About the "same gender attraction" theory: My thoughts on it aren't necessarily that your gender attraction shifts when you transition because you're used to being attracted to the same gender, I think it's more the thing you mentioned about feeling more comfortable. I'm FTM and I have for a long time been confused about my sexuality. Mostly straight but I guess I could be open for guys or anyone else. As I reflected on this more, I came to the realisation that the reason I do not wish to date guys now is because I'm scared I would be the "girl" in the relationship, as I haven't yet transitioned. Because I don't always pass as male, I'm afraid I'd be given the more female role, and that the other guy would not see me as male. I think I'll be more comfortable dating a guy after I've started my transition, as I'm more confident I'd be seen as a boy. In the meantime, I'm just gonna be my self-conscious and dysphoric self, mainly being with girls because then I know I'll be the more masculine in the relationship for sure. Thought this could be interesting. Love you guys!
OMG. I have a really similar feeling about dating guys. For all my life until now, I turned down all the guys that tried to date me. Even if I really liked them back. I just couldn't stand the idea of being seeing as a "girl" by them. Like it would literally make me feel sick. Realizing what made me feel uncomfortable was actually one of the things that helped me discover I was a trans man.
My partner and I met online, he's a cis gay man and when we met I identified as a quiggly bisexual woman. Lately, what's really helped me figure out I'm a trans guy is the fact that, though our relationship is...platonic...but like...soulmate platonic....whatever, it didn't seem to matter if I was a girl or a boy Except obviously being trans and knowing that someday we actually want to BE together in real life and start a family it makes me nauseous thinking about having to do that as a woman. Not so much because I feel invalidated by him because he is amazing. But because it would kill me to have others look at us and see a cis straight couple, because being queer is such a huge part of my identity whenever I say 'my partner' and then use masculine pronouns I also want to add 'but we really gay tho' I don't even like talking to him voice to voice or face to face because I just don't want it to be a person I don't see myself as. I don't want others to see it either. /depression
I am flamboyantly gay. I'm also a trans guy. I'm a trans guy who is sexually attracted to other guys. I wish this wasn't an "issue" that has to be specified.
Pidge Holt I think the issue might be that a lot of cis gay guys might be transphobic, so the dating pool might be smaller, im a pansexual cis male dating a gay trans guy and I've been told this by him
Nick rockz If the guy is a top, I don't think he will care about the lack of a penis. Me and my friends who are tops, we don't really care about (besides our own), so...
A lot of gay men I've met who are tops still won't sleep with a trans guy because we're "not real men" to them, all because we weren't born with a penis. Good on you for not caring, by the way. I mean it.
I kind of understand them, because it is something not everybody is prepared. I asked in a group, on my fb, what they think about it, and some of the straight dudes feel attracted to ftm. But it seems some people are not actually attracted to a gender(cis or trans), but to a genital more than the person. And I have some friends who are bottom and doesn't have problem with it. And on the internet, I found a guy who dates another guy, but he does not think he's gay, because he said to be in love with the person, even though he does not like penises.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those case-by-case basis things. Like in my case, for example. I consider myself gay because I'm only sexually attracted to penis and only emotionally attracted to guys in 99% of cases. That 1% exception would be my wife, who I met before she realized she was MtF. I didn't leave her when she came out because she was still the same person I had fallen in love with two years before. Despite being married to someone who identifies as female, I still consider myself gay because of the kinds of people I'm attracted to.
Chera I’m ftm and I’m pan and one day this guy came up to me and asked “if you dated a girl, would it be gay” and I was kinda ready to punch him but he’s also kinda my friend so I just told him no It’s annoying when people think that just because I was born female they have to use female pronouns and say I’m in a gay relationship if I date a girl Sorry for the rant lol
before I came out, I was attracted to men and didn't like women, but now that I'm out I've realized that I wasn't attracted to boobs and being feminine because of my hated for my own boobs and feminine body. So I decided I was Androsexual, so I'm attracted to masculinity wether it's male, female, or in-between.
I'm a transman and in a gay relationship with another gay transman and have been for nearly two years, and both at the start of our transitions. :) I love your vids with chaseypoo 💕
See, being an ftm but being bi is a relief for me because I don't get comments like my gay or straight ftm brothers, because no matter how you put it, in the end I'm still bisexual bruv. so shout out to y'all straight ftms who get told "doesn't that just make you a lesbian" And shout out to my gay ftms who say "doesn't that just make you straight?"
On the whole same gender attraction thing Chase mentioned (4:40) - I heard someone who described their feelings like this: they couldn't stand the idea of being the "girl" to anyone's "guy." So when they were presenting as female, even though they might have been attracted to guys, their gender issues made them too uncomfortable to consider the possibility of actually being with a guy. When they were with girls these feelings of discomfort were lessened, especially if they could assume a masculine role in the relationship. However, once they transitioned to male they became more comfortable engaging with men because they no longer had to fulfill a female role. No change in sexuality, just a change in level of comfort in expressing their sexuality (thanks to their gender transition). Idk it makes sense to me.
Smonster TIME LOL, I know someone who transitioned and he is also the top. I guess that makes sense bc you got to be very wanting to be a guy in the relationship in order to transition.
I'm 14 too and have been on T for four months. If you have an instagram, Landon Richie (@landon_richie) just turned 14 and has been a year on T and has had top surgery. You're never too young, don't listen to what some people tell you. Your feelings are valid, and you need to be you. It's so worth it at the end of the day.
+Riyan _Farlin No problem, and it kind of depends on where you live, but it's worth a shot to come out and try to transition early. Best wishes to you.
I am an FTM and like guys, so when I'm done with transition I have a few gay guys wanting to date me, plus a few straight women! kinda cool, glad you brought up this vid! my friend who is gay was the one who told me I was trans, cuz o told him I always wanted to be a guy, he would tell me I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body 😆 life FINALLY made sense to me!
I personally know a lot, I mean a lot of ppl who feel this way strongly, "I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body " and they wanted to transition but don't have the courage or money.
Wow, now I understand a bit more clear. I've always repress my attraction towards men and women (I have a preference for men but always tried to hide that plus I have no labels on my sexuality) Now after seeing this I'm a bit more comfortable with my skin. Thanks guys, you both are helping me throughout my transition. I really appreciate you both and I'm very thankful for you two to be alive and influence me positively in my late teens. Thank you.
I don't comment very often, but wanted to say, that I am Pre-T FTM, and I know I am most definitely gay as well. All my life I've known I liked men, and I know it won't change. So I'm here to represent! \o
Please don't go on T :( Transgenderism is just a recent popularized form of body issues. You are beautiful the way you are. You can get guys effortlessly with your natural body.
They may be "beautiful" the way that they are, but as someone that is trans I would rather transition than have panic attacks over seeing my body in the mirror and being called she/her. I would love to appriciate my body, but I can't. Because i am T R A N S.
@@liamlavey7584 its mental. Change your mentality rather than your physical appearance. Looks will fade but you are stuck with your mind. Be comfortable with who you are rather than change everything about you to become a false representation of someone else.
@@jesussaves.9141 I'm comfortable with myself... But at a man. My physiologist is putting me on testosterone soon ✌. Because I have gender dysphoria. Maybe if I just change my mentality my adhd too Its not a false representation. Sorry but I'm still going through with the transition my dude. You can die mad about it or let it go. This is just a shell, and its not your shell to control. Sorry i can't just transfer over my gender dysphoria so you could understand,
I’m a Cis Gay man in love with a Trans Gay man... I couldn’t be happier. He is so amazing pre op on T. I am still learning, asking questions and googling, which is how I stumbled upon this video. Thank you for this, seriously helped me a bit to understand. Subbed for sure!! And makes some sense my partner was originally into girls until T and as he became more comfortable he discovered he was gay! Lucky for me!!! This vid was awesome thank you!!!
Craw it didn’t but it opened my eyes as a cis gay man I regret the relationship but not the knowledge I gained and understanding of who trans guys really are. Trans wasn’t ok with me before, but now it’s like who cares to me what’s downstairs, make me happy that’s all I care about and I’ll do the same for them.
Thanks to both of you for helping me to understand this issue better (or as much as a straight guy can) . The terminology and the context helps a lot. Emily Nagoski's TED Talk video on arousal nonconcordance also helped with terminology/context as well. I knew the concepts instinctually but to articulate it was a vast improvement.
In one of Ty's latest videos, he mentions being pan and being attracted to everyone, so his sexuality has definitely evolved. BTW, they're both so awesome and adorable.
2 things: 1. This video, the points.👌🏼 Yep, amazing, on point, thank you. 2. I love when you 2 make videos together because you just bounce off each other and are well... WOOW.
The first trans-person I ever met in 1990 was a trans-woman who was a lesbian. At the time, it broke my young mind. We became good friends. She encouraged me to be a better young gay man and not live for the gay bar scene. I will always remember her. May she rest in peace.
You two are freaking crazy, lol! I laughed so much with your video (specially with the "wow" parts). Do the hole! Lol. It seemed like Chase was tempted to do something everytime you touched him, Ty (sexual tension). Love you guys (I already follow you on Twitter and Instagram)
Y’all are great!! As a CIS guy who identifies as gay, I’d have no issue dating/falling in love with a trans guy. Some trans guys are SO hot (cough cough Ty cough) but I’ve never personally met a trans guy so.. 🤷🏻♂️
I love videos with you guys together, you're such good friends and it's hilarious, I am actually crying laughing at 'do the hole and there you are', whut XD
Wow i didnt realize how lonely i was sitting here until i watched this. I just got so sad when it ended. Like "please dont go. Lets hang out a bit longer. I'll do the hole."
I'm here gay/trans/multiracial dude. Proud! Enjoyed this video a lot, keeping it real. I agree with you in terms of, the topic discussion. Plus feeling alone, being like the only gay dude around in the T man community.
You guys make some of the most enjoyable and informative videos on TH-cam! Your intelligence and fun personalities come through so strong that, as a gay CIS guy, I always feel more positive about the future of the world after seeing you.
You guys are hilarious together! I know that this clip is from several years ago, but the issues are still very real today. I'm a cis gay man in SF and have always interacted in the queer communities. There are a lot of gay/bi identified trans men or genderfuid folks here in the Bay area. I did some outreach for a provider I work for that focuses on men who have sex with men, and attended a couple of meetings for gay/bi trans men (held in a gay sex club) and there were around 80-90 guys there both times I went. For most of the 90s I lived with the same two housemates who were originally lesbian-identified, and both eventually transitioned. I remember one of them telling me that when he was female-identified he'd never consider sex with a cis man, but he could definitely see having gay male sex with a gay cis man as the dynamics are totally different. I have definitely heard the "I am queer-oriented as my sexual orientation" from some, and the "I'm more comfortable with my body and my attractions" after transition from others.
i really like your sense of humor about this topics cause it makes me feel better about being ftm and sometimes i really have deep thoughts about dysphoria
Hi Ty and Chase! Thank you for making this (years ago - but I'm just watching it now). As a gay trans man I think it was even harder coming to terms with and accepting that I am trans, because I was SO SCARED that I'd end up #ForeverAlone. Not growing up as a gay man left me mostly in the dark about the gay community and I didn't honestly think I'd find a gay man who'd want a transman. I don't know if that was just me being judgemental, assuming *no dick* was a deal breaker for all gay men. Also, since I am comfortable with my feminine side(as many other gay men are), it took me years and years to accept that I actually was trans. And even then I was scared that no one would take my trans identity seriously. I am so grateful there are people willing to be visible and be a role model.
I’m a weird one with this because I thought that to be a true man I have to like women it took me years to except who I am as a transguy then to dig even deeper and realise I can like guys and still be a guy so I allowed myself to be who I truly am and be gay
When I was 7 I came out as gay and I was denied by my mom, when I was 12 I was accepted for being gay but not trans.. and I was “bi” but now I’m 18, I came out as trans and made it a point, I am also mlm and somewhat feminine
this is a super old video but for me I learned I was bi long before learning I was trans, so I just... kinda never thought about the connection between gender and sexuality because I've always been attracted to any gender
I just discovered that fact from the trans community. Thought all of them like the opposite sex once they changed, but I see that some of them may have started feelings towards the same gender they identify as. And it's pretty interesting to me being a bisexual guy, discovering this attraction I'm encountering with trans guys like for instance Ty. Would totally date him in a heart beat, but to bad he's not into guys. He's so handsome.
This video makes me feel so much better. Thank you for posting this! I needed to hear that it's normal for me to still be into guys even though I'm Trans.
Man that same gender attraction theory is actually me. Like I thought I was the only person like that and was always super, like ashamed to say anything.
What happened with me is that I definitely knew I was lgbt, but I was for some reason really attracted to guys. But I kept thinking when I saw a guy who I thought was attractive “wow you’re really hot but in a totally not straight way” if that makes any sense. And I think the key is that if I was to like a guy in a “straight” way I would be putting elements of straight culture on myself which can be really problematic for trans people. Straight relationships have a heavy emphasis and lots of elements revolving around the fact that one person’s the man and one person’s the woman. And liking a guy at the time would put an emphasis of me being the “woman” in a relationship which is something I wanted to stay 10000 miles away from. But I didn’t notice this when I didn’t know I was trans. I just lived with the fact that sometimes I said to myself “I like guys, but in a gay way.” I think it’s because relationships between people of the same gender often end up making the relationship less about gender, and are less likely to push a person into a specific role based on societal rules. Which is why I thought I was a lesbian for a while, then ace, and now i just think guys are really hot okay and I’ve accepted that, and I’ve accepted I’m trans and liking guys doesn’t make me any less trans, despite the fact that straight cis women are more common than gay trans men.
Ty touches Chase's chest a lot, and looks into his eyes a lot. Also i get mad jersey vibes from them. Also also i would like to watch a Netflix romcom with them
You two are too much and I freaking love you both!!! This was so helpful cause I'm a cisgender gay man and I love trans men very much so it was very cool to explore this topic thank you guys so much
Therealalexbertie and jakeftmagic. They're both trans guys and I'm pretty sure they're both pansexual, but they're in a same gender relationship and both identify as men. (So could be seen as being a gay couple, even though they're pansexual...)
to the topic of not straight trans represation: I almost cried when I saw the new season of Shameless, since Elliot Fletcher, a trans actor, is portraying a trans gay guy in there 💖
Great video guys! Just watched a wonderful movie about a transwoman that experiments with a female for the first time. Suuuuuch a good movie and it's on Netflix! Boy meets girl.
ok so you two have got to stop having so much fun together :) LOL love you both and hope you both have the very best holiday and that 2017 brings you all the love and joy that you both deserve. Hugs and loves
Oh my god, I'm not the only trans dude! Before I realised I was trans I identified as a lesbian because I was viscerally uncomfortable with the idea of being with a dude. But now I kind of maybe like guys? I dunno, but I'm definitely more comfortable with it now. I think I didn't want to be the "girl" in the relationship, because with het couples it seems like there's one source of masculinity and one source of femininity. I was always more masc in personality too, so I felt like I couldn't fulfill my role in a het relationship (which is ofc dumb, there doesn't have to be a "man" and a "woman" in a relationship). But with a girl I would probably be more masc than her and I also remember wanting to do the traditionally masc roles in the relationship like being the breadwinner, paying bills on dates, I imagined myself proposing, I imagined wearing a suit at my wedding, etc. But now I'm more comfortable in my body and don't feel dysphoric dating a dude. I still love girls, and I don't know whether or not I actually like guys, but the layer of dysphoria no longer covers the concept of being with a guy and now I can question whether or not I like guys without the initial reaction being "ew, I'd feel so uncomfortable".
Piggybacking on what Chase has said about same-gender attraction and speaking about my own personal experiences with my sexuality, I identified most with being gay/lesbian prior to coming out as trans. But as I came out and became more comfortable with my gender identity, I also felt more comfortable in my attraction toward men. For me, I feel like it was more of a matter of me feeling a lot more dysphoric in a relationship with a guy than I did in a relationship with a girl, you know? If that makes sense? I had one long-term relationship with a guy that was somewhat serious, but in that relationship I just felt so much more conscious of my perceived gender and the roles that society expected of me. My ex himself was probably the most loving, open-minded, and accepting guy I had met (hence why I dated him for so long), but because of my own insecurities and the crippling dysphoria I experienced in that relationship (due to the nonsense going on in my head, not him), I broke up with him. After that point, I exclusively dated women and I just felt more comfortable. Of course, there was still something very clearly wrong in my mind, but I just couldn't place what it was and it took me a long time to understand it for myself. That all said, I have dated a guy since coming out as trans and it was a very enlightening relationship, a lot of self-discovery made there, and I feel much more comfortable with myself, my gender identity, and my sexual/romantic identity as well. I, also, feel like this is why I've always liked and appreciated Chase and his videos so much because I relate a lot to him in his own journey; it's good to see the diversity and representation of the trans community on TH-cam. This is why TH-cam is such a powerful platform for us and I commend all the trans people within our community who have the courage and the voice to speak up and be visible. So, thanks you guys!
My mom once had a male friend that she reconnected with and would come over our house all the time when I was in middle school. One day they told me they actually felt like they were a female inside. I was confused, because I had never heard of even gay people yet (a friend did tell me once that some woman be with other woman because they are -scared- of being with men) to be honest, let alone transgender. My mother also taught me to be an accepting person, so I was just okay. Later down the line when I am in high school and know a lot more about the lqbtq, my grandparents talk about how my mom's male friend is going around as a female now but still like girls. My grandfather rudely said why didn't "he" just stay a male if he wanted to date women still? Because transitioning isn't about who you're attracted to, but who you feel you really are!
I am transgendered female to male and just recently came out as trans and couldn't be happier and I start my therapy this month and I'm pretty excited about it and feel more like a male everyday
Great video! I identify as trans masculine and I've always been attracted to men. I guess I saw gender and sexuality as two different things, so, I thought of what gender (body) would fit me best and then which gender I'd be attracted to. The toughest thing for me was trying to find people who identified as genderqueer and were undergoing physical transition. These folks really are rare, but there are some of them out there. I definitely spent quite a bit of time trying to find them. I never really thought about my sexuality and how it might possibly invalidate my gender identity. I did, of course, notice that gay trans men were not well represented, but it didn't make me feel like I wasn't trans enough. And Chase, you are just a wonderful role model. I feel like my identity as a queer trans masculine person is so much more valid because of you. I'm very animated and, as I like to put it, just want to be fabulous. =)
I heard the same gender/same sex atraction theory back in the day of The L Word, already 6th season, I think. Max was with Jenny, but then they broke up when she discovered Max with the gay friend who was co-owner of their usual bar. Then they started a relationship and Max got pregnant with his baby... then the little shit ran away leaving Max and the baby behind.
It took a bit to scroll down your Instagram page to find a photo of you guys together page but I did it haha #YaMatha Also this is a little late cuz this was posted a while back but oh well XD
Wow, loved this video, was so funny! Chase, sounds like you're describing a "mirror image" sexuality. Kind of like if someone yawns, it makes you want to yawn too. In your case, when you were a female, you like females and now you're a male, your brain is wiring you to copy a mirror image of yourself, which is attraction to men. Makes sense to me.
THEIR FRIENDSHIP CLEANSED MY SOUL
Thats the most perfect way to put it.
Apparently Chase did something seriously wrong to Ty and they are no longer friends u.u
About the "same gender attraction" theory:
My thoughts on it aren't necessarily that your gender attraction shifts when you transition because you're used to being attracted to the same gender, I think it's more the thing you mentioned about feeling more comfortable.
I'm FTM and I have for a long time been confused about my sexuality. Mostly straight but I guess I could be open for guys or anyone else. As I reflected on this more, I came to the realisation that the reason I do not wish to date guys now is because I'm scared I would be the "girl" in the relationship, as I haven't yet transitioned. Because I don't always pass as male, I'm afraid I'd be given the more female role, and that the other guy would not see me as male. I think I'll be more comfortable dating a guy after I've started my transition, as I'm more confident I'd be seen as a boy. In the meantime, I'm just gonna be my self-conscious and dysphoric self, mainly being with girls because then I know I'll be the more masculine in the relationship for sure.
Thought this could be interesting. Love you guys!
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OMG. I have a really similar feeling about dating guys. For all my life until now, I turned down all the guys that tried to date me. Even if I really liked them back. I just couldn't stand the idea of being seeing as a "girl" by them. Like it would literally make me feel sick. Realizing what made me feel uncomfortable was actually one of the things that helped me discover I was a trans man.
My partner and I met online, he's a cis gay man and when we met I identified as a quiggly bisexual woman. Lately, what's really helped me figure out I'm a trans guy is the fact that, though our relationship is...platonic...but like...soulmate platonic....whatever, it didn't seem to matter if I was a girl or a boy
Except obviously being trans and knowing that someday we actually want to BE together in real life and start a family it makes me nauseous thinking about having to do that as a woman. Not so much because I feel invalidated by him because he is amazing. But because it would kill me to have others look at us and see a cis straight couple, because being queer is such a huge part of my identity whenever I say 'my partner' and then use masculine pronouns I also want to add 'but we really gay tho'
I don't even like talking to him voice to voice or face to face because I just don't want it to be a person I don't see myself as. I don't want others to see it either. /depression
you explained this so well, thank you! also, i love your videos Kovu :)
i want someone to look at me the way Ty looks at Chase
Oh hun, I know
Space Man, I was wondering if anybody else noticed it.
Space Man I ship it so much
I was about to comment on how Chase looked at Ty! Just the way they look at each other..😂 #goals
Space Man seriously!!
I am flamboyantly gay.
I'm also a trans guy.
I'm a trans guy who is sexually attracted to other guys.
I wish this wasn't an "issue" that has to be specified.
Pidge Holt I think the issue might be that a lot of cis gay guys might be transphobic, so the dating pool might be smaller, im a pansexual cis male dating a gay trans guy and I've been told this by him
Nick rockz If the guy is a top, I don't think he will care about the lack of a penis. Me and my friends who are tops, we don't really care about (besides our own), so...
A lot of gay men I've met who are tops still won't sleep with a trans guy because we're "not real men" to them, all because we weren't born with a penis.
Good on you for not caring, by the way. I mean it.
I kind of understand them, because it is something not everybody is prepared. I asked in a group, on my fb, what they think about it, and some of the straight dudes feel attracted to ftm. But it seems some people are not actually attracted to a gender(cis or trans), but to a genital more than the person. And I have some friends who are bottom and doesn't have problem with it. And on the internet, I found a guy who dates another guy, but he does not think he's gay, because he said to be in love with the person, even though he does not like penises.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those case-by-case basis things.
Like in my case, for example. I consider myself gay because I'm only sexually attracted to penis and only emotionally attracted to guys in 99% of cases. That 1% exception would be my wife, who I met before she realized she was MtF. I didn't leave her when she came out because she was still the same person I had fallen in love with two years before.
Despite being married to someone who identifies as female, I still consider myself gay because of the kinds of people I'm attracted to.
chase saying "transgendered" and their reaction made me laugh so hard I somehow sounded like a parrot 😂
I see the sexual tension in this video. I ship it :)
The tea
the movie Romeos is a really good way to explain being gay and trans. it's also cinematically spectacular, i would definitely recommend it.
im trans and gay and I dont give a fuck about whether I look male enough
Bi guys don't either care :p
I have a trans friend, and she's lesbian. Not many people understand it.. They're like "wouldn't that make you straight?" NOPE!!
Chera I’m ftm and I’m pan and one day this guy came up to me and asked “if you dated a girl, would it be gay” and I was kinda ready to punch him but he’s also kinda my friend so I just told him no
It’s annoying when people think that just because I was born female they have to use female pronouns and say I’m in a gay relationship if I date a girl
Sorry for the rant lol
I'M GAY and I'M PROUD
I'M TRANS and IM PROUD
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IM GAY, WHO IS DATING A TRANS GUYS AND I'M PROUD AS FUCK.
before I came out, I was attracted to men and didn't like women, but now that I'm out I've realized that I wasn't attracted to boobs and being feminine because of my hated for my own boobs and feminine body. So I decided I was Androsexual, so I'm attracted to masculinity wether it's male, female, or in-between.
XigXag I identify as androsexual too! haha yay!
ayyy
I'm gynesexual, the opposite!
redskiez yo! man i didnt know anyone else like me existed. haha
we're here man!
I'm a transman and in a gay relationship with another gay transman and have been for nearly two years, and both at the start of our transitions. :) I love your vids with chaseypoo 💕
See, being an ftm but being bi is a relief for me because I don't get comments like my gay or straight ftm brothers, because no matter how you put it, in the end I'm still bisexual bruv.
so shout out to y'all straight ftms who get told "doesn't that just make you a lesbian"
And shout out to my gay ftms who say "doesn't that just make you straight?"
On the whole same gender attraction thing Chase mentioned (4:40) - I heard someone who described their feelings like this: they couldn't stand the idea of being the "girl" to anyone's "guy."
So when they were presenting as female, even though they might have been attracted to guys, their gender issues made them too uncomfortable to consider the possibility of actually being with a guy. When they were with girls these feelings of discomfort were lessened, especially if they could assume a masculine role in the relationship. However, once they transitioned to male they became more comfortable engaging with men because they no longer had to fulfill a female role. No change in sexuality, just a change in level of comfort in expressing their sexuality (thanks to their gender transition).
Idk it makes sense to me.
That makes a lot of sense!
I never understood that. I just always did boys with a strapon, lol. And never had a slightest attraction towards women (they make me feel repulsive)
are they in love i want them to be in love
they do have a very cute rapport
You want them to be in love?...........well, then.......yes...........yes they are in love.
I'm a transguy who is currently in a relationship with a cis guy.
This video was wonderful. Thank you.
Smonster TIME so you're a girl and your man is a man. So that means that you're straight
Smonster TIME
LOL, I know someone who transitioned and he is also the top. I guess that makes sense bc you got to be very wanting to be a guy in the relationship in order to transition.
no name do you know what transgender means! This person is gay!!! Or bi maybe or other but anyway get my point THEY ARE A BOYYYY
i love that chase looks at tys eyes then his lips
Mace Chafatelli W H I C H L I P S?
epickitty58 *W O O O O W TO A TRANS GUY?*
Mace Chafatelli I read this and then looked back up after him and he did it dsksksksks 😂
I'm a pansexual trans guy, haven't started transitioning yet cuz I'm only 14
I'm 14 too and have been on T for four months. If you have an instagram, Landon Richie (@landon_richie) just turned 14 and has been a year on T and has had top surgery. You're never too young, don't listen to what some people tell you. Your feelings are valid, and you need to be you. It's so worth it at the end of the day.
Thank you! I thought you couldn't start t until your 16 end get top surgery until your 18!
+Riyan _Farlin No problem, and it kind of depends on where you live, but it's worth a shot to come out and try to transition early. Best wishes to you.
Same
Rex Immortuos same
I am an FTM and like guys, so when I'm done with transition I have a few gay guys wanting to date me, plus a few straight women! kinda cool, glad you brought up this vid! my friend who is gay was the one who told me I was trans, cuz o told him I always wanted to be a guy, he would tell me I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body 😆 life FINALLY made sense to me!
Chris Moon yeah welcome to the gay male club!! I wouldn't mind dating a ftm guy they tend to be so hot, even hotter than us cis men t.t hahah
I personally know a lot, I mean a lot of ppl who feel this way strongly, "I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body " and they wanted to transition but don't have the courage or money.
Wow, now I understand a bit more clear. I've always repress my attraction towards men and women (I have a preference for men but always tried to hide that plus I have no labels on my sexuality) Now after seeing this I'm a bit more comfortable with my skin. Thanks guys, you both are helping me throughout my transition. I really appreciate you both and I'm very thankful for you two to be alive and influence me positively in my late teens. Thank you.
Voted for Chase Ross under Activist of the year because he is compassionate about everyone and every creature on the planet 💎🌱 loved this vid
Anyone else see how smitten chase is with ty?! 💜
I don't comment very often, but wanted to say, that I am Pre-T FTM, and I know I am most definitely gay as well. All my life I've known I liked men, and I know it won't change. So I'm here to represent! \o
Please don't go on T :( Transgenderism is just a recent popularized form of body issues. You are beautiful the way you are. You can get guys effortlessly with your natural body.
Sarban it's not about other people, it's about getting comfortable with our body.
They may be "beautiful" the way that they are, but as someone that is trans I would rather transition than have panic attacks over seeing my body in the mirror and being called she/her.
I would love to appriciate my body, but I can't. Because i am T R A N S.
@@liamlavey7584 its mental. Change your mentality rather than your physical appearance. Looks will fade but you are stuck with your mind. Be comfortable with who you are rather than change everything about you to become a false representation of someone else.
@@jesussaves.9141 I'm comfortable with myself... But at a man.
My physiologist is putting me on testosterone soon ✌.
Because I have gender dysphoria.
Maybe if I just change my mentality my adhd too
Its not a false representation. Sorry but I'm still going through with the transition my dude. You can die mad about it or let it go.
This is just a shell, and its not your shell to control. Sorry i can't just transfer over my gender dysphoria so you could understand,
when cysts date transmissions like ew
Kyljoy ewwwww mmmm the Transmissionsssssss
what are cysts?
Choa Min its a joke
it mean cis
LMAO
+Choa Min i know but what is cisgender? i still haven't found out lol
Chase's hair makes his eyes pop even more and I'm crying
ok but you're my OTP
Ikr
Same
A collab video YESSSS :D I love both of you guys x3
And if you make a shirt that says "Do the hole and there you are" I WILL buy it
You guys should check out Alex Bertie and Jake Edwards their both trans and they are dating each other
I’m a Cis Gay man in love with a Trans Gay man... I couldn’t be happier. He is so amazing pre op on T. I am still learning, asking questions and googling, which is how I stumbled upon this video. Thank you for this, seriously helped me a bit to understand. Subbed for sure!! And makes some sense my partner was originally into girls until T and as he became more comfortable he discovered he was gay! Lucky for me!!! This vid was awesome thank you!!!
Craw it didn’t but it opened my eyes as a cis gay man I regret the relationship but not the knowledge I gained and understanding of who trans guys really are. Trans wasn’t ok with me before, but now it’s like who cares to me what’s downstairs, make me happy that’s all I care about and I’ll do the same for them.
Thanks to both of you for helping me to understand this issue better (or as much as a straight guy can) . The terminology and the context helps a lot. Emily Nagoski's TED Talk video on arousal nonconcordance also helped with terminology/context as well. I knew the concepts instinctually but to articulate it was a vast improvement.
In one of Ty's latest videos, he mentions being pan and being attracted to everyone, so his sexuality has definitely evolved. BTW, they're both so awesome and adorable.
their videos mean EVERYTHING to me with the little jokes and everything, they seem so genuinely happy.
2 things:
1. This video, the points.👌🏼 Yep, amazing, on point, thank you.
2. I love when you 2 make videos together because you just bounce off each other and are well... WOOW.
I LOVE rewatching older videos, seeing my comment at the time and seeing how far we all have gotten!
The first trans-person I ever met in 1990 was a trans-woman who was a lesbian. At the time, it broke my young mind. We became good friends. She encouraged me to be a better young gay man and not live for the gay bar scene. I will always remember her. May she rest in peace.
You two are freaking crazy, lol! I laughed so much with your video (specially with the "wow" parts). Do the hole! Lol. It seemed like Chase was tempted to do something everytime you touched him, Ty (sexual tension). Love you guys (I already follow you on Twitter and Instagram)
Y’all are great!! As a CIS guy who identifies as gay, I’d have no issue dating/falling in love with a trans guy. Some trans guys are SO hot (cough cough Ty cough) but I’ve never personally met a trans guy so.. 🤷🏻♂️
I love videos with you guys together, you're such good friends and it's hilarious, I am actually crying laughing at 'do the hole and there you are', whut XD
Wow i didnt realize how lonely i was sitting here until i watched this. I just got so sad when it ended. Like "please dont go. Lets hang out a bit longer. I'll do the hole."
thanks for introducing me to Chase, i absolutely love him! :D
I'm here gay/trans/multiracial dude. Proud! Enjoyed this video a lot, keeping it real. I agree with you in terms of, the topic discussion. Plus feeling alone, being like the only gay dude around in the T man community.
You guys make some of the most enjoyable and informative videos on TH-cam! Your intelligence and fun personalities come through so strong that, as a gay CIS guy, I always feel more positive about the future of the world after seeing you.
Thank you guys so much for sharing. This really helped and I love how funny y'all are too it made it a little less stressful.
You guys are hilarious together! I know that this clip is from several years ago, but the issues are still very real today. I'm a cis gay man in SF and have always interacted in the queer communities. There are a lot of gay/bi identified trans men or genderfuid folks here in the Bay area. I did some outreach for a provider I work for that focuses on men who have sex with men, and attended a couple of meetings for gay/bi trans men (held in a gay sex club) and there were around 80-90 guys there both times I went. For most of the 90s I lived with the same two housemates who were originally lesbian-identified, and both eventually transitioned. I remember one of them telling me that when he was female-identified he'd never consider sex with a cis man, but he could definitely see having gay male sex with a gay cis man as the dynamics are totally different. I have definitely heard the "I am queer-oriented as my sexual orientation" from some, and the "I'm more comfortable with my body and my attractions" after transition from others.
Check out TheRealAlexBertie ☺
TheWhisperrKid love him omg
Thank you so much guys!!!!! I really needed to hear this
i really like your sense of humor about this topics cause it makes me feel better about being ftm and sometimes i really have deep thoughts about dysphoria
oh my god this video made me feel so much more at peace with myself. i didn't know other people experienced this as well. thank you guys.
Hi Ty and Chase! Thank you for making this (years ago - but I'm just watching it now). As a gay trans man I think it was even harder coming to terms with and accepting that I am trans, because I was SO SCARED that I'd end up #ForeverAlone. Not growing up as a gay man left me mostly in the dark about the gay community and I didn't honestly think I'd find a gay man who'd want a transman. I don't know if that was just me being judgemental, assuming *no dick* was a deal breaker for all gay men.
Also, since I am comfortable with my feminine side(as many other gay men are), it took me years and years to accept that I actually was trans. And even then I was scared that no one would take my trans identity seriously.
I am so grateful there are people willing to be visible and be a role model.
Ryan Cassata is trans and gay :)
Olivia Searcy Hes pansexual but yaaa lol
I’m a weird one with this because I thought that to be a true man I have to like women it took me years to except who I am as a transguy then to dig even deeper and realise I can like guys and still be a guy so I allowed myself to be who I truly am and be gay
You two are having so much fun in this video! It brought a smile to my face, and happiness to my heart. :)
When I was 7 I came out as gay and I was denied by my mom, when I was 12 I was accepted for being gay but not trans.. and I was “bi” but
now I’m 18, I came out as trans and made it a point, I am also mlm and somewhat feminine
get you a man that looks at you like Ty looks at Chase
this is a super old video but for me I learned I was bi long before learning I was trans, so I just... kinda never thought about the connection between gender and sexuality because I've always been attracted to any gender
awesome video guys, quite informative. Personaly im a gay cis male who LOVES FTM
FTMs are the best! If Ty wants to be hole... I will be right there.
I just discovered that fact from the trans community. Thought all of them like the opposite sex once they changed, but I see that some of them may have started feelings towards the same gender they identify as. And it's pretty interesting to me being a bisexual guy, discovering this attraction I'm encountering with trans guys like for instance Ty. Would totally date him in a heart beat, but to bad he's not into guys. He's so handsome.
I fucking love chase!! So sassy!
In the DRUCK german series we have a representation of a cis man who falls in love with a trans man and he with him
This video makes me feel so much better. Thank you for posting this! I needed to hear that it's normal for me to still be into guys even though I'm Trans.
Man that same gender attraction theory is actually me. Like I thought I was the only person like that and was always super, like ashamed to say anything.
What happened with me is that I definitely knew I was lgbt, but I was for some reason really attracted to guys. But I kept thinking when I saw a guy who I thought was attractive “wow you’re really hot but in a totally not straight way” if that makes any sense. And I think the key is that if I was to like a guy in a “straight” way I would be putting elements of straight culture on myself which can be really problematic for trans people. Straight relationships have a heavy emphasis and lots of elements revolving around the fact that one person’s the man and one person’s the woman. And liking a guy at the time would put an emphasis of me being the “woman” in a relationship which is something I wanted to stay 10000 miles away from. But I didn’t notice this when I didn’t know I was trans. I just lived with the fact that sometimes I said to myself “I like guys, but in a gay way.” I think it’s because relationships between people of the same gender often end up making the relationship less about gender, and are less likely to push a person into a specific role based on societal rules. Which is why I thought I was a lesbian for a while, then ace, and now i just think guys are really hot okay and I’ve accepted that, and I’ve accepted I’m trans and liking guys doesn’t make me any less trans, despite the fact that straight cis women are more common than gay trans men.
Ty touches Chase's chest a lot, and looks into his eyes a lot. Also i get mad jersey vibes from them. Also also i would like to watch a Netflix romcom with them
You two are too much and I freaking love you both!!! This was so helpful cause I'm a cisgender gay man and I love trans men very much so it was very cool to explore this topic thank you guys so much
you guys look so great and I'm sitting here like "wait, I can do that? woah..."
There needs to be a shirt made because I just died laughing 😂😂😂
Therealalexbertie and jakeftmagic.
They're both trans guys and I'm pretty sure they're both pansexual, but they're in a same gender relationship and both identify as men. (So could be seen as being a gay couple, even though they're pansexual...)
to the topic of not straight trans represation: I almost cried when I saw the new season of Shameless, since Elliot Fletcher, a trans actor, is portraying a trans gay guy in there 💖
The no rep thing at the beginning. Omg...it sucks. Thanks for this, guys!
Great video guys! Just watched a wonderful movie about a transwoman that experiments with a female for the first time. Suuuuuch a good movie and it's on Netflix!
Boy meets girl.
You two are pretty flirty with each other....
ok so you two have got to stop having so much fun together :) LOL love you both and hope you both have the very best holiday and that 2017 brings you all the love and joy that you both deserve.
Hugs and loves
Y'all are both friggin cuties, and I'm glad you're doing well!
omg grindr was the ad for this lol
"do the hole and there you are" LMAOO! im fucking dying
Oh my god, I'm not the only trans dude! Before I realised I was trans I identified as a lesbian because I was viscerally uncomfortable with the idea of being with a dude. But now I kind of maybe like guys? I dunno, but I'm definitely more comfortable with it now. I think I didn't want to be the "girl" in the relationship, because with het couples it seems like there's one source of masculinity and one source of femininity. I was always more masc in personality too, so I felt like I couldn't fulfill my role in a het relationship (which is ofc dumb, there doesn't have to be a "man" and a "woman" in a relationship). But with a girl I would probably be more masc than her and I also remember wanting to do the traditionally masc roles in the relationship like being the breadwinner, paying bills on dates, I imagined myself proposing, I imagined wearing a suit at my wedding, etc.
But now I'm more comfortable in my body and don't feel dysphoric dating a dude. I still love girls, and I don't know whether or not I actually like guys, but the layer of dysphoria no longer covers the concept of being with a guy and now I can question whether or not I like guys without the initial reaction being "ew, I'd feel so uncomfortable".
Piggybacking on what Chase has said about same-gender attraction and speaking about my own personal experiences with my sexuality, I identified most with being gay/lesbian prior to coming out as trans. But as I came out and became more comfortable with my gender identity, I also felt more comfortable in my attraction toward men. For me, I feel like it was more of a matter of me feeling a lot more dysphoric in a relationship with a guy than I did in a relationship with a girl, you know? If that makes sense? I had one long-term relationship with a guy that was somewhat serious, but in that relationship I just felt so much more conscious of my perceived gender and the roles that society expected of me. My ex himself was probably the most loving, open-minded, and accepting guy I had met (hence why I dated him for so long), but because of my own insecurities and the crippling dysphoria I experienced in that relationship (due to the nonsense going on in my head, not him), I broke up with him. After that point, I exclusively dated women and I just felt more comfortable. Of course, there was still something very clearly wrong in my mind, but I just couldn't place what it was and it took me a long time to understand it for myself.
That all said, I have dated a guy since coming out as trans and it was a very enlightening relationship, a lot of self-discovery made there, and I feel much more comfortable with myself, my gender identity, and my sexual/romantic identity as well. I, also, feel like this is why I've always liked and appreciated Chase and his videos so much because I relate a lot to him in his own journey; it's good to see the diversity and representation of the trans community on TH-cam. This is why TH-cam is such a powerful platform for us and I commend all the trans people within our community who have the courage and the voice to speak up and be visible. So, thanks you guys!
My mom once had a male friend that she reconnected with and would come over our house all the time when I was in middle school. One day they told me they actually felt like they were a female inside. I was confused, because I had never heard of even gay people yet (a friend did tell me once that some woman be with other woman because they are -scared- of being with men) to be honest, let alone transgender. My mother also taught me to be an accepting person, so I was just okay. Later down the line when I am in high school and know a lot more about the lqbtq, my grandparents talk about how my mom's male friend is going around as a female now but still like girls. My grandfather rudely said why didn't "he" just stay a male if he wanted to date women still? Because transitioning isn't about who you're attracted to, but who you feel you really are!
looks like we got a live demonstration
the way they look at each other. I need that in my life.
They way Chase looks at Ty, is the reason I watch these videos. 😂 Come on Ty, get on it! LMAO
I am transgendered female to male and just recently came out as trans and couldn't be happier and I start my therapy this month and I'm pretty excited about it and feel more like a male everyday
Great video! I identify as trans masculine and I've always been attracted to men. I guess I saw gender and sexuality as two different things, so, I thought of what gender (body) would fit me best and then which gender I'd be attracted to. The toughest thing for me was trying to find people who identified as genderqueer and were undergoing physical transition. These folks really are rare, but there are some of them out there. I definitely spent quite a bit of time trying to find them. I never really thought about my sexuality and how it might possibly invalidate my gender identity. I did, of course, notice that gay trans men were not well represented, but it didn't make me feel like I wasn't trans enough. And Chase, you are just a wonderful role model. I feel like my identity as a queer trans masculine person is so much more valid because of you. I'm very animated and, as I like to put it, just want to be fabulous. =)
this. makes me proud to be trans
such a fucking mood esp when I'm near my judgemental abusive mother
i like your reaction when you joke lol, you're both crazy, i mean in a good way lol, the guy with blue hair looks at him like he likes him :P Lol
“Wow JIZZt? To a tRaNs man!?” I’m dying omg I love y’all
i love the way u guys interact lmao the banter is 👌🏻👌🏻
Ive watch this video multiple times because I think ty is cute AF & I love the insiders they have. Also I laugh every time chase laughs
You guys are so much fun to watch & your energy makes me smile, love your infectious laughs
I could watch a video of either Ty flexing or Chase laughing for hours on end lol
What was it with Ty always tapping Chase's chest throughout the video 😂
I'm transmasculine and polysexual so daasssss pretty gay most days. I usually just use queer because most people don't know what's up with terms.
Congrats to being nominated!
i fucking adore these two together, their personalities bounce off of each other so well !!
I heard the same gender/same sex atraction theory back in the day of The L Word, already 6th season, I think. Max was with Jenny, but then they broke up when she discovered Max with the gay friend who was co-owner of their usual bar. Then they started a relationship and Max got pregnant with his baby... then the little shit ran away leaving Max and the baby behind.
It took a bit to scroll down your Instagram page to find a photo of you guys together page but I did it haha #YaMatha
Also this is a little late cuz this was posted a while back but oh well XD
Wow, loved this video, was so funny! Chase, sounds like you're describing a "mirror image" sexuality. Kind of like if someone yawns, it makes you want to yawn too. In your case, when you were a female, you like females and now you're a male, your brain is wiring you to copy a mirror image of yourself, which is attraction to men. Makes sense to me.
I’m tryna be quiet I’m supposed to be sleeping BUT IM MAKING WEIRD SQUEAKY NOUSES CAUSE THIS IS FUNNY
thank you for making this. I'm 32 and have just came out as Trans and i am still attracted to men even though I'm ftm.
i don't feel alone.