That is so well put, because that is what the dealers are, where we live Teslas are to big physically and we want an EV but have put the buying off because we actually prefer to go to the dentist. Also there is only 1 charging point in the whole city of 80000 people. I hope we catch up soon, meanwhile I try to bicycle everywhere instead. Thanks for a great channel!
Love your passion for your craft.
AMAZING video as always. Very informative
Glad you enjoyed it
AND Texas. Apparently cars made in Terafactory Texas will have to go to surrounding states before Texans can buy them and bring them back to Texas.
Excellent narrative! Ax always. Repeated compliments from Slovenia, 2 million nation.
Fun fact: Oklahomans DO like to browse car dealer lots. On Sundays. When they're closed by law. :)
Never occurred to us! Good to know!
@@grubermotorcompany anything to avoid car salesmen :)
Ha Ha. This is true in Wisconsin too. The only good thing about Blue Laws.
Thanks Pete, great vibe video.
great video. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Any opinions out there regarding buying the extended warranty for my 2019 Model X. (I drive 12k miles per year).
Thanks 🙏!
Extended warranties are contingent how risk adverse you are.
Tesla's are relatively low maintenance, once past the early production phase when most design problems are uncovered and resolved under warranty.
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Thanks I agree
What a good title.... good job guys. love your utube.
I like this smart guy with his paper holding thingy. Quality narrative.
Ah yes, clipboard...
Great presentation, thanks. Keep doing great videos.
I agree, and intenal disign what tesla uses, and opportunity to giag them thru internal enthernet port and many more. They are trully innovative company.
I wish they had a factory racing team. Not drag, but sports cars.
Come Elon, go to Le Mans.
Now if Tesla would just support right to repair and DIY
They are doing a much better job than the other auto manufacturers. Our Service Organization - Gruber Motors, has a strong partnership growing stronger every day.
The protection of IP concerns are quite legit for a cutting edge tech company like Tesla. Fortunately, our focus on their first platform Tesla Roadster vehicles makes it much easier for collaboration since the IP and design information is ancient and no longer relevant.
@@grubermotorcompany Protection of IP concerns? I thought Elon once said that all their patents could be used by anyone? He also said that if other automakers bankrupt Tesla by building a better product than them, it's still a win since there will be EVs people want to buy? Don't forget there are businesses like Munro & Associates who tears the cars down, analyzes them and gives IP to other automakers. Protecting IP concerns is a contradicting, anti consumer cop out.
Not to diminish the excellent work you do with older Tesla's, but you're essentially handling the work that Tesla either can't afford to or doesn't want to support any longer. Hence a great relationship.
@@anthonyreynolds2365 There are still mighty forces at play that want to see everything EV crash and burn. The oil industry is not exactly cheering at the side lines, and the conversion to producing EVs is costing old auto a fortune too. Once EVs reach price parity with ICE-vehicles I believe Tesla will be less protective.
Excellent Video!
Thank you very much!
Wow great job
Hello, you are absolutely right! 1000% .... thanX
We need more trains electric mass transport buses etc. not milions of small ev.This is all about, some smart guys make a boatload of money from propaganda.Nothing new on the Planet.
That you Pete well said !
Are you strictly a Tesla repair facility or do you sell some you fix?
My 2012 model S saved my life, and called 911 for me. We now own a model S+ I had 185,000 on my 2012 model S 85
Great video and very informative, I like the Solo EV very much.
As an engineer, I see improvements that can take EV commuting away from the primitive road network.
Making standard roads is highly inefficient and polluting. We need to innovate to ev roads that are ideal for high efficiency EVs, like the Solo.
Most commuting is done by single drivers in large cars on congested roads. ICE spew out vast amounts of pollution in the peak hours crawl while EVs crawl with ICE and all drivers suck in fumes. A better way is a Solo type EV on a lighter transport network that can fly over current roads. It has less commute time and takes care off the old road network. The elevated road network can be fully automated and a hight Tech commute for the single person. Families can use their larger EVs on the normal roads for shopping and fun travel.
Keep up your great innovation in EV servicing, I think there many ways EVs can have greater range with new ideas that can be added on. I need to talk with someone who understands the full potential of what EVs can do in the 21st century and really clean our environment .
Thanks for letting me vent, you are a great engineer and presenter.
Thank you
Pete
By the way, the white model S is like my original and the Red S is what my new one is
Hello , good video and very good cars
Thanks for the visit
Has Pete ever done a video without his sunglasses?
A: no.
As always, thanks for the great video.
You're welcome!
#clickbait :-P btw love your vids
lol it's so ridiculous how the lucid sign is stuck right next to Tesla... they follow Tesla like little puppies.
Emulating winners is a sound strategy.
"Transition to sustainable energy". This is a curious phrase which nobody seems to unpack or explain what it really means. Instead, anybody who talks about Tesla or EV's speaks of reducing emissions, as if that is the burning reason why we need to transition to electric cars.
Nobody is talking about the real reason why billions of dollars are being poured into rapidly building up our capacity to build millions of cars to replace the gas cars we have been driving for over a century: Peak Oil. Under Trump, America resorted to literally scraping the bottom of the barrel, getting as much shale oil out as we possibly can, because that's all that's left. Now that Biden is president, it's all about EV's. Massive amounts of government money are going into making EV's affordable, because presumably oil is going to run out at some point, especially if we aren't even bothering to get it out of the ground in significant volumes. Time is running out indeed.
Heaven help us if we get to 5% or 10% EV penetration of the car market, and then the price of gas hits $10/gallon, or the gas just stops flowing. Millions of people will be left stranded with no affordable means of transportation. I hope that Tesla or somebody builds an affordable EV soon, because there are millions of people who can only afford a used gas car for less than $10k, but there are literally no EV's in that price bracket.
Where I live, the EV options range from an outdated used EV with limited range for $20k, to a brand new cheap Chinese EV with slightly better range for just over $40k, to the cheapest Tesla with acceptable range for $70k. None of these are good options for people used to getting at least 500km range even from a budget compact car, and you can choose from thousands of cars like that in the price range of $5k to $15k, depending on how much space, luxury and power that you want in your daily driver. In my opinion, it's going to take decades before we reach price parity between EV's and ICE cars. And for that reason, the transition to sustainable energy is also going to take decades, unless we get a really bad oil shock really soon. That may be coming.
You articulate well, and some of your concerns are right on track. I too believe the adoption rate will increase exponentially as soon as the "cheaper" EV appears.
There is a Chinese company - KNDI - which after tax credits is actually able to create a sub-$10K no frills car, 4 door sedan, 80 miles range, full warranties. They have already setup up inventory and distribution in Texas. This pricing will only improve as battery costs continue to decline.
I have the same concerns about the disruption in oil consumption related to price.
@@grubermotorcompany Price is only one factor. If a company makes cheap cars but only in limited numbers, that doesn't make a dent in the market. Tesla is on the right track in that they are gearing up to make a large number of cars, but up to this time their prices have been high, for good reason, as they are needing to make a lot of profit to reinvest in their factories so they can make more cars. The concern I have is that there is only one Tesla, and some of the other manufacturers are talking a big game about EV's, but who knows if they will actually deliver? We will see over the next few years I guess.
@@aftonline Ofcourse you need to have sold quite alot of new cars over some time before the "good ones" start going for a lower price in the used market. It just means that people who make less money will have to wait and can't be early adopters, which is the way it is with most things in this world. On the bright side, people with more money, who choose to be early adopters, will pay - and in doing so will help bring the price of both new and used vehicles down over time.
There may be only one Tesla, but there are plenty of other newcomers who are manufacturers of pure electric vehicles world wide. I know of more than 50 brands that are now selling EVs, and that is a growing number.
Edit: Recount, more than 50, not more than 40.
@@NoMoYOUsernames The problem is that those 50 brands are only making a few thousand cars a year each and Tesla is making close to a million already. That's what I mean by there is only one Tesla. Ford has only sold 27000 Mach E's which sounds like a lot but that's a drop in the bucket compared to the global vehicle population of 1 billion plus cars...
aftonline; It`s here.
The squeaking suspension is one of the things wrong with Tesla. Sure, many car models have some manufacturing defects one thing or another. But they are fixed by recalls!! Elon, just taking your medicine and admit that there is defect in the suspension design/manufacturing process and fix those problems for the owners.
Great presentation! I wish you'd go to congress and wake up Biden and the Dems who seem to distain Tesla. It totally upsets me how Tesla is being ignored by Biden and the Dems.
Of course by 2022 the referral program has been discontinued…. No longer needed.
Nice
No one really cares who the CEO of the company is, customers only care about good products and low prices.
Global? Try to buy a Tesla anywhere in South-America.
Subsidies.
What some people call "political correctness" others call "not being a narcissistic douch-bag"... just saying.
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Small cars for small people.Trouble is the majority of the market is large,obese people.Vans ,suvs fill that need.Sadly evs dosent
Small cars? Do you even know what a Tesla is? Model X is not small.
Teslas aren't small. You don't know what you're talking about.
Mr Gruber, I applaud the presentation style and the very factual narrative of your videos. However you make an error yourself that you accuse others of within this video. The climate emergency is non existent and a distortion of science under which Tesla ( and you) markets the vehicles.
Please use your same fact based methodology you employ to describe Gruber motors and Tesla repair to research the actual climate evidence we are presently living within. The cars are good and shouldn’t rely on false data to sell.
It’s shameful that data collecting organizations with leading edge technology such as NASA and climate scientists who have spent years of their life studying climate are conspiring with FALSE DATA, even in peer reviewed journals/publications. Fortunately there are brave people who, even without any substantial training or experience in climate science, can see through this massive and super-complex conspiracy; these people know THE TRUTH and the experts can’t be trusted because they have ulterior motives such as ! /S
You are not paying attention. March 2020. The civilized world is caught in the grips of a pandemic which literally shuts down transportation. Within a couple weeks, air and water quality suddenly improves, VISIBLY. People shelter at home, presumably maintaining or increasing electrical consumption. To claim evidence is “none existent”, “ a distortion of science”, or any other denier buzz phrase IGNORES the evidence before you.
@@davidvicari5139 transportation has not shut down literally or otherwise, who cares about air quality in cities as it is irrelevant to this thread, the only thing interesting is rise in temp ( steady as she goes) and lack of placeholders ( disasters) for global warming. Drowning in Manhattan are you….?
@@callmeishmael7452 “air quality in cities is irrelevant”. See the cluelessness I deal with?
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