"Can we get back to politics?" "Uh please" Daveed (actor of Jefferson) and Oak (actor of Maddison) often cried when It‘s Quiet Uptown was on stage so that‘s a little thing from them
fun fact; duels were in fact illegal in almost all states at this point, hence why Alex's son had to go to Jersey for the duel, because that was the only place it was legal (Also, I imagine, why the doctor needed to turn around to have deniability)
Being present for a duel is implicitly condoning it and something a doctor cannot do, since he has to live up to the Hippocratic oath. The Doctor needs to be able to argue that he didn't observe the event, and couldn't have intervened to prevent it. Hence, turning around for deniability.
7:26 - think about pretty much every interaction Hamilton has had with Burr throughout the whole musical. He keeps trying to get him to declare a definite stand, on _anything,_ and Burr consistently refuses. Even in the very first words Alexander ever exchanges with him, a straightforward inquiry as to his name and identity, _(“Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, Sir?”)_ is met with an equivocal response _(“That depends, who’s asking?”)_ - Hamilton is not endorsing Jefferson just to spite Burr. Even if he did have a personal grudge about Burr switching parties to run against his father-in-law, I don’t believe he would put his own desire to retaliate above the country’s best interests. He is stating his real opinion here. 11:15 - …Are you forgetting what Burr told us way back in the opening number?
in the musical yes, and i'm sure it was somewhat similar in real life. but the real hamilton took a few actions against burr that def seemed like he held a grudge and didn't want burr to succeed in public offices so their rivalry was much more mutual irl
But you can easily also look at this entire musical from Burrs perspective. Everything he has attempted in his career has failed and the only common thread has been Hamiltons disrespect. His entire life has been for nothing and he just wants to take it out on someone
The 12th amendment to the constitution changed how we elect Vice-Presidents. The election of 1800 is seen as the first two-party election (Washington warned about creating a two- party system in his farewell address). It made the original approach in the constitution of the runner up being Vice President rather untenable.
I believe that what in the context of the musical what really sealed his decision was, burr saying that he was chasing what he wanted and learned it from Hamilton. Was the last Nail in the coffin because Hamilton's beliefs lead to loss in his family. In both literal and metaphorical ways.
Aaron Burr was in Jefferson’s party; and betrayed his party to run against him. And yes Jefferson is the start of the candidates choosing their running mate.
Yup. The law got changed when Jefferson was in office. Can you imagine if it was still the case these days that the person that came in second place would be Vice President? Actually, depending on when it happened, it might not be a bad thing. VPs don't have much power, but they do sit in the highest position in the Senate. It would have been wild if Hillary had been Trump's VP. lol
And, well...that's the thing. He hated both Burr AND Jefferson. If it was merely a matter of disliking someone, he wouldn't have supported either of them. The thing about Jefferson is that while Hamilton disagreed with how he wanted to go about doing it, Hamilton at least knew that Jefferson had the country's well-being in mind. Burr only thought of himself and his own power and wealth.
The race their talking about is a primary , Jefferson and Burr are the top two in the democratic-republican party… the winner will go on to face Incumbent John Adams of the Federalist Party in the general election. The runner up in the primary of the winning party becomes VP. Everyone knows Adams will be defeated “dear mr Hamilton, your fellow federalists would like to know how you’ll be voting… …John Adams doesn’t stand a chance so who are you promoting?” So it would have been Trump with VP Ted Cruz… or Biden with VP Bernie Sanders… The only time it happened I can think of was when John F Kennedy needed his bitter rival and enemy Lyndon B Johnson’s support in the south to win the general election. They hated each other, especially Bobby Kennedy. They went out of their way to remind The Vice President that he was powerless every chance they could. It didn’t end well for the Kennedy brothers, and I think it was a good thing to remove from the rules. Better to have someone who owes you and aligns with your beliefs as your successor, rather then a bitter rival you recently defeated…
Yes. In fact the duel had more to do with what happened in New York when he ran for Governor - from two different parties than from when he was Vice President.
The election of 1800 went to the House of representatives because the electoral college tied. The House was filled with lame duck Federalists. Some felt at least Burr wasn't from the south. Though plenty felt voter intent mattered - Jefferson had been the head of the dem-rep ticket. The House voted and voted and voted but neither candidate got the majority of votes. Hamilton wrote a lot of letters to his fellow Federalists telling them why Jefferson was better than Burr. Jefferson obviously eventually got enough votes to win. With representatives who Hamilton wrote deciding not to vote so that Jefferson ended up with a majority of votes. Not known is rather Hamilton hated Burr so much he would prefer Jefferson to be president or if Hamilton felt someone with conviction was better than a centralist who waited to see what the majority wanted. I would say both are true to what Hamilton believed.
I think someone in the last video commented but I'll repeat. Yes, the duels are and WERE stupid. I think during the song where Laurens dueled the other dude it was explained that most duels as it was ended in 1. The friends that went with each party squashing the duel. 2. Shooting at the air. Anothing thing that was suggested (this time when Phillip was about to duel) was that they had to go to New Jersey to go through with this, because most states had already outlawed this because yeah. They were impractical and petty and allowing them basically made legalized murder. Having lost his son to something like this I also keep wondering what Burr does "why do you assume you're the smartest in the room?" Hamilton clearly wasn't the brightest (?)
An argument has been made that Hamilton was suicidal by the time of the duel and thus wanted to die. With all that had happened both to his career and family at that point, that would make sense.
yassssssssss i love your hamilton reactions! I cant wait for you to see/hear The World Was Wide Enough. Aaron Burr is my favorite character in the musical, and that song really punches me in the gut
Love your Hamilton reactions Sal, going to be sad when it’s done. BUT I cannot wait for your final reaction. Such a conundrum. 😉 Looking forward to your In The Heights reactions. Any format you choose is ok with me.
throughout the show the only character to ever show Burr respect is Hamilton. This was not a personal grudge, there is a brief moment during this where he asks Burr if there is anything he wouldnt do, my interpretation is he is trying to see if Burr has changed, if he has convictions now, or if he is still just grabbing at power regardless of what he actually believes
Oh and Burr was Vice president for Jefferson's 1st term. But B/C Jefferson had issues with him he spent most of his time being president of the senate (which is a VP responsibility). The 12th amendment (having the VP have a separate set of electors) was ratified in 1804 but Hamilton was one of the people leading the way.
The actual history here is a sick burn to both candidates--Hamilton didn't convince his party (the tie breakers) to vote for Jefferson instead of voting for Burr. He (allegedly) convinced several of them to abstain from voting all together. Sort of like a 'screw you' to both men.
The real Hamilton held a grudge for Burr running and costing his father in law his seat; using that people didn’t trust the Bank aka Hamilton. Hamilton made it his business to stop Burr from succeeding offices after
It is upsetting, but remember the beginning of the show. Also, I’m looking forward to your thoughts on the movie In The Heights. I like long videos to get a sense of the flow of the show, and time for commentary. Personally would love to see your thoughts on Tick Tick Boom, (Lin-Manuel Miranda directed the film), although I don’t know how much you know about Jonathan Larson.
The tIc Tick Boom movie was done so beautifully!! Andrew Garfield literally became Jonathan Larson, he should have one best actor for that role. He had to learn to sing and play piano for that part. LLM did an amazing job directing!!
There is a show on Amazon prime called The Channeling Alexander Hamilton that has a medium Channeling Alexander and those close to him. It was very interesting to watch.
Had Washington still been alive, I wonder what he'd do in terms of endorsement. I mean, he wasn't exactly friends with Jefferson, but at least he knew that Jefferson wouldn't be interested in abolishing slavery, so that seems like enough of a motive for him to endorse the morally repugnant candidate.
One plus for longer videos is that you might forget less information as you’re reacting to the videos. Kind of like you forgot that Burr tells you that he shot Hamilton at the very beginning of the the play. Something tells me that you probably remembered that he was “the damn fool that shot him” right after you filmed this though.
I’m not sure if sell understood that Burr is the damn fool that Shot him because when he did that reaction video, he didn’t have any visuals. It was just the song.
Not having a stance can work because it doesn't isolate either side. A lot of people play the "very fine people on both sides" game and it works quite well in politics.
An old theory from historians was that Hamilton actually tried to kill himself in his duel with Burr, or that he at least wished to lose. The evidence is scarce, but meaningful. See, histortically they didn't actually fire their guns into the *air,* they would've been shot by then. In order to signify that kind of 'surrender', they shot their pistol at the ground. However, when the scene of Hamilton and Burr's duel was examined, no bullet was found lodged in the ground anywhere near where Hamilton was stood. He was, however, facing a tree during the duel, though I can't recall that they ever found any bullet in the tree either. See, in those years, the bullets fired by their weapons were these boorish round little balls much unlike the bullets of today. A unique attribute of this type of ammunition was that against certain surfaces, even like trees, the bullets were known to *richochet* and bounce back in the direction they were fired. Assuming no bullet was found lodged in the tree, or having bounced off of it back in Hamilton's direction, there are a few reasonable explanations that still support the idea he shot the tree in hopes to take his own life if Burr missed, as we know this was historically the lowest point in Hamilton's life with the recent death of his son, the release of the reynolds pamhplet, him losing his political position, etc. Notably, there'd be the idea that Hamilton shot at the tree and simply missed the tree (their weapons from this time period were HORRIFICALLY innacurate because they were smooth-bored, so the bullets often flew wildly off target at any moderate distance) or it ricocheted and missed *him* flying off somewhere else. Its just a little theory, and almost certainly false, but its something I always think about.
i'm not sure where hamilton was during the election of 1800, but this is one of the, very few, historical inaccuracies. philip hamilton dies in 1801, but switching the year gives the musical a smoother transition to the end.
He endorsed neither but convinced people to abstain from voting giving the win to Jefferson. Funny thing is, this ISN'T the reason Burr shot him. That was just politics, they got on with it. It's 4 years later when the duel happens because Burr heard that Hamilton was talking shit about him at a dinner party. Hamilton's response to Burr's letter asking if it was true was more or less 'I talk so much shit about you so often that you're going to have to be more specific about what was said and when.'
Late as hell to this party but how is your commentary so good but yet you know so little about the history as well as the musical itself? Like what planet do you hail from? Lol loving these reactions though 🤣
Throughout the entire show, Alexander kept criticizing Burr for not pursuing his ambitions, but when Burr finally does that, Alex made it about himself and viewed it as a personal attack against him when Burr beat Phillip Schuyler. Burr continued to pursue his ambitions, as Alex always told him to, and when he almost achieved his goal, Alexander ruined it, and the part that irritates me most is when he says "Jefferson has beliefs, Burr has none," and then the very next song he claims, "I am not the reason no one trusts you," which is a blatant dodging of blame. Burr got screwed over by Hamilton in the election, and the endorsement wasn't even the final straw for Burr, hearing Alexander talk shit about him at a party is what caused it. Also, one thing I haven't seen mentioned enough is the fact that Alexander basically acknowledged that he had disrespected Burr for thirty years. If you are such a jerk that you need someone to specify which thing you did to upset them, you are horrible. Alexander had it coming, and I personally think he knew what was going to happen, and wanted the end result to occur. He was a broken man, traumatized in his childhood and adolescence. The survivor's guilt he likely had from when he survived the illness that killed his mother is unimaginable, and in the entirety of Act Two, he engaged in self-destructive behavior for almost the entire act. He wanted to die, but he also did not want to be viewed as being responsible for his own death, as that would tarnish his legacy (as if having an affair that eventually caused his son to get killed wasn't enough to destroy his legacy) and even in the end, he was so obsessed with his legacy that he contemplates the idea that the bullet could be his legacy. I am an unapologetic Burr supporter, and I honestly think that if Burr were a modern politician, he'd be viewed as bipartisan/moderate, not indecisive. In the end, Alex proved the first bit of advice Burr gave him to be accurate. Alex foolishly ran his mouth off and wound up dead. All he had to do to avoid the duel is apologize. It wouldn't even have to be genuine, but his superiority complex decided not to apologize. Hell, even if he didn't apologize, nobody dragged him to Weehawken. He let himself get killed. I view it as suicide by inaction.
Alexander never made it about himself, once again Burr taking his advice is not an obligation to agree with him. Burr also still kept his mentality that Hamilton hated, which was the Cruz of the issue between them. Also, Alexander brought up why Burr could not be trusted, he was not the direct cause of it. Also, 30 years of disagreements does equal 30 years worth of things Hamilton has said about Burr, even then you have nothing to even prove that Hamilton isn't right about what he said, all you do is treat Burr like a poor baby, and Alexander like a villain. The last paragraph is the most sensible thing you've said, but you have no proof he wanted to die or anything else related to how he wanted to die a certain way. The only thing I agree on is the avoidablity of the duel, but it was either him or Burr in those final moments, apparently it was a crime putting himself below the character you love so much.
3:09: SalvoG "How would that be good with people....I don't stand for anything but yeah, I'm the right guy....." In January 2022 when (current) Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was asked if Congressional Republicans have any sort of agenda to campaign on ahead of the 2022 midterms, McConnell responded: “That is a very good question and I’ll let you know (after the election) when we take it back .…This midterm election will be a report card on the performance of this entire Democratic government: the president, the House and the Senate.” So yes, this kind of gamesmanship is still done today in politics: some people run on the idea that it's not about you choosing someone on the basis of what they say they WILL do for you but on the basis of how you feel about what whoever is in office HAS ALREADY DONE for you. Of course that raises the question: do you go with the Devil you know or the (potential) one you don't know? So you saw and can ubderstand what choice Hamilton made and why!
"Jefferson has beliefs, Burr has none." is such a dishonest and manipulative way of describing Burr. I watched a video earlier today of the original "Schuyler Defeated" from off-Broadway, and that line immediately think of the song. Burr says "There's the kid who almost shot Charles Lee in the jaw." Alexander was impulsive, and throughout his life, he had many friends but was a friend to none. When he no longer needs them, at best, he never mentions them again. I mean, we know Laurens died after the war, and Lafayette went back to France for the revolution (only because Jefferson mentions him) and there's no mention of what happened to Hercules Mulligan. Burr was essentially an emotional and mental punching bag for Alex to abuse. Alex tells him to pursue what he wants, and Burr does, twice. The first time, Alex played the victim because Burr was campaigning against Phillip Schuyler, which he tried to frame as a personal attack. The second time... well, we see in this video.
Hamilton, never abandoned any of those people, they simply went their own paths. Alexander tells burr to pursue what he wants, he does but simultaneously stays with the "talk less smile more" attitude that Hamilton hates. Also, him going for what he wants isn't an obligation for Hamilton to agree with him. Also, you continuously ignore several aspects of burr's and Hamilton's character. Burr is still only out for himself, not the betterment of the country. Hamilton fought for what he believed him with fury, never did he not give a reason for what he did. He was abrasive but you can't say he was wrong, and you can't say that his smarts and skill aren't the reason he rose to power. In the end, Burr was blinded by rage and killed a man, and he is just as much to blame for Alexander's as Alexander is himself for accepting the duel.
Jefferson and Hamilton had many disagreements in politics but they could agree on one thing: Burr could not be trusted as he was heavily opportunistic and jumped on anything that would gain him more power.
Dude, just curious if you are American or not. If so, did you not learn about Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr in school. But if you’re from Canada then I understand how you could seem so surprised at the ending of “Your Obedient Servant”.
I mean I'm American and history was one of my favorite subjects (especially the revolutionary and civil wars) and I certainly didn't learn about Aaron Burr in school. I knew brief things about Hamilton but hadn't even heard of Aaron Burr until watching Hamilton
@@SebastianSawyer That is truly a sad, sad, statement. My apologies for getting political but that is another reason why this Country has to put a stop to all these extremist in our government trying to remove the less than pretty parts of our history. History is ugly, brutal and tragic at times but needs to be thought regardless of how it makes people feel.
@@JB-nc7yk “baaww the extremists in this country”. Way to twist it to your own narrative. In Canada, those same “extremists” are pushing to have the history of residential schools added to school curriculums. Removing a statue of a racist slave owner to stop glorifying him isn’t the same as erasing history.
@@beautifulmidnight no one said anything about removing a statue. I was referring to removing reference to slavery (and other ugly expects of history) all together because certain groups are “uncomfortable” with those subjects. What are you talking about?!
“Best of wives and best of women” is what Hamilton actually wrote in the note to Eliza before leaving for New Jersey
,I knew that but why am I crying even more 😭😭
"Can we get back to politics?"
"Uh please"
Daveed (actor of Jefferson) and Oak (actor of Maddison) often cried when It‘s Quiet Uptown was on stage so that‘s a little thing from them
fun fact; duels were in fact illegal in almost all states at this point, hence why Alex's son had to go to Jersey for the duel, because that was the only place it was legal (Also, I imagine, why the doctor needed to turn around to have deniability)
Being present for a duel is implicitly condoning it and something a doctor cannot do, since he has to live up to the Hippocratic oath. The Doctor needs to be able to argue that he didn't observe the event, and couldn't have intervened to prevent it. Hence, turning around for deniability.
its been so many months since he started the show he's forgotten they litteraly tell you burr shoots hamilton in the first song lol
In the first song, Burr says, "And I'm the damn fool who shot him."
7:26 - think about pretty much every interaction Hamilton has had with Burr throughout the whole musical. He keeps trying to get him to declare a definite stand, on _anything,_ and Burr consistently refuses. Even in the very first words Alexander ever exchanges with him, a straightforward inquiry as to his name and identity, _(“Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, Sir?”)_ is met with an equivocal response _(“That depends, who’s asking?”)_
- Hamilton is not endorsing Jefferson just to spite Burr. Even if he did have a personal grudge about Burr switching parties to run against his father-in-law, I don’t believe he would put his own desire to retaliate above the country’s best interests. He is stating his real opinion here.
11:15 - …Are you forgetting what Burr told us way back in the opening number?
Love all of this, and especially 11:15 O.O man is Sal gonna be angryyyy :S
in the musical yes, and i'm sure it was somewhat similar in real life. but the real hamilton took a few actions against burr that def seemed like he held a grudge and didn't want burr to succeed in public offices so their rivalry was much more mutual irl
But you can easily also look at this entire musical from Burrs perspective. Everything he has attempted in his career has failed and the only common thread has been Hamiltons disrespect. His entire life has been for nothing and he just wants to take it out on someone
Salvo: If somebody dies, I'm going to be livid...
Me: Should I tell him?
The 12th amendment to the constitution changed how we elect Vice-Presidents. The election of 1800 is seen as the first two-party election (Washington warned about creating a two- party system in his farewell address). It made the original approach in the constitution of the runner up being Vice President rather untenable.
I believe that what in the context of the musical what really sealed his decision was, burr saying that he was chasing what he wanted and learned it from Hamilton. Was the last Nail in the coffin because Hamilton's beliefs lead to loss in his family. In both literal and metaphorical ways.
Aaron Burr was in Jefferson’s party; and betrayed his party to run against him. And yes Jefferson is the start of the candidates choosing their running mate.
Yup. The law got changed when Jefferson was in office. Can you imagine if it was still the case these days that the person that came in second place would be Vice President? Actually, depending on when it happened, it might not be a bad thing. VPs don't have much power, but they do sit in the highest position in the Senate. It would have been wild if Hillary had been Trump's VP. lol
And, well...that's the thing. He hated both Burr AND Jefferson. If it was merely a matter of disliking someone, he wouldn't have supported either of them. The thing about Jefferson is that while Hamilton disagreed with how he wanted to go about doing it, Hamilton at least knew that Jefferson had the country's well-being in mind. Burr only thought of himself and his own power and wealth.
The race their talking about is a primary , Jefferson and Burr are the top two in the democratic-republican party… the winner will go on to face Incumbent John Adams of the Federalist Party in the general election. The runner up in the primary of the winning party becomes VP. Everyone knows Adams will be defeated
“dear mr Hamilton, your fellow federalists would like to know how you’ll be voting…
…John Adams doesn’t stand a chance so who are you promoting?”
So it would have been Trump with VP Ted Cruz… or Biden with VP Bernie Sanders…
The only time it happened I can think of was when John F Kennedy needed his bitter rival and enemy Lyndon B Johnson’s support in the south to win the general election. They hated each other, especially Bobby Kennedy. They went out of their way to remind The Vice President that he was powerless every chance they could. It didn’t end well for the Kennedy brothers, and I think it was a good thing to remove from the rules. Better to have someone who owes you and aligns with your beliefs as your successor, rather then a bitter rival you recently defeated…
I read that Hamilton stopped burr from holding political office in 3 different areas by writing to the citizens.
Yes. In fact the duel had more to do with what happened in New York when he ran for Governor - from two different parties than from when he was Vice President.
Hamilton actually believed Burr wouldn't be a good fit for president cuz he wouldn't pick a side.
The election of 1800 went to the House of representatives because the electoral college tied. The House was filled with lame duck Federalists. Some felt at least Burr wasn't from the south. Though plenty felt voter intent mattered - Jefferson had been the head of the dem-rep ticket. The House voted and voted and voted but neither candidate got the majority of votes. Hamilton wrote a lot of letters to his fellow Federalists telling them why Jefferson was better than Burr. Jefferson obviously eventually got enough votes to win. With representatives who Hamilton wrote deciding not to vote so that Jefferson ended up with a majority of votes. Not known is rather Hamilton hated Burr so much he would prefer Jefferson to be president or if Hamilton felt someone with conviction was better than a centralist who waited to see what the majority wanted. I would say both are true to what Hamilton believed.
To complete your Hamilton journey you might enjoy The Hamilton Polka from Weird Al.
It’s sorta genius
The frustration on your face re: the duel was perfection
I think someone in the last video commented but I'll repeat. Yes, the duels are and WERE stupid. I think during the song where Laurens dueled the other dude it was explained that most duels as it was ended in
1. The friends that went with each party squashing the duel.
2. Shooting at the air.
Anothing thing that was suggested (this time when Phillip was about to duel) was that they had to go to New Jersey to go through with this, because most states had already outlawed this because yeah. They were impractical and petty and allowing them basically made legalized murder.
Having lost his son to something like this I also keep wondering what Burr does "why do you assume you're the smartest in the room?" Hamilton clearly wasn't the brightest (?)
An argument has been made that Hamilton was suicidal by the time of the duel and thus wanted to die. With all that had happened both to his career and family at that point, that would make sense.
Excellent reaction (once again), Sal! You sure know how to “read a room”! Looking forward to the next Hamilton reaction.
yassssssssss i love your hamilton reactions! I cant wait for you to see/hear The World Was Wide Enough. Aaron Burr is my favorite character in the musical, and that song really punches me in the gut
Love your Hamilton reactions Sal, going to be sad when it’s done. BUT I cannot wait for your final reaction. Such a conundrum. 😉 Looking forward to your In The Heights reactions. Any format you choose is ok with me.
throughout the show the only character to ever show Burr respect is Hamilton. This was not a personal grudge, there is a brief moment during this where he asks Burr if there is anything he wouldnt do, my interpretation is he is trying to see if Burr has changed, if he has convictions now, or if he is still just grabbing at power regardless of what he actually believes
Oh and Burr was Vice president for Jefferson's 1st term. But B/C Jefferson had issues with him he spent most of his time being president of the senate (which is a VP responsibility). The 12th amendment (having the VP have a separate set of electors) was ratified in 1804 but Hamilton was one of the people leading the way.
I have been waiting for your ending . . . And we have to wait for the last one. It deserves its own.
The actual history here is a sick burn to both candidates--Hamilton didn't convince his party (the tie breakers) to vote for Jefferson instead of voting for Burr. He (allegedly) convinced several of them to abstain from voting all together. Sort of like a 'screw you' to both men.
I can't wait until your next reaction to Hamilton...drives me crazy!!!
The real Hamilton held a grudge for Burr running and costing his father in law his seat; using that people didn’t trust the Bank aka Hamilton. Hamilton made it his business to stop Burr from succeeding offices after
Jefferson did change that law but it took time, so Burr did serve as VP for some time.
It is upsetting, but remember the beginning of the show. Also, I’m looking forward to your thoughts on the movie In The Heights. I like long videos to get a sense of the flow of the show, and time for commentary. Personally would love to see your thoughts on Tick Tick Boom, (Lin-Manuel Miranda directed the film), although I don’t know how much you know about Jonathan Larson.
The tIc Tick Boom movie was done so beautifully!! Andrew Garfield literally became Jonathan Larson, he should have one best actor for that role. He had to learn to sing and play piano for that part. LLM did an amazing job directing!!
There is a show on Amazon prime called The Channeling Alexander Hamilton that has a medium Channeling Alexander and those close to him. It was very interesting to watch.
Had Washington still been alive, I wonder what he'd do in terms of endorsement. I mean, he wasn't exactly friends with Jefferson, but at least he knew that Jefferson wouldn't be interested in abolishing slavery, so that seems like enough of a motive for him to endorse the morally repugnant candidate.
One plus for longer videos is that you might forget less information as you’re reacting to the videos. Kind of like you forgot that Burr tells you that he shot Hamilton at the very beginning of the the play. Something tells me that you probably remembered that he was “the damn fool that shot him” right after you filmed this though.
I’m not sure if sell understood that Burr is the damn fool that Shot him because when he did that reaction video, he didn’t have any visuals. It was just the song.
"At least they know I know where France is!"
I *live* for the JefferSass.
Yes, the way vice president was chosen was changed during Jefferson’s administration.
6:50 Jefferson changed it and in his next term he has a diffrent vice president
I vote for longer in the heights vids!! More coverage!
Not having a stance can work because it doesn't isolate either side. A lot of people play the "very fine people on both sides" game and it works quite well in politics.
Can't wait for the final reaction.
People were going for Burr as opposed to Thomas like people went for Biden instead of Trump...both suck but gotta pick the lesser evil xD
That exact "what - WHY?!" is how I feel every time anyone thinks more guns are the solution to anything ever.
An old theory from historians was that Hamilton actually tried to kill himself in his duel with Burr, or that he at least wished to lose.
The evidence is scarce, but meaningful. See, histortically they didn't actually fire their guns into the *air,* they would've been shot by then. In order to signify that kind of 'surrender', they shot their pistol at the ground. However, when the scene of Hamilton and Burr's duel was examined, no bullet was found lodged in the ground anywhere near where Hamilton was stood. He was, however, facing a tree during the duel, though I can't recall that they ever found any bullet in the tree either.
See, in those years, the bullets fired by their weapons were these boorish round little balls much unlike the bullets of today. A unique attribute of this type of ammunition was that against certain surfaces, even like trees, the bullets were known to *richochet* and bounce back in the direction they were fired.
Assuming no bullet was found lodged in the tree, or having bounced off of it back in Hamilton's direction, there are a few reasonable explanations that still support the idea he shot the tree in hopes to take his own life if Burr missed, as we know this was historically the lowest point in Hamilton's life with the recent death of his son, the release of the reynolds pamhplet, him losing his political position, etc.
Notably, there'd be the idea that Hamilton shot at the tree and simply missed the tree (their weapons from this time period were HORRIFICALLY innacurate because they were smooth-bored, so the bullets often flew wildly off target at any moderate distance) or it ricocheted and missed *him* flying off somewhere else.
Its just a little theory, and almost certainly false, but its something I always think about.
i'm not sure where hamilton was during the election of 1800, but this is one of the, very few, historical inaccuracies. philip hamilton dies in 1801, but switching the year gives the musical a smoother transition to the end.
Woohoo! In the heights! 30 min vids sound great to me! :D
would love to see you react to Rent!!
He endorsed neither but convinced people to abstain from voting giving the win to Jefferson.
Funny thing is, this ISN'T the reason Burr shot him. That was just politics, they got on with it. It's 4 years later when the duel happens because Burr heard that Hamilton was talking shit about him at a dinner party.
Hamilton's response to Burr's letter asking if it was true was more or less 'I talk so much shit about you so often that you're going to have to be more specific about what was said and when.'
Late as hell to this party but how is your commentary so good but yet you know so little about the history as well as the musical itself? Like what planet do you hail from? Lol loving these reactions though 🤣
Put the in the heights video in 30 minute segments.
Throughout the entire show, Alexander kept criticizing Burr for not pursuing his ambitions, but when Burr finally does that, Alex made it about himself and viewed it as a personal attack against him when Burr beat Phillip Schuyler. Burr continued to pursue his ambitions, as Alex always told him to, and when he almost achieved his goal, Alexander ruined it, and the part that irritates me most is when he says "Jefferson has beliefs, Burr has none," and then the very next song he claims, "I am not the reason no one trusts you," which is a blatant dodging of blame.
Burr got screwed over by Hamilton in the election, and the endorsement wasn't even the final straw for Burr, hearing Alexander talk shit about him at a party is what caused it. Also, one thing I haven't seen mentioned enough is the fact that Alexander basically acknowledged that he had disrespected Burr for thirty years. If you are such a jerk that you need someone to specify which thing you did to upset them, you are horrible.
Alexander had it coming, and I personally think he knew what was going to happen, and wanted the end result to occur. He was a broken man, traumatized in his childhood and adolescence. The survivor's guilt he likely had from when he survived the illness that killed his mother is unimaginable, and in the entirety of Act Two, he engaged in self-destructive behavior for almost the entire act. He wanted to die, but he also did not want to be viewed as being responsible for his own death, as that would tarnish his legacy (as if having an affair that eventually caused his son to get killed wasn't enough to destroy his legacy) and even in the end, he was so obsessed with his legacy that he contemplates the idea that the bullet could be his legacy. I am an unapologetic Burr supporter, and I honestly think that if Burr were a modern politician, he'd be viewed as bipartisan/moderate, not indecisive. In the end, Alex proved the first bit of advice Burr gave him to be accurate. Alex foolishly ran his mouth off and wound up dead. All he had to do to avoid the duel is apologize. It wouldn't even have to be genuine, but his superiority complex decided not to apologize. Hell, even if he didn't apologize, nobody dragged him to Weehawken. He let himself get killed. I view it as suicide by inaction.
Alexander never made it about himself, once again Burr taking his advice is not an obligation to agree with him. Burr also still kept his mentality that Hamilton hated, which was the Cruz of the issue between them. Also, Alexander brought up why Burr could not be trusted, he was not the direct cause of it. Also, 30 years of disagreements does equal 30 years worth of things Hamilton has said about Burr, even then you have nothing to even prove that Hamilton isn't right about what he said, all you do is treat Burr like a poor baby, and Alexander like a villain. The last paragraph is the most sensible thing you've said, but you have no proof he wanted to die or anything else related to how he wanted to die a certain way. The only thing I agree on is the avoidablity of the duel, but it was either him or Burr in those final moments, apparently it was a crime putting himself below the character you love so much.
Not in real life. Burr was a sleeze bag, borderline traitor. This musical is actually overly kind to him.
Duels were so common back in the day, my guy. Read a book.
3:09: SalvoG "How would that be good with people....I don't stand for anything but yeah, I'm the right guy....."
In January 2022 when (current) Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was asked if Congressional Republicans have any sort of agenda to campaign on ahead of the 2022 midterms, McConnell responded: “That is a very good question and I’ll let you know (after the election) when we take it back .…This midterm election will be a report card on the performance of this entire Democratic government: the president, the House and the Senate.”
So yes, this kind of gamesmanship is still done today in politics: some people run on the idea that it's not about you choosing someone on the basis of what they say they WILL do for you but on the basis of how you feel about what whoever is in office HAS ALREADY DONE for you.
Of course that raises the question: do you go with the Devil you know or the (potential) one you don't know? So you saw and can ubderstand what choice Hamilton made and why!
"Jefferson has beliefs, Burr has none." is such a dishonest and manipulative way of describing Burr. I watched a video earlier today of the original "Schuyler Defeated" from off-Broadway, and that line immediately think of the song. Burr says "There's the kid who almost shot Charles Lee in the jaw." Alexander was impulsive, and throughout his life, he had many friends but was a friend to none. When he no longer needs them, at best, he never mentions them again. I mean, we know Laurens died after the war, and Lafayette went back to France for the revolution (only because Jefferson mentions him) and there's no mention of what happened to Hercules Mulligan. Burr was essentially an emotional and mental punching bag for Alex to abuse. Alex tells him to pursue what he wants, and Burr does, twice. The first time, Alex played the victim because Burr was campaigning against Phillip Schuyler, which he tried to frame as a personal attack. The second time... well, we see in this video.
Hamilton, never abandoned any of those people, they simply went their own paths. Alexander tells burr to pursue what he wants, he does but simultaneously stays with the "talk less smile more" attitude that Hamilton hates. Also, him going for what he wants isn't an obligation for Hamilton to agree with him. Also, you continuously ignore several aspects of burr's and Hamilton's character. Burr is still only out for himself, not the betterment of the country. Hamilton fought for what he believed him with fury, never did he not give a reason for what he did. He was abrasive but you can't say he was wrong, and you can't say that his smarts and skill aren't the reason he rose to power. In the end, Burr was blinded by rage and killed a man, and he is just as much to blame for Alexander's as Alexander is himself for accepting the duel.
Alexander never played the victim he criticized Burrs deceitful methods
What is this so called emotional trauma that poor Burr was subjected to? Alexander never took advantage of any of those characters either
will you do in the heights in full on patreon? i would sub for that
Jefferson and Hamilton had many disagreements in politics but they could agree on one thing: Burr could not be trusted as he was heavily opportunistic and jumped on anything that would gain him more power.
Evidently…. Duals were very commonplace.
Can i just go to where hamilton died because i live in new jersey
It's in Weehawken, next to where you get the ferry to Manhattan. There's a plaque marking the spot.
Spoilers for the next song . . . Listen to the first song again 😉.
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Dude, just curious if you are American or not. If so, did you not learn about Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr in school. But if you’re from Canada then I understand how you could seem so surprised at the ending of “Your Obedient Servant”.
I mean I'm American and history was one of my favorite subjects (especially the revolutionary and civil wars) and I certainly didn't learn about Aaron Burr in school. I knew brief things about Hamilton but hadn't even heard of Aaron Burr until watching Hamilton
@@SebastianSawyer That is truly a sad, sad, statement. My apologies for getting political but that is another reason why this Country has to put a stop to all these extremist in our government trying to remove the less than pretty parts of our history. History is ugly, brutal and tragic at times but needs to be thought regardless of how it makes people feel.
@@JB-nc7yk “baaww the extremists in this country”.
Way to twist it to your own narrative.
In Canada, those same “extremists” are pushing to have the history of residential schools added to school curriculums.
Removing a statue of a racist slave owner to stop glorifying him isn’t the same as erasing history.
@@beautifulmidnight no one said anything about removing a statue. I was referring to removing reference to slavery (and other ugly expects of history) all together because certain groups are “uncomfortable” with those subjects. What are you talking about?!
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