I think if they had just added that "wait, what?" They could have turned the moral into "Pay attention before you make an agreement and make sure you know exactly what you're agreeing to." Which I think is a good and uncommon moral.
Really? Stellar Eclipse caused controversy? people think that representing a disabled person = insulting disabled people no matter the circumstances? *sighs*
Gray Mousemouse Heard of that, saw no proof of it, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if it's genuine, as some bronies, particularly the 4chan ones, are quite nasty, and would make porn out of him out of spite. But once again, it's not something you can blame an entire fandom about. Kinda like how you can't blame the entire star wars fandom if somebody committed a murder dressed as Darth Vader.
I loved this episode because I'm a sucker for plots that deal with the perspectives of different characters all from the same specific event. While Rainbow seemed kind of mean, at least she realized she screwed up, and that's all the matters, right? Overall, it's one of the shows funniest episodes.
Spirel Phea Yeah, you'd think people wouldn't mind. Both Scootaloo and Ditzy Doo are deeply loved by fans despite their disabilities, sometimes even because of them.
Am I the only person who thinks Rarity and Applejack shouldn't go to things like this? Applejacks inability to lie means she will at best get things at what she values them as and no less. I.E. She has trouble talking people down. And Rarity, being generous, will probably give more then what she thinks something is worth. I know they have both on occasion failed to live up to their element but 90% of the time they usually follow it.
This plot reminds me of the Ed, Edd, and Eddy episode where the Eds had to keep trading things to get a chicken from Rolf. Or was it an egg I really don't remember well.
This episode reminded me of the fetch quests you run into in video games, especially the Animal Crossing ones where you go to get an item from the person who borrowed it, only to be told that they lent it to someone else... and the chain continues. Once I was sent to EVERY character in the town before getting the item, and it turned out that the animal directly next to the person looking for the item was the one that had ended up with it.
I honestly don't see how the wheel chair pony could bring up any controversy. Then again, I couldn't see how derpy did either. Some people just need to grow some thick skin, a pair of balls, and stop being offended for other people even though the 'targeted' group wasn't offended themselves. I'd be happy to be represented in a show if I had a disability.
I really hope this show keeps making GOOD episodes. I would hate to see this show be reduced to a stupid girls show, and see the fan base decline. MLP FIM has potential to improve. These writers have to try their hardest. Other shows have gone through decline in entertainment, like family guy, or the fairly odd parents. TV shows that try to last forever turn to shit eventually, if MLP FIM ended in a good way then I would be happy. Someone needs to remind these writers that just because something is intended for children doesn't mean you half-ass it. Children aren't stupid, they might not understand some things but kids are functional human beings, not brainless vegetables. If shit like this continues then all hope is lost.
The pony in the weelchair things is based on a real person his name is Sylvain LeVasseur-Portelance. In real life, Sylvain is a teen who suffers from a muscle disease known as Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 3, and is also involved with a foundation called Rebecca Run that promotes awareness of SMA. Sylvain himself is personally responsible for raising several thousand dollars towards one day finding a cure.
TheMysteriousMrEnter - The wheel-chair pony was the oc of a fan who asked that his character be given a cameo in the show, or something like that. There was never any intention whatsoever of insulting the disabled.
***** Wasn't the controversy either that bronies were complaining an OC got on the show because it was "SJW pandering" or something, then a second one that they started making a ton of porn of that OC even after the creator/the creator's mother (I think) publicly said they didn't want people to do that? (Also just to add to the whole certain infamous background pony thing bc I'm too lazy to make multiple comments I'm not sure what the consensus is on the voice acting/personality of the character and I don't want to go on and pass a total judgement on it since I'm neurotypical, but from what I heard at least part of the problem was the name used in the episode since "derpy" and derivatives originated as a way to mock people with downs syndrome. Consider the hand flapping and voice used back when people started doing that. I personally like some of the other fan names like Bright Eyes or Bubble Wrap as alternatives)
I like stellar eclipse (wheel chair pony) I just wish his color scheme was better I know he's the VA's OC they could done better and honestly why would anyone have a problem with him being in a wheelchair we seen a wheelchair in read it and weep also flight to the finish scootaloo might be disable so why would a pony in wheelchair contraption be an issue when scootaloo could be disable herself and no pony is making a big deal about it in the show I don't get the controversy But I like stellar eclipse
Just a little thought... But the whole infamous scene where Fluttershy is 'sold' sounds more like... They're buying her SERVICES, not.... her. It's the same as selling an accountant or even a doctor, sure as hell not legal nor was it RD's decision, but no one was intending to enslave Flutters forever. Still, the point stands that it was horridly executed. :/ .... I love the wheel-chair set up :)
I loved this episode. Each pony had unique interests, the pacing was great, the jokes were funny and the embarrassing parts did not continue for to long.
I thought the controversy was the 34 of the wheelchair character? He wasn't really portrayed like a moron like derpy so I don't know why people would have an issue.
Throughout the Rainbow Dash/Fluttershy story, I did not see Fluttershy's timidity as the focus. The timidity was used only as an easy extra obstacle that would frustrate Rainbow Dash, along with the low demand for a rusty horseshoe, the broken chalice, the lunch break, and the vendor changing her mind about the diet cerberus. As Rainbow's frustration increases, her balance between Logos (logic and reason) and Pathos (emotional frenzy) tips in favor of Pathos. Rainbow Dash clearly isn't thinking about what she's giving up here, as she has abandoned logic and seeks only after her emotional desire for the book. Also, Rainbow Dash clearly doesn't recognize the dexision she has made qt first when she talks to Fluttershy as if she were right by her side, also able to celebrate with her instead of being led away as an indentured servant. Hopefully this clears things up for the better.
This is my absolute least favorite episode. I hate it. On top of being horribly boring due to everything in the episode being painfully predictable, the one part that isn't predictable is absolutely reprehensible. RD basically traded Fluttershy away to do a job where she's unpaid to work for an unforeseeable amount of time. In other words, human, er, pony trafficking and slavery. And the worst part? Twi's just like, "Nope, you said it's fair so it's fair." No, it's fucking not. Trading a book for a person isn't fair. Even if the two people in the trade agree upon it, that doesn't make it fair because it completely takes Fluttershy's say in the matter out of the equation, which is inherently unfair. And I realize that Fluttershy gave the okay. However, the episode also went to great lengths to show what a pushover Fluttershy is. So how can it be viewed any way other than to see it as her being walked over again? Even if she agreed of her own volition, it still doesn't mean she's not possibly caving to pressure and what RD might think or do if she doesn't agree. I hate this episode. It makes my head hurt in so many ways. Namely facepalming.
2:18 I actually like this scene, it was a quick way at telling us how the trade far works and it gave us a REASON as to why Spike was absent for this episode.
This episode is kind of a guilty pleasure because Rainbow and Fluttershy's story reminds me of the trading quests in the legend of zelda games (plus it involves my favorite pairings in the show). I'll give Scott credit and say that this was a good improvement over his last episode. He can make very funny episodes but the problem with him is that he relies on old character tropes in previous episodes instead of making unique ones. All he has to do is show the audience something we haven't seen before and he could be up there with Dave Polsky. I liked Twilight's side of the episode but when she did that speech after the crowd left was so sudden like if she either already knew the books wont be traded or she was so desperate to write another letter to Celestia so she staged the whole thing.
I disliked this episode the first time I watched it. When Rainbow sold Fluttershy into slavery [I'm using the word slavery because that's exactly what it is], i felt like punching the screen.
movieguy2611 It's not slavery because Fluttershy went with the pony on her own free will. Second, once she finished training that dog, she would be able to leave. If It was slavery, she would have to stay in manehatten for her entire life. So, no it's not slavery.
Also, I thought the controversy surrounding the Make A Wish OC was the fact that people made porn of him, which went against the wishes of both his creator and his creator's parents.
I feel the same way about the episode. I see the problems, but I'm still able to enjoy the good things it brought to the table. Random but I really like that orthros design.
It earns points with me for the pairings though. Trying to play the main six slice of life comedy in this setting works, and I don't feel the episode was trying to teach fluttershy a lesson from the beginning. It was useing her passive nature as gag and gimmick of the character. Despite how much fluttershy may have grown these aspects of the character don't really go away, . Their arc is much more focused on rainbow dash getting her book. And really the lesson is about the sacrifices you make to help out your friends that rainbow dash calls rarity and applejack out on. I did however feel that twilight may have been wanting to trade the books for the quill not because the quill had any value, but because she would like to have the books educate somepony else rather than collect dust.
I think many people already refute the Fluttershy slavery thing, so I'm gonna tackle something else; FS's (apparent) meekness. While it's true she already learned to say NO in previous episodes, in Trade Ya FS actually CHOSE not to say no since multiple times she really wanted RD to get that book, even at the expanse of her own. Personally, I really liked this episode for the humor & character interactions, all these problems MrEnter pointed out are simply nitpicks. Bad exposition? Most episodes, even Pinkie Pride had them. AJ & Rarity seem petty? Who hasn't been petty sometime in their life. Predictable story? Do you really predict FS to want to go. I'll admit RD did seem OOC about that book, but she's just distracted on the prospect of finally completing her set.
I'm pretty sure Othros is a direct reference to Orthrus, a two-headed hellhound and Cerberus' brother(?). So, does that mean they literally traveled down to the depths of hell just to retrieve this two-headed dog?
This is pretty much what I feel for this episode. It does call back alot of episodes I don't like and there are a few problems, but there are things about it that are hard for me to hate.
Wait, some morons found the pony in the wheelchair offensive? Whoever it was, screw them; that guy was even more respectful regarding his disability than Prunella's blind friend Marina from *Arthur* (and that was her whole purpose). Honestly, my dog would be kinder than those whiners...
Thank you for continually using music from Terranigma, one of the GREATEST VIDEO GAMES EVER. Now, if you could find some way of shoehorning in The Final Boss Theme, I would be eternally grateful... :)
It's nice to see yet another reference to a more obscure mythical beast in MLP; Orthrus (the Diet Cerberus) is actually a legitimate creature from Greek mythology.
About the wheelchair pony, I've heard his story, but I don't think there was any controversy that I've heard of. And, I think the kid wanted it to be small as possible, but it was NOWHERE near as bad as Derpy in "The Last Roundup".
there was some controversy and also some bronys being assholes and complaining a random kid gets on the show despite the fact that HE HAS A TERMINAL ILLNESS!
I liked the moral with Twilight was pretty good, although it's not always entirely correct. You shouldn't always hold on to stuff, although it is important to think twice before throwing something away. But the thing is, I don't think it was a 'moral' per se. The episode was mostly showing us why Twilight loves her books. If they had waited until after the finale when she was mourning the loss of her library, it might have seemed a little shoe horned in. But we know they thought it all out. This episode's best part for me was making that moment from Twilights Kingdom so much deeper
y'know, scott sonneborn worked for Celebrity Deathmatch and Angela Anaconda, so I was pretty horrified when I found out that he was going to write an episode on MLP
Uh... news flash. Not everyone watches the trailers (I watched this on Netflix without reading the description, for one.) So not everyone knew about the trading thing in Rainbow Falls. The exposition was kind of needed, so removing a point for that was pretty... not a very smart move.
+Commenter839 Exposition is okay, but when you have it, you need to make sure that the characters that are on the receiving end of it don't already know what's going on. Pinkie was giving exposition to characters who already knew what they were doing and why, so it came off as awkward.
This was a decent episode. Defiantly not the worst and was still entertaining. Right now though, I am too excited for the next episode to care. I have been waiting for this one for awhile.
I know this review is about 2 years old, but... I actually loved the design of the wheelchair pony. When I first saw this episode, I was watching it with my Fiancé, who is a Brony, and the first thing out of my mouth was "wow! I love the design of that pony!" I'm not kidding. I really liked the character design. Am I missing something? What is this... "controversy"? I understood with Derpy (though I didn't like how she was censored when Snails is portrayed stupider than Derpy- and Derpy sounds almost like a female version of Snails in terms of how she talks. So they should censor him too with that logic) I'm not disabled, but I think they should include more designs like his, because some kids would be legitimately able to relate to him. They may not have addressed him, but if you were wheelchair bound, would you like people gawking at you? Or treat you like a normal person? Maybe it's just me? Maybe I'm just oblivious? But I loved that character design, and I hope they make more like him!
wait there was a controversy over the inclusion of a character in a wheelchair? for what, existing? it's not like they ever even MENTIONED the wheelchair in the show. i fail to see how this is a problem.
Here is how I judge episodes....Did I enjoy watching it? That's it. The only episodes I say no to are; Spike at Your Service, Somepony to Watch Over Me, Twilight Time. In fact. Rainbow Falls and Power Ponies are in my top 15 in the series! Favorite episodes. I love how cheesie Power Ponies is. The villain is deffinatly a Silver Age villain. One with plans that make no sense. Plus I love puns! Can't have superheroes without puns!
I was watching (great review btw) but you have to remember something: new viewers. Anyone who has never seen the show (and don't have an internet connection) won't know what has happened before if this is their first episode. The writers are actually doing a good thing with Pinkie and Twilight's exposition because, while to fans it will seem redundant, many new watchers will pick up on it quickly.
Honestly, I liked this episode. It felt like something calm before the storm, especially since the next episode is the Olympic games one. In fact, I love every episode of MLP simply because I get to see my favorite characters again. Are there duds? Yes. Do I care? No, I'll still re-watch them simply because I get to see those characters and how they interact in this world known as Equestria. People should really lighten up considering that the series didn't have to continue after season three. In fact, it didn't need to continue after season two. And yet... we're getting a fifth season. :/ This fandom continually looks the gift pony in the mouth.
what is that song when you were talking about the overview of the episode at the end? It sounded like the song of time from tLoZMM. *I know it came from OoT but I only played MM.
8:44 I'm sorry, what? She spend the entire rest of the episode trying to get the trade called off, I think that makes it abundantly clear that she was just acting out of impulse and not thinking about her actions here. That's perfectly understandable. She should have reigned in her impulses better, but it does not point to her valuing the book over Fluttershy. And although Fluttershy was not happy with her part of the deal, she made it pretty clear that she was fine as long as it made RD happy--if it didn't make RD happy, or if she didn't care about making RD happy, I think it would be reasonable to assume that she wouldn't have gone along with the trade. I'm sorry, but I just have no idea where you're coming from here.
Just gonna say that Pinkie's segment with Twilight was my least favorite. Yeah, Rainbow/Flutters and Rarity/AJ's segments were cliched and rather poor in quality, but when Pinkie started saying too much about Twilight and humiliated that poor filly (yes, it was justified, but hey, imagine if it was just that filly asking for an autograph) and it brought me "A Friend in Deed" flashbacks. You do not want to remind me of that travesty. And hey, we can add another offense to her list of crimes, promoting hoarding! (yes, I know this isn't a crime, but hey, imagine if Twilight starts stealing things, we can point it all back to her...) Woohoo, Pinkie, you're on your way downhill for me again...ugh.
"I am an extremely entitled brony. How dare this episode reference other episodes I don't like. I am the main fucking reason this show is still on the air, and I deserve better treatment than this!"
The main reason the show is still on is because it is still a good show even when they have bad episodes like Spike at your Service, and it is also because of all the brony's and pegasisters that support it. So calm the fuck down and look at the pretty ponies that we and many others enjoy around the world!
Aaron Graft Are you aware I was just making fun of bronies who bitched about this episode mentioning Spike at your Service? Hence the quotes? Stop victimizing me, just like all these writers do with these references to bad episodes.
*sigh* Are you really telling me you don't comprehend the difference between including a mentally-challenged character depicting them utterly screwing up everything and being a physical hazard to themselves and all the people and objects around them implicitly sending a message that any such person is not to be trusted with any tasks and should perhaps be put somewhere permanently out of the way in order to stop them from harming themselves and those around them..... And including someone with a disability that is portrayed as normal and competent at what they do?
After that Breadwinners review I thought you were going to take off longer than that. It's nice to see a new episode review though. Cars 2 next time? Bring it on.
3:37 Ugh, I despise this kind of plot! I've seen it so many times before, and it never gets better for any more of the times that I see it! When I achieve my dream of becoming a children's book writer, I'm going to avoid this plot at all costs! I don't think I'm the only person who can't stand that kind of plot! >:(
Yeah, you're probably not. I can see where you're coming from, but I personally don't mind this plot. Doesn't mean I love it, but it's not that bad imo.
@@ethnictendo Oh my gosh, I was so vitriolic about this kind of plot, huh? I'm still working on that dream, but I don't sweat the small stuff as much nowadays. In fact, I haven't really been seeing this plot crop up in other shows I've taken interest in! You're right though, it really isn't something to get worked up over :)
@@mariahs6 I actually used to have a similar dream, but that dream was kinda crushed, so now I'm working towards something similar: making cartoons. So yeah, I've taken interest to this sort of thing, hence why I'm learning about all sorts of stories.
So, I have an idea for the Fluttershyproblem. Rainbow could have made a deal, that Fluttershy stays and trains the Cerberus, until the one with the DaringDo book has to go back to Manehattan (Or whatever). But Fluttershy wouldn´t have the time to trade her whistle, then. So, Fluttershy has to stand up for herself and Rainbow learns you shouldn´t make deals about someone else without their involvement and Fluttershy learns to stand up for her, if something seems unfair. (Sorry, english isn´t my first language)
read the description of the next episode. my small and withered optimism went, "oh, well that might be an interesting spin on...." and then i saw multiple writers...
If you wouldn't have mentioned the wheelchair pony, there wouldn't be so much discussion about him. You don't have to provoke it. Yeah, the episode was pretty mediocre...
After Twilight showed the book about Spike at your service didn't she say "and this book reminded me of when I got it, when I meet you Pinkie" or a line like that, isn't that a story error? Celestia gave her that book so the one "she got when she met Pinkie" could not be true as Celestia didn't give her book until season 3 and she sent a few others so many in fact it caused Spike to get a day off that resulted in the episode, Twilight "couldn't" have gotten it when she met Pinkie unless I really heard that line wrong?
TheMysteriousMrEnter I like this episode because of Pinkie Pie, the mutant animals, and the Luteces Twins from Bioshock were in the background. And yes this episode is 1000 times better than Somepony Watching Me because Applejack in Trade Ya only acted petty not like a psychotic soccer mom with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and it left me with the impression that Applejack did not take her medication in the Somepony Watching Me episode because she was completely out of character
I feel the exact same way about this episode. I like it when I don't think about it to much but when I really think about it, it becomes full of holes.
Please don't say "diet" Cereberus! The last time someone used a "diet" joke they ended up reviewing a horrible movie! *Coughing* Nostalgia Critis and the Lorax! *Coughing*
Well look at it this way, with the streak of good episodes we had between Somepony Watching Over Me and this episode we were eventually gonna have a dud. I may not share some of the hate that this episode gets, but I can agree that I was pissed off with Rainbow Dash's actions. It's a weak episode yes, but at least to me it shows that Scott Sonneborn is slightly improving with his writing. I hope he gets better if decides to write for Season 5.
Hi Mr Enter. Is it okay if I use your hit point system in my reviews? I'd like to make Steven Universe reviews and thought using the hit point system would help me a lot. Id just like your approval though.
"Would've taken only two words" Text: Rainbow Dash, "Wait, what?" Yeah, no. I'm afraid that wouldn't have helped any. If there's one thing I know about fandumbs, it's that they will fucking ignore sentences YELLED IN THEIR FACES for the sake of calling something out on being a hypocrite or stupid, etc. Take Pokemon for example. Nobody but me seems to know about the line "Pokemon aren't meant to fight. Not like this." from Nurse Joy during the first movie. Now how about something more recent? Ash: Hold on, you're- Newtwo: I am Mewtwo. Everyone but me: Ash dunt rummber mootoo, writarz sux. Seriously, these lines are RIGHT THERE and everybody misses them. Frankly, even your idea was the reality, people would still fucking ignore it in favor of making Rainbow Dash out to be a fucking selfish asshole who doesn't give a damn. Even in the best of fandoms, the majority are dumbasses who only give a fuck about what they interpret things as, and any evidence to the contrary is nonexistant, no matter how much you shove in their face the fact that they are WRONG.
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I think if they had just added that "wait, what?" They could have turned the moral into "Pay attention before you make an agreement and make sure you know exactly what you're agreeing to." Which I think is a good and uncommon moral.
Really? Stellar Eclipse caused controversy? people think that representing a disabled person = insulting disabled people no matter the circumstances? *sighs*
I think there was some shit going down about people drawing porn of him?
Gray Mousemouse Heard of that, saw no proof of it, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if it's genuine, as some bronies, particularly the 4chan ones, are quite nasty, and would make porn out of him out of spite. But once again, it's not something you can blame an entire fandom about. Kinda like how you can't blame the entire star wars fandom if somebody committed a murder dressed as Darth Vader.
Of course not. just throwing in what I've heard from Tumblr. And of course, a lot of them are pretty anti brony on there.
I loved this episode because I'm a sucker for plots that deal with the perspectives of different characters all from the same specific event. While Rainbow seemed kind of mean, at least she realized she screwed up, and that's all the matters, right? Overall, it's one of the shows funniest episodes.
ben the loney i had no idea you where a brony. like your videos
invisibleloki26 Really? I've made several videos on this show. It's one of my favorites.
***** have u seen Grojband ?
I had no idea you watched MrEnter's reviews! You guys are among from favorite critics and reviewers! ^_^
@Trina Riffin He has seen the show. He said that the show was "meh".
Wait what? Wheelchair merchant was called up for contrerversy? I thought it was lovely to see more diverse types of pony in different states.
I see a lot of wheelchaired pony fanart, im glad this episode shows the writers notice them.
Spirel Phea Yeah, you'd think people wouldn't mind. Both Scootaloo and Ditzy Doo are deeply loved by fans despite their disabilities, sometimes even because of them.
+Takisan111 Scootaloo has a disability?
Tobias Blackwood I suppose she might just be a late bloomer but it's been confirmed in universe that she should be flying already at her age.
Takisan111 exactly. It shows how well loved they are despite their disabilities
Honestly, I didn't notice the wheelchair the first time.
Neither did I.
+Insanity Allegra For the record, I paused the video when he started going on about Derpy.
You know maybe if Hasbro hired Mr Enter as a writer he will prevent episode like "Rainbow Falls" or "Somepony to watch over me" from happening.
Or "Putting Your Hoof Down". Seriously, that episode I bad in my opinion.
Am I the only person who thinks Rarity and Applejack shouldn't go to things like this? Applejacks inability to lie means she will at best get things at what she values them as and no less. I.E. She has trouble talking people down. And Rarity, being generous, will probably give more then what she thinks something is worth. I know they have both on occasion failed to live up to their element but 90% of the time they usually follow it.
This plot reminds me of the Ed, Edd, and Eddy episode where the Eds had to keep trading things to get a chicken from Rolf. Or was it an egg I really don't remember well.
There's also a Phineas and Ferb episode with this plot.
I saw this plot in Chowder.
This episode reminded me of the fetch quests you run into in video games, especially the Animal Crossing ones where you go to get an item from the person who borrowed it, only to be told that they lent it to someone else... and the chain continues. Once I was sent to EVERY character in the town before getting the item, and it turned out that the animal directly next to the person looking for the item was the one that had ended up with it.
:See the dislike bar before watch the video:
Yup, he didn't like it that much
>Element of loyalty
>Trades her friend for a book
I honestly don't see how the wheel chair pony could bring up any controversy. Then again, I couldn't see how derpy did either. Some people just need to grow some thick skin, a pair of balls, and stop being offended for other people even though the 'targeted' group wasn't offended themselves. I'd be happy to be represented in a show if I had a disability.
I really hope this show keeps making GOOD episodes. I would hate to see this show be reduced to a stupid girls show, and see the fan base decline. MLP FIM has potential to improve. These writers have to try their hardest.
Other shows have gone through decline in entertainment, like family guy, or the fairly odd parents. TV shows that try to last forever turn to shit eventually, if MLP FIM ended in a good way then I would be happy.
Someone needs to remind these writers that just because something is intended for children doesn't mean you half-ass it. Children aren't stupid, they might not understand some things but kids are functional human beings, not brainless vegetables.
If shit like this continues then all hope is lost.
Good.
The pony in the weelchair things is based on a real person his name is Sylvain LeVasseur-Portelance.
In real life, Sylvain is a teen who suffers from a muscle disease known as Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 3, and is also involved with a foundation called Rebecca Run that promotes awareness of SMA. Sylvain himself is personally responsible for raising several thousand dollars towards one day finding a cure.
TheMysteriousMrEnter - The wheel-chair pony was the oc of a fan who asked that his character be given a cameo in the show, or something like that. There was never any intention whatsoever of insulting the disabled.
***** Wasn't the controversy either that bronies were complaining an OC got on the show because it was "SJW pandering" or something, then a second one that they started making a ton of porn of that OC even after the creator/the creator's mother (I think) publicly said they didn't want people to do that?
(Also just to add to the whole certain infamous background pony thing bc I'm too lazy to make multiple comments I'm not sure what the consensus is on the voice acting/personality of the character and I don't want to go on and pass a total judgement on it since I'm neurotypical, but from what I heard at least part of the problem was the name used in the episode since "derpy" and derivatives originated as a way to mock people with downs syndrome. Consider the hand flapping and voice used back when people started doing that. I personally like some of the other fan names like Bright Eyes or Bubble Wrap as alternatives)
I like stellar eclipse (wheel chair pony) I just wish his color scheme was better I know he's the VA's OC they could done better and honestly why would anyone have a problem with him being in a wheelchair we seen a wheelchair in read it and weep also flight to the finish scootaloo might be disable so why would a pony in wheelchair contraption be an issue when scootaloo could be disable herself and no pony is making a big deal about it in the show I don't get the controversy But I like stellar eclipse
His color scheme and wheelchair style gives him some reminiscent to Steampunk
brassboy212 I like it on the wheelchair not so much on Stellar that's just me.
Just a little thought...
But the whole infamous scene where Fluttershy is 'sold' sounds more like... They're buying her SERVICES, not.... her. It's the same as selling an accountant or even a doctor, sure as hell not legal nor was it RD's decision, but no one was intending to enslave Flutters forever.
Still, the point stands that it was horridly executed. :/
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I love the wheel-chair set up :)
I loved this episode. Each pony had unique interests, the pacing was great, the jokes were funny and the embarrassing parts did not continue for to long.
I thought the controversy was the 34 of the wheelchair character? He wasn't really portrayed like a moron like derpy so I don't know why people would have an issue.
Throughout the Rainbow Dash/Fluttershy story, I did not see Fluttershy's timidity as the focus. The timidity was used only as an easy extra obstacle that would frustrate Rainbow Dash, along with the low demand for a rusty horseshoe, the broken chalice, the lunch break, and the vendor changing her mind about the diet cerberus. As Rainbow's frustration increases, her balance between Logos (logic and reason) and Pathos (emotional frenzy) tips in favor of Pathos. Rainbow Dash clearly isn't thinking about what she's giving up here, as she has abandoned logic and seeks only after her emotional desire for the book. Also, Rainbow Dash clearly doesn't recognize the dexision she has made qt first when she talks to Fluttershy as if she were right by her side, also able to celebrate with her instead of being led away as an indentured servant. Hopefully this clears things up for the better.
This is my absolute least favorite episode. I hate it. On top of being horribly boring due to everything in the episode being painfully predictable, the one part that isn't predictable is absolutely reprehensible. RD basically traded Fluttershy away to do a job where she's unpaid to work for an unforeseeable amount of time. In other words, human, er, pony trafficking and slavery. And the worst part? Twi's just like, "Nope, you said it's fair so it's fair." No, it's fucking not. Trading a book for a person isn't fair. Even if the two people in the trade agree upon it, that doesn't make it fair because it completely takes Fluttershy's say in the matter out of the equation, which is inherently unfair. And I realize that Fluttershy gave the okay. However, the episode also went to great lengths to show what a pushover Fluttershy is. So how can it be viewed any way other than to see it as her being walked over again? Even if she agreed of her own volition, it still doesn't mean she's not possibly caving to pressure and what RD might think or do if she doesn't agree. I hate this episode. It makes my head hurt in so many ways. Namely facepalming.
just have to say that the disabled pony is an actual OC of a real person that is a brony, i even watch' im on deviantART
2:18 I actually like this scene, it was a quick way at telling us how the trade far works and it gave us a REASON as to why Spike was absent for this episode.
This episode is kind of a guilty pleasure because Rainbow and Fluttershy's story reminds me of the trading quests in the legend of zelda games (plus it involves my favorite pairings in the show).
I'll give Scott credit and say that this was a good improvement over his last episode. He can make very funny episodes but the problem with him is that he relies on old character tropes in previous episodes instead of making unique ones. All he has to do is show the audience something we haven't seen before and he could be up there with Dave Polsky. I liked Twilight's side of the episode but when she did that speech after the crowd left was so sudden like if she either already knew the books wont be traded or she was so desperate to write another letter to Celestia so she staged the whole thing.
🎶 Exposition! exposition! rush it out ASAP! 🎶
Fun fact: In Greek Mythology, Orthros was Cerberus' brother. Both were born to Typhon and Echidna.
I disliked this episode the first time I watched it. When Rainbow sold Fluttershy into slavery [I'm using the word slavery because that's exactly what it is], i felt like punching the screen.
This proves you don't know what slavery is.
songofthesouthfan2 What do you think slavery is?
movieguy2611
It's not slavery because Fluttershy went with the pony on her own free will. Second, once she finished training that dog, she would be able to leave. If It was slavery, she would have to stay in manehatten for her entire life. So, no it's not slavery.
songofthesouthfan2 Okay, maybe not slavery, but she still traded Fluttershy, which, if you ask me, is very dehumanizing- sorry, deequinizing.
Also, I thought the controversy surrounding the Make A Wish OC was the fact that people made porn of him, which went against the wishes of both his creator and his creator's parents.
I feel the same way about the episode. I see the problems, but I'm still able to enjoy the good things it brought to the table. Random but I really like that orthros design.
I loved the Orthros. Made me want a real-life double doggy so bad!! Curse you genetic engineering, when are you gonna catch up?!
It earns points with me for the pairings though. Trying to play the main six slice of life comedy in this setting works, and I don't feel the episode was trying to teach fluttershy a lesson from the beginning. It was useing her passive nature as gag and gimmick of the character. Despite how much fluttershy may have grown these aspects of the character don't really go away, . Their arc is much more focused on rainbow dash getting her book. And really the lesson is about the sacrifices you make to help out your friends that rainbow dash calls rarity and applejack out on. I did however feel that twilight may have been wanting to trade the books for the quill not because the quill had any value, but because she would like to have the books educate somepony else rather than collect dust.
I thought the controversy was that cloppers were making porn of the wheelchair pony, when the pony's creator's mother asked people not to
I think many people already refute the Fluttershy slavery thing, so I'm gonna tackle something else; FS's (apparent) meekness.
While it's true she already learned to say NO in previous episodes, in Trade Ya FS actually CHOSE not to say no since multiple times she really wanted RD to get that book, even at the expanse of her own.
Personally, I really liked this episode for the humor & character interactions, all these problems MrEnter pointed out are simply nitpicks. Bad exposition? Most episodes, even Pinkie Pride had them. AJ & Rarity seem petty? Who hasn't been petty sometime in their life. Predictable story? Do you really predict FS to want to go.
I'll admit RD did seem OOC about that book, but she's just distracted on the prospect of finally completing her set.
You are the only person who agrees with me!!!
I'm pretty sure Othros is a direct reference to Orthrus, a two-headed hellhound and Cerberus' brother(?). So, does that mean they literally traveled down to the depths of hell just to retrieve this two-headed dog?
.Talking about Greek Mythology. You know who I wanna see in the show? Echdina and Python
This is pretty much what I feel for this episode.
It does call back alot of episodes I don't like and there are a few problems, but there are things about it that are hard for me to hate.
Wait, some morons found the pony in the wheelchair offensive? Whoever it was, screw them; that guy was even more respectful regarding his disability than Prunella's blind friend Marina from *Arthur* (and that was her whole purpose). Honestly, my dog would be kinder than those whiners...
Thank you for continually using music from Terranigma, one of the GREATEST VIDEO GAMES EVER. Now, if you could find some way of shoehorning in The Final Boss Theme, I would be eternally grateful... :)
There was a controversy over wheelchair pony? Da fuq.
It's nice to see yet another reference to a more obscure mythical beast in MLP; Orthrus (the Diet Cerberus) is actually a legitimate creature from Greek mythology.
Talk about aluminum christmas trees.
About the wheelchair pony, I've heard his story, but I don't think there was any controversy that I've heard of. And, I think the kid wanted it to be small as possible, but it was NOWHERE near as bad as Derpy in "The Last Roundup".
there was some controversy and also some bronys being assholes and complaining a random kid gets on the show despite the fact that HE HAS A TERMINAL ILLNESS!
I liked the moral with Twilight was pretty good, although it's not always entirely correct. You shouldn't always hold on to stuff, although it is important to think twice before throwing something away.
But the thing is, I don't think it was a 'moral' per se. The episode was mostly showing us why Twilight loves her books. If they had waited until after the finale when she was mourning the loss of her library, it might have seemed a little shoe horned in. But we know they thought it all out. This episode's best part for me was making that moment from Twilights Kingdom so much deeper
y'know, scott sonneborn worked for Celebrity Deathmatch and Angela Anaconda, so I was pretty horrified when I found out that he was going to write an episode on MLP
In my opinion, the comedy sucked, mainly because I was so frustrated by how predictable the plot was that I didn't give a shit about the jokes.
I thought the Make-A-Wish character was really cool, design and personality.
Uh... news flash. Not everyone watches the trailers (I watched this on Netflix without reading the description, for one.) So not everyone knew about the trading thing in Rainbow Falls. The exposition was kind of needed, so removing a point for that was pretty... not a very smart move.
+Commenter839 Exposition is okay, but when you have it, you need to make sure that the characters that are on the receiving end of it don't already know what's going on. Pinkie was giving exposition to characters who already knew what they were doing and why, so it came off as awkward.
This guy made Angela Anaconda.
Scott, not MrEnter.
Maybe it's just me, but aj, rarity, and their entire conflict seem really shoehorned in with this episode.
This was a decent episode. Defiantly not the worst and was still entertaining. Right now though, I am too excited for the next episode to care. I have been waiting for this one for awhile.
I know this review is about 2 years old, but...
I actually loved the design of the wheelchair pony. When I first saw this episode, I was watching it with my Fiancé, who is a Brony, and the first thing out of my mouth was "wow! I love the design of that pony!" I'm not kidding. I really liked the character design. Am I missing something? What is this... "controversy"? I understood with Derpy (though I didn't like how she was censored when Snails is portrayed stupider than Derpy- and Derpy sounds almost like a female version of Snails in terms of how she talks. So they should censor him too with that logic)
I'm not disabled, but I think they should include more designs like his, because some kids would be legitimately able to relate to him. They may not have addressed him, but if you were wheelchair bound, would you like people gawking at you? Or treat you like a normal person?
Maybe it's just me? Maybe I'm just oblivious?
But I loved that character design, and I hope they make more like him!
wait there was a controversy over the inclusion of a character in a wheelchair? for what, existing? it's not like they ever even MENTIONED the wheelchair in the show. i fail to see how this is a problem.
I know, right? In fact, the first time I watched this episode, I didn't even notice he was disabled.
Here is how I judge episodes....Did I enjoy watching it? That's it. The only episodes I say no to are; Spike at Your Service, Somepony to Watch Over Me, Twilight Time.
In fact. Rainbow Falls and Power Ponies are in my top 15 in the series! Favorite episodes. I love how cheesie Power Ponies is. The villain is deffinatly a Silver Age villain. One with plans that make no sense. Plus I love puns! Can't have superheroes without puns!
I was watching (great review btw) but you have to remember something: new viewers. Anyone who has never seen the show (and don't have an internet connection) won't know what has happened before if this is their first episode. The writers are actually doing a good thing with Pinkie and Twilight's exposition because, while to fans it will seem redundant, many new watchers will pick up on it quickly.
Moldorm is a burger. How have I *never* notice that?
Honestly, I liked this episode. It felt like something calm before the storm, especially since the next episode is the Olympic games one.
In fact, I love every episode of MLP simply because I get to see my favorite characters again. Are there duds? Yes. Do I care? No, I'll still re-watch them simply because I get to see those characters and how they interact in this world known as Equestria. People should really lighten up considering that the series didn't have to continue after season three. In fact, it didn't need to continue after season two. And yet... we're getting a fifth season. :/
This fandom continually looks the gift pony in the mouth.
I really liked this episode, it was funny and pinkie has a mustache.
This is like Zelda Trading Sequence: The Episode
3:11 oh no it's the sales guy from putting your hoof down. NO ONE BUY FROM HIM.
Similar to Power Ponies and Rainbow Falls, I consider this episode flawed but enjoyable.
Can somebody tell me what metaphor that the next episode conveys?
5 seconds faster for cooking pies is actually a lot when it comes to a pie business
what is that song when you were talking about the overview of the episode at the end? It sounded like the song of time from tLoZMM. *I know it came from OoT but I only played MM.
8:44 I'm sorry, what? She spend the entire rest of the episode trying to get the trade called off, I think that makes it abundantly clear that she was just acting out of impulse and not thinking about her actions here. That's perfectly understandable. She should have reigned in her impulses better, but it does not point to her valuing the book over Fluttershy. And although Fluttershy was not happy with her part of the deal, she made it pretty clear that she was fine as long as it made RD happy--if it didn't make RD happy, or if she didn't care about making RD happy, I think it would be reasonable to assume that she wouldn't have gone along with the trade. I'm sorry, but I just have no idea where you're coming from here.
Where does this episode reference spike at your service?
Just gonna say that Pinkie's segment with Twilight was my least favorite. Yeah, Rainbow/Flutters and Rarity/AJ's segments were cliched and rather poor in quality, but when Pinkie started saying too much about Twilight and humiliated that poor filly (yes, it was justified, but hey, imagine if it was just that filly asking for an autograph) and it brought me "A Friend in Deed" flashbacks. You do not want to remind me of that travesty. And hey, we can add another offense to her list of crimes, promoting hoarding! (yes, I know this isn't a crime, but hey, imagine if Twilight starts stealing things, we can point it all back to her...) Woohoo, Pinkie, you're on your way downhill for me again...ugh.
Hey, I stopped watching the show after Season 5 started, I don't care anymore. ;) lay it thick.
Is it just me who thinks the writers made rainbow dash really unlikeable in this season
Ok, I laughed really HARD when you point out how ironic is the combination of writers and plotline of the next episode XD
I hate when episodes do really bad but they are enjoyable. It's like something that is good ONCE, or just the first time.
i didnt even notice that guy was disabled until you mentioned it
Can you do Mixels for animated atrocities?
YES! Why on earth did Lego think that would work?? Ugh.
I don't get somehitng
¿Why this take place in "Rainbow Falls"? i can't see the conection :S
"I am an extremely entitled brony. How dare this episode reference other episodes I don't like. I am the main fucking reason this show is still on the air, and I deserve better treatment than this!"
The main reason the show is still on is because it is still a good show even when they have bad episodes like Spike at your Service, and it is also because of all the brony's and pegasisters that support it. So calm the fuck down and look at the pretty ponies that we and many others enjoy around the world!
Aaron Graft Are you aware I was just making fun of bronies who bitched about this episode mentioning Spike at your Service? Hence the quotes? Stop victimizing me, just like all these writers do with these references to bad episodes.
Sorry, couldn't tell.
SoukerWorldGaming "Stop victimizing me,"
* Scratches head * I.... don't think that..that's how that word.....is used..
*sexy
He's not doing Leap of Faith because Haber.
Up-vote this comment so people can shut up about it.
*sigh* Are you really telling me you don't comprehend the difference between including a mentally-challenged character depicting them utterly screwing up everything and being a physical hazard to themselves and all the people and objects around them implicitly sending a message that any such person is not to be trusted with any tasks and should perhaps be put somewhere permanently out of the way in order to stop them from harming themselves and those around them.....
And including someone with a disability that is portrayed as normal and competent at what they do?
After that Breadwinners review I thought you were going to take off longer than that. It's nice to see a new episode review though.
Cars 2 next time? Bring it on.
3:37 Ugh, I despise this kind of plot! I've seen it so many times before, and it never gets better for any more of the times that I see it!
When I achieve my dream of becoming a children's book writer, I'm going to avoid this plot at all costs! I don't think I'm the only person who can't stand that kind of plot! >:(
Yeah, you're probably not. I can see where you're coming from, but I personally don't mind this plot. Doesn't mean I love it, but it's not that bad imo.
@@ethnictendo Oh my gosh, I was so vitriolic about this kind of plot, huh? I'm still working on that dream, but I don't sweat the small stuff as much nowadays. In fact, I haven't really been seeing this plot crop up in other shows I've taken interest in!
You're right though, it really isn't something to get worked up over :)
@@mariahs6 I actually used to have a similar dream, but that dream was kinda crushed, so now I'm working towards something similar: making cartoons. So yeah, I've taken interest to this sort of thing, hence why I'm learning about all sorts of stories.
@@ethnictendo Ah! Best of luck! I'm hoping to do animation on the side, 2D Animation's been my jam for a long time!
"Scott Sonneborn; do you want us to hate you as a writer?"
I love you for saying that. Overall though, I completely agree with what you said ;)
This is probably my least favorite episode. It was filler. Everything. Was. Filler.
0:36
What pony is that in the background...
(in the tent)
So, I have an idea for the Fluttershyproblem.
Rainbow could have made a deal, that Fluttershy stays and trains the Cerberus, until the one with the DaringDo book has to go back to Manehattan (Or whatever).
But Fluttershy wouldn´t have the time to trade her whistle, then.
So, Fluttershy has to stand up for herself and Rainbow learns you shouldn´t make deals about someone else without their involvement and Fluttershy learns to stand up for her, if something seems unfair.
(Sorry, english isn´t my first language)
read the description of the next episode. my small and withered optimism went, "oh, well that might be an interesting spin on...."
and then i saw multiple writers...
Mr. Enter, it helps if you believe that the events of Daring Don't were only a hallucination brought on by RD's bump to the head in the opening.
WTF was with still frame of Moldorm at the end?
When I watch it I was like "wait, is that make Fluttershy a slave?!"
Wait, someone actually had a problem with the wheelchair guy?
If you wouldn't have mentioned the wheelchair pony, there wouldn't be so much discussion about him. You don't have to provoke it.
Yeah, the episode was pretty mediocre...
Ya know as much as I hate Best Wishes at least it's never ref- OH WAIT!
Ash: Pikachu Electro ball
Me: X_X
Derpy's real daughter, ladies and gentlemen!
This episode feels like a complete rehash of an Ed, Edd & Eddy episode called, "Who, What, Where, Ed?".
After Twilight showed the book about Spike at your service didn't she say "and this book reminded me of when I got it, when I meet you Pinkie" or a line like that, isn't that a story error? Celestia gave her that book so the one "she got when she met Pinkie" could not be true as Celestia didn't give her book until season 3 and she sent a few others so many in fact it caused Spike to get a day off that resulted in the episode, Twilight "couldn't" have gotten it when she met Pinkie unless I really heard that line wrong?
Actually i looked it up and the "diet Cerberus" is a real thing called an Orothus and is basically the Cerberus's little brother
TheMysteriousMrEnter I like this episode because of Pinkie Pie, the mutant animals, and the Luteces Twins from Bioshock were in the background. And yes this episode is 1000 times better than Somepony Watching Me because Applejack in Trade Ya only acted petty not like a psychotic soccer mom with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and it left me with the impression that Applejack did not take her medication in the Somepony Watching Me episode because she was completely out of character
I feel the exact same way about this episode. I like it when I don't think about it to much but when I really think about it, it becomes full of holes.
Please don't say "diet" Cereberus! The last time someone used a "diet" joke they ended up reviewing a horrible movie! *Coughing* Nostalgia Critis and the Lorax! *Coughing*
Well look at it this way, with the streak of good episodes we had between Somepony Watching Over Me and this episode we were eventually gonna have a dud. I may not share some of the hate that this episode gets, but I can agree that I was pissed off with Rainbow Dash's actions. It's a weak episode yes, but at least to me it shows that Scott Sonneborn is slightly improving with his writing. I hope he gets better if decides to write for Season 5.
Hi Mr Enter. Is it okay if I use your hit point system in my reviews? I'd like to make Steven Universe reviews and thought using the hit point system would help me a lot. Id just like your approval though.
2:50 Didn't she specifi that it's a 1st edition a few seconds ago?
2:55 perhaps it's the only signed 1st edition.
The highlight of 'Trade Ya' was when Terranigma music started playing in the background - oh wait... no that didn't happen :/
I ment to double click the screen for full screen. I clicked right at 4:06 first thing i see too
I love rainbow's face at 6:08 😂
"Would've taken only two words"
Text: Rainbow Dash, "Wait, what?"
Yeah, no. I'm afraid that wouldn't have helped any. If there's one thing I know about fandumbs, it's that they will fucking ignore sentences YELLED IN THEIR FACES for the sake of calling something out on being a hypocrite or stupid, etc.
Take Pokemon for example. Nobody but me seems to know about the line "Pokemon aren't meant to fight. Not like this." from Nurse Joy during the first movie. Now how about something more recent?
Ash: Hold on, you're-
Newtwo: I am Mewtwo.
Everyone but me: Ash dunt rummber mootoo, writarz sux.
Seriously, these lines are RIGHT THERE and everybody misses them. Frankly, even your idea was the reality, people would still fucking ignore it in favor of making Rainbow Dash out to be a fucking selfish asshole who doesn't give a damn. Even in the best of fandoms, the majority are dumbasses who only give a fuck about what they interpret things as, and any evidence to the contrary is nonexistant, no matter how much you shove in their face the fact that they are WRONG.
This episode definitely made me think of point and click adventures