@@MrFoulksy real drift guys run zenkis, "fanboys" and people who really don't care for the sport/brand like Koukis. I love Koukis just as much as the next guy, but Zenki's are wayyy more appealing
The Ka24de in the 240 is not a truck motor. It’s a factory stroker 4 bangin monster that haunts sr’s in their nightmares. Just playing. Love those 2. Just because it had the same displacement as a Nissan truck engine. I’ve heard they put vq’s in minivans.
@@sdshakazulu4268 Technically it is a motor that is in a truck, so yes its a truck motor per say but the 240s KA is better and being a truck motor isn't a bad thing.
Aaron I have been building these engines and doing this professionally for years and this video makes me really happy. Thank you for doing this and showing all the kids at home what a viable engine and platform these can be.
BEARDED G In case you’re still wondering, your engine is the same with the exception that you have a 9.2:1 compression ratio as opposed to the 9.5:1 seen in all 240sx variants. Your engine should have the same potential as I’m about to find out for better or worse by sticking one in a s14 I am about to purchase. Nothing better than financial suicide! A turbo frontier would be a really unique build though.
J Albert I’m trying to learn as much as possible about this platform so I can purchase a local 240 for sale very soon. I was wondering if you have any insight into the mechanical differences between the factory 9.5:1 and 9.2:1 compression ratio engines?
No there's a reason these young drift nuts buy a 240, beat that crap out of it then spread bad information "ahh my motor blew it sucks' no it's a stock motor you beat like a rally car what you'd expect ... I been threw it just didn't blame the ka, shot a rod outta na dually blew na single and melted a piston on a single now running a single on 20 pounds unbalanced
Great little motors. SUPREME pain in the🍑 to wrench on, but amazing all the same. I'd love to give a few of the engineers the ol' Benny Hill style forehead slap at times, but, yeah... Mind you, I'm speaking as a Gen2 Altima guy.
Have you driven with the GT2871 yet? I'm thinking about buying a GTX2871 or GTX 3071 with Stainless T25 Turbine housing. How is the spool up on the 2871? And yours is journal bearing? I'm looking for something that has almost unnoticeable spool up. Thanks in advance!
This was such a fun video to watch! The level of detail Spencer knows about KA's is crazy! I loved hearing him explain the different stage builds you can do, and in a quick and simple way too.
Super glad they mentioned the surge tank upgrade! I've had a KA-T for about a year now and bleeding the cooling system has always been an issue until I installed the swirl tank. Definitely a must do for cooling upgrades.
To add on to the severity. I almost thought I had a blown head gasket but after doing further diagnosis I realized the engine could have had constant air pockets that never bled properly. Swirl pot ftw.
Of you jump the intake cam 1 tooth on the chain you change the powerband of a ka. Instead of running out of steam at 5k rpm it will pull hard to 7k. I found this out 20yrs ago
He said handicap of an engine. If you don't like it cool stick with your LS. Don't hate on it. That's why we have choices and it's personal preference. That's a beast of an engine bro. Mad props 💪
loved this! deff would like to see more of these types of videos. It helps people understand more about a particular engine instead of car forum hearsay, what works, what doesnt, what it's capable of and all that. 10/10
These engines came in Nissan small pickups in the Middle East, and they are quite good and very popular because of the reliability. we had the pickup since 2003 and now it has 416k miles without a single issue, when i went to Thailand in 2011 i saw so many after-market parts for KA24DE since it is widely used, maybe you should look into Thailand market since they have been modding this engine for a long time
I'm 17 and I was recently handed down a 240sx with a s14 KA24 swap. I'm thankful I have uncles and friends who own a 240sx. I dont have to worry about where I need to get my information. To all new 240sx owners, good luck!
The only reason I built my KA is because you still have to buy the same parts when doing an SR swap but you have to buy the SR. The KA is included and gives me an extra $2500+ for build parts. Still going since 2009 with no regrets.
Me as well. I traded my b16 civic for a 95 240sx. Motor was ticking like a bomb... atleast it was able to drive into my garage ... coolant everywhere so full teardown is what I'm thinking
I had a buddy in highschool Sr swap his 240 He gave me the ka that was in the car and I swapped in in to a Chevy luv I still have that luv with that power plant and it's amazing
Sr20 is a sweet little engine. I see why it’s always a thought. Easy swap. I’ll just say the 240sx is a great car. Many options for anything. I’m surprised no one converted it to fwd for a b series yet.
I think he mentioned many sr20 being clapped out due to age. It's a 20-30 year old engine and will likely need a refresh. Especially if you plan to drive it hard.
I've been in the KA-T world for 12+ years. Stepped away for the past 5 but now just getting back into one, its the one I helped my dad build while I still had mine. It is a GT2871R/550/N62 car. Part of the reason I got rid of my last car was because it was too racecar. I'm going to keep this one a fun Sunday driver, and couldn't agree more that they're fun around that 300hp range. A lot of good info in this video!
Here’s something I think Aron would like the idea of, Honda offers a drop in crate civic type r motor at a reasonable price. It’s $6700 for a complete engine with the turbo and $9000 for the complete engine with a wire-ring harness and ecu. For an engine that stock makes 300hp and can easily make 350 with just a tune it might make sense for a simple seat time car instead of adding a turbo to a 10-20 year old k20 /k24
Awesome to know a K tuned throttle body as a option. I've had a few leaky ka TBs and been using a sr TB for a while. Going over PCV system/catch can setup was helpful too, I've seen it routed a few different ways. Good info boys! KA FTW!
Thank you for this video! I've been wanting to restore my 1986 Nissan Datsun D21 pickup for years now. It has the z24 engine in it, and I've been debating whether to do a KA24 swap, or an LS swap. This video made up my mind! I'm aiming for the 250-300HP range, and when you mentioned that I can get that power level, on stock internals, running pump gas, you had me sold!!
I have a 97 Altima with the ka24dea in it and basically looking for like a stage one turbo setup to get about 210hp and stay reliable for daily driving.
4 years since this video was made, but it was still an interesting watch and a lot of what Spencer said is still true today. If anything prices have gotten significantly crazier since then... I wish I could pick his brain and get a blueprint on the perfect 1.5 level motor that he mentions near the end of the video. I currently have an S13 with a stock KA, and I'd like to get the car into the 250-300 HP range, but do I go for that 1.5 level upgrade path, or do I swap to something like a K24? SRs and other traditional swaps have gotten really expensive, and while I could technically afford to put in one of the more traditional swaps, I'm not sure if I want to sink that much money into this car which means my choices are limited. I'm nearly done with the bodywork so I won't be able to keep putting the decision off forever unless I wanna stay stock.
I have loved KA's for a long time and turbod one back in 2012 which is amazingly still running today. Dyno'd at 550whp but I also build the block and heads so not really a budget build. Have always stood behind these engines and for my abusive driving and carelessness with my own cars, they have stood up to the beating amazingly well. Love this video, love the car and the build. I love that hat too no lie. Where can I buy one? xD Awesome work!
I have love for the KA24DE because they’re slow but torquey like the Toyota 3S-GE and 5S-FE. My friends and I were rockin these engines in the 90’s before we could afford 3S-GTE’s and SR20DET’s. Good times and fun races.
so much good info in this video. thank you so much for putting this up. I've been running around in circles trying to figure out what to do with my 240. I'm pretty new to all of this.
Back in the day, you get an s13 redtop SR for the price of turbo kit for a KA. Lots of people thought the KA was an ugly engine. Like mentioned in this video, aftermarket was none existent for this platform. Fast forward to now a days, 4K + for an SR. You can build a very strong KA short block for that price.
Thanks for all the information. I'm building one for my 1991 240sx. The majority of my 240s have been SRs or RBs. This will be my first KA24DE-T, wish me luck. 🤪😂
Quite informative. KAs don't get much love, but it's amazing how some people and smaller companies are doing aftermarket parts for these engines. Something that should've been mentioned is the durability and stresses the factory parts can handle before they fail. It's been suggested in Facebook pages that the stock rods can handle plenty of power before failing (stock pistons would fail first). How much RPM the stock crankshaft can handle before secondary harmonics start to become a problem. I was surprised the stock oiling system is that good, with no need of an SR style aftermarket oil pan. No mention of windage trays or oil scrapers, though. I want to make a KA-DET with the Tomei turbo kit. I'd love to get my hands on a Nissan Motorsports side draft intake manifold for turbo ITB setup, but it's most likely discontinued and a rare part to find. Since it will be for a street car, it will see an occasional drag/circuit run or two. Would love to get more into this platform in order to make safe reliable power without going overboard, using OEM and aftermarket parts. If anyone can suggest me where to get the help for that, it would be much appreciated. Thanks for proving that the KA isn't "just a truck engine". Its lineage can be traced back to the L engines, and that particular engine architecture was inspired by a Mercedes-Benz inline engine. So we can say the KA has some pedigree in it's design.
As much as a turbo build would be cool, i just got done with my Dual sidedrafts on my Single cam and i love it, tuning is another subject but the sound and simplicity of it is amazing.. Been driving this truck for 15 years and as many problems ive had with mafs, ecus, and harness issues, I think having a 2 wire ignition and some beautiful webers on the side is well worth it
What manifold are you running? I know Nissan Motorsports offered one for the E and DE versions of the KA, but it's most probably discontinued and a rare piece.
@@JoseRivera-ym3wj its a custom intake.. Runners are from xcessivemanufacturing with a weber plate.. its a 2 piece set up i.imgur.com/JiEj4pg.jpg this is what i got .. Volvo s40 electric power steering, l20b dizzy, GM HEI ignition module for an ignitor and a custom billet dizzy mount
He's right about the longer stroke... My KA-T seems to never hit redline because it runs out of steam after 5500rpm. I think redline is 7.2k? Even with my gt2871r I don't really need to hit redline unless I'm drag racing the straight before initiating. All my power band is 2.8k - 5.5k
I’ve tossed around the idea of taking the bottom half of the manifold off and putting a universal plenum straight on the upper section while shaping the left over runners into velocity stacks. Put an oversized tb on as well. Point is the stock manifold is for midrange. Loosing the bottom manifold will shorten the runners by like 4inches or so, moving the powerband higher. But I’m by no means an engineer.
Ive been running dual cam KAs since 2008-9ish. Only had oem headgasket failure and one spun rod bearing. I had a single cam- my first 240 ever, back in 2006, the timing chain guide was so worn that the chain wore a whole in the water pump, and flooded the oil pan with coolant and locked the motor up. Didnt know what had happened, 16 year old at that time. But yea, Idk what power I have but its plenty to drift and super reliable. Dual Cam with light weight pullys, light weight fly wheel. I only run one belt, No power steering. Used turbo off a duramax? lol ebay manifold and fmi. oem everything, i use a FMU and with oem fuel regulator. No Tune. Maybe some day I can afford some kind of tune, and dyno. Im at 7 psi of boost. In order to run more, need a tune, injectors, pump.
um...I have a few of these. and sr20s. KA's are super fun. None of these things have been a problem for me with my timing component upgrades. You can always make a stronger engine if you are a machinist.
400whp ka-t with a cd009 must be a blast to drive .... i built one 5y ago but was on a stock trans and owner went through 4 tof them in one summer hahahahah
Na ka sub 200hp is doable and sound great if you dont have an annoying exhaust. I love them, but more for spirited driving. My favorite honda build was a nonvtec LS that put down 176whp. We had it in an 89 4 door civic. Full suspension with azenis at 65psi. That car was scarey fun.
Nice car just like my old 240. The zenki headlights look a bit yellow; some of those headlight cleaning kits really make it look like new! Highly improves the look.
My friend has a built twin cam KA that was fully built in 2010 w/a ford Mustang throttle body and he had been killing sr20det ever since I told him it's like a chevy guy pulling out a 454 cid and swapping in a 305 cid he is very glad he listened the car is still running today
What I didn't hear either of you say is that everything you do to make NA power is going to increase your gains per PSI when you go to forced induction.
Will this fit in my z31? I'm wanting to get rid of the ls and put one of these in there with a turbo even if it makes less power boost is what I want in my life
I have a KA24DE in a 2002 Nissan Frontier. I am looking for a good coolant hose schematic. I have replaced the radiator hoses, but I want to locate the routing for the heater hoses and related small hose connections.
Ka is a fun motor.. to bad the aftermarket is lacking.. but it’s fun to make things for it.. always one off.. I used to sauce this thing with a 150 wet shot on a single fogger.. better than slugging a can of monster.
@@LoneStarDrift So I know a few yrs ago Tomei started to produce and release KA turbo parts like they have been for SR motors. Considering I learned fullrace makes a turbo mani for the KA as pointed out in this video and its highly recommended I was thinking in that moment how the Tomei compares in price, performance and how well designed overall it is to the full race.
Thanks for the very informative and great video! I'm really interested in his choice on keeping the OEM intake manifold. He mentioned there are no options that have been proven to make the same power curve as the OEM, especially in the low end range. I've always considered the Xcessive Engineering manifold to be a great option; but I'm really surprised to hear it really is not an improvement? Would love to hear more of yours or Spencer's opinion on this!
It's pretty simple that the stock runner length is much longer and will make better mid and low range. Plus, you couldn't pay me to put another xcessive part on my car. If I ever end up over 600, I'll probably make something.
Spencer Marvdashtipour solid man! I have your full spread sheet also haha you’ve sent it to me while back! Seen you on this video like yup! Spencer’s the right guy to spread the KA knowledge!
Im sure Paeco can replicate the imsa spec stuff. They were the only ones selling an NA 300hp package KA for $3300-3500 iirc. I would've loved to buy one of those when i had one of my 9 S13's!
Why do we have MAF in the first place when a MAP does the same thing but doesn't break or burn out? Seriously I want to start a conversation about this
The reason is MAF's(hot wire) correlate more variables with atmospheric conditions then MAP sensors do, like altitude, barometric pressure, and temperature. A big problem with MAP is say you tune your engine a 500 feet above sea level and you take your car up a mountain or any other place at a different atmospheric pressure the tune will be off.
While speed density is simple it is still a calculated value for volume using of pv=nrt vs MAF which gets this directly. Barometric correction is not much of an issue and many oem's take care of this with either an additional pressure sensor or taking a reading koeo
Several years back there was a company making a supercharger kit for the ka that used a S/c off of the nissan pathfinder. Any opinions on that? Its not very common but for a person like me who enjoys the feel of linear torque from the na stand point, the S/c kit would be the way to go IF it is/was obtainable.
That option isn’t that great and is kinda pointless due to a variety of reasons, such as super charger size, cooling the air, brackets, etc. easier to just turbo the car with available quality aftermarket parts. Unless you are just really into that or something, avoid that idea.
I appreciate how he kept the zenki front end.
The best front
@@MrFoulksy real drift guys run zenkis, "fanboys" and people who really don't care for the sport/brand like Koukis. I love Koukis just as much as the next guy, but Zenki's are wayyy more appealing
@@jacobwebb8818 Zenkis look like retarded R32s.
@@jacobwebb8818fanboys and people who dont care for the sport/brand like Kouki's? What a statement.
Zenki gang. Lol i love my lazy looking front end.
Fun fact: All KAs found in the cars had blocks casted in Japan. All the truck engines were casted in Mexico for the most part
Also the truck motors don't have a crank girdle and I believe no oil squirters. S-chassis KA's are the strongest variation made
The Ka24de in the 240 is not a truck motor. It’s a factory stroker 4 bangin monster that haunts sr’s in their nightmares. Just playing. Love those 2. Just because it had the same displacement as a Nissan truck engine. I’ve heard they put vq’s in minivans.
@@sdshakazulu4268 Technically it is a motor that is in a truck, so yes its a truck motor per say but the 240s KA is better and being a truck motor isn't a bad thing.
awesomecooly123 .. I agree.. I like lm7s lq4,9 etc. peace fellow motorhead
J.C. Kohle ... mmm.. maybe he turned off his spellcheck to practice. JK
Aaron I have been building these engines and doing this professionally for years and this video makes me really happy. Thank you for doing this and showing all the kids at home what a viable engine and platform these can be.
im that kid at home, im going to build my 240 so im trying to learn the most i can about it
Hello I have a ka24de 5speed tranny, but is on a 98frontier truck, is it the same engine this guys talking about?
Raul G BEARDED hey they are similar but not the same
BEARDED G In case you’re still wondering, your engine is the same with the exception that you have a 9.2:1 compression ratio as opposed to the 9.5:1 seen in all 240sx variants. Your engine should have the same potential as I’m about to find out for better or worse by sticking one in a s14 I am about to purchase. Nothing better than financial suicide! A turbo frontier would be a really unique build though.
J Albert I’m trying to learn as much as possible about this platform so I can purchase a local 240 for sale very soon. I was wondering if you have any insight into the mechanical differences between the factory 9.5:1 and 9.2:1 compression ratio engines?
I appreciate these types of videos. Learning about any sort of engine intrigues me.
Same
KA’s get a bad wrap for no reason. Mad respect and great info ✊🏽
No there's a reason these young drift nuts buy a 240, beat that crap out of it then spread bad information "ahh my motor blew it sucks' no it's a stock motor you beat like a rally car what you'd expect ... I been threw it just didn't blame the ka, shot a rod outta na dually blew na single and melted a piston on a single now running a single on 20 pounds unbalanced
Great little motors. SUPREME pain in the🍑 to wrench on, but amazing all the same. I'd love to give a few of the engineers the ol' Benny Hill style forehead slap at times, but, yeah...
Mind you, I'm speaking as a Gen2 Altima guy.
screw it. a 250-300hp KAT sounds fun.
or a K20/K24 boosted to 500+ (stock block) 🤔
@@QuBaTiOn you can make 500 from a stock KA block
Better than sr
@@jacobkeagy5680 full stock internals like a k20 though?
@@qwertyobsjcj yes lol, those lil iron block KAs are bulletproof
I love these high quality info engine videos that comes from experience from owners and specialists so thank you
As a owner of a fully built KA-T with a standalone, I approve this video and all the information. Parts and cost are pretty much on point. Great job!
How has your's been over the long haul?
hows it been
Finally... I love my KA-T. 226whp/246lbs/tq with an eBay T25. I just put a gt2871r on it, converting it to speed density next week (Nismotronic SA)
Have you driven with the GT2871 yet? I'm thinking about buying a GTX2871 or GTX 3071 with Stainless T25 Turbine housing. How is the spool up on the 2871? And yours is journal bearing? I'm looking for something that has almost unnoticeable spool up. Thanks in advance!
Is it just a noname t25? or did you buy a used oem t25 from ebay?
HOW MUCH PSi!!!
This was such a fun video to watch! The level of detail Spencer knows about KA's is crazy! I loved hearing him explain the different stage builds you can do, and in a quick and simple way too.
God dammit now the prices for ka’s are gonna sky rocket😭
Not a chance
Lmao glad I bought a couple before It posted
David McNeil still have any laying around?
Report the video I need more ka engine at home
My 2000 altima has a ka not sure exactly which one but it’s a 2.4L
Super glad they mentioned the surge tank upgrade! I've had a KA-T for about a year now and bleeding the cooling system has always been an issue until I installed the swirl tank. Definitely a must do for cooling upgrades.
To add on to the severity. I almost thought I had a blown head gasket but after doing further diagnosis I realized the engine could have had constant air pockets that never bled properly. Swirl pot ftw.
@@SuperDanman90 old comment but im seriously having this EXACT issue. 500 miles on forged build.
Of you jump the intake cam 1 tooth on the chain
you change the powerband of a ka. Instead of running out of steam at 5k rpm it will pull hard to 7k. I found this out 20yrs ago
Advanced?
Will it run for more than a couple weeks tho?
Altima ka exhaust cam with the sprocket keyway ground out 1/2 tooth. The skip the sprocket 3 teeth cww. Pulls great
@@sdshakazulu4268 it changed the whole attitude of your engine right
@@samlcyo2 yes
That was great, I listened to it at work like a podcast. Valuable info that not everyone is happy to share! Keep on shredding dudes
He said handicap of an engine. If you don't like it cool stick with your LS. Don't hate on it. That's why we have choices and it's personal preference. That's a beast of an engine bro. Mad props 💪
I learned so much about my engine mad respect to this guy I wish I was as knowledgeable as he is.
I had a Ka24E-T that was way overbuilt for my power level. loved it.
THIS IS INFO AT ITS FINEST!!!! LOVE IT GUYS KEEP UP THE WORK FOR US KA24'S
loved this! deff would like to see more of these types of videos. It helps people understand more about a particular engine instead of car forum hearsay, what works, what doesnt, what it's capable of and all that. 10/10
Great history lesson great appreciation about the KA24DE! Thanks.
These engines came in Nissan small pickups in the Middle East, and they are quite good and very popular because of the reliability. we had the pickup since 2003 and now it has 416k miles without a single issue, when i went to Thailand in 2011 i saw so many after-market parts for KA24DE since it is widely used, maybe you should look into Thailand market since they have been modding this engine for a long time
I'm 17 and I was recently handed down a 240sx with a s14 KA24 swap. I'm thankful I have uncles and friends who own a 240sx. I dont have to worry about where I need to get my information. To all new 240sx owners, good luck!
Very realistic i love how he lay everything in excel sheet then goes further how it lead him to the decision❤
The only reason I built my KA is because you still have to buy the same parts when doing an SR swap but you have to buy the SR. The KA is included and gives me an extra $2500+ for build parts. Still going since 2009 with no regrets.
This is perfect i just got a ka s14 couple weeks ago
If you are by SAC area i can go side ways with you man.
Me too!
Me as well. I traded my b16 civic for a 95 240sx. Motor was ticking like a bomb... atleast it was able to drive into my garage ... coolant everywhere so full teardown is what I'm thinking
@@jasonkmvang sr swap
@@ImaDjentleman also a very viable option as well! My power goals for now are low so I can get a feel for the rwd chassis.
No wonder why forsberg retain the KA-T(Matt powers Pro Am power plant) on his “missile car”.
I finally made the time to assemble a megasquirt DIYPNP for my D21. Looking forward to putting some boost to my ka24e.
Cited this in my essay about KA vs SR. Thanks guys
Ive got a KA24DE in my 03 Frontier, 5 speed. Pretty good for a 4cyl, always wanted to turbo it!
I had a buddy in highschool Sr swap his 240
He gave me the ka that was in the car and I swapped in in to a Chevy luv
I still have that luv with that power plant and it's amazing
lolol
I love your content !
That's fuckin dope man
Sounds like it's easier to do an SR20 swap, higher initial cost, but probably it'll end up being cheaper.
Sr20 is a sweet little engine. I see why it’s always a thought. Easy swap. I’ll just say the 240sx is a great car. Many options for anything. I’m surprised no one converted it to fwd for a b series yet.
Cant say that other than all the mods you might do wiring is an obstacle
I can do the wiring if some does the fab
@@sdshakazulu4268 or ka no Fab or wiring just the regular go fast parts
I think he mentioned many sr20 being clapped out due to age. It's a 20-30 year old engine and will likely need a refresh. Especially if you plan to drive it hard.
Really appreciate the KA history lesson to get into the topic. Props, fellas.
No clips of him rippin this thing????. Love these videos about the technical advances and pros v. Cons of popular engines, very informative.
Plenty of vids on my channel
I've been in the KA-T world for 12+ years. Stepped away for the past 5 but now just getting back into one, its the one I helped my dad build while I still had mine. It is a GT2871R/550/N62 car. Part of the reason I got rid of my last car was because it was too racecar. I'm going to keep this one a fun Sunday driver, and couldn't agree more that they're fun around that 300hp range. A lot of good info in this video!
JGS log, T3/T04E 50 trim .63 ar, XSPower IC setup, Z32 maf - draw through and on Enthalpy tune (when Scott was the owner). This was 2007.....
How did you like it?
quick 5- 10 sec clip of this thing sliding at the end be the cherry on top... you went on about the sound... would've loved to hear it...sick build!!!
Here’s something I think Aron would like the idea of, Honda offers a drop in crate civic type r motor at a reasonable price. It’s $6700 for a complete engine with the turbo and $9000 for the complete engine with a wire-ring harness and ecu. For an engine that stock makes 300hp and can easily make 350 with just a tune it might make sense for a simple seat time car instead of adding a turbo to a 10-20 year old k20 /k24
I ran a fbo ka for about 10yrs using 245 tires. Super fun setup. Now im 1jz 🤙🏼
This is sick…keeping my ka24 in my hatch and all this information is super useful thanks bro🔥
Such an insightful video, gotta love the Zenki
Thanks for sharing. I have been considering K24 swap. But if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Awesome to know a K tuned throttle body as a option. I've had a few leaky ka TBs and been using a sr TB for a while. Going over PCV system/catch can setup was helpful too, I've seen it routed a few different ways. Good info boys! KA FTW!
Thank you for this video! I've been wanting to restore my 1986 Nissan Datsun D21 pickup for years now. It has the z24 engine in it, and I've been debating whether to do a KA24 swap, or an LS swap. This video made up my mind! I'm aiming for the 250-300HP range, and when you mentioned that I can get that power level, on stock internals, running pump gas, you had me sold!!
I have a 97 Altima with the ka24dea in it and basically looking for like a stage one turbo setup to get about 210hp and stay reliable for daily driving.
4 years since this video was made, but it was still an interesting watch and a lot of what Spencer said is still true today. If anything prices have gotten significantly crazier since then... I wish I could pick his brain and get a blueprint on the perfect 1.5 level motor that he mentions near the end of the video. I currently have an S13 with a stock KA, and I'd like to get the car into the 250-300 HP range, but do I go for that 1.5 level upgrade path, or do I swap to something like a K24? SRs and other traditional swaps have gotten really expensive, and while I could technically afford to put in one of the more traditional swaps, I'm not sure if I want to sink that much money into this car which means my choices are limited. I'm nearly done with the bodywork so I won't be able to keep putting the decision off forever unless I wanna stay stock.
I have loved KA's for a long time and turbod one back in 2012 which is amazingly still running today. Dyno'd at 550whp but I also build the block and heads so not really a budget build. Have always stood behind these engines and for my abusive driving and carelessness with my own cars, they have stood up to the beating amazingly well. Love this video, love the car and the build. I love that hat too no lie. Where can I buy one? xD
Awesome work!
I have love for the KA24DE because they’re slow but torquey like the Toyota 3S-GE and 5S-FE. My friends and I were rockin these engines in the 90’s before we could afford 3S-GTE’s and SR20DET’s.
Good times and fun races.
so much good info in this video. thank you so much for putting this up. I've been running around in circles trying to figure out what to do with my 240. I'm pretty new to all of this.
Back in the day, you get an s13 redtop SR for the price of turbo kit for a KA. Lots of people thought the KA was an ugly engine. Like mentioned in this video, aftermarket was none existent for this platform. Fast forward to now a days, 4K + for an SR. You can build a very strong KA short block for that price.
Extremely Interesting and relevant thanks Aaron!!
Thanks for all the information. I'm building one for my 1991 240sx. The majority of my 240s have been SRs or RBs. This will be my first KA24DE-T, wish me luck. 🤪😂
Quite informative. KAs don't get much love, but it's amazing how some people and smaller companies are doing aftermarket parts for these engines.
Something that should've been mentioned is the durability and stresses the factory parts can handle before they fail. It's been suggested in Facebook pages that the stock rods can handle plenty of power before failing (stock pistons would fail first). How much RPM the stock crankshaft can handle before secondary harmonics start to become a problem. I was surprised the stock oiling system is that good, with no need of an SR style aftermarket oil pan. No mention of windage trays or oil scrapers, though.
I want to make a KA-DET with the Tomei turbo kit. I'd love to get my hands on a Nissan Motorsports side draft intake manifold for turbo ITB setup, but it's most likely discontinued and a rare part to find. Since it will be for a street car, it will see an occasional drag/circuit run or two.
Would love to get more into this platform in order to make safe reliable power without going overboard, using OEM and aftermarket parts. If anyone can suggest me where to get the help for that, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks for proving that the KA isn't "just a truck engine". Its lineage can be traced back to the L engines, and that particular engine architecture was inspired by a Mercedes-Benz inline engine. So we can say the KA has some pedigree in it's design.
I love the KA building one now for an s13
You guys have sold me. Gonna turbo the KA
As much as a turbo build would be cool, i just got done with my Dual sidedrafts on my Single cam and i love it, tuning is another subject but the sound and simplicity of it is amazing.. Been driving this truck for 15 years and as many problems ive had with mafs, ecus, and harness issues, I think having a 2 wire ignition and some beautiful webers on the side is well worth it
What manifold are you running? I know Nissan Motorsports offered one for the E and DE versions of the KA, but it's most probably discontinued and a rare piece.
@@JoseRivera-ym3wj its a custom intake.. Runners are from xcessivemanufacturing with a weber plate.. its a 2 piece set up
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this is what i got .. Volvo s40 electric power steering, l20b dizzy, GM HEI ignition module for an ignitor and a custom billet dizzy mount
He's right about the longer stroke... My KA-T seems to never hit redline because it runs out of steam after 5500rpm. I think redline is 7.2k? Even with my gt2871r I don't really need to hit redline unless I'm drag racing the straight before initiating. All my power band is 2.8k - 5.5k
The half weighted crank does play a role but I believe it’s because of the intake manifold design
I’ve tossed around the idea of taking the bottom half of the manifold off and putting a universal plenum straight on the upper section while shaping the left over runners into velocity stacks. Put an oversized tb on as well. Point is the stock manifold is for midrange. Loosing the bottom manifold will shorten the runners by like 4inches or so, moving the powerband higher. But I’m by no means an engineer.
What size cams are you running?
@@davidmcneil645 stock cams (96 KA, forged internals)
David McNeil
I’m using oem 248 exhaust cam from a Altima Ka24de on the intake side
Ive been running dual cam KAs since 2008-9ish. Only had oem headgasket failure and one spun rod bearing. I had a single cam- my first 240 ever, back in 2006, the timing chain guide was so worn that the chain wore a whole in the water pump, and flooded the oil pan with coolant and locked the motor up. Didnt know what had happened, 16 year old at that time. But yea, Idk what power I have but its plenty to drift and super reliable. Dual Cam with light weight pullys, light weight fly wheel. I only run one belt, No power steering. Used turbo off a duramax? lol ebay manifold and fmi. oem everything, i use a FMU and with oem fuel regulator. No Tune. Maybe some day I can afford some kind of tune, and dyno. Im at 7 psi of boost. In order to run more, need a tune, injectors, pump.
um...I have a few of these. and sr20s. KA's are super fun. None of these things have been a problem for me with my timing component upgrades. You can always make a stronger engine if you are a machinist.
400whp ka-t with a cd009 must be a blast to drive .... i built one 5y ago but was on a stock trans and owner went through 4 tof them in one summer hahahahah
poor little transmissions
Na ka sub 200hp is doable and sound great if you dont have an annoying exhaust. I love them, but more for spirited driving. My favorite honda build was a nonvtec LS that put down 176whp. We had it in an 89 4 door civic. Full suspension with azenis at 65psi. That car was scarey fun.
where can we get the that coil harness set up ,, awesome video i can't believe i watch the entire video 😅😃😃😃😃👍👍👍👍
Look up nicetime racing
Been thinking on doing an KA swap on a Porsche 944 or 924S. Reliable power for sure
36 of these viewers own SR engines
Just found this channel..You look like a mix of Scott Manley ( Science youtuber) and Matt Damon...Dope video, new sub here
Nice car just like my old 240. The zenki headlights look a bit yellow; some of those headlight cleaning kits really make it look like new! Highly improves the look.
I appreciate this video
dont forget ka24det also can get 1100 cc stock inside feed injectors from a company called " five o "
Those are terrible injectors, out of 20mormso we bought they had a 25 percent failure rate within 1 year, which is insane for injectors
My friend has a built twin cam KA that was fully built in 2010 w/a ford Mustang throttle body and he had been killing sr20det ever since I told him it's like a chevy guy pulling out a 454 cid and swapping in a 305 cid he is very glad he listened the car is still running today
What transmission is behind it? Stock ka 5speed? Also what diff
Z32 trans and stock diff with lsd
I own a stock 96 ka 240sx with 100k which still runs great but need a new shell before I can start my build
“I’m here to interview this guy”
*cuts him off constantly and answers his own questions*
Sick! I'm picking up a ka t s14 this weekend!
Andrew Savard I’m picking up u🗿
Shout out to the ka-t boys
What I didn't hear either of you say is that everything you do to make NA power is going to increase your gains per PSI when you go to forced induction.
Aaron thank you for this quality video!
Boom, would you say that's accurate? BAM!!
I love my KA! In my 69 Datsun 2000! Fun car and easy set up. Non-turbo for now though..
great video aaron… really loved this!
Super dope video give me motivation on my s14 build
Will this fit in my z31? I'm wanting to get rid of the ls and put one of these in there with a turbo even if it makes less power boost is what I want in my life
I put 18psi on my ka24e single cam on e85 making 300hp stock internals
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I have a KA24DE in a 2002 Nissan Frontier. I am looking for a good coolant hose schematic. I have replaced the radiator hoses, but I want to locate the routing for the heater hoses and related small hose connections.
A level Design & Technology exam tomorrow hopefully this gives me some cool ideas :)
So energetic lmao, he wasn't ready
might be picking up a built KA24DE ready for turbo s13 hatch, its bonestock other than the engine lol cant wait!!!!
I can tell you alot about the Z24 engine. I drove one 300k miles. Very good engine aside from the smog crap and carb.
I have a z24 its done like 80k miles 158klm first old car ive ever owned with no drips is it worth playing with or keep on this ka sr path im heading
Southern Drift did a build doc on a KA turbo build and it's a cool build that falls right into this cat.
Ka is a fun motor.. to bad the aftermarket is lacking.. but it’s fun to make things for it.. always one off..
I used to sauce this thing with a 150 wet shot on a single fogger.. better than slugging a can of monster.
I was hoping there would be comparisons between the recent to market Tomei turbo set up to the ISR and the Full Race mani
What are your questions about it?
@@LoneStarDrift So I know a few yrs ago Tomei started to produce and release KA turbo parts like they have been for SR motors. Considering I learned fullrace makes a turbo mani for the KA as pointed out in this video and its highly recommended I was thinking in that moment how the Tomei compares in price, performance and how well designed overall it is to the full race.
best thing ive ever heard, KAs arent bad just poor owners
I wish there was more info on CA's. Thank you for this video.
It's a KA not CA...
STRONG HIGHBRID I’m aware.
@@r4ng3k03r1 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I ran ca18 det on a t28 550cc injectors, z32 maf with rb20 coilpacks. It was a *FREAK*
i wanna swap my 240sx to a CA18DET but as a college student its not worth the price to be unique when i can turbo the KA
Good stuff man , i still have a stand by stock ka 240 around
Thanks for the very informative and great video! I'm really interested in his choice on keeping the OEM intake manifold. He mentioned there are no options that have been proven to make the same power curve as the OEM, especially in the low end range. I've always considered the Xcessive Engineering manifold to be a great option; but I'm really surprised to hear it really is not an improvement? Would love to hear more of yours or Spencer's opinion on this!
It's pretty simple that the stock runner length is much longer and will make better mid and low range. Plus, you couldn't pay me to put another xcessive part on my car. If I ever end up over 600, I'll probably make something.
@@spencermarvdashtipour3615 Makes sense, thank you. Probably saved me a couple hundred I can put elsewhere 👍
Spencer is the man !!!
Thanksss
Spencer Marvdashtipour solid man! I have your full spread sheet also haha you’ve sent it to me while back! Seen you on this video like yup! Spencer’s the right guy to spread the KA knowledge!
Haha, I forgot I'd sent you one!
Im sure Paeco can replicate the imsa spec stuff. They were the only ones selling an NA 300hp package KA for $3300-3500 iirc. I would've loved to buy one of those when i had one of my 9 S13's!
Why do we have MAF in the first place when a MAP does the same thing but doesn't break or burn out? Seriously I want to start a conversation about this
manny s if you are running a turbo setup, you really want a MAF. Although some cars have both
MAF is always better tho
The reason is MAF's(hot wire) correlate more variables with atmospheric conditions then MAP sensors do, like altitude, barometric pressure, and temperature. A big problem with MAP is say you tune your engine a 500 feet above sea level and you take your car up a mountain or any other place at a different atmospheric pressure the tune will be off.
While speed density is simple it is still a calculated value for volume using of pv=nrt vs MAF which gets this directly.
Barometric correction is not much of an issue and many oem's take care of this with either an additional pressure sensor or taking a reading koeo
Go megasquirt
Okay your videos are awesome, sound clip or video would set it off!
i would REALLY LIKE TO KNOW how I could go about a honda k24/20 into the hardbody with my trans
Thank you so much for this video! Helps out a ton!!!
Thanks for watching!
Several years back there was a company making a supercharger kit for the ka that used a S/c off of the nissan pathfinder. Any opinions on that? Its not very common but for a person like me who enjoys the feel of linear torque from the na stand point, the S/c kit would be the way to go IF it is/was obtainable.
That option isn’t that great and is kinda pointless due to a variety of reasons, such as super charger size, cooling the air, brackets, etc. easier to just turbo the car with available quality aftermarket parts. Unless you are just really into that or something, avoid that idea.