Thank you so much for your comment. The Chained Oak was done as a test to see if people would like the short story format. The video seems to be doing quite well and we have planned to make 3 more... we have a list of 8 possible episodes.... Hopefully as soon as the great British weather improves we can get out and about filming!
The Chained Oak is not only still alive, but it appears to be getting bigger and it's roots and branches seem to have adapted to the chains. I bet at this rate the Chained Oak will be as big as the Major Oak one day...
Sorry but you're mistaken about the history of Alton castle & Alton Towers. The hunting lodge that became the mansion of Alton Towers is not connected to Alton castle. They're two totally different sites. Parts of the hunting lodge can be seen still in the ruins of Alton Towers. Alton castle is, as you say, in the village of Alton on the opposite side of churnet valley.
Ive spent a week trying to figure out how I got my info wrong... I think "The History Of Alton Towers" is just badly worded Quote "In the 17th century, the former castle was redeveloped as a hunting lodge known as Alerton (or Alverton), which is the ancient name for Alton. The three-storey structure reused one of the castle's former towers, which remains part of the present-day building. The lodge was split into two properties, one of which was rented by a tenant. The other half was used by the Talbots as a summer residence, their main residence being at Heythrop Park in Oxfordshire." Quote "In 1801, Charles, 15th Earl of Shrewsbury, decided that the old Alton Castle was beyond repair, so he decided to have work started on a Gothic-style country house on his estate on the northside of the Churnet Valley." Quote " Most of the 12th-century ruins were demolished to make way for the new building" Quote "The site has been fortified since Saxon times, with the original castle dating from the 12th century. The current castle was constructed in the mid-19th century by John Talbot, 16th Earl of Shrewsbury" To me it sounds like the 12th century Castle and the building now known as Alton Castle are two separate buildings - The 12th century castle converted into a lodge and then used as part of the mansion and the 19th century Castle... Quote "The Earl also commissioned Pugin to develop the surrounding area on castle hill. A "replica of a medieval hospital, a guildhall and presbytery" were constructed; dedicated to St. John the Baptist, the buildings served as a church and hospital (almshouses) and were designed to provide and care for the poor for of the parish. The church was also used as a school for local poor children." My thoughts are the original castle did become the hunting lodge and is still part of today's towers and what we now know as Alton Castle is this replica built by the 16th Earl. Im genuinely interested in your thoughts... If TH-cam comments don't allow enough space feel free to drop me an email - theurbanghoststories@gmail.com Thanks for your comment
Hi, thanks for for your reply. I hope my comment didn't offend you. No offence was intended. I've seen the same mistake regarding Alton Towers & Alton castle many times on TH-cam. Its understandable reading the quotes you sent me. Hopefully I can clear things up. Starting with the 1st quote. The hunting lodge wasn't developed from the former castle. There never was a castle on that site. The mansion that became Alton Towers was developed from the lodge. No castle ever involved. 2nd quote. I don't know how the author got these facts wrong but wrong they are. The 15th Earl did indeed decide to enlarge the hunting lodge but not because the old Alton castle was beyond repair. He did it because he intended spending more time there & eventually to live there. Old Alton castle is on the south side of the valley in Alton. The rebuilding on the site of the old castle commenced around 1840...which brings us to quote 3. Yes most of the 12th century castle was demolished & made way for a new castle designed by A. W. Pugin. This was under the auspices of the 16th Earl. Pugin was born in 1812 so couldn't of been involved in the redevelopment of the hunting lodge in 1801. Quote 4. Yes the site has been fortified since Saxon times & the original castle does date from the 12thC. But the current castle, as we've established, was constructed in the mid 19th C by the 16th Earl. This information all relates to the castle in the village of Alton, not Alton Towers. Quote 5. Yes Pugin was commissioned to build a hospital, guildhall & a church, all dedicated to St John. All these buildings still stand, right next to the ruins of old Alton castle & the castle which replaced it, in the village of Alton. I went to school there in the 1970s. I was christened in St Johns church, had my 1st holy communion there & was married there. So, to sum up (at last I hear you say)...Alton castle is in the village of Alton. Alton Towers was developed from a modest hunting lodge in the early 19th C. No castle ever stood on the site of Alton Towers. If you ever are in the area of Alton I urge you to visit the castle ruins. Its a stunningly beautiful site. The Pugin designed castle is spectacular. I hope this information has cleared things up a bit. Sorry for the longwindedness of my reply. Best wishes to you. Take care. Karl Maddox
Did u ever do a ghost investigation? Ive been there and it does have that feel about it. There seems to be many more chains on your video than there us know tho
We never did an investigation... It's on the list though! The team got distracted this year, we opened a Witchcraft Shop in Hanley, properly launched The Ghost Academy as a Public Ghost Hunt business. Next year though we hope to do another 6 episodes 👍
Good story! I am off to watch more!
Thank you so much for your comment. The Chained Oak was done as a test to see if people would like the short story format. The video seems to be doing quite well and we have planned to make 3 more... we have a list of 8 possible episodes.... Hopefully as soon as the great British weather improves we can get out and about filming!
The Chained Oak is not only still alive, but it appears to be getting bigger and it's roots and branches seem to have adapted to the chains.
I bet at this rate the Chained Oak will be as big as the Major Oak one day...
Enjoyed that 👍
Thank you James
Sorry but you're mistaken about the history of Alton castle & Alton Towers. The hunting lodge that became the mansion of Alton Towers is not connected to Alton castle. They're two totally different sites. Parts of the hunting lodge can be seen still in the ruins of Alton Towers. Alton castle is, as you say, in the village of Alton on the opposite side of churnet valley.
Ive spent a week trying to figure out how I got my info wrong... I think "The History Of Alton Towers" is just badly worded
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"In the 17th century, the former castle was redeveloped as a hunting lodge known as Alerton (or Alverton), which is the ancient name for Alton. The three-storey structure reused one of the castle's former towers, which remains part of the present-day building. The lodge was split into two properties, one of which was rented by a tenant. The other half was used by the Talbots as a summer residence, their main residence being at Heythrop Park in Oxfordshire."
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"In 1801, Charles, 15th Earl of Shrewsbury, decided that the old Alton Castle was beyond repair, so he decided to have work started on a Gothic-style country house on his estate on the northside of the Churnet Valley."
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" Most of the 12th-century ruins were demolished to make way for the new building"
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"The site has been fortified since Saxon times, with the original castle dating from the 12th century. The current castle was constructed in the mid-19th century by John Talbot, 16th Earl of Shrewsbury"
To me it sounds like the 12th century Castle and the building now known as Alton Castle are two separate buildings - The 12th century castle converted into a lodge and then used as part of the mansion and the 19th century Castle...
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"The Earl also commissioned Pugin to develop the surrounding area on castle hill. A "replica of a medieval hospital, a guildhall and presbytery" were constructed; dedicated to St. John the Baptist, the buildings served as a church and hospital (almshouses) and were designed to provide and care for the poor for of the parish. The church was also used as a school for local poor children."
My thoughts are the original castle did become the hunting lodge and is still part of today's towers and what we now know as Alton Castle is this replica built by the 16th Earl.
Im genuinely interested in your thoughts... If TH-cam comments don't allow enough space feel free to drop me an email - theurbanghoststories@gmail.com
Thanks for your comment
Hi, thanks for for your reply. I hope my comment didn't offend you. No offence was intended. I've seen the same mistake regarding Alton Towers & Alton castle many times on TH-cam. Its understandable reading the quotes you sent me. Hopefully I can clear things up. Starting with the 1st quote. The hunting lodge wasn't developed from the former castle. There never was a castle on that site. The mansion that became Alton Towers was developed from the lodge. No castle ever involved. 2nd quote. I don't know how the author got these facts wrong but wrong they are. The 15th Earl did indeed decide to enlarge the hunting lodge but not because the old Alton castle was beyond repair. He did it because he intended spending more time there & eventually to live there. Old Alton castle is on the south side of the valley in Alton. The rebuilding on the site of the old castle commenced around 1840...which brings us to quote 3. Yes most of the 12th century castle was demolished & made way for a new castle designed by A. W. Pugin. This was under the auspices of the 16th Earl. Pugin was born in 1812 so couldn't of been involved in the redevelopment of the hunting lodge in 1801. Quote 4. Yes the site has been fortified since Saxon times & the original castle does date from the 12thC. But the current castle, as we've established, was constructed in the mid 19th C by the 16th Earl. This information all relates to the castle in the village of Alton, not Alton Towers. Quote 5. Yes Pugin was commissioned to build a hospital, guildhall & a church, all dedicated to St John. All these buildings still stand, right next to the ruins of old Alton castle & the castle which replaced it, in the village of Alton. I went to school there in the 1970s. I was christened in St Johns church, had my 1st holy communion there & was married there.
So, to sum up (at last I hear you say)...Alton castle is in the village of Alton. Alton Towers was developed from a modest hunting lodge in the early 19th C. No castle ever stood on the site of Alton Towers. If you ever are in the area of Alton I urge you to visit the castle ruins. Its a stunningly beautiful site. The Pugin designed castle is spectacular. I hope this information has cleared things up a bit. Sorry for the longwindedness of my reply.
Best wishes to you. Take care.
Karl Maddox
Did u ever do a ghost investigation? Ive been there and it does have that feel about it. There seems to be many more chains on your video than there us know tho
We never did an investigation... It's on the list though! The team got distracted this year, we opened a Witchcraft Shop in Hanley, properly launched The Ghost Academy as a Public Ghost Hunt business. Next year though we hope to do another 6 episodes 👍
@UrbanGhostStories great I'm in Newcastle so will go an take a look 👌
It's The Little Magic Corner Shop. a Google search should find us 👍