@@DorkintheRoad #7 Affordable. Whether you buy new or used, assuming you buy even a little "right", you are getting a ton of bike for the money, and if the off chance you hate it, you should probably take only a small hit. #8 Stupid long maintenance intervals. I bought a 2019 new in Feb of this year, and have about 2,500 miles on it already. Whether is putting around the neighborhood on some made up errand, or taking a weekend trip, this thing just does it. Maybe not the best in any one category, it just does so many things decently.
@@waltermitty7452 They seem to hold their value. Been looking at replacing my ancient (heavy) XR650L with a 250, and the used 250L prices are higher than I expected. Obviously cheaper than new, but an indication that you can count on it holding it's value over time. The other 250 I'm looking at is the KLX.
@@orangelion03 That's what I found as well, and one of the reasons I ended up buying a new one. To me, they held their value so well, the gap between new and used wasn't all that great....or at least to me wasn't the discount that I wanted. Also, since I plan to keep my bike for a very long time, it tends to be the way to go for me. Good luck with your purchase.
Called a place in town yesterday looking for a used KLR650. They said 'sorry but we sell Hondas. we have a 2019 CRF250L Rally'. I say, 'hey, what's that? this is my first bike.' so they convinced me to come down in the morning to sit on it. I changed my mind. then I saw this video (and a couple others) and tomorrow I'm going straight to the bank and then calling the shop and buying the bike. I can tell you mean everything you're sayin here and I just know it's the right choice. plus it'll match my 2014 CRV, which is like a family member of mine (5500 uber trips, 160k mi in 3 years, countless night practically living out of it, flooring it across the Arizona desert). Thanks Mr. Dork! really looking forward to being a part of this community
You are right on with these 6 points. I absolutely love mine. Sure I dumped $4000 in upgrades into her. But that's because I loved the bike so much in stock form that I thought it was worth it to upgrade her to her full potential. Now cruising at 60 to 70 is no problem, single track...no problem, ID-BDR...no problem. I do need to mention that I rode a KLR650 before this, so this bikes seems really light to me. I went a little overboard with my mods, but in my opinion absolutely must haves are: RaceTech suspension front and rear (get the valves in the front and have a good shop do it for you. Really transforms this bike), FMF exhaust (any larger header and muffler will do, but this bike needs to be "uncorked"), EJK fuel controler (needed for next mod), 305cc Big Bore Kit (This is what really makes the difference, adds torque to the entire rev range, you can pull on the highway, and don't have to slip the clutch as much in the slow stuff. Get a service manual, watch some videos on it, take your time, torque everything to spec, follow break in procedures. Anyone can do this themselves, just take your time with it.). If your ever up in WA, around I-90 Snoqualmie area and need suggestions on where to go riding, hit me up.
Thanks man, just wish they would have given it the few extra inches of ground clearance the 300L got. But still happy with the bike.@@TheUncommonKIBBLES
Last I checked, my friend that I sold the KLR to is still riding it and was at 46,000 miles (no issues). I think EverRide said it best: The KLR is one of the few bikes in Kawasaki's lineup that doesn't have ninja in the name. But if it was a ninja, it would be the fat, 40-year-old ninja that could still kick your butt...lol I have been moving more towards single track and less road. So I am thinking of moving to full dirt bike. But for the Adventure riding I was doing, that bike is perfect IMHO. Just heavy enough to handle reasonably on the Hwy, but light enough to do single track (if you are a decent rider), and forest service roads like a champ.
Do you know what the upgrade was to the suspension? I am currently wanting to buy one but hesitant with a few of the concerns like the weight of it and the suspension.
The bike is heavy for single track, but 100% fine for forest service roads. The suspension was super soft stock, but honestly, for normal forest service roads, it was just fine. If you want to push it harder, you are going to find it's limits really quick. @@kennyemhardt7027
I just purchased a 2017 model today. Two sets of wheels (one street- one knobby) upgraded seat & exhaust. Looks new. I just rode it around the parking lot... Smiles. What words come to mind... "I just like it"... that why I purchased it. It will be used for cruising to the boat marina (5 miles of pavement) or on local logging roads by the river. No racing- just an older guys bike. I use to Motocross race Open Class and 250cc class back in the day.. like many days ago. and work in a motorcycle shop for a period as a mechanic. This Motorcycle just brings a smile to my face.... Like petting your bird dog after a good retrieval...
Your subscribers are 250L owners or want one, so please keep always making videos about this great machine without changing. Thanks for the nice videos.
I bought a 2018 250 Rally in July of 2019, and I have hardly ridden my 2014 BMW F800GS since! It's just so much fun, and I feel more comfortable going places I hesitated taking the BMW due to the weight difference. The 250 Rally has done everything and anything I've asked of it. Can't wait for summer 2021 to do some WABDR routes on it.
Thanks I love yer comments!! Just my 10 cents worth. I bought a low miles 2018 250L last year and really started to enjoy her. I fitted an Arrow exhaust and a BMC air filter and then had the ECU flashed and wow she was transformed!! Sooooo much better to ride, more flexible and free revving and only perhaps 3 more horses but thats more than 10 percent so she felt like I had fitted a 450cc engine (almost). So why am I now selling her, I hear you ask? Well. The bike lived her first 4 years in the wet, cold and salty UK. And she is now as rotton as a carrot!!! Looking at her she looks great BUT get her up on a ramp and weep....even the engine cases are rotting!! This bike is made in Honda Thailand. They make bikes to a price point. The frame on mine is rotting. The OEM exhaust is rusted very badly. The wheels are totally rotten.
I own a stock CRF250L 2019 model for over a year now and it replaces my Transalp 600. I have no problems going onto the motorway and keeping up with traffic, going 110kmph (70mph) still leaves me some throttle room to takeover traffic in front. A thing to note is, powerwise, the CRF250L likes to be driven at higher revs, doing that will wake it up significantly. I agree with the seat and suspension upgrades, especially on long rides. Looking at the total package; it's light enough, it has power enough... everything is just enough and that's what you should expect from it, it does the job and simply never breaks. No I'm not a 'beginner' and I do drive the bike very happily. Could it be better? Maybe, but that also goes for all other bikes.
Absolutely nailed it - after 2 years on a 2016 everything you say here is true - @2:16 - suspension - easy fix - when I did the fork seals recently I topped up with 15 weight fork oil and put in 30ml more than the manual - suspension improved considerable for no money at all. Surprising how few gold actually even wind the rear Pre-load up - then saw its “too soft” - all above applies to me (@80kg) - everything else 100% agree “charming and surprising” is the perfect description - sooo cheap and billet prof too.. goes everywhere all my riding buddies go - big bikes fast bikes etc ... it won’t win the race (it’s a 250!) but it will get there with the right rider !! Easy bike too, on road or off, so you can give it to anyone without fear.
Bought a lightly used CRF Rally as my first (and currently only) street motorcycle - previous owner had only put 3700 miles on, barely broken in really. Have put ~5500 miles on it in 14 months of ownership, and really love it as a weird dual-sport/ADV-lite hybrid. It's a brilliant commuter, and will even do a fair bit of highway mileage for lack of a bigger tourer. At my weight of 175 lbs, it'll hang at 75-80 cozily all day at sea level. I've put Progressive springs up front tuned for my weight, and currently have it on Shinko 705s since trails/forest roads are SO far away, and the P/O had put on a 12v socket and rear toprack, but otherwise it's all stock. I intend on keeping it as long as it'll run, and eventually doing some serious touring once long-distance travel is viable again.
I just picked up a CRF250L Rally after riding a Rally Raid CB500X for 5 years. The CB was an excellent all-rounder, but never quite ticked the 'fun' box for me. No question, the Rally is fun to ride and encourages me to explore a wider range of roads and trails. Sure, it's not the lightest, but if I can pick it up by myself I'm going to explore more, and that's the point of these bikes.
Your a tough guy then. I got my Rally upside down once on a steep hill the thing wouldn't lug up. When I tried to turn around in the single track situation I was stupid enough to get in it got upside down. Honestly I could not recover the bike alone. I couldn't get it back on 2 wheels. I know nothing but there is something about MY Rally that seems to put all the weight topside!
My 2018 250 is really good. Surprisingly quick for what it is. Very top end heavy but once you learn how to control it it fine. But I am 6’5 and 250lbs but it ride spectacular and I’ve never had a problem with mine. I fitted bigger motocross tyres to it because I like throwing it round off-road 90% of the time, the back tyre does tend to catch the stock exhaust but you don’t notice it apart from the point on where it catches looks polished. I abuse mine on a daily and it loves everything I do and it’s so much fun
You popped up on my recommendations yesterday and I keep seeing you! I shopped an AT and ended up with a Super Tenere. Now I want a smaller dual sport and found a 2014 CRF250L and here you are AGAIN! Subscribed.
Just bought one today, are used 2017 model with get this 289 miles on it. Bought it from a 78 year old man who purchased it five years ago, drove it a few times to relive some of his youth. And then put it in his garage and drove it probably 10 miles a year after the first week he owned it. I came across it from a buddy of mine. It is his uncle and I think I got a stellar deal let $3500. And that included a rally windshield and soft bags for the back.
As you say it's capable, very capable. It's greatest weakness is the suspension, not the geometry but the entry level components. Which means suspension mods. Racetech is reasonable for the front end, springs and emulators, unfortunately there's really nothing to do with stock rear shock, which means replacement. Fortunately there are a few option but they do feel expensive. Three years in on an Ohlins and I'm still very happy I went that way, it's worth every penny. I think the most amazing thing about the little CRF is that it is "charming" I've ridden for years and this bike gets more positive comments and reactions than anything I've owned, it's a huge bonus. You know what they say "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" and that seems how people react to it!
I agree, you nailed it! I also have a 2016 CRF250L, bought it after learning to ride (at 30) on a cheap 81 Yamaha DT175 and deciding I was hooked and wanted a bike more modern and roadworthy. It's been great and sure takes a beating, but I did have a catastrophic problem that could've blown it up if i hadn't noticed,, but it was a real freak situation... Stalled going up a ledge on a trail near Moab, bailed off the bike, and it landed on the ledge while smashing the rear brake pedal through the oil filter cover resulting in a leak, a failed attempt to jb weld the hole, a hike out, barely catching a ride back to my truck, overnighting parts, driving to get parts, hiking in, crossing fingers and riding out! Was a hell of an adventure! I now carry a spare cover just in case. I also picked up a 2000 DRZ400E project I have about all set to get back on the road/trail so love watching all your vids!!
I’ve had a 250L , XR650L and a 450L in that order. I sold my 450L and was going to buy another 250L and trick it out. For some reason of the 3 I just loved that 250. I know its heavy and a little underpowered , suspension could use a bit of an upgrade but still was my favorite. So what to do..... I decided to try the new 300l (base model, no abs). I feel that it’s going to fit my needs better and I’ll still have that 250L giddy feeling. I’m 58 retired and got back into dual sport riding in 2014 with the 250L. I didn’t care for the 650 or the 450 so here we go...... lol. CRF300L should be here in feb or March. Which is fine with me since we just got “another” 10” of snow last night. Happy trails everyone.
For your viewers who might want to see what the 250 is capable of, a Dutch girl it riding all over Africa back roads on season 5 of Itchy boots. Doing high mountain passes and open deserts. She does exceptional video production. I can't help but promote her. I enjoyed your review. I have the bike befor the 250. It's the 230L. A smaller air cooled bike. Not quite as capable, I really like it. And super reliable as well. Cheers
Hey DITR, by virtual of your influence I have a 2020 CRF250L ABS w/ 150 miles on it (broke my shoulder during some slow speed figure-eights AND then my tail-bone & right hip from a fall in the shower). I can hardly wait to get back on the horse! I am going to buy the best-affordable gear I can get before getting back on!
Great video as usual! I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of the Honda 250 L. My first bike was a 1982 185 XL and I can’t remember when I had so much fun on a motorcycle!! As always, enjoyed watching your videos . 😁👍🏻🏍
I bought this bike brand new early this summer. Black version. I'm working my ass off to pay this bike but I don't regret buying it. I'm a noob enduro rider but I'm already riding through/over stuff I didn't expect to do so soon.
Just cought this video a year later! Was looking at your klr video and thinking of "upgrading" to it for the larger engine. I have a 2015 250 l that I had bought new. I love it. Your droid comparison was spot on! Anyway, I'm keeping it! You've convinced me. !
Nice video. I think this is what people need to see if they are considering a CRF250L. A normal decent guy with nothing to gain by bullshitting, giving an opinion of how it feels to own one and how much fun you had on it. At the end of the day most of us ride for the fun which is another way of saying it makes us feel good. I ride mine on back roads to get to local bushland where I ride easy trails. I love the whole experience and the bike is perfect for what I want. Did I mention its also cheap to run, what a bonus!
I picked up a used Rally in June during lockdown and echo everything you say. Mine is bog standard, and it's perfect. I wish I'd have bought it first too (my first was a G650GS). Surprisingly capable on the motorway. Not found anything yet it can't do offroad (but I'm pretty new to this thing). All the mechanical stuff is solid and easy to maintain.
@@jonathanesqueda3452 Hi Jonathan, it could do it but I think the rally would be better, if I’m honest if you need a bike to commute there is probably a better bike for it.
I sold my '15 CRF250L a few months back...kinda missing it. I got a GREAT deal on a new, old stock 2018 NC750X with the DCT (CDN $9300 OTD), and in as much as I enjoy the bike, it is a PIG compared to the CRF. Yeah, sure the CRF is heavy for its category, but the NC at 507 lbs and the turning radius of a Big Rig is really cumbersome in my double wide driveway to pull out and put away. The CRF managed low 80's MPG imp. vs. 90+ MPG on the NC in Sport One mode...and the "frunk" is frickin' awesome. Also, with the added kickstand, chain maintenance is a breeze. Personally, I never liked to ride the CRF on the 400 series highways here in Ontario, but the NC is right at home on the highways. I'm sure another CRF is in my future, but for now, with the type of riding I do, there is too much overlap with these bikes to justify the cost of owning the second bike. Absolutely loved it when I had it...it was just more fun.
Just got a 2014 model for my very first motorcycle this month! Im only 4'5" and 140lbs so feeling that top heavy weight for sure, tipped over a couple times while stopped but obviously still learning how to throw my weight around it but got it because everyone said ITS A TANK. It came with the same rack and skid plate as you + a radiator cover. I intend to learn more in the dirt but I also live in the Bay Area and will be commuting maybe 18-25round trip over a bridge a few times a month. Would you recommend mod'ing it with some lighter upgrades so I can whip it around in the dirt easier? Or is the weight more in my favor if I end up in more windy situations on the highway.... sure eventually I'll just get more then 1 bike but gotta start somewhere.
I had one. Clutch upgrade, fork upgrade and that’s all you need. Reliable as the day is long. Always running at the end of the as long as you’re not stupid. Just add gas to the tank and ride it forever.
Great video. I got back into bikes 6 years ago with a 250L. It was a 2015 and was told it was the second one here in Arizona. That morphed into a Husky 449 then a KLR to a F 800 GS to my all time favorite bike. 2017 Africa Twin. I agree it is a great bike and under appreciated. That being said the DRZ 400 would be my choice for a smaller second bike to go along with the AT. See great minds think alike. 😃
I recently got asked if I wanted to buy a friends 2018 250L and I jumped at the chance... Should be getting it around the end of march / beginning of april of this year and I am super excited to get it. While my main bike is a 22 KLX300DS, I have wanted a 2nd bike around in case my wife wanted to ride or when my kids visit and want to ride... I think this 250 is going to be fantastic for that, and as they are even more beginnerish (new word? :D) than me, I think it should be a comfortable, dependable, and controllable bike for them to get their feet wet on :) And yes, your video's on the 250L make me even more confident this was a good decision!
Love your video ! I have the 2020 CRF - 250 LA. I put a FMF pipe on mine / not the whole thing but the end piece is all. Seemed to help alittle bit ! Next i'm going to get the after market air cleaner that has more ability to suck more air ! Next i'm going for the Power Commander that plugs in under the seat for better mapping of the fuel ! Then I'm getting the sprocket kit that comes as gold to match the upper front forks . Its only the back sprocket that has just 2 more teeth ! I'm only doing this to my bike to make it more playful ! This is why it feels top heavy in the corners because it dosen't have enough power & throttle response ! I love the bike so far ! But it does need these changes to make it safer & funner to ride ! I'm doing this for the trails & woods ! Just sayin '
I really like your input 👍 Maybe the front suspension is squishy to help improve braking on hard surfaces like the road by allowing weight to transfer to the front quickly. This would be extremely beneficial to a beginner!!! Their target market for this bike most likely isn't taking it to the MX track or even up the steep rocky rooted hill climbs so it's perfect 👌 Thank you for making this video 👊😎
I really hope it's that intentional and agree that could be helpful for a beginner. I have to wonder if it's not also just a result of cost-saving measures leading to cheaper parts in the forks and the fact that like you say they don't really expect most riders to do any "serious" off roading on it. Thanks for watching!
Only one fork has a spring in it, the other fork has the valuing. One of the first upgrades I did was install a race tech spring in the empty fork and changed the fork oil in both. Have never had an issue since.👍🏻
Just bought a 250l as my first bike today. Thank you so much for your video, it's made me a lot more confident in my choice and I'm sure I'll have a heap of fun on it. Sounds like it's exactly what I'm looking for as a beginner. Thanks again for the informative vid!!
How are you enjoying it so far? Content with your purchase? Looking to buy my first bike an as Red Honda Civic Owner this surely looks like it’s gonna be my first bike
@@yossiawaka9787 you won't regret it. It's been a solid reliable ride so far, pretty comfortable on the road too. The front suspension is a little soft off road but that's of course something which can be upgraded and improved if you want. Best of luck with your buy
great channel, just found you, subscribed and liked. I own a 2015 GS1200 and love it, but as an average rider of average height and closing in on retirement age, I'm after a smaller cheap and reliable adventure bike to go with the GS. when I reach 65 next year and can access my super I'll be buying the latest GS which I'll keep for the rest of my riding life but the current "other duel sport in the shed" is a 2011 Honda crf450x, set it up for adventure but the regular oil changes are becoming a pain so I've been looking at the 250L for a long time now. I love the 450 power but it's peaky and is highly strung. I haven't ridden a 250 for a long time but as everyone says"it does everything" and sounds like a great budget and reliable do everything buddy for the GS. this video is a great insight from someone that owns a DRZ as well so I value your opinion. great work Dork, I'm a tech head too so relate totally to the site (ex-avionics technician, Australian Airforce) will check out the other videos soon. Awesome work.
I'm in the same boat. I've had dozens of bikes, but was happy to sell my CBR liter bike and Concours and get a new CRF250L. I love it! Low maintenance, high mpg, easy to ride bike that turns around in its own lane. I'm done riding big and fast, now it's all about fun and with a new seat concepts seat it's as comfortable to ride a your favorite pair of blue jeans.
hello there..Ive got a klr 650 2004 and thinking of changing it with a crf 250l or rally would you think it will be a big diference.i m not a.speedfreak my self mostly comuter maybe some trail and a couple of small excursion hihway.I just woory about the back rider my wife..im 70kilos and she s normal but i dont know how well the crf can handle two persons..anyway nice video....
I've had this bike for a few years and I'm a big fan. You missed the most important thing. The fuel tank is to small. I live on this bike. It's my everything. Full biker no car. I have to change the wheels bearings once a year and get the oil and filters changed every now and then. The main thing I buy is tyres. Full tank of fuel down the freeway melted my indicator once. I've got vids if you want to check haha I had thicker shock oil put in and it helped a lot with the front. I still bottom it out though often 👍. I'll give you a sub seem as though you love the L 👌🤣
Was going to buy now but in Australia they announced a 300 version but march April release. I don't know if I can wait. Your vid was awesome and makes me want again
Hey! Loved the video. I’m looking at getting a CRF250L but I’m not too sure on size. I’m 6’1” 185lbs. Will this bike be a solid size? I know the suspension will need an upgrade as well.
Cool video man I always enjoy watching your videos, also the 2nd gen 250 was a lot better had like 0.5 TQ + 1.5 HP More they redid the airbox gave it a bigger header pipe blah blah lol & tach with RPM. I did an ECU tune on mine with the slip-on exhaust, barkbusters handguards & crash bars skid 🍽️ combo even with my gear I weigh like 180-lb suspension is soft but with my weight pretty good (165 normal weight)
Watching your video now and looking at a CRF250L with all the mods that one would need. The price is steep but it is all there. Definitely cheaper than doing it myself. Also I took my 07 V-strom 650 down Black Bear Pass and I hear when you say it is heavy but compared to my 600 lbs + with gear I'm sure taking the CRF on offroad adventures will be a breeze!
My question what to buy from - 2013 yamaha wr250r, 4k miles 2019 yamaha xt250, 10k miles 2019 kawasaki klx250, 1k miles 2017 honda ckr250, 3k miles In my area colorado at a shop they are all $3500 used. Whats the best??
First time dual sport buyer. Considering CRF or Yamaha WR250R. 30 mile commute on backroads road work, some single track, and general ripping around for errands and afternoon fun. Lots more CRFs to be found where I am in Oregon, but have heard legendary tales of WR. Seems like WR is maybe a little more trail capable, but the CRF is friendlier for newer riders. Any thoughts?
I have mine for 7 years now, and the love is still there. Anyone can ride and enjoy this bike. There are no wow factors but its just a great bike overall and what a tank it is, never had any problems with it. The same cant be tell about my 4yo 450x that I had to be rebuilt twice...
Can you swap out the fork springs for stiffer springs and put heavier fork oil in the forks to make it a little better? I had a 97 xr 250 years ago and done that and worked great also converted an 02 cr250r to a woods bike and softened the forks by changing the springs and fork oil and that worked great to
I found I was spending too much time on the Highway, so I bought a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 but I found I loved my Honda CRF250L too much and I could not sell her. Oh well, now I own 2 bikes.
Hello Dork, any comment here? I'm 67 and a solid experienced rider dirt and street...but no expert. 5'11" 155 lbs and considering a 250 Rally vs XT250....any comment?
hello, thank you for the informations, is there an Acerbis 12.5 liters tank that fit this bike ? can you advise any carrying side bags brand for this bike ? is there any wind shield that can be fitted , more or less like the one from the CRF300 rally ? (for the long trips on roads)
Excellent review and spot on, got the bike first then found the video :) My other trusty stead is a Super Blackbird, but the only real problem I am having with the CRF is it came lowered and on super moto's, I have put it to stock and off road wheels but now the side stand seems to be 2 inches short and the bike wants to fall over.
@@itz_brando_yo it is a great bike, i had to drop the front sproket down a tooth and add 2 on the back, massive difference, i would probably go for a 2t 300 something next however as i was shocked how heavy the front end is compared to a 450 4t ktm, when we had to lift over a gate.
If you only make two modifications to the bike, get a Seat Concepts seat cover kit, and change the sprockets to 13/42. Makes it a great, all-around, ride-all-day machine.
What did everyone pay for their 250l? I’ll start, I bought one just this morning it’s a 2016 with 1k miles for $3800. About as cheap as I could find one
Hi I’ve been watching your videos, just had one question. I’m 48 years old I’ve always had motorcycles just looking to get into the Dual sport bike. I’m never going to do hard-core off-road riding my only worry is I weigh 260 pounds will this bike be OK with my weight?
Im Short and Fat, bought a KLR 650 and its too tall for me to take off road. I was going o get a CRF 250 Rally or a KLX 250. Was leaning towards the CRF 250 Rally until saw your comments about top heavy. Do you think with my height of 5'7" the KLR would be a better choice?
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Nailed it.
I'm flattered you think so
@@DorkintheRoad #7 Affordable. Whether you buy new or used, assuming you buy even a little "right", you are getting a ton of bike for the money, and if the off chance you hate it, you should probably take only a small hit.
#8 Stupid long maintenance intervals.
I bought a 2019 new in Feb of this year, and have about 2,500 miles on it already. Whether is putting around the neighborhood on some made up errand, or taking a weekend trip, this thing just does it. Maybe not the best in any one category, it just does so many things decently.
@@waltermitty7452 They seem to hold their value. Been looking at replacing my ancient (heavy) XR650L with a 250, and the used 250L prices are higher than I expected. Obviously cheaper than new, but an indication that you can count on it holding it's value over time. The other 250 I'm looking at is the KLX.
@@orangelion03 That's what I found as well, and one of the reasons I ended up buying a new one. To me, they held their value so well, the gap between new and used wasn't all that great....or at least to me wasn't the discount that I wanted. Also, since I plan to keep my bike for a very long time, it tends to be the way to go for me. Good luck with your purchase.
@@DorkintheRoad Given the choice of 1, you would pick the DRZ400, over the Honda? I'm about to purchase one or the other. Thanks!!
Called a place in town yesterday looking for a used KLR650. They said 'sorry but we sell Hondas. we have a 2019 CRF250L Rally'. I say, 'hey, what's that? this is my first bike.' so they convinced me to come down in the morning to sit on it. I changed my mind. then I saw this video (and a couple others) and tomorrow I'm going straight to the bank and then calling the shop and buying the bike. I can tell you mean everything you're sayin here and I just know it's the right choice. plus it'll match my 2014 CRV, which is like a family member of mine (5500 uber trips, 160k mi in 3 years, countless night practically living out of it, flooring it across the Arizona desert). Thanks Mr. Dork! really looking forward to being a part of this community
You are right on with these 6 points. I absolutely love mine. Sure I dumped $4000 in upgrades into her. But that's because I loved the bike so much in stock form that I thought it was worth it to upgrade her to her full potential. Now cruising at 60 to 70 is no problem, single track...no problem, ID-BDR...no problem. I do need to mention that I rode a KLR650 before this, so this bikes seems really light to me. I went a little overboard with my mods, but in my opinion absolutely must haves are: RaceTech suspension front and rear (get the valves in the front and have a good shop do it for you. Really transforms this bike), FMF exhaust (any larger header and muffler will do, but this bike needs to be "uncorked"), EJK fuel controler (needed for next mod), 305cc Big Bore Kit (This is what really makes the difference, adds torque to the entire rev range, you can pull on the highway, and don't have to slip the clutch as much in the slow stuff. Get a service manual, watch some videos on it, take your time, torque everything to spec, follow break in procedures. Anyone can do this themselves, just take your time with it.). If your ever up in WA, around I-90 Snoqualmie area and need suggestions on where to go riding, hit me up.
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Same position as you klr, still feel positive about the 250? Thanks
😬👍the 305bigblock really made the difference.I loved that bike till I totalled it🙈...than chose to stay on the street and ride naked bike since
Thanks man, just wish they would have given it the few extra inches of ground clearance the 300L got. But still happy with the bike.@@TheUncommonKIBBLES
Last I checked, my friend that I sold the KLR to is still riding it and was at 46,000 miles (no issues). I think EverRide said it best: The KLR is one of the few bikes in Kawasaki's lineup that doesn't have ninja in the name. But if it was a ninja, it would be the fat, 40-year-old ninja that could still kick your butt...lol I have been moving more towards single track and less road. So I am thinking of moving to full dirt bike. But for the Adventure riding I was doing, that bike is perfect IMHO. Just heavy enough to handle reasonably on the Hwy, but light enough to do single track (if you are a decent rider), and forest service roads like a champ.
Just bought a new one from a dealer. The bike has an upgraded suspension and gearing and then wasn’t bought by the intended buyer. Love it!
Do you know what the upgrade was to the suspension? I am currently wanting to buy one but hesitant with a few of the concerns like the weight of it and the suspension.
@@kennyemhardt7027 I do not. Sorry. But basically it stiffened it.
The bike is heavy for single track, but 100% fine for forest service roads. The suspension was super soft stock, but honestly, for normal forest service roads, it was just fine. If you want to push it harder, you are going to find it's limits really quick. @@kennyemhardt7027
I just purchased a 2017 model today. Two sets of wheels (one street- one knobby) upgraded seat & exhaust. Looks new. I just rode it around the parking lot... Smiles.
What words come to mind... "I just like it"... that why I purchased it. It will be used for cruising to the boat marina (5 miles of pavement) or on local logging roads by the river.
No racing- just an older guys bike. I use to Motocross race Open Class and 250cc class back in the day.. like many days ago. and work in a motorcycle shop for a period as a mechanic.
This Motorcycle just brings a smile to my face.... Like petting your bird dog after a good retrieval...
I bought a 2014 in September 2023 on a whim. Didn’t do any research on it or anything and absolutely love it!
Your subscribers are 250L owners or want one, so please keep always making videos about this great machine without changing. Thanks for the nice videos.
I bought a 2018 250 Rally in July of 2019, and I have hardly ridden my 2014 BMW F800GS since! It's just so much fun, and I feel more comfortable going places I hesitated taking the BMW due to the weight difference. The 250 Rally has done everything and anything I've asked of it. Can't wait for summer 2021 to do some WABDR routes on it.
Thanks I love yer comments!! Just my 10 cents worth. I bought a low miles 2018 250L last year and really started to enjoy her. I fitted an Arrow exhaust and a BMC air filter and then had the ECU flashed and wow she was transformed!! Sooooo much better to ride, more flexible and free revving and only perhaps 3 more horses but thats more than 10 percent so she felt like I had fitted a 450cc engine (almost).
So why am I now selling her, I hear you ask? Well. The bike lived her first 4 years in the wet, cold and salty UK. And she is now as rotton as a carrot!!! Looking at her she looks great BUT get her up on a ramp and weep....even the engine cases are rotting!!
This bike is made in Honda Thailand. They make bikes to a price point. The frame on mine is rotting. The OEM exhaust is rusted very badly. The wheels are totally rotten.
I own a stock CRF250L 2019 model for over a year now and it replaces my Transalp 600. I have no problems going onto the motorway and keeping up with traffic, going 110kmph (70mph) still leaves me some throttle room to takeover traffic in front. A thing to note is, powerwise, the CRF250L likes to be driven at higher revs, doing that will wake it up significantly. I agree with the seat and suspension upgrades, especially on long rides. Looking at the total package; it's light enough, it has power enough... everything is just enough and that's what you should expect from it, it does the job and simply never breaks. No I'm not a 'beginner' and I do drive the bike very happily. Could it be better? Maybe, but that also goes for all other bikes.
It likes the RiPMs
I'm 60, and have had dozens of bikes and now ride this bike. I like it.
Absolutely nailed it - after 2 years on a 2016 everything you say here is true - @2:16 - suspension - easy fix - when I did the fork seals recently I topped up with 15 weight fork oil and put in 30ml more than the manual - suspension improved considerable for no money at all. Surprising how few gold actually even wind the rear Pre-load up - then saw its “too soft” - all above applies to me (@80kg) - everything else 100% agree “charming and surprising” is the perfect description - sooo cheap and billet prof too.. goes everywhere all my riding buddies go - big bikes fast bikes etc ... it won’t win the race (it’s a 250!) but it will get there with the right rider !! Easy bike too, on road or off, so you can give it to anyone without fear.
Bought a lightly used CRF Rally as my first (and currently only) street motorcycle - previous owner had only put 3700 miles on, barely broken in really. Have put ~5500 miles on it in 14 months of ownership, and really love it as a weird dual-sport/ADV-lite hybrid. It's a brilliant commuter, and will even do a fair bit of highway mileage for lack of a bigger tourer. At my weight of 175 lbs, it'll hang at 75-80 cozily all day at sea level. I've put Progressive springs up front tuned for my weight, and currently have it on Shinko 705s since trails/forest roads are SO far away, and the P/O had put on a 12v socket and rear toprack, but otherwise it's all stock. I intend on keeping it as long as it'll run, and eventually doing some serious touring once long-distance travel is viable again.
I just picked up a CRF250L Rally after riding a Rally Raid CB500X for 5 years. The CB was an excellent all-rounder, but never quite ticked the 'fun' box for me. No question, the Rally is fun to ride and encourages me to explore a wider range of roads and trails. Sure, it's not the lightest, but if I can pick it up by myself I'm going to explore more, and that's the point of these bikes.
Your a tough guy then. I got my Rally upside down once on a steep hill the thing wouldn't lug up. When I tried to turn around in the single track situation I was stupid enough to get in it got upside down. Honestly I could not recover the bike alone. I couldn't get it back on 2 wheels. I know nothing but there is something about MY Rally that seems to put all the weight topside!
My 2018 250 is really good. Surprisingly quick for what it is. Very top end heavy but once you learn how to control it it fine. But I am 6’5 and 250lbs but it ride spectacular and I’ve never had a problem with mine. I fitted bigger motocross tyres to it because I like throwing it round off-road 90% of the time, the back tyre does tend to catch the stock exhaust but you don’t notice it apart from the point on where it catches looks polished. I abuse mine on a daily and it loves everything I do and it’s so much fun
You popped up on my recommendations yesterday and I keep seeing you! I shopped an AT and ended up with a Super Tenere. Now I want a smaller dual sport and found a 2014 CRF250L and here you are AGAIN! Subscribed.
Welcome to the community!
I've got mine two months now and I will say that this bike is an absolute beast, I'm loving my 2017 model
Just bought one today, are used 2017 model with get this 289 miles on it.
Bought it from a 78 year old man who purchased it five years ago, drove it a few times to relive some of his youth. And then put it in his garage and drove it probably 10 miles a year after the first week he owned it.
I came across it from a buddy of mine. It is his uncle and I think I got a stellar deal let $3500. And that included a rally windshield and soft bags for the back.
As you say it's capable, very capable. It's greatest weakness is the suspension, not the geometry but the entry level components. Which means suspension mods. Racetech is reasonable for the front end, springs and emulators, unfortunately there's really nothing to do with stock rear shock, which means replacement. Fortunately there are a few option but they do feel expensive. Three years in on an Ohlins and I'm still very happy I went that way, it's worth every penny. I think the most amazing thing about the little CRF is that it is "charming" I've ridden for years and this bike gets more positive comments and reactions than anything I've owned, it's a huge bonus. You know what they say "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" and that seems how people react to it!
I agree, you nailed it! I also have a 2016 CRF250L, bought it after learning to ride (at 30) on a cheap 81 Yamaha DT175 and deciding I was hooked and wanted a bike more modern and roadworthy. It's been great and sure takes a beating, but I did have a catastrophic problem that could've blown it up if i hadn't noticed,, but it was a real freak situation... Stalled going up a ledge on a trail near Moab, bailed off the bike, and it landed on the ledge while smashing the rear brake pedal through the oil filter cover resulting in a leak, a failed attempt to jb weld the hole, a hike out, barely catching a ride back to my truck, overnighting parts, driving to get parts, hiking in, crossing fingers and riding out! Was a hell of an adventure! I now carry a spare cover just in case.
I also picked up a 2000 DRZ400E project I have about all set to get back on the road/trail so love watching all your vids!!
I’ve had a 250L , XR650L and a 450L in that order. I sold my 450L and was going to buy another 250L and trick it out. For some reason of the 3 I just loved that 250. I know its heavy and a little underpowered , suspension could use a bit of an upgrade but still was my favorite. So what to do..... I decided to try the new 300l (base model, no abs). I feel that it’s going to fit my needs better and I’ll still have that 250L giddy feeling. I’m 58 retired and got back into dual sport riding in 2014 with the 250L. I didn’t care for the 650 or the 450 so here we go...... lol. CRF300L should be here in feb or March. Which is fine with me since we just got “another” 10” of snow last night. Happy trails everyone.
Just bought one for my wife 😉 thanks for good video, best regards from Lithuania
Picking one up Tuesday and just came across this video. Can’t wait!
You made an excellent choice
Welcome to the club, you'll love it!
Nice! I got a 2020 in June and can’t stay off of it!
Awesome. I'm doing my A2 and I think this'll be my first bike!
I had a 250 l for three years and I rode it everywhere my only regret is selling it God I miss it
Purchasing one for my son this weekend. 1st bike learning in the dirt first. Bike has only 7k for 2,000.
Subscribed to your channel.
For your viewers who might want to see what the 250 is capable of, a Dutch girl it riding all over Africa back roads on season 5 of Itchy boots. Doing high mountain passes and open deserts. She does exceptional video production. I can't help but promote her.
I enjoyed your review. I have the bike befor the 250. It's the 230L. A smaller air cooled bike. Not quite as capable, I really like it. And super reliable as well.
Cheers
I bought my CRF because of your reviews! Thank you!
Best bike Ive ever owned.lm 62 and had many motorcycles.honda out did them self on this one.
I bought a CBR600F4i as my first bike and I love it but I think I will add a CRF250L too! Looks like great fun
@David Mclamore on a Fireblade now 😂
I love my 2017 rally, I have driven 14k miles to date and no problem & alot of fun :)
Hey DITR, by virtual of your influence I have a 2020 CRF250L ABS w/ 150 miles on it (broke my shoulder during some slow speed figure-eights AND then my tail-bone & right hip from a fall in the shower). I can hardly wait to get back on the horse! I am going to buy the best-affordable gear I can get before getting back on!
I hope you heal up quick!
I thought you were going to say you broke all this parts rideing . I hope you get better fast funny post 👍
That'll teach you to not ride in the shower and I would definitely stay off a horse!😂
Thank you for all the great information about the Crf250l I just picked one up and I am loving it
Its going to be a first bike hopefully, probably for off-roading with my cousins and uncles and possibly school and work
I’ve got a 2013 crf 250l and love it I’ve had it about three years without having to do anything except oil changes great bike always ready to go
Absolutely agree
Great video as usual! I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of the Honda 250 L. My first bike was a 1982 185 XL and I can’t remember when I had so much fun on a motorcycle!! As always, enjoyed watching your videos . 😁👍🏻🏍
I bought this bike brand new early this summer. Black version. I'm working my ass off to pay this bike but I don't regret buying it. I'm a noob enduro rider but I'm already riding through/over stuff I didn't expect to do so soon.
Awesome! Just keep riding and you'll keep improving!
Rented one in Maui. Great bike! I'll keep the 790R but I get the appeal. Nice video.
Thanks for watching. Glad to hear you are loving your KTM
Bought one yesterday based upon your comments - thanks 👍
Just cought this video a year later! Was looking at your klr video and thinking of "upgrading" to it for the larger engine. I have a 2015 250 l that I had bought new. I love it. Your droid comparison was spot on!
Anyway, I'm keeping it! You've convinced me. !
I am looking at a ton of dual sport bikes......and I keep going back to the CRF 250L
It's a great bike!
In the 1st year I owned my 🏍️💨 I put 3000 miles on my 250L rally! And far from the perfect bike but I wouldn't trade it for anything else
2014 CRF250L owner here; I have 6 bikes in my garage. It’s my favorite! 😀
What?6?Wow you really love them.That means a lot to me.I will get one.Im really sure
Nice video. I think this is what people need to see if they are considering a CRF250L. A normal decent guy with nothing to gain by bullshitting, giving an opinion of how it feels to own one and how much fun you had on it. At the end of the day most of us ride for the fun which is another way of saying it makes us feel good. I ride mine on back roads to get to local bushland where I ride easy trails. I love the whole experience and the bike is perfect for what I want. Did I mention its also cheap to run, what a bonus!
Thanks, man!
I just want to say that this review was one of the reasons I ended up buying a 250L rally last April.
I'm also looking into one because of his videos
Got my 2018 Rally last week - out again this afternoon because it's just fun. And we need a bit of that!
I picked up a used Rally in June during lockdown and echo everything you say. Mine is bog standard, and it's perfect. I wish I'd have bought it first too (my first was a G650GS). Surprisingly capable on the motorway. Not found anything yet it can't do offroad (but I'm pretty new to this thing). All the mechanical stuff is solid and easy to maintain.
Glad to hear you're loving it!
Just picked up a 2020 model last week and for what I’ve used it for it’s been great. Time will tell if I really love it but so far it’s been fun.
Awesome! Congrats!
How is it? I’m thinking about getting one, you think it could do 40 mile highway commute?
@@jonathanesqueda3452 Hi Jonathan, it could do it but I think the rally would be better, if I’m honest if you need a bike to commute there is probably a better bike for it.
Great videos 👍, just bought a 2019 Crf 250L about a month ago and love it. No better way to describe the bike.
I sold my '15 CRF250L a few months back...kinda missing it. I got a GREAT deal on a new, old stock 2018 NC750X with the DCT (CDN $9300 OTD), and in as much as I enjoy the bike, it is a PIG compared to the CRF. Yeah, sure the CRF is heavy for its category, but the NC at 507 lbs and the turning radius of a Big Rig is really cumbersome in my double wide driveway to pull out and put away. The CRF managed low 80's MPG imp. vs. 90+ MPG on the NC in Sport One mode...and the "frunk" is frickin' awesome. Also, with the added kickstand, chain maintenance is a breeze. Personally, I never liked to ride the CRF on the 400 series highways here in Ontario, but the NC is right at home on the highways.
I'm sure another CRF is in my future, but for now, with the type of riding I do, there is too much overlap with these bikes to justify the cost of owning the second bike. Absolutely loved it when I had it...it was just more fun.
Just got a 2014 model for my very first motorcycle this month! Im only 4'5" and 140lbs so feeling that top heavy weight for sure, tipped over a couple times while stopped but obviously still learning how to throw my weight around it but got it because everyone said ITS A TANK. It came with the same rack and skid plate as you + a radiator cover. I intend to learn more in the dirt but I also live in the Bay Area and will be commuting maybe 18-25round trip over a bridge a few times a month. Would you recommend mod'ing it with some lighter upgrades so I can whip it around in the dirt easier? Or is the weight more in my favor if I end up in more windy situations on the highway.... sure eventually I'll just get more then 1 bike but gotta start somewhere.
Nice 👍 I'm thinking of getting one for a second bike, for small adventures. Did your 2016 come with abs?
I had one. Clutch upgrade, fork upgrade and that’s all you need. Reliable as the day is long. Always running at the end of the as long as you’re not stupid. Just add gas to the tank and ride it forever.
Great video. I got back into bikes 6 years ago with a 250L. It was a 2015 and was told it was the second one here in Arizona. That morphed into a Husky 449 then a KLR to a F 800 GS to my all time favorite bike. 2017 Africa Twin. I agree it is a great bike and under appreciated. That being said the DRZ 400 would be my choice for a smaller second bike to go along with the AT. See great minds think alike. 😃
I recently got asked if I wanted to buy a friends 2018 250L and I jumped at the chance... Should be getting it around the end of march / beginning of april of this year and I am super excited to get it. While my main bike is a 22 KLX300DS, I have wanted a 2nd bike around in case my wife wanted to ride or when my kids visit and want to ride... I think this 250 is going to be fantastic for that, and as they are even more beginnerish (new word? :D) than me, I think it should be a comfortable, dependable, and controllable bike for them to get their feet wet on :) And yes, your video's on the 250L make me even more confident this was a good decision!
Love your video ! I have the 2020 CRF - 250 LA. I put a FMF pipe on mine / not the whole thing but the end piece is all. Seemed to help alittle bit ! Next i'm going to get the after market air cleaner that has more ability to suck more air ! Next i'm going for the Power Commander that plugs in under the seat for better mapping of the fuel ! Then I'm getting the sprocket kit that comes as gold to match the upper front forks . Its only the back sprocket that has just 2 more teeth ! I'm only doing this to my bike to make it more playful ! This is why it feels top heavy in the corners because it dosen't have enough power & throttle response ! I love the bike so far ! But it does need these changes to make it safer & funner to ride ! I'm doing this for the trails & woods ! Just sayin '
Nice video. Just picked up a 19 250L. I'll let you know how it goes. What mods or accessories is a must for those that have one?
You haven't told us how it goes, liar .
I really like your input 👍 Maybe the front suspension is squishy to help improve braking on hard surfaces like the road by allowing weight to transfer to the front quickly. This would be extremely beneficial to a beginner!!! Their target market for this bike most likely isn't taking it to the MX track or even up the steep rocky rooted hill climbs so it's perfect 👌
Thank you for making this video 👊😎
I really hope it's that intentional and agree that could be helpful for a beginner. I have to wonder if it's not also just a result of cost-saving measures leading to cheaper parts in the forks and the fact that like you say they don't really expect most riders to do any "serious" off roading on it.
Thanks for watching!
Only one fork has a spring in it, the other fork has the valuing. One of the first upgrades I did was install a race tech spring in the empty fork and changed the fork oil in both. Have never had an issue since.👍🏻
@@Droptineful yeah that makes more since... Sounds just like an old street bike 😉
Got mine recently and it is a pretty nice bike ☺️
Getting one tomorrow! Stoked!!!!
Thanks brother i have been planning on buying one i subscribed to you appreciate it.
I appreciate it! Thanks for the sub!
Just bought a 250l as my first bike today. Thank you so much for your video, it's made me a lot more confident in my choice and I'm sure I'll have a heap of fun on it. Sounds like it's exactly what I'm looking for as a beginner. Thanks again for the informative vid!!
How are you enjoying it so far? Content with your purchase? Looking to buy my first bike an as Red Honda Civic Owner this surely looks like it’s gonna be my first bike
@@yossiawaka9787 you won't regret it. It's been a solid reliable ride so far, pretty comfortable on the road too. The front suspension is a little soft off road but that's of course something which can be upgraded and improved if you want. Best of luck with your buy
If you like that crf you would have loved the XR250L. They were lighter, more powerful, better suspension (arguably).
I would love to have one of those.
you are a great sales-man .
good video review.
A very honest, and spot on review. Cheers and enjoy
great channel, just found you, subscribed and liked. I own a 2015 GS1200 and love it, but as an average rider of average height and closing in on retirement age, I'm after a smaller cheap and reliable adventure bike to go with the GS. when I reach 65 next year and can access my super I'll be buying the latest GS which I'll keep for the rest of my riding life but the current "other duel sport in the shed" is a 2011 Honda crf450x, set it up for adventure but the regular oil changes are becoming a pain so I've been looking at the 250L for a long time now. I love the 450 power but it's peaky and is highly strung. I haven't ridden a 250 for a long time but as everyone says"it does everything" and sounds like a great budget and reliable do everything buddy for the GS. this video is a great insight from someone that owns a DRZ as well so I value your opinion. great work Dork, I'm a tech head too so relate totally to the site (ex-avionics technician, Australian Airforce) will check out the other videos soon. Awesome work.
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
I'm in the same boat. I've had dozens of bikes, but was happy to sell my CBR liter bike and Concours and get a new CRF250L. I love it! Low maintenance, high mpg, easy to ride bike that turns around in its own lane. I'm done riding big and fast, now it's all about fun and with a new seat concepts seat it's as comfortable to ride a your favorite pair of blue jeans.
hello there..Ive got a klr 650 2004 and thinking of changing it with a crf 250l or rally would you think it will be a big diference.i m not a.speedfreak my self mostly comuter maybe some trail and a couple of small excursion hihway.I just woory about the back rider my wife..im 70kilos and she s normal but i dont know how well the crf can handle two persons..anyway nice video....
I've had this bike for a few years and I'm a big fan. You missed the most important thing. The fuel tank is to small. I live on this bike. It's my everything. Full biker no car. I have to change the wheels bearings once a year and get the oil and filters changed every now and then. The main thing I buy is tyres. Full tank of fuel down the freeway melted my indicator once. I've got vids if you want to check haha
I had thicker shock oil put in and it helped a lot with the front. I still bottom it out though often 👍. I'll give you a sub seem as though you love the L 👌🤣
Agreed. Small fuel tank is often annoying.
How much would you pay for a second hand one. Love the vid
I love my two bikes CRFL 250 , the best ones
Was going to buy now but in Australia they announced a 300 version but march April release. I don't know if I can wait. Your vid was awesome and makes me want again
EXCELLENT!
You know I looooove my 250L!
Hey! Loved the video. I’m looking at getting a CRF250L but I’m not too sure on size. I’m 6’1” 185lbs. Will this bike be a solid size? I know the suspension will need an upgrade as well.
Cool video man I always enjoy watching your videos, also the 2nd gen 250 was a lot better had like 0.5 TQ + 1.5 HP More they redid the airbox gave it a bigger header pipe blah blah lol & tach with RPM. I did an ECU tune on mine with the slip-on exhaust, barkbusters handguards & crash bars skid 🍽️ combo even with my gear I weigh like 180-lb suspension is soft but with my weight pretty good (165 normal weight)
Good review. What is your aprox. height and weight? Thanks
My 1st bike was a 1980 xl250. I was 15 saved up 1200 dollars. Tag was 1395 offered 1200 out the door. Rode it home no drivers license.
Did you get an aftermarket seat? If so how much better is it for long rides & which you try?
Watching your video now and looking at a CRF250L with all the mods that one would need. The price is steep but it is all there. Definitely cheaper than doing it myself. Also I took my 07 V-strom 650 down Black Bear Pass and I hear when you say it is heavy but compared to my 600 lbs + with gear I'm sure taking the CRF on offroad adventures will be a breeze!
My question what to buy from - 2013 yamaha wr250r, 4k miles
2019 yamaha xt250, 10k miles
2019 kawasaki klx250, 1k miles
2017 honda ckr250, 3k miles
In my area colorado at a shop they are all $3500 used.
Whats the best??
Just bought one you are on the mark dork love it
CRF250L, XR250R & CB900F Hornet
Sorted
Spot on my man! Love mine and I totally agree with your analysis. Made me laugh!
nice video, i like the headlamp on the rally, can it be fitted to the L model?
Cat sighting at 7:25 wasn't chungus but the other...while talking about droids following you....LOL
That actually was Chungus. Nobody else has a light colored tail 😂
What do you think about one 2017 year model, 1k miles $for 4,000 in California. Or should I buy a brand new 300L?? New rider here.
First time dual sport buyer. Considering CRF or Yamaha WR250R. 30 mile commute on backroads road work, some single track, and general ripping around for errands and afternoon fun. Lots more CRFs to be found where I am in Oregon, but have heard legendary tales of WR. Seems like WR is maybe a little more trail capable, but the CRF is friendlier for newer riders. Any thoughts?
You nailed it right on the head. Both great bikes but CRF is easier to ride and the WR is more capable
I have mine for 7 years now, and the love is still there. Anyone can ride and enjoy this bike. There are no wow factors but its just a great bike overall and what a tank it is, never had any problems with it.
The same cant be tell about my 4yo 450x that I had to be rebuilt twice...
thanks!! Going to buy a used 250 partially based on this great review!
How would it be with a passenger? Need something for camping
It's technically possible but I wouldn't recommend it for anything beyond short distances. Consider a KLR or DR650 if you want to go 2up
Can you swap out the fork springs for stiffer springs and put heavier fork oil in the forks to make it a little better? I had a 97 xr 250 years ago and done that and worked great also converted an 02 cr250r to a woods bike and softened the forks by changing the springs and fork oil and that worked great to
People have done it and had good results.
I found I was spending too much time on the Highway, so I bought a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 but I found I loved my Honda CRF250L too much and I could not sell her. Oh well, now I own 2 bikes.
Hello Dork, any comment here? I'm 67 and a solid experienced rider dirt and street...but no expert. 5'11" 155 lbs and considering a 250 Rally vs XT250....any comment?
hello, thank you for the informations, is there an Acerbis 12.5 liters tank that fit this bike ?
can you advise any carrying side bags brand for this bike ?
is there any wind shield that can be fitted , more or less like the one from the CRF300 rally ? (for the long trips on roads)
Excellent review and spot on, got the bike first then found the video :) My other trusty stead is a Super Blackbird, but the only real problem I am having with the CRF is it came lowered and on super moto's, I have put it to stock and off road wheels but now the side stand seems to be 2 inches short and the bike wants to fall over.
How do you like the CRF250L? I’m looking to get one but I’m not too sure on if it’ll fit me good. I’m 6’1” 185lbs. Thanks!
@@itz_brando_yo it is a great bike, i had to drop the front sproket down a tooth and add 2 on the back, massive difference, i would probably go for a 2t 300 something next however as i was shocked how heavy the front end is compared to a 450 4t ktm, when we had to lift over a gate.
found one, owned by a Gal,, looks clean 2014 15k miles. Asking 4k..I'm outta touch with prices...what do you think?
You summed it up pretty good there.
Thank you!
I've got 3000 miles on my Rally. It's a great bike, but you're right, the stock seat isn't comfortable.
If you only make two modifications to the bike, get a Seat Concepts seat cover kit, and change the sprockets to 13/42. Makes it a great, all-around, ride-all-day machine.
Is there any way to maybe add some kind of small metal rack to the back of it, to be able to strap down a (no more than 50 liter) pack to?...
What did everyone pay for their 250l? I’ll start, I bought one just this morning it’s a 2016 with 1k miles for $3800. About as cheap as I could find one
I bought a 2017 Rally with 2200 miles for $3900
I just got a 2016 with 25k kilometres (15k miles) for around 1650USD I need to put around 700usd into it to make it road legal
I got my crf250l 2017 brand new at $5900
$3500 for a 2016 with about 700 miles. Required a good cleaning and the break-in oil change.
@@scmorton8 You did good. Enjoy it!
Hi I’ve been watching your videos, just had one question. I’m 48 years old I’ve always had motorcycles just looking to get into the Dual sport bike. I’m never going to do hard-core off-road riding my only worry is I weigh 260 pounds will this bike be OK with my weight?
It was fine for me at 325, so you'll be more than fine at 260. That's about what I weigh now.
Im Short and Fat, bought a KLR 650 and its too tall for me to take off road. I was going o get a CRF 250 Rally or a KLX 250. Was leaning towards the CRF 250 Rally until saw your comments about top heavy. Do you think with my height of 5'7" the KLR would be a better choice?
Honestly all dual sports are gonna be top heavy. If you're really worried about seat height I might recommend checking out the TW200 or XT250.
Did you figure out the USB issue? Whats a goodprice for a 2017 with 1500 miles?
How much would you pay for a 2015 crf250l with 2500 miles.would appreciate your input,1st time buyer and really have no idea.thanks