I'm still trying to figure out why he said it. I mean, I'm trying to figure out if there is a pun or something. I don't get it. Aside form putting a picture I don't want in my head in my head, why was it done?
SuperSwordman1 he basically meant that realistically, fluttershy would only be competing if she did something that would give her an unnatural boost to her physical capabilities such as messing around with discord.
This episode is not only my least favorite, but this episode confirmed my absolute hatred for Spitfire. I seriously despise her because I've seen this type of behavior in real professional athletes she demonstrated in this episode. I get it, Rainbow is probably a better flyer than Soarin, but how Spitfire treated her teammate is disgusting to me. I've always believed the saying, "Win as a team, lose as a team." Her attitude kills the episode for me, though it wasn't really alive to begin with.
Racin' Mason YES!! I USED TO BE A SPITFIRE FAN BEFORE I SAW THIS EPISODE! I highly disliked how disloyal she was to Soarin, ESPECIALLY since he suffered from that injury! The continuity in the show makes things worse for her this episode because a previous episode The Wonderbolts Academy, Spitfire learned that you need to push yourself in the right direction! Not being reckless! You'd think she'd more considerate here.
AkaTheSnake The part where Spitfire pissed me off the most was when Soarin revealed to Rainbow that nopony had visited him since his hospitalization. If MY teammate were injured, I would make damn sure I'd have time to practice and time to spend with my friend.
I actually have an idea in my head (that sadly was made mostly unusable by "Parental Glidance") that Spitfire when trying to get into the Wonderbolts she was pretty dirty. Like Lightning Dust, only worse. Less subtly. And in case anyone wants to fight me on this, notice she only ever pulls back and does the right thing when she's directly confronted with being wrong.
Let's just pretend this episode never existed and that daring Don't was Rainbow Dash's key episode. I felt that episode dealt with loyalty better than this atrocity.
This episode had a lot of pandering in it. Too many background characters. Derpy overload. It's almost like they just made lots of Derpy appearances just to distract fans from the rest of the episode. And you're really not missing much if you miss the rest of it anyway.
+Space Woona Honestly, Season 5 got so bad with the pandering and the weaker episodes that I just had to stop for good. I really hate it when they wave this stuff in front of bronies's faces just so they can ignore the sloppy writing choices... Bread and circuses, people. Bread and circuses.
People bitching about other people "not respecting" his opinion, completely ignoring the fact that people actually have the power to disagree with him.
The current score says it all,majority of people agree with him,and so do I.I felt dirty and manipulated when I watched this episode with Derpy and all,and story is just plain stupid. Regardless,even If I don't agree with him,it doesn't matter, I mean I like Look before You Sleep,for SOME reason,but I'm ok with him tearing that ep apart.
Goremize Like I said,I didn't liked this episode when it came out,so his review didn't change my mind.Also: "The current score does say it all The fact that he has so many dislikes against his like means most DO NOT agree, as well as the fact he has so few subs, Think about that other reviewers Get 0dislikes and 100's likes," Bullshit,score says 290 vs 70 thats less then 1\4 Also,Why? Why he must like every single episode in order MME get million subs? That's not goal of MME.Purpose of MME videos is to say his own opinions,point out flaws that some other reviewers don't point out and he has courage to do so.He swears,he attacks episode that he thinks are really bad because they deserve this treatment.Character bending,poor writing,pathetic mean spirited humor is not something we want on MLP show,MME points these flaws out and teaches us that poorly written fanfics does not deserve place in show of this caliber. He also praises instances of good episodes as well,pointing out good thinks giving them medals,and his live scoring system does show whats wrong with episode on fly.(score is shown to fluctuate during the review ,which I like,it feels natural,its like watching an episode with him in same room and debating while we are watching,clever) And also: Does every single fucking episode HAS to be liked? Don't you dare force me to like Boast Busters,Putting your Hoof Down or Feeling pinkie keen.I hate those with burning passion.Why? Because I think they are bad.Every fucking one has their own opinion.If you like every episode,fine,but I have my own points of view,and so does MME.
Goremize Mr Enter never thinks differently of anyone who likes an episode he hates. He just expresses why the episode was bad in his mind. Also, a lot of people like me and Djekic didn't like the episode either before he reviewed it. I mean personally, other than Derpy coming back, nothing in this episode made me smile, or think that they had done anything clever or smart like they did previously. But hey, all show's have those few episodes that can't be as well made as the others..
This is now one of my favorite reviews of yours, including Spongebob, You're Fired and Chicken Little. You stated every last thing I thought was wrong in this episode and more. Good show old boy. Good show. Let's hope your fans don't go all Power Ponies Review on you this time.
10:34 Whoa. You had a lot of good points in this review, but that was the most surprising one. I think the writers weakest point is creating new villains, but making pre-existing characters (that Rainbow Dash still looks up to) into jerks was also a terrible idea.
Actually, Dash said that they wanted Ponyville to qualify to "make it to the games", implying that if they don't win, Ponyville would have no longer had the chance to go to the games. That would mean if they didn't become one of the 4 or 5 teams to reach the goal, the CMC wouldn't be able to carry the Ponyville flag, making the episode pointless. Why they would not let Ponyville be unable to make it to the games because they disqualified in one event is FAR beyond me.
***** I think she means Ponyville making it to the games in Aerial Relay, or maaaaaybe that the event's the first one to do qualifications and if they qualify, Ponyville's in the games. It doens't make much sense to have a mandatory event, especially one that involves flying since that would eliminate the Crystal Empire, Appleoosa, and any other community with a negligible winged population from entering.
nyniuni Good point, but from what I've gathered, it seemed like by the games she meant the ACTUAL Equestria Games themselves, which is stupid as hell. Why would you make one event mandatory for your town, and if they don't win, you're instantly banned from the games? The episode didn't make it clear enough, which made it seem like she legit meant the Equestria Games.
So many people at Equestria Daily and elsewhere list "Rainbow Falls" as their favourite episode of Season 4 - or at least Top 5. I don't understand why. MrEnter & VoiceOfReason are right; this episode is *_abysmal_*. It may actually be worse than "Spike at Your Service" and "Mysterious Mare-Do-Well". Corey really screwed up. In addition to the problems already mentioned, Twilight comes off as preachier than she needs to be, and I think that's due to the fact that the reasons she gives Rainbow Dash for not switching teams are the _wrong reasons_ (again, as mentioned). Don't get me wrong, I love that Derpy showed up. In fact, it was the highlight of the episode. BUT, the fact that Derpy's appearance is the best thing about RF is just further proof of how much it sucks. The worst part about it is this episode _could_ have been great... in the hands of a more competent writer (and maybe script editor). Renzetti never would've let this slide. Rainbow Dash episodes, in my opinion, are the most schizophrenic quality-wise, at least post-S1. MTBPW was enjoyable but MMDW - _the very next episode_ - was terrible. Read It And Weep was good again and Wonderbolt Academy was fine too. Then S4 completely screwed the pooch with Daring Don't (fun but shitty premise) and this trainwreck. And we still have one or two more Rainbow Dash episodes left in the season. Ugh.
You know, i was thinking of writing a fan...thing for Soarin based of this episode. I call it "Soarin Away" While in the hospital, Soarin sees the other wonderbolts flying around with Rainbow Dash through a window. At first he thought they were too busy to visit him, but now he realizes he's being replaced. Heartbroken and deciding his wing had healed enough, he runs away that night. (The wing was almost fully healed by this time) The next day, Spitfire and Fleetfoot learn of Soarin's disappearance. Spitfire is seemingly still potrayed the way she was in this episode, and shrugs it off confident he'll come back, stating that "Besides, we've already got a replacement flyer." But throughout the course of the day and training, she keeps the news in her mind, seemingly getting more and more concerned yet hiding it from Rainbow and Fleetfoot. After he doesn't return after the day ends, Spitfire finally snaps out of her character from before and becomes worried sick about Soarin, recalling the times they had together and then her painful disloyalty to Soarin. (When she remembers this, tears flood her eyes) She and the other Wonderbolts fly into the dark night to look for him. Meanwhile, we see a lonely, tired, and sad Soarin wander along a railroad track. He comes across a poster for a traveling show of some sort and decides to sign up for shelter. A man who is part of the show's staff sees that Soarin is a pegasus and, quite amused, has the ringmaster of the show agree to sign him up. The men lock Soarin in a cage and their train hauls him away to their next stop. Happy to find a new home and wishing Ponyville good luck with the games underneath his breath, he falls asleep in a corner of his cage. The next morning, we see nearly everypony in Ponyville and Cloudsdale frantically looking for Soarin, a few of which are even holding apple pies. Spitfire has them look absolutely everywhere in the area with no luck. A pegasus tells her they found him and excites a glimmer of hope in her eyes, the pony he found is revealed-but sadly, it is only a scallion saleperson mare that only looks a little like Soarin. (Apparently Soarin's physical information had gotten messed up between ponies) Finally when a crying Spitfire walks onto the railroad tracks and runs on them in desperation to find her friend, with Fleetfoot and the WonderBolts in hot pursuit, her tail brushes by a pole which has the same poster for the show Soarin joined. Reading the locations, she starts to fly above the tracks along with the WonderBolts. Soarin wakes up to heavy vibration as the train stops at their destination. He is excited to be performing for the first time, and flies right inside as he is introduced. Then we see the show's crew abuse Soarin, such as squirting cream on his wings and making him carry clowns on his back, which nearly breaks his spine. When he sees one of the clowns offer him apple pie, he happily flies down to eat his favorite food, only to have the clown smash it on his head as the crowd laughs. He starts to feel a little homesick but then remembers the WonderBolt's disregard for him and with a little anger, he walks over to the ringmaster, who holds him up as the crowd cheers his name over and over again, making him feel even happier. We transition to that night, where Soarin is locked back into his cage. The ringmaster walks over to him, saying how proud he is of the pegasus until he sees his WonderBolt ID. Soarin agrees to have the show staff remove the ID and throw it away. Then the train starts up and they get moving again. Soarin wakes up that morning only to find the train is on a dangerous railway. He gets scared, worried they'll fall over. Turns out he's not the only one as animals all over the train are panicked by the height. When an elephant leans on a side of its cage, the cage falls over and pulls the train with it! Soarin luckily springs from his cage and attempts to push the train back on the tracks. He is just barely successful until he sees the ringmaster falling off the edge, and after he saves the train he dives down and saves the man from plummeting to his death. The rest of the crew praises Soarin, which makes Soarin recall Rainbow Dash saving him and the look of greed Spitfire had in her eyes as she praised Rainbow. Looking at them a certain way, he is frightened to learn they have the exact same look of greed. Spitfire and her team wake up and keep following the tracks, asking ponies along the way. One WonderBolt flies up to Spitfire holding Soarin's ID, which makes her even more scared of losing him. That's about all i have down for this. I haven't worked out how i'm going to reunite Soarin and Spitfire or where or when they're gonna do it. I intend to altleast try to redeem Spitfire's actions here. _Please don't hurt me..._
Maybe at some point spitfire gets the same injury soarin originally got. She loses control midair and could easily slow herself down by spreading her wings in this gliding stance or repositioning herself for a softer landing but her guilt addled mind just lets it happen. Some begin to wonder if getting the same injury soarin had was intentional or if she’d intended something much much worse I got a little too into this
Hmmm... Fluttershy entering for "civic duty," incompetantly created teams, and an emphasis on trying to bring back as many medals as possible. All signs point to Mayor Mare running the teams and I can't tell if this was intentional.
What drove me nuts during this episode was all the missed opportunities to bring older characters back, and it would have fit the story perfectly, Remember Gilda and Lightning Dust? What if they were representing Cloudsdale? What if they challenged them on a personal level, that would lead to Rainbow Dash to push her team beyond what they could handle? I'm convinced they really forgot about Gilda, perhaps she'll show up at the Eqestia games with the other Griffons but I'm not holding my breath any more
the only logical reason that Rainbow Dash chose Fluttershy and Bulk is that literally every other Pegasus in town was occupied. But this gets thrown out the window when they find Derpy i guess hiding in their luggage and decide to make her Rainbow's replacement. Look I know you're obligated to use Fluttershy for this episode because she's the only other mane 6 that's a pegasus other than Rainbow, but the entire scenario is insane to say the least.
my worst episode personally as well. This is the only one that took me several sittings to go through. before this bad episodes made me fast forward over certain cringe worthy moments. This is the first one that made me take a break and do something else.
There are two major problems with this episode that I think you overlooked: 1) The plot is so predictable that it's insulting. It's the exact same problem I had with Games Ponies Play. However, what that episode had over this one was that GPP had memorable comedic moments. 2) Why are the Wonderbolts (except Soarin') made out to be dicks...again? What was the point of Spiitfire saving face at the end of Wonderbolt Academy if she was just going to repeat the same thing here? Why is Rainbow Dash allowing herself to forgive Spitfire twice for doing something that goes against her ideals/element? How many last minute half-hearted apologies will it take for RD to just say enough? I wish that the writers of the Wonderbolt Academy episode had Rainbow Dash just leave the Wonderbolts dream behind, and pursue some other athletic dream(like the Equestrian Games?) Like you said, there was no point in having the Wonderbolts be in the episode(same with Bulk Biceps.) All it does is make WBA pointless. It used to be one of my favorite episodes, until Rainbow Falls made it useless to me.
To be honest, I was kind of bored with this episode until Derpy showed up to... save it? The dialogue was so atrocious that I felt like I was watching an actual children's cartoon. I never feel that way watching FIM because they're usually more clever with their scripts.
I agree. This was trash. Not even Derpy, the griffons in the background, or how gorgeous Rainbow Falls itself looks could save this episode. It's now my 5th least favorite episode of the show.
i think the Fluttershy 180 in her personality and excitement to join may be the result of a lesson finally sticking to her. taking the hurricane fluttershy moral and having her improve from it in her confidence.
what did he say Flutters was out of char or something? she was perfectly in char she even said in the ep she hates this but will do it for RD/ponyville :) it's not like she hasn't done that before! (did not watch this review)
After rewatching this episode and your review of it, it's now one of my least favorite episodes of the entire series. They made new characters for the other Mane 6 to inspire, with the exception of Discord in Twilight's Kingdom, so why couldn't they have done that here? It's like you said in the review, the writing decisions in this episode aren't just bad, they're sloppy and lazy. I still hate Mare-Do-Well and Somepony to Watch Over Me more, but this episode still sucks.
Why do I get the feeling the writers are gonna make Rainbow Dash not join the Wonderbolts because she decides that "There are better things in life" or something like that and if they do THAT then the brony fandom will freak out cause not only was this something that the fandom wanted but something Faust envisioned.
Shit this was an embarrassment to the entire show. I didn't think inconsistencies could get worse. Oh so, Charlotte Fullerton is ahead of Corey Powell by a point. And they both made one shining gem and surrounded it with okay and bad episodes. Ouch, when season 4 bombs, it leaves no survivors.
I have to agree with MME. This was a bad episode that could have been done a lot better to the point where it could have made sense and been a great episode. Think about it, we had Games ponies play, which introduced this story arc idea and gave us something big too look forward to in season 4 since it was confirmed that they will happen, we had Flight to the finish which revealed that the opening ceremony is a big part and is just as entertaining as most Olympic ceremonies are, and this episode showed us one of the best parts of any Olympics, the try outs. But the sad horrible truth is that it failed miserably with the try outs. Now the only thing that could make up for this story arc is bringing it to a close so no more mistakes could be made.
What makes it worse is that it's also connected to the "Keys to Twilight's Kingdom" arc, so there's no way to skip this and watch Twilight's Kingdom without needing to watch this.
I can't help but wonder if Scootaloo was supposed to be on the team, but then Corey Powell remembered she couldn't fly and just gave her role to Flutttershy without changing her lines thus explaining why Fluttershy says and dose things out of character in this episode. take the stuff she said after Rainbow saved Soren, now imagine Scootaloo saying them in full fan-girl mode, started to make sense now doesn't it
She's also an alicorn princess who prefers to use her magic.So either a: she might have been on another team, or b: she might not be allowed to compete because she's an alicorn.
The strange thing is that I watched this episode three or four different times before watching other people's reviews. And I enjoyed it every time. Now after watching all the criticism it's getting (especially here)...I'm not sure whether or not I should reconsider my thoughts on the episode. Should I be firm in my opinion, or should I go with what's logical? If I stick with my personal views...does that make me ignorant?
no, it makes this episode a "guilty pleasure" technical value and entertainment value are completely different. this episode may suck from a narrative standpoint, but if you dont mind those flaws then you can still find it entertaining. and thats whats important.
Sounds like your struggling with Cognitive Dissonance (www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html) . Whichever choice feels right is what would be the best choice. But I usually go with the logical choice, and I feel a bit smarter about the science of writing stories when I do. But hey, that's just my opinion.
Always stick to what you believe in. Watch the episode with an open mind, but don't like other people change your opinions on it. I love the episode. As much as I love Mr. Enter's reviews... this one I highly disagree with. It's a good episode to me, and nobodies going to change that.
If your personal views is different from other reviewers, then stick with them because in no way does it mean that yours is worse than theirs. Heck, maybe you could have an even better view on the episode than most MLP analysts
There are so many plotholes, contradictions, contrived conveniences, stupid repetitive writing, dumb choices, mean-spirited acts & nonsensical turns this story provides. 1) Yeah, why the fuck is Bulk Biceps not able to fly well!? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever! He has 10 Wing-Power, was amongst those specifically chosen to flight into a HURRICANE, AND was chosen to be amongst the Wonderbolts. So why the hell is he so utterly NERFED here!? This is almost as bad as what they did to Twilight in Power Ponies....hell, this is WORSE then Power Ponies. Are they trying to imply the Wonderbolts take ponies who are barely able to lift themselves off the ground!? Don't you think there'd be some kind of strict rules against that at what is basically an airborne military academy? 2) Why would Fluttershy wanted to be involved in any kind of HUGE competition, even if it was for her friend's benefit? Is it because Rainbow Dash has confidence in Fluttershy now after the Hurricane incident? Maybe, but literally NOTHING was done to establish such a feeling if that's what they were going for. And last time I checked Fluttershy just BARELY managed to tip the scale in the Hurricane scenario...so maybe a better choice to represent Ponyville is necessary? And really? She wants to compete in a loud, Superbowl style event when she thinks Pinkie's cheering is "scary and loud?" How do you think an entire STADIUM filled with HUNDREDS OF SCREAMING PONIES is going to be, Fluttershy!? That is just grossly out of character for her; it's almost as bad as Dragon Quest, where Fluttershy was afraid to go out of the house to even watch a Dragon Migration despite literally STARING ONE DOWN. 3) Why Bulk Biceps in particular? A background pony who accomplished nothing then saying "Yeaaahh!" As I mentioned before he's grossly out of character at not being able to fly here; but aren't there many, many, MANY other Pegasi in Ponyville to choose from? What about all the really fast ones who went into the Hurricane!? Granted I know Bulk as 10 Wing Power; but if we're just throwing that at the window why can't we get someone who's more capable? 4) The Wonderbolts are beyond contrived. In the First Season, they're introduced as honorable top-speed flyers. In the Second Season, they're shown to be incredibly incompetent and offered no challenge to a fully grown Spike. In the Third Season, Spitfire is willing to reward Lightning Dust for willfully endangering (and nearly killing) all of Rainbow Dash's friends just because LD "had the extra edge". What kind of twisted military ideal lets someone advance in rank while nearly killing innocent civilians?! Now in Season 4, they want Rainbow Dash to join their team as soon as one of their friends gets hurt, not even giving said friend a chance to get back on his feet or at least even making sure he's okay. Why does the Element of LOYALTY, OF LOYALTY I REPEAT, LOOK UP TO THESE ASSHOLES!? 5) The Element of LOYALTY (once again) is willing to fuck over he friends (and Ponyville as a whole) just to fly with her "heroes"; who are becoming worse and worse with each Season? *Facepalm* 6) If she flew with the Wonderbolts to begin with, she'd be going against her own goal; having PONYVILLE qualify, not CLOUDSDALE. Didn't she think that she'd most likely become a social pariah in Ponyville if she did what she did!? Everyone would most likely hate her for it, like they did with the CMC in the Ponyville Confidential. 7) THOSE are the reasons Twilight gives for Rainbow Dash to not join the Wonderbolts!? Really? Just for the benefit of her friends? Granted those are good reasons, but as MrE said and anyone else with HALF a brain cell could figure out; what about all the OTHER reasons!?!?! -The Qualifying Event would've been pointless as a result; it literally would've been nothing but wasted effort on everyone's part. -Fluttershy & Bulk Biceps (no matter how hideously OOC they may be) were doing this for HER. How betrayed would they feel if RD just said "I wanna be with the best and you guys aren't the best." Yeah, because that wouldn't demolish their sense of wort at all; even if it doesn't make sense since BB has 10 Wing-Power and got in the Wonderbolts Academy alongside Rainbow (despite the fact that they are kicking that continuity in its proverbial nutsack); along with the fact Fluttershy just barely managed to tip the scale on a hurricane, so she has little self-confidence in herself as it is. How come Rainbow Dash never develops ANY sort of moral conscious in this sort of area? And if she does it's completely gone within the next episode! -Scootaloo won't get to go if no other team qualifies, and it was established that RD could basically carry the whole team herself need be. If they don't qualify, Scootaloo will be crushed she can't go. And if even by some slim chance another Ponyville Team qualifies (keep in mind they're spitting in the face of Hurricane Fluttershy with how little actual SKILLED fliers there are in Ponyville) how does she think Scootaloo will feel when she learns her idol not only stabbed her in the back, but betrayed her entire community just to be with a better team!? And worst off, Rainbow Dash KNOWS this because Scootaloo confessed to RD that she is essentially her hero. So what, does Rainbow Dash just not care about Scootaloo? Is she really THAT shallow!? Fuck this episode; I hate to say it, this is worse then Power Ponies. And while I'm glad Derpy is back, (THRILLED ACTUALLY) her presence alone does not save the episode from failing. It doesn't matter if you polish a turd, it's still a turd. In short, Derpy being here is like the song "Babs Seed" in One Bad Apple. Having one good moment in a terrible episode DOES NOT IN ANY WAY save it from failing; no matter how much others plead that it does. If an episode like One Coarse Meal had one funny moment, would that redeem the entire episode? No, because the episode is fucking terrible; and that's how it is with One Bad Apple & Rainbow Falls as well. Oh yeah, Rainbow Falls alright.....right on it's/her face.
Goremize Let me get this straight; stating my honest opinion about an episode...is being narrow-minded? Have you ever considered that I just happen to share the same opinion as the guy who made the review? I will not fight you on this, but stating my opinion is not being narrow-minded. Narrow-minded would be if I hated every episode of the show just for the sake of hating it and not trying to understand it's concept. Out of this entire Season so far, I only dislike Power Ponies & Rainbow Falls...everything else was fine for me; so I'd like to think I'm being fair. The only way my comment would've been "narrow-minded" is if I said I despised the episode, didn't give any reason for as of of why, and could not list any opinions why I hated it other than the fact that I hated it. At least I gave reasons for why I dislike it, all of which are credible. Flagging for someone for their opinion (if it's not yours and even if you don't like it) comes across as being unable to take criticism. And any and EVERY show is open to criticism, no matter how good the show is; Friendship is Magic does not escape that factor.
0:47 The really sad part is, this particular problem could've easily been fixed: instead of Fluttershy, have Derpy be the third pegasus on Rainbow Dash's team. You would still have Rainbow Dash be the only really competent flyer on her team, and thus have her tempted to switch over to the Wonderbolts team.
While I understand your reasons for not liking this episode, I personally think it's one of my favorites of the season so far. I just had so much fun with it that I didn't notice the character inconsistencies. I think Corey Powell writes the most unique stories for this show, and I really hope she sticks around.
I'd also like to add that I think Fluttershy wanted to compete in the competition because she learned to have confidence with herself in Hurricane Fluttershy, and because she's shown to care more for her friends than for her own needs.
***** Well, he did say that he liked it despite the character problems. I mean, people liked episodes like 'Power Ponies', even though, in this case, it was rather poorly executed. If you recognize that something has problems, that doesn't necessarily mean that you need to stop enjoying it; I don't think the guys who do the My Little Bloopers videos have stopped liking the show because of the animation errors (though, yes, for many people, problems with things like story and character do diminish their enthusiasm for a show or episode, and that's understandable).
9:15-9:18 That was my face reaction after Derpy came walking in. It's nice to see her back but to the bronys that keep saying that Derpy saved the episode sorry but you're wrong.
Here's another pony who could have been a better choice for the team: Twilight. Sure she's not all that athletic, but she's still a better choice then a pony who can barely stay airborne and a pony with stage fright so crippling she SHOULD HAVE coked and froze up at the qualifying rounds alone, let alone the competition. They had such a habit of shoehorning in Twilight and they actually passed up a chance to put her in where it would have made some fucking sense. Is it because she's a Princess? That doesn't seem to make sense as it wouldn't give her any advantage in a competitive race.
Then again, they did prove in a later episode that she couldn't compete because she's royalty, so at least they cleared up that plothole. Still got about 100 more in this episode.
+Lunara Hunter Twilight's a princess so she can't compete. One thing that I would have liked to see in season 4 is a competition with unicorns and that Twilight is sad that she isn't allowed to participate with that.
marinus18 Why? Being a princess doesn't make her a better flier, and the spell used at the games could have easily prevented possible cheating by magic.
I have a very simple explanation for why the Ponyville ponies aren't on the relay team. They aren't athletes, and they have more important stuff to do.
"I feel that Corey Powell was actively trying to insult my intelligence." "Blah Blah Blah target audience." This is something that needs to be addressed. She wasn't trying to insult YOUR intelligence, or any others. The episodes writing was bad, fine. But this sort of bullshit entitlement is something I expect from Tom Oliver, not from you. You're free to call out the episode's writing. It was sub par, you aren't wrong there. You aren't wrong with a lot of your other complaints. But nobody is out to get you. You, me, and all the other bronies aren't important enough. This is the the type of cringeworthy attitude that's seeped into the community for a while now. Comparing this to a fanficiton, then taking it personally destroys your credibility as a reviewer. C'mon, Enter. You're better than this. Just because an episode is bad doesn't mean your reviews should mirror them and also be sub standard.
Okay, I've stopped 1:29 in to the video and I'm going to say something to you Mr. Enter because you liked Hurrican Fluttershy as much as I did. Here's what I'm going to say, and I'm not saying it to force you to like this episode, but I want to explain something. Hurrican Fluttershy was two seasons ago. It's very easy for someone to change over an amount of time. Fluttershy to me is that kind of person who if given the chance tries her hardest to 'help her friends' she stood up to a Dragon, a Cockatrice, people who pushed her around, her friends at the end of bats. That's because she represents Kindness. I know that in Dragon Quest, it showed Fluttershy being frightened of Dragons again. But that just showed that when she was assertive she can get over her fears. HOWEVER, when someone needs her to do something, like let's say Rainbow Dash coming up to her and asking to fly in the olympics. I CAN SEE HER DOING IT! Because she can get over her fears! IT'S CALLED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! Okay... I'm going to resume the video...
As a fairly shy person (not even as shy as Fluttershy), even when I have to speak for my friends, I can get pretty nervous speaking in front of people no less competing in something. It had to be one heck of a development. And speaking in public (again, not even mentioning competing in a large competition) is a pretty common fear even if I am determined.
ChillerDuu I was a shy person at one time to... but when it comes to my friends I would do anything for them. Not to mention it was Rainbow Dash who helped her get past her fears. I'm not saying that Fluttershy isn't shy, I'm saying that ANYONE can get over their fears, even if it's something they're weak at. It's a stupid plot and I agree that Fluttershy shouldn't have been there. However, I will not say that Fluttershy can't do something she sets her mind to. We've already seen that she can.
Lone Pianoist I don't recall Fluttershy complaining when she got roped into cheerleading for the fate of the games for a one chance impression with the Games Inspector herself, so she's gotten at least partially over her fear of performance.
It's been a little over 6 months since I gave my original spiel on "Rainbow Falls", written while S4 was still airing. In that time, has my opinion shifted? If so, how? If not, why? Well... *_"Rainbow Falls" is probably my least-favourite episode of the entire series._* Seriously. I don't think there's a single episode of MLP I hate more. Even episodes I generally dislike like "It's About Time" or "Games Ponies Play" have at least _one_ redeeming quality to them. "Rainbow Falls" has _nothing_, apart from Derpy returning, but that's not enough to save it.
Here here. This is probably the only episode where it took me more than one sitting to get through, and is the only one I actually hate. Also, am I the only one who somewhat feels it had a bit of creator backlash as well, looking at both Equestria Games and Twilight's Kingdom?
Saltyoven Dave Polsky wrote both "Games Ponies Play" (which set up the Equestria Games) and "Equestria Games", that arc's start & end. Corey Powell massively screwed up his narrative with RF, even if she didn't mean to. So I wouldn't be shocked if there was.
Actually MrEnter, I mentioned this on another video, but to answer your question about Derpy being back "Why now? Why here?" its because the show staff has stated they've been keeping Derpy out of Season 4 up until now on purpose because they wanted her return appearance here to be a surprise.
I honestly don't understand the complaints about Fluttershy wanting to represent her town. I consider it a sign that she actually learned her lesson from Hurricane Fluttershy; people are always complaining about continuity with her as far as her learning her lessons from previous episodes, and then they start flipping out when she shows some goddamn confidence for once. People just confuse me...
Also, at 4:43 ... Scoots can't get off the ground on her own. At all. How the HELL is she a better flyer than fucking Bulk Biceps, who, at the very least, is able to get off the ground. You're really frustrating me today, man. My God...
I hate when people say it's out of character. The ponies might not change but little things like traits can waver; and when a shy pony shows some more confidence you have to think more about "I wonder how this could be?" rather than "That doesn't make sense."
Anna Rays That is a very valid point. Writing a shy character only as an obnoxious sociopath wouldn't be entertaining at all. HOWEVER, putting a character into a setting just for him to utterly fail at it for 22 minutes doesn't really add to the character, nor the entertainment. I believe his point is, that there is no reason for Fluttershy to be in this setting and since she isn't the focus of the episode, it could have been any other non-important character. I personally found it quite painful to watch them trying so hard, when I know that there are a lot of other ponies better suited for the job.
I think the time limit is the minimum time for a guaranteed qualification. It's like a track meet to qualify for the state tournament. They only take the top, let's call it 4, in an event if not enough people meet that limit. I'm assuming that Ponyville was competing after 4 teams had already broken that qualifying time. This would explain the need for a time limit, and it would also explain why 5 teams actually ended up qualifying. Unfortunately, that's pretty much all I can defend in this episode, it was just that bad.
Wow, everyone is hating on this episode. I understand why and to be honest I don't hate the episode but just wouldn't watch it as much. I've been watching rarity takes manehatten more for some reason.
I respect Mr. Enter's opinons of course, but I'll (mildly) disagree here. "Rainbow falls" wasn't the best episode, but it wasn't the worst, either. (And BTW, neither were "Putting Your Hoof Down" or especially "Dragon Quest." But anyway...) 1. I don't mind Bulk Biceps being retconned into a bad flier. They already did that with Twilight and FS's flying skill is all over the map depending on the script. I actually think that if they're going to make him a recurring character, it will make him much more interesting (did he bulk up to compensate for his puny wings? Is he channeling a lot of hurt because of his inability like Fluttershy and Scootaloo?) So i didn't consider that a big deal, as it just seemed like someone looked at Bulk as an actual character for the first time instead of a running gag.and worked out something interesting the writers might be able to do with him. 2. The Wonderbolts were assholes this episode. So what? Every main and major secondary character have had their turn at being assholes too..Its just their turn this time. And really, people in real life have bouts of priggishness too no matter how nice they might otherwise be, so I don't mind just chalking it up to them just having a lapse. As least they didn't cause a riot like Twilight. 3. Completely agree about RD's non-reasons for being on the relay team being nothing but a contrivance, the bad dialog, and the redundancy of half the main six. Like I said it wasn't the best episode. 4. I'll reserve judgement for why FS is participating. I'm very sure the Equestria Games is going to be a major two-partner or such, and they might go further into why she is participating there. It might be she honestly is trying to break out of her shell and build her self-confidence and the lessons form past episodes are sticking. But we'll see.
I don't see the wonderbolts as friends, I see them as a sports team, or organisation, and a competitive one at that. So if Spitfire thinks that one of hear team members aren't going to be as his 100%, she would switch out him to someone that she believes would increase their chances to win/qualify. That makes sense to me, what doesn't makes sense is why she tries to replace him with rainbow dash, and not another wonderbolt.
The Duke of Flame As I've said long ago, I noticed the trend for Keys happening whenever one of the mane 6 teaches another their element. So with that line of logic in mind, Daring Don't would have been a MUCH better key episode. Think about it, besides the moral of dash placing Daring so high on a pedestal, she doesn't see her own worth, Daring Do learned sometimes it is helpful to be able to count on others
And it seems I'm not the only one. Nickyv recently released a video entitled "Could Daring Don't have been Rainbow's Key episode?" Which goes over a correlation between key episodes happening once every 4 episodes with the sole exception of the finale, and Rainbow Falls, and talks about maybe there was a swap with the thing.
Does anybody notice the stallion saying "rules are rules" as he turns around... It looks like they only gave him one wing because there sure isn't a wing on the side we're shown when he turns to walk. X'D
Oh and pinkie and applejack weren't really flanderized, no offense but after being a long time watcher, I think your sometimes a little to quick to use this term, though I see how you would think its applicable here
Ross Pit: shark hunter Oh yeah I forgot about him actually. It seems there is actually a lot of people that like the episode (just look at the dislikes on this video and Voice Of Reason's). I just can't understand why anybody would like, in my opinion, the worst written episode of the show. When BronyCurious and Digibrony seemed to at least "like it" I wanted to tear my hair out.
I can't agree more with this review. This episode raises more questions than any other episode from the show so far. In fact, I consider this to be the worst Rainbow Dash episode ever made. Mare-Do-Well had bad execution, whereas Rainbow Falls suffers from everything. There are episodes like Putting Your Hoof Down, Boast Busters, Spike At Your Service, and a few others that are blunders, and Rainbow Falls fits that group. The season is halfway over at this point, and the only other episodes that I've failed so far are Daring Don't and Power Ponies. I can safely say that Rainbow Falls is the worst S4 episode so far. Corey Powell, what happened to you? You wrote Sleepless in Ponyville, an episode that made me actually like Scootaloo. Were you under pressure? Did someone force you to write their fan fiction? If so, this is a sorry excuse for an episode. It may be the worst episode in the show for me. The fact that this is canon hurts me. Whereas Rarity and Pinkie had fantastic episodes about their keys, Rainbow's was horrible. I seriously hope Fluttershy's key episode is good, because so far, it's like the Micro-Series... *shudders* Overall, fuck Rainbow Falls. It's one of the worst episodes this show's ever made, and considering the fact that there are only 6 truly bad episodes of this show: Putting Your Hoof Down, Boast Busters, Spike At Your Service, The Show Stoppers, Mare-Do-Well, and this. Seriously, that Fluttershy key episode better be good.
pcuspard That'll have to be the Breezies episode. I really hope that the episode takes place the same time Three's a Crowd does, since there was a mention of Breezies. Also, it'll have an excuse for Pinkie's behavior in Filli Vanneli. That really put me into a bad mood, because I love Pinkie, as she's my favorite of the Mane 6, but her actions... why?
Yeah, I truly can't wait for the Applejack key episode their always seems to be at the very least a foil in every key episode: Rarity:Suri Rainbow: Spitfire Pinkie: Cheese Sandwich Twilight: CMC Fluttershy: Breezies Applejack: ?
pcuspard Did Twilight Time's synopsis say that she's getting her key, or is the name a clue? I figured since Twilight's the main character, she'll get her key last. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I hope we have most of the key episodes be good, because Rainbow's already failed.
It's true Rainbow Falls failed hard... but Rarity Takes Manhattan was good, Pinkie Pride was good Let's hope Twilight Time and It ain't Easy with the Breezies are good and all the Applejack episodes this season were fantastic! But yeah Twilight Time's synopsis was that it would be the fourth key (or fifth depending on if Breezies takes place at the same time as Three's a Crowd)
Me again. I know that Putting your hoof down and rainbow falls are bad, but I also think that other awful episodes like One bad apple and Keep clam and flutter on should have got Zeros(0) too.
Damn... I mean, I know you stated your opinions and reasons and all but... geeze, I really can't find myself agreeing with you here. The fact that you gave it a 0 out of 5 is really harsh... But I guess there's nothing I can do to argue with you, but this is once more one of those times where I just can't see it through your eyes. Perhaps maybe I liked this episode because I'm nowhere near as passionate of a critic or analyst as you are, so it's easier for me to enjoy even lesser episodes of shows.
I enjoy show I know are bad. I find modern Spongebob (that's right!) hilarious on a darker level. A good rule of thumb, though, is to see if you can prove beyond enjoyment that a show is good. (It's good because characterization, story, etc.) Can you poke wholes in the review? If so, this episode may be better than he thinks.
i can think of one thing that backs up that big muscle horse thing not being able to have his wings carry him. his wings are too tiny to carry a big thing like him
I honestly think Twilight should've been the 3rd flyer, not only would she use her wings for once but it'll fit a lot better and not destoy past stuff like Bulk did.
Well even so she has yet to use them outside the opener, and can you honestly say using Bulk was a better idea? Twilight had a role/purposse in this episode unlike most of the others and making her the 3rd flyer would make even more sense as to why she's there. Also, how can she honestly be worse then Fluttershy in terms of flying in front of a crowd? If their not gonna use her wings TAKE THEM AWAY!
0:54 Fluttershy's and Bulk Biceps are in there because signed in to volunteer to be in the Equestria Games. Fluttershy, because she knew her fear would drift away when she is seen at a higher distance. This episode confirmed that Fluttershy has distant stage fright. Was it ever established she mentioned a distance in any other episode where she had to perform? Bulk Biceps, I'll get to him later. But he figured he'd good when he's got important tasks to accomplish. Again, was it ever established he WASN'T bad flying? And in fact, I'd add a point here. 2:11 Pinkie, didn't really do any harm in my opinion. She's pretty much moral support. 2:35 It's possible. Just look at Bulk Biceps in Wonderbolt Academy. He was actually trying to fly when all the others had no effort taken out to fly. This episode got Bulk Biceps, at one point, to be my favorite background pony. Bulk Biceps easily could've had a ten wing power, yes. Does that mean he's good at flying? No. Bulk Biceps got accepted into the Wonderbolt Academy, yes. Does that mean he's good at flying? No. Do they both say something about Bulk's muscle mass? Yes. It's actually good muscle mass. But muscle mass can only get you so far. 3:36 The Equestria Games has a limited amount of space, so with all the pegasi in Ponyville, about eighty of them, there's a good chunk that wouldn't be as lucky as Fluttershy and Bulk Biceps, since either, they know Rainbow Dash the best out of the event leaders of the games or Rainbow Dash was the last one open and Bulk and Fluttershy happened to be the ones who signed in. 4:05 Again, this episode confirmed that Fluttershy has distant stage fright. 4:14 To be honest, I thank all of their moral support and it's going to be used later to help with Twilight's reasoning to Rainbow Dash's conflict. 4:33 And they did. After all the effort in to the story, the animators were strained on time. 4:56 Two of the worst athletes, yes, but is it possible? Yes. 5:16 Or that they're practicing. It'd be cliche AND contrived if the worst athletes where good at that one thing they were chosen to do. 5:27 And sign up mind you. Plus, they signed up when the signups were open. 5:45 Sometimes, it's those techniques of exposition that shows a new writer knows what a concept comes to. 6:02 Fluttershy is doing what the writer was doing too. They were seeing if they understood what was happening. Corey passed and Fluttershy did too. 6:22 The Wonderbolts are looking for a replacement. All the other Wonderbolts are competing in other events. Every team needs to practice at all times, or they're automatically disqualified unless they take a break as it is scheduled, shown in that later scene with Twilight reasoning with Rainbow Dash's conflict. To add on to that, Spitfire's doing it for caution, in case Soarin doesn't get back to his team on time. 6:36 Spitfire hasn't known Bulk Biceps before the Academy. Rainbow Dash has saved Spitfire numerous times. Bulk Biceps was put under the same workouts as Rainbow Dash but didn't handle it quite as well. 7:19 Rarity hadn't covered the sports types yet. Give her some time. 7:50 It's been Rainbow Dash's DREAM to become a Wonderbolt. And by flying for Cloudsdale, she's making HER dream come true. It's that heat of the moment, like in Hey Arnold The Movie where Helga says she loves Arnold. 8:23 This is actually a technique that is used in real life. It confirms the phrase "the straw that broke the camel's back". If any of those points and those points alone replaced what was really in the episode, Rainbow Dash would not've reacted the way she did when Rarity, Applejack and Pinkie Pie were all mentioned. THEY are there for moral support! You can't have moral support without someone to support, which is both the smallest AND biggest reason not to fly for Cloudsdale. 9:16 Derpy's one of the ones not to sign up. That much I can hypothesize. Plus, she's another friend of Rainbow Dash so she's the first pegasus to come to mind. The fact Corey chose Derpy is more about the fans ready to see that she's a friend of Rainbow Dash and her team called her in at first thought. 10:04 They had to choose a replacement to keep the practice going. By now, the replacement would have so much catching up to do that Derpy was the first pony to come to mind. 10:30 Something that will bite Spitfire and Fleet Foot in the flanks. 12:03 Yes, I can't defend that. When an episode has a higher fan service ratio than even Double Rainboom, that's a problem. To be honest, I actually like this episode. It's actually structurally sound if enough thought is put into it. It seems "I" listened to problems that would've been problems out of any other context. That's why I don't think highly of Raining Helmets, my own Crazy Maze episode.
Wow those are some good arguments. But Rainbow wanting fly with the Wonderbolts goes against her character development in Wonderbolts Academy. In that episode she left the academy because she felt they were doing something morally wrong even though it was her dream to be a wonderbolt. They just through that out the window in that episode, and then they referenced the episode. It just doesn't add up. Also Bulk Biceps did take a little longer to take off but he could still get off pretty fast and could fly just fine.
While I agree this episode was bad, I am going to have to fight with you on Twilight. For a while now, people have been saying that she isn't acting like a princess, well here she kinda is. She is acting like Celestia in a way that she is trying to push her friend in the right direction instead of outright telling her what to do. And I think it is nice to see her mature to that point. She also said later on that not choosing is still a choice and that is also a good lesson. The episode is still awful but I feel like you glossed over some bits here and there.
THANK YOU! Someone else agrees with me on Twi! Why is it that everyone's been clamoring for her to act her role more, and yet when it happens everybody hates it. *Sigh. Though I have to agree with him on a few points, like the reasons she gave.
When DigiBrony whined about Twilight's behavior here I seriously wanted to smack him. Yeah, how dare we expect Rainbow to honor a commitment she made! And then she has the audacity to try and shirk her duties!
Merriwether Williams, wrote a very bad episode 1st, then kept getting better. Corey Powell, wrote a very good episode 1st, then kept getting worse. A collaboration with Meghan McCarthy, similar to Power Ponies, with Ed Valentine, a writer whose 1st episode was very good, might end up worse than 1 would think. Hopefully the best writer and the new writer with the great episode can make a successful 1.
It's "PEGASI" not "pegasae." The plural Latin form for most of the words finished in "us" (including "pegasus") is "i." For example: the plural form of "cactus" is 'cacti." I know "pegasae" sounds cooler, but it is wrong. Please let's stop saying it :(
and in case your'e wondering why he chose the color brown as the color for episodes he doesn't enjoy at all its to represent poo poo............i know it was kinda obvious but my stubborn and adding sides wouldn't allow me not to state it.
If you think that was bad, then you should see A Canterlot Wedding. That episode had Twilight Sparkle find the real Princess Cadence at the expense of all of her other friends, including her brother Shining Armor, who was her only friend before she came to Ponyville, so she really felt at rock bottom once they all left her. November 7, 2016, 11:48pm
One thing that always bothered me is Rainbow is FROM Cloudsdale, is she not? I mean, I know she went to Rainbow Falls with the intention of qualifying for Ponyville, but how would it be such a great betrayal if she decided to compete for her hometown? It's like being born in Canada, moving to the US at an early age, then competing for the American team at the Olympics. Stuff like that happens all the time.
I accept this episode is one of the weaker ones in MLP, however I don't think MME gave recognition to its good moments. Such as RD's conflict, epiphany & confrontation, Twilight's advice (sure her reasons are weak, but she handled RD's dilemma rather princess-y), the aesthetics (Rainbow Falls looks gorgeous), and of course, Derpy's portrayal. Now while I disliked Spitfire & Fleetfoot's behavior, I don't think it was OOC, since their character was never concretely established in the first place. Again, I would like to note they are here competing as civilians, also their demeanor should be regarded as separate from the Wonderbolt's status & achievement. Also, I really don't get why people hated the Mane 6's presence in character-focused episodes, it's not like they were shoehorned into the plot. It was perfectly logical they would all go to support the Ponyville team (Rarity, being an aesthetics designer, were inexperienced with designing sportswear, which emphasizes on comfort & kinesiology), just regard them as background characters for this episode. About Fluttershy, I'd like to believe her character developed by having stage fright lessened after Putting Your Hoof Down & Hurricane Fluttershy, those were 2 seasons ago after all. Though the part I disliked the most was Bulk Biceps' & Fluttershy's flying abilities retcon, why can't the writers at least portray them as a capable flier? Second most is, Ponyville really cannot find anypony better to represent it? What happened to all the pegasi in HF?
He explained how those "Good moments" were really weak. They could have been done better, but were played out weakly. The Mane 6's presence there wasn't bad since they were they to cheer. But any humor they tried to make with them failed and it felt pointless to put them there. And Fluttershy never clearly had stage fright lessened, It was shown she overcame it to help, but never that she had completely lost the fear. And her competing in a competition in front of thousands and being okay with it is total bullshit. She was basically in the midst of a tornado last time with the help of hundreds that wouldn't judge her for helping out, but still had thoughts that she was being judged. Here she's apparently supposed to fly with only two companions to complete an obstacle course in front of spectators who can and will judge her failure to fly competitively. You see the problem? And to answer your last question, that what made her and Bulk's presence there just sloppy fan-service.
I can save this episode with these 2 lines Fluttershy: why are we here again? Rainbow dash: Because the other pegasi are busy and bulk was one of the ones who wasn't compeiting in another event. Saves the episode from animated atrocity with these lines
I personally think this is the worst episode of the show. It's not the one I hate the most, I hate many way more (Putting Your Hoof Down, One Bad Apple, ect.) but I can't even begin to comprehend why anyone likes this episode.
Let's see: _Two ponies who can't fly are entering a national sports competition that requires flight of their own accord_ You see, just because a pegasus is good at flying, he is not forced to participate. Rainbow Dash most likely wanted to go to the Equestria Games and dragged Fluttershy with her (Just like she did in multiple other episodes) and Bulk Biceps because... he's bulky! Plus, having background ponies given major spotlight doesn't sound like a good idea, not only because they would be bland characters but also because having good athletes would make Rainbow Dash's conflict to have less impact _Absurdly redundant dialog_ Not really, this one seems like you are forcing it because there are episodes with way worse dialog and yet you seem to love them, you even gave Flight to the Finish a top score _The Wonderbolts are incredibly villainized_ Now, the problem with this gripe is that you are taking a morally incorrect action by a character (or in this case, multiple characters) and making it seem like an example of bad writing. We can't have a cast just with good guys who are good all the time, that would be boring as all hell. By that logic, episodes that actually had villains should be terrible just for that! Morally incorect actions are fine if it fits the alignment of the character and, before you say that it didn't in this case, you just have to let go of the headcanon that the Wonderbolts are this group of paragons. _Continuity is picked-and-choosed to the point where things in a certain episode are remembered, but others from the exact same episode are forgotten_ It's called priorities. As you probably saw, this episode can be seen as a followup to Wonderbolt Academy, so it took elements from that episode such as the premise and took it in consideration, but they didn't do the same about Bulk Biceps because that is just a filler joke that is in a place where there used to be absolutely nothing! Canon might be nice, but it's not *THAT* nice, it doesn't decide whether an episode is good or bad, so why giving it so much credit? _Rainbow's conflict was not fleshed out nearly enough_ It actually was. When compared to the pilot, this one actually had some sort of impact, it didn't feel forced, it had context to show up, there was tension, this was what Rainbow Dash's part of the pilot could have been IF the pilot had been good. _Rarity, Applejack and Pinkie were flanderized, pointless, or both_ Look, you keep bringing up character flanderization in certain episodes and I am starting to think that you make this up because I don't see it at all, this coming from someone who has witnessed a lot of character flanderization in other shows and even in MLP:FiM (ie. The Mysterious Mare Do Well and the majority of S2). One can easily make the claim that this character has been flanderized even without knowing what that really means, because having a character doing something silly (But in character) for the sake of having a filler joke is not flanderization, it's just comedy and there is nothing wrong with that. Besides, those characters weren't the focus of the bloody episode, so of course their personalities had to be reduced in this particular episode so that we could pay attention to the characters that actually matter! _It's a rehash of many previous episodes_ You know, there is a saying, "It's not about who does it first, but about who does it better" Honestly, I'm glad it took the conflict used in the pilot because the pilot fucking sucked, yet that specific conflict had a lot of (wasted) potential! What this episode did was taking that potential from the pilot and adding it the quality of Wonderbolt Academy, in which the outcome was something better than both
ohhh YES! I'm totaly commenting here just so can use this later! :D then again in his update "i'm doing this for myself not for the viewers" Kinda makes more sense that he doesn't care at all if he's one of the most disliked Reviewers, hence nearly 100 Dislikes :s If anything I wish people would take longer to do their vids and make it with a logical, thinking, calm, not hating on, mindset. Other reviwers, including this post above , has already proven so many of MME's Points wrong.
I would actually add a minor nitpick, but I otherwise agree. Bulk Biceps sudden inability to fly well is a dumb, dumb thing. He got accepted into the Wonderbolt Academy, and was shown flying with no issue whatsoever in that episode.
While I have a less harsh opinion of the episode than you do, but this review gave me the impression that it works like a stress ball. Blasting to pieces a bad episode actually relieves some stress and leaves relaxed feelings afterwards. At least that's how I felt watching this review XD.
I'm tired of telling people this but: YOU CANNOT FLANDERIZE A CHARACTER IN ONE EPISODE! Flanderization is the amplification of minor traits over a long period of time. Not only that, the traits we see of Pinkie and Rarity are central concepts of their characters. AJ's behavior in this episode is at least something LIKE flanderization. One out of three is pretty bad. The term you're looking for is "simplification". Sure, it doesn't sound as fancy, but it's accurate to what's in the episode. That is why I thumbs downed your video. Not because I happen to like this episode, but that a lot of your criticism (whether it's right or wrong) was based on misunderstanding the definition of a word. Remind you of anyone?
you do realize there are more events than one.... right? So their town can still qualify in other events, that's why they made that choppy dialogue with thunderlane..... cuz theres more than one event in the equestria games..? which means ponyville can have a chance at being in the games in other events... not that hard to understand.
Umm...What Enter? First of all if Fluttershy had no character growth from Hurricane Fluttershy people would probably be complaining about that too. Fluttershy did show character growth in this episode, isn't that one of the main reasons most of us watch this show to begin with? To see the characters grow and not remain static? Also I really don't think the other characters were "shoe horned" in as you put it. They did show that they had a reason to be there. Not your best review Mr. Enter I'm sorry.
Agree with this opinion regarding Fluttershy, but one good point doesn't justify a lot of others that are just really bad. Snowflake who can barely fly, Wonderbolts as evil brats and all the other reasons. Personally I was happy with Derpy, that scene has steal a 'HIIIIIIIIIIIIH' from me xD, but this episode was too bad. Ofc is just an opinion ( Sry for my bad Eng )
Maybe, Ayu; but do you truly think that someone who was been scared of performing in front of crowds for her whole life would, after standing up to her fears once, be cheerfully willing to go the Olympics and compete? I've been scared of going on climbing walls since I was small, but I recently tried it and got over it. Do you think I want to go off and climb Mount Everest? No! I may be better with climbing, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to be doing something that I used to be afraid of unnecessarily (or especially cheerfully)! Besides, it usually takes more than just one time of facing your fears to get over them; it can take years depending on the person and how deeply-rooted the fear is.
***** Considering that she spent most of 'Hurricane Fluttershy' terrified of flying in front of others (who, note, mostly consisted of her friends and fellow towns-ponies), even if she was still terrified off screen, I really don't think Fluttershy would be the type to be cheerful in the midst of what would be (to her) a terrifying situation, especially considering that ponies from all over Equestria will be watching her (and maybe all of Equestria if the staff decides to write in, I don't know, crystal-vision screens for those at home).
***** Sorry, as much as I like your videos I still have to ask, so what if snowflake not being able to fly is comedy, he still flu well in Hurricane Fluttershy, Wonderbolts Academy, and later in Equestria Games and Twilight's Kingdom, so tell me how is he not be able to fly?
Goremize This........ Mr Enter reviews each episode for the story, writing, humor, and overall entertainment. If something is wrong in those departments then he explains why. If you don't like people who review how these things contribute to how good the episode is then don't watch it. Also, every point volleyed at the viewers here is logical. At no point is there any reason he made that differed from what actually happened. And any point that was, was intended for humor in his reviews (which he included so watching his video's can be funny). If you don't like his opinion, don't listen to it.
Goremize MrEnter DID review the episode for what it was. And he determined that it was crap. And what lies did he make in his review? All I heard was logic.
If you don't watch the show to analyse it, why are you watching an analysis review of the episode? Analysis analyse the themes and mechanics of the show. Reviews evaluate how well they work. If you don't want to think critically about something, why do you come to videos that do think critically about it and complain?
1:56, I think that they assumed that out of the several sports the town would qualify in at least one. Hell, maybe it is a rule that each town must get into at least one event.
0 Stars?...really Mr.E? Wow, this is the ONLY review that I can disagree with you on. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging on you for your opinion; but 0 stars? This episode isn't even cringe worthy like PYHD to begin with. Yeah, Sorry Mr.E; but unfortunately I can't go with you on this one =/
BlackWidowSoldier099 And in mine and Mr Enter's opinion, this episode failed on almost every front. And in Mr Enter's case, he defended his opinion. It's fine if you don't agree with his opinions and find enjoyment in this episode.
Goremize So your saying now that he doesn't deserve many because of one of his opinions on ONE episode of show? Really? Thats like saying MLP is bad because one episode of it was terrible. Or like saying cartoons in general are bad because you watched one bad cartoon.
Dude, just met your channel, sorry but why the fuck are you so hard on this? Calm down about. Even the good stuff you don't show light on, but look on how its bad.
He did show on what good he THOUGHT it was. Derpy was there. These are his opinions, and he's entitled to them. I really like Rainbow Falls, but I can't call him out on this because he's just expressing his opinion. And this is nowhere near how hard he was on Putting Your Hoof Down. Go watch that review.
***** The developments on Bats were too out of the left field for me. This one, on the other hand, was enough for me to turn down my brain and just enjoy the ride. The major problem with this episode, methinks, is that with some minor tinkering it could have been great, as in, there's a better episode trying to come out of it and is hard for people to ignore the wasted potential.
Why are they there? Who else would want to go up against the Wonderbolts? Only Rainbow Dash and the couple of fliers. Fluttershy is scared about Pinkie yelling suddenly in her face. BB couldn't fly, and the only current backing is fan-made (steroids). Rainbow Dash is working as a team, not alone. She has grown as a character. The rest of the Mane 6 are there for support & possibly to compete for other events. Of course, we don't know just how many events that there are, FS & BB could've been the only other pegusi who wanted to try going up against the Wonderbolts. Soarin could've been injured FOREVER from sporting, he might not have been able to be a Wonderbolt again, either. RD had to deal with loyalty: choosing between helping her friends or helping the Wonderbolts. Whomsoever she doesn't help is screwed. The pressure gets to her and she snaps. Do note that the writers like to write to the Bronies, that's why they added Derpy, but do note that this means that Derpy is a worse flier than Bulk Biceps. Also, do note that in regular sport training, some athletes have had their lives ruined by a single injury, even if their healed. Also, it is shown on multiple occasions that Rainbow thought that her team was bad, and she didn't want the Wonderbolts to lose out on the chance to even try. 12:00 Just how did it have ALL of the references in the background? It had a couple, at most, but not even nearly half of them. Maybe next time try going into a review without wanting to hate it, okay?
Here's my biggest problem with the episode, which is NEVER addressed, both in the episode itself, and in the review you did: RD and Soarin are in the hospital, with FAKE injuries...HELLO?!! What hospital would allow that waste of space and resources?! I know EMTs HAVE to go to any calls they get, even bullshit ones. One of my friends is an EMT, I get the gist of it. But HOSPITALS do not accommodate for fake injuries. They try to get people out as soon as they can(obviously, without risking their patients' health) for space and resource concerns. One look at those two, and they'd be out of the place, possibly in cuffs.
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious when his voice syncs up with the characters' mouth movements
Their mouths are easy to sync with. You can see this in Friendship is Witchcraft! They do it so well!
Pillowcase Corner
Ultra Fast Pony is obviously the *best* when it comes to Lip Syncing!
"Unless Fluttershy has been getting freaky with Discord" and, there the shippers go.
I'm still trying to figure out why he said it. I mean, I'm trying to figure out if there is a pun or something. I don't get it. Aside form putting a picture I don't want in my head in my head, why was it done?
SuperSwordman1 he basically meant that realistically, fluttershy would only be competing if she did something that would give her an unnatural boost to her physical capabilities such as messing around with discord.
This episode is not only my least favorite, but this episode confirmed my absolute hatred for Spitfire. I seriously despise her because I've seen this type of behavior in real professional athletes she demonstrated in this episode. I get it, Rainbow is probably a better flyer than Soarin, but how Spitfire treated her teammate is disgusting to me.
I've always believed the saying, "Win as a team, lose as a team." Her attitude kills the episode for me, though it wasn't really alive to begin with.
Scratch that, this is my most hated episode.
This ^ This, so much.
Racin' Mason YES!! I USED TO BE A SPITFIRE FAN BEFORE I SAW THIS EPISODE! I highly disliked how disloyal she was to Soarin, ESPECIALLY since he suffered from that injury! The continuity in the show makes things worse for her this episode because a previous episode The Wonderbolts Academy, Spitfire learned that you need to push yourself in the right direction! Not being reckless! You'd think she'd more considerate here.
AkaTheSnake The part where Spitfire pissed me off the most was when Soarin revealed to Rainbow that nopony had visited him since his hospitalization. If MY teammate were injured, I would make damn sure I'd have time to practice and time to spend with my friend.
I actually have an idea in my head (that sadly was made mostly unusable by "Parental Glidance") that Spitfire when trying to get into the Wonderbolts she was pretty dirty. Like Lightning Dust, only worse. Less subtly.
And in case anyone wants to fight me on this, notice she only ever pulls back and does the right thing when she's directly confronted with being wrong.
Let's just pretend this episode never existed and that daring Don't was Rainbow Dash's key episode. I felt that episode dealt with loyalty better than this atrocity.
This episode had a lot of pandering in it. Too many background characters. Derpy overload. It's almost like they just made lots of Derpy appearances just to distract fans from the rest of the episode. And you're really not missing much if you miss the rest of it anyway.
+Space Woona Honestly, Season 5 got so bad with the pandering and the weaker episodes that I just had to stop for good.
I really hate it when they wave this stuff in front of bronies's faces just so they can ignore the sloppy writing choices...
Bread and circuses, people. Bread and circuses.
@@Woodenfan what are you talking about? Season 5 is the best! It's good episodes are really great, and it has the least amount of bad episodes.
People bitching about other people "not respecting" his opinion, completely ignoring the fact that people actually have the power to disagree with him.
The current score says it all,majority of people agree with him,and so do I.I felt dirty and manipulated when I watched this episode with Derpy and all,and story is just plain stupid.
Regardless,even If I don't agree with him,it doesn't matter, I mean I like Look before You Sleep,for SOME reason,but I'm ok with him tearing that ep apart.
Goremize
Like I said,I didn't liked this episode when it came out,so his review didn't change my mind.Also:
"The current score does say it all The fact that he has so many dislikes against his like means most DO NOT agree, as well as the fact he has so few subs, Think about that
other reviewers Get 0dislikes and 100's likes,"
Bullshit,score says 290 vs 70 thats less then 1\4
Also,Why? Why he must like every single episode in order MME get million subs?
That's not goal of MME.Purpose of MME videos is to say his own opinions,point out flaws that some other reviewers don't point out and he has courage to do so.He swears,he attacks episode that he thinks are really bad because they deserve this treatment.Character bending,poor writing,pathetic mean spirited humor is not something we want on MLP show,MME points these flaws out and teaches us that poorly written fanfics does not deserve place in show of this caliber.
He also praises instances of good episodes as well,pointing out good thinks giving them medals,and his live scoring system does show whats wrong with episode on fly.(score is shown to fluctuate during the review ,which I like,it feels natural,its like watching an episode with him in same room and debating while we are watching,clever)
And also:
Does every single fucking episode HAS to be liked?
Don't you dare force me to like Boast Busters,Putting your Hoof Down or Feeling pinkie keen.I hate those with burning passion.Why? Because I think they are bad.Every fucking one has their own opinion.If you like every episode,fine,but I have my own points of view,and so does MME.
Djekic Branislav
Did you just reply to yourself 11 hours later?
SM853
erm...no...I replied to Goremize.
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Goremize
Mr Enter never thinks differently of anyone who likes an episode he hates. He just expresses why the episode was bad in his mind.
Also, a lot of people like me and Djekic didn't like the episode either before he reviewed it.
I mean personally, other than Derpy coming back, nothing in this episode made me smile, or think that they had done anything clever or smart like they did previously. But hey, all show's have those few episodes that can't be as well made as the others..
This is now one of my favorite reviews of yours, including Spongebob, You're Fired and Chicken Little. You stated every last thing I thought was wrong in this episode and more. Good show old boy. Good show. Let's hope your fans don't go all Power Ponies Review on you this time.
No, no. I'm going even worse on him!
@@RossPitSharkHunter
Why?
@@twisted_jinx1603 That was a while ago, fuck if I know now.
@@RossPitSharkHunter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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10:34 Whoa. You had a lot of good points in this review, but that was the most surprising one. I think the writers weakest point is creating new villains, but making pre-existing characters (that Rainbow Dash still looks up to) into jerks was also a terrible idea.
Ponyvillie would not be out of the games entirely if the relay team had failed to qualify, they'd only be out of that event.
There's still an off chance that Ponyville wouldn't qualify for any events.
Actually, Dash said that they wanted Ponyville to qualify to "make it to the games", implying that if they don't win, Ponyville would have no longer had the chance to go to the games. That would mean if they didn't become one of the 4 or 5 teams to reach the goal, the CMC wouldn't be able to carry the Ponyville flag, making the episode pointless. Why they would not let Ponyville be unable to make it to the games because they disqualified in one event is FAR beyond me.
BucBrony does have a point.
***** I think she means Ponyville making it to the games in Aerial Relay, or maaaaaybe that the event's the first one to do qualifications and if they qualify, Ponyville's in the games. It doens't make much sense to have a mandatory event, especially one that involves flying since that would eliminate the Crystal Empire, Appleoosa, and any other community with a negligible winged population from entering.
nyniuni
Good point, but from what I've gathered, it seemed like by the games she meant the ACTUAL Equestria Games themselves, which is stupid as hell. Why would you make one event mandatory for your town, and if they don't win, you're instantly banned from the games? The episode didn't make it clear enough, which made it seem like she legit meant the Equestria Games.
D--> Bulk Biceps?
D--> A...muscular...horse?
D--> Towel
D--> Towel
D--> Somebody hand me a blasted towel!
...This episode still looked pretty awful.
So many people at Equestria Daily and elsewhere list "Rainbow Falls" as their favourite episode of Season 4 - or at least Top 5. I don't understand why. MrEnter & VoiceOfReason are right; this episode is *_abysmal_*. It may actually be worse than "Spike at Your Service" and "Mysterious Mare-Do-Well". Corey really screwed up.
In addition to the problems already mentioned, Twilight comes off as preachier than she needs to be, and I think that's due to the fact that the reasons she gives Rainbow Dash for not switching teams are the _wrong reasons_ (again, as mentioned). Don't get me wrong, I love that Derpy showed up. In fact, it was the highlight of the episode. BUT, the fact that Derpy's appearance is the best thing about RF is just further proof of how much it sucks.
The worst part about it is this episode _could_ have been great... in the hands of a more competent writer (and maybe script editor). Renzetti never would've let this slide.
Rainbow Dash episodes, in my opinion, are the most schizophrenic quality-wise, at least post-S1. MTBPW was enjoyable but MMDW - _the very next episode_ - was terrible. Read It And Weep was good again and Wonderbolt Academy was fine too. Then S4 completely screwed the pooch with Daring Don't (fun but shitty premise) and this trainwreck. And we still have one or two more Rainbow Dash episodes left in the season. Ugh.
OH that’s a GOOD WORD SCHRIZFRENIA excuse my spelling sometimes it Sucks but that’s human. :)
You know, i was thinking of writing a fan...thing for Soarin based of this episode.
I call it "Soarin Away"
While in the hospital, Soarin sees the other wonderbolts flying around with Rainbow Dash through a window. At first he thought they were too busy to visit him, but now he realizes he's being replaced. Heartbroken and deciding his wing had healed enough, he runs away that night. (The wing was almost fully healed by this time)
The next day, Spitfire and Fleetfoot learn of Soarin's disappearance. Spitfire is seemingly still potrayed the way she was in this episode, and shrugs it off confident he'll come back, stating that "Besides, we've already got a replacement flyer." But throughout the course of the day and training, she keeps the news in her mind, seemingly getting more and more concerned yet hiding it from Rainbow and Fleetfoot. After he doesn't return after the day ends, Spitfire finally snaps out of her character from before and becomes worried sick about Soarin, recalling the times they had together and then her painful disloyalty to Soarin. (When she remembers this, tears flood her eyes) She and the other Wonderbolts fly into the dark night to look for him.
Meanwhile, we see a lonely, tired, and sad Soarin wander along a railroad track. He comes across a poster for a traveling show of some sort and decides to sign up for shelter. A man who is part of the show's staff sees that Soarin is a pegasus and, quite amused, has the ringmaster of the show agree to sign him up. The men lock Soarin in a cage and their train hauls him away to their next stop. Happy to find a new home and wishing Ponyville good luck with the games underneath his breath, he falls asleep in a corner of his cage.
The next morning, we see nearly everypony in Ponyville and Cloudsdale frantically looking for Soarin, a few of which are even holding apple pies. Spitfire has them look absolutely everywhere in the area with no luck. A pegasus tells her they found him and excites a glimmer of hope in her eyes, the pony he found is revealed-but sadly, it is only a scallion saleperson mare that only looks a little like Soarin. (Apparently Soarin's physical information had gotten messed up between ponies) Finally when a crying Spitfire walks onto the railroad tracks and runs on them in desperation to find her friend, with Fleetfoot and the WonderBolts in hot pursuit, her tail brushes by a pole which has the same poster for the show Soarin joined. Reading the locations, she starts to fly above the tracks along with the WonderBolts.
Soarin wakes up to heavy vibration as the train stops at their destination. He is excited to be performing for the first time, and flies right inside as he is introduced. Then we see the show's crew abuse Soarin, such as squirting cream on his wings and making him carry clowns on his back, which nearly breaks his spine. When he sees one of the clowns offer him apple pie, he happily flies down to eat his favorite food, only to have the clown smash it on his head as the crowd laughs. He starts to feel a little homesick but then remembers the WonderBolt's disregard for him and with a little anger, he walks over to the ringmaster, who holds him up as the crowd cheers his name over and over again, making him feel even happier. We transition to that night, where Soarin is locked back into his cage. The ringmaster walks over to him, saying how proud he is of the pegasus until he sees his WonderBolt ID. Soarin agrees to have the show staff remove the ID and throw it away. Then the train starts up and they get moving again.
Soarin wakes up that morning only to find the train is on a dangerous railway. He gets scared, worried they'll fall over. Turns out he's not the only one as animals all over the train are panicked by the height. When an elephant leans on a side of its cage, the cage falls over and pulls the train with it! Soarin luckily springs from his cage and attempts to push the train back on the tracks. He is just barely successful until he sees the ringmaster falling off the edge, and after he saves the train he dives down and saves the man from plummeting to his death. The rest of the crew praises Soarin, which makes Soarin recall Rainbow Dash saving him and the look of greed Spitfire had in her eyes as she praised Rainbow. Looking at them a certain way, he is frightened to learn they have the exact same look of greed.
Spitfire and her team wake up and keep following the tracks, asking ponies along the way. One WonderBolt flies up to Spitfire holding Soarin's ID, which makes her even more scared of losing him.
That's about all i have down for this. I haven't worked out how i'm going to reunite Soarin and Spitfire or where or when they're gonna do it. I intend to altleast try to redeem Spitfire's actions here.
_Please don't hurt me..._
Maybe at some point spitfire gets the same injury soarin originally got. She loses control midair and could easily slow herself down by spreading her wings in this gliding stance or repositioning herself for a softer landing but her guilt addled mind just lets it happen.
Some begin to wonder if getting the same injury soarin had was intentional or if she’d intended something much much worse
I got a little too into this
Hmmm... Fluttershy entering for "civic duty," incompetantly created teams, and an emphasis on trying to bring back as many medals as possible. All signs point to Mayor Mare running the teams and I can't tell if this was intentional.
What drove me nuts during this episode was all the missed opportunities to bring older characters back, and it would have fit the story perfectly,
Remember Gilda and Lightning Dust?
What if they were representing Cloudsdale?
What if they challenged them on a personal level, that would lead to Rainbow Dash to push her team beyond what they could handle?
I'm convinced they really forgot about Gilda, perhaps she'll show up at the Eqestia games with the other Griffons but I'm not holding my breath any more
the only logical reason that Rainbow Dash chose Fluttershy and Bulk is that literally every other Pegasus in town was occupied. But this gets thrown out the window when they find Derpy i guess hiding in their luggage and decide to make her Rainbow's replacement. Look I know you're obligated to use Fluttershy for this episode because she's the only other mane 6 that's a pegasus other than Rainbow, but the entire scenario is insane to say the least.
This is the worst episode for me. At the end this was the only one in the entire series that left me sighing heavily in disapointment.
my worst episode personally as well. This is the only one that took me several sittings to go through. before this bad episodes made me fast forward over certain cringe worthy moments. This is the first one that made me take a break and do something else.
There are two major problems with this episode that I think you overlooked:
1) The plot is so predictable that it's insulting. It's the exact same problem I had with Games Ponies Play. However, what that episode had over this one was that GPP had memorable comedic moments.
2) Why are the Wonderbolts (except Soarin') made out to be dicks...again? What was the point of Spiitfire saving face at the end of Wonderbolt Academy if she was just going to repeat the same thing here? Why is Rainbow Dash allowing herself to forgive Spitfire twice for doing something that goes against her ideals/element? How many last minute half-hearted apologies will it take for RD to just say enough?
I wish that the writers of the Wonderbolt Academy episode had Rainbow Dash just leave the Wonderbolts dream behind, and pursue some other athletic dream(like the Equestrian Games?) Like you said, there was no point in having the Wonderbolts be in the episode(same with Bulk Biceps.) All it does is make WBA pointless. It used to be one of my favorite episodes, until Rainbow Falls made it useless to me.
To be honest, I was kind of bored with this episode until Derpy showed up to... save it? The dialogue was so atrocious that I felt like I was watching an actual children's cartoon. I never feel that way watching FIM because they're usually more clever with their scripts.
I agree. This was trash. Not even Derpy, the griffons in the background, or how gorgeous Rainbow Falls itself looks could save this episode.
It's now my 5th least favorite episode of the show.
i think the Fluttershy 180 in her personality and excitement to join may be the result of a lesson finally sticking to her. taking the hurricane fluttershy moral and having her improve from it in her confidence.
what did he say Flutters was out of char or something? she was perfectly in char she even said in the ep she hates this but will do it for RD/ponyville :) it's not like she hasn't done that before! (did not watch this review)
Bulk Biceps is just a forced comedy...not even funny.
After rewatching this episode and your review of it, it's now one of my least favorite episodes of the entire series. They made new characters for the other Mane 6 to inspire, with the exception of Discord in Twilight's Kingdom, so why couldn't they have done that here? It's like you said in the review, the writing decisions in this episode aren't just bad, they're sloppy and lazy. I still hate Mare-Do-Well and Somepony to Watch Over Me more, but this episode still sucks.
Why do I get the feeling the writers are gonna make Rainbow Dash not join the Wonderbolts because she decides that "There are better things in life" or something like that and if they do THAT then the brony fandom will freak out cause not only was this something that the fandom wanted but something Faust envisioned.
"...Getting Freaky with Discord..."
enough said
Shit this was an embarrassment to the entire show. I didn't think inconsistencies could get worse.
Oh so, Charlotte Fullerton is ahead of Corey Powell by a point. And they both made one shining gem and surrounded it with okay and bad episodes. Ouch, when season 4 bombs, it leaves no survivors.
I have to agree with MME. This was a bad episode that could have been done a lot better to the point where it could have made sense and been a great episode. Think about it, we had Games ponies play, which introduced this story arc idea and gave us something big too look forward to in season 4 since it was confirmed that they will happen, we had Flight to the finish which revealed that the opening ceremony is a big part and is just as entertaining as most Olympic ceremonies are, and this episode showed us one of the best parts of any Olympics, the try outs. But the sad horrible truth is that it failed miserably with the try outs. Now the only thing that could make up for this story arc is bringing it to a close so no more mistakes could be made.
What makes it worse is that it's also connected to the "Keys to Twilight's Kingdom" arc, so there's no way to skip this and watch Twilight's Kingdom without needing to watch this.
I can't help but wonder if Scootaloo was supposed to be on the team, but then Corey Powell remembered she couldn't fly and just gave her role to Flutttershy without changing her lines thus explaining why Fluttershy says and dose things out of character in this episode. take the stuff she said after Rainbow saved Soren, now imagine Scootaloo saying them in full fan-girl mode, started to make sense now doesn't it
That would actually make some sense plus maybe Corey Powell also remembered that Scootaloo is one of the flag carriers.
Mind=blown
I think Twilight forgot that she CAN FLY.
She could still use magic and that could be unfair for the other teams
She's also an alicorn princess who prefers to use her magic.So either a: she might have been on another team, or b: she might not be allowed to compete because she's an alicorn.
I'm not sure if princesses are allowed to compete.
The strange thing is that I watched this episode three or four different times before watching other people's reviews. And I enjoyed it every time.
Now after watching all the criticism it's getting (especially here)...I'm not sure whether or not I should reconsider my thoughts on the episode. Should I be firm in my opinion, or should I go with what's logical?
If I stick with my personal views...does that make me ignorant?
no, it makes this episode a "guilty pleasure" technical value and entertainment value are completely different.
this episode may suck from a narrative standpoint, but if you dont mind those flaws then you can still find it entertaining. and thats whats important.
Sounds like your struggling with Cognitive Dissonance (www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html) . Whichever choice feels right is what would be the best choice.
But I usually go with the logical choice, and I feel a bit smarter about the science of writing stories when I do. But hey, that's just my opinion.
yeah feel the same way on this episode I guess its the guilty pleasures episode
Always stick to what you believe in. Watch the episode with an open mind, but don't like other people change your opinions on it. I love the episode. As much as I love Mr. Enter's reviews... this one I highly disagree with. It's a good episode to me, and nobodies going to change that.
If your personal views is different from other reviewers, then stick with them because in no way does it mean that yours is worse than theirs. Heck, maybe you could have an even better view on the episode than most MLP analysts
There are so many plotholes, contradictions, contrived conveniences, stupid repetitive writing, dumb choices, mean-spirited acts & nonsensical turns this story provides.
1) Yeah, why the fuck is Bulk Biceps not able to fly well!? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever! He has 10 Wing-Power, was amongst those specifically chosen to flight into a HURRICANE, AND was chosen to be amongst the Wonderbolts. So why the hell is he so utterly NERFED here!? This is almost as bad as what they did to Twilight in Power Ponies....hell, this is WORSE then Power Ponies. Are they trying to imply the Wonderbolts take ponies who are barely able to lift themselves off the ground!? Don't you think there'd be some kind of strict rules against that at what is basically an airborne military academy?
2) Why would Fluttershy wanted to be involved in any kind of HUGE competition, even if it was for her friend's benefit? Is it because Rainbow Dash has confidence in Fluttershy now after the Hurricane incident? Maybe, but literally NOTHING was done to establish such a feeling if that's what they were going for. And last time I checked Fluttershy just BARELY managed to tip the scale in the Hurricane scenario...so maybe a better choice to represent Ponyville is necessary?
And really? She wants to compete in a loud, Superbowl style event when she thinks Pinkie's cheering is "scary and loud?" How do you think an entire STADIUM filled with HUNDREDS OF SCREAMING PONIES is going to be, Fluttershy!? That is just grossly out of character for her; it's almost as bad as Dragon Quest, where Fluttershy was afraid to go out of the house to even watch a Dragon Migration despite literally STARING ONE DOWN.
3) Why Bulk Biceps in particular? A background pony who accomplished nothing then saying "Yeaaahh!" As I mentioned before he's grossly out of character at not being able to fly here; but aren't there many, many, MANY other Pegasi in Ponyville to choose from? What about all the really fast ones who went into the Hurricane!? Granted I know Bulk as 10 Wing Power; but if we're just throwing that at the window why can't we get someone who's more capable?
4) The Wonderbolts are beyond contrived. In the First Season, they're introduced as honorable top-speed flyers. In the Second Season, they're shown to be incredibly incompetent and offered no challenge to a fully grown Spike. In the Third Season, Spitfire is willing to reward Lightning Dust for willfully endangering (and nearly killing) all of Rainbow Dash's friends just because LD "had the extra edge". What kind of twisted military ideal lets someone advance in rank while nearly killing innocent civilians?!
Now in Season 4, they want Rainbow Dash to join their team as soon as one of their friends gets hurt, not even giving said friend a chance to get back on his feet or at least even making sure he's okay.
Why does the Element of LOYALTY, OF LOYALTY I REPEAT, LOOK UP TO THESE ASSHOLES!?
5) The Element of LOYALTY (once again) is willing to fuck over he friends (and Ponyville as a whole) just to fly with her "heroes"; who are becoming worse and worse with each Season? *Facepalm*
6) If she flew with the Wonderbolts to begin with, she'd be going against her own goal; having PONYVILLE qualify, not CLOUDSDALE. Didn't she think that she'd most likely become a social pariah in Ponyville if she did what she did!? Everyone would most likely hate her for it, like they did with the CMC in the Ponyville Confidential.
7) THOSE are the reasons Twilight gives for Rainbow Dash to not join the Wonderbolts!? Really? Just for the benefit of her friends? Granted those are good reasons, but as MrE said and anyone else with HALF a brain cell could figure out; what about all the OTHER reasons!?!?!
-The Qualifying Event would've been pointless as a result; it literally would've been nothing but wasted effort on everyone's part.
-Fluttershy & Bulk Biceps (no matter how hideously OOC they may be) were doing this for HER. How betrayed would they feel if RD just said "I wanna be with the best and you guys aren't the best." Yeah, because that wouldn't demolish their sense of wort at all; even if it doesn't make sense since BB has 10 Wing-Power and got in the Wonderbolts Academy alongside Rainbow (despite the fact that they are kicking that continuity in its proverbial nutsack); along with the fact Fluttershy just barely managed to tip the scale on a hurricane, so she has little self-confidence in herself as it is.
How come Rainbow Dash never develops ANY sort of moral conscious in this sort of area? And if she does it's completely gone within the next episode!
-Scootaloo won't get to go if no other team qualifies, and it was established that RD could basically carry the whole team herself need be. If they don't qualify, Scootaloo will be crushed she can't go.
And if even by some slim chance another Ponyville Team qualifies (keep in mind they're spitting in the face of Hurricane Fluttershy with how little actual SKILLED fliers there are in Ponyville) how does she think Scootaloo will feel when she learns her idol not only stabbed her in the back, but betrayed her entire community just to be with a better team!? And worst off, Rainbow Dash KNOWS this because Scootaloo confessed to RD that she is essentially her hero. So what, does Rainbow Dash just not care about Scootaloo? Is she really THAT shallow!?
Fuck this episode; I hate to say it, this is worse then Power Ponies.
And while I'm glad Derpy is back, (THRILLED ACTUALLY) her presence alone does not save the episode from failing. It doesn't matter if you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
In short, Derpy being here is like the song "Babs Seed" in One Bad Apple.
Having one good moment in a terrible episode DOES NOT IN ANY WAY save it from failing; no matter how much others plead that it does. If an episode like One Coarse Meal had one funny moment, would that redeem the entire episode? No, because the episode is fucking terrible; and that's how it is with One Bad Apple & Rainbow Falls as well.
Oh yeah, Rainbow Falls alright.....right on it's/her face.
Flagging for narrowmindness
Goremize Let me get this straight; stating my honest opinion about an episode...is being narrow-minded? Have you ever considered that I just happen to share the same opinion as the guy who made the review?
I will not fight you on this, but stating my opinion is not being narrow-minded. Narrow-minded would be if I hated every episode of the show just for the sake of hating it and not trying to understand it's concept.
Out of this entire Season so far, I only dislike Power Ponies & Rainbow Falls...everything else was fine for me; so I'd like to think I'm being fair. The only way my comment would've been "narrow-minded" is if I said I despised the episode, didn't give any reason for as of of why, and could not list any opinions why I hated it other than the fact that I hated it. At least I gave reasons for why I dislike it, all of which are credible.
Flagging for someone for their opinion (if it's not yours and even if you don't like it) comes across as being unable to take criticism. And any and EVERY show is open to criticism, no matter how good the show is; Friendship is Magic does not escape that factor.
0:47 The really sad part is, this particular problem could've easily been fixed: instead of Fluttershy, have Derpy be the third pegasus on Rainbow Dash's team. You would still have Rainbow Dash be the only really competent flyer on her team, and thus have her tempted to switch over to the Wonderbolts team.
Yeah and too avoid name controversy have Rainbow referrer to Derpy as "D" or something
As for the Derpy thing, I made a video specifically talking about that and Bulk's inclusion: Scene Defender #5: The Bulk of the Problem
While I understand your reasons for not liking this episode, I personally think it's one of my favorites of the season so far. I just had so much fun with it that I didn't notice the character inconsistencies. I think Corey Powell writes the most unique stories for this show, and I really hope she sticks around.
I'd also like to add that I think Fluttershy wanted to compete in the competition because she learned to have confidence with herself in Hurricane Fluttershy, and because she's shown to care more for her friends than for her own needs.
And, yes, Pinkie Pie did feel shoved in, but since she's my favorite pony, I didn't mind one bit.
Entertainment is subjective, my friend. One should not lose credibility just because they have their own opinions.
I agree with you I know it wasn't a good episode but I still enjoy this one every much
***** Well, he did say that he liked it despite the character problems. I mean, people liked episodes like 'Power Ponies', even though, in this case, it was rather poorly executed. If you recognize that something has problems, that doesn't necessarily mean that you need to stop enjoying it; I don't think the guys who do the My Little Bloopers videos have stopped liking the show because of the animation errors (though, yes, for many people, problems with things like story and character do diminish their enthusiasm for a show or episode, and that's understandable).
3:57 & 5:39 The best parts of the review!
9:15-9:18
That was my face reaction after Derpy came walking in. It's nice to see her back but to the bronys that keep saying that Derpy saved the episode sorry but you're wrong.
I'm gonna say it.....
The griffions were the best part of the episode.
And there were in the background, where Derpy and "Bulk Biceps" should have stayed.
Goremize because screw difference of opinion! conform to what is "apparently" the right opinion!
Goremize I wouldn't care if they didn't fuck up the episode with Bulk. I'm indifferent about Derpy though :P
What's the 3rd overarching plot of the season?
Twilight being a Princess.
Here's another pony who could have been a better choice for the team: Twilight. Sure she's not all that athletic, but she's still a better choice then a pony who can barely stay airborne and a pony with stage fright so crippling she SHOULD HAVE coked and froze up at the qualifying rounds alone, let alone the competition. They had such a habit of shoehorning in Twilight and they actually passed up a chance to put her in where it would have made some fucking sense. Is it because she's a Princess? That doesn't seem to make sense as it wouldn't give her any advantage in a competitive race.
I was thinking exactly that when I watched this episode.
Then again, they did prove in a later episode that she couldn't compete because she's royalty, so at least they cleared up that plothole. Still got about 100 more in this episode.
But being a princess wouldn't make her a better flyer. In fact, she's probably not that fast.
+Lunara Hunter
Twilight's a princess so she can't compete.
One thing that I would have liked to see in season 4 is a competition with unicorns and that Twilight is sad that she isn't allowed to participate with that.
marinus18 Why? Being a princess doesn't make her a better flier, and the spell used at the games could have easily prevented possible cheating by magic.
I have a very simple explanation for why the Ponyville ponies aren't on the relay team. They aren't athletes, and they have more important stuff to do.
I think you did an amazing job explaining why you hated this without going overboard and overreacting, like you did in Putting Your Hoof Down.
"I feel that Corey Powell was actively trying to insult my intelligence."
"Blah Blah Blah target audience."
This is something that needs to be addressed. She wasn't trying to insult YOUR intelligence, or any others. The episodes writing was bad, fine. But this sort of bullshit entitlement is something I expect from Tom Oliver, not from you. You're free to call out the episode's writing. It was sub par, you aren't wrong there. You aren't wrong with a lot of your other complaints. But nobody is out to get you. You, me, and all the other bronies aren't important enough. This is the the type of cringeworthy attitude that's seeped into the community for a while now. Comparing this to a fanficiton, then taking it personally destroys your credibility as a reviewer. C'mon, Enter. You're better than this. Just because an episode is bad doesn't mean your reviews should mirror them and also be sub standard.
Who's Tom Oliver? ( Btw, You're right )
Bronycurious
Matthew Clark aaaaahn, thx
I couldn't have put it better myself
I'm pretty sure he meant "the community" when he said that.
Okay, I've stopped 1:29 in to the video and I'm going to say something to you Mr. Enter because you liked Hurrican Fluttershy as much as I did. Here's what I'm going to say, and I'm not saying it to force you to like this episode, but I want to explain something.
Hurrican Fluttershy was two seasons ago. It's very easy for someone to change over an amount of time. Fluttershy to me is that kind of person who if given the chance tries her hardest to 'help her friends' she stood up to a Dragon, a Cockatrice, people who pushed her around, her friends at the end of bats. That's because she represents Kindness. I know that in Dragon Quest, it showed Fluttershy being frightened of Dragons again. But that just showed that when she was assertive she can get over her fears.
HOWEVER, when someone needs her to do something, like let's say Rainbow Dash coming up to her and asking to fly in the olympics. I CAN SEE HER DOING IT! Because she can get over her fears! IT'S CALLED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
Okay... I'm going to resume the video...
As a fairly shy person (not even as shy as Fluttershy), even when I have to speak for my friends, I can get pretty nervous speaking in front of people no less competing in something. It had to be one heck of a development. And speaking in public (again, not even mentioning competing in a large competition) is a pretty common fear even if I am determined.
ChillerDuu I was a shy person at one time to... but when it comes to my friends I would do anything for them. Not to mention it was Rainbow Dash who helped her get past her fears. I'm not saying that Fluttershy isn't shy, I'm saying that ANYONE can get over their fears, even if it's something they're weak at. It's a stupid plot and I agree that Fluttershy shouldn't have been there. However, I will not say that Fluttershy can't do something she sets her mind to. We've already seen that she can.
TotalFreakZoid Yeah, it's just me. I guess I don't share such a quality.
There was no indication that she got over her fears therefore she is out of character from the shy timid one we know.
Lone Pianoist I don't recall Fluttershy complaining when she got roped into cheerleading for the fate of the games for a one chance impression with the Games Inspector herself, so she's gotten at least partially over her fear of performance.
10:16 - I'm sorry, but you had me at "getting freaky with Discord". ^^ ~
EVEN AS A RD fan this Episode was just Ridiculous also DISABILITY FRAUD as a message/not morally right at all so yeah NO!!! 🤨
4:06 I think it's an official rule that every member of the Mane Six must appear in each episode centered primarily around Rainbow Dash.
It's been a little over 6 months since I gave my original spiel on "Rainbow Falls", written while S4 was still airing. In that time, has my opinion shifted? If so, how? If not, why? Well...
*_"Rainbow Falls" is probably my least-favourite episode of the entire series._* Seriously.
I don't think there's a single episode of MLP I hate more. Even episodes I generally dislike like "It's About Time" or "Games Ponies Play" have at least _one_ redeeming quality to them. "Rainbow Falls" has _nothing_, apart from Derpy returning, but that's not enough to save it.
This episode is tied with "Boast Busters" as my worst episode. I honestly can't decide which is worse.
rushfan2596 "Boast Busters" annoys me due to all the stupid in it, but it gave us Trixie, who I love. So... to me, RF is worse.
Here here. This is probably the only episode where it took me more than one sitting to get through, and is the only one I actually hate. Also, am I the only one who somewhat feels it had a bit of creator backlash as well, looking at both Equestria Games and Twilight's Kingdom?
Saltyoven Dave Polsky wrote both "Games Ponies Play" (which set up the Equestria Games) and "Equestria Games", that arc's start & end. Corey Powell massively screwed up his narrative with RF, even if she didn't mean to. So I wouldn't be shocked if there was.
I absolutely despise this episode. R.D. being my favorite pony made this episode excruciatingly painful.
Actually MrEnter, I mentioned this on another video, but to answer your question about Derpy being back "Why now? Why here?" its because the show staff has stated they've been keeping Derpy out of Season 4 up until now on purpose because they wanted her return appearance here to be a surprise.
I honestly don't understand the complaints about Fluttershy wanting to represent her town. I consider it a sign that she actually learned her lesson from Hurricane Fluttershy; people are always complaining about continuity with her as far as her learning her lessons from previous episodes, and then they start flipping out when she shows some goddamn confidence for once. People just confuse me...
Also, at 4:43 ... Scoots can't get off the ground on her own. At all. How the HELL is she a better flyer than fucking Bulk Biceps, who, at the very least, is able to get off the ground. You're really frustrating me today, man. My God...
I hate when people say it's out of character. The ponies might not change but little things like traits can waver; and when a shy pony shows some more confidence you have to think more about "I wonder how this could be?" rather than "That doesn't make sense."
Anna Rays That is a very valid point. Writing a shy character only as an obnoxious sociopath wouldn't be entertaining at all. HOWEVER, putting a character into a setting just for him to utterly fail at it for 22 minutes doesn't really add to the character, nor the entertainment. I believe his point is, that there is no reason for Fluttershy to be in this setting and since she isn't the focus of the episode, it could have been any other non-important character. I personally found it quite painful to watch them trying so hard, when I know that there are a lot of other ponies better suited for the job.
🌈The only thing I love about this episode was the location that’s literally it The rainbows were so vibrant🌈
This episode is a big convoluted mess
I think the time limit is the minimum time for a guaranteed qualification. It's like a track meet to qualify for the state tournament. They only take the top, let's call it 4, in an event if not enough people meet that limit. I'm assuming that Ponyville was competing after 4 teams had already broken that qualifying time. This would explain the need for a time limit, and it would also explain why 5 teams actually ended up qualifying. Unfortunately, that's pretty much all I can defend in this episode, it was just that bad.
Wow, everyone is hating on this episode. I understand why and to be honest I don't hate the episode but just wouldn't watch it as much. I've been watching rarity takes manehatten more for some reason.
I'm not hating, in fact I gave this episode 5 stars and a gold in my review.
***** I gave it a 9/10 on mine and called it my favourite of S4
Cool.
Apparently the black pegasus at 3:08 has removable wings.
This episode is kind of a guilty pleasure for me
Nice title card there, Enter. And also, thank you! Now I know I'm not alone in not liking this episode.
I respect Mr. Enter's opinons of course, but I'll (mildly) disagree here. "Rainbow falls" wasn't the best episode, but it wasn't the worst, either.
(And BTW, neither were "Putting Your Hoof Down" or especially "Dragon Quest." But anyway...)
1. I don't mind Bulk Biceps being retconned into a bad flier. They already did that with Twilight and FS's flying skill is all over the map depending on the script. I actually think that if they're going to make him a recurring character, it will make him much more interesting (did he bulk up to compensate for his puny wings? Is he channeling a lot of hurt because of his inability like Fluttershy and Scootaloo?) So i didn't consider that a big deal, as it just seemed like someone looked at Bulk as an actual character for the first time instead of a running gag.and worked out something interesting the writers might be able to do with him.
2. The Wonderbolts were assholes this episode. So what? Every main and major secondary character have had their turn at being assholes too..Its just their turn this time. And really, people in real life have bouts of priggishness too no matter how nice they might otherwise be, so I don't mind just chalking it up to them just having a lapse. As least they didn't cause a riot like Twilight.
3. Completely agree about RD's non-reasons for being on the relay team being nothing but a contrivance, the bad dialog, and the redundancy of half the main six. Like I said it wasn't the best episode.
4. I'll reserve judgement for why FS is participating. I'm very sure the Equestria Games is going to be a major two-partner or such, and they might go further into why she is participating there. It might be she honestly is trying to break out of her shell and build her self-confidence and the lessons form past episodes are sticking. But we'll see.
Thank you. Thank you.
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I don't see the wonderbolts as friends, I see them as a sports team, or organisation, and a competitive one at that. So if Spitfire thinks that one of hear team members aren't going to be as his 100%, she would switch out him to someone that she believes would increase their chances to win/qualify. That makes sense to me, what doesn't makes sense is why she tries to replace him with rainbow dash, and not another wonderbolt.
Yup that's the point. It doesn't make any sense for her to be a big liar and basically worst pony. They just needed a villain I guess.
The Duke of Flame
As I've said long ago, I noticed the trend for Keys happening whenever one of the mane 6 teaches another their element. So with that line of logic in mind, Daring Don't would have been a MUCH better key episode. Think about it, besides the moral of dash placing Daring so high on a pedestal, she doesn't see her own worth, Daring Do learned sometimes it is helpful to be able to count on others
And it seems I'm not the only one. Nickyv recently released a video entitled "Could Daring Don't have been Rainbow's Key episode?" Which goes over a correlation between key episodes happening once every 4 episodes with the sole exception of the finale, and Rainbow Falls, and talks about maybe there was a swap with the thing.
So when season 4 is good, it's really good and when season 4 bombs, it fucking BOMBS.
Does anybody notice the stallion saying "rules are rules" as he turns around...
It looks like they only gave him one wing because there sure isn't a wing on the side we're shown when he turns to walk. X'D
Oh and pinkie and applejack weren't really flanderized, no offense but after being a long time watcher, I think your sometimes a little to quick to use this term, though I see how you would think its applicable here
the capture card or whatever for the video is really good your art work is getting better
Thank you MrEnter! Finally, someone else sees how bad this episode is!
Digibrony: "I give this episode a 6/10" WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
Voice Of Reason hates it. Actually I'm surprised I don't see more people liking it.
Ross Pit: shark hunter Oh yeah I forgot about him actually. It seems there is actually a lot of people that like the episode (just look at the dislikes on this video and Voice Of Reason's). I just can't understand why anybody would like, in my opinion, the worst written episode of the show. When BronyCurious and Digibrony seemed to at least "like it" I wanted to tear my hair out.
rasengdori13 I fault you for that. I really do, but whatever.
Ross Pit: shark hunter Fault me for what?
rasengdori13 Wanting to pull yer hair out because of Digibrony and Bronycurious's review.
Rainbow Falls
to the bottom of most character list
I can't agree more with this review. This episode raises more questions than any other episode from the show so far. In fact, I consider this to be the worst Rainbow Dash episode ever made. Mare-Do-Well had bad execution, whereas Rainbow Falls suffers from everything. There are episodes like Putting Your Hoof Down, Boast Busters, Spike At Your Service, and a few others that are blunders, and Rainbow Falls fits that group. The season is halfway over at this point, and the only other episodes that I've failed so far are Daring Don't and Power Ponies. I can safely say that Rainbow Falls is the worst S4 episode so far. Corey Powell, what happened to you? You wrote Sleepless in Ponyville, an episode that made me actually like Scootaloo. Were you under pressure? Did someone force you to write their fan fiction? If so, this is a sorry excuse for an episode. It may be the worst episode in the show for me. The fact that this is canon hurts me. Whereas Rarity and Pinkie had fantastic episodes about their keys, Rainbow's was horrible. I seriously hope Fluttershy's key episode is good, because so far, it's like the Micro-Series... *shudders*
Overall, fuck Rainbow Falls. It's one of the worst episodes this show's ever made, and considering the fact that there are only 6 truly bad episodes of this show: Putting Your Hoof Down, Boast Busters, Spike At Your Service, The Show Stoppers, Mare-Do-Well, and this. Seriously, that Fluttershy key episode better be good.
Amen to that MegaMan .EXE (PS the Fluttershy key episode sadly isn't Filli Vanneli)
pcuspard That'll have to be the Breezies episode. I really hope that the episode takes place the same time Three's a Crowd does, since there was a mention of Breezies. Also, it'll have an excuse for Pinkie's behavior in Filli Vanneli. That really put me into a bad mood, because I love Pinkie, as she's my favorite of the Mane 6, but her actions... why?
Yeah, I truly can't wait for the Applejack key episode their always seems to be at the very least a foil in every key episode: Rarity:Suri Rainbow: Spitfire Pinkie: Cheese Sandwich Twilight: CMC Fluttershy: Breezies Applejack: ?
pcuspard Did Twilight Time's synopsis say that she's getting her key, or is the name a clue? I figured since Twilight's the main character, she'll get her key last. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I hope we have most of the key episodes be good, because Rainbow's already failed.
It's true Rainbow Falls failed hard... but Rarity Takes Manhattan was good, Pinkie Pride was good Let's hope Twilight Time and It ain't Easy with the Breezies are good and all the Applejack episodes this season were fantastic! But yeah Twilight Time's synopsis was that it would be the fourth key (or fifth depending on if Breezies takes place at the same time as Three's a Crowd)
Me again. I know that Putting your hoof down and rainbow falls are bad, but I also think that other awful episodes like One bad apple and Keep clam and flutter on should have got Zeros(0) too.
Damn... I mean, I know you stated your opinions and reasons and all but... geeze, I really can't find myself agreeing with you here. The fact that you gave it a 0 out of 5 is really harsh... But I guess there's nothing I can do to argue with you, but this is once more one of those times where I just can't see it through your eyes. Perhaps maybe I liked this episode because I'm nowhere near as passionate of a critic or analyst as you are, so it's easier for me to enjoy even lesser episodes of shows.
No, you liked it because you have a different view on it, doesn't mean it's better or worse, just that you have to defend it
I enjoy show I know are bad. I find modern Spongebob (that's right!) hilarious on a darker level. A good rule of thumb, though, is to see if you can prove beyond enjoyment that a show is good. (It's good because characterization, story, etc.)
Can you poke wholes in the review? If so, this episode may be better than he thinks.
i can think of one thing that backs up that big muscle horse thing not being able to have his wings carry him. his wings are too tiny to carry a big thing like him
I honestly think Twilight should've been the 3rd flyer, not only would she use her wings for once but it'll fit a lot better and not destoy past stuff like Bulk did.
Except that Twilight is not yet comfortable enough with her wings and status to volunteer to flaunt them in front of the entire kingdom.
Well even so she has yet to use them outside the opener, and can you honestly say using Bulk was a better idea? Twilight had a role/purposse in this episode unlike most of the others and making her the 3rd flyer would make even more sense as to why she's there. Also, how can she honestly be worse then Fluttershy in terms of flying in front of a crowd?
If their not gonna use her wings TAKE THEM AWAY!
I don't think she should fly because she is an alicorn/ princess and would not be allowed to compete
firestorm
Then why are the wonderbolts allowed to compete :P
-_- good point I forgot about that
So, this episode is basically confusing because the plot goes in several directions.
0:54 Fluttershy's and Bulk Biceps are in there because signed in to volunteer to be in the Equestria Games. Fluttershy, because she knew her fear would drift away when she is seen at a higher distance. This episode confirmed that Fluttershy has distant stage fright. Was it ever established she mentioned a distance in any other episode where she had to perform? Bulk Biceps, I'll get to him later. But he figured he'd good when he's got important tasks to accomplish. Again, was it ever established he WASN'T bad flying? And in fact, I'd add a point here.
2:11 Pinkie, didn't really do any harm in my opinion. She's pretty much moral support.
2:35 It's possible. Just look at Bulk Biceps in Wonderbolt Academy. He was actually trying to fly when all the others had no effort taken out to fly. This episode got Bulk Biceps, at one point, to be my favorite background pony. Bulk Biceps easily could've had a ten wing power, yes. Does that mean he's good at flying? No. Bulk Biceps got accepted into the Wonderbolt Academy, yes. Does that mean he's good at flying? No. Do they both say something about Bulk's muscle mass? Yes. It's actually good muscle mass. But muscle mass can only get you so far.
3:36 The Equestria Games has a limited amount of space, so with all the pegasi in Ponyville, about eighty of them, there's a good chunk that wouldn't be as lucky as Fluttershy and Bulk Biceps, since either, they know Rainbow Dash the best out of the event leaders of the games or Rainbow Dash was the last one open and Bulk and Fluttershy happened to be the ones who signed in.
4:05 Again, this episode confirmed that Fluttershy has distant stage fright.
4:14 To be honest, I thank all of their moral support and it's going to be used later to help with Twilight's reasoning to Rainbow Dash's conflict.
4:33 And they did. After all the effort in to the story, the animators were strained on time.
4:56 Two of the worst athletes, yes, but is it possible? Yes.
5:16 Or that they're practicing. It'd be cliche AND contrived if the worst athletes where good at that one thing they were chosen to do.
5:27 And sign up mind you. Plus, they signed up when the signups were open.
5:45 Sometimes, it's those techniques of exposition that shows a new writer knows what a concept comes to.
6:02 Fluttershy is doing what the writer was doing too. They were seeing if they understood what was happening. Corey passed and Fluttershy did too.
6:22 The Wonderbolts are looking for a replacement. All the other Wonderbolts are competing in other events. Every team needs to practice at all times, or they're automatically disqualified unless they take a break as it is scheduled, shown in that later scene with Twilight reasoning with Rainbow Dash's conflict. To add on to that, Spitfire's doing it for caution, in case Soarin doesn't get back to his team on time.
6:36 Spitfire hasn't known Bulk Biceps before the Academy. Rainbow Dash has saved Spitfire numerous times. Bulk Biceps was put under the same workouts as Rainbow Dash but didn't handle it quite as well.
7:19 Rarity hadn't covered the sports types yet. Give her some time.
7:50 It's been Rainbow Dash's DREAM to become a Wonderbolt. And by flying for Cloudsdale, she's making HER dream come true. It's that heat of the moment, like in Hey Arnold The Movie where Helga says she loves Arnold.
8:23 This is actually a technique that is used in real life. It confirms the phrase "the straw that broke the camel's back". If any of those points and those points alone replaced what was really in the episode, Rainbow Dash would not've reacted the way she did when Rarity, Applejack and Pinkie Pie were all mentioned. THEY are there for moral support! You can't have moral support without someone to support, which is both the smallest AND biggest reason not to fly for Cloudsdale.
9:16 Derpy's one of the ones not to sign up. That much I can hypothesize. Plus, she's another friend of Rainbow Dash so she's the first pegasus to come to mind. The fact Corey chose Derpy is more about the fans ready to see that she's a friend of Rainbow Dash and her team called her in at first thought.
10:04 They had to choose a replacement to keep the practice going. By now, the replacement would have so much catching up to do that Derpy was the first pony to come to mind.
10:30 Something that will bite Spitfire and Fleet Foot in the flanks.
12:03 Yes, I can't defend that. When an episode has a higher fan service ratio than even Double Rainboom, that's a problem.
To be honest, I actually like this episode. It's actually structurally sound if enough thought is put into it. It seems "I" listened to problems that would've been problems out of any other context. That's why I don't think highly of Raining Helmets, my own Crazy Maze episode.
Wow, those were some good arguments
Graphite Tail Grace Thanks.
Joshua Crapo thank you for pointing these out.
You're welcome.
Wow those are some good arguments. But Rainbow wanting fly with the Wonderbolts goes against her character development in Wonderbolts Academy. In that episode she left the academy because she felt they were doing something morally wrong even though it was her dream to be a wonderbolt. They just through that out the window in that episode, and then they referenced the episode. It just doesn't add up. Also Bulk Biceps did take a little longer to take off but he could still get off pretty fast and could fly just fine.
I actually have a Derpy Hooves plushie from Hot Topic. Even her eyes are goofy and I gave that to my mom as a Christmas present
While I agree this episode was bad, I am going to have to fight with you on Twilight. For a while now, people have been saying that she isn't acting like a princess, well here she kinda is. She is acting like Celestia in a way that she is trying to push her friend in the right direction instead of outright telling her what to do. And I think it is nice to see her mature to that point. She also said later on that not choosing is still a choice and that is also a good lesson. The episode is still awful but I feel like you glossed over some bits here and there.
THANK YOU! Someone else agrees with me on Twi! Why is it that everyone's been clamoring for her to act her role more, and yet when it happens everybody hates it. *Sigh. Though I have to agree with him on a few points, like the reasons she gave.
When DigiBrony whined about Twilight's behavior here I seriously wanted to smack him. Yeah, how dare we expect Rainbow to honor a commitment she made! And then she has the audacity to try and shirk her duties!
Also, professional athletes are in the Olympics. Just look at the basketball events.
Merriwether Williams, wrote a very bad episode 1st, then kept getting better.
Corey Powell, wrote a very good episode 1st, then kept getting worse.
A collaboration with Meghan McCarthy, similar to Power Ponies, with Ed Valentine, a writer whose 1st episode was very good, might end up worse than 1 would think.
Hopefully the best writer and the new writer with the great episode can make a successful 1.
Two of the three over arching arcs? What's the third one?
It's "PEGASI" not "pegasae." The plural Latin form for most of the words finished in "us" (including "pegasus") is "i." For example: the plural form of "cactus" is 'cacti." I know "pegasae" sounds cooler, but it is wrong. Please let's stop saying it :(
I spell it as Pegasi
dubitataugustinus pegasuseses
spaghetti
Aaron Stultz "spaghetti" is Italian, not Latin :P
it was a joke :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPp
0:40 Besides this episode, would the other two that you outright hate be "Putting Your Hoof Down" and "Hearts And Hooves Day"?
and in case your'e wondering why he chose the color brown as the color for episodes he doesn't enjoy at all its to represent poo poo............i know it was kinda obvious but my stubborn and adding sides wouldn't allow me not to state it.
I think this was the worst episode in the entire show. No one acted in character. The story lacked internal coherency and continuity.
If you think that was bad, then you should see A Canterlot Wedding. That episode had Twilight Sparkle find the real Princess Cadence at the expense of all of her other friends, including her brother Shining Armor, who was her only friend before she came to Ponyville, so she really felt at rock bottom once they all left her. November 7, 2016, 11:48pm
Except that episode had redeeming qualities, and they werent masters of friendship yet. This episode just fails throughout the whole episode.
One thing that always bothered me is Rainbow is FROM Cloudsdale, is she not? I mean, I know she went to Rainbow Falls with the intention of qualifying for Ponyville, but how would it be such a great betrayal if she decided to compete for her hometown? It's like being born in Canada, moving to the US at an early age, then competing for the American team at the Olympics. Stuff like that happens all the time.
I accept this episode is one of the weaker ones in MLP, however I don't think MME gave recognition to its good moments. Such as RD's conflict, epiphany & confrontation, Twilight's advice (sure her reasons are weak, but she handled RD's dilemma rather princess-y), the aesthetics (Rainbow Falls looks gorgeous), and of course, Derpy's portrayal.
Now while I disliked Spitfire & Fleetfoot's behavior, I don't think it was OOC, since their character was never concretely established in the first place. Again, I would like to note they are here competing as civilians, also their demeanor should be regarded as separate from the Wonderbolt's status & achievement.
Also, I really don't get why people hated the Mane 6's presence in character-focused episodes, it's not like they were shoehorned into the plot. It was perfectly logical they would all go to support the Ponyville team (Rarity, being an aesthetics designer, were inexperienced with designing sportswear, which emphasizes on comfort & kinesiology), just regard them as background characters for this episode.
About Fluttershy, I'd like to believe her character developed by having stage fright lessened after Putting Your Hoof Down & Hurricane Fluttershy, those were 2 seasons ago after all.
Though the part I disliked the most was Bulk Biceps' & Fluttershy's flying abilities retcon, why can't the writers at least portray them as a capable flier? Second most is, Ponyville really cannot find anypony better to represent it? What happened to all the pegasi in HF?
He explained how those "Good moments" were really weak. They could have been done better, but were played out weakly.
The Mane 6's presence there wasn't bad since they were they to cheer. But any humor they tried to make with them failed and it felt pointless to put them there.
And Fluttershy never clearly had stage fright lessened, It was shown she overcame it to help, but never that she had completely lost the fear. And her competing in a competition in front of thousands and being okay with it is total bullshit. She was basically in the midst of a tornado last time with the help of hundreds that wouldn't judge her for helping out, but still had thoughts that she was being judged. Here she's apparently supposed to fly with only two companions to complete an obstacle course in front of spectators who can and will judge her failure to fly competitively. You see the problem?
And to answer your last question, that what made her and Bulk's presence there just sloppy fan-service.
I can save this episode with these 2 lines
Fluttershy: why are we here again?
Rainbow dash: Because the other pegasi are busy and bulk was one of the ones who wasn't compeiting in another event.
Saves the episode from animated atrocity with these lines
I personally think this is the worst episode of the show. It's not the one I hate the most, I hate many way more (Putting Your Hoof Down, One Bad Apple, ect.) but I can't even begin to comprehend why anyone likes this episode.
I don'g understand why anyone likes this episode or One Bad Apple. I thought Putting Your Hoof Down was okay, but not great or horrible in my opinion.
TheMelonKing20XX One Bad Apple strikes a bad chord with me.
Shadrake I share the same sentiments
5:43 what is this cartoon with the squid? (because cephalopods are awesome)
Mims Zanadunstedt It's Courage the Cowardly Dog, and that's a clip of Enter's very first Admirable Animation.
Let's see:
_Two ponies who can't fly are entering a national sports competition that requires flight of their own accord_
You see, just because a pegasus is good at flying, he is not forced to participate. Rainbow Dash most likely wanted to go to the Equestria Games and dragged Fluttershy with her (Just like she did in multiple other episodes) and Bulk Biceps because... he's bulky!
Plus, having background ponies given major spotlight doesn't sound like a good idea, not only because they would be bland characters but also because having good athletes would make Rainbow Dash's conflict to have less impact
_Absurdly redundant dialog_
Not really, this one seems like you are forcing it because there are episodes with way worse dialog and yet you seem to love them, you even gave Flight to the Finish a top score
_The Wonderbolts are incredibly villainized_
Now, the problem with this gripe is that you are taking a morally incorrect action by a character (or in this case, multiple characters) and making it seem like an example of bad writing. We can't have a cast just with good guys who are good all the time, that would be boring as all hell. By that logic, episodes that actually had villains should be terrible just for that! Morally incorect actions are fine if it fits the alignment of the character and, before you say that it didn't in this case, you just have to let go of the headcanon that the Wonderbolts are this group of paragons.
_Continuity is picked-and-choosed to the point where things in a certain episode are remembered, but others from the exact same episode are forgotten_
It's called priorities. As you probably saw, this episode can be seen as a followup to Wonderbolt Academy, so it took elements from that episode such as the premise and took it in consideration, but they didn't do the same about Bulk Biceps because that is just a filler joke that is in a place where there used to be absolutely nothing! Canon might be nice, but it's not *THAT* nice, it doesn't decide whether an episode is good or bad, so why giving it so much credit?
_Rainbow's conflict was not fleshed out nearly enough_
It actually was. When compared to the pilot, this one actually had some sort of impact, it didn't feel forced, it had context to show up, there was tension, this was what Rainbow Dash's part of the pilot could have been IF the pilot had been good.
_Rarity, Applejack and Pinkie were flanderized, pointless, or both_
Look, you keep bringing up character flanderization in certain episodes and I am starting to think that you make this up because I don't see it at all, this coming from someone who has witnessed a lot of character flanderization in other shows and even in MLP:FiM (ie. The Mysterious Mare Do Well and the majority of S2). One can easily make the claim that this character has been flanderized even without knowing what that really means, because having a character doing something silly (But in character) for the sake of having a filler joke is not flanderization, it's just comedy and there is nothing wrong with that. Besides, those characters weren't the focus of the bloody episode, so of course their personalities had to be reduced in this particular episode so that we could pay attention to the characters that actually matter!
_It's a rehash of many previous episodes_
You know, there is a saying, "It's not about who does it first, but about who does it better"
Honestly, I'm glad it took the conflict used in the pilot because the pilot fucking sucked, yet that specific conflict had a lot of (wasted) potential! What this episode did was taking that potential from the pilot and adding it the quality of Wonderbolt Academy, in which the outcome was something better than both
ohhh YES! I'm totaly commenting here just so can use this later! :D
then again in his update "i'm doing this for myself not for the viewers" Kinda makes more sense that he doesn't care at all if he's one of the most disliked Reviewers, hence nearly 100 Dislikes :s
If anything I wish people would take longer to do their vids and make it with a logical, thinking, calm, not hating on, mindset. Other reviwers, including this post above , has already proven so many of MME's Points wrong.
My words exactly.
I would actually add a minor nitpick, but I otherwise agree.
Bulk Biceps sudden inability to fly well is a dumb, dumb thing.
He got accepted into the Wonderbolt Academy, and was shown flying with no issue whatsoever in that episode.
While I have a less harsh opinion of the episode than you do, but this review gave me the impression that it works like a stress ball. Blasting to pieces a bad episode actually relieves some stress and leaves relaxed feelings afterwards. At least that's how I felt watching this review XD.
I'm tired of telling people this but: YOU CANNOT FLANDERIZE A CHARACTER IN ONE EPISODE! Flanderization is the amplification of minor traits over a long period of time. Not only that, the traits we see of Pinkie and Rarity are central concepts of their characters. AJ's behavior in this episode is at least something LIKE flanderization. One out of three is pretty bad.
The term you're looking for is "simplification". Sure, it doesn't sound as fancy, but it's accurate to what's in the episode.
That is why I thumbs downed your video. Not because I happen to like this episode, but that a lot of your criticism (whether it's right or wrong) was based on misunderstanding the definition of a word. Remind you of anyone?
It reminds me of Byter
you do realize there are more events than one.... right? So their town can still qualify in other events, that's why they made that choppy dialogue with thunderlane..... cuz theres more than one event in the equestria games..? which means ponyville can have a chance at being in the games in other events... not that hard to understand.
Umm...What Enter?
First of all if Fluttershy had no character growth from Hurricane Fluttershy people would probably be complaining about that too. Fluttershy did show character growth in this episode, isn't that one of the main reasons most of us watch this show to begin with? To see the characters grow and not remain static?
Also I really don't think the other characters were "shoe horned" in as you put it. They did show that they had a reason to be there.
Not your best review Mr. Enter I'm sorry.
Agree with this opinion regarding Fluttershy, but one good point doesn't justify a lot of others that are just really bad. Snowflake who can barely fly, Wonderbolts as evil brats and all the other reasons. Personally I was happy with Derpy, that scene has steal a 'HIIIIIIIIIIIIH' from me xD, but this episode was too bad. Ofc is just an opinion ( Sry for my bad Eng )
Maybe, Ayu; but do you truly think that someone who was been scared of performing in front of crowds for her whole life would, after standing up to her fears once, be cheerfully willing to go the Olympics and compete? I've been scared of going on climbing walls since I was small, but I recently tried it and got over it. Do you think I want to go off and climb Mount Everest? No! I may be better with climbing, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to be doing something that I used to be afraid of unnecessarily (or especially cheerfully)! Besides, it usually takes more than just one time of facing your fears to get over them; it can take years depending on the person and how deeply-rooted the fear is.
***** Considering that she spent most of 'Hurricane Fluttershy' terrified of flying in front of others (who, note, mostly consisted of her friends and fellow towns-ponies), even if she was still terrified off screen, I really don't think Fluttershy would be the type to be cheerful in the midst of what would be (to her) a terrifying situation, especially considering that ponies from all over Equestria will be watching her (and maybe all of Equestria if the staff decides to write in, I don't know, crystal-vision screens for those at home).
Well, I still don't find it a natural transition, but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.
***** Sorry, as much as I like your videos I still have to ask, so what if snowflake not being able to fly is comedy, he still flu well in Hurricane Fluttershy, Wonderbolts Academy, and later in Equestria Games and Twilight's Kingdom, so tell me how is he not be able to fly?
i heard castle in the sky! I haven't heard that in forever.
I'm just going to say that I actually enjoyed every episode of MLP. I watch the show for entertainment, not to over analyze every single detail.
Goremize
This........
Mr Enter reviews each episode for the story, writing, humor, and overall entertainment. If something is wrong in those departments then he explains why. If you don't like people who review how these things contribute to how good the episode is then don't watch it.
Also, every point volleyed at the viewers here is logical. At no point is there any reason he made that differed from what actually happened. And any point that was, was intended for humor in his reviews (which he included so watching his video's can be funny). If you don't like his opinion, don't listen to it.
Goremize MrEnter DID review the episode for what it was. And he determined that it was crap. And what lies did he make in his review? All I heard was logic.
If you don't watch the show to analyse it, why are you watching an analysis review of the episode? Analysis analyse the themes and mechanics of the show. Reviews evaluate how well they work. If you don't want to think critically about something, why do you come to videos that do think critically about it and complain?
1:56, I think that they assumed that out of the several sports the town would qualify in at least one. Hell, maybe it is a rule that each town must get into at least one event.
0 Stars?...really Mr.E? Wow, this is the ONLY review that I can disagree with you on. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging on you for your opinion; but 0 stars? This episode isn't even cringe worthy like PYHD to begin with. Yeah, Sorry Mr.E; but unfortunately I can't go with you on this one =/
but cringe worthy is subjective. you cant say one thing and another isnt because it depends on what annoys you.
You can have something that is horrible without it being "cringe worthy".
Lone Pianoist Either way, this episode isn't as horrible as he let on. But then again, that's just my opinion
BlackWidowSoldier099 And in mine and Mr Enter's opinion, this episode failed on almost every front. And in Mr Enter's case, he defended his opinion. It's fine if you don't agree with his opinions and find enjoyment in this episode.
Goremize
So your saying now that he doesn't deserve many because of one of his opinions on ONE episode of show? Really? Thats like saying MLP is bad because one episode of it was terrible.
Or like saying cartoons in general are bad because you watched one bad cartoon.
Derpy was at Twilight's Coronation. She even winked at the audience. And NO ONE NOTICED!
I pretty much disagree with this review.
Agreed. It was entertaining from start to finish. I see only the people who critically analyze the show not liking it.
*11:54*...how is that unicorn standing on the rainbow?
Eh, the show has been having errors like that since the beginning.
Dude, just met your channel, sorry but why the fuck are you so hard on this? Calm down about. Even the good stuff you don't show light on, but look on how its bad.
He did show on what good he THOUGHT it was. Derpy was there. These are his opinions, and he's entitled to them. I really like Rainbow Falls, but I can't call him out on this because he's just expressing his opinion. And this is nowhere near how hard he was on Putting Your Hoof Down. Go watch that review.
me too
Ozone Atmosphere Cool. Now go watch Putting Your Hoof Down. You'll see what he does when he hates an episode SOO much.
thanks for the heads up
Ozone Atmosphere No problem.
Is it bad that at a personal level I had more problems with "Bats!" than with this episode?
How come?
***** The developments on Bats were too out of the left field for me. This one, on the other hand, was enough for me to turn down my brain and just enjoy the ride. The major problem with this episode, methinks, is that with some minor tinkering it could have been great, as in, there's a better episode trying to come out of it and is hard for people to ignore the wasted potential.
Why are they there? Who else would want to go up against the Wonderbolts? Only Rainbow Dash and the couple of fliers.
Fluttershy is scared about Pinkie yelling suddenly in her face.
BB couldn't fly, and the only current backing is fan-made (steroids).
Rainbow Dash is working as a team, not alone. She has grown as a character.
The rest of the Mane 6 are there for support & possibly to compete for other events.
Of course, we don't know just how many events that there are, FS & BB could've been the only other pegusi who wanted to try going up against the Wonderbolts.
Soarin could've been injured FOREVER from sporting, he might not have been able to be a Wonderbolt again, either.
RD had to deal with loyalty: choosing between helping her friends or helping the Wonderbolts. Whomsoever she doesn't help is screwed. The pressure gets to her and she snaps.
Do note that the writers like to write to the Bronies, that's why they added Derpy, but do note that this means that Derpy is a worse flier than Bulk Biceps.
Also, do note that in regular sport training, some athletes have had their lives ruined by a single injury, even if their healed. Also, it is shown on multiple occasions that Rainbow thought that her team was bad, and she didn't want the Wonderbolts to lose out on the chance to even try.
12:00 Just how did it have ALL of the references in the background? It had a couple, at most, but not even nearly half of them.
Maybe next time try going into a review without wanting to hate it, okay?
In that case, when can I expect a review of "Home on the Range"?
Here's my biggest problem with the episode, which is NEVER addressed, both in the episode itself, and in the review you did: RD and Soarin are in the hospital, with FAKE injuries...HELLO?!! What hospital would allow that waste of space and resources?! I know EMTs HAVE to go to any calls they get, even bullshit ones. One of my friends is an EMT, I get the gist of it. But HOSPITALS do not accommodate for fake injuries. They try to get people out as soon as they can(obviously, without risking their patients' health) for space and resource concerns. One look at those two, and they'd be out of the place, possibly in cuffs.
This is mlp the main characters don't get punished i mean twilight brainwashed ponville and you don't see her getting put in jail