aaah..... actually..... some one told me "The 1919 Black Sox Scandal" happened over a hundred years ago! is this right!!?! it wasn't a World Series that took place two or three World Serieses ago, or even the last time Cincinnati played in a World Series!!?! maybe we should talk more about Pete Rose (just so we don't let him into the Hall of Fame)! I did read, though, after Rose was released from prison, that he was such a model prisoner, that they retired his number.
Joe Jackson did not play bad he played just as good as he always did that was the tragedy of the story is that Joe Jackson took the blame even though he didn't have anything to do with it. Joe Jackson was innocent he had never talked to the people who are rigging it he wasn't a part of it but yet when it came time to kick people out they kicked him out too even though he was innocent. That's the tragedy of the story is that Joe Jackson did not do anything wrong.
Jackson was reported to have received a bribe and kept the money. Weaver, though he refused to tank the WS, still had knowledge of the fix. To Judge Landis’s way of thinking, not reporting knowledge of the fix made Weaver and Jackson complicit in the fix. That’s logic that is hard to argue with. It was a tragedy for all parties. There were no winners. The White Sox were in the wilderness for 40 years, 1959. Sounds sorta Biblical. They didn’t win a WS until 2005, their first since 1917.
After this, the ONE thing players could not do was gamble on the teams. You could be an alcoholic (and many were), a drug addict, a thief, anything! Just don't gamble on games. Everybody knew this. But apparently, some people thought they were so good, they were above the rules. I'm looking at the late Pete Rose.
Yea, the risk is not worth it. If you look at the recent NBA example of Johntay Porter, he was making more money just being on the bench. The fact that he jeopardized his career for only a few extra thousand dollars is just not worth it.
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame. He was great before all this happened. And did get paid for it. 😢And make a little bit of money. Because the Owners don't want to pay up.
Every one of those players should have their names cleared, how about the frigging owners who all should’ve been thrown in jail for what they were doing to the game of baseball or all sports teams owners, they all colluded to basically rip all the players off. I have no problem with what those guys did. Comiskey was a horrible person and Owner. He had the best team in baseball and they were the worst paid and even back in those days he was probably still making millions of dollars off those guys
I'd sooner watch these guys, even as cheats, rather than today's players. The game has changed so much, ballparks now becoming amusement parks and restaurants, rule changes to accommodate short attention spans, coddled players with pitch counts limited to five innings, tops. Break a nail, and out for the season. Unrelateable King's ransom salaries, ticket prices requiring taking out a second mortgage, with nearly every seat commanding a premium (if you're close enough to see the infield, that's extra), pay tv and radio, double header? Pay again to see the second game. Loved baseball when I was a kid, but now it's rare to see a kid even playing the game.
It would be helpful to turn off the music so that I can hear your message, you are excluding a large segment of hearing-impaired viewers. Very offensive to us.
To be clear, that is not intentional. Sorry you are having a hard time. The music is low as possible to allow for you to hear the narrator which is the more important part. Please do not assume we are "purposely" trying to make things difficult. We cater to everyone and not just one specific group. Whether hearing impaired or not. The music adds to the video as I don't know of any TH-cam video that does NOT have some kind of music. But to turn it off would be catering to a small group as opposed to our entire audience.
Five minutes into the video I couldn't continue. Too much repetition, music too loud, Artificial Ignorance voice saying 'point' when mentioning batting averages and too much repetition (that I did deliberately). Good Luck with your next video.
He did accept 5k...but did he really know what he was doing? Did he have a choice? (outside pressures) He played like he wanted to win. I think Joe should be in the Hall.
This video just repeats the same lies from 8 Men Out. Eddie Cicotte was not benched to stop him from getting 30 wins, he had 2 starts after he got his 29th win and was bombed in one start and pulled early from the other. It takes 1 minute to look up facts, its just laziness.
Thats not research if you only looked for 1 minute . And you call us lazy? Its mentioned in multiple occasions. But you're right no one is still alive to confirm. But you know more because you were there right?
aaah.... actually.... Rose had his chance and chances to be re-instated. after his banishment from MLB, part of the terms of his argument stated he could re-apply for instatement, which he did. it was rejected again. PLUS, for nine years after his banishment from MLB, he refuted the charges that he bet on Major League Baseball. he continued his gambling, and ran up soooh much debt, that he sold all his trophies and awards and replaced them with counterfeits. this still did not relieve his debt, so he sold illegal drugs. when caught, this sent him to prison. after his release, he continued to apply for re-instatement at the appointed times. when a new more leanient Commissioner was elected, Rose re-appled for re-instatement. EVERYONE THOUGHT Rose WAS GOING TO BE RE-INSTATED! but when Rose was asked if he still bet on baseball, he said, "Yes I do." then the Commissioner said, "Mr Rose, I don't think you realize the seriousness of the charges against you." and Pete Rose never again applied for re-instatement. all Pete Rose had to do was just say, "No" and he would have been re-instated, AND easily would have been elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame. instead, he took 'the low road', and is forever banished from baseball.
With gambling sites sponsoring major sports, does anyone believe these performances are still legitimate?
Great question. I also question this at times. It's like the leagues now control how these players perform.
@Universal_History_Facts I used to love any form of North American football. At this point, I can barely stomach watching an NFL game.
Yes
It's hard to bribe a guy making 40 million a year
@dirtbag3736 doesn't that depend on who is coughing up the 40?
@michaelmartz8426 The teams are paying them. So if Garrit Cole has 250 million guaranteed what would he ask to blow a game? A billion?
1:50 "an astonishing point 351" who talks baseball like that?
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Nice info video
Thank you!
No one says, "Point three-five-one," when referring to batting average. Please.
Sure
Exactly, that really pissed me off too!
@@Universal_History_Facts it is 375 not point three seven five. that really Pissed me off.
This video offered absolutely zero stuff we didn't already know. And no, neither guy should be allowed in the Hall.
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If comiskey wasn't so cheap they never would fixed the series
aaah..... actually..... some one told me "The 1919 Black Sox Scandal" happened over a hundred years ago! is this right!!?! it wasn't a World Series that took place two or three World Serieses ago, or even the last time Cincinnati played in a World Series!!?! maybe we should talk more about Pete Rose (just so we don't let him into the Hall of Fame)! I did read, though, after Rose was released from prison, that he was such a model prisoner, that they retired his number.
Joe Jackson did not play bad he played just as good as he always did that was the tragedy of the story is that Joe Jackson took the blame even though he didn't have anything to do with it.
Joe Jackson was innocent he had never talked to the people who are rigging it he wasn't a part of it but yet when it came time to kick people out they kicked him out too even though he was innocent.
That's the tragedy of the story is that Joe Jackson did not do anything wrong.
Definitely a tragedy
Jackson couldn’t read…
…but he could count. He was expecting to get a payout.
So was Buck Weaver.
Jackson was reported to have received a bribe and kept the money.
Weaver, though he refused to tank the WS, still had knowledge of the fix.
To Judge Landis’s way of thinking, not reporting knowledge of the fix made Weaver and Jackson complicit in the fix.
That’s logic that is hard to argue with. It was a tragedy for all parties. There were no winners. The White Sox were in the wilderness
for 40 years, 1959. Sounds sorta Biblical. They didn’t win a WS until 2005, their first since 1917.
Clueless Joe Jackson. He guilty of being ignorant
After this, the ONE thing players could not do was gamble on the teams. You could be an alcoholic (and many were), a drug addict, a thief, anything! Just don't gamble on games. Everybody knew this. But apparently, some people thought they were so good, they were above the rules. I'm looking at the late Pete Rose.
Yea, the risk is not worth it. If you look at the recent NBA example of Johntay Porter, he was making more money just being on the bench. The fact that he jeopardized his career for only a few extra thousand dollars is just not worth it.
It's the biggest sin in sports, bar none. Rose knew it.
Everybody Raves about AI yet all I see are really stupid mistakes! Night lights in 1919???
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Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame. He was great before all this happened. And did get paid for it. 😢And make a little bit of money. Because the Owners don't want to pay up.
😅the Reds had a better record in 1919.
They probably were not the first or last professional team to be bought out by the underworld.
You're probably right!
Every one of those players should have their names cleared, how about the frigging owners who all should’ve been thrown in jail for what they were doing to the game of baseball or all sports teams owners, they all colluded to basically rip all the players off. I have no problem with what those guys did. Comiskey was a
horrible person and Owner. He had the best team in baseball and they were the worst paid and even back in those days he was probably still making millions of dollars off those guys
Dicky Kerr!!!
When Vegas calls, the teams listen. Now there getting payed more than deserve, and they can't win for sh t. Next year get some little league players.
😂😂
"point 2-9-6"?????
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AI?!!
I'd sooner watch these guys, even as cheats, rather than today's players. The game has changed so much, ballparks now becoming amusement parks and restaurants, rule changes to accommodate short attention spans, coddled players with pitch counts limited to five innings, tops. Break a nail, and out for the season. Unrelateable King's ransom salaries, ticket prices requiring taking out a second mortgage, with nearly every seat commanding a premium (if you're close enough to see the infield, that's extra), pay tv and radio, double header? Pay again to see the second game.
Loved baseball when I was a kid, but now it's rare to see a kid even playing the game.
Would have been better without the too loud, unnecessary background music
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It would be helpful to turn off the music so that I can hear your message, you are excluding a large segment of hearing-impaired viewers. Very offensive to us.
To be clear, that is not intentional. Sorry you are having a hard time. The music is low as possible to allow for you to hear the narrator which is the more important part.
Please do not assume we are "purposely" trying to make things difficult. We cater to everyone and not just one specific group. Whether hearing impaired or not.
The music adds to the video as I don't know of any TH-cam video that does NOT have some kind of music. But to turn it off would be catering to a small group as opposed to our entire audience.
Five minutes into the video I couldn't continue. Too much repetition, music too loud, Artificial Ignorance voice saying 'point' when mentioning batting averages and too much repetition (that I did deliberately). Good Luck with your next video.
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Wait...is this about the 2024 Yankees???
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cin.96-44 better team
He did accept 5k...but did he really know what he was doing? Did he have a choice? (outside pressures) He played like he wanted to win. I think Joe should be in the Hall.
This video just repeats the same lies from 8 Men Out. Eddie Cicotte was not benched to stop him from getting 30 wins, he had 2 starts after he got his 29th win and was bombed in one start and pulled early from the other. It takes 1 minute to look up facts, its just laziness.
Thats not research if you only looked for 1 minute . And you call us lazy? Its mentioned in multiple occasions. But you're right no one is still alive to confirm. But you know more because you were there right?
AI garbage
You can always skip and not watch. Especially if it's not for you.
Why is it AI garbage?
Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose deserve enshrinement into the MLB’s Hall of Fame.
Agreed!
aaah.... actually.... Rose had his chance and chances to be re-instated. after his banishment from MLB, part of the terms of his argument stated he could re-apply for instatement, which he did. it was rejected again. PLUS, for nine years after his banishment from MLB, he refuted the charges that he bet on Major League Baseball. he continued his gambling, and ran up soooh much debt, that he sold all his trophies and awards and replaced them with counterfeits. this still did not relieve his debt, so he sold illegal drugs. when caught, this sent him to prison. after his release, he continued to apply for re-instatement at the appointed times. when a new more leanient Commissioner was elected, Rose re-appled for re-instatement. EVERYONE THOUGHT Rose WAS GOING TO BE RE-INSTATED! but when Rose was asked if he still bet on baseball, he said, "Yes I do." then the Commissioner said, "Mr Rose, I don't think you realize the seriousness of the charges against you." and Pete Rose never again applied for re-instatement. all Pete Rose had to do was just say, "No" and he would have been re-instated, AND easily would have been elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame. instead, he took 'the low road', and is forever banished from baseball.