Learn something new about the KA24DE engines! Lets chat about them.
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- Learn something new about the KA24DE engines! Lets chat about them. In this video we visit @dashbuilt to get schooled on KA24DE stuff. He has been drifting a KA engine for more than 10 years in Lone Star Drift Texas events. He has run a single cam setup, a dual cam setup, NA and turbo. Somehow he keeps together a KA with 600 lb of torque, so he probably knows what he is doing!
In the video he also claims he would do it all over again if he has the chance, no V8 LS1 or 2JZ! That was a bit surprising, and a testament to how much he must really love his setup.
Thanks for chatting with us Spencer!
I appreciate how he kept the zenki front end.
The best front
@@MrFoulksy real drift guys run zenkis, "fanboys" and people who really don't care for the sport/brand like Koukis. I love Koukis just as much as the next guy, but Zenki's are wayyy more appealing
@@jacobwebb8818 Zenkis look like retarded R32s.
@@jacobwebb8818fanboys and people who dont care for the sport/brand like Kouki's? What a statement.
Zenki gang. Lol i love my lazy looking front end.
Aaron I have been building these engines and doing this professionally for years and this video makes me really happy. Thank you for doing this and showing all the kids at home what a viable engine and platform these can be.
im that kid at home, im going to build my 240 so im trying to learn the most i can about it
Hello I have a ka24de 5speed tranny, but is on a 98frontier truck, is it the same engine this guys talking about?
Raul G BEARDED hey they are similar but not the same
BEARDED G In case you’re still wondering, your engine is the same with the exception that you have a 9.2:1 compression ratio as opposed to the 9.5:1 seen in all 240sx variants. Your engine should have the same potential as I’m about to find out for better or worse by sticking one in a s14 I am about to purchase. Nothing better than financial suicide! A turbo frontier would be a really unique build though.
J Albert I’m trying to learn as much as possible about this platform so I can purchase a local 240 for sale very soon. I was wondering if you have any insight into the mechanical differences between the factory 9.5:1 and 9.2:1 compression ratio engines?
I'm 17 and I was recently handed down a 240sx with a s14 KA24 swap. I'm thankful I have uncles and friends who own a 240sx. I dont have to worry about where I need to get my information. To all new 240sx owners, good luck!
God dammit now the prices for ka’s are gonna sky rocket😭
Not a chance
Lmao glad I bought a couple before It posted
David McNeil still have any laying around?
Report the video I need more ka engine at home
My 2000 altima has a ka not sure exactly which one but it’s a 2.4L
Extremely Interesting and relevant thanks Aaron!!
Awesome to know a K tuned throttle body as a option. I've had a few leaky ka TBs and been using a sr TB for a while. Going over PCV system/catch can setup was helpful too, I've seen it routed a few different ways. Good info boys! KA FTW!
Na ka sub 200hp is doable and sound great if you dont have an annoying exhaust. I love them, but more for spirited driving. My favorite honda build was a nonvtec LS that put down 176whp. We had it in an 89 4 door civic. Full suspension with azenis at 65psi. That car was scarey fun.
great video aaron… really loved this!
400whp ka-t with a cd009 must be a blast to drive .... i built one 5y ago but was on a stock trans and owner went through 4 tof them in one summer hahahahah
poor little transmissions
What do you suggest to do about the valve shims, I’m scared they will be spitting out
Hey, do you have any info on that A/C machine at the beginning of the video??
So I have this same engine, can I put turbo on it?
Oh yes
IM ONLY 3 MINS IN I CANT TELL IF THIS DUDE IS FUCKING WITH ME
Fun fact: All KAs found in the cars had blocks casted in Japan. All the truck engines were casted in Mexico for the most part
Also the truck motors don't have a crank girdle and I believe no oil squirters. S-chassis KA's are the strongest variation made
The Ka24de in the 240 is not a truck motor. It’s a factory stroker 4 bangin monster that haunts sr’s in their nightmares. Just playing. Love those 2. Just because it had the same displacement as a Nissan truck engine. I’ve heard they put vq’s in minivans.
@@sdshakazulu4268 Technically it is a motor that is in a truck, so yes its a truck motor per say but the 240s KA is better and being a truck motor isn't a bad thing.
awesomecooly123 .. I agree.. I like lm7s lq4,9 etc. peace fellow motorhead
J.C. Kohle ... mmm.. maybe he turned off his spellcheck to practice. JK
screw it. a 250-300hp KAT sounds fun.
or a K20/K24 boosted to 500+ (stock block) 🤔
@@QuBaTiOn you can make 500 from a stock KA block
Better than sr
@@jacobkeagy5680 full stock internals like a k20 though?
@@qwertyobsjcj yes lol, those lil iron block KAs are bulletproof
I appreciate these types of videos. Learning about any sort of engine intrigues me.
Same
KA’s get a bad wrap for no reason. Mad respect and great info ✊🏽
No there's a reason these young drift nuts buy a 240, beat that crap out of it then spread bad information "ahh my motor blew it sucks' no it's a stock motor you beat like a rally car what you'd expect ... I been threw it just didn't blame the ka, shot a rod outta na dually blew na single and melted a piston on a single now running a single on 20 pounds unbalanced
Great little motors. SUPREME pain in the🍑 to wrench on, but amazing all the same. I'd love to give a few of the engineers the ol' Benny Hill style forehead slap at times, but, yeah...
Mind you, I'm speaking as a Gen2 Altima guy.
I love these high quality info engine videos that comes from experience from owners and specialists so thank you
Finally... I love my KA-T. 226whp/246lbs/tq with an eBay T25. I just put a gt2871r on it, converting it to speed density next week (Nismotronic SA)
Have you driven with the GT2871 yet? I'm thinking about buying a GTX2871 or GTX 3071 with Stainless T25 Turbine housing. How is the spool up on the 2871? And yours is journal bearing? I'm looking for something that has almost unnoticeable spool up. Thanks in advance!
Is it just a noname t25? or did you buy a used oem t25 from ebay?
HOW MUCH PSi!!!
This is perfect i just got a ka s14 couple weeks ago
If you are by SAC area i can go side ways with you man.
Me too!
Me as well. I traded my b16 civic for a 95 240sx. Motor was ticking like a bomb... atleast it was able to drive into my garage ... coolant everywhere so full teardown is what I'm thinking
@@jasonkmvang sr swap
@@ImaDjentleman also a very viable option as well! My power goals for now are low so I can get a feel for the rwd chassis.
As a owner of a fully built KA-T with a standalone, I approve this video and all the information. Parts and cost are pretty much on point. Great job!
How has your's been over the long haul?
hows it been
Sounds like it's easier to do an SR20 swap, higher initial cost, but probably it'll end up being cheaper.
Sr20 is a sweet little engine. I see why it’s always a thought. Easy swap. I’ll just say the 240sx is a great car. Many options for anything. I’m surprised no one converted it to fwd for a b series yet.
Cant say that other than all the mods you might do wiring is an obstacle
I can do the wiring if some does the fab
@@sdshakazulu4268 or ka no Fab or wiring just the regular go fast parts
I think he mentioned many sr20 being clapped out due to age. It's a 20-30 year old engine and will likely need a refresh. Especially if you plan to drive it hard.
No wonder why forsberg retain the KA-T(Matt powers Pro Am power plant) on his “missile car”.
That was great, I listened to it at work like a podcast. Valuable info that not everyone is happy to share! Keep on shredding dudes
Of you jump the intake cam 1 tooth on the chain
you change the powerband of a ka. Instead of running out of steam at 5k rpm it will pull hard to 7k. I found this out 20yrs ago
Advanced?
Will it run for more than a couple weeks tho?
Altima ka exhaust cam with the sprocket keyway ground out 1/2 tooth. The skip the sprocket 3 teeth cww. Pulls great
@@sdshakazulu4268 it changed the whole attitude of your engine right
@@samlcyo2 yes
This was such a fun video to watch! The level of detail Spencer knows about KA's is crazy! I loved hearing him explain the different stage builds you can do, and in a quick and simple way too.
No clips of him rippin this thing????. Love these videos about the technical advances and pros v. Cons of popular engines, very informative.
Plenty of vids on my channel
I’m building a KA with eagle h beam connecting rods
Weisco 9:5:1 pistons
Clevit bearings
Cometic head gasket
Bc valves and springs
But I’m looking for a good engine management can you give me some pointers
Looks like stock comp ratio...Are you planning on boost? I'm ready to pull my KA from my Datsun 510 for a rebuild. I' shooting for a strong NA, stage 2 build that could handle a medium power turbo in the future. Trying to create a build list...
What transmission is behind it? Stock ka 5speed? Also what diff
Z32 trans and stock diff with lsd
He's right about the longer stroke... My KA-T seems to never hit redline because it runs out of steam after 5500rpm. I think redline is 7.2k? Even with my gt2871r I don't really need to hit redline unless I'm drag racing the straight before initiating. All my power band is 2.8k - 5.5k
The half weighted crank does play a role but I believe it’s because of the intake manifold design
I’ve tossed around the idea of taking the bottom half of the manifold off and putting a universal plenum straight on the upper section while shaping the left over runners into velocity stacks. Put an oversized tb on as well. Point is the stock manifold is for midrange. Loosing the bottom manifold will shorten the runners by like 4inches or so, moving the powerband higher. But I’m by no means an engineer.
What size cams are you running?
@@davidmcneil645 stock cams (96 KA, forged internals)
David McNeil
I’m using oem 248 exhaust cam from a Altima Ka24de on the intake side
Just found this channel..You look like a mix of Scott Manley ( Science youtuber) and Matt Damon...Dope video, new sub here
Will this fit in my z31? I'm wanting to get rid of the ls and put one of these in there with a turbo even if it makes less power boost is what I want in my life
I had a buddy in highschool Sr swap his 240
He gave me the ka that was in the car and I swapped in in to a Chevy luv
I still have that luv with that power plant and it's amazing
lolol
I love your content !
That's fuckin dope man
4 years since this video was made, but it was still an interesting watch and a lot of what Spencer said is still true today. If anything prices have gotten significantly crazier since then... I wish I could pick his brain and get a blueprint on the perfect 1.5 level motor that he mentions near the end of the video. I currently have an S13 with a stock KA, and I'd like to get the car into the 250-300 HP range, but do I go for that 1.5 level upgrade path, or do I swap to something like a K24? SRs and other traditional swaps have gotten really expensive, and while I could technically afford to put in one of the more traditional swaps, I'm not sure if I want to sink that much money into this car which means my choices are limited. I'm nearly done with the bodywork so I won't be able to keep putting the decision off forever unless I wanna stay stock.
These engines came in Nissan small pickups in the Middle East, and they are quite good and very popular because of the reliability. we had the pickup since 2003 and now it has 416k miles without a single issue, when i went to Thailand in 2011 i saw so many after-market parts for KA24DE since it is widely used, maybe you should look into Thailand market since they have been modding this engine for a long time
loved this! deff would like to see more of these types of videos. It helps people understand more about a particular engine instead of car forum hearsay, what works, what doesnt, what it's capable of and all that. 10/10
I finally made the time to assemble a megasquirt DIYPNP for my D21. Looking forward to putting some boost to my ka24e.
where can we get the that coil harness set up ,, awesome video i can't believe i watch the entire video 😅😃😃😃😃👍👍👍👍
Look up nicetime racing
He said handicap of an engine. If you don't like it cool stick with your LS. Don't hate on it. That's why we have choices and it's personal preference. That's a beast of an engine bro. Mad props 💪
Why do we have MAF in the first place when a MAP does the same thing but doesn't break or burn out? Seriously I want to start a conversation about this
manny s if you are running a turbo setup, you really want a MAF. Although some cars have both
MAF is always better tho
The reason is MAF's(hot wire) correlate more variables with atmospheric conditions then MAP sensors do, like altitude, barometric pressure, and temperature. A big problem with MAP is say you tune your engine a 500 feet above sea level and you take your car up a mountain or any other place at a different atmospheric pressure the tune will be off.
While speed density is simple it is still a calculated value for volume using of pv=nrt vs MAF which gets this directly.
Barometric correction is not much of an issue and many oem's take care of this with either an additional pressure sensor or taking a reading koeo
Go megasquirt
The only reason I built my KA is because you still have to buy the same parts when doing an SR swap but you have to buy the SR. The KA is included and gives me an extra $2500+ for build parts. Still going since 2009 with no regrets.
Super glad they mentioned the surge tank upgrade! I've had a KA-T for about a year now and bleeding the cooling system has always been an issue until I installed the swirl tank. Definitely a must do for cooling upgrades.
To add on to the severity. I almost thought I had a blown head gasket but after doing further diagnosis I realized the engine could have had constant air pockets that never bled properly. Swirl pot ftw.
@@SuperDanman90 old comment but im seriously having this EXACT issue. 500 miles on forged build.
JGS log, T3/T04E 50 trim .63 ar, XSPower IC setup, Z32 maf - draw through and on Enthalpy tune (when Scott was the owner). This was 2007.....
How did you like it?
THIS IS INFO AT ITS FINEST!!!! LOVE IT GUYS KEEP UP THE WORK FOR US KA24'S
You say better, but all I hear is richer....parts availability is where its at.
Great history lesson great appreciation about the KA24DE! Thanks.
i would REALLY LIKE TO KNOW how I could go about a honda k24/20 into the hardbody with my trans
I have a 97 Altima with the ka24dea in it and basically looking for like a stage one turbo setup to get about 210hp and stay reliable for daily driving.
I own a stock 96 ka 240sx with 100k which still runs great but need a new shell before I can start my build
Shout out to the ka-t boys
“I’m here to interview this guy”
*cuts him off constantly and answers his own questions*
KA ALL DAY
I had a Ka24E-T that was way overbuilt for my power level. loved it.
I put 18psi on my ka24e single cam on e85 making 300hp stock internals
th-cam.com/video/BiCVE2zY-X4/w-d-xo.html
Several years back there was a company making a supercharger kit for the ka that used a S/c off of the nissan pathfinder. Any opinions on that? Its not very common but for a person like me who enjoys the feel of linear torque from the na stand point, the S/c kit would be the way to go IF it is/was obtainable.
That option isn’t that great and is kinda pointless due to a variety of reasons, such as super charger size, cooling the air, brackets, etc. easier to just turbo the car with available quality aftermarket parts. Unless you are just really into that or something, avoid that idea.
Here’s something I think Aron would like the idea of, Honda offers a drop in crate civic type r motor at a reasonable price. It’s $6700 for a complete engine with the turbo and $9000 for the complete engine with a wire-ring harness and ecu. For an engine that stock makes 300hp and can easily make 350 with just a tune it might make sense for a simple seat time car instead of adding a turbo to a 10-20 year old k20 /k24
Fix the American flag on your wall.
Thanks Doug, it's been fixed.
Question: will a KA-24 be good for an reliable everyday day? . I want to put it in a 94 hardbody...nothing fancy just to get me around but a little more power than what it has now... your feedback would be much appreciated
Ive got a KA24DE in my 03 Frontier, 5 speed. Pretty good for a 4cyl, always wanted to turbo it!
KA > SR (except SR22VE)
Haven't searched your videos. But am curious if you have any insight in a supercharged ka24de? I know they have/had a knights supercharge kit at one point. Came with an adapter plate, wiring, flash kit, injectors, and an Xterra M62 Eaton supercharger. ... I've looked into it, have searched online for a trashed xterra in search of a 2nd hand supercharger. But to no prevail. Just not interested in spending 2500 for the kit.
If u have any info on this, I'd love to hear it!
36 of these viewers own SR engines
Thanks for sharing. I have been considering K24 swap. But if it ain't broke don't fix it.
You can have my KA, I\m putting the built stroked 2.7L BMW M20 in my D21. I'm not a fan of the hydraulic lifters, even after having a built head.
I have loved KA's for a long time and turbod one back in 2012 which is amazingly still running today. Dyno'd at 550whp but I also build the block and heads so not really a budget build. Have always stood behind these engines and for my abusive driving and carelessness with my own cars, they have stood up to the beating amazingly well. Love this video, love the car and the build. I love that hat too no lie. Where can I buy one? xD
Awesome work!
Did I miss it or did he mention any drivetrain stuff? I assume he's using a white bunny size clutch setup and is he still stock trans and diff?
White bunny Competition clutch, z32 trans, stock diff with 1.5lsd
@@spencermarvdashtipour3615 awesome, thanks for the knowledge dump man
22min
This is a dream come true😭
I was wondering if anyone know what is the best engine oil to use for thi KA24DE?
Thank youu
Do this but talk about vqs 😁
You just leave them stock lol!
@@LoneStarDrift true 😁
@@LoneStarDrift facts!
The vq30det no one ever does those
best thing ive ever heard, KAs arent bad just poor owners
dont forget ka24det also can get 1100 cc stock inside feed injectors from a company called " five o "
Those are terrible injectors, out of 20mormso we bought they had a 25 percent failure rate within 1 year, which is insane for injectors
um...I have a few of these. and sr20s. KA's are super fun. None of these things have been a problem for me with my timing component upgrades. You can always make a stronger engine if you are a machinist.
KA gang!!! I myself have blew up a few KA’s after turbo’ing them, but that was due to lack of proper ECU management (Stock ECU w/ SAFC. T25 turbo, stock internals). I was actually debating on swapping over to SR but decided to stick with the KA, but with proper management this time. I’ve went with Nismotronic, and currently in the process of putting in another KA. This time it’s a freshly built motor with forged rods & pistons and BC valvetrain with ZERO miles on it. A friend was building it to throw in his s14 but he found an SR for a good deal before he could even run the car so he sold it to me for cheap. Subscribe to my channel for updates!!! Very good informational video though guys, respect!
My KA swap 510 is due for a rebuild! ...Might just go NA stage 2 with the option for a smaller turbo in future... no low comp pistons. The current KA is still strong but the noisy valves and stock injectors aren't playing well with my 300ZX fuel pump anymore!
What transmission is the car running?
I was hoping there would be comparisons between the recent to market Tomei turbo set up to the ISR and the Full Race mani
What are your questions about it?
@@LoneStarDrift So I know a few yrs ago Tomei started to produce and release KA turbo parts like they have been for SR motors. Considering I learned fullrace makes a turbo mani for the KA as pointed out in this video and its highly recommended I was thinking in that moment how the Tomei compares in price, performance and how well designed overall it is to the full race.
Need an oil block for the ka ... skullworks dont make them anymore ... someone as a replacement to skullwork
This is sick…keeping my ka24 in my hatch and all this information is super useful thanks bro🔥
I love the KA building one now for an s13
Cited this in my essay about KA vs SR. Thanks guys
I learned so much about my engine mad respect to this guy I wish I was as knowledgeable as he is.
Shouts out to Martin!
I appreciate this video
Been thinking on doing an KA swap on a Porsche 944 or 924S. Reliable power for sure
Very realistic i love how he lay everything in excel sheet then goes further how it lead him to the decision❤
God bless Texas
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22:00
5:47 great segway
Boom, would you say that's accurate? BAM!!
Its a bald Mark Walburg
Looks more like Matt Damon than Marky Mark
I can tell you alot about the Z24 engine. I drove one 300k miles. Very good engine aside from the smog crap and carb.
I have a z24 its done like 80k miles 158klm first old car ive ever owned with no drips is it worth playing with or keep on this ka sr path im heading
lol why does this look like grenscreen
You guys have sold me. Gonna turbo the KA
A level Design & Technology exam tomorrow hopefully this gives me some cool ideas :)
The Ka24de from a 98 frontier any different from a 240sx ka? I will like to have around 300-320.
I have one too. Did he reply
Anyone know what fan that is?
It's a single c5 corvette fan. Look into mishi race fans for something similar.
Wish he would said what size turbo for the first 22/250 build
Any T2 frame turbo. S15 T28 would be my first choice.
Just ask Keegan. The Ka-t expert...
Very nice information in this video
Snapple real fact #69 :
The KA is a shit motor.
Question. So basically KA24E and KA24DE can use the same bottom end parts?
Pistons and rods can be used interchangeably. Though the same piston will offer a different compression ratio when used, because of the difference in cylinder head. For example: a ka24de 10:1 piston will produce 9:1 in a ka24e. Rod and main bearings are the same, though cranks are slightly different. Hope that helps!
ok can someone give me a straight answer will any rwd ka24de work in my s13 i cant find a s13 ka only frontier or pathfinder
I'm probably too late but the truck KAs are very different than the ones in the 240sx