Were Ancient Egyptians black? SCIENTIFIC PROOF
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2023
- What race were the Pharaohs?
SHOCKING AND IRONIC RESULTS of a study made on mummies that settled the debate on the race of ancient Egyptians for good!
Scientific proof that Ancient Egyptians were not black or a central/western African race and were a race of their own that is similar to Eastern and Mediterranean races.
You can read more about the study on the University of Tubingen's website.
Citations
Study results summary:
www.nature.com/articles/ncomm...
More in depth technical info:
www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073...
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...
Mumford, G. D. Egypt and the Levant, The Oxford Handbook of the Archaeology of the Levant: c. 8000-332 BCE Oxford (2014).
#ancientegyptians #pharoahs #cleopatra #cleopatrashow #afrocentric #egyptians #egypt #blackwashing #egyptianpeople - บันเทิง
I'm Arab and I don't think its fair ... If we take DNA samples it has to be from the oldest mummy's and from different areas in Egypt not just one area
What does "Arab" mean?
@@user-iq5xb5kd3m its race just like any other race
@@salahali9793 WRONG MY BROTHER( I assume you are male): The word Arab simply means (Semi-)-Nomad(One who "moves" around not wandering aimlessly,but with specific destinations in lands they claim as their own)+:It doesnt mean U speak Arabic( Aaraabiyah= "Lordly" control of the flow of movement' "in this case of the tongue" thus=Eloquent speech );both come from the same root the letters R/"RAA" + B/"BAA" #If U live on the peninsula known as Arabia,U may call Yourself Arabian wether you speak Arabic or not & wether you are a nomad or not ; You don't properly name a People after a language ( perhaps the other way around)#My People built the(thus we are) U.S.(citizens) born and raised on the continent known as America makes Us American but it is NOT AN ETHNICITY #If U speak Arabic it doesn't mean U are an necessarily An Ishmaelite (seed of Ismaa'il) > Security+Blessings
That is culture. Not race. 😊
@@shimmer4771 In fact, they are a race and a culture
Imagine taking a study of American DNA from 1900, then claiming it proves Native Americans were White. 😂
@daniele.3361 Reread my comment.
@daniele.3361 stop it please
@daniele.3361clearly is naive if you really talk to people that pull dna you will learn we can’t get dna from ancient Egyptians sources will lie for clout all different sources say different things
Right!! 💯 😂😂😂😂
She's right
"Study done in 2017 by two German Universities examines the dna of 160 Egyptian mummies whose lifespan over 1300 time period. This was the period that Egypt was heavily conquered. The results were shocking! First of all they found that they genes of ancient Egyptians resembled Eastern and Mediterranean people"
She just explained why the results were so "shocking" it was conquered lol
heavily conquered yet zero mixing? Wow what nice conquerors!
@@514ExcNo there was some mixing for sure . However the overwhelming majority of modern day Egyptians are descendants of ancient Egyptians.
And in fact , not one single invasion in North Africa,did ever have any policy of driving out native peoples . Hyksos were pushed out later . Persians, greeks , romans, Arabs and ottomans NEVER had any policy of driving any population out . And none of these invasions was actually very violent .
Why do modern egyptians speak Arabic?! The same way that Sudanese people also speak Arabic. Bc they were Arabized .
If I'm not mistaken, that 2017 study recovered about 160 mummies, but only about 3 of those mummies could be DNA tested. The mummies were all from one burial-site, and that location is in Lower Egypt (or in the North); additionally, the mummies were dated to between the New Kingdom and the Roman Period. So, 3 specimens from an area known for foreign settlement, from late eras known for the heavy influx of immigrants and invaders. Idk, the study doesn't seem to be as conclusive as some ppl are suggesting. Egypt was a grand civilization; it attracted large streams of immigration, and was conquered multiple times, with Alexander the Great even encouraging Greeks to move there. The way this study is used to deny a black Egypt would be like me saying pre-colonial California was clearly comprised of indigenous Chinese-related ppl, because I DNA tested 3 (out of 160) bodies from a 19th century burial site in San Francisco.
ROFL Mikegautheir4723 she is lying in this video write down the time frame she states the mummies are from, then look for the articles and you will see the mummies timewise are after the Roman occupation. People on TH-cam can post anything, TH-cam or Reddit, Or Quora wont fact check or ask their qualifications.
@daniele.3361 Daniele.3361 she did not provide a link to the article because all the mummies are after the Roman Occupation, which is closer to use timewise than to Narmer. Think United States if they find skeletons and do DNA time frame is going to be important. Because all her arguments are based original Egyptians before the Hyksos, Greek, Roman, and Arab invasions.
Is it about the mummies only?! So not abt the features the colors, the traditions the food the fests anything else?!
@daniele.3361were you do realize how hard it is to get a full sample lol reason it took 160 to get 3. Like why is it so surprising that Africans in Africa were in ancient Egypt. If you’ve ever been to the pyramids inside you will notice clearly black paintings that they try to say is sunburn.
@@radwaelshehry2679 Now Rad I have a history degree, one of my classes I took Ancient Egypt fact check me!!! White Nile, Blue Nile, Black or Red Nile all start in Uganda, or Ethiopia. Papyrus of hunefer " We came from the beginning of the Nile, where the God Hapi Dwells" The Egyptians are not as mysterious as the Olmecs. They have writings that survived, they tell you where they came from.
As soon as she said “German university” all credibility was lost.. 😂😂
DNA test is empirical! You were never part of Egypt. Sorry guys! They lied to you!
😂😂😂😂😂
We wuz Kangz and sheet
@@professionalretard6875 you bet!!!
@@professionalretard6875 wakanda 😂🤣🤡
The greater irony is that African Americans are heavenly mixed with Europeans and native Americans genetically and culturally they are the furthest even from west Africa
YESS !!
They aren't the furthest genetically to West Africans. An elements of their modern cultures are from West African cultures. Plus many of them take pride in their true heritage.
@@admirekashiri9879 genetically they aren't look up there dna tests on TH-cam or real life data studies african americans have about 25% 30 % of there dna from other parts of the world so yeah not very african.
I won't even comment on the culture thing just ask west african if they consider african Americans culturally similar
@@mohameddarwish5272 Yea I've seen some DNA tests of people like Meek Mill which is considered a dark African American and hes mixed with all sorts of African (none of them North African btw) and also a bit of Asian and European. Nobody is really pure blooded African over there unless they're first or second generation immigrants
@@itsnouryy look up the 1974 UNESCO conference in Cairo. Africans said they were black not African Americans ?
None of those Pharaoh status look LIKE ARABS
No they look Egyptian. Its literally smack against Israel. Why don't any other arab countries in Africa look black? Same reason most places around the world until modern time's look unique. Its common sense, why does everything need to be rewritten to meet some political motive.
@@NostGold huh so their are people of European decent not from Africa etc.. that are black? in the times of ancient Egypt? Honestly I wasn't aware of them. Yes Egyptians look a specific way, just as Japanese and Chinese etc.. You would not find egpyt typically a pharo that was black, people who say there was diversity are changing history to fit an agenda.
@@NostGold I believe the Egyptian experts know what they are talking about. The court case by Egyptians is a valid issue since it was sold as a documentary. Egypt wasn't black, Cleopatra wasn't black she was European.
@@user-zv9um9pb6w so by your logic, anything that's produced in a 'documentary' must be the truth! Please, for the sake of humanity, don't reproduce.
@@NostGold I don't believe in the Woke religion. I have looked at many photos , statues etc.. have not seen one that's black yet. What I have seen is Egyptan, and what the experts have been saying for some time (baring and solid evidence showing diff) that there was much less black genetics that woke cult believes was present. you are welcome to believe whatever you want. I personally don't care what race egpyt was, its not my country. My people where their for a little while and we where slaves but we move on both mentally and physically.
She’s so happy to report this 😂
Because she knows when mixing with Africans from invading Egypt their race got mixed!😂😂😂
See the link below for a video that references multiple DNA Studies of Ancient Egyptians, the Ancient Egyptians were Black African people. Also, keep in mind that the Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves as Black people, painting themselves with various shades of DARK BROWN skin, Black African hair, nose, lips, and facial bone structure.
th-cam.com/video/BQpsdxgpg4k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dOYcKXHIMO-u8PZV
And wrong 😂😂😂
Fraudulent
I would be too if Africans have been trying to take away from my ancestors identity.
Ancient Egypt and Egypt today is big difference. Saying that Egyptians weren't black due to science when the truth is written on the wall? Literally the Egyptian walls portraying black people the rest to come after are arab and turks eg European.
The tomb paintings show the ancient Egyptians were not black sub-Saharan Africans. The Old Kingdom statues demonstrate clearly that the ancient Egyptians were not black sub-Saharan Africans. DNA testing on ancient Egyptian mummies confirms that the ancient Egyptians had very little sub-Saharan African DNA.
@@Tiber2017 Then why are they shown all different shades of black in the Egyptian pyramid and walls just like the Bonampek pyramid murals in Mexico, they portray black people with all different shades with dreads and braids all the way to jet black. Do you know Egypt is literally in the continent of Africa? But is close to Saudi Arabia. So saying Egyptian people share no DNA or culture with the rest of it's own continent (AFRICA) is absolutely delusional? That's like saying the Australians are the real owners and custodians of Australia denying the Aboriginal their culture and land.
Osiris was green😃? Isis was white Nefertiti wasn't black.
Egyptian civilization has been claimed by
Jewish people
Europeans
Arabs
Levantine
Africans
Atlantis
Mayans
Aliens
Everyone in the close proximity of Egypt has laid claims to it but the actual Egyptians.
It is so weird that everyone else speaks on behalf of your ancestors while you are set aside and disregarded, the disrespect is infuriating. Its like we don't exist.
You can't take Egypt and its heritage from us because it is us.
Egypt for Egyptians ❤🇪🇬🇪🇬
Africans?
@@cynthiadagama9303 she probably meant black africans
@@cynthiadagama9303 i meant african American afrocentrists to be exact, no one on mainland africa even cares about this
Not the Mayans wtf
It only makes sense that they were black. The environment fits them better. There's a reason why Europeans are white. The environment made them look that way over time.
Also the genes being unchanged for such a long time doesn't make sense.
Every state that was conquered faced r words and had immigration to some extent. Especially when we see how a place like America was full of native Americans and now barely have any. So we see how quick the ethnicity of an area could change.
@@kooldawg that's what I said
@@lightstar1053 lmao I replied to the wrong comment my fault 💀
@@kooldawg it's cool
I can understand wanting to take the Ancient Egyptian narrative as your own because you live in modern day Egypt.
BUT, NO CULTURE on the face of the earth remained where they were since 5000 - 3000BC.
If you actually visit the pyramids there are an awful lot … AN AWFUL LOT of dark skinned figures/sculptures with dark African body structure.
People may not choose to be ignorant.
But people definitely choose to REMAIN ignorant.
These comments got me dead. Wait till they google and find out where on the map of africa egypt is 💀💀
Its hilarious I know! 😂😂😂
Wait till black Americans find out where West Africa is. They look stupid af trying to claim they have links to Egypt, which is on the other side. Black Americans, your ancestors were from West Africa, where they were sold by their fellow Africans to Europeans. Cope.
We know where it is. Unfortunately you have these “pan African” pookies who justify anything 😂
The real funny people are y’all to be honest… Egypt is Africa, in a dessert in scotching sun- only a black person would survive there
2. They literally left sculptors and paintings of themselves! LITERALLY! With DIFFERENT SHADES of colours- which means they knew what they were doing painting themselves black
3.People who’s ancestors that never left Egypt tell you ancient Egyptians were BLACK&BROWN
4. Their BLACK NOSES were shot off. If not for hiding evidence then WHY?
but yeah let’s test a few people in a small region living together to confirm the WHOLE POPULATION Of the COUNTRY
y’all retarded if anything and mostly funny as hell to us, y’all are clowns man
Right just look at the map! It was Black smfh these people need to just accept the Truth
The walls on the Egyptian tombs say otherwise.😂
Their brown people not black. Black people you see on the walls are Nubians.
@@iHeartAddie how do you know they are Nubians and not Egyptians. Both tribes have the same forefathers.
@@iHeartAddie LOL I'm Afrikan and the only Black (which are not really Black but very Dark Brown) people I ever saw were the people of the Nuba Hill and some in India, The rest of the people I see on the wall next to them are other Afrikans who are my color.
@@iHeartAddie u realize black people are not actually black right 😂
@@iHeartAddie "brown" people don't exist. They were black.
Why do arabs feel so uncomfortable with the fact that they are not indigenous to North Africa? There is more than enough evidence that they are not ancient people of Kemet.
Why do people want to force sth that is not true on them though 🤔 😂😂🇪🇬
They weren't white I'll tell you that
The weren’t Arab
Did we say we are white, we aren't white,yet aren't black we have tanned skin, the life isn't just black and white, you'll see it in the statue of Nefertiti 👍😃
@@EGYPTIAN_PRO_PALESTINIAN
Your totally right
I'm an Egyptian just like you and whenever I try to tell anyone the real history all they say is is the same bullshit (sorry for my bad grammar)
لو عايز/عايزه اتكلم مصري يبقى اسهل
@@rimadivashow2333 مش هيعرفوا يعملوا حاجة، القضية الفلسطينية إنتشرت زي النار فالهشيم بسبب الإنترنت، فلو مصر أحتلت هيحصل أيه؟ كمان أحنا أكتر من مية مليون و معانا العرب و المسلمين و ممكن روسيا و الصين، دي شوية ناس تعبانة و مش هيعرفوا يعملوا حاجة.👍🏻
@@EGYPTIAN_PRO_PALESTINIAN
معاك حق في كل كلمه بس الصراحه عندهم قدرة استفزاز رهيبه جدا يعني
يارب يولعو كلهم بجاز وس/خ
The study you are referring to, the Levant mummies, was already DEBUNKED years ago, shortly after it came out.
Using DNA from an era, post ancient Egypt and from one specific location in Northern Egypt that was known to be settled by foreigners and then coming to a conclusion about ancient Egyptians, is not scientific proof.
This makes as much sense as going to an Irish cemetery in Boston, digging up bones from 1950 and then concluding that the "US" population was Irish in 1100 AD.
There is no levantine mummies ignorant it is all about education which the afro americans never know abt their whole life
There has been no such debunking. What it shows is the genetics of northern Egyptian populations 2000 years ago
We have also yet to find any subsaharan mummies. I wonder why.
@@roarsarch201 no need to be racist.
@@johnmonteiro5825Thats not true you just havent done enough unbiased research... i usually like to break you guys down bit by bit...but you should simply look up the ancient Kemetic Hieroglyph for face. and not what a bunch of biased foreigners say. The simple fact that they are still going around desacrating tombs looking for clues show thise arent their ancestors no culture digs up their royal ancestors and sells them to foreigners to put in their museum's
Yeah yeah, to bad that this study, despite criticism, was later confirmed by a new study from 2021
Im sorry but has common sense left the building?!? Did you hear yourself?
"the mummy was from a period when Egpyt was heavily conquered"
So how can they ensure these mummies are that of original Egyptians?!?! They would have to use mummies from the old kingdom, not during the time of invasion
😂😂 yep. The sources were not clear.
@@charms679 at all 😄... 🤦
@@christinabarcelona6071she’s an agent for iconoclasm unknowingly or knowingly
😂
It's really not that deep... There's more proof that Ancient Egyptians were not black than proof of them being black. that's it. That's the gathered proof. This testing is the gathered proof. If you wanna go and find proof that they were black, go ahead, prove her wrong, but just saying things like, "Do you hear yourself?" is not going to help.
They did DNA tests. And yea ancient Egyptians were descendants from eastern nomads and middle eastern dna. Subsaharan dna didnt get introduced into egypt heavily until 1,000 years ago. So yea not black and thats ok guys
Lies. It just went back to how it was supposed to be. This study she named is flawed already and got debunked TWICE by many people. But back to your point. Pre dynastic and the first dynasties were black. The ones that taught the Greeks were black(the Greeks themselves said that). The pre dynastic Egyptians literally tell us where they are from. THE NILE VALLEY. And their language also started near the Great Lake. Which was DEFINITELY BLACK.
No they were black. Pre dynastic Egypt proves it. Look into where THEY say they come from and how people that saw them (Greeks) described them.
Incorrect, the yes only pulls dna from recent times bc we have no way to test earlier settlers/ inhabitants. The test uses skulls that are 100-100s but yet Egypt has been around for thousands and in the article she’s using it literally tells us that we have no proof from earlier settlers saying they were middle eastern and that this has led many to believe they may have been black. Norderney Egyptians don’t even look like ancient ones
The instant I saw her face, I knew she was going to whitewash😂
True, but they also state that the study was only taken from one centralized part of Egypt and in other places the makeup of the people probably looked different. Also The mummies used were from the New Kingdom and a later period and not further back.
Exactly!
😂 doesnt matter what evidence is shown to you. Its always lacking unless it sounds in your echo chamber
@@antonioyeats2149 She could have said exactly the same to you 😅😅😅😅😅
You bring up a good point. We need more studies. However, it shows there were ancient Middle Eastern types in Egypt though some try to claim if you look Middle Eastern you're not a descendant. Also, the Fayyum portraits also show Middle Eastern looking people from a different region than those mummies. And overlapping with modern Egyptians. Also, the FBI extracted maternal DNA from Djehutynakht who was from the Middle Kingdom. At least on his mother's side he was Eurasian. It shows ancient Eurasians settled there thousands of years ago prior to the Arabs. Also Old Kingdom royal couple Prince Rahotep and his wife Nofret also look similar to Eurasians. They were clearly a mixed people who shouldn't be categorized as a certain race to fit anyone's agenda and people have to stop rudely calling modern Egyptians as not connected to Middle Eastern people. The evidence of ancient Eurasians is clear enough.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS yep, agreed, evidence has shown that they were mixed, with many different skin tones & features including African, especially ancient Egypt.
The time frame you mentioned was about a thousand years. Therefore, you are looking at roughly from the 19th Egyptian dynasty. By this time Egypt had been taken over by Greco-Romans. To solidify your argument, you would need to examine the DNA of mummies from earlier dynasties. Many of the wall paintings of Egyptian show people depicted with two distinct skin tones. One was reddish, and the other was black. The facial features of the ruler depicted in the Sphinx, the nose in particular, is more typical of people with central African Bantu lineage. Many of the West and East African peoples have some Bantu or Congo in their lineage, as do North Africans. Interestingly, the Aztecs in the America's also built pyramids. A lot of the ancient Aztecs have Black African features. I can not say authoritatively that those that have your position are wrong. However, I believe that most present-day Egyptians are mixed race as are other North Africans. It makes sense because of their geographical location. They have intermarried Arabs and Europeans over time. The important fact is that present-day Egyptian have mainland African lineage.
they never do the study of 700 BC +.
The nose of the Sphinx is gone. 😃😃 Lmao
@@samthesomniatorthat doesn't change the fact that the top comment is 100% correct
the 19th dynasty is still under native administration, the last of the egyptian dynasty is the 26th yet that's not close to foriegn colonization. Your timeline is wrong as hell....
Before i go Unchenn she is lying in the video mummies were after the Roman occupation. Shocks at what TH-cam allows.
Ancient Egyptians were East African and later got invaded by Persians, than Greeks( cleoplatra) than Roman’s than Arab Islam ☪️
Imagine being so confused you don't hear your own contradictory statements in such a short video. 😂😂😂
So you doubled down on your own ignorance...in protest of "black" people claiming SOME cultural heritage of Kemet?...instead of just researching your own culture....Upper( southern) Egypt established, conquered, and UNITED Lower(Northern)Egypt. The rest is history. The oral, written hieroglyphic, history even disagree with you. Kemet was literally THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of years old by the time of your beloved Cleopatra was even queen of the country not even ethnically her own.....the truth is the truth. Modern Egyptians have a right to be proud of their history, but to exclude the contributions and foundations of Africans south of the Sahara is ludicrous. You are doing exactly what you are accusing Netflix of doing! by overlooking "black" people and not even at least including them in the conversation is white washing or watever you want to call it. There are literally thousands of years of proof. Kemet(Egypt) would be considered a colony of Nubia(Sudan)....and the people who still and have always lived in these lands you claim as your own
...look nothing like you. Sorry but its the truth...i think youd have a bigger impact on this topic if you INCLUDED the contributions and history of people south of the Sahara to Egyptian culture, rather than trying to create a separate identity...thats why you receive so much back lash because you come across as someone obsessed with race, ethnicity, and or "color". We as "black" people accept people that look as "olive" as you do because in America mixed race people with any African dna are still considered black...we arent as ignorant as you are TRYING to lead other people to believe nor do we obsesse over phenotypes as you do, we know all colors come from us. Hell we could care less if she looked like you or looked like whoever else. She was an African queen who happened to be ethnically Macedonian, more important were her deeds and role in World history...which unfortunately includes ALL of us sorry if this offends your sense of entitlement of something not even remotely unique to you or your "people". American "black" people want no beef with you mam. Sure some people are ignorant of themselves and their own history but that isnt true for everybody as a whole. I'll even go as far as apologize on their behalf. But to disregard the facts because someone is or was rude to you only proves there are 2 fools. Peace & Blessings Nora, i still respect your points of views even if we disagree on some of them. I dont even think ur a racist but You have to be able to respond unemotional and intelligently to emotional and unintelligent people. Please stop making this a "black" vs "egyptian" argument, its divisive and doesn't further the conversation at all. The real question is who owns Netflix, the museums authors and stolen artifacts that profit and perpetuated this ignorance in the first place?!
@daniele.3361 false
I always find it funny why I have to be labeled as some crayon color 😂
Literally!!! 😂
Heard a comedian say once to go to home Depot paint department to find your color! More options lol
Don't limit yourself to a crayon box
American idea of race is the dumbest of all.
😂😂😂 o god XD
but in almost all egyptian hieroglyphs, they've depicted themselves as black/brown skinned.
They also depicted sub saharan Africans clearly differently to themselves who were brown, much like they are today. Not black sub saharan but tanned and lighter skinned.
@@PNJB_R Egyptians always depicted themselves as brown skinned just like sub sahara Africans are today. What’s your point? Most so called North Africans of today are white because Saudi Arabians are white and they invaded Africa. It’s well known. Just look up Arab conquest
@@PNJB_RGive it up, we were in Egypt before any grafted race existed.
ancient egyptians were... egyptian, they grew out of many "industries' and cultures in the acheological sense and state capacity increased with population boom
@@randompost4180😂 do you even know how ancient egyptians depicted BLACK people? Look it up, you wont like it.
She sounds illiterate
Because she's not as racist as you?
That test was taken from a local area. There is a reason why certain people who came to Egypt chopped off the noses on the statues.
There is no other people came to egypt or chopped anything you are just brainwashed
Yes, religious superstition
Proof? Or BIG FUCKING COPE
Aww look it’s baby’s first trip into history. Broken noses on statues are a thing because they literally stick out. If a statue topples forward, what hits first? The nose. If it rains and rains, what erodes off first? The nose. It’s the same reason a lot of statues are missing arms. You would have a point if it happened only to Egyptian statues, but it happens to Greek and Roman and Sumerian and Indian and literally every culture’s statues too. If someone really didn’t like the statue of a person, they would just destroy the statue and not chop off its nose and call it a day.
@@Chooopyokay but what about the wall ,nubians?😂😂😂😂
Days are coming that all those questions will be laid to rest. There will be no debating just sheer disbelief
Yup
Them days are here...age of AQUARIUS aka the age of knowing 🤘🏾
Says the descendant of the invaders…😂😅😂
This video is the biggest coping mechanism I have ever seen
No, she is just talking about her ancestry. You are the one coping
@@johnmonteiro5825 That is not her ancestry. He real Egyptians are further South.
She's not even even talking about about her 'ancestry'.
She's using an ancestry that's not even hers to begin with to push her stupid racism.
These guys aren't Egyptian, anthropology shows it. So just move on and talk about the Arabs or something.
@@silusmkhwananzi3121 it is her ancestry. The northern, coastal population of Egypt has remained relatively unchanged for thousands of years. This particular study predates the Arab invasion historical revisions usually cling to.
@@johnmonteiro5825 Actually the study Actually does prove that Changed have taken place.
Because the very same study literally states, at the end, that one location was used. And none of the mummies Actually come from the old kingdom. This is literally in the study
Cope.
@@johnmonteiro5825 They only reason why they care is because of tourism. But there are not related.
At one point they even planned to destroy the pyramids, but stopped because it was expensive. They were literally selling Mummies in streets to Europeans and defaming them.
They literally call themselves , the 'Arab' Republic of Egypt.
Modern day egyptians carry the north african E strain, more specifically the E-M78 + V-22, basically the very exact same strain that has always been dominant in Egypt since ancient times and all the dna studies proves this again and again.
Yesss tell them !! 🙏🏼
@@itsnouryy I am egyptian to and I have been combating these american culture vultures since 2007, they are like orchs, monsters ready to pillage and destroy all of north Africa but we are ready for them. Take care ya okhty and keep up the good fight.
Excerpt from Wiki: "Haplogroup E-V68, also known as E1b1b1a, is a major human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup found in North Africa (Egypt), the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia), Western Asia (Syria) and Europe (Greece). It is a subclade of the larger and older haplogroup, known as E1b1b or E-M215 (also roughly equivalent to E-M35)."
@@mstr293 bless u bro, keep up the good fight against those afrocentric culture vultures.
Modern day egyptians? U mean the arabs??? 😂😂😂😂. Scientist DID NOT TEST MODERN DAY EGYPTIANS for an reason. Africans occupied egypt from the 1st-18th century. This back n forth is out of hand you refuse facts you do know they have bought in scholar internationally to debate this topic and time after time its the same result black!!!!
Lol. This "new study" on the genetic origins of Egypt is actually CAP. There have been several other studies on Egyptian DNA done YEARS BEFORE this study. These studies found that Ancient Egyptians had close genetic ties to East Africans-Somalis, Ethiopians, etc. This is consistent with the mythology of the ancients themselves. They said they came from the land of Punt-which was in modern-day Somalia.
So many people throw the word "study" around like confetti and they have no idea what it means.
You are janjaweeds
DNA scope, volume and accuracy has taken quantum leaps since 2015. All prior genetic studies can be entirely discarded
@@Crumbsyums yeah I bet you want to "discard" research that doesn't fir the narrative you're trying to push how euro/arab centric of you to do so.
@@Crumbsyumsexcept, the study this person id referring to was done 7 YEARS PRIOR. Its not even 20 years old. Lol. They were black. How tf werent people in AFRICA...BLACK?
Circumcision Afro-hair, The style of clothing, Their farming methods.
These are all from Africa.
But not from SUBSAHARAN Africa.
If the ancient egyptians were not black, explain why ancient egyptian combs look exactly like afro combs of today?
The ancient Egyptians painted themselves in their hieroglyphs as having reddish brown skin, while they painted Nubians (which are black) as having almost purely black skin
That's how the combs in Asia look as well so your theory is out the window
You should check out the ranga fro fuzzy wuzzy hair of the English.. my uncle's white and his hair is a ranga fuzzy wuzzy stand on its own fro
Lol afro hair is afro and very different to " other afro "
@@Ponchitograndito when did they stop wearing the afro wigs or twist wigs 😂
People that look like you can't even stand in the Sun for 5 hours without worrying about putting on sunscreen😂
F A C T S
I say this all the time
If she was in the sun more she would get tan and adjust to it. As for me, I can't last 10min. But hey, I'm killin' it in the snow.😂
Ummm as an Arab. Do u think syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan weather is like Europes?. We live in deserts son, we rode camels 🤣
Lies. I work in the sun for 6 days a week 12hrs a day and have never used sunscreen. After your first sunburn u tan 😂😂😂😂
You didn't actually read the report from 2017 and it shows.
"It is possible that populations in the south of Egypt were more closely related to those of Nubia and had a higher sub-Saharan genetic component, in which case the argument for an influx of sub-Saharan ancestries after the Roman Period might only be partially valid and have to be nuanced. Throughout Pharaonic history there was intense interaction between Egypt and Nubia, ranging from trade to conquest and colonialism, and there is compelling evidence for ethnic complexity within households with Egyptian men marrying Nubian women and vice versa51,52,53. Clearly, more genetic studies on ancient human remains from southern Egypt and Sudan are needed before apodictic statements can be made."
Mind you all the animals used in hieroglyphs are overwhelmingly Sub-saharan animals, not animals from the Levant. Why would you base a language off of animals NOT in your ARAB region. You develop language with things that are familiar to you.
The Levant has bears - no bears in hieroglyphs (correction) bears are extremely rare in hieroglyphs - there's an image of what they think is a bear on a thrown and it's most likely from a later period.
Hippos, crocodiles, elephants, giraffe, baboons, rhinos which equals the language developed in the SOUTH just like the Nile originates in Ethiopia and Uganda. Sub-saharan people create sub-saharan written languages.
@Sun Flower This study was done in Middle Egypt, its common sense that the southern egyptians would have more sub saharan ancesty but even today after vastly increased travel egyptians are on average 9% sub saharan african. They definitely had and still have sub sharan ancesty, not a signifigant amount though and surely they werent black on average. North Africans in other studies take Morrocco for example 100% had a sub saharan dna pulse between 700-900AD, its baseless to say the average Egyptian anywhere was black
@@chrispapaleo4022 first off 7,000 years ago there was no Sahara. 7,000 years ago was the middle of the younger dryas period when the are was wetter and hospitable. People moved with animals. Area dried up and the black people moved back south. Every time they do these mummy studies they use the new kingdom rather than old. Why? Because the father back they go the blacker Egypt gets.
@@chrispapaleo4022 the average Egyptian today are the byproduct of the black Egyptians who stuck around mixed with invading Arabs and Greeks. They are not the original people. Murals and images are everywhere, and they depict black people. Egypt is at least 9,000 years old. Grabbing mummies from the last 1300 years says nothing. That’s post invaders. How can it be said they have Levantine DNA and then you say they’re the original, their DNA by definition is outside DNA. Like I said only africans would come up with an african language using animals that are majority in sub saharan Africa. There are no hippos rhinos giraffes crocs or baboons in the Levantine or Europe, so we know up with hieroglyphs.
@@chrispapaleo4022 How would you explain the 36% “black” ancestry in the Proto-Amazigh samples from Taforalt. They even carried the E1b1b haplogroup associated with the spread of the Afro-Asiatic language family, which originated in the Horn of Africa. How do you explain Berber and Chadic languages being the most related when Chadic speakers are exclusively “black”? How do you explain the 6% “black” ancestry in the Natufians? Egypt was black, which is why “scholars” have spent centuries pretending that it wasn’t. Champollion, widely regarded as the father of Egyptology, would also agree.
Stop lying to yourself all you have to do is look at Ramses mummy he has straight thin hair and high bridged nose. Look at the Muriel’s of all the yellow coloured women with straight hair. Stop being a culture vulture it’s vile and sad that you have to steal someone else’s history to feel better about yourselves.
Ok, well, go inside those pyramids that are thousands of years old, and the picture on the walls are Black people.
@Toivo58479 The alien speaks
@daniele.3361 really now. If you dont know they were Black you should not be commenting on a topic you are clearly ignorant of
The people in all the egyptian tombs are brown reddish and light brown people exactly as the egyptians of today not like you
@@AlexKuro_ You are speaking about things you're clearly ignorant about. The pyramid builders and the builders of ancient Egypt was not Greco-Romans, Turks, Arabs or European. They were black skin wooly hair Africans wearing braids, afro and loincloth; That description only fits black skin Africans... People like you keep confusing Ancient Egypt with colonized Egypt( Greek, Roman, Byzantines, Ottomans, Turks, Arabs, Europeans) Modern Egypt is just as modern USA, Chile, Argentina, Australia and white Apartheid South Africa. The natives of these lands were either decimated, displaced or relegated to protective reservations
@@SalmAndrew no, they were brown like the current population of Egypt
What you are spreading is racist revisionism against the native Egyptians
Very hot in Egypt, no suntan lotion wasn't invented yet 😂
Can anyone tell me what "black" is???
You could pass for a Hispanic or Latina in America.
I do get mistaken for Latina a lot btw
@@itsnouryy If you lived in Arizona you would...
@@Cedricbennettjr that’s understandable i guess I do see the resemblance
@@itsnouryy No disrespect... That is my point... My question is, what is your "race"?
@@Cedricbennettjr we dont have race in Egypt we have nationality and it’s Egyptian
"Period in which... heavily invaded". Madam, your hypocrisy is comical. Lmao.
How?
He wants to harass a woman about who she is, so I’m thinking he might be an Incel
The study shows primarily Middle Eastern ancestry, not Greek or Roman. The study was from the New Kingdom or before the Greek period up to the Roman period and the ancestry was mostly Middle Eastern. What hypocrisy? Anyway, a governor named Djehutynakt from the Middle Kingdom was also found to have Eurasian ancestry. This was extract by the FBI, not from this study. Middle Kingdom is long before the Greeks. That means people who looked like Nora existed in ancient Egypt.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS the was post invasion from 1,300 year's ago
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS NOT!!!!! DIOP DID A STUDY FOR melanin content and found they were AFRACOID and she said they were taken over she used the term SUB SAHARNAN that term had not been invented yet her dates are and you are too you don't pay attention so I had to clean you up
Calling us natives & Indians then making a law to reclassify Natives as coloured folks aka African Americans is crazy
Copts are the descendants of Ancient Egyptians. They are not black.
Copts are not descendant of ancient Egyptians, they came much later.
Yet can't speak the language
Coptic came to Egypt much later. It is the black Egyptians who taught pythagoras mathematics.
@@Animalsandwildlife.7527 Exactly Coptics came way later, they are not the original egyptians.
@@Animalsandwildlife.7527 , bullsh*t
On the behalf of the rest of Africa, we do not care if you don’t want to be African.
Pretty sure they do but racist idiots can't fathom that there are native Africans who aren't black. It's a big damn continent
FACTS BUT we do want you to move out
Ooga booga
@@peppapickmeishayou the one that look like a ghost . Not our fault ur genetically inferior
That's why they depict themselves as black skinned in all their tomb paintings. You're trying to tell them how they looked yet they've already told you themselves.
Yea they have told us .. they showed us the “black” and the Egyptians side by side and clearly identified the differences
@@itsnouryy Lady the egyptians showed themselves in a range of colors from light tan to" black" with most of them brown to reddish brown. They showed the nubians in a range of colors from light brown to dark "black" with mid-brown - or reddish brown being common. The art from the Tomb of Huy is a perfect example. And "black " people are mostly shades of brown or reddish brown not actual "black" although dark skinned blacks exist. Nubians also are shown in a range of facial features looking like Egyptians, and Nubians themselves painted themselves like this. Quit acting like black egyptians were fictional just cause some were from the Levant..Black Africans didnt stop at Sudan when coming north and Egyptian history goes back further than 1300 bc
@@itsnouryy Maybe you should just admit you descended from black people, it'll be more believable. I mean if your skin was 2 shades darker, you'd be labeled black bc for a fact your nose passes as negroid no matter how many times you deny it. I can assure you, take a trip to the source of the Nile or southern Africa and you'll find that your nose is closer to that than anything.
FACTS and they sure did not look like this Greek woman.
@@Johnny_McClintockNobody said that. That’s who the Nubians were. See a lot of y’all Tyrekes and Mookeys skipped class but wanna come flexin your GED 🤷🏾♀️
Can’t be that goofy. They took 160 mummies from the time of Roman ,Greek and Persian occupation 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 Sudan's black
Musa is black
Jesus is black too they come from there.
As a white person my father told me they were black.
Your father was a wise man
A person who doesn't study is often referred to as misinformed . The ignorance continue...... So sad
Tell us more homes.
Lol she's Egyptian y'all wanna be royalty so bad it's funny how y'all pretend that y'all are related to Egyptians so lol again you're ignorance does continue
😄 if these people are who they say they are then why don't they acknowledge their connection with Kemet being in America 🤷🏾♂️ LOL The Afrocentric Community Does.... Why Don't They Talk About Their PLACE OF ORIGIN....
🤣📢 The Afrocentric Community Does
I DARE YOU TO TAKE A DNA TEST AND SHARE IT ON YOUR CHANNEL.
😂 I Dare Her To Take That Hand Out Of Her Back
😂😂😂😂notice how they no longer use the example of that actor raimek or something???(forget his name)it's because his dna was all over...Roman, Greek...Arab...but he says he's copy.so that should tell u something
@@wambokodavid7109 Nahhh Bruh, check this out. Tell me why this same broad was in the Comment Section last week making claims that Rap Music Originated In The Middle East with the A-Rabs 🙄
She's not going to do a DNA test, because it's going to show that she has Arab ancestry, then she's going to have to stop pretending she's Egyptian.
@@DC_R ha😂😂😂
Nah, I don’t care about what some European universities say, Egypt is in Africa so what are you saying… The proof is in what was left behind. Quit this madness.
Thats arrogance,Well Russia is in aisa , and arabian peninsula is in Asia,so? Africa ain't a street so you'll make all its people black, we also live away from the Equatorial area in deserts and Egypt is transcontinental not just in Africa, also we live in the middle east, and we lie in the middle of the three continents, and we're Mediterranean.
@@EGYPTIAN_PRO_PALESTINIANgo to Sudan
@@Blackowl44 "go to sudan" yeah and ?
Egypt IS transcontinental..it has parts in Asia
@@HamedAli-dg1dr they're ignorant about this fact, so they can let the terrorist Zionists into our land, But that will NEVER happen, Long live PALESTINE 🇵🇸🔻🍉🕊️🌿💛🇪🇬🟨
Yes, you modern day Invaders are Egyptian and do not descend from Kemet bloodline which is African. You descend from the same bloodline as Elizabeth Taylor. There,I said it.
All human life stems from east AFRAKA.
Spit that ish sis
Lol it's really sad how desperate y'all are to claim any part of history that is impressive. If y'all would have paid more attention in school you would realize how ridiculous your point of view is. No scholar that is respected believes what you are saying. Stop trying to steal Egyptian culture you silly N's
@@markmatthews8250your ancestors built mud huts and used cow dung for flooring. They didn't build the pyramids...
@@rustyspygoat4089 it's funny what you write because I know your ignorant not racist I'll tell you this pick up a book and look at artifacts then we can discuss until then have a great life.
Have we forgotten that Egypt is a country in africa.by default they were African.
So? Africa is a continent with diverse ethnicities… haven’t you heard?
@@itsnouryy sweetheart understand this there is no white root in that part of the world or haven't you heard. Kemet not only meant black land but of black ppl aka Kemites. I suggest you read ancient Greek historian and geographer Herodotus accounts about Kemet. Roman general Afrikus named the continent Africa AfrI means indigenous the original name Alkebulan mother of mankind. Every indigenous lived North at some point cause it was too hot during Ancient times. Learn before leaping on a podcast
@@itsnouryy ,,Oh yes ma'am i have .. And i believe that ethiopean people are the most beautiful on earth .Very dark skin ..Very european facial features and sometimes bright green eyes.things we think we know ........we don't ..
Lies lies lies Arabs came to Egypt during the Caliphate of Salahudin Ayyubi
Go do your research again please... I don't know why it's so shocking for Egyptians to believe that the pharoahs were once black. I mean Egypt is in Africa for crying out loud.
Go to Sudan. The same pyramids that are in Egypt are all over Sudan but no one talks about that....
Africa does not mean black... North Africa is barely black.
Says someone who believes Africans are all black 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So explain who these black pharaohs are:
Narmer, Huni, Zoser, Khufu, Menkaure, Montuhotep II, Thuthmose III, Amenhotep III, Rameses I, Rameses II, Taharqa, Psamtik I, Queen Tiye, and the head of the Sphinx is clearly black with black features. Can you explain this to me?!!
She can’t!
She won't, it doesn't coexist with her euro/arab centric agenda she's trying to push.
@@AT-gu8by FACTS
Thank You. Africa has MANY GREAT CIVILIZATION AND LEADERS.
Lol not really . Also they were the supplier of most slaves.
@@davidedbrooke9324 not true we have great leaders
@@sageex3931 Really? Nah. Mostly corrupt fanatics, just look at Rhodesia and South Africa.
Egyptians built the pyramids but didn’t know they’re own colors to depict themselves on the walls and statues???? Does that even make any damn sense to you people?😂😂😂😂😂
They depicted themselves as brown not black
@@johnmonteiro5825black Africans are brown. They didn’t look like her.
then explain why we do not see the same traces of the what we see in ancient Egyptians culture in Asian countries, but we can see the ancient Egyptians in Africa?
Also state which area those dna was taken, because we know that there is an area were the people from the Greeks came and occupied a specific area.
stop misleading people, it is dangerous.
What I understand is how the “light skinned” Egyptians have all this energy for African Americans over a Netflix movie but NONE for the British who actually stole real artifacts from Egypt and make them apply for a visa to go see it….make it make sense.
It’s pathetic
They are White Supremacists 🤷🏿♂️
Well, many of them are hoping to be accepted by Team-White
Omg come on with the #facts 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Ummm because the Netflix documentary is a current event
@@beatrizgalvani one Egyptians aren't "Mediterranean" it points away from the Mediterranean towards Central Africa. Yes skin tones are fair NOW because of gentrification & invasion from other countries oh & Slavic enslavement..but Ancient Egypt indigenous were named "KEMITE" AND THE LAND "KEMET". Afri means indigenous & it's Roman. Africa original name was ALKEBULAN "MOTHER OF MANKIND/ GARDEN OF EDEN" but a Roman soldier by the name of SCIPIO AFRIKANUS conquered & renamed for him & his son. THERE IS NO WHITE ROOT IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. So "IT DOES MEAN BLACK" th-cam.com/video/5kbxoP7ELz4/w-d-xo.html
Your sources were debunked long ago
@Night Rider and then in 25th dynasty arabs like you were the ones ensalved
You don't have an argument or sources. You're just mad. Lol
She just debunked your false beliefs.
@@byronrogers4489 I agree with you. They don't have a study that shows ancient Near Eastern didn't live there and can't accept they were there.The point is ancient Eurasians who looked like her came to Egypt thousands of years ago before Eurasian Arab Muslims arrived.
They will say but that study is from the New Kingdom to Roman period. Sure, but it showed West Asian ancestry not really Roman or Greek, so significant and shows her people didn't all of a sudden look like that because of Greeks or Arabs. It's nonsense.
Also, the FBI extracted DNA from a Middle Kingdom mummy from a governor named Djehutynakt (thank you governor) who had maternal Eurasian DNA. Meaning as far back as the Middle Kingdom you had Middle Eastern looking folks.
And historians speak of Stone Age Middle Eastern settlers. That's way before the Middle Kingdom. There was black ancestry, but it's clear there was heavy West Asian and North African ancestry.
Architect Hemiunu of the Old Kingdom ingdom was a pyramid architect and a royal. He looks Eurasian. Old Kingdom couple Prince Rahotep and noblewoman Nofret have Eurasian features. So calling modern Egyptians foreigners for looking Eurasian is dishonest.They need to stop with slandering Egyptians.
😂😂😂 literally. She needs to catch up with the times. It's 2023.
It’s funny when they ask “ but how did egyptians ended up speaking Arabic “ . They forget that Sudanese people and most of Somali people also speak Arabic but they are not Arabs.
Others make even more funny claims by saying “ but look at the statues , they have fully lips “ as if only black Africans have fully lips. Most of statues actually have west Eurasian features and even those with fully lips do not have subsaharan phenotypes. There are millions of egyptians with fully lips.When you carve someone face in the stone, usually the features look bigger than they are in reality.
And btw, there are plenty of statues with fully lips all over the world. From many statues in the Middle East to countless of Buddhist statues across Asia, to Angkor Thom in Cambodia to Olmecs in America . NONE of these statues depict black Africans.
Long story short, there is 0 evidence that ancient Egyptians were black .
Check this out, black and white is a color not a ethnicity, start there, Egypt is not the original name of the land its kemet, kemet was around for 3,000 or maybe even longer, kemet was pure until the Persian empire arrived and they ruled kemet for 200 years until Alexander the Great the Savior kicked them out and now the Greeks ruled the final dynasty's of kemet even tho ancient Greece, an kemet had a very close relationship, it was written that kemet was the teacher for ancient Greece was the student they received there knowledge and understanding from kemet
And yet the only people that dress like Ancient Egyptians are other Africans from other African countries. The only time you dress like that is when it's time to cosplay as an African.
😂😂😂😂 Preach.
Right!! 💯 isn’t that amazing history repeats itself? I’ve never seen an arab braid and put beads in they’re hair. Ever
@daniele.3361 Is it? Because we clearly see continuity with black African people.
@daniele.3361 so original egyptians didn't dress like and look like indigenous Africans? Stop the b.s.
Cultural, linguistic and religious continuity are stupid arguments. People can change all of that without changing their dna. And other African countries could be copying egypt.
As inaccurate as that documentary is, at least it creates lots of passionate debates! people talk about Egypt and most seem to have common sense.
The Macedon Greek inbred origin of Cleopatra is undeniable and the majority of Pharaoh's DNA is indeed Egyptian because they were also inbreeding.
There was however a black civilisation at the doorstep of Egypt in Nubia, the Kosh empire. And there was frictions between the 2. Even marriages between Nubians and Egyptian nobles at some point. We can find pyramids in Sudan too!
There was 2 periods that had black Royals and pharaohs.
1) Upper Egypt: Narmer had a dark skin. There was already very likely all shades of skin between the top of upper Egypt til the bottom of lower Egypt.
2) the 25th dynasty: originated in Nubia, not Egyptians but very Egyptisised, invaded, controled part of Egypt for almost a century and assimilated in the Egyptian society.
Egypt was a Nile and Mediterranean civilisation. the center of their universe was the Mediterranean sea and most subsaharian Africa was unknown. Africa was the name given by Romans for what we call today north Africa. Greeks and Assyrians called it Lybia. Europeans later called the whole continent Africa because they prefered using Latin names.
Black and races are strange words when we think about it. It puts people in boxes without considering their culture , history location and origins, it's a distinction created by racists centuries ago to divide us and we keep using it.
Let's not let these artificial divisions create artificial history. Black people don't need a fake black Cleopatra , a fake black Ann Boleyn or fake black Bridgerton. They have fantastic heroes in their own past kingdoms and empires or more recent history in Americas and all deserved to be talked about too!
She don't want no part of this knowledge!! Facts 💯
Thank you
This is the best take I have seen about this whole debate
@@paulhuang1694 thanks ! I'm not an expert but I try to stay objective in my comments.
correction Egypt is and always has been an African civilization.
She was raised on lies she doesn't know what she doesn't know
THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE EYGPT WAS BLACK AND YOU NOT!
Yeah, german universities saying Egyptians were not black. Why is that not surprising 😂
There's literally 0 reason they would spend all this time and money just to fabricate some lies.. lol Its science
It's almost like truth trumps anything, there's also the actual Egytians, Semetic historians and many more
@@itsnouryy billions are spent every year to create lies in science lmaoooo
@@artair70 Semitic historians would not be involved with Egypt before the Muslim conquest. Ancient Egyptian was it’s own branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family. You’re probably reading decades old material written by closet-fascist just like the tools at Max Planck.
@@TheLykon She’s probably Muslim. The same people who deny evolution are now quoting DNA studies? Now that’s just hypocritical.
Your narrative is false. Go back and learn the history of Egypt.
I knew she’d use that debunked DNA test! 😂
No DNA test has been debunked, and the mummies were not recent.
Debunked by who exactly? Kevin Hart?
@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 Dr Valentine... Lmmfao!!
Harvard University and all Egyptologist agreed that this was not accurate and doesn’t reflect on the ancient Egyptian population
@@cherriledbetter1120 No they don't. Zahi Hawass categorically denies they were black other than the 25th dynasty. You've posted a video on another thread where the accademic cites Du Bois in claiming that the Assyrians where a negroid people. This is completely false and there is literally no evidence to support that they were anything other than Eurasian. Du Bois was a social scientist not an expert in Egyptology, archaeololgy or anthropology.
The germans would want Egyptians to be lighter skin go figure hahaha
Not everyone is obsessed with race like you
😂😂😂😂
lololol
White P 🤍 o/
Ah yes, the Germans are the same as their ancestors were 80 years ago, but I’m not racist
Egypt 🇪🇬 is Africa they share history with Sudan 🇸🇩 Nubians
If the ancient Egyptians weren't black, please explain why the hell the sphinx has African/black features ???
It doesn’t
She’s Egyptian but her skin complexion is completely different than the Egyptians on the walls. They had a dark complexion on the walls. Her skin looks nothing like that and she doesn’t look full blown Egyptian. Over thousands of years people of all cultures were mixing together. Show your DNA results on here if your really what you say you are .. Just saying
All facts
It’s awesome to see a young person make calm rational educated arguments. Based in facts and logic. Without putting someone else down yelling and screaming. You are representing your culture wonderfully. Thank you young Lady.
She conveniently avoid’s DNA results of Ramses III which was approved by Dr. Hawass - The research study revealed that Ramses III and his son Pentawer were both E1B1A . Haplogroup E1B1A is a Subsaharan Haplogroup due to it's highest frequency in Central and Western Africa. E1B1A has a very low frequency in North Africa.
@@cadguy262 That was only his through paternal line. We have no idea what Ramses III’s maternal line. Men have 2 haplogroups to trace their genetic ancestry and where in that haplogroup originated. They have their Y-chromosome (paternal haplogroup) and mitochondrial DNA (maternal haplogroup). Women can only trace their ancestry through their mitochondrial DNA, which means women only have one haplogroup. Also, haplogroups doesn’t equal race. For example, a Cuban man can be 72% European, 20% Sub-Saharan African, and 8% Native American and both of his paternal and maternal haplogroups are of Native American origins despite his low Native American ancestry.
I thought an argument consisted of 2 people. Why would she be yelling and screaming alone recording herself?
@@cadguy262 E1b1a originated from Eurasians. The only African haplogroups are A and B. The latest research shows E haplogroup splitting from DE and entering East Africa around 70,000 years ago. E1b1a split from E in East Africa over 40,000 years ago. All Africans with an E based haplogroup descends from an Eurasian male ancestor. Eurasian/Caucasians are the Daddy of most Africans.
You see, modern East and West Africans only became modern humans during the Late Neolithic. They didn't exist as modern humans when E1b1a originated over 40,000 years.
The oldest modern human fossil with Negroid features is the 6,400 year old Asselar Man skeleton found in Mali. All older human fossils with Negroid features aren't modern humans. The 11,000 year old Iwo Eleru skull found in Nigeria, is not modern human but has obvious Negroid features.
That's why you people are so ridiculous, you make claims that can't possible be true. You simply didn't exist.
@@Csylve E1b1a is an Eurasian haplogroup. All people with an E haplogroup, descends from an Eurasian male ancestor. E1b1a split from E in East Africa over 40,000 years ago. The oldest modern human Negro fossil is only 6,400 years old. They're making impossible, ridiculous claims.
The latest research has E haplogroup entering East Africa over 70,000 years ago. Most modern Africans, except the few with an A or B haplogroup, descend from Eurasian males.
Kemet" is an ancient Egyptian term that translates to "the black land" or "the black soil." It refers to the fertile soil along the Nile River, which was dark in color due to the sediment deposited during the river's annual flooding. The ancient Egyptians used this term to describe their homeland because the black soil was essential for agriculture and was associated with fertility and abundance.
The term "Kemet" contrasts with "Desher," which means "the red land" and refers to the surrounding desert areas. The Nile River and its annual flooding were central to the prosperity of ancient Egypt, as the inundation brought nutrient-rich silt that replenished the soil and allowed for successful agricultural production.
In addition to its literal meaning, "Kemet" also held symbolic significance for the ancient Egyptians. The color black was associated with regeneration and fertility in Egyptian mythology, representing the fertile land that gave life to the civilization. The term "Kemet" reflects the deep connection that the ancient Egyptians felt with their land and its life-giving properties.
she’s wrong 😂
Sometimes you have to ask yourself who's scientific proof this was.
Exactly . Pleaee research professor alejandro jimenez serrano for the truth of the DNA evidence of ancient Egyptiams from 8th dynasty. Evey time i share this information she deletes it because it disproves her false narrative.
Oh please.
Nazis in Germany.
then why others not do???
Scientists' and no they don't conspire against you. Numerous genetic studies have been done on mummies but the race of the scientists is a problem for you
Girl bye, Egyptians were and are black, y’all are just light-skinned now. But who cares, TRUST not every black person is claiming Egyptian heritage, most of us care nothing about y’all. Why ppl keep wanting to claim a ppl that God destroyed 🙄
At this point it’s mental illness with these people…if they truly think ancient Egypt was Persian or A rab….
Nah they ain’t black .. They are Arab slavers , they don’t consider themselves African anyway so why argue with them
@@evag4535none claimed is claiming that Egypt is persion or Arab,they just aren't black.
Black Americans must stop exporting their ignorance around the world
@@bafanamahlatse1923 modern Egyptians are not black, they are the descendants of the Persian and Ottoman Empires. Africa is a black continent. The people occupying Egypt today have absolutely not one thing to do with ancient Egypt. There are zero connection between modern Egyptians and ancient Egypt. Only the black indigenous Egyptians are related to the ancient Egyptians. The white Persians and Arab Egyptians have zero connection to ancient Egypt. Modern Egyptians are more related to their Persian ancestors in Turkey, Iraq, etc…conquerors are occupying Egypt. They came, they saw and they conquered…..
@@bafanamahlatse1923 you can’t change history that God almighty has set forth. Pretty much they are not black now but, ancient Egypt was a black civilization taken over and decimated by warring outsiders like the Persians that resides there now…it’s Africa a black man’s continent. The Chinese got China, the Indian got India and the black man got all of Africa….
Arabs are even closer to ancient Egyptians than Muslim Egyptians who have higher SAA admixture. The closest are the Copts.
Please guys lets not be classified as black anymore, I'm South African and i have the same skin colour as her, Egyptians are Africans there in Africa,lets be proud of where we're from
I wish I could post a collage of all the white European actors and models who portrayed ancient Egyptians over the last 100 years with ZERO backlash from modern Egyptians. And the argument that it was just art or fantasy is weak, especially in the face of such a strong response to Black Egyptians.
if you educated yourself, you would already know they got backlashed.
@@xiongvaj2014
Seeing is believing. The only reason you didn't post a single link is because you're lying.
White people played them in movies. Black people want to play them in movies whilst simultaneously trying to rewrite their history. White people didn’t and dont do that. We know who Egyptians are... very diverse. White people even glorify Egyptian history, knowing they're not white. They're ertainly not black Americans either 😂
The Denial is truly pathological. She is actually suggesting that she and her modern Egyptian type is actually darker in complexion than her "ancient Egyptian ancestors". You've got to Really be amazed by the delusional, straight faced, boldness of this reverse psychology. This raises the insanity to a whole other level. WOW!
😂 right! In there was zero argument from these people!
They were Africans. You're ancestors came here after the Islamic conquest of Ancient Kemet baby
They were never afri cans. Afri cans have built nothing.
The people living in Egypt did effectively not change. The Islamic conquest, independently where it took place, was a conquest by a military elite, not an exodus of arabians into other lands. The reason Egyptians became by large Muslims is due to the fact that they were monophysite Christians, i.e. rejected the concepts of trinity and divinity of Jesus and thus had almost no conflicting points with Muslim doctrines.
@@smavi4133they did change. The first pharaohs of Egypt were all black. They had pyramids and kingdoms built and were invaded by Greeks and Arabs who refused to leave when they saw how amazing our native black ancient civilisation was. Even Greek historians who literally roamed ancient Egypt BEFORE INVASION of Greeks and Arabs documented ancient Egyptians were black to the bone with Woolly hair. These Greek historians were Strabo, Diodorus Siculus, Ammianus Marcellinus, and Herodotus. Don’t try and steal our history. The current population on egypt are descendants of invaders posing as native black ancient Egyptians and u deep down know they will never accept this amazing civilisations came from black people.
Wrong just because you guys say so doesn’t make it right
the word kemet actually means land of black mud….. if you care to debate this topic, go ahead and respond I will crush you just like I did Mr. Imhoteps and everybody else on TH-cam
The Islamic conquest is the only thing a Broad subsaharan African DNA that far north Africa. Those bantu people were perfectly happy, living, eastern, and southern African regions far away from great civilizations.
National Geographic had a documentary in which an egyptiologist tested mummies and proved they were nubian.
So Egyptians looked like my PFP?😂😂😂
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I know the exact study she's citing and those mummies are relatively 'recent'.
Exactly
You've also had testing of more ancient mummies such as Akhenaten, various noblemen, though not enough. His ancestry doesn't connect to Sub Saharan ancestors, but Ramses III had a paternal ancesor. The 2017 mummies were recent but went back to the New Kingdom. The study didn't show overlap with the Romans and Greeks, so that's important. Fayum mummies look similar to modern Egyptians and Copts. There is a lot of obvious overlap between many modem Egyptians with those elements. Also plenty of mummies have facial features resembling Middle Eastern elements. Agree that the Max Planck study has limitations but it pointing to New Kingdom people being related to Middle Eastern people is something to look more closely at. We need more mummies, in different regions.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS we need mummies from the Naqada, Badari and pretty much early dynasties, which came from Upper Egypt and could identify where Egyptians originally came from
agreed
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In Nigeria alone the Binis from the ancient Benin kingdom still have rituals and practices of ancient Egypt, the Yoruba's too and Igbos....
My question is what do the modern Egyptians know about ancient Egypt aside from the nonsense europeans feed them? Don't know shit about the pyramid literally they know nothing but come here and talk nonsense. When the blacks in egypt are giving less voice to speak, they even want to make you think there are no blacks in Egypt 😂😂😂😂.
When you run from home you run far far away and that's logic and when settle ,you settle close to each other because you are from same geographical area even if you don't speak same language there will always be similarities in your culture.
"Benin, Yoruba,Igbos" are fractures of ancient Egypt
DNA test confirmed ancient Egyptian people were in the gene pool of Mediterranean/ Middle Eastern. Cultural influences from or to Egypt is another topics. Not to mention there’s a huge culture gap between Egypt and Sub-Sahara Africa
@@Marcus_-sy9fi there's a huge culture gap between ancient Egypt and present Egypt but the so called sub saharan africa most west africa still maintain the culture.
Common sense you need to know what you speak on
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The problem is that you're going off the continent boundaries that were arbitrarily defined by others. If you erase these boundaries, it will make more sense and perhaps even more understanding of human groups.
The similarities between people along the migration path were there, but the difference between Egyptian civilization and Sub-Sahara African going back around 4000 years were quite obvious. Geographically, that part of Africa is right next to the Middle East and Mediterranean peninsula before any continent boundaries were defined (and defined by who??). The DNA sequencing of ancient Egyptian mummies going back 4000 years ago is even clearer.
The claim about Cleopatra is even more ridiculous, and she was supposed to be a "Greek invader"" by that same logic too, wasn't she?
@@Marcus_-sy9fi cleopatra don't concern me , am telling you the so called ancient Egyptian civilization and culture is own by black africans scattered mostly in west Africa today. Egypt was invaded multiple times by outsider and it citizens ran of safety. It can be 4000 years ago 1million years ago but the fact and truth is most west African tribes (the ones I previously stated)still practice almost every culture and tradition the ancient Egyptians practice and that is how you know the original people
@@Marcus_-sy9fi am not arguing am educating you
German universities huh😂. Sun cancer must be a new phenomenon i guess
Some of the most brilliant credible people in the world highly regarded by literally everyone.
Egyptians invented sunscreen
but Kanye told em "We WoZ KaNgZ"
We wuz Kangs and you wuz inbred neanderthals in the ice
Amazing how Native North Africans are quick to disprove Non Mediterannean Africans but will not do the same to Non Mediterannean Europeans yeah.
You are WRONG!
Ancient Egypt was indeed rooted in a black civilization. (Blackness is where it begin).
Egyptians (Kemetics) were indeed black, they were negro the “ lightening” of Egypt (thru wars, migration, and inclusivity, intermarriage etc) came much latter as the empire began to decline, it became a miscegenation zone.
There is no tribe that existed in ancient times who called themselves "Negro". Dark skinned people in Africa originated around the equator and are called Sub Suhara Africans.
"Negro" is a white supremacists term for people with dark skin and African-like characteristics.
Genomic ancestry of North Africans supports back-to-Africa migrations
Henn et al, 2012.
The ORIGINAL EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK
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I dont understand how hard it is for people to understand this simple concept. Masr has always been home to many people of all backgrounds and all shades of colour.
They just dont get it because they're culture in the US is so fixated on which skin tone owns what
@@itsnouryy Kind of true. People from Africa tend to identify themselves by nation, tribe, imo.
African Americans often tend to refer to themselves as 'black'. Even though many of them have 'white' ancestry as well.
@@itsnouryy stop the nonsense already. Go and study the true history of the original people of Egypt. Whites have been trying to make Egyptians whites for centuries this is pure nonsense
@@itsnouryy You're right but it doesn't debunk their claims.
@@itsnouryy if that's the case that Egyptian are of different colours then why are upset that cloepatra is portrayed black be patient next time she will be purple ,yellow brown or whatever colour but no you do what you accuse of others doing you are fixated on what colour plays what
Let's have a public debate live streamed and see what happens.
You still want to debate even after the scientific proof???????
@@malakadel4044 people can be funny
... How does one debate with no proof /facts
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What proof??
She used one study from 2017; I heard nothing about linguistics, comparative ethnography or anatomical analysis of ancient Egyptian mummies. I didn't hear her reference a single book on any of the aforementioned fields of study that delves into any one of those subjects in a detailed and scientifically systematic way.
What's the matter, you guys afraid to look deeper into things, and look into other kinds of scientific analysis because you're to afraid of being proven wrong??
One little genetic study proves nothing.
That's what you idiots don't get.
Do u outsider nigga. Wanna tell me that coptic. Language is actually yours 🤔🤔
imagine being so naive to think that there were no black people in ancient Egypt. in fact, a good majority of so called Afro people are DNA relatives of Ramses III
Women you can go to Greece a pass as a Greek woman. Ancient Greeks made a clear distinction between their appearance and Egyptians
And yet the Nile river was a trade route
A trade route hindered by cataracts (waterfalls). Most trade between egypt and sudan is still on land because of them.
You lost me at German Scientists.....the people known for racism.
Wait till you found out how "racist" Asians are then, cope Afro...
THANK YOU!!! But they'll believe any anti Black lie racist put forward
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿like we can rely on anything a rascist German scientist has 2 say
Can we trust any frustrated black scientist, that believes in a pseudoscience such as afrocentrism?
Dismissing a study bc it comes from an ethnic group you dont like doesnt make it any less credible. It means you refuse to listen to objective evidence based on stereotypes and generalizations which actually makes YOU the racist here.
THEY WERE BLACK, THAT PEOPLE ADMIT IT, IT'S NOT A SHAME, IT'S JUST A COLOUR
Evidence?
Literally nothing proves this, all historic evidence points to Egyptians being either lights kinked or tanned at most but not black, the black ones are nubian non egyptians
@@xijinping937 bruh