It's difficult to find words to describe how good this is. My two favorite things about it are how breathtakingly perfect the pianissimos are, and how well Jay and Michael trade off between the upper and middle voices during the trios.
Nichts, was Menschen tun, ist perfekt. Fehler zu machen ist eine gute Sache für den Menschen. Was würden Sie denken, wenn diese durch KI ersetzt würden?
Trombone Trios Pachebel: Choral Prelude 1:01 Rheinberger Trio 2:57 Haydn: St. Antoni Chirake 4:28 Handel/ Arr. Ostrander: from Rinaldo Ah, Let Me Weep 7:03 W.A Mozart: Adagio 11:03 Four Trombones & Tuba Debussy/ Arr. R. Hughes: La Fille aux Cheveux de Lin 18:48 Maas: First Grand Quartet 21:47 Carl Pfleger: Hertzengesang Opus 5 25:34 Antony Holborne/ Arr. M. Mulcahy Pavane Posthuma 30:57 Antony Holborne/ Arr. M. Mulcahy The Fairie Round 33:48 Orchestra Excerpts Brahms Symphony No.4 35:50 Tchaikovsky Symphony No.6 37:50 Janacek Sinfonietta 38:50 Bruckner Symphony No.8 39:49 Mahler Symphony No.2 41:34 Wagner Walkurenritt 43:09
Trombone Trio 1:00 Pachelbel - Choral Prelude 2:59 Rheinberger - Trio 4:29 Haydn - St. Antoni Chorale 7:05 Handel - Ah! Let me weep 11:05 Mozart - Adagio Low Brass Ensemble 18:49 Debussy - La fille aux cheveux de lin 21:49 Maas - First Grand Quartet
Hard to believe 5 people can make a sound that big. I recall, many years ago, when the Chicago Trombone and Tuba recording of the early 70s came out, sitting in Arnold Jacobs' basement studio, down on South Normal, listening to the master tapes of that iconic recording with "Jake" saying, "Hard to believe 5 people can make a sound that big." He was right then. He is right now. I was one lucky guy. I can't really believe I was actually there.
I'm going to say it. Jay Friedman has the best Trombone Sound that I've ever heard. I believe he is THE Gold Standard!! Even to this day. I know everybody is endlessly impressed with Joe Alessi's sound but I feel like Jay's sound is clearly better. His sound is just as smooth, just as beautiful as Alessi's AND it's a bit richer and more substantial. Not to make it so personal but it seems like everybody and there Mom thinks that Alessi is the best thing to ever happen to the trombone... and then I'll hear Jay play the same great trombone passages ... and I consistently prefer HIS performances to Alessi's not Just the Sound.. The phrasing, the Artistry ..like the Mahler 2 in this video.. Nobody can achieve Jay's sound on the trombone and NOBODY seems to care!!
@@Ntclarinet2 would he possibly ever do a lesson via something like Skype or phone call maybe? I could pay him via Cash App. maybe.. I just don't know if it ever works that way
@@mikesuss9513 I had a private lesson with him once-he stressed a method of articulation where the only point of pressure in the face is on the embouchure, and the release of air drove the production of sound rather than forceful articulation if I recall correctly. Should be an effortless feeling. It’s been many years and I don’t know if I still have the notes but what an experience to have had I came to his own house and stayed for an hour or two and played in his living room
Jay is soo freaking underrated.. probably my favorite brass player right now ... and by right now, I mean stuff he did 30 plus years ago And This year.. the consistency of sound *especially the soft stuff* is on another level
I’m sorry, but Jay Friedman is one of the most respected trombonists in the world. He’s very appropriately rated according to how ability and achievement.
@@tromboneman4517 I watch a lot of videos and I read a LOT of comments And I never hear a top trombone player say ANYTHING about Jay Friedman *NOT ONCE*; His name never even comes up. Yeah you will hear comments about Jay in a video like this, Sure!! I'm asserting that he's The Best Ever... SOOO from MY standpoint he's way underrated. Not only that but you will hear a lot of BS about how JF can't play loud. There's proof positives ALL OVER TH-cam where he sounds spectacular playing loud. There's an interview with Charlie Vernon in which the interviewer asserts that Joe Alessi is CLEARLY the Best Principal Trombone player in the World.... And I'm thinkin "Hey, Charlie, Say SOMETHING about Jay Friedman!!" *nothing* Do we really need to hear another uncontested crowning of Joe Alessi?? So this is me Contesting that assertion. I want to flipping hear people say that Jay Friedman is That Guy... because he really is... The only guy who I hear consistently telling people who Jay Friedman REALLY IS?? Gene Pokorny Chicago's Great Tuba Player I think that there is a great deal of JEALOUSY and REVISIONISM as it applies to Jay Friedman's Reputation. In truth, Jay Friedman is an absolute COLOSSUS
The recordings starting at 18:48, 25:35, 37:53, and 39:50 until the end is how brass is supposed to sound. "Like a pipe organ," as my youth orchestra conductor used to say. Such a shame I never got to see the CSO play with this brass section, otherwise I would've definitely taken up music sooner than I did.
this is the current low-brass section of the CSO!!! Principal is Jay, asst. is Mulcahy and bass is Charlie Vernon; all the same players in this video!!!!.
Spectacular! Gene Pokorny performed a solo concert with a local concert band! Incredible musician. I can't wait until the CSO Brass can perform again during the Midwest Band & Orchestra Clinic!
Like buttah! I’m getting vehklempt! Taughk amomst yaselves. I’ll give you a topic...”How do you perform when your only object is to give your listeners maximum pleasure?”. Bravo, guys.
Mike’s sound seems better as the lead line than Jay’s. You have to be experienced in brass ensembles to know it’s not a matter of being the best player, but creating the synergy.
I'm sure they all took lessons and practiced a lot. All kidding aside, if you are a student, this is exactly the sort of playing you should spend some time listening to as you develop your own technique and musicality. Another difficult aspect is playing well in an ensemble. It is much different than solo work. You really have to learn to listen to the others you play with and learn to play as one.
Something I love about this recording is how effortless the blend sounds. Even when Jay and Mick switch roles. It's hard to tell if Jay is playing on a straight large bore or a small tenor. Regardless, the sound is just so pure. Does anyone know where to find this sheet music? I might not be looking in the right places, but I've not been able to turn up much.
I would like to know myself. Btw, I'm quiet sure that Jay is playing on a large bore, due to the size of the bell and slide. My bet is Bach 42 with gold brass bell and nickel silver slide. .
The first selections are from "Four Transcriptions" by Osborn. The Pachelbell, Rheinburger, another Pachelbell chorale prelude and the St. Anthony chorale. I think the Let Me Weep is from a collection by Allen Ostrander.
Not to be disrespectful, but can we tell by Charlie Vernon’s hair? Whenever it was - truly as good as it gets! People who are used to playing together like this can really make amazing music.
It seems like Mike plays on a Bach 42 with Thayer valve. Anyone who knows more about the spesifications? Gold brass or yellow brass, heavy weight light weight or regular bell?
This video should be dedicated to Frank Crisafulli, Doug Edelman, Eric Carlson, David Finlayson, Dave Read, Paul Welcomer, Rick Stout, Kari Sundstrom and of course Mick Mulcahy and many others for reasons that I won’t elaborate on here.
I'm guessing great orchestral trombone players who usually never get to show us how great they really are .. because they are not typically playing first trombone parts ..
@@rickdynes Historically speaking, every great low brass section has an exceptional 2nd trombonist in the middle of it. It almost doesn’t matter how great (or especially famous) the other components of the section are- if a low brass section doesn’t have a 2nd player with a great sound that fills the gap between the more brilliant sounding principal and the bigger, warmer, more resonant bass, great ears and great musical instincts in the middle of it, it just won’t ever sound truly great.
Beautiful full sound. They sound like a large quire. This is a bad thing. We don’t want orchestras to keep thinking 3 trombones is enough.😂 Are any of these guys related?
It’s important to check back in and re-listen to this on a regular basis.
It's difficult to find words to describe how good this is. My two favorite things about it are how breathtakingly perfect the pianissimos are, and how well Jay and Michael trade off between the upper and middle voices during the trios.
It's sad that this is probably as close as we will get to perfection
Совершенство не существует в настоящей жизни
Nichts, was Menschen tun, ist perfekt.
Fehler zu machen ist eine gute Sache für den Menschen.
Was würden Sie denken, wenn diese durch KI ersetzt würden?
Trombone Trios
Pachebel: Choral Prelude
1:01
Rheinberger Trio
2:57
Haydn: St. Antoni Chirake
4:28
Handel/ Arr. Ostrander: from Rinaldo Ah, Let Me Weep
7:03
W.A Mozart: Adagio
11:03
Four Trombones & Tuba
Debussy/ Arr. R. Hughes: La Fille aux Cheveux de Lin
18:48
Maas: First Grand Quartet
21:47
Carl Pfleger: Hertzengesang Opus 5
25:34
Antony Holborne/ Arr. M. Mulcahy Pavane Posthuma
30:57
Antony Holborne/ Arr. M. Mulcahy
The Fairie Round
33:48
Orchestra Excerpts
Brahms Symphony No.4
35:50
Tchaikovsky Symphony No.6
37:50
Janacek Sinfonietta
38:50
Bruckner Symphony No.8
39:49
Mahler Symphony No.2
41:34
Wagner Walkurenritt
43:09
Rheinberger Trio is from Op. 49 10 trios for organ, no. 10 andante molto
Trombone Trio
1:00 Pachelbel - Choral Prelude
2:59 Rheinberger - Trio
4:29 Haydn - St. Antoni Chorale
7:05 Handel - Ah! Let me weep
11:05 Mozart - Adagio
Low Brass Ensemble
18:49 Debussy - La fille aux cheveux de lin
21:49 Maas - First Grand Quartet
This is how you play when you don’t know that you’re not “supposed to” sound this good.
Hard to believe 5 people can make a sound that big. I recall, many years ago, when the Chicago Trombone and Tuba recording of the early 70s came out, sitting in Arnold Jacobs' basement studio, down on South Normal, listening to the master tapes of that iconic recording with "Jake" saying, "Hard to believe 5 people can make a sound that big." He was right then. He is right now.
I was one lucky guy. I can't really believe I was actually there.
This is the way trombones should sound.
Best comment.
As good as this is imagine listening in person and having those sounds hit and wash over you. Goosebumps.
I used to listen to them at Ravinia. It was like a classical rock concert.
The quality of their sound is impressive, and the way each one's sound blended together. Congratulations
This is fantastic!! I think this is what my trumpet listens to when I'm not in the room.
I'm going to say it. Jay Friedman has the best Trombone Sound that I've ever heard. I believe he is THE Gold Standard!! Even to this day. I know everybody is endlessly impressed with Joe Alessi's sound but I feel like Jay's sound is clearly better. His sound is just as smooth, just as beautiful as Alessi's AND it's a bit richer and more substantial.
Not to make it so personal but it seems like everybody and there Mom thinks that Alessi is the best thing to ever happen to the trombone...
and then I'll hear Jay play the same great trombone passages ... and I consistently prefer HIS performances to Alessi's
not Just the Sound.. The phrasing, the Artistry
..like the Mahler 2 in this video..
Nobody can achieve Jay's sound on the trombone and NOBODY seems to care!!
I agree with you! Also Ralph Sauer’s sound is right up there with Jay’s, for me anyway.
He’s might be an amazing trombonist under the Reiner and Scholti era, but I’m his daughter and I absolutely love his playing ❤️ but as a human…..
@@Ntclarinet2 btw .. that's Lovely to hear
and I'm a professional singer who would Love to get a lesson with Mr. Friedman..
@@Ntclarinet2
would he possibly ever do a lesson via something like Skype or phone call maybe?
I could pay him via Cash App. maybe..
I just don't know if it ever works that way
This is one of my happy places that I go to when I have to mark and work into the night, I am with my people, thank you, over and over.
The trombone studio at my school just had a masterclass with Jay Friedman
Probably the most I’ve ever learned in 2 hours
What do think was the most useful thing you learned?
@@mikesuss9513 I had a private lesson with him once-he stressed a method of articulation where the only point of pressure in the face is on the embouchure, and the release of air drove the production of sound rather than forceful articulation if I recall correctly. Should be an effortless feeling. It’s been many years and I don’t know if I still have the notes but what an experience to have had
I came to his own house and stayed for an hour or two and played in his living room
I'll always cherish my times working with him at Roosevelt and hearing him - and everyone else - in the CSO so many times.
@@vcube1234I had one lesson with him and yes this is what I remember, as well as I asked to hear his buzz and it was so supple and soft like a dove
Jay is soo freaking underrated.. probably my favorite brass player right now ... and by right now, I mean stuff he did 30 plus years ago And This year.. the consistency of sound *especially the soft stuff* is on another level
I’m sorry, but Jay Friedman is one of the most respected trombonists in the world. He’s very appropriately rated according to how ability and achievement.
@@tromboneman4517 I watch a lot of videos and I read a LOT of comments And I never hear a top trombone player say ANYTHING about Jay Friedman *NOT ONCE*; His name never even comes up. Yeah you will hear comments about Jay in a video like this, Sure!! I'm asserting that he's The Best Ever... SOOO from MY standpoint he's way underrated. Not only that but you will hear a lot of BS about how JF can't play loud. There's proof positives ALL OVER TH-cam where he sounds spectacular playing loud.
There's an interview with Charlie Vernon in which the interviewer asserts that Joe Alessi is CLEARLY the Best Principal Trombone player in the World....
And I'm thinkin "Hey, Charlie, Say SOMETHING about Jay Friedman!!"
*nothing*
Do we really need to hear another uncontested crowning of Joe Alessi??
So this is me Contesting that assertion. I want to flipping hear people say that Jay Friedman is That Guy... because he really is...
The only guy who I hear consistently telling people who Jay Friedman REALLY IS??
Gene Pokorny Chicago's Great Tuba Player
I think that there is a great deal of JEALOUSY and REVISIONISM as it applies to Jay Friedman's Reputation. In truth, Jay Friedman is an absolute COLOSSUS
Oh look, another American who thinks America = the world.
Heaven on TH-cam. Glad I found it.
The recordings starting at 18:48, 25:35, 37:53, and 39:50 until the end is how brass is supposed to sound. "Like a pipe organ," as my youth orchestra conductor used to say. Such a shame I never got to see the CSO play with this brass section, otherwise I would've definitely taken up music sooner than I did.
this is the current low-brass section of the CSO!!! Principal is Jay, asst. is Mulcahy and bass is Charlie Vernon; all the same players in this video!!!!.
The Mozart at 11:03 is Adagio in B-flat major, K.411/484a
I would put this on my top ten best videos list
Spectacular! Gene Pokorny performed a solo concert with a local concert band! Incredible musician. I can't wait until the CSO Brass can perform again during the Midwest Band & Orchestra Clinic!
The last two excerpts, Bruckner and Mahler, are simply amazing!
The last one is Wagner, not Mahler, but yes is still amazing.
@@snojetsst9420 no it’s Mahler?
@@AOSMAKAKMS 43:13 is an except from the opening of Act III of Die Walküre, an opera by Richard Wagner,
It was an honour to live in that town and study with those guys.
A notable performance
I love the way Charlie fits into the bass role. Superb awareness and response.
Pure magic. Bravo Chicago low brass :-)
So awesome to see this recording of my professor Mick Mulcahy sounding SO damn good. Love hearing quintessential Chicago style!
Yes, its so soft and flexible both sound and phrasing. It seems like plays on a Bach in this recording. Do you know the spesifications?
Worth staying till the end. The Walkurie excerpt is awesome!
Glorious.
Mr. Friedman has great articulation. Thanks for the teaching example.
Orchestra Excerpts
Brahms Symphony No.4
35:50
Tchaikovsky Symphony No.6
37:50
Janacek Sinfonietta
38:50
Bruckner Symphony No.8
39:49
Mahler Symphony No.2
41:34
Wagner Walkurenritt
43:09
Like buttah! I’m getting vehklempt! Taughk amomst yaselves. I’ll give you a topic...”How do you perform when your only object is to give your listeners maximum pleasure?”. Bravo, guys.
Jay Friedman, utterly professional!
"What does the trombone sound like?"
"Yes"
Beautiful. Would love a list of the pieces and more Renaissance music.
The Debussy is glorious
Yo soy músico ejecutor de trombón tenor,pero así como el maestro Paganini me gusta rapidez en la ejecución gracias bendiciones
I LOVE the CSO! (Even though I got kicked out of a concert for snoring once when I was extremely tired.
FANTASTIC!!!
Thank you so much for uploading this gem
this is so beautiful!
4:08 Sublime
Divine
After seeing this I would never caution a trombonist for touching the bell when playing in 3rd slide position!
這應該是世界上最好的聲音之一了
The sound!!!!
what a gentleman is jay to allow michael to play the first part
It really shows what incredible musicians they both are, to be able to so seamlessly switch roles within their ensemble.
Probably also to not burn his face out.
Mike’s sound seems better as the lead line than Jay’s. You have to be experienced in brass ensembles to know it’s not a matter of being the best player, but creating the synergy.
My ears need a cigarette...
Make a glass of wine be enough! You wouldn't want your ears to smoke. (In Italy we use to say that ears smoke when you are being made fun of)
Sublime!
Doesn't get better than this.
Singing Bud style! No fear!
This is truly phenomenal.
Wow.
Fantastic🎉❤
Glorious!
Great sounds; I wish video was on high definition!
I'm sure they all took lessons and practiced a lot. All kidding aside, if you are a student, this is exactly the sort of playing you should spend some time listening to as you develop your own technique and musicality. Another difficult aspect is playing well in an ensemble. It is much different than solo work. You really have to learn to listen to the others you play with and learn to play as one.
“Listen” - that’s what separates the men from the boys (as they used to say) or if you prefer, the sheep from the goats (another old expression)
Does anyone know the source for the Mozart movement at 11:03?
39:49 and 43:10
That’s all I have to say
Haydn's st. Antoni Chorale 4:28
Something I love about this recording is how effortless the blend sounds. Even when Jay and Mick switch roles. It's hard to tell if Jay is playing on a straight large bore or a small tenor. Regardless, the sound is just so pure. Does anyone know where to find this sheet music? I might not be looking in the right places, but I've not been able to turn up much.
I would like to know myself. Btw, I'm quiet sure that Jay is playing on a large bore, due to the size of the bell and slide. My bet is Bach 42 with gold brass bell and nickel silver slide. .
They are playing standard orchestral excerpts. You can find them anywhere.
@@snojetsst9420 In the end, yes. But what about the reportoire they play before the orchestral excerpts?
The first selections are from "Four Transcriptions" by Osborn. The Pachelbell, Rheinburger, another Pachelbell chorale prelude and the St. Anthony chorale. I think the Let Me Weep is from a collection by Allen Ostrander.
41:35
Anyone know when/where this was recorded? I'm guessing mid-1990's. Beautiful sound quality for an old video transfer!
True didn’t even think to appreciate how beautiful this sounds
Not to be disrespectful, but can we tell by Charlie Vernon’s hair?
Whenever it was - truly as good as it gets! People who are used to playing together like this can really make amazing music.
It was recorded in Japan
I studied from Mr Vernon 1992/93 and this must be before that.
looks likely this was on their April, 1990 tour while in Japan
18:51
It seems like Mike plays on a Bach 42 with Thayer valve. Anyone who knows more about the spesifications? Gold brass or yellow brass, heavy weight light weight or regular bell?
Yellow bell, light - unlacquered tuning slide - LT50 slide
@hugosaavedra do you have the original recording of this by any chance? My dad is in this and I'd love to have the opportunity to own a copy.
Vincent Bach sound!
I love my Bach bass trombone!
7:04
oh my Gosh!
Ok just to mention a question. Is it possible to accent without the attack sounding like “wah”?
Love
Is Jay Friedman still playing trombone with the Chicago Symphony at age 85?
Yes. This is his last season.
This video should be dedicated to Frank Crisafulli, Doug Edelman, Eric Carlson, David Finlayson, Dave Read, Paul Welcomer, Rick Stout, Kari Sundstrom and of course Mick Mulcahy and many others for reasons that I won’t elaborate on here.
I'm guessing great orchestral trombone players who usually never get to show us how great they really are .. because they are not typically playing first trombone parts ..
@@rickdynes Historically speaking, every great low brass section has an exceptional 2nd trombonist in the middle of it. It almost doesn’t matter how great (or especially famous) the other components of the section are- if a low brass section doesn’t have a 2nd player with a great sound that fills the gap between the more brilliant sounding principal and the bigger, warmer, more resonant bass, great ears and great musical instincts in the middle of it, it just won’t ever sound truly great.
For me.
41:37
What‘s the Song at 7:07 called?
I think it’s let me weep by Handel
@@johnnyquest9519 from Rinaldo
@@MrMalwade correct. From Rinaldo by Handel 💪🏼💪🏼
"Lascia ch'io pianga" to Rinaldo by Haendel
Great ! Is this available on DVD ?
僕に寄る奴らゼロ運動、ってどう？😊❤❤
レントより遅く、ありがとうございます❤❤プレストより速くって曲作られれば？
Somebody can tell me age this record?
stupid question, what trombone is Mr. Friedman using? It appears to be a straight tenor but that's all I know.
MV42G
Please send the sheet music for the first piece: Choral prelude Pacheibel
Stoltenberg Trail
Chicago Symphony Orchestra Language and Chandana Nimal Sepala Pranayama Yoga Breathing Help Human Rights
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That year its records?
Nice, Mr. Mulcahy ... put your stand in front of Mr. Friedman's bell.....no one will notice him!
What kind of ignorant, classless comment is this?
Haag Greens
Can you blame conductors for asking for too much sometimes?
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Beautiful full sound. They sound like a large quire. This is a bad thing. We don’t want orchestras to keep thinking 3 trombones is enough.😂 Are any of these guys related?
39分
52秒
you call that low brass
なっが
Beautiful playing! One one spot, they break the phrase in Lascia Ch'io Pianga in a different place than vocalists do, which is distracting...
7:05
25:34