Thanks for the video I just bought this tires from walmart finally they were on stock. As soon as I get it installed I will send you a picture. This videos helped me make my decision.
How did that answer anyone's question? The question was are the milestar Patagonias a true 38 then it's like you just forgot you were yakking about 38s and switched to 37s.
What size rims and I want beadlocks…I’ve been looking at the tires for a while now… can’t beat them for the price and my jku isn’t my daily driver…just came across your channel, great job very informative!!!👍🏼👍🏼
You should never lift a tire that size. Take an old hitch receiver, measure it out and weld a little plate so that when the tire is resting on the plate it's all but aligned with the carrier studs. From ground level you then roll the tire up onto the hitch plate and make your rotational adjustment from there.
Damn I have an MP concepts spare tire carrier that raises my spare mounting bracket about an inch and I have about two inches to spare from a 35... These might not fit. 😤😤
What type of terrain do you usually wheel? What coast are you on? Wondering how these would do for east coast wheeling in the Appalachian mountains with a lot of granite rock, slick rock, mud and slop.
That’s my kind of area. I’m in eastern NC and usually wheel east coast stuff. Muddy, rocky, slick. These tires do pretty well in that. They really like to be aired down. Been quite happy with them this year especially for the money. There are more aggressive tires but these seem to strike a good balance of performance on and off-road. Disappointments can come from not airing down enough as the center of tire has more dense tread and the outer tread is much more aggressive right into the sidewalls as well. Too much air keeps the tire on that center more street oriented tread.
If you’re running this exact size in the video probably 28-30 psi for a gladiator. There’s an equation that uses your stock tire size and the cold tire pressures listed on the yellow sticker in your door jam. It requires a tire load table too. 28-30 should be about right though. I would not go to the max 35 psi for this particular size as that’s just overkill for that vehicle.
How is that HD tire carrier holding out with these 38's? Did you have to mod your HD tire carrier at all to get it to fit on there? Asking because the factory carrier specs say max tire size is 37". Thanks for the video!
It has been good with this tire and wheel combination. Plenty of adjustability to position it well without modifications. Haven’t had any durability issues either. The door feels quite heavy is probably my only complaint. The carrier seems to handle this setup with ease.
Rugged Ridge ruggedridge.com/hd-tire-carrier-kit-07-15-jeep-wrangler-jk-11546-50.html It’s been good. No problems holding this tire and wheel setup. Door is heavy feeling but I like it overall. Keeps the tire close to the vehicle as well.
The wheel is 17x8.5” -6 offset/4.5” BS. I also run a 1.25” Teraflex hub centric spacer as well. So it’s really like 3.25” BS on a 8.5” wheel, whatever offset that works out to be. Needs every bit of that spacing too. Still slightly rubs frame at full lock so I may be adjusting steering stops a bit too.
My thoughts as well. Just wanted to be clear I was on an 8.5” wheel and that it was different from what Milestar used. I’d be curious to see them on a 10” wheel. Thanks for watching!
@@Jufullback35 you can run a 13.5 on a 8.5 all day long. Years ago racers ran wide tires on narrow wheels and called them "poor man beadlocks". So you can use 8.5" wheels with zero problems.
Still on stock 4.10s with the 6 speed manual. The manual trans and rubicon transfer case still make for a capable vehicle. Still needs a gear change of course. Had planned for 5.13 gears but with a 2nd child on the way we’re likely looking to move to an off-road vehicle that better accommodates us.
They are quite a pain to move that's for sure. I had to gain some technique to make up for strength lol. It's actually quite challenging for me to lift heavy things especially from the ground. Thanks for watching man!
Yea, fortunately these tires seems to run quite true to their size claim. My previous 37 KO2 tires were pretty disappointing measuring 35.5" at best. Good tire just sucks the size wasn't close to true.
I measured before I mounted and it was less than 38. Roughly what it was at max pressure mounted. Saw about 37.5” unmounted. It’s close enough to a 38 in my book anyways just not exact or over.
why do people like this tire especially in the 38 38 1350 is a C rated Tire you can't put much of a load on it. A D would be better. These tires are too soft yes they're good on rocks but they wear out fast on the highway like really fast. Stick with the Nittos or Toyo's or the Cooper SST pro
Just depends what you’re putting it on. Don’t be fooled by the C rating. Tires gain capacity with size. These tires are rated to hold 3K Lbs. The C rating really doesn’t have anything to do with the compound and wear characteristics but more the stiffness of the tire in the structure under the tread where ply count changes with rating. The C rating is a plus IMO for a Jeep type application. For the record the all so popular Nitto TG 40” is C rated too. These may not be the 38 for your 1 ton but they are nice on a Jeep. Great thing is there are a lot of options for us all and we can get what suits us. I’d hard pass on the Toyo MT personally but some like it. My Nitto TGs were fine but really the best thing about them was longevity on the road. There aren’t many tires in 38” either. Fun trying some different outside of the overhyped Nitto and Toyo brands honestly.
Im a 150lbs 5’9 and this is exactly how I lift my 37”nittos on raceline beadlocks up to put on my carrier 👍
Didn’t get much education on the tire itself but great info on the tire lift technique very useful !!
Thanks for the video I just bought this tires from walmart finally they were on stock. As soon as I get it installed I will send you a picture. This videos helped me make my decision.
I'm running the exact same wheel & tire that you are on the same type of jeep. Your video is right on the money with the info.
Nice I guess great minds think alike haha. Thank you and thanks for watching!
What size wheels do y’all have on these awesome tires
Dude you are the man! Great video, hope the channel grows
I appreciate it brother!
Good trick lifting that spare.. I was just thinking how to put my spare up..thanks!!!!
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
Nice... my method is like captain morgan. One leg on the crate then bring the tire up to your knee and push the tire to mount lol
Like the video! I'm planning on putting the 38s on Rubicon 4dr. Great technique for lift the tire.
Thanks brother! You will enjoy them sir!
Whats a spare tire?
How did that answer anyone's question? The question was are the milestar Patagonias a true 38 then it's like you just forgot you were yakking about 38s and switched to 37s.
What size rims and I want beadlocks…I’ve been looking at the tires for a while now… can’t beat them for the price and my jku isn’t my daily driver…just came across your channel, great job very informative!!!👍🏼👍🏼
You should never lift a tire that size. Take an old hitch receiver, measure it out and weld a little plate so that when the tire is resting on the plate it's all but aligned with the carrier studs. From ground level you then roll the tire up onto the hitch plate and make your rotational adjustment from there.
Damn I have an MP concepts spare tire carrier that raises my spare mounting bracket about an inch and I have about two inches to spare from a 35... These might not fit. 😤😤
Nice vid and technics
Milestar say 37.8" so pretty close to what you came up with.
Did you ever get a tread width on those. Just the tread that hits the pavement?
Ty j,liked it lol
Just a brut :) Thanks Jay!
What type of terrain do you usually wheel? What coast are you on? Wondering how these would do for east coast wheeling in the Appalachian mountains with a lot of granite rock, slick rock, mud and slop.
That’s my kind of area. I’m in eastern NC and usually wheel east coast stuff. Muddy, rocky, slick. These tires do pretty well in that. They really like to be aired down. Been quite happy with them this year especially for the money. There are more aggressive tires but these seem to strike a good balance of performance on and off-road. Disappointments can come from not airing down enough as the center of tire has more dense tread and the outer tread is much more aggressive right into the sidewalls as well. Too much air keeps the tire on that center more street oriented tread.
I have these on my gladiator not sure psi run tho
If you’re running this exact size in the video probably 28-30 psi for a gladiator. There’s an equation that uses your stock tire size and the cold tire pressures listed on the yellow sticker in your door jam. It requires a tire load table too. 28-30 should be about right though. I would not go to the max 35 psi for this particular size as that’s just overkill for that vehicle.
How are the Patagonias holding up?
Good, no complaints so far. Only have about 2k miles on them. Ride nice and seem to work well off-road. Should have some follow up videos coming soon.
Good Video... very informative... What LIFT do you have on your JEEP....Aloha!
Thank you! I am running the Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor.
How is that HD tire carrier holding out with these 38's? Did you have to mod your HD tire carrier at all to get it to fit on there? Asking because the factory carrier specs say max tire size is 37". Thanks for the video!
It has been good with this tire and wheel combination. Plenty of adjustability to position it well without modifications. Haven’t had any durability issues either. The door feels quite heavy is probably my only complaint. The carrier seems to handle this setup with ease.
Can you do a rolling circumference measurement?
Its 7" around about 7 3/4" long.
Did you get the tread width on those? MS does not give that spec...
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What tire carrier are you using? Also any issues with it? I was looking at PS body mounted swing away
Rugged Ridge ruggedridge.com/hd-tire-carrier-kit-07-15-jeep-wrangler-jk-11546-50.html It’s been good. No problems holding this tire and wheel setup. Door is heavy feeling but I like it overall. Keeps the tire close to the vehicle as well.
Looked like 36 and 13/16 to me
do you have lift? if so how many inches and liftkit setup? I'm trying to run 38s
I run a 3.5” RK X-factor lift.
@@JsGarage Do you think I can just do a 3.5 spring lift? or I will need the adjustable control arms or else my tires will rub when turning?
What size lift do you have
3.5” RK X Factor “mid arm”
What offset are you runnin
The wheel is 17x8.5” -6 offset/4.5” BS. I also run a 1.25” Teraflex hub centric spacer as well. So it’s really like 3.25” BS on a 8.5” wheel, whatever offset that works out to be. Needs every bit of that spacing too. Still slightly rubs frame at full lock so I may be adjusting steering stops a bit too.
8.5" wheel would make the tire taller if anything not shorter.
My thoughts as well. Just wanted to be clear I was on an 8.5” wheel and that it was different from what Milestar used. I’d be curious to see them on a 10” wheel. Thanks for watching!
You got a 13.5 wide mounted on an 8.5 wide rim???
@@Jufullback35 you can run a 13.5 on a 8.5 all day long. Years ago racers ran wide tires on narrow wheels and called them "poor man beadlocks". So you can use 8.5" wheels with zero problems.
What gearing are you running?
Still on stock 4.10s with the 6 speed manual. The manual trans and rubicon transfer case still make for a capable vehicle. Still needs a gear change of course. Had planned for 5.13 gears but with a 2nd child on the way we’re likely looking to move to an off-road vehicle that better accommodates us.
Amazed at how strong you are to be able to lift a 38" tire off of the spare tire mount. Those things are heavy...
They are quite a pain to move that's for sure. I had to gain some technique to make up for strength lol. It's actually quite challenging for me to lift heavy things especially from the ground. Thanks for watching man!
@@JsGarage My brother has a gate with a steel top bar in his yard that we throw a ratchet strap over to take his spare on/off with ..
Todd Hoffmaster There ya go!
I'm guessing, 37.5
Looks like I was right...my little 31 Patagonias are 30.5 so I figured it'd be the same.
Yea, fortunately these tires seems to run quite true to their size claim. My previous 37 KO2 tires were pretty disappointing measuring 35.5" at best. Good tire just sucks the size wasn't close to true.
If you take it off the rim its 38
I measured before I mounted and it was less than 38. Roughly what it was at max pressure mounted. Saw about 37.5” unmounted. It’s close enough to a 38 in my book anyways just not exact or over.
@@JsGarage cool thanks
What did you do to your neighbors garage door dude? Not cool. Not cool.
😂 you saw that huh? 🤫
Your hair scares me a little bit.
Boo 👻 haha
He could puncture a tire with it!
why do people like this tire especially in the 38 38 1350 is a C rated Tire you can't put much of a load on it. A D would be better. These tires are too soft yes they're good on rocks but they wear out fast on the highway like really fast. Stick with the Nittos or Toyo's or the Cooper SST pro
Just depends what you’re putting it on. Don’t be fooled by the C rating. Tires gain capacity with size. These tires are rated to hold 3K Lbs. The C rating really doesn’t have anything to do with the compound and wear characteristics but more the stiffness of the tire in the structure under the tread where ply count changes with rating. The C rating is a plus IMO for a Jeep type application. For the record the all so popular Nitto TG 40” is C rated too. These may not be the 38 for your 1 ton but they are nice on a Jeep. Great thing is there are a lot of options for us all and we can get what suits us. I’d hard pass on the Toyo MT personally but some like it. My Nitto TGs were fine but really the best thing about them was longevity on the road. There aren’t many tires in 38” either. Fun trying some different outside of the overhyped Nitto and Toyo brands honestly.