I grew up with a mentally Ill brother . It’s heartbreaking. Because you love them. You want them to be ok. Wish they’d be cured. Wish they take their meds.
I grew up next door to Rita (RIP) from 1989-2000. Since their house is no longer occupied, anyone curious, it is adjacent to the right of 53 Colorado Dr, St Clair. As a child I only assumed her to be the lifeblood of her family as a sweet, giving, selfless woman that put loved ones at a high priority. This is surreal. I hope her memory is cherished by those around her for all the beneficent deeds she undoubtedly joyously took part in.
@@katehobbs2008 The manslaughter charge is being exploited here. Manslaughter should be reserved for where negligence leads to the death of someone that was not intended. This is quite clearly not the case here.
The judges sentence by the guidelines set by other people in parliament, they're the ones who need to have these people as neighbours when they get released. Same here in the uk imo, I'm very liberal in general but I have my limits. A full life sentence meaning life is fairer and safer, she had enough chances. It's Rita, Rita's daughter and grandson who I feel bad for, the killer should never feel freedom again.
Wow that 4 year old boy is totally a littie hero 🦸♂️ I pray he will recover from this trauma & have a wonderful future & a life filled with joy faith & love 💓
We used to have mental institutions for these people, so they are not a danger to the community. Releasing mentally ill people and offenders into the community might save the government money, but it's a recipe for disaster.
In reality releasing them in the community is not any cheaper than keeping them in institutions in cases where they are sent to prison. In fact it costs the taxpayers far more money to keep them in jail than in a institution. So it’s not always cheaper to release them in the community from an institution
@@williamwalker8106 Which makes it even more inexcusable that mentally unwell people who have a propensity for violence are allowed to wander around the community, when this has led to a loss of life in this case and other cases like the guy in Stanmore waiting for a bus a few years back.
Having mental illness doesn't mean you should be caged away! Any individual who has a mental illness have the right to live in the community. The more severe cases can have a supported plan with the 24 hour monitored supported independent living and appropriate medications (care teams, case workers, all coordinated with psychiatric team, GP ect). All people no matter if healthy or not should be treated as humans, not caged animals. Now for this case, this individual did a horrific crime and she should be jailed. There is consequences to the actions she took that day and she is where she belongs. By the sounds of this case her mother tried to take on the full burden in supporting her daughter. The mother and or other family should have seeked serious psychiatric help and community services Coordinated help, she didn't. There were signs leading up to this with her agressive dangerous behaviour. If there were some serious intervention, would we be discussing this now? Who knows! This is a very sad case and many will learn from this.
This case is rare. Mental health issues don’t automatically spell disaster. I couldn’t imagine my son in a horrible place like so many institutions that went under because of over crowding and low staff. Those children and adults lived in squalor. The big school in Long Island NY. Omg when they showed them without clothing living in their own feces and urine having 1 spoon to shovel food into 100 patients mouth. 1 spoon. That’s awful. Today we have much higher number than in our past. There simply aren’t enough places or people that are truly equipped to handle special needs. My son wouldn’t be the good kid he’s without me. I am his support his everyday person. He’s higher functioning now compared to when we started. He was non-verbal until age 3-4 he still gets jumbled but can talk. I did pay 39,000$ for 7 years for his private school until he transitioned into public school. He is a good person wouldn’t hurt a fly. He doesn’t have anger problems he can get upset or angry just like anyone but his chooses define him. He will sit down and breath, meditate to calm himself down that’s what he was taught by me. It works he’s a teen now that comes with other challenges however so far it’s been ok. Again proper care helps. I think this mom was overwhelmed everyday with her daughters behaviors. My sons behaviors are really normal so I can’t imagine the terror this mom had to go thru. Tragic. I also don’t know about the kind of care that they provided her in Australia. Especially the area that she was in. Who knows what she could afford and what she couldn’t afford. Institutions cost a lot now because in order to provide proper care. It’s not minimal it’s 1,000 of dollars a month. Times have changed and I know ASD has skyrocketed along with other disorders those afflicted with multiple issues that’s hard for anyone especially a single older mother. I am surprised her other child didn’t give her more support it seems she was also watching her grandson while this was happening that’s too much to ask if a mother. Again I hear her stuff I don’t recognize any similarities between my son and this person. ASD not normally violent. If that person has defiant opposition behaviors that is another separate diagnosis on top of ASD. ADHD anther anxiety another list goes on. Most ASD only have ASD or anxiety with it. Sometimes ASD Anxiety ADHD. That’s a hard one. The more diagnosis’s you have the harder it is. You need experts to help. A therapist that sticks with that child from a early age to later so they are comfortable with that person. My sons had the same doctors his whole life including dental. They thrive in similarity not chaos. Anyways this was horrible. That child will be traumatized forever seeing that. I was traumatized listening to it. The movies should have never been introduced. Violent! Not good a regular kid would be scared or terrified by them but she was fascinated in the wrong way with them.
@@jennifermarshall4780 Thanks for sharing. It sounds like he grew up in a caring environment and household and also is not inherently violent. I guess it's a case by case basis and for some people, living at home with family is the right option. But it shouldn't be the only option, or simply the default option just to save money. What you detail (and what for instance was dramatised in Ken Kesey's book and then the film) is what led to the demise of the mental institution, but in 2021 it needn't be that way. A well resourced institution can be cost effective (eg using technology and automation where necessary or practicable) and developmentally effective. it all depends on the structure, intent, understanding and will of those running the institution.
The real problem here is the significant lack of a competent mental health system. All the early warning signs were there but no one did anything. Not the first and unfortunately it won’t be the last. A coronial inquest should be held so that formal recommendations can be made regarding the gross lack of care in the mental health system.
The mental health system in this country is great. It actually sounds like the mother and other family members didn't get her the adequate help she needed.
Psychopaths are best treated by the criminal justice system, not the mental health system. Obviously, having and acting upon criminal desires could be considered a mental health issue, but we have a better word for it: "criminal". Her mother really tried to do the right thing, I just wish that her mental health issues weren't used to get her out of doing time in prison. I think a few weeks in prison or a juvenile detention facility when she was younger for each of her assaults might have been helpful. I have been in a mental hospital a few times, and sorry for being perhaps selfish in not wanting to share such facilities with extremely dangerous people, but these places need to be safe environments as they are filled with extremely vulnerable suicidal, anxious and paranoid people who usually just need a couple of weeks somewhere safe. Please don't put psychopaths in with us. They are often the reason we needed to go to hospital in the first place.
Governments are required to provide such system(s). However therein lay limitations of funding. There are surely areas which will cry, endlessly for more. This is such an area.
That girl needed real meds! A real psychologist, psychiatrists and anger management. A naturopathic doctor isn’t going to fix that! Years of red flags! My son has autism and it doesn’t even seem like they have anything in common as far as ASD diagnosis. I kept getting upset every time she mentioned Autism. This has nothing to do with autism, people on the autism spectrum are not normally violent! I know there are some cases that are a little more severe than others and they can have meltdowns but never violence. Certainly not like this! Realistically you shouldn’t give your children that are super impressionable and visual and have a mental disorder films that show such graphic and gruesome images. It’s never a good idea. Especially if they become obsessed with those films. That’s when you throw them out the door!!! If they have a problem with that they will have to get over it! I know the “daughter” tried really hard to remove these films. It’s unfortunate that mother kept placating her giving the films back to her. I really feel bad for the mother, because she did not have proper help. The people that were helping her are not obviously in tune with what was going on. Hypnotherapy? I don’t even get that. How many diagnosis? Seems no one got the full picture until a tragedy happened! Not ok! We as parents need more help that’s reasonable financially. People who have children on the spectrum or any other mental health disorder. We as parents need all the help we can get and proper help! No being switched around to this person or that person. We shouldn’t have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars!!!! Good care can be so expensive one of my son schools from the age of three to nine was 39,000 a year. Strictly helping those with autism and ADHD and other disorders that are similar.
Props to Justice Helen Wilson for going through all this in such a professional tone. This is very disturbing and she did a great job to remain non judgemental, professional and compassionate despite the horror she witnessed.
that is her job as a Judge. to be impartial, to be a critical thinker, she must know all and be across all the rules, laws and legislations. She must complete law degrees and be a lawyer for at least 8 years before becoming a Judge. A Judge has to understand, analyse facts, think logically, rule on admissability, instruct juries on applicable laws, just to name a few. In other words, Judges are not your average Joe Blow and she must do all this with a perfect POKER FACE
Dealing with a mentally unwell family member over a long period must be one of most exhausting and stressful situations one can experience. May Mrs Camilieri rest in peace.
Seems she already has. Was reading an article saying that she is constantly harassed and moved around the prison due to inmates bullying and threatening her. Everyone in jail knows who she is and hates her.
Not many ppl would want to have to “deal” with this thing. Pity there wasn’t the death penalty for cases such as these. This thing can never be let loose in our society again. Sickening.
He's not freakin innocent for god sake!!! He hacked the bloody US government and published what he found. Regardless of whether you say he did the right thing or not he still committed the crime!
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 so, Dulce which do you think was the more serious crime? The murder of Innocent civilians that the American government tried to cover up, or the act of informing the public of the American government's terrible involvement?
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 The U.S.A Government is who committed the crimes literally. Assange only expose the truth for the criminal misconduct of the US government. In my eyes he is a national hero for exposing the truth and he did it with his life. What he found is absolutely shocking and should be exposed. The US government should be transparent with the people. Instead they hide their dark dirty little secrets from the American people. For heaven sake‘s they’re hiding the fact that there is alien life. We the people should know what the hell is going on in the world today.
@@joshuaowensjr8694 NOPE, I mean actual GORE TORTURE FOR HER💀🩸wasn’t that her hobbie, you get what you give, there’s no “oh I’m mentally ill so I have a free pass”
NARCISSISTS ARE DANGEROUS. How about we start focusing on properly identifying and dealing with these cancers of our communities... Seriously, how many more people have to suffer and die?!
IF THIS CRIME IS NOT CLASSED AS 'LIFE IMPRISONMENT WITH NO PAROLE IN THE BOOKS' YOU LEAVE A LOOPHOLE IN THE LAW , NEXT TIME THIS HAPPENS THEY WILL POINT AT IT AND MAKE A SOLID ARGUMENT ...... SOFT!
No loophole, but can open argument for a similar sentence. All depends how good the prosecution is. Most push for deals and sentences reduced for my liking.
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 Read what I said again. I never said it sets a precedent by the law. More that it opens up the opportunity to argue and make deals for lower sentences. I am not talking about the law itself. I don't think it will affect sentence with the majority of horrible murder cases down the track.
She should have been put into a psychiatric unit for the rest of her Life. 21 years for apparently diminished responsibility due to her mental health, reduced to manslaughter is not justice, it is disgraceful.... She butchered her mother, and she knew exactly what she was doing!! And if released, will definitively do this again.
The government closed down the Psychiatric/mental institutions many years ago. This left decision of the management/treatment of afflicted people, to their families and local GP's... and the assumptive diagnosis' of trained mental health experts.. In the case discussed here, no one got it right and a life has been taken. As for the perpetrator, I have some empathy, but to those who should and could have stopped it, I have none. You ignored it and it cost a life.
If I was the judge I would have sentenced her to Life imprisonment with a non parole period of 37 years The judge is right indeed this is one of the worst in fact the worst manslaughter case on NSW besides the unlawful killing of Samantha knight rip poor little girl 😭♥️
You can’t blame her actions on a disability when she clearly set out to look peoples company up through a mobile number come on if she’s disabled how did she do that her actions need to be held accountable for life she’s a danger to society.
Exactly the jury considered her bursts of anger towards random ppl for seemingly no reason as a sign of “human imagination” and so she lacks capacity or has delusions but thats not how delusions are and she admitted before that she lied about hearing voices just so she could be removed from a psych ward, she has full capacity and awareness of her actions she is just evil and narcissistic and no one has put her in her place yet
Reading out/giving the sentence is no easy task. There's punishment for the offender but there's also giving respect to those affected by the crime. Terrible events but the Judge gave a thorough assessment.
I think it is likely to be the reverse inside. The big girls in jail will probably need to have a healthy degree of "respect" for her, given what she has proved she is capable of. When a daughter doesn't even fear her mother and is ready to take her on and win, she needs fear no other female anywhere.... I think I'd avoid ever doing crime that could risk landing me in the same female prison as her. She is deadly!
Spare a thought to people in group homes that end up living with all the Jessica’s male and female who are assaulted and abused by them on a daily basis. If Jessica ever gets out of jail that is where she will be placed.
@@justheretocommentokdontwan685 Sadly, there are NO quick fixes available to the doctors and/or community (which she has largely alienated herself deliberately from as one of the tragic features of her illness), but at least those who study medicine - including very complicated and extremely challenging complex pathophysiology involved, with multiple cross complicating conditions such as in this instance, are TRYING TO HELP, by dedicating their life's work to attempting to reduce the inherent misery of these conditions and the toll they take on the sufferer and their loved one's, in the hope that someday, a cure might be found. At least they try. As opposed to those who merely universally blame doctors etc., for 1. Not having a magic wand to fix her, and 2. Blaming them for using the only methods they currently have at their disposal to reduce the suffering of such patients, yet while you sit and pass judgment you don't offer any viable alternative suggestions for helping to relieve cases like the one discussed above!?!.... So....... What's your suggested treatment for relieving the symptoms of such tragic cases? If you have a magic answer and know better than everybody else, then come on..... Spit it out.... There are millions of sufferers around the world just about dying to hear it and start treatment like, Yesterday Already!, so they can start living happier, more carefree lives.... And a lot of frustrated physicians too, who will be delighted that they can finally make their patients all better.. We'll be right here waiting for your gem of wisdom/marvel of modern medicine... Because - I guarantee you - if you have that magic quick fix and all the answers, I'll nominate you for the Nobel laureate myself!!....
I’ve Avoided Drs for Years.. I’m in the US. I have a Bf who disappears and then Comes Back... A Parent I despise, A Sister’s Husband I can’t stand... A Workplace I hate... A lot of times There’s no Help out There
@@mimimitch327 Because Australia is a colonial relic of the former British Empire and whenever Australians think of refinement, civilised culture, society, traditions,institutions etc, they think "English" and start to try and look and act all English and imitate them. Never mind that we only started out as a dumping place or remote far flung prison for English crime they had no room for back in England.... So that's why we still have all these old English ways, traditions, social behaviours when Australians want to put on airs and graces and appear refined, as they sometimes do, and actually are, though it is hard for the outside world to believe this. I live near a remote bush town here that was once visited by the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh to check out an Airforce base. They actually rode on a "royal train" (which old bush locals say was "just the normal peoples' train to Melbourne jazzed up a bit, cleaned up...). That happened way back in the early fifties but they still talk about how the Queen actually came out to the bush to see them, even now, I recently heard an interesting train conversation about this event between two oldies: She didn't come to see YOU! Who'd want to bother visiting YOU! It was my family. We were free settlers here and pioneers, not convicts. Go back to Sydney, where all the convicts are from!". I thought this was odd, given how many bushrangers and outlaws ranged over Victoria, my state...And, oddly enough, all those Sydney types who boast about their convict origins from the colonial days are also the types who are into all things royal and English and put on so many airs and graces, but in a vulgar, loud, crass Sydney style, unlike the more sedate, refined Melbourne style.
I pray the brave boy lives a happy life and gets through the trauma. There’s no help out there for her, she should be destroyed like an animal would be.
Actually she was treated by a renowned psychiatrist for years before this happened. She got lots of support and mental heath care prior to this incidence.
@@whysodamloud Oh sorry. TH-cam just played the next video. I've only just realised this was a year ago. I don't remember hearing about this case. I certainly never heard all these horrific details.
One has to recognise the difficulty the judge had in applying the legal requirements in the face of such a crime and given the known behaviour of the offender. One can only hope that by 2041 there is a method of ensuring the safety of the community. Given the number of offences she has already committed while in custody, it is unlikely she will be able to achieve the level of conduct required to warrant parole. The dilemma of rights of the individual who has diminished capacity will always be in conflict with the rights of community to be safe. While the wholesale incarceration of people with mental illness or disability is not necessary, there is still a need to confine those who pose a risk to others but that seems to be a moot point.
21 years? Well that is a long time. But we're talking about a clearly unstable individual who is a danger to everyone around them. She isn't going to stop just because she's been locked up.
Not really, because legal appeals process costs millions. Far better to have automation in prisons and keep prisoners that are violent locked up for longer at low cost.
@@yggdrasil9039 put the convict into a drug-induced coma thereby putting a health limited cap on the technicalities and games their lawyers can use to drag it out, run up costs because the process in the USA errs on the side of caution and the convict can rot in gaol for 20 years, and then they get religion so the creature put to death is not the same as the person who commited the crime
It would've been a nightmare to live with this woman, that said, it's apparent that some don't appear to comprehend the judge is confined in her judgements by the jury verdict & current sentences & legislation. I haven't seen one comment about how the government has systematically destroyed mental health facilities by closures & lack of funding, leaving defenceless families to take up the slack by taking the place of qualified professionals, no wonder when those families fracture & can't cope with a mentally ill loved one discontinuing medication & subsequent paranoia/breakdowns/violent outbursts, many many folks with mental health issues end up on the street. We need better solutions to these inherent societal problems.
@@amp279 I commented on this. But there other point is good too. The sentences for violent crime are 'manifestly inadequate', given that life expectancy is now 81.
@@DadSkool Me too. We have better ones in England. This one is a bit curly. In the UK we have long ones with large curls. This one does look a bit silly. Too much like a swim cap and no length. She needs a better wig.
My ex boyfriend has a son who exhibited many similar ehaviors od this horrible monster. I'm not at all insinuating he would have done something so horrific, but.....BUT. He began taking heavy drugs (which had a reputation for violent outbursts and delusion) and hanging out with older people with essentially nothing to lose who were into a plethora of illegal activities, ie robbing and beating people. They also regularly ragged about their guns and knives in social media. Well, my ex couldn't seem to understand why I didn't want to move into his house with his angry, doped up, violent son. He then began using the fact that I wasn't willing to subject myself to that kind of environment, gaslighting and insinuating his place wasn't "good enough" for me. What man would be ok subjecting his woman to potential harm?? He was a joke. You don't know what people are capable of, man. So glad I don't have to deal with ANY of that toxic bullshiit any longer.
Why are none of these medical professionals held accountable too I mean seriously a naturopath is going to do nothing in this situation it’s like taking her to an art class how ridiculous- my partner had a psychosis they gave him Valium said take him home no psychiatrist is here this weekend - that night he swam out to sea 2 kilometres in the middle of the night and nearly died hadn’t it been for fisherman finding him - these hospitals are atrocious including the therapists
When she handed down the sentence she said murder first then corrected herself, because clearly that's what it was but our justice system is weak as piss
Shes even more dangerous because she has multiple behavioral disorders and in 25 years time might dexide to get off the medication again and SNAP into another one of her rages. Watch out people.
Years ago patients who suffered from uncontrollable rages were given a lobotomy. I used to abhor this procedure, but listening to the details of this case, I wonder if this might not be suitable for the offender given she has no hope of rehabilitation, effective treatment, or a sane future. Transorbital lobotomy is rarely performed; however, shock therapy and psychosurgery (the surgical removal of specific regions of the brain) occasionally are to treat patients whose symptoms have resisted all other treatments.Feb 12, 2021
Le bajaron la sentencia solo porq fue capaz de "pedir ayuda"? O desear que la cabeza de su madre fuera colocada nuevamente en su cuerpo? Con eso vieron que ella no quería matar a su mamá y que se sentía culpable por lo que hizo?. Es una broma la sentencia Así cualq delincuente serial realizará una llamaba o pedir ayuda para minimizar su homicidio
RIP POOR RITA AND I HOPE THE LITTLE ANGEL RECOVERS AND I HOPE THAT GOD LOOKS AFTER HIM IN HIS LIFE AHEAD. I KNOW THAT JESSICA COULD NOT USE A TOILET AND WOULD WEE AND POO ON WEE WEE MATS THAT ARE USED FOR DOGS. RITA ONLY CARED A LOVED HER DAUGHTER OR DAUGHTERS AND GRAND CHILD I DO HOPE THIS HELPS JESSICA GET HER JUSTICE AND SHE CAN GET THE RIGHT MENTAL HEALTH NEEDED THERE IS ALOT OF HELP OUT THERE JUST NEED TO KEEP PUSHING I KNOW RITA REACHED OUT FOR ANY HELP FOR JESSICA AND WOULD GO WAY OUT TO GET THE HELP AND IT UNFORTUNATELY ENDED IN THE LOSS OF THE MOST LOVING ANGEL RITA SHE WAS ONE OF A KIND MOTHER AND VERY LOVING AND HELP ANYONE IM SORRY FOR KRISTY AND HER FAMILY AND THE BABY BOY WHO NOW HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS HURT AND PAIN MAY THE SUN SHINE AND BLESS YOU ALL LOVE AND BLESSINGS ALWAYS
Wow so the poor child was left with this nut in the car? Dam that kid not only witnessed the murder which is brutal enough but also much of the lead up to it......Bloody hell...She skipped crazy cat lady and went straight to postal.
As no hope of her restraining her own actions exist --in parallel with the evidence of the mental health system's own inability to deal with her condition(s)--, yet another daunting certainty will emerge. She is expected to offend upon release, regardless of her age, as she has proven that her rage is beyond restraint.
What good behavior? She's been assaulting fellow prisoners & police have been called to the jail, those will all have detailed accounts as well as prison officers/doctors/official write ups, if she continues with that, she'll end up doing the whole sentence because there's no reasonable justification for the governor to allocate her time off as there's documentation stating the opposite, that in fact her behavior hasn't been exemplary or incident free, so at this point you're comment is plain conjecture.
It was to allow all judges to be “the same”, to avoid “celebrity”. Or another words the judges “wig/robs” was to represent the court and the rule of law, that the Judge/Justice was its representative and their identity irrelevant to the proceedings.
If that were my kid I'd have signed away my rights and left her in a home. She was nothing but a drain t anybody that cared for her. Lock her away FOREVER. She is a broken, defective monster.
What a messed up law system. How do u cut of a person's head and not get life in prison. What a joke . Obviously the judge isn't mentally fit for the job. Plsase do a retrial with a judge who understands violent sick human behaviour.
Ahh, the expertologists and chattering classes know much better than judge and jury. What a pity they did not just ask you people. The offender is clearly as mad as a hatter and not competent, will end up in a psychiatric institution.
In New South Wales there a 3 manslaughter charges they are Voluntary manslaughter Involuntary manslaughter And Negligence manslaughter All carrying a maximum penalty of 25 years imprisonment
The failure of responsible care not delivered to this family should be a crime in its own right. I strongly doubt that Doctor who just left on that evening will ever forgive herself, which would be a perfectly understandable outcome in the circumstances. I assume, with a degree of confidence, that well-meaning but ultimately ineffectual and extremely poorly managed mental health care, contributed significantly to the spiraling decline the killer found themselves in. These "Professionals" failed their patient, her family, and society as a whole, with their inability to diagnose the dangerous mental health issues at play which resulted in the most tragic ending imaginable. Too much blame to go around as these professionals involved will no doubt play at passing the buck and covering their own arses for their parts in this tragedy of errors.
You obviously didn't pay much attention to the case - the doctor who was called by Rita wasn't a psychiatrist but came to treat Jessica for alleged "belly ache", which was ridiculous since she was on the phone, ordering more junk food. What was she supposed to do? Jessica's sister said that they, as a family, tried everything but when it came to inpatient treatment, Jessica flat out refused and her mother always went with what Jessica wanted. The countless times she attacked and harassed other people never had any consequences for her, most likely because the other parties were asked to not press charges. There was no "failure of responsible care" from anyone in the healthcare department or other community services - Jessica visited countless doctors and her family was well aware of her mental health issues but Jessica refused to take her medication, and her mother was too submissive to take charge. Kristy, the older sister, as well as other family urged Rita to have Jessica hospitalized but she refused to even consider it. You can't help the ones who don't want your help,their parents including.
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I can only imagine what the offender’s family went through in the all the years with Jessica. They were probably fearful of her, but helpless.
I grew up with a mentally Ill brother . It’s heartbreaking. Because you love them. You want them to be ok. Wish they’d be cured. Wish they take their meds.
I grew up next door to Rita (RIP) from 1989-2000. Since their house is no longer occupied, anyone curious, it is adjacent to the right of 53 Colorado Dr, St Clair. As a child I only assumed her to be the lifeblood of her family as a sweet, giving, selfless woman that put loved ones at a high priority. This is surreal. I hope her memory is cherished by those around her for all the beneficent deeds she undoubtedly joyously took part in.
Sounds like she tried to be a genuinely good mother. RIP. This is so tragic.
You should delete the address it doesn't matter that no one lives there at the moment!!!
@@wioi ?
A life sentence without parole should have been the sentence. 25 years is a joke. Absolutely brutal murder.
But a jury thought otherwise
@@katehobbs2008 The manslaughter charge is being exploited here. Manslaughter should be reserved for where negligence leads to the death of someone that was not intended. This is quite clearly not the case here.
@@katehobbs2008 no; the jury does NOT recommend or determine a sentence; that is solely the sentencing judge's role
Agreed
The judges sentence by the guidelines set by other people in parliament, they're the ones who need to have these people as neighbours when they get released. Same here in the uk imo, I'm very liberal in general but I have my limits. A full life sentence meaning life is fairer and safer, she had enough chances. It's Rita, Rita's daughter and grandson who I feel bad for, the killer should never feel freedom again.
Wow that 4 year old boy is totally a littie hero 🦸♂️ I pray he will recover from this trauma & have a wonderful future & a life filled with joy faith & love 💓
21 years is just an insult.
The poor mother she did everything she could for her daughter this is disturbing
We used to have mental institutions for these people, so they are not a danger to the community. Releasing mentally ill people and offenders into the community might save the government money, but it's a recipe for disaster.
In reality releasing them in the community is not any cheaper than keeping them in institutions in cases where they are sent to prison. In fact it costs the taxpayers far more money to keep them in jail than in a institution. So it’s not always cheaper to release them in the community from an institution
@@williamwalker8106 Which makes it even more inexcusable that mentally unwell people who have a propensity for violence are allowed to wander around the community, when this has led to a loss of life in this case and other cases like the guy in Stanmore waiting for a bus a few years back.
Having mental illness doesn't mean you should be caged away! Any individual who has a mental illness have the right to live in the community. The more severe cases can have a supported plan with the 24 hour monitored supported independent living and appropriate medications (care teams, case workers, all coordinated with psychiatric team, GP ect).
All people no matter if healthy or not should be treated as humans, not caged animals.
Now for this case, this individual did a horrific crime and she should be jailed. There is consequences to the actions she took that day and she is where she belongs. By the sounds of this case her mother tried to take on the full burden in supporting her daughter. The mother and or other family should have seeked serious psychiatric help and community services Coordinated help, she didn't. There were signs leading up to this with her agressive dangerous behaviour. If there were some serious intervention, would we be discussing this now? Who knows! This is a very sad case and many will learn from this.
This case is rare. Mental health issues don’t automatically spell disaster. I couldn’t imagine my son in a horrible place like so many institutions that went under because of over crowding and low staff. Those children and adults lived in squalor. The big school in Long Island NY. Omg when they showed them without clothing living in their own feces and urine having 1 spoon to shovel food into 100 patients mouth. 1 spoon. That’s awful. Today we have much higher number than in our past. There simply aren’t enough places or people that are truly equipped to handle special needs. My son wouldn’t be the good kid he’s without me. I am his support his everyday person. He’s higher functioning now compared to when we started. He was non-verbal until age 3-4 he still gets jumbled but can talk. I did pay 39,000$ for 7 years for his private school until he transitioned into public school. He is a good person wouldn’t hurt a fly. He doesn’t have anger problems he can get upset or angry just like anyone but his chooses define him. He will sit down and breath, meditate to calm himself down that’s what he was taught by me. It works he’s a teen now that comes with other challenges however so far it’s been ok. Again proper care helps. I think this mom was overwhelmed everyday with her daughters behaviors. My sons behaviors are really normal so I can’t imagine the terror this mom had to go thru. Tragic. I also don’t know about the kind of care that they provided her in Australia. Especially the area that she was in. Who knows what she could afford and what she couldn’t afford. Institutions cost a lot now because in order to provide proper care. It’s not minimal it’s 1,000 of dollars a month. Times have changed and I know ASD has skyrocketed along with other disorders those afflicted with multiple issues that’s hard for anyone especially a single older mother. I am surprised her other child didn’t give her more support it seems she was also watching her grandson while this was happening that’s too much to ask if a mother. Again I hear her stuff I don’t recognize any similarities between my son and this person. ASD not normally violent. If that person has defiant opposition behaviors that is another separate diagnosis on top of ASD. ADHD anther anxiety another list goes on. Most ASD only have ASD or anxiety with it. Sometimes ASD Anxiety ADHD. That’s a hard one. The more diagnosis’s you have the harder it is. You need experts to help. A therapist that sticks with that child from a early age to later so they are comfortable with that person. My sons had the same doctors his whole life including dental. They thrive in similarity not chaos. Anyways this was horrible. That child will be traumatized forever seeing that. I was traumatized listening to it. The movies should have never been introduced. Violent! Not good a regular kid would be scared or terrified by them but she was fascinated in the wrong way with them.
@@jennifermarshall4780 Thanks for sharing. It sounds like he grew up in a caring environment and household and also is not inherently violent. I guess it's a case by case basis and for some people, living at home with family is the right option. But it shouldn't be the only option, or simply the default option just to save money. What you detail (and what for instance was dramatised in Ken Kesey's book and then the film) is what led to the demise of the mental institution, but in 2021 it needn't be that way. A well resourced institution can be cost effective (eg using technology and automation where necessary or practicable) and developmentally effective. it all depends on the structure, intent, understanding and will of those running the institution.
The real problem here is the significant lack of a competent mental health system. All the early warning signs were there but no one did anything. Not the first and unfortunately it won’t be the last. A coronial inquest should be held so that formal recommendations can be made regarding the gross lack of care in the mental health system.
The mental health system in this country is great. It actually sounds like the mother and other family members didn't get her the adequate help she needed.
Agree completely, however you cannot force someone mentally unwell to comply.
Psychopaths are best treated by the criminal justice system, not the mental health system. Obviously, having and acting upon criminal desires could be considered a mental health issue, but we have a better word for it: "criminal".
Her mother really tried to do the right thing, I just wish that her mental health issues weren't used to get her out of doing time in prison. I think a few weeks in prison or a juvenile detention facility when she was younger for each of her assaults might have been helpful.
I have been in a mental hospital a few times, and sorry for being perhaps selfish in not wanting to share such facilities with extremely dangerous people, but these places need to be safe environments as they are filled with extremely vulnerable suicidal, anxious and paranoid people who usually just need a couple of weeks somewhere safe. Please don't put psychopaths in with us. They are often the reason we needed to go to hospital in the first place.
Governments are required to provide such system(s). However therein lay limitations of funding.
There are surely areas which will cry, endlessly for more.
This is such an area.
Bless that little boy who faught this demononic enraged 'ill 'person.....How traumatic 4 him..I hope he gets all the help he needs...xx
That girl needed real meds! A real psychologist, psychiatrists and anger management. A naturopathic doctor isn’t going to fix that! Years of red flags! My son has autism and it doesn’t even seem like they have anything in common as far as ASD diagnosis. I kept getting upset every time she mentioned Autism. This has nothing to do with autism, people on the autism spectrum are not normally violent! I know there are some cases that are a little more severe than others and they can have meltdowns but never violence. Certainly not like this! Realistically you shouldn’t give your children that are super impressionable and visual and have a mental disorder films that show such graphic and gruesome images. It’s never a good idea. Especially if they become obsessed with those films. That’s when you throw them out the door!!! If they have a problem with that they will have to get over it! I know the “daughter” tried really hard to remove these films. It’s unfortunate that mother kept placating her giving the films back to her. I really feel bad for the mother, because she did not have proper help. The people that were helping her are not obviously in tune with what was going on. Hypnotherapy? I don’t even get that. How many diagnosis? Seems no one got the full picture until a tragedy happened! Not ok! We as parents need more help that’s reasonable financially. People who have children on the spectrum or any other mental health disorder. We as parents need all the help we can get and proper help! No being switched around to this person or that person. We shouldn’t have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars!!!! Good care can be so expensive one of my son schools from the age of three to nine was 39,000 a year. Strictly helping those with autism and ADHD and other disorders that are similar.
How the hell is decapitating someone only manslaughter?! What a load of crap.
With her refusing treatment one can only imagine the type of prisoner she is.
She'll be forced to take her meds.
I cannot believe they are talking about discounts like her sentence is on special.
Its just legal terminology dude.
Props to Justice Helen Wilson for going through all this in such a professional tone. This is very disturbing and she did a great job to remain non judgemental, professional and compassionate despite the horror she witnessed.
that is her job as a Judge. to be impartial, to be a critical thinker, she must know all and be across all the rules, laws and legislations. She must complete law degrees and be a lawyer for at least 8 years before becoming a Judge. A Judge has to understand, analyse facts, think logically, rule on admissability, instruct juries on applicable laws, just to name a few. In other words, Judges are not your average Joe Blow and she must do all this with a perfect POKER FACE
She didn't 'witness' anything. 🙄
Yeah. Agreed, she’s a pro . Nice wig yo.
@@melindafrazer1427 she’s a pro, there are a number of judges that get crazy emotional on the bench. They need to give it up.
You are commending the judge for remaining non judgemental.
Hmmmmm.
Dealing with a mentally unwell family member over a long period must be one of most exhausting and stressful situations one can experience. May Mrs Camilieri rest in peace.
With a bit of luck she will piss off the wrong person in gaol
Seems she already has. Was reading an article saying that she is constantly harassed and moved around the prison due to inmates bullying and threatening her. Everyone in jail knows who she is and hates her.
@@electronicfarts5105 Good
She will. People who hurt parents, elders and children often get hurt and harrassed by other inmates. They deserve it.
I would get rid of her put in prison for life she's dangerous to be around anyone
i'm really trying hard to take the judge seriously. the alien bowl headpiece-wtf
That thing on her head is a distraction.
Wth is that??
@@minarosered6699 it’s a wig, a lot of commonwealth countries have strict rules about judge’s garments
@@minarosered6699 how old are you to not know that?
@@golovastik.mp3 okay but what is the point of this, why is it a rule to wear a ridiculous wig?
Not many ppl would want to have to “deal” with this thing. Pity there wasn’t the death penalty for cases such as these. This thing can never be let loose in our society again. Sickening.
She’s mentally Ill broseph
Thing? Yeah. You do not know or understand the struggles people with mental health issues have to deal with. It is very challenging.
But an innocent Australian man is given life imprisonment and left there to rot by our cunning as a rat prime minister. Free Julian Assange.
He's not freakin innocent for god sake!!! He hacked the bloody US government and published what he found. Regardless of whether you say he did the right thing or not he still committed the crime!
He might like to think he’s innocent but he broke plenty of laws
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 so, Dulce which do you think was the more serious crime? The murder of Innocent civilians that the American government tried to cover up, or the act of informing the public of the American government's terrible involvement?
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 they call that a whistle blower not a crime. Do more research you may see facts that will change you mind.
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 The U.S.A Government is who committed the crimes literally. Assange only expose the truth for the criminal misconduct of the US government. In my eyes he is a national hero for exposing the truth and he did it with his life. What he found is absolutely shocking and should be exposed. The US government should be transparent with the people. Instead they hide their dark dirty little secrets from the American people. For heaven sake‘s they’re hiding the fact that there is alien life. We the people should know what the hell is going on in the world today.
At least she got the higher end of the manslaughter charge
Life, no parole for this monster
Bruh she ain’t a monster she’s mentally ill
With TORTURE!
@@itachiuchiwa6875 Maybe learn about her more she’s mentally ill the only one who needs torture is a year with my torture I mean education
@@joshuaowensjr8694 NOPE, I mean actual GORE TORTURE FOR HER💀🩸wasn’t that her hobbie, you get what you give, there’s no “oh I’m mentally ill so I have a free pass”
21 years is a Joke...not long enough for such a crime
She was convicted of manslaughter not murder, did you actually listen.
21 years out in half that
@Abadazad YT Gaming Did you read the original post before he edited it.
@Abadazad YT Gaming That 21 years was too short for Murder.
@@shanesimpson3455 she cut her mum's head off dude .. sorry but less than life (25 years ) is a joke
NARCISSISTS ARE DANGEROUS. How about we start focusing on properly identifying and dealing with these cancers of our communities... Seriously, how many more people have to suffer and die?!
This is one of the most horrifying things I’ve heard
IF THIS CRIME IS NOT CLASSED AS 'LIFE IMPRISONMENT WITH NO PAROLE IN THE BOOKS' YOU LEAVE A LOOPHOLE IN THE LAW , NEXT TIME THIS HAPPENS THEY WILL POINT AT IT AND MAKE A SOLID ARGUMENT ...... SOFT!
That's not how it works. Close
No loophole, but can open argument for a similar sentence. All depends how good the prosecution is. Most push for deals and sentences reduced for my liking.
@@emcats84 That's not correct...see my above statement
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 Read what I said again. I never said it sets a precedent by the law. More that it opens up the opportunity to argue and make deals for lower sentences. I am not talking about the law itself. I don't think it will affect sentence with the majority of horrible murder cases down the track.
She should have been put into a psychiatric unit for the rest of her Life.
21 years for apparently diminished responsibility due to her mental health, reduced to manslaughter is not justice, it is disgraceful....
She butchered her mother, and she knew exactly what she was doing!!
And if released, will definitively do this again.
Can’t imagine how awful and traumatic it must be for this judge to have to sit through these details. Such a horrific event.
It's certainly not the first case for this judge.
@@wioi doesn’t make it easier
“She broke my finger.”
This judge knew that mental health is bs, good on her. Put her in the High Court.
The government closed down the Psychiatric/mental institutions many years ago. This left decision of the management/treatment of afflicted people, to their families and local GP's... and the assumptive diagnosis' of trained mental health experts..
In the case discussed here, no one got it right and a life has been taken.
As for the perpetrator, I have some empathy, but to those who should and could have stopped it, I have none. You ignored it and it cost a life.
That poor kid 🤦
He'll have to deal with the trauma and CPTSD of that event for life 💔😥 my heart just breaks for him.
@@thepochade5992 I replied but YT is deleting comments again .. I hear you ✌️
If I was the judge I would have sentenced her to
Life imprisonment with a non parole period of 37 years
The judge is right indeed this is one of the worst in fact the worst manslaughter case on NSW besides the unlawful killing of Samantha knight rip poor little girl 😭♥️
You can’t blame her actions on a disability when she clearly set out to look peoples company up through a mobile number come on if she’s disabled how did she do that her actions need to be held accountable for life she’s a danger to society.
Exactly the jury considered her bursts of anger towards random ppl for seemingly no reason as a sign of “human imagination” and so she lacks capacity or has delusions but thats not how delusions are and she admitted before that she lied about hearing voices just so she could be removed from a psych ward, she has full capacity and awareness of her actions she is just evil and narcissistic and no one has put her in her place yet
Iredeemable.
Reading out/giving the sentence is no easy task. There's punishment for the offender but there's also giving respect to those affected by the crime. Terrible events but the Judge gave a thorough assessment.
there are bigger girls inside that she has to fear now and it's her new home for a while good riddence
I think it is likely to be the reverse inside. The big girls in jail will probably need to have a healthy degree of "respect" for her, given what she has proved she is capable of. When a daughter doesn't even fear her mother and is ready to take her on and win, she needs fear no other female anywhere.... I think I'd avoid ever doing crime that could risk landing me in the same female prison as her. She is deadly!
Spare a thought to people in group homes that end up living with all the Jessica’s male and female who are assaulted and abused by them on a daily basis. If Jessica ever gets out of jail that is where she will be placed.
If that's manslaughter, what is murder? That sentence is too light, she's not going to be rehabilitated and she took a life
I Blame the Society, Health care and Judicial / Corrections System as well as Media.. And its Only going to get MUCH WORSE..
Totally agree and it is world wide.
@@justheretocommentokdontwan685 Sadly, there are NO quick fixes available to the doctors and/or community (which she has largely alienated herself deliberately from as one of the tragic features of her illness), but at least those who study medicine - including very complicated and extremely challenging complex pathophysiology involved, with multiple cross complicating conditions such as in this instance, are TRYING TO HELP, by dedicating their life's work to attempting to reduce the inherent misery of these conditions and the toll they take on the sufferer and their loved one's, in the hope that someday, a cure might be found. At least they try.
As opposed to those who merely universally blame doctors etc., for 1. Not having a magic wand to fix her, and 2. Blaming them for using the only methods they currently have at their disposal to reduce the suffering of such patients, yet while you sit and pass judgment you don't offer any viable alternative suggestions for helping to relieve cases like the one discussed above!?!....
So....... What's your suggested treatment for relieving the symptoms of such tragic cases? If you have a magic answer and know better than everybody else, then come on..... Spit it out.... There are millions of sufferers around the world just about dying to hear it and start treatment like, Yesterday Already!, so they can start living happier, more carefree lives.... And a lot of frustrated physicians too, who will be delighted that they can finally make their patients all better..
We'll be right here waiting for your gem of wisdom/marvel of modern medicine...
Because - I guarantee you - if you have that magic quick fix and all the answers, I'll nominate you for the Nobel laureate myself!!....
I’ve Avoided Drs for Years.. I’m in the US. I have a Bf who disappears and then Comes Back... A Parent I despise, A Sister’s Husband I can’t stand... A Workplace I hate... A lot of times There’s no Help out There
I've always dreamed of having my own fur-covered bicycle helmet. Now I know that this is a dream that I can pursue!!!
I'm English and thought our wigs were silly in courts but it seems Australia has out done us!
@@carolinerowles5951 I'm English too, and I like our barristers' wigs. This one, however, is more curly than long, which the UK ones tend to be.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 I’m from the states. Why do they wear wigs and why hasn’t that been outdated? Just curious.
@@mimimitch327 We like tradition. Come to London for a visit. Nobody does tradition like us!
@@mimimitch327 Because Australia is a colonial relic of the former British Empire and whenever Australians think of refinement, civilised culture, society, traditions,institutions etc, they think "English" and start to try and look and act all English and imitate them. Never mind that we only started out as a dumping place or remote far flung prison for English crime they had no room for back in England.... So that's why we still have all these old English ways, traditions, social behaviours when Australians want to put on airs and graces and appear refined, as they sometimes do, and actually are, though it is hard for the outside world to believe this. I live near a remote bush town here that was once visited by the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh to check out an Airforce base. They actually rode on a "royal train" (which old bush locals say was "just the normal peoples' train to Melbourne jazzed up a bit, cleaned up...). That happened way back in the early fifties but they still talk about how the Queen actually came out to the bush to see them, even now, I recently heard an interesting train conversation about this event between two oldies: She didn't come to see YOU! Who'd want to bother visiting YOU! It was my family. We were free settlers here and pioneers, not convicts. Go back to Sydney, where all the convicts are from!". I thought this was odd, given how many bushrangers and outlaws ranged over Victoria, my state...And, oddly enough, all those Sydney types who boast about their convict origins from the colonial days are also the types who are into all things royal and English and put on so many airs and graces, but in a vulgar, loud, crass Sydney style, unlike the more sedate, refined Melbourne style.
I pray the brave boy lives a happy life and gets through the trauma. There’s no help out there for her, she should be destroyed like an animal would be.
Omg tht has to be the worse killing i hve ever herd unreal
What do you mean " not murder "!!!! Disgusting!!
She was found not guilty for murder for being too nuts. Not manslaughter though, jail for that one.
Diminished responsibilities !
Well, clearly she is not of sound mind.
@@marykelly7726 The frigging Judge just said that!
@@shanesimpson3455 meow tsss
Sadly mental health was left unchecked.
Actually she was treated by a renowned psychiatrist for years before this happened. She got lots of support and mental heath care prior to this incidence.
@@whysodamloud serious question. What is wrong with her, mentally? What had she been treated for?
@@whysodamloud Oh sorry. TH-cam just played the next video. I've only just realised this was a year ago. I don't remember hearing about this case. I certainly never heard all these horrific details.
@@whysodamloud also just got to the part about her conditions. Sorry for bothering you.
One has to recognise the difficulty the judge had in applying the legal requirements in the face of such a crime and given the known behaviour of the offender. One can only hope that by 2041 there is a method of ensuring the safety of the community. Given the number of offences she has already committed while in custody, it is unlikely she will be able to achieve the level of conduct required to warrant parole. The dilemma of rights of the individual who has diminished capacity will always be in conflict with the rights of community to be safe. While the wholesale incarceration of people with mental illness or disability is not necessary, there is still a need to confine those who pose a risk to others but that seems to be a moot point.
Well she gets her first crack at parole in 2032
That's one sick unit.
The Authorities Really Failed the Victim In This Case! She Did Not Need To Die! What a Waste & Tragedy!
What a cruel person
How are more ppl chatting about the weird wig then what's being talked about 😐🤯
Easier to cope by joking about something irrelevant than to take on board the horrific nature of the details of this case.
Did she get her wig from the dollar store?
Right! I can't listening to this when looking... terrible!
life in prison would have been better than 25 years our justice system is a joke by terrible judges
If it were a male, he would have been put away permanently. Women should be convicted just as harshly as male offenders.
21 years? Well that is a long time. But we're talking about a clearly unstable individual who is a danger to everyone around them. She isn't going to stop just because she's been locked up.
What a joke , should never be released
Wow this is extremely disturbing behavior
a short climb up the scaffold would ensure everyone is safer and it ouls save the state millions of dollars
Not really, because legal appeals process costs millions. Far better to have automation in prisons and keep prisoners that are violent locked up for longer at low cost.
@@yggdrasil9039 put the convict into a drug-induced coma thereby putting a health limited cap on the technicalities and games their lawyers can use to drag it out, run up costs because the process in the USA errs on the side of caution and the convict can rot in gaol for 20 years, and then they get religion so the creature put to death is not the same as the person who commited the crime
21 years in jail is a joke bro, shouldve been a life sentence with no parole,
How hot that "wig must be,
Trying to get the fast food delivery person to tell her “I love you”? What a weirdo
yea aye
I’m digging the upside down loofah sponge bowl, hat/helmet.🪖👓👍🏼
lol
Lmao
Its sad to see all the clueless people in the comments.
Did you guys actually watch the video?
It would've been a nightmare to live with this woman,
that said, it's apparent that some don't appear to comprehend the judge is confined in her judgements by the jury verdict & current sentences & legislation.
I haven't seen one comment about how the government has systematically destroyed mental health facilities by closures & lack of funding, leaving defenceless families to take up the slack by taking the place of qualified professionals, no wonder when those families fracture & can't cope with a mentally ill loved one discontinuing medication & subsequent paranoia/breakdowns/violent outbursts, many many folks with mental health issues end up on the street.
We need better solutions to these inherent societal problems.
@@amp279 I commented on this. But there other point is good too. The sentences for violent crime are 'manifestly inadequate', given that life expectancy is now 81.
No, they're all too busy commenting on the judge's wig - much more serious, don't you think .................
@@treasurehunteruk9718 I quite like the wigs :)
@@DadSkool Me too. We have better ones in England. This one is a bit curly. In the UK we have long ones with large curls. This one does look a bit silly. Too much like a swim cap and no length. She needs a better wig.
Life in prison without any supervision on what other inmates do to her
My ex boyfriend has a son who exhibited many similar ehaviors od this horrible monster. I'm not at all insinuating he would have done something so horrific, but.....BUT.
He began taking heavy drugs (which had a reputation for violent outbursts and delusion) and hanging out with older people with essentially nothing to lose who were into a plethora of illegal activities, ie robbing and beating people. They also regularly ragged about their guns and knives in social media.
Well, my ex couldn't seem to understand why I didn't want to move into his house with his angry, doped up, violent son. He then began using the fact that I wasn't willing to subject myself to that kind of environment, gaslighting and insinuating his place wasn't "good enough" for me. What man would be ok subjecting his woman to potential harm?? He was a joke.
You don't know what people are capable of, man. So glad I don't have to deal with ANY of that toxic bullshiit any longer.
No more horror films for me !!!
She removed the eyeballs & squished one in her hand !!!
I expected 50yrs
There was a time when people like her were committed to a high security unit
One of the worst Australian cases
She will never get out.
This is pure madness. I have no word's.
Why are none of these medical professionals held accountable too I mean seriously a naturopath is going to do nothing in this situation it’s like taking her to an art class how ridiculous- my partner had a psychosis they gave him Valium said take him home no psychiatrist is here this weekend - that night he swam out to sea 2 kilometres in the middle of the night and nearly died hadn’t it been for fisherman finding him - these hospitals are atrocious including the therapists
When she handed down the sentence she said murder first then corrected herself, because clearly that's what it was but our justice system is weak as piss
Shes even more dangerous because she has multiple behavioral disorders and in 25 years time might dexide to get off the medication again and SNAP into another one of her rages. Watch out people.
She should never be released!
The Death Penalty. Nothing more needs to be said
Tragedy beyond words
Fortunately the small child survived
Mental illness and people walking around amongst us who need to be contained
So so sad 😞
Only for 21years?
Well really only 16 years.. it's disgraceful, but welcome to Australian's justice system..
But saying that she won't ever get out..
Years ago patients who suffered from uncontrollable rages were given a lobotomy. I used to abhor this procedure, but listening to the details of this case, I wonder if this might not be suitable for the offender given she has no hope of rehabilitation, effective treatment, or a sane future. Transorbital lobotomy is rarely performed; however, shock therapy and psychosurgery (the surgical removal of specific regions of the brain) occasionally are to treat patients whose symptoms have resisted all other treatments.Feb 12, 2021
The movie "Francis" was based on those treatments.. It's the true story of actress Francis Farmer.
If you told me this was a Shaun The Sheep convention, I'd believe you more than the one who says this is a court in Australia.
You're a mor.on obviously
Le bajaron la sentencia solo porq fue capaz de "pedir ayuda"? O desear que la cabeza de su madre fuera colocada nuevamente en su cuerpo? Con eso vieron que ella no quería matar a su mamá y que se sentía culpable por lo que hizo?. Es una broma la sentencia
Así cualq delincuente serial realizará una llamaba o pedir ayuda para minimizar su homicidio
wow..just WOW...a muslim is found with CD and grows a beard and gets 23 years in Supermax.a non muslim gets 21 for beheading her mother..VERY UNFAIR
RIP POOR RITA AND I HOPE THE LITTLE ANGEL RECOVERS AND I HOPE THAT GOD LOOKS AFTER HIM IN HIS LIFE AHEAD. I KNOW THAT JESSICA COULD NOT USE A TOILET AND WOULD WEE AND POO ON WEE WEE MATS THAT ARE USED FOR DOGS. RITA ONLY CARED A LOVED HER DAUGHTER OR DAUGHTERS AND GRAND CHILD I DO HOPE THIS HELPS JESSICA GET HER JUSTICE AND SHE CAN GET THE RIGHT MENTAL HEALTH NEEDED THERE IS ALOT OF HELP OUT THERE JUST NEED TO KEEP PUSHING I KNOW RITA REACHED OUT FOR ANY HELP FOR JESSICA AND WOULD GO WAY OUT TO GET THE HELP AND IT UNFORTUNATELY ENDED IN THE LOSS OF THE MOST LOVING ANGEL RITA SHE WAS ONE OF A KIND MOTHER AND VERY LOVING AND HELP ANYONE IM SORRY FOR KRISTY AND HER FAMILY AND THE BABY BOY WHO NOW HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS HURT AND PAIN MAY THE SUN SHINE AND BLESS YOU ALL LOVE AND BLESSINGS ALWAYS
I don't believe that anyone would bother to read your comment, as you obviously haven't learned how to write properly without caps. 🤦♀️
21 years in the Loony Bin.
Never to be released !!!!!
Then how is it manslaughter your Honour?
Wow so the poor child was left with this nut in the car? Dam that kid not only witnessed the murder which is brutal enough but also much of the lead up to it......Bloody hell...She skipped crazy cat lady and went straight to postal.
Is that really suppose to look like hair on the judge? Horrible brutal case. She needed a MUCH longer sentence
There is High risk of Her Re Offending!!!
As no hope of her restraining her own actions exist --in parallel with the evidence of the mental health system's own inability to deal with her condition(s)--, yet another daunting certainty will emerge.
She is expected to offend upon release, regardless of her age, as she has proven that her rage is beyond restraint.
Another great reason for reinstating institutions.
She will get out on good behavior.
@Rick Farrugia why don't u STFU .Everyone has a right to comment.
@Rick Farrugia this isn't her first rodeo?
What good behavior?
She's been assaulting fellow prisoners & police have been called to the jail, those will all have detailed accounts as well as prison officers/doctors/official write ups,
if she continues with that, she'll end up doing the whole sentence because there's no reasonable justification for the governor to allocate her time off as there's documentation stating the opposite, that in fact her behavior hasn't been exemplary or incident free,
so at this point you're comment is plain conjecture.
She can't...when a non parole period is set you must serve that period!
She can't behave herself so that's never going to happen
Jessica is a serial hair puller 😆 🤣
Why do judges wear those things on there heads, it's just looks odd, are we in the 21st century... 🤔🙄🧐
🤣 ikr
It was to allow all judges to be “the same”, to avoid “celebrity”. Or another words the judges “wig/robs” was to represent the court and the rule of law, that the Judge/Justice was its representative and their identity irrelevant to the proceedings.
@@Orion227 thanks for that info
It is 'their' heads, basic 21st century grammar ..............
@@Orion227 I am glad to see at least one educated person in this comment section, as others seem to care more about looks than education.
If that were my kid I'd have signed away my rights and left her in a home. She was nothing but a drain t anybody that cared for her. Lock her away FOREVER. She is a broken, defective monster.
A drain, that is Sooo true!!!
What a messed up law system. How do u cut of a person's head and not get life in prison. What a joke . Obviously the judge isn't mentally fit for the job. Plsase do a retrial with a judge who understands violent sick human behaviour.
If you're going to blame anyone, blame the jury for finding her not guilty of murder.
It was a jury not the judge who found her guilty of manslaughter
The judge gave her as much as the law deemed possible. If the jury had given her murder then she could have, gotten life.
Blame the jury, it was their decision not the judges
😂🤣😂 What the hell does that judge have on her head???? It is 2121!! Look as if she was born with the "Helmut "
Should do away with all that garb, this isnt the 1400s.
Totally agree
neccesary as its a cult
No we shouldn't...are you a Barrister or Judge? We don't tell the rest of Australia what uniform to wear.
@@LawyER_Nurse1989 intimidates and alienates the people who use the courts.
Bloody Hell! Horrific!
Weak weak sentencing!
The judges wig I just can’t
Why are all these comments about the judge wig?? Are you actually listening to what she is saying? Lmfao
Ahh, the expertologists and chattering classes know much better than judge and jury. What a pity they did not just ask you people. The offender is clearly as mad as a hatter and not competent, will end up in a psychiatric institution.
That's what you call a judge in australia? 😂
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@@sophiemichelle3688 The outfit and the wig. 😂
Would you recognise her in the street? Let them keep their wigs and relative anonymity.
@@LibertyLover5 They trying to copy the colonial days of our country.
@@MrMJmusicLover it’s British tradition you uncultured swine
In New South Wales there a 3 manslaughter charges they are
Voluntary manslaughter
Involuntary manslaughter
And
Negligence manslaughter
All carrying a maximum penalty of
25 years imprisonment
The failure of responsible care not delivered to this family should be a crime in its own right. I strongly doubt that Doctor who just left on that evening will ever forgive herself, which would be a perfectly understandable outcome in the circumstances. I assume, with a degree of confidence, that well-meaning but ultimately ineffectual and extremely poorly managed mental health care, contributed significantly to the spiraling decline the killer found themselves in. These "Professionals" failed their patient, her family, and society as a whole, with their inability to diagnose the dangerous mental health issues at play which resulted in the most tragic ending imaginable. Too much blame to go around as these professionals involved will no doubt play at passing the buck and covering their own arses for their parts in this tragedy of errors.
You obviously didn't pay much attention to the case - the doctor who was called by Rita wasn't a psychiatrist but came to treat Jessica for alleged "belly ache", which was ridiculous since she was on the phone, ordering more junk food. What was she supposed to do?
Jessica's sister said that they, as a family, tried everything but when it came to inpatient treatment, Jessica flat out refused and her mother always went with what Jessica wanted. The countless times she attacked and harassed other people never had any consequences for her, most likely because the other parties were asked to not press charges.
There was no "failure of responsible care" from anyone in the healthcare department or other community services - Jessica visited countless doctors and her family was well aware of her mental health issues but Jessica refused to take her medication, and her mother was too submissive to take charge.
Kristy, the older sister, as well as other family urged Rita to have Jessica hospitalized but she refused to even consider it.
You can't help the ones who don't want your help,their parents including.