How Kilimani is fast turning into a 'slum'
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The day Yaya Center was built Kilimani was finished
Kilimani is the new Eastleigh owada...
BUT, how do you come at the last minute to tell a developer , they cannot build there? If you ask me, why do we even have county and city officials , if developers can start and finish projects in the city under their noses?. Sometimes you have to find out where the "Rot" is originating from...and its not with the developers...it is with these same officials you are going to complain to, who seem to not be able to do their very own job they were given by the government.
Wadozi are feeling the pressure at last! Sisi hatukunywi maaji, sewer running freely everywhere with no where to go! Gorofa zinajengwa left right and center blocking the little sunlight we were getting for free tunaishi ndani ya giza 24/7…..Good to hear you are starting to feel the pressure kule ju coz mkiongea or even vote kule ju tutasikika zote! Our voices hapa chini haisikiki we live in a mtaro hatuna maji na sunlight is blocked! Haha
The Governor could not stop bars from operating near residential areas. What chance does he have against moneyed and influential construction companies who continue building even with orders not to? Kenya's systems only work for the rich.
Kuna shamba Turukana! Keep crowding until you spread to other regions. Kenya has huge unoccupied land but you all want to squeeze in the city. Serves you right! Greetings from a shade under a tree in Magharini 😀.
Well said.
You don't mess up where you are and then plan to export your messy planning mentality to Turkana! Just do it right, from the beginning.
@@georgeodhiambo598 that's an illitrate understanding of planning. You don't start planning after building. The plans they are calling for they can implement in other unoccupied regions. Most areas in Nairobi have reached carrying capacity. Insisting on crowding with the ignorance of refusing to plan in the other regions is a reflection of how myopic Nairobians are. As I said, those problems serve them right.
The residents should be campaigning for the infrastructure to be expanded, the land in Kilimani is too costly to be used for single family dwellings. The people who were born in Kilimani are growing up and they also want to live in Kilimani and this can only happen if the single family dwellings are demolished and high rise apartment blocks put up.
South B & South C these are other places that have lost the glory they had tall buildings everywhere planning muhimu
Shida ni Kenyans selling land to Somalis. Both places you speak of ni hao wamejaa. They love highrise buildings.
@@FM-jt9wc It is not a developers responsibility to plan a city. There are city fathers whose job it is to ensure that plans are adequate and long term enough. Unfortunately Kenyans get into such positions to eat. That's the tragedy.
@@georgeodhiambo598 Thank you.
Why is NTV pretending that Nairobi planning has been working. Planning in yhe City stopped being adhered to in 1990's. In fact the whole of eastlands should emigrated to wetlands regions of the city to force those in planning to start to follow the law
More like 1970's. Original Kenyatta gave his closest supporters free reign over downtown Nairobi. Look at the videos from that time. You will see that Nairobi rivaled some US and European cities and you can slowly watch things deteriorate over the years. Most Asian countries couldn't even flex on us. Now we look up to all of them.
@@daniells71 Correct! The problem of poor urban planning started soon after independence. Water, drainage, zoning, infrastructure, street hawking, dirty unplanned kiosks all over, public transport, etc were all ignored with people thinking that things just happen. If the mindset does not change, then running away from the mess in Nairobi by moving the capital city to Isiolo will not solve anything. Isiolo will just decay like Nairobi.
@@daniells71 This is what I've been saying. This Nairobi mess is a decades-long problem going all the way back to Kenyatta 1. Not only have all 4 governments failed to build new areas in a planned and organized way, but they've failed to maintain the estates that were built by wazungu in the 70s like Buruburu and Jericho. All the concerned government officials have been doing is engaging in corruption and using that loot to buy themselves acres in the likes of Runda and Karen, while leaving the rest of the population to sort their housing needs out themselves.
@@kim1570 Perfectly stated. Now even Runda and Karen will soon start choking due to poor planning and failure to work the plans. The rot in Nairobi will soon catch up with all with all estates in the city. Fellow Africans must work on their mindset. Africans must develop a longer planning horizon. Long term, slow gains
400 bedsitters… that’s a business mind that cares less about what the impact will be… bora pesa.
I confirmed Kenya is a lost cause when the citizens elected Kenya Kwanza last year. In 2013, I thought that was a fluke, 2017 I said Uhuruto rigged the election but last year!!! Heeee, choices have consequences! Kenya is becoming one big slum right under the noses of everyone with a say. Seriously, Westlands is not any different! It’s also a slum, Karen shopping center, same thing! Ngong Road, Thika Rd, Lang’ata Rd, Waiyaki Way Outer Ring, all neighborhoods in Nairobi have become slums due to lack of zoning control- vibanda all over. I don’t know why successive governments allowed this to happen. I’ve been to poorer countries than Kenya and guess what? You can’t just put a structure on the side of the road just because you want to make a living selling your wares! You have to be in a market and have a license for the same.
Coming back to KK govt, what do you think will happen when the two top politicians are themselves allegedly involved in issues pertaining land within the city? Ruto atabomoa na yeye pia is sitting on questionable land? Deal with it and if you can’t, use your resources to conduct a tough campaign to get the right people in office.
We haven't disagreed with the residents motion regards to the Basic ammenties of which the county govt should act urgently on but calling the highrise buildings in Kile,Kili and Lavi slums then you dont deserve to live in such areas
It's has nothing to do with the environment, water or sewage system failing due to high demands 🤣🤣🤣its rich people holding on to their vast gardens and exclusive zones, if ya'll seen what is happening in South C and parkland then ya'll need to prepare to vacate Nairobi for developers to build affordable housing units through highrise building and leave for Syoks, Mlolongo and such places, where you will get vast areas of land for you privacy and indulge in you extravagance needs.
You must have studied at the UNIVERSITY, located in the 'Planet of The Apes'!
@@molee2339 You ignorance is unparalleled in this forum 😅🤣
@@Jiulize
I am sorry, but i am not the one who studied at the 'Planets of Apes' University! 😜😜
zoning failure by kanjo iflux by chinese contractors left and right
Gmo maize iko already distributes in Kenya. You have eaten gmo already
Slum: a squalid and overcrowded urban street or district inhabited by very poor people.
What type of journalism works this way ? Does Kilimani fall in the category of slums ? When people are not traveled to places in the world, they think small. Travel to the cities in China which are way more developed than Kenya. Residential apartments blocks have 30 to 50 storey high rise residential apartment buildings.
When will Kenyans wake up ? So are they suggesting that kenyans should go and subdivide kiambu land for apartment blocks instead of agriculture ? Only a good roads infrastructure around Nairobi will move residential areas to away from CBD and environs to areas such as kajiado county, machakos and the other areas. All Nairobi needs is a better expansion plan.
The problem isn't the buildings, the problem is the existing infrastructure like sewer system and amenities like water are not sufficient to support the development you just heard the guy say they have been buying water, Nairobi is operating on plans from the 1970s and is not updated to reflect the population and development boom, hizo china umetaja their development is planned meaning they considered the population and development and created adequate infrastructure to support that development which isn't true for Nairobi, we have a water deficit, overwhelmed sewer line and poor solid waste management you can't compare Kenya to china, and deterioration happens gradually Buru Buru and Nairobi west were once upper middle class estates which isn't the same case now, Tom Mboya and Jaramogi Oginga Odinga lived in Jericho when it was for elite Africans now it's a low income area so don't think kilimani can't suffer the same fate if services deteriorates with poor planning, 400 bedsitter units in one building that's a sign of deterioration not to mention the rampant sex trade that goes on in kilimani in the guise of Massage Parlours, many high net worth people like exclusivity if the area gets too common and disorganized full of bedsitters best believe they will migrate
Leave alone Kilimani. The whole of Nairobi is decaying into a slum. Nairobians must accept this sad reality and lead in demanding the City goes back onto the sound principles of planning that was bequeathed to us at independence. Nairobi and most major urban centres in Kenya are decaying
They feel so entitled... ñairobi si ya mama zao
Ignorance punguza
And that’s how nations fail!! When people think like you…saa zingine ni afadhali kunyamaza. Don’t broadcast your stupidity!
Kabisa Bro 💪
I definitely agree..
Nairobi sio ya Mama zap but planning ni muhimu
The entitled goons...you're not a mountain, move to another safer environment!
Goons??
The world is changing...change or perish
You don't have to follow change whose pace and direction has been set by others. Try and impact on change. Lastly change is not always for the better. It can lead to ugly outcomes if not guided and directed.
@@georgeodhiambo598 i dont discuss with o's since i lost direction when i was with them
At this rate, the capital of Kenya should be moved to Isiolo ndo pia Isiolo na Nothern Kenya kudevelop kuanze kupata shida kama hizi. Nairobi is now too crowded.
The rot in Nairobi has been caused by the ever present rotten "short term, quick gains" mentality common with Africans. Shifting the capital city to Isiolo is not a solution. They will simply carry the same rotten "quick gains, short term" mentality to Isiolo.The solution does not lie in physically shifting the capital city to Isiolo. The solution lies in upgrading Africans' rotten mindset of "short term quick gains" to "long term, slow gains mentality".
Africans planning and mental framework hardly see beyond a season. Going to school hardly changes that because it is hard wired in their brains.
@@georgeodhiambo598 Egypt is also moving from Cairo to another new city. Kenya can start all over again with a new capital and get things right. Changing people's mindset takes time but places grow very fast in a few decades. Kilimani never looked like that in the early 2000s
@@JosephMwema The rot in Nairobi and indeed in urban centres in Kenya started soon after independence. It has been caused either by not having proper plans or failing to see through the plans in place. This is an inherent African problem, driven by "short term view and quick gains" A mindset that creates a problem cannot solve the same problem. What Africans need to focus on is to change their mindset, instead of keeping the rotten mindset, and continuously trying to run away from problems that they have created. Urban planning challenges have not just happened. They have been caused by rotten mindsets.
@@georgeodhiambo598 No one is going to hold a people's mindset culpable. We are going to have to start from somewhere, Towns in the rural areas of Kenya are nowhere close to what Nairobi is on some aspects and yet Nairobi is much better than them on some aspects so if we have to get it right this time round, we start on a clean slate and follow proper urban city planning. Greed is everyone's problem but it can be tamed with punitive laws and regulations to ward off and stymie the aggression of those with an exceeding appetite for it from ruining everything else for everyone else.
@@JosephMwema But Nairobi benefitted from the pre-independence planning principles. The decay in Nairobi started after independence. The African mindset is to drive everything into a state of decay, even if the initial project had some insight of planning. How does one explain how Buru Buru was driven into decay into the slum it gas become? How does a city go around approving high rise building without any improvement in water supplies? Why can't water flow continuously in out taps the way it was at independence? What kind of planning horizon do we have in a major urban city like Nairobi? The African mentality rarely goes beyond a season in planning.
Greedy and weak institutions, people will do this stuff. I will rather stay outskirts of Nairobi.
Kama pesa iko yaku jenga shida iko wapi?
You should have spent more years in school. There is something called urban planning. Try and spend some time in understanding it's importance and what it entails.
@@georgeodhiambo598 show me how that school is helping you having money in your account?? Let people do their investment if they have it what's the problem with that?
@@georgeodhiambo598 ..And now you see the problems we are dealing with - mentalities like the one Abdihakim above possesses. The mentality that if one has the money, they can just build however, wherever and whatever they want without any regard for planning. The other side of that coin is highly corrupt NCA and building officials who'll be paid to look the other way. More years in school can't help such folks because many of the illegal highrises in Nai are owned by highly educated and moneyed people.
Sometimes I wonder whether it's just an issue of where we Africans are, developmentally. Why can't we commit ourselves to proper urban planning schemes and follow them through? I think we've been messed up by being rushed through the natural development stages that societies go through, from our pre-colonial village lifestyles into the modern world. Europeans had the benefit of being able to move through those development phases naturally but in Africa, colonialism forced us through the process quickly and I don't think we have learnt to internalize it to a degree where we're able to take charge of things.
Medieval Europe was just as bad if not worse than many of our slums, where wazungu were throwing sewage out of their 2nd floor windows out onto the street, but through the centuries, they built and rebuilt their cities to the standard they are today. I don't know what it will take we Africans to get to a similar level! And not to say that our cities have to look exactly like European ones, but at least let us get to a level where one can see well thought out planning and adherence to zoning laws.
Somalis will turn Nairobi to Mogadishu
Y can't they build Massionates like before.... kilimanii inakaa vibaya sana
It's already a slum
😂😂 ask me the price of house in kilimani and the sum ntv have quoted 😂😂😂😂😂
Kenya shida is constantly putting useless individuals in power wanaiba pesa then mnashindwa mbona nothing is moving forward..alafu mnacheka na wazungu wengine wajinga mkidinywa proper in all sectors hadi roads
YOU SHOULD HAVE ELECTED A GOVERNOR WHO COMES FROM THE REGION NOT FROM OTHER FAR REGIONS. EITHER A KAMBA A MAASAI OR KIKUYU TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE COUNTIES BOARDING NAIROBI. OTHERWISE IN NEAR FUTURE WILL HAVE A SLAM CALLED NAIROBI AS YOUR CAPITAL CITY. KIDERO CLAIMED TO BE A NAIROBIAN HE LOOTED FROM THE CITY AND TOOK HIS LOOT TO HIS ORIGINAL REGION AND COUNTY (ANCESTRAL) TO START AFRESH. DO NOT GET CHEATED.
Shenzi Nairobi is not a tribal village, stop having myopic thinking, sonko mkamba alifanya nini Nairobi? Hii Nairobi si ya mtu, you are just a tribalist unaongelea kidero na sonko days were worse
Colonialists did a much better job of planning Nairobi than any other successive govt after independence. Planning a city has nothing to do with ethnic extraction. Secondly and most importantly a Governor does not single handedly run a city. Even MCAs can hold the governor at random and mess up the direction of development of a city. Most of MCA I see across the board. The term "city fathers" gad a meaning. They were mainly people who had already made it in life and were only keen on improving cities under their jurisdiction. The current city leaders are mostly, broke and also corrupt thugs with village mentality without any goals beyond "eating".
Kamba governor foolish thinking
So wanataka niwasaidie aje